Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-02-04 Thread Łukasz Czerwiński
2011/1/28 Alexia Death alexiade...@gmail.com 2011/1/28 Łukasz Czerwiński lc277...@students.mimuw.edu.pl: I'd like to write a little bit on some of the topics. QA I think that for a start a Wiki with QA edited by everyone could be a good solution. If it gets too complicated, it can be

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Stephen Greenwalt stephengreenw...@gmail.com * It seems to work best to put the entire project (all source, and all build product) under a project folder in the Home directory. * If possible, that should include a *copy *of any external dependencies with environment variables (etc)

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 1/28/11, Kevin Cozens wrote: Eric Grivel wrote: Which is where my thought of a boot camp came in. What if there was a group of potential new developers all struggling with the same learning curve? Wouldn't it be great if an experienced Gimp developer could lead the whole group through a

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Patrick Horgan
On 01/27/2011 03:56 PM, Stephen Greenwalt wrote: Boot Camp . . . good idea.  Docs . . . good idea. Let the newbie's like me (coming out of boot camp) write some of the Docs. Presently I have everything compiled and running under

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Łukasz Czerwiński
I'd like to write a little bit on some of the topics. *QA* * * As a beginner developer, I'd like to know the place where answers to all my stupid questions are answered. In one place. E.g.: - How to commit to git tree? - What's the best way to submit a patch? When I asked this question on

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 08:39 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: Hmm I don't understand your reasoning. So you rather waste time manually refactoring Java code than using Eclipse' excellent integrated reafactoring features? Yes, though your evaluation of excellent could be argued as subjective.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Ρυακιωτάκης Αντώνης
On 28 January 2011 17:58, Michael J. Hammel mjham...@graphics-muse.org wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 08:39 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote: Hmm I don't understand your reasoning. So you rather waste time manually refactoring Java code than using Eclipse' excellent integrated reafactoring

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Rob Antonishen
I'd just settle for good step by step instruction on getting a windows cross compile working. I've had no problem getting from git and compiling for Ububtu in a Ubuntu VM, but whenever I ask how to set up the tools for windows cross-compile I get hand-waving and oh just redefine your compiler

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Alexia Death
2011/1/28 Łukasz Czerwiński lc277...@students.mimuw.edu.pl: I'd like to write a little bit on some of the topics. QA I think that for a start a Wiki with QA edited by everyone could be a good solution. If it gets too complicated, it can be split in sections, pages, categories and so on. Such

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Friday, January 28, 2011, 19:08:43, Rob Antonishen wrote: I'd just settle for good step by step instruction on getting a windows cross compile working. I posted the instructions to the list some time ago: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.gimp.devel/19202/focus=19203 -- Jernej

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread gg
On 01/28/11 11:22, Patrick Horgan wrote: * Shouldn't we standardize on a common development IDE (like Eclipse)? If I am missing something in that area . . . let me know. I think the only thing you're missing is that there is no need for we to standardise. If you want to use an IDE that does

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Malix0
Hi, why don't put those instractions on the site? Can be a good start point. Massimo Il 28/01/2011 19.20, Jernej Simončič ha scritto: On Friday, January 28, 2011, 19:08:43, Rob Antonishen wrote: I'd just settle for good step by step instruction on getting a windows cross compile working.

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-28 Thread Kevin Cozens
?ukasz Czerwin'ski wrote: Maybe just a good documentation for GIMP source is needed? Once I tried to patch TinyScheme interpreter to make it work faster. In files I was working on was almost no comments. TinyScheme is another project with little to no documentation. I would be interested to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Pete Bergstrom
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Eric Grivel g...@lumenssolutions.com wrote: I am getting the impression that the Gimp project is trapped in a chicken-and-egg problem with regard to attracting new contributors, where the few core developers are too busy maintaining the product to spend a lot

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Jay Smith
On 01/27/2011 04:43 PM, Eric Grivel wrote: I am getting the impression that the Gimp project is trapped in a chicken-and-egg problem with regard to attracting new contributors, where the few core developers are too busy maintaining the product to spend a lot of time helping new developers come

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Øyvind Kolås
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Pete Bergstrom petebergst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Eric Grivel g...@lumenssolutions.com wrote: I am getting the impression that the Gimp project is trapped in a chicken-and-egg problem with regard to attracting new contributors,

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Łukasz Czerwiński
Maybe just a good documentation for GIMP source is needed? Once I tried to patch TinyScheme interpreter to make it work faster. In files I was working on was almost no comments. Łukasz Czerwiński ___ Gimp-developer mailing list

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Stephen Greenwalt
Boot Camp . . . good idea. Docs . . . good idea. Let the newbie's like me (coming out of boot camp) write some of the Docs. Presently I have everything compiled and running under Ubuntu, and I am just reviewing the code to get some sort of context. It is huge. Incredible, actually. Who wrote

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Eric Grivel
On 01/27/2011 05:29 PM, Øyvind Kolås wrote: Feel free to drop by the #gimp and #gegl IRC channels to ask directed smart questions for understanding the code. Also be aware that some of the existing core contributors both dislike email in the first place, and are cursed by knowledge thus not

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Kevin Cozens
Eric Grivel wrote: Which is where my thought of a boot camp came in. What if there was a group of potential new developers all struggling with the same learning curve? Wouldn't it be great if an experienced Gimp developer could lead the whole group through a series of exercises, designed to

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Michael J. Hammel
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 16:56 -0700, Stephen Greenwalt wrote: * The project ought to be able to exist in a bubble . . . so as to avoid confusion . . . regarding copies of dependencies that might exist in the OS. Automated builds are typically used to verify dependency issues on multiple

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/27/2011 10:43 PM, Eric Grivel wrote: I am getting the impression that the Gimp project is trapped in a chicken-and-egg problem with regard to attracting new contributors, where the few core developers are too busy maintaining the product to spend a lot of time helping new developers come

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/28/2011 12:56 AM, Stephen Greenwalt wrote: It is huge. Incredible, actually. Who wrote all of this? Wow. To see who wrote all this, visit https://www.ohloh.net/p/gimp/contributors A few comments: * It seems to work best to put the entire project (all source, and all build

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Cameron Gregory
On 01/28/2011 05:22 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote: Our nightly builder is found at http://gimptest.flamingtext.com:8012/waterfall which curiously enough failed this night to my changes yesterday, but I fixed that already... It's not curious, it's the beauty of the nightly build. It breaks

Re: [Gimp-developer] Developer Boot Camp?

2011-01-27 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 01/28/2011 05:01 AM, Michael J. Hammel wrote: * Shouldn't we standardize on a common development IDE (like Eclipse)? If I am missing something in that area . . . let me know. IDE's are crutches. Based on the source tree I don't think the developers use them but I could be wrong. I don't