[Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Hello, The last discussion about using CIE LCH for some layer modes made me remember that there is a CIE LCH color selector plugin for GIMP that many people would like to see included in the main GIMP distribution sooner or later. It has room for improvements (for example when colors out of

Re: [Gimp-developer] XMPModel and custom signals

2009-08-03 Thread Roman Joost
Hi Martin, On Sun, Aug 02, 2009 at 01:58:20PM +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 08/02/2009 01:50 PM, Roman Joost wrote: does not change the fact that it would be nice to have a 'property-changed' signal as a convenience if you have the need to listen property changes So ... I'm just

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 10:45 AM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: Hello, The last discussion about using CIE LCH for some layer modes made me remember that there is a CIE LCH color selector plugin for GIMP that many people would like to see included in the main GIMP distribution sooner or later. Before we add

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Martin Nordholts wrote: Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't. I'm all for adding a Lab/LCH color picker when that is fixed though. Ah, I see, thanks anyway for checking it out. By the way, as I

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 05:07 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: Martin Nordholts wrote: Before we add support for picking device-independent colors, the whole color selector should be color managed, and it currently isn't. by not color managed did you refer to this specific implementation of a LCH color

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread SHIRAKAWA Akira
Martin Nordholts wrote: I'm referring to the whole GIMP color picking system. The color picked using the default color picker is not represented in a device-independent way. One of the consequences is that painting with a green brush on a color managed image might not give a green stroke

Re: [Gimp-developer] CIE-LCH Color selector?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 05:44 PM, SHIRAKAWA Akira wrote: Can you give a rough estimate of when a color managed picking system will be integrated into GIMP ? Making the color picker color managed has not been incorporated in any short or long term plan yet. So yeah, maybe we will get around to do it in

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 17:41 +, Omari Stephens wrote: More specifically, once I hit Ctrl+E and see the status message not saying anything about exporting, I expect the file to have been saved. If GIMP thinks there were no changes, it should say no changes to save in a way that is

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Alexia Death
On Monday 03 August 2009 22:20:29 Sven Neumann wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 17:41 +, Omari Stephens wrote: More specifically, once I hit Ctrl+E and see the status message not saying anything about exporting, I expect the file to have been saved. If GIMP thinks there were no changes, it

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-08-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 13:10 +0200, Martin Nordholts wrote: What is the migration time? You would have to deal with this on each and every start of GIMP. System resources may have changed, due to a minor or micro GIMP update or because the system maintainer added or removed resource

Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 09:33 PM, Sven Neumann wrote: GIMP has done it the way you proposed in the past and copied system resources to the user directory. This was ugly and caused lots of grief. Eventually we got rid of this mess and now you are proposing to undo this work and to reintroduce this

Re: [Gimp-developer] XMPModel and custom signals

2009-08-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Fri, 2009-07-31 at 15:12 +1000, Roman Joost wrote: I could and the patch provided by that bug adds a custom 'property-changed' signal. Sven and Mitch thought, if I inherit from XMPModel, I wouldn't really need the 'property-changed' signal, because I'd be able to control the

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Jay Smith
On 08/03/2009 03:28 PM, Alexia Death wrote: On Monday 03 August 2009 22:20:29 Sven Neumann wrote: On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 17:41 +, Omari Stephens wrote: More specifically, once I hit Ctrl+E and see the status message not saying anything about exporting, I expect the file to have been saved.

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 15:51 -0400, Jay Smith wrote: While maybe 5 seconds might be a little quick, conceptually I agree that it should not last very long. Maybe 8 or 10 seconds or even 15 seconds. But not longer. Maybe five seconds is indeed somewhat short. Would anyone object if we

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread gg
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 15:51 -0400, Jay Smith wrote: While maybe 5 seconds might be a little quick, conceptually I agree that it should not last very long. Maybe 8 or 10 seconds or even 15 seconds. But not longer. Maybe five seconds is indeed somewhat short.

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Jay Smith
On 08/03/2009 05:04 PM, gg wrote: snip lots It is NOT an effective way of displaying important error messages that NEED to be seen. As I said in my original post , this is not a by the way the image was not saved it is an error condition what warrants an modal dialogue and a user

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 11:04 PM, gg wrote: As I said in my original post , this is not a by the way the image was not saved it is an error condition what warrants an modal dialogue and a user response. Please let's not bombard the UI with modal dialogs. They are excellent for interrupting workflows

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Jay Smith
On 08/03/2009 05:12 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: On 08/03/2009 11:04 PM, gg wrote: As I said in my original post , this is not a by the way the image was not saved it is an error condition what warrants an modal dialogue and a user response. Please let's not bombard the UI with modal

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 08/03/2009 11:19 PM, Jay Smith wrote: _I_ would want my workflow interrupted if the program was not going to do what I had asked it to do. Maybe that's just me. Hi Jay When you do a File - Save you want to make sure that your changes is safely written to disk, right? If you have made no

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Sparr
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Jay Smithj...@jaysmith.com wrote: On 08/03/2009 03:28 PM, Alexia Death wrote: Why only 5 seconds? why not until something else happens? IMHO 5 seconds is not enough. One of my annoyances with a couple of other programs that I use a lot is that such types of

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread gg
Martin Nordholts wrote: On 08/03/2009 11:19 PM, Jay Smith wrote: _I_ would want my workflow interrupted if the program was not going to do what I had asked it to do. Maybe that's just me. Hi Jay When you do a File - Save you want to make sure that your changes is safely written to

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Patrick Horgan
gg wrote: ... much erudition elided... 10s may help but IMHO this method of notification is far too unobtrusive. The STATUS bar should be for relaying status information. Information that relates to the state of the program. It is used effectively to prompt awareness of hot key

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread gg
Sparr wrote: Maybe I just want to 'touch' the file and saving is the fastest possible way to do that. Perhaps I modified or deleted the file on disk, and want to save the copy that exists in GIMP over whatever is on the disk. I am not sure if GIMP is already aware of this situation Valid

[Gimp-developer] Bug #164774

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher Howard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164774 Hi - I was going to look into this enhancement. It was a request to make it possible for the user to change the zero-point of the image rulers. However, it looks like the last comment was made about

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Christopher Curtis
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Martin Nordholts ense...@gmail.com wrote: Please let's not bombard the UI with modal dialogs. They are excellent for interrupting workflows and annoying users. The proper solution is to make changing the comment dirty the image, it is not to show a modal While

Re: [Gimp-developer] cant save image with new comment

2009-08-03 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2009-08-03 at 22:06 -0400, Christopher Curtis wrote: [...] If you think of how some IM clients notify, this 'elevated status' message could pop up from the status bar. It would stay open for 10-15 seconds and then disappear back into the status bar. So I press save, and go for a