Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 22:03 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not sure if you're assuming everyone is using gnome here. I work on
> xfce4 and I dont have a screenshot applet or whatever. I have scrot if I
> dont use gimp. Most window manager screenshots seems just to grab the
> whol
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 19:09 -0600, Clarence Risher wrote:
> Sven's argument is true, but does not address my point. In every case
> like this the process will be more complex than just shot-clip-done.
> In cases of non-rectangular areas the clipping will be quite annoying.
> And in the rare
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:22:11 +0100, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any particular reason why you didn't use the screenshot feature of your
> desktop for this? Just asking. Please don't get upset again. I am only
> trying to get an idea on why you prefer to use the screenshot plug-in
> f
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 17:24:59 +0200
From: Alexander Rabtchevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Raphaël, this IS exactly my point! Why should the global variables
be prohibited if there is no difference in memory consumption with
local ones, only additional efforts to a programmer to track al
On 1/30/07, peter sikking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Clarence Risher wrote:
> > On 1/30/07, peter sikking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > - the fact that it is a piece of cake to cut out a rectangle
> > >out of a image in GIMP, or two added rectangles (window +
> > >menu sticking out).
>
Hi,
On Wed, 2007-01-31 at 00:53 +0100, peter sikking wrote:
> So I had a look, one delay, but they also gave me an idea how
> we can make everybody here happy, without the cost of two delays:
>
> In 'snap window' mode the shot shall be taken:
>
> a) on the first mouse-down after the timer (can
Sven wrote:
>> We would like to see however two improvements:
>>
>> 1) A big, fat visual countdown of the delay. I can see a
>> big (200 point font) semitransparent numbers overlaying
>> the screen counting down 4-3-2-1. No more guessing how
>> long do we still have to get that other w
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 23:58 +0200, Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
> You may need both delays, so I think a second "wait" line not only
> makes for a fully functional plugin, but removes the ambiguity as to
> when the delay is applied. In
> http://master.math.upatras.gr/~steve/gimp/ you can find
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 11:58:08PM +0200, Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
> On 1/28/07, Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
> > So it seems both options are needed. What about a checkbox below the
> > delay to select when the delay will be applied?
> >
>
> You may need both delays, so I think a second "wait" l
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 12:36:54PM -0800, Akkana Peck wrote:
> Alex Pounds writes:
> > On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:22:11PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > > Any particular reason why you didn't use the screenshot feature of your
> > > desktop for this? Just asking.
> >
> > Not everybody uses a desk
On 1/28/07, Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
> So it seems both options are needed. What about a checkbox below the
> delay to select when the delay will be applied?
>
You may need both delays, so I think a second "wait" line not only
makes for a fully functional plugin, but removes the ambiguity as t
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 14:03 -0600, Clarence Risher wrote:
> For the record, windows are not always rectangular, or do not always
> fill their bounding box. Or they may contain (alpha) transparent
> areas that are well nigh uncleanable when full-screen screenshot'd
> without sufficient prearr
Sven Neumann writes:
> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 08:22 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
>
> > I don't think that the NEWS file is the right place for this. Someone
> > should set up a detailed description of the changes with instructions on
> > how to fix scripts that stop working after the update. We shoul
Alex Pounds writes:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:22:11PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> > Any particular reason why you didn't use the screenshot feature of your
> > desktop for this? Just asking.
>
> Not everybody uses a desktop that has a screenshot feature built in. I
> don't, and whenever I wan
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 08:22:11PM +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Any particular reason why you didn't use the screenshot feature of your
> desktop for this? Just asking.
Not everybody uses a desktop that has a screenshot feature built in. I
don't, and whenever I want a screenshot I use the Gimp pl
On 1/30/07, peter sikking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - the fact that it is a piece of cake to cut out a rectangle
>out of a image in GIMP, or two added rectangles (window +
>menu sticking out).
For the record, windows are not always rectangular, or do not always
fill their bounding box.
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:04:31 +0100, Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> [ ... skip to end of message ... ]
> P> I think that puts an end to any doubts,
> Oh, well, that's it, then.
> There's no point in mere users trying to offer any input.
hmm, when I first read that earlier it sounded un
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 11:04 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote:
> For the book, I had to make hundreds of screenshots, many of them
> showing menus or other transient features such as brush outlines.
> For some, where the menus were entirely inside the window, I was
> able to use "single window" with d
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 11:04 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote:
> It wasn't? I waited more than a day after your last posting, and
> there was nothing more. I don't think most of us thought that more
> begging was going to accomplish anything after you said no.
I never said no. I only explained the ch
Sven Neumann writes:
S> Also your approach is very lame indeed. This discussion wasn't even
S> close to coming to an end.
It wasn't? I waited more than a day after your last posting, and
there was nothing more. I don't think most of us thought that more
begging was going to accomplish anything af
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 17:51 +0100, peter sikking wrote:
> We would like to see however two improvements:
>
> 1) A big, fat visual countdown of the delay. I can see a
> big (200 point font) semitransparent numbers overlaying
> the screen counting down 4-3-2-1. No more guessing how
>
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 08:22 +0100, Sven Neumann wrote:
> I don't think that the NEWS file is the right place for this. Someone
> should set up a detailed description of the changes with instructions on
> how to fix scripts that stop working after the update. We should then
> refer to this doc
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 13:10 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How about this: get rid of the delay completely, and instead take the
> screenshot when a certain key (eg. F12) is pressed?
This works nicely but can only be implemented reasonably well on the
Desktop level. Actually, it's exactly
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 11:32 +0100, Simon Budig wrote:
> Please realize that your mails sound very much like you dont really want
> to change anything.
True. I don't think that the requested change should be made. That does
however not mean that it cannot be done and will not be done. There h
Well what do you know?
At the moment Kamila and I are very busy with our (interaction
architecture) expert evaluation of the current GIMP, and this
morning we happen to stop by the screenshot plugin.
We actually took into account all comments made in this thread
up to that moment.
Here are our f
Alexander Rabtchevich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Raphaël, this IS exactly my point! Why should the global variables be
> prohibited if there is no difference in memory consumption with local
> ones, only additional efforts to a programmer to track all parenthesis.
Because global variables are
Raphaël, this IS exactly my point! Why should the global variables be
prohibited if there is no difference in memory consumption with local
ones, only additional efforts to a programmer to track all parenthesis.
The common namespace is the other problem - it is due the luck of
interpreter usage
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 16:06:00 +0200, Alexander Rabtchevich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Some more thoughts on local variables in scheme from a newbie POV.
>
> Due to a parenthesis syntaxes of variable declaration area, if variable
> x is declared before variable y and y is declared before x is dr
Some more thoughts on local variables in scheme from a newbie POV.
Due to a parenthesis syntaxes of variable declaration area, if variable
x is declared before variable y and y is declared before x is dropped, x
remains active at least until y is dropped.
(let (x 1)
...
(let (y 2)
;x is
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 15:13:45 +0300
From: "Alexandre Prokoudine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On 1/30/07, Robert L Krawitz wrote:
> For my part, I've been awfully tempted to port the GTK 1.2 file load
> and save dialogs forward to GTK 2.x. I suspect that my limited time
> is better sp
On 1/30/07, Marco Ciampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 01:10:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > How about this: get rid of the delay completely, and instead take the
> > screenshot when a certain key (eg. F12) is pressed?
> It could be an answer if:
>
> 1) the key is cu
On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 01:10:56PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How about this: get rid of the delay completely, and instead take the
> screenshot when a certain key (eg. F12) is pressed?
It could be an answer if:
1) the key is customizable
2) we are really shure that there is no way that ano
On 1/30/07, Robert L Krawitz wrote:
> For my part, I've been awfully tempted to port the GTK 1.2 file load
> and save dialogs forward to GTK 2.x. I suspect that my limited time
> is better spent on Gutenprint and perhaps KPhotoAlbum, but those
> dialogs are simply very painful to use.
http://pro
On Tuesday, January 30, 2007, 9:35:17, Sven Neumann wrote:
> We have had several reports about this UI being confusing. Users filed
> bug reports claiming that the plug-in wouldn't do the right thing.
> Obviously they did not understand the user interface. And that is not
> surprising because it i
From: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 09:35:17 +0100
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 02:26 -0600, Clarence Risher wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > to propose a user interface that fits all needs.
>
> imho, the 2.2 interface met al
Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Also your approach is very lame indeed. This discussion wasn't even
> close to coming to an end. It would have been a lot nicer to propose a
> solution instead of wasting time like this.
Please realize that your mails sound very much like you dont really w
On Tue, 30 Jan 2007 08:24:40 +0100, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 09:11 +0200, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:
> > But the inability to use global
> > variables along with scheme syntaxes leads to a good deal of parentheses
> > which could be a problem to a program
Clarence, would it be better to be not so aggressive? ;)
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On 1/30/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 02:26 -0600, Clarence Risher wrote:
> > On 1/30/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > to propose a user interface that fits all needs.
> >
> > imho, the 2.2 interface met all needs. i have yet to hear any reaso
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 02:26 -0600, Clarence Risher wrote:
> On 1/30/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > to propose a user interface that fits all needs.
>
> imho, the 2.2 interface met all needs. i have yet to hear any reason
> for eliminating either option, other than removing O
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 10:22 +0200, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:
> Current crop implementation (2.3.14) is very nice though it lacks a
> listbox with user-defined ratios. I really love it. The 2.3.14 has
> introduced a little inconvenience from my POV: the corner rectangles are
> too much br
On 1/30/07, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> to propose a user interface that fits all needs.
imho, the 2.2 interface met all needs. i have yet to hear any reason
for eliminating either option, other than removing ONE element from
the screenshot GUI.
(sorry for the dupe email Sven)
Hi,
On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 09:55 +0200, Alexander Rabtchevich wrote:
> So if the scripts were loaded dynamically on demand:
If I understood Kevin correctly the long-term goal for Tiny-Fu is to
start the interpreter on demand for each script that is executed. So at
some point scripts will behave m
Current crop implementation (2.3.14) is very nice though it lacks a
listbox with user-defined ratios. I really love it. The 2.3.14 has
introduced a little inconvenience from my POV: the corner rectangles are
too much bright. They interfere with an attempt to value the composition
while framing.
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