On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
The point made about producing less heat with the smaller nm sounds
reasonable tho.
Less heat with the smaller nm, but only if all other
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale:
Pandu Poluan wrote:
Oh, we like digressions :-)
I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a
system without heat sink... but completely immersed in... cooking oil!
They made a large
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 09:35:35 schrieb Dale:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
Am Samstag, 10. November 2012, 23:46:52 schrieb Dale:
Pandu Poluan wrote:
Oh, we like digressions :-)
I recall that sometimes last year, Tom's Hardware tested running a
system without heat sink
heat sink... but completely immersed in... cooking oil!
They made a large acrylic container, poured in gallons of high-quality
cooking oil, then proceeded to overclock the CPU and GPU to unholy
frequencies...
And, IIRC, Seymour Cray likes to use some inert fluoride-based coolant
to dunk
was trying to overcome the problem that water causes things to short
out when it leaks on a mobo, something mineral oil doesn't do according
to what I have read. I never said it was the world's greatest heat
conductor.
ever heard of 'transformer oil'?
for some reason or another they move
that, I've used an external 80mm fan to blow air across the heat sink and out the
adjacent slot (after the attached fan failed and i removed it. I mounted the fan in the drive
cage. The fans on graphics cards are generally moving air the worst way possible (just like many
cpu heat sink/fan combos
; only thing that changed the long POST time, changing the video card. I
> might add, I've booted that thing a lot since I changed the video card
> and it boots right up each time.
>
> If you have a built in video system, you stuck. The only option I can
> think of, clean the heat
and then talk to the backend over the network. They didn't
need much space so I probably bought the smallest thing I could find 4
years ago when I first built them.
I've given up on hard drives for MythTV frontends, too much noise, heat,
power and space. I tried flash storage for a while but now
/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315075
uses rt2x00 but has some type of failure issue. Possibly heat
related, possibly not. I've experienced it firsthand.
- Grant
--
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
also had heat-related issues until I got the thermal sensors coupled
with the speed governor. But then the machine would just turn off
abruptly. I was able to get it to run long enough to recompile by
putting a pencil up under the corner where the vents are, for more
clearance and airflow.
More
matching choices you are aware of?
And what about the cpu cooling fan?
Thanks,
m.
I could be wrong but I think there are no onboard graphics solutions with
dedicated video RAM. I don't think you'll lose much RAM anyway, maybe 128M.
There are AMD X2 with higher efficiency and therefore lower heat
that. They don't need to
know that only water, fat and sugar actually heat up in a microwave as long
as they stick to food. If they start to experiment with other things ...
well, they have to understand how microwaves work.
Different tools are for different users. That you don't need a certain tool,
doesn't
for heating up food. They know they can do that. They don't
need to know that only water, fat and sugar actually heat up in a
microwave as long as they stick to food. If they start to experiment
with other things ... well, they have to understand how microwaves work.
I don't expect my users to be able
specific manually induced causes could be:
Overclocking (naturally increases heat output)
Poorly fitted heatsink/computer fans (the same problem can happen with
excessive dust in the CPU fan)
Computer software can also cause errors in this way (normally by
corrupting data they are reading
and/or incorrect hardware
installation. Overheating can cause electrons to become more animated
and thus escape from the silicon tracks, resulting in corrupted data.
Some specific manually induced causes could be:
Overclocking (naturally increases heat output)
Poorly fitted heatsink/computer fans
? Do I understand right
that the installation of XP went OK but booting fails? Or are you trying to
boot an installed XP from vmware?
Anyway, my experience with such sudden failures were usually linked to either
processor heat or Power Supply being not strong enough. But it was never
linked
from routing unwanted protocols
already help and you don't actually need a bandwidth limiter.
This was in the heat of the moment - i was able to get a MAC address
from the unknown protocol messages from tcpdump. We tracked it down
to a HUNG pc - basically flooding the network. This gentoo box
that
something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery life
and and more heat.
Right in the beginning you said the load was *exactly* 1.00. Now, load is
defined as
the _number_ of processes on average waiting for the cpu in the last 1, 5,
15
minutes
So it does not mean
too flexible - sometimes just one of the
conditioners goes down, so the room temp gets to, say, 25C, but that's
still not a reason to panic if the situation is under control.
And even when bunch of bioses shut system down all the systems
correctly because of cpu/chipset heat when A/C dies, there'd
card
with little heat and no noise. A Silent video card
has to be attractive for any audiophile?
It even comes with an HDMI output. I have not gotten
into the interfaces (splitting) the video and audio
feeds, yet, but it looks encouraging. It was $29
dollars, but, make sure it's fits into your
on computers, I used to clean them with pure alcohol
then lay them on top of the A/C condenser, you know, the hot part. It
would dry real good in a couple hours. Heat plus the large volume of
air works very well. Be careful that the air doesn't blow the keyboard
off tho. Some A/C systems can blow huge
). The button works great
at first but then after a period, or it may be related to a heat issue, it
stops working. Restarting X solves the problem. I have not noticed it
failing with gpm but I have not stayed in console as long. Remapping
works but I'd like some pointers on solving this problem
but then after a period, or it may be related to
a heat issue, it stops working. Restarting X solves the problem. I
have not noticed it failing with gpm but I have not stayed in console
as long. Remapping works but I'd like some pointers on solving this
problem.
Maybe install xev to see
will a back AC
compressor.
Check the clutch on the compressor for excessive heat after a short
run -- if it slips, the compressor will be shut off by the KLIMA
until the ignition is cycled on and off (this is a quick test for a
bad clutch or cos-only was a BIG mistake.
And as kdesvn
Cooling heat sink causes it to be
very tall. I have an enormous thermaltake armour case and it was still
a tight squeeze. If your case is less than 9 inches wide I don't know
if it would fit.
My case is 7 wide. Nice to know. I did find a passively cool 8500GT
but I'm not sure it will be sufficient
of with this particular card is that it is HUGE,
both in length and the big Arctic Cooling heat sink causes it to be
very tall. I have an enormous thermaltake armour case and it was still
a tight squeeze. If your case is less than 9 inches wide I don't know
if it would fit.
My case is 7 wide. Nice
why so many thing that don't normally
have issues are having issues in your system. :-)
Do you guys think RAID1 is unnecessary with an SLC SSD drive?
I actually did lose one or two laptop hard drives now that I think
about it. The other stuff:
power supply - cheapness
video cards - heat
modem
would also reduce the amount of heat generated,
so you could reduce fan speeds to make it even quieter.
--
Neil Bothwick
If you smoke after sex, you're doing it too fast.
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was in use.defaults but I didn't have dbus! Anyway, that only
makes difference to ecore.. no other package in my system has that flag
(as it seems so..)
That is one problem I have not ran into before.May want to clean thosefans.All the compiling in Gentoo sure does make a lot of heat build
up.Only
RAM total)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 with Thermalright Ultra-120 heat sink (and Scythe
S-Flex SFF21E 120mm fan)
Two Seagate Barracuda ES SATA 3.0Gb/s 500-GB Hard Drive
One BFG Tech 8800 GTS 640 MB
pcHDTV HD-5500 HDTV card (http://pchdtv.com/)
All to fit in an existing California PC
Are you sure that it was a Pentium M and not a Pentium4-M or just the
p4s? There is a signicant difference. With all the benchmarks I've
seen, the Pentium Ms beat all the other processors in terms of power
consumption and heat and in a lot of cases, performance. it even
outdoes the P4s
On 06/05/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
24x7. I am not sure if this is messing it up or not. It seems to stay
pretty warm. I bought an extra 1GB of mem for the laptop and put that
in today after the first lockup. I ran memtest for about 10 minutes and
didn't see any issues.
Laptops
On 5/6/06, JimD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JimD wrote:
Ok, this is a three part question. I am on vacation and I am using my
wife's laptop that used to have winxp and now has Gentoo. Starting
today I started to get garbled video output followed by a lock-up. I
have been using the laptop as
Group, I recently built a ventilated stucture around my 4 desktops to
try to quiet things down and get rid of the heat.
I made no provision for forced shutdown in case of overheat, which is
quite likely to happen if, for example the main ventilation fan went
down for some reason.
Well
problems - maybe a heat issue. have you tried running
with the covers off and a fan blowing onto the system?
I think I went too fast for AMD64; I should have stayed with x86 and old
good IDE drive.
Somebody suggested: Enabling 32 bit mode for the drives in the BIOS to
cure this problem. I'll
and
I can only find some suggestion; no clear answer.
i
I think you have hardware problems - maybe a heat issue. have you tried
running
with the covers off and a fan blowing onto the system?
Good thinking Bob! That 20 to 30 minutes certainly seems symptomatic of
overheating
solutions and
I can only find some suggestion; no clear answer.
i
I think you have hardware problems - maybe a heat issue. have you tried running
with the covers off and a fan blowing onto the system?
Good thinking Bob! That 20 to 30 minutes certainly seems symptomatic of
overheating.
I've
the error, and
then try to reproduce the error again without your sata driver loaded.
Zac
I have an old IDE drive, maybe I can squeeze Gentoo on it for testing.
Bob has a good idea too regarding the CPU compound under the heat-sink
but at CPU temp. 39C I don't see how that could cause any
get another
heat probe to double check the readings from the first one ;-).
Zac
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
may be of use.
Considering the positive results that you've gotten so far, it seems like you
may be on the right track here. It makes me less concerned about any
possible overheating, but if you wanted to be paranoid about it, you could
get another heat probe to double check the readings
heatsinks don't do the job, and you might need to get a better one
(assuming heat is the problem). I build a lot of computers, and with AMD
cpus, overkill in the cooling dept. is sometimes necessary.
Robert Crawford
As I posted earlier:
--
Here is what I have done:
1.) Disable
issue,
some device flaking out, etc.
3. Have you looked at crashes due to heat? Is your box cleaned and have
proper airflow?
4. Are you running any esoteric or rare hardware components in the box?
5. Have you ensured that your kernel config matches the hardware? In some
cases the selection
or anything like that should not
work.
Has anybody tried to use it in this way (maybe with Gimp)?
I've posted in foruns, where most of the time it was taken as a joke
;) but I only have my synaptic notebook touchpad, maybe another one
(I've heard some sense heat, others sense pressure only) can work
and observe at which temperature the compiler segfaults.
Older Athlons run pretty hot. If this is your case you may want to buy
the expensive silver heat sink compound. As for OS problems I don't
know what to say except that this may be a sign not to run -mm or better
patch sets and expect things
in xorg.conf, and I do not even use a compositing wm.
sorry about that last line.
No harm done. Heat raises easily sometimes. I apologize for anything I've
done wrong as well.
Regards.
--
Jesús Guerrero
, quoted by B. A. Palevitz
sounds like
a) heat
or
b) psu problems
or
c) triple faults.
c) is a lot of time caused by memory problems. One thing causing memory
problems is a bad psu.
so - in your case - just try a different psu. Ask a friend for one for a
couple of days. If your problem stays, you
is the advantage? Why do you keep your computer running, wasting
energy? Is there any good reason?
Well, in the winter time, I run folding and it adds a little extra heat
to my room. In the summer time I don't run folding but I do keep it on
unless I am going to be gone all day or something like
.
Dale
:-) :-)
and what is the advantage? Why do you keep your computer running, wasting
energy? Is there any good reason?
Well, in the winter time, I run folding and it adds a little extra heat
to my room.
isolation is a lot cheaper on the long run.
to take it out.
Isn't there metal in CPUs, memory chips and stuff? I know there is
silicone but I assume there is metal like copper or something in there
too. They can't like heat cycles either. They are so small nowadays.
Dale
:-) :-)
.
By the authority vested in me by My-Wife-the-Windows-User, I welcome you
to
the gentoo-users mail list. (I don't recall your name from previous
months,
but, nevermind.)
I see that you've taken some heat in return for your opinions, but you've
maintained a very civil and polite tone to your
to it with a hammer either. :/
You can at least disconnect it then. Right now all it does and eat
power, heat the case and make noise :-/
My theory is something like this: hda will become sda; hdb will become
sdb; hdc will become sdc; hdd will become sdd; and sda will become sde.
Would that be a logical
or
something of that nature. It's just hard to get out of the case right
now and I can't get to it with a hammer either. :/
You can at least disconnect it then. Right now all it does and eat
power, heat the case and make noise :-/
My theory is something like this: hda will become sda; hdb
that thing had a bigger heat sink on it with fans. I may
change that thing pretty quick.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
). You can even take out
the battery (I even stripped an old laptop, removed the cpu, disks, heat
pipes, fans, and put it all back together on S4 and then resumed). S4
can leave some bios function and power for WOL and other devices, but
it's not essential.
In fact S5 which every modern ATX computer
was to downgrade gtkam to see if the old version crashes too.
Nothing else has been messed with since this morning.
Any ideas at all? I'm about ready to do a emerge -e world and see if
that helps. It's getting cool so I could use the heat anyway.
Dale
:-) :-)
. It's getting cool so I could use the heat anyway.
Anything in syslog, Xorg.log or dmesg about drm suddenly being turned off?
I'd get back into the garden and turn the air compressor to reverse.
Wonko
I checked messages, Xorg.log and dmesg, nothing out of the ordinary
(and have) drop my netbook from a certain
height, or thrown my bag in the sofa (forgetting it was inside, and on) and
never worry about my HDD failing. Also, less power, noise, heat, and some
(not very big) read speed improve. Besides, its a netbook, its supposed to
be a small storage, fast and simple
On 12/03/2010 05:38 PM, Dale wrote:
masterprometheus wrote:
Thanks for confirming that the coolers will fit. I did some googling
but it just wasn't making sense to me yet. I found a site later on that
said most coolers used different adapters to work with different
sockets if needed.
Dale wrote:
Thanks for confirming that the coolers will fit. I did some googling
but it just wasn't making sense to me yet. I found a site later on
that
said most coolers used different adapters to work with different
sockets if needed. That helped me figure out some of it.
Picking
Dale wrote:
masterprometheus wrote:
Dale wrote:
Your motherboard includes a serial port header. The only thing you
need
is a port like this one :
http://www.cablestogo.com/product.asp?cat_id=3543sku=09480#
Thanks for the link. If the mobo does have that when it gets here,
I'll
needs more performance. In a machine such as he's playing with
I wonder if he really wants ondemand (jumps to max and then slows down
over time) vs conservative which more slowly ramps up the clock rate
if the job at hand takes more time.
It's all a trade off of performance vs power heat.
On my 12
have endured untold days of heat and cold, and
nearly all of them survived to this day (barring some who got hit
directly by lightning).
The documentation is widely available on the 'net, the CLI is much
more intuitive than Cisco IOS, and their features are on a par with
the most expensive IOS
after all.
Manners dictates that apologies to Dale are in order.
Sorry Dale.
No need. I'm more worried about the heat over here. It's going to be
100F tomorrow. My poor garden is starting to cook the food as well as
grow it. O_O I just need to explain it better from now on. ;-)
Now
are in order.
Sorry Dale.
No need. I'm more worried about the heat over here. It's going to be
100F tomorrow. My poor garden is starting to cook the food as well as
grow it. O_O I just need to explain it better from now on. ;-)
You live down Louisiana/New Orleans way right? Sticking
in, has the most annual deaths for bicyclers ..
I think it's Randy Cassingham in the This Is True newsletter who
often mentions the prevalence of crazy people n FL.
Given the weather, it's no great surprise. The heat here makes me
feel pretty looney sometimes.
Do people down there spend
:-) :-)
I prefer overclocker boards and dont overclock them. Most of them
have a better heat dissipation and the PCB has a better layout
HF-wise.
Only my two cent...you currency may vary ;)
Best regards
mcc
.
Dale
:-) :-)
I prefer overclocker boards and dont overclock them. Most of them
have a better heat dissipation and the PCB has a better layout
HF-wise.
Only my two cent...you currency may vary ;)
Best regards
mcc
I have a Cooler Master HAF932 case. Cooling is not a issue here. BTW
. OK, it's
probably electrolytic caps deteriorated from heat, but electron rot
sounds much more dramatic ;-)
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
processors:[4] like the
ASUS Eee Pad Transformer (dual ARM Cortex-A9, touchscreen.
The future is ARM, bro Super low power, clusters
being developed that control resources awake/sleep/awake
in micro seconds and full sata interfaces. Intel cannot
compete with ARM on similar power/heat comparisons.
Several
:
[...]
The RAM gets hot when there's RAM load (meaning being used heavily), not
when there's CPU load :*)
Do you feel heat when your PC is turned on and running hard? Of course
you do. The whole machine heats up. The CPU under load heats the
machine so the RAM and drives and everything else heats up
. Of all the video issues I have ever
had on Linux, it has been built in video cards. There are other good
reasons for this too, heat being one of them.
As to Gigabyte as a brand, I have a 770 based mobo and it works great.
It's worth every penny and then some. I have also had good luck
in video
system, get a separate video card. Of all the video issues I have ever
had on Linux, it has been built in video cards. There are other good
reasons for this too, heat being one of them.
As to Gigabyte as a brand, I have a 770 based mobo and it works great.
It's worth every penny
around the cores. I guess it makes the CPU heat spread
out evenly or something.
Hope that helps.
Dale
:-) :-)
better get a new plan. The current one is shockingly the
wrong way to do it. lol Plus I hate when the lights go out. Winter
is about here and we have electric heat. :/
Dale
:-) :-)
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011 12:25:11 -0600
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux
on my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type.
I don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig
Am 10.11.2011 19:25, schrieb Dale:
Hi,
This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux on
my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I
don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig with
a slow CPU and not a lot of ram either
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux on my
brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I don't want
to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig with a slow
On Nov 11, 2011 5:17 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux
on my
brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type. I
Dale wrote:
Hi,
This is maybe a bit off topic but here goes. I want to install Linux
on my brothers rig. The heat sink on the CPU is not much, OEM type.
I don't want to install Gentoo because of that and it is a older rig
with a slow CPU and not a lot of ram either. So, what is a easy
Daniel Troeder wrote:
I'm using big WD Caviar Green (WDxxEAxx) SATA HDDs for some years now in
my home 24/7 server, and haven't had any issues - they run cool and
low-noise, and the performance is good. Low power and heat was what was
important for me when choosing. HDD performance isn't
On Wed, 09 May 2012 04:52:57 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I was thinking the same thing about the speed and them lasting longer
because of the slower speed. I mean, it's less wear and less heat.
I'd just hate to buy one and it be a piece of junk or something else I
wasn't expecting
with servers, and my only
experience with netbooting at all was with LTSP about 10 years ago.
I think having 4 CF cards (mirrored pair of mirrored pairs) will be
enough redundancy though... ;)
Well, these seem to work swimmingly well... now I just need to find some
kind of non-flammable/heat
advantages: Lower current (-
potentially lower power consumption and heat) and more transistors to do
something. The practical effects depend on what the chip maker does with
this.
In the same price range, AMD offers Bulldozer X8 FX-8150 (125W)
8-Core Socket AM3+, 3.6 GHz, 8Mb Cache, 32 nm
.
To be fair, power savings are relevant if you're concerned about your
electric bill, or if you're concerned about heat management in your
system.
Consider my dual E5345...leaving that on 24x7 appears to cost me about
90USD/mo.
CPU power savings will transform that into a 89.9USD/mo
just the thermal upper limit.
To be fair, power savings are relevant if you're concerned about your
electric bill, or if you're concerned about heat management in your
system.
Consider my dual E5345...leaving that on 24x7 appears to cost me about
90USD/mo.
CPU power savings will transform
consumer when compared to the total of the 6 500GB 7200 RPM hard
drives I have in the box.
Spinning disks consume surprisingly little power once they're up to
speed. My GPU, by comparison, doesn't seem to reduce heat generation
very much when relatively idle.
WRT to money spent to run a machine I hope
suspect it's not the biggest
power consumer when compared to the total of the 6 500GB 7200 RPM hard
drives I have in the box.
Spinning disks consume surprisingly little power once they're up to
speed. My GPU, by comparison, doesn't seem to reduce heat generation
very much when relatively idle
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Michael Hampicke gentoo-u...@hadt.biz wrote:
SNIP
Spinning disks consume surprisingly little power once they're up to
speed. My GPU, by comparison, doesn't seem to reduce heat generation
very much when relatively idle.
Idle on a GPU (in Linux) might be more
to fail because of anything, including heat, I
would rather it do so BEFORE I put my stuff on it. Right now, a backup
is not possible other than a blue ray or something. Also, I have a
Cooler Master case with the fan blowing right on the drives. If it gets
hot and blows a fuse, it has a problem
, it is unlikely that the
capacitors dried. But they could easily bloat, especially if they were
of bad quality or situated near some hot surface like heat sinks.
Testing the power supply needs not only visual analysis. It would be
good to attach the oscilloscope to the output and see the voltage
level
, so have a look in there just in case.
(2) Luxi Mono is not coming out cleanly in Gvim or (Xfce) Terminal :
IIRC there's a pkg or a setting somewhere to fix it,
but I can't find it in my extensive notes from the past.
(3) I have 4 heat sensors in Gkrellm : 'k10temp' + 3 * 'it87'.
Can
the brand
but it was driving a pair of Bose 901's and it was neat. The amps were
driving several hundred watts a channel with very little heat.
Dale
:-) :-)
--
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how
you interpreted my words!
off to clean dust out the CPU heat sink. With the machine back
in place but the side of the case off the AP in my office was dropping
packets all over the place. Download speeds went to about 30%. Case back on
and speeds went right back up.
Keep looking for EMI sources near the router. Mess
as a (liquid at working temperatures)
fluid, moves orders of magnitude more heat than air (as working fluid) does,
Sure Glycol or TEG (Tetraethylene Glycol) is best, but I do not have time
to find a non corrosive, non conducting fluid in lieu of water (although
Silicone
brake fluid or DOT-5 might
or
ridiculously expensive.
2) If you had a replacement part, it's probably a BGA part, and you
have to have special equipment (and/or a _lot_ of luck with a
heat-gun) to get the old part off and the new part on without
destroying the board or surrounding parts. Your best bet would
... don't ever remember
getting that type of speed in FF. This shows (via gkrellm) the effects
it had playing on this system:
http://www.servantsofyeshua.org/XITHbsUUlYI.mp4-screenshot.png Didn't
really heat my GPU (temp1) over 38C, and it's normally around 31C.
Here's another file check on the MP4
or surrounding room temperature?
I have an old computer whose fan has quit as happened once before.
CPUs generate considerable heat, I see system temperature and realize the fan
is much more critical than whether the room temperature is a chilly 20 C or
sweaty (for humans) 35 C.
I don't use that old 2001
order status, and analyze random things about job status
and customer base. I intend to set up a PostgreSQL server and write simple
graphical front ends for the employees. I'll do most of the advanced customer
base analysis for him. Eventually, I want to be generating heat maps of
cashflow from
!
Everything else is a distant concern. When did you last hear of a CPU
failure anywhere at any time? CPUs do not fail for the most part. When
they do it's because everything else got hot which brings us back to #2
in the list.
I had one fail a number of years ago but I do think it was because of
heat
* architectures on keen
issues of minimization. There is so much going on with ARM.
Minimization is about low power. The paradigm shift to low
power (the lowest heat) allows for for the greatest transistor
concentration == smallest size. ARM has beaten them all, AMD
sees the light and is working on a myriad
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