[geo] Geoengineering Techniques Assessment: Arctic, Antarctic and Amazonian Regions

Frozen Isthmuses Protection Campaign of the Arctic and North Atlantic Oceans (FIPC) has proposed several geoengineering techniques to manage Arctic sea ice, its formation and concentrations as well as ice bergs. We at FIPC have also worked on geoengineering in the Amazon region and presented at

Re: [geo] PRAG meeting and SLR: Satellite images reveal dramatic loss of global wetlands over past two decades

Hi Alan, Did you say it seriously, that we could induce a new ice age. I simply do not believe that. I think models are skewed for too little rather than too much considering long term background forcings already in place (as CO2 stays in air for circa 1000 years). New Scientists just

[geo] How to make things much whiter?

According this newly invented pigment the secret of whiter than white lies on particles being different sizes to suit sunlight wavelengths "And we use lots of different sizes of particles, because sunlight has different colours at the different wavelength." How much each particle scatters

Re: [geo] Sea level rise

-paper.gif]<https://www.academia.edu/33000316/MPs_to_review_UKs_role_in_Arctic_sustainability_-_24th_April_2017.docx> (DOC) MPs to review UK's role in Arctic sustainability - 24th April 2017.docx | Veli Albert Kallio - Academia.edu<https://www.academia.edu

[geo] LARGE WATER BODY OXYGENATION (SEAS, OCEANS) IN FOCUS (ENGINEERING OCEAN FOR CLIMATE WARMING)

n_M._Preparing_the_Amazon_Ecosystems_for_the_Changing_Climate_pp._240-241> (PDF) Kallio, Veli A. & Lappalainen, M.: Preparing the Amazon Ecosystems for the Changing Climate, pp. 240-241. | Veli Albert Kallio - Academia.edu<https://www.academia.edu/4299120/Kallio_Veli_A._and_Lappalainen_M._Preparing_the_Amazon_Ecosystems_for_the_Changing_Cl

Re: [geo] Re: [CDR] COP24: here's what must be agreed to keep warming at 1.5°C

I agree Adam Sacks that utilisation of desertified biosphere needs to be done. I would add even more that there is a need to utilise arid land masses far better with drip water irrigation which would allow reforestation in some areas where forests can be restored and build more robust food

Re: [geo] climateanalytics_srm_brief_dec_2018.pdf

palainen_M._Preparing_the_Amazon_Ecosystems_for_the_Changing_Climate_pp._240-241 Yours faithfully, Veli Albert Kallio, FRGS Vice-President, Sea Research Society Environmental Affairs Department https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Research_Society [https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/af/Sea_Research_Society%27s_first_headqu

Re: FW: [geo] Stopping the Flood: Could We Use Targeted Geoengineering to Mitigate Sea Level Rise?

d.edu/labs/caldeiralab <http://dge.stanford.edu/labs/caldeiralab> Assistant, with access to incoming emails: Jess Barker jbar...@carnegiescience.edu<mailto:jbar...@carnegiescience.edu> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:37 AM Veli Albert Kallio mailto:albert_kal...@hotm

[geo] Geoengineering and United Nations General Assembly Motion 101292 (UNFCCC-TAL-SRS02/04/2018)

United Nations General Assembly Motion 101292 for UNFCCC's Talanoa Dialogue United Nations Secretary-General Javier Pérez de Cuéllar issued authorization for the Hopi Nation to present their ethnoclimatology motion to the UN General Assembly, the investigation request remained languishing then

[geo] Trivalent Approach Needed to the Effective Geoengineering

We have recently been discussing here at Geoengineering group about slowing down the collapsing ice shelves by building barrier sills on the outlets of ice fjords and ice shelves - and perhaps diverting subglacial water flows from beneath ice sheet to keep the ice shelf fronts cooler to slow

Re: [CDR] Re: [geo] Re: Unexpectedly large impact of forest management and grazing on global vegetation biomass.

he warming of the northern regions, decay in lakes and in permafrost are accelerating. Meanwhile, the logged forests don't grow back for decades, and with every logging some nutrients are lost. Maggie On Saturday, January 6, 2018 3:44 PM, Veli Albert Kallio <albert_kal...@hotmail.com<

Re: [geo] Re: On when it might make sense for intervention to begin

at that point, some of the most dangerous runaway risks might be reversed although the world would be in great mess after the coastal flooding associated with a major GDF-like dispatch of ice into the world ocean. I hope my GDF-view would be the cause of the sudden and extreme Dryases. Veli Albert Kallio

Re: [geo] Can anyone offer a CE perspective on this SLR article?

"3. Furthermore, I assume that SRM would help with the SLR from warming water and ocean expansion (?), but is the amount of expected SLR from ocean expansion low compared to the amount we get from melting ice?" I presented evidence on the difficulties is quantifying the sea level rise risk

Re: [geo] Geostorm

od willing campaigners immensely seeing them nothing more than just a bunch of Donald Ducks. This is all very depressing for but it still does not justify what Robert stated above. Veli Albert Kallio Vice President, Environmental Affairs Department Sea Research Society https://en.wikipedi

Fw: [geo] Arctic Geoengineering and Tropical Rainfall

You my find this relevant that I recently added "Arctic Geoengineering" tag for www.academia.edu web-site where you can post material of this and related nature. I linked my Parliament evidence on Arctic changes to the new Arctic

[geo] US exit from Paris climate accord makes discussing how and whether to engineer the planet even harder

: From: Elizabeth Warren <i...@elizabethwarren.com> Sent: 09 June 2017 20:52 To: Veli Albert Kallio Subject: I'm really worried. Republicans think they have the votes for Obamacare [Elizabeth Warren for Massachusetts]<http://my.elizabethwarren.com/page/m

[geo] My Thoughts on the Motivation on Spying of Geoengineering Researchers...

Veli Albert Kallio has shared a OneDrive file with you. To view it, click the link below. <https://1drv.ms/b/s!AsDtkXiDzgyEhDwBww7yt5sF9HGm> [https://r1.res.office365.com/owa/prem/images/dc-pdf_20.png]<https://1drv.ms/b/s!AsDtkXiDzgyEhDwBww7yt5sF9HGm> Geoengineering Watch Monitori

Re: [geo] Scientists Consider Brighter Clouds to Preserve the Great Barrier Reef

stem(s) is workable. Best regards, Michael On Friday, April 28, 2017, Veli Albert Kallio <albert_kal...@hotmail.com> wrote: Most coral reefs have a lagoon which is like a bowl. The lagoon protects also from sharks coming from ocean to lagoon. The coldness would be absorbed by corals.

[geo] Scientists Consider Brighter Clouds to Preserve the Great Barrier Reef

Most coral reefs have a lagoon which is like a bowl. The lagoon protects also from sharks coming from ocean to lagoon. The coldness would be absorbed by corals. If the cold water is pumped near coast by the time it reaches outer reach of lagoon it will have warmed and done its job by cooling

[geo] Scientists Consider Brighter Clouds to Preserve the Great Barrier Reef

Scientists Consider Brighter Clouds to Preserve the Great Barrier Reef I would like to add that there are naturally occurring surface rising currents that bring nutrients and CO2 to surface i.e. along the coast of Chile. The viability of Greg's idea is not

Fw: [geo] Removal of non-CO2 greenhouse gases by large-scale atmospheric solar photocatalysis

Reply to Andrew's comment: There are companies that are making serious investments in this type of technology which have good potential to transform into real life products. My main concern is that, for example, nitrous oxide is resposible just 5% of warming in comparison to methane, while

RE: [geo] must read: geoengineering aircraft design

Hi Alan, I think that is a brilliant observation. I do like, though, the simplicity of the geoengineering idea. Sulphur dioxide also has a limited life span and it should not be seen a climatic monster like CFC's that hang around for years, decades, and centuries before flushed out. I think

RE: [geo] On why we'll very likely need climate engineering

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-10-billion-tons-of-coal-that-could-erase-obamas-progress-on-climate-change (The above link appeared fractured and as now above will connect to the site as intended) Motherboard: May 29, 2015 // 03:55 EST. Some 10.2 billion tons of coal, sitting on

[geo] RE: NewScientist: Methane apocalypse? Defusing the Arctic's time bomb

For queries: I had a photocopy of Nisbet article, but one oil woman stole my library, she trapped me to Norway promising huge expedition funds, then said she wants to study ... and the rest of that library is history. My copies vanished.. For Euan Nisbet's article can get it via British

RE: [geo] Throwing the Carbon Capture Baby out with the Coal Bath Water | Everything and the Carbon Sink

One problem with CCS is 'divide et rule'. Due to geology some countries that use fossil fuels can use CCS while other countries cannot. Thus UK might develop a viable fossil fuel use stashing carbon away, whereas for another country it would be economically unviable to artificially create

RE: [geo] Moderation policy

A self-censorship is a good idea. I think we all sometimes run out of new ideas and contributions, then a time may be when silence may be gold. Sometimes old ideas get forgotten, and deservere resurrection after a considerable time. Thus, no good ideas get forgotten; time may also refine old

RE: [AMEG 8562] Re: [geo] Re: 2. What are some potentially false 'memes' related to solar geoengineering?

As I have been looking at the sea ice thickeness measurements all through summer, it seems that the rate of sea ice pulverisation has gone up with more thickest ice being pushed to the Atlantic via the Fram Strait and also to the Barents Sea through the gaps between the Franz Joseph and

RE: [geo] Re: Haida Salmon Restoration Corp. | Haida announce termination of Russ George

I've never been enthusiastic on cold fusion euphoria when some reputable institutions went quite deeply onto it. If there is any scientific tulip mania similar to the investors, that is as far as I think the cold fusion fits the bill. On the other hand, businessmen are always in need of

[geo] Sulphur Power Once Again Shown Effective to Ameliorate Global Warming

Science News Study: Volcanoes have climate effect (3) | || inShare1 A new study indicates emissions from moderate volcanoes around the world, like the Augustine Volcano in Alaska, can mask some of the effects of global warming. Credit: U.S. Geological Survey Published: March. 1, 2013

RE: [geo] Sulphur Power Once Again Shown Effective to Ameliorate Global Warming

Global Warming From: andrew.lock...@gmail.com To: albert_kal...@hotmail.com Pls provide journal reference On Mar 4, 2013 12:22 AM, Veli Albert Kallio albert_kal...@hotmail.com wrote: Science News Study: Volcanoes have climate effect (3) | || inShare1 A new study indicates

RE: [geo] Re: Pacific iron fertilisation is 'blatant violation' of international regulations

I still think we need to focus on the fact that the public do find geoengineers a viable community deserving the support. We should not be distracted by the negative lobby groups like ETC because the public realises that the real problem in quantitative terms is the pollution we put out, not

RE: [geo] Re: Pacific iron fertilisation is 'blatant violation' of international regulations

We do not choose to focus on problems based on an objective appraisal of threats posed, but rather largely based on which actions we find to be most ethically repugnant. Apparently, dumping raw sewage simply to save the cost of sewage processing is less repugnant than fertilizing the ocean in

RE: [geo] Re: nuclear winter, from the archives

I wonder if Alan could clarify a bit his point no. 2: The TTAPS model had no heat capacity at the surface, so it was a model of the response in a continental interior. I think what you plotted was our global average response. The globe is 70% ocean. So the global average response would be

RE: [geo] Geoengineering and Climate Management: From Marginality to Inevitablity by Jay Michaelson :: SSRN

Robert. Do you or anyone know how we could make application for these junk science scholarships? 10. “junk science” is paid for by energy companies - $22 million by ExxonMobil alone since 1998. Surely, the First Nations (ACP) idea of digging radiocarbon beneath Greenland ice dome or

RE: [geo] UK Parliament report on Arctic CE (House of Commons - Environmental Audit (Hg.) (2012): Protecting the Arctic)

For global surface area, the Queen Elizabeth Islands are diminishing small. If the traffic conditions justified on the North West passage, installation on suspension cabling (which are used for bridges) could be implemented to create web of cabling that is mounted to islands and sea floor that

RE: [geo] Coupled Model Intercomparison Project 5 (CMIP5) simulations of climate following volcanic eruptions

Atmosmare is working on idea of ships being allowed to use SO2 containing fuels. However, it bears to be remembered that SO2 turns into sulphuric acid. We had acidification problem in 1970s and in Kola Peninsula near Murmansk and Nickel the heavy industries sulphate emissions have turned

RE: [geo] Re: SRM, Avoiding ocean anoxia

-changer to get the climate agenda moving once again. Kind regards, Albert Preparing the Amazon Ecosystems for the Changing Climate. Author:Mr. Veli Albert Kallio, Isthmuses' Protection Campaign of the Arctic and North Atlantic Oceans, UK Co-Author: Dr. Matti Lappalainen, Vesi-Eko Oy Water-Eco

RE: [geo] Moderator message - Please comment on open access

Hi All, Just to say that to keep Geoengineering group open to policy makers and journalists, who do not have time to go academic libraries. Neither have newspapermen. We do have those on our group as well.I am myself more on policy-making grounds on this group to try to encourage

[geo] Geoengineering Solutions Proposed for Another Age and Planet (1975)

Hard to believe that climate scientists once recommended melting the arctic ice cap on purpose – a mere 13 years before Hansen testified before congress [1988] that the planet was facing a heat death due to CO2. From Newsweek on April 28, 1975: Climatologists are pessimistic that

[geo] New CDR Technology to Filter CO2

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18396655 12 June 2012 Last updated at 11:42 New holey material soaks up CO2 Two interlocking but not completely overlapping structures leave room for gases UK researchers have developed a porous material that can preferentially soak up CO2

RE: [geo] 400 ppm and rising

Dear Stephen, I think that the metamorphosis of ice covered Arctic Ocean to open water plays the decisive role in the hydroxyl-driven methane oxidation: Lets just take a relatively moderate storm surge with the crest between 2-3 metres along Yakutian coast. While the wind propelled storm

RE: [geo] 400 ppm and rising

Sorry, I am not madman looking my binoculars at -78.5 °C, but -32.5 °C. Sorry for my typo, but can assure rest of figures accurate. From: albert_kal...@hotmail.com To: sebastian.car...@manchester.ac.uk; soco...@princeton.edu; mmacc...@comcast.net; s.sal...@ed.ac.uk CC:

[geo] RIO+20 WHAT SHOULD UK DO? MEETING WITH HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT ENVIRONMENTA AUDIT COMMITTEE

Dear Geoengineers, I think geoengineer presence at this meeting with the EAC that takes place at St Martins-in-the-Fields is important. We see now first signs of sea ice and sea bed methane ice breaking down very widely. St Martins-in-the-Fields Church has organised a meeting

RE: [geo] tropospheric aerosol use

The size of the termination shock is likely to be comparable to the graph when temperatures were suppressed from 1940-1970 when sulphur emissions were rising. The acid rains were starting to destroy forests (the Black Forest in Germany) and the acidity of Sweden's and Finland's lakes were

[geo] Esthetic Interferences and Inconvenience from Aerosol Use in Geoengineering

Hi All, Whilst researching for my Planet in Peril papers I have just come across a source that lists a potential risk of esthetic interferences and inconvenience from the aerosol use for Geoengineering purposes: Visibly blue moon The most literal meaning of blue moon is when the moon

RE: [geo] Re: Lindzen presents skeptics' case to UK House of Commons

To counter Lindzen's arguments, it bears to be remembered that decarbonisation need stands on its own feet even without any climate warming issue, due to ocean acidification. IF one rejects climate change, there is still plenty of scope to argue for geoengineering such as Carbon Dioxide

[geo] Utilising Cloud Cover Elevation Alteration to Control Global Warming

A new negative feedback has been observed which opens a possibility for a temperature adjustment and cooling by cloud cover height alteration. New reasearch suggests the upper atmosphere is getting colder or drier to the extent that the cloud tops now reach 1% lower than 10 years ago. This

[geo] BBC News Report on Supersaturated Methane Sequstration

BBC Lake Kivu gas: Turning an explosion risk into a power source http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16394635 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to this group, send email to

RE: [geo] Facebook

We challenge States to abandon false solutions to climate change ... These include [1.] nuclear energy, [2.] large-scale dams, [3.] geo-engineering techniques, [4.] “clean coal”, [5.] agro-fuels, [6.] plantations [of soya, sugar cane, oil palm whatever], and [7.] market based mechanisms such

[geo] New Geoengineering Target: Greenland Ice Sheet Snow Cover Whitening

Whitening of Greenland's snow cover is a new potential geoengineering target that we haven't discussed. Greenland Ice Sheet has been discovered darkening in 2011 with a new positive feedback in as follows:

RE: [geo] Further thoughts on Arctic methane

and scientists to pay off their mortgages and purchase holiday houses in Spain and Dubai are effective due to outright dishonesty of certain people with no moral. Veli Albert Kallio Vice-President Environmental Affairs, Sea Research Society International Guru Nanak Peace Prize Nominee for 2008;sea level rise

[geo] New Geoengineering Report (Hard Copies for Review and Distribution to Geoengineering Community)

feedback and review of this report will be much appreaciated which covers many old and several new geoengineering technologies. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to You All ! With kind regards, Veli Albert Kallio, FRGS Vice-President Environmental Affairs, Sea Reaserch Society

RE: [geo] Carbon monoxide

This is actually very bad news as both methane and carbon monoxide is created when the Arctic peat bogs are burning. It is carbon monoxide and smoke that cause the headaches and inhalation problems that killed 4,700 in Russia in summer 2010. So, carbon monoxide seems to be acting as methane

[geo] UN Wire: Hopes for post-Kyoto agreement are fading

It seems that for time being it all will have to be fixed with Geoengineering due to lack of commitment to cut CO2 emissions... Hopes for post-Kyoto agreement are fading Efforts to forge international agreement on binding greenhouse-gas emission-reduction targets to come into force as the

RE: [geo] Re: Arctic methane workshop: 15-16 October - Methane vents

+44 131 650 5704 Mobile 07795 203 195 www.see.ed.ac.uk/~shs On 05/10/2011 18:58, Veli Albert Kallio wrote: We need to consider carefully the plastic film, this could cause anoxic conditions under the plastic sheet. The shallow

[geo] RE: Arctic methane workshop: 15-16 October - Methane vents

We need to consider carefully the plastic film, this could cause anoxic conditions under the plastic sheet. The shallow portion of Arctic Ocean is likely to develop large storm surges and resulting currents as ocean becomes ice free. Every storm surge on surface is maintained by reverse flow

[geo] Death of Professor Wangari Muta Maathai

Dear All, Professor Wangari Muta Maathai, one of the greatest names in the climate change arena on the removal of carbon dioxide has sadly passed away somewhat untimely thus thinning the ranks of the combatants against climate chage, environmental degradation and deforestation.

[geo] GEOENGINEERING IMPLICATIONS: Adapting to Climate Change - Issue 19

I have recenly been occupied many non-geoengineering aspects of climate change, but today I received email from UK Met Office which is good news for SRM geoengineers. There are clear geoengineering potential arising from the latest research that the surface ocean warming has been halted by

[geo] NORTH POLE ICE CAP MELT-AWAY BREAKS ALL TIME RECORDS

NORTH POLE ICE CAP MELT-AWAY BREAKS ALL TIME RECORDS (Friday, 25.8.2011 14:00:00 GMT) 10 minutes ago came out the latest satellite readings showing the North Pole Ice Cap melt away has now reached ALL-TIME RECORD by 4,000 km2: 2,988,000 km2.

[geo] Arctic Ocean Ice Cover Loss Continues Unabatd

Decreasing North Pole ice cover is now second only to the year 2007; there is a month of melting to go: Sea ice area (Cryosphere Today): 1st: 2007: 2,992,000 km2 2nd: 2011: 3,065,000 km2 (~2-4 weeks to go) 3rd: 2010: 3,072,000 km2 (There will not be complete melt away this summer, the rate

[geo] ARCTIC OCEAN MELTS NOW 20% EACH 10 DAYS, RUSSIA'S NORTH-EAST PASSAGE OPENS FOR SHIPPING‏

The North East Passage has opened in North of Siberia again for shipping traffick: http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/N_daily_extent_hires.png Overall, the North Pole's sea ice appears like this today:

RE: [geo] Jim Hansen : 1 to 2DegC and 20m sea level rise

Have you been wondering, why the North Pole's sea ice is looking like this today? http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/NEWIMAGES/arctic.seaice.color.000.png Cryosphere Today has reported a phenomenal North Pole melting: North Pole's Ice Cap currently melts away at a phenomenal weekly rate

RE: [geo] September sea-ice gone by end of century? (or much sooner)

I would just ask people to draw attention to sea ice volume models. In addition to look at i.e. Cryosphere Today how the terrestrial defrost progressed this year, and check out temperature legend maps for North Canada and Siberia. How many natural processes behave the same way on their very

RE: [geo] Cost of Air Capture and the APS report

The fast growing arctic willow could be harvested and reburied by dumping the biomass onto lakes or sea. The soil in the Arctic is thick and the dried wood could also float to the sea if loaded onto the rivers (it sinks later to the seafloor). There are number of fast growing trees and bushes

[geo] Paris Air Show: Cryosat North Pole Marine Ice Cap Measurement

Revealed Now at Paris Air Show: Cryosat's North Pole Marine Ice Cap Measurement: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13829785 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups geoengineering group. To post to

RE: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC

I oppose vehemently the statement: Developed countries don't want to pay up (especially since many developing countries have corrupt regimes) This has holier-than-thou attitude and is only to harden polarisation and opposition of GE in developing world. After all, what is the definition of

[geo] Brazilian Geoengineering Project

Brazil appoints crisis cabinet after 600% increase in 2010 in the cutting of Brazilian rain forests cover is reported. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13449792 19 May 2011 Last updated at 09:25 Share this page Brazil: Amazon rainforest deforestation rises sharply

RE: [geo] Methane 'emergency stop button'

I think we have already passed the tipping point. The terrestrial snow cover has become very volatile both in Russia and North America. This is already resulting in record floods in the Missisippi basin and large and very early forest fires in Great Slave Lake area in Canada. On Russia,

RE: [geo] Arctic Council meeting on Thursday - the truth is out

away in most cases, but when supply of other nutritiens falls back methane accummulates after microbial digestion to carbon dioxide phases out. I hope this clarifies what happens to the methane and carbon dioxide as arctic reservoirs start leaking it. Yours sincerely, Veli Albert Kallio

RE: [geo] Lecture on Methane Hydrates by Dr. Mariam Kastner

This technique would require a wave/solar powered buoy feeding a microbubble stream(s) down the anchoring line to the appropriate depth. This type of buoy could also function as a monitoring station reporting multiple sounding via sat. link. There is even much better systems such as Mixox,

[geo] RE: Arctic methane

Hi John, Nitrous Oxide (N2O) is another Greenhouse gas melting permafrost releases besides methane and carbon dioxide which is often forgotten and there are substantial amounts of that as well. So, it should appear as a point 6. although it is not carbon, but its still biomass related.

RE: [geo] Speaking of losing the Arctic...

I agree fully with Gene's point. I think that geoengineering must stick just to one very simple point until research attracts adequate capital funding for developing more elaborate systems. The layman just get confused when too many options are placed for them. (In the end geoengineering will

RE: [geo] Fw: Scientists should communicate: the methane time bomb

The methane time bomb should be quantifiable as follows: When there were large scale destabilisation of depressurised and then sunlight and heat-exposed sea beds most of the 22,000 methane clathrate craters were formed onto the Russian coastal seas as methane ice took the impact from sun and

[geo] RE: Cooling trend in Spencer's latest figures

to Andrew Lockley for this reference. [3] http://groups.google.com/group/climateintervention/browse_thread/thread/af331f30cdc2272f --- On 08/04/2011 17:59, Veli Albert Kallio wrote: */Hi Alastair,/* [snip] Back in 2005 I forecasted that the Arctic Ocean would become ice free

RE: [geo] Another look at gunnery?

A good starter could be a study to identify the worlds disused mine shafts to test the concept of long barrels firing shells made of supercooled sulphuric acid. The shell casing could be considerably reduced, but ultimately these shafts would have to be dug into mountains to make the benefit

RE: [geo] Another look at gunnery?

, the carriages would be freed to follow their own trajectory upwards. As I see it, the main limitation is the g-force tolerated, which drops as a larger wheel is used. Is this just bonkers, or could it work? A On 5 April 2011 09:38, Veli Albert Kallio albert_kal...@hotmail.com wrote: I think

RE: [geo] Wind and wave energies are not renewable after all

Although I am member of Environmentalists For Nuclear (EFN) I suspect that it is our nuclear sponsors and Australian uranium mining who have concocted this concern of winds running out in the aftermath of Japan nuclear disaster in order to dismiss the renewables as serious alternative. In any

RE: [geo] Re: Relocate the moon to Earth Sun L1

Wouldn't it make more sense to blow dust out of moonscape by using thermonuclear devices, although this is bad for satellites, it could create a rotating dust cloud to dim some of the sunlight. It would destroy astronomy, but save the Earth? Albert Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 16:25:51 -0800

[geo] Oxford Round Table Climate Change Conference: March 27 – April 1, 2011.

Hi All, Do you now anything about this Oxford conference on Climate change in March 2011? It looks interesting and I would be interested in presenting geoengineering perspectives on this climate change conference. Do we have any voices from our group attending on this climate forum?Please

[geo] Seeding Sea Ice - New SRM Method

Dear Geoengineering Group, For over a year now I have concentrated on occasional information relays to Climateintervention rather than on the more demanding creative sides, due to my other climate-related projects. However, I think this observation is important sea ice aspect to be

[geo] Geoengineering Videos

Some new videos have been put on Geoengineering (mostly critical) on YouTube. To have an idea what is said about geoengineering, please have a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9rXydMmfwfeature=player_embedded http://www.realityzone.com/whatspray.htmlwww.youtube.com

RE: [clim] RE: [geo] The problem with stratospheric SRM - plane pricing

of distributing particles at the heights required. Trivial amounts of research money are required for this but so far I cant get any. Grant proposal attached again. johngorman - Original Message - From: Veli Albert Kallio To: David Keith ; oliver.wingen...@gmail.com ; kcalde

RE: [clim] RE: [geo] The problem with stratospheric SRM

Note that Gorman has proposed direct formation of silicates in commercial aircraft exhaust, following earlier suggestions of sulfur in jet fuel. Commercial aircraft don’t flight at the right height or location to efficiently deliver materials to the stratosphere. You need to be in the

RE: [geo] Geoengineering in Plan B

RE: FROM PLAN B TO PLAN ZERO - THERE IS NEED TO EXPOSE THE MISINFORMATION BY ANTI-GEOENGINEERING ALARMISTS Time and again there appears references to a conspiratory individual who goes it alone to change world climate for good or bad by geoengineering. There is no ground in these

RE: [geo] Arctic ice at lowest point in recent geological history

I came across this issue of ice free Arctic Ocean in context of the Independence I Culture of Greenland and the elevated beaches of the Independence Fjord in North West Greenland. One Norwegian scientist wrote an article to the climate skeptics web site about it and claimed that the

RE: [geo] SEA ICE LOSS STUNS SCIENTISTS - sea ice galaxies, circles and ovals tell the story

Good observation otherwise, but the thinned ice breaks up and scatters more. If you look at satellite pictures a few years ago the sea ice was not nearly as fluid as it is today. The North Pole sea ice is predominantly arranged such a way that some of the regular geometries resulting from

RE: [geo] SEA ICE LOSS STUNS SCIENTISTS - open letter to Arctic Council

When I was press-spokesman to Arctic Mirror of Life symposium (convened by HE Kofi Annan and HE Jose Manuel Barroso) with Robert (Bob) Correl, he was the lead author of the Arctic impact report of the Arctic Council. (J. Lubachenko was our third spokesman.) Bob Correl is extremely

[geo] DARK SURFACES DO GET WARMER, ENHANCING GLACIER MELT

be washed away. 3. Good to see that the World Bank has its act together. Can't wait to hear about the other 25 winners. - Original Message - From: Veli Albert Kallio To: Geoengineering FIPC Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 3:59 Subject: [geo] THE WORLD BANK FUNDED MOUNTAIN WHITENING

RE: [geo] Hypothetical SRM Question

If there were need to have a counteracting agent (that would not have long life span like CFC's), I would think that the carbon black could be used to trap heat. However, as an aerosol, it also acts as a condensing surface, creating cloud droplets, and if flushed to snow, darkening. The

[geo] Geoengineering and Role of Algae on CDR: Study at sea assesses ash impacts

This major study is helpful in assessing geoengineering potential from the artificial algae booms as a viable CDR method: Study at sea assesses ash impacts Scientists hope to gather ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/science_and_environment/10091568.stm

[geo] Geoengineering Event Approved for COP15/COP16 Intermediate Climate Change Summit in Cochabamba, Bolivia

Hi All, RE: COP15/COP16 Intermediate Climate Change Summit in Cochabamba, Bolivia Just as an update, I glad that we have got an approval for The Peoples’ World Conference on Climate Change and Mother Earth’s Rights from 20th to 22nd April 2010 in Cochabamba, Bolivia subsequent to my

RE: [geo] Re: SRM geoengineering: how to deal with the losers?

Hi Paul, STRAND How to Deal with the Losers. I would like to reply briefly to your rhetorical question: What am I missing? First of all, I think you are absolutely right that geoengineers would be accused of causing any unpleasant weather and if there were severe weather's like some

RE: [geo] Methane - time for realism

some of them and burn nucleating methane-carbon dioxide mixtures rather than letting them GHGs to go for birds. Wint kind regards, Veli Albert Kallio Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 09:55:56 -0500 Subject: Re: [geo] Methane - time for realism From: mmacc...@comcast.net To: j...@cloudworld.co.uk

[geo] Global Solicitation for Alternative Schemes - Invitation to Join COP15 Follow-up Summit

again suggest me that there are at least some parties, may be, in the military that knows the sea ice conditions is even worse. With kind regards, Veli Albert Kallio Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 09:22:26 -0800 Subject: [geo] Re: Global Solicitation for Alternative Schemes From: m2des

[geo] COP15 follow up summit invitation

' complaints. With kind regards, Veli Albert Kallio Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:43:09 + From: j...@cloudworld.co.uk To: john.latha...@manchester.ac.uk CC: geoengineering@googlegroups.com; climateintervent...@googlegroups.com; lat...@ucar.edu Subject: [clim] Re: [geo] Polar Sea-Ice

[geo] Handling uncertainty in science, 22-23 March

For your diary: This conference is pertinent as one of the key argument against geoengineering is uncertainty. The filosophy goes if you do not know what you are doing, then it is probably better to do nothing. Then the issues of abrupt climate change (Type 2 climate change). If able

[geo] CLOUD SEEDING WILL WORK - AFTER ALL ITS NATURAL AT LEAST IN THE ANTARCTIC SEAS

This arrived via the UN Wire. This article points to positive points of blowing sea salt into air once again. The increases of ozone may on the other hand have also negative effects. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/26/science/earth/26ozone.html?ref=world The Ozone Hole Is Mending.

[geo] GEOENGINEERING EXPERIMENTS BY UK AIR FORCE CREATE CLOUDS ABOVE BRITAIN

The British Army created a circular holding pattern to create an immense artificial coil in the sky made of the military aeroplane's contrail. This was then easy to distinguish and track by satellites to see undisputed, how aeroplane emissions can be made to turn clear skies to artificial

RE: [geo] Re: H2 in the atmosphere

I recall this too. But then I read that hydroxyl OH- has a positive effect on the ozone. Is there any way to send a generators of hydroxyl, some sort of catalysator that would turn up that and help to create ozone which is said to be higher in the presence of OH- ions. From:

[geo] USA Agrees Emission Cuts of Only 3-4% by 2020

Hi All, I just noticed that USA has just announced 3-4% emission cuts by 2020 which is a way too low to address any of the issues for the practical purposes. 3-4% cut refers to the baseline which is comparable to one used by the European Union where the baseline year is 1990. The USA

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