Martin Nordholts wrote:
> world of interaction design will give you valuable insights. I recommend
> you to read the book "The Inmates Are Running the Asylum" by Alan
> Cooper. It is not a handbook on how to design interactive systems, but
I wouldn't bother. Whatever insights are contained in this
drizzt wrote:
> Hi all !
>
>
> This is a long post, replying to many previous posts, and adding some parts
> from IRC chats, and some even from discussions with Gimp developers.
Hi,
Long it was, for sure. Sorry but if you don't want the GIMP UI to evolve
and change, don't upgrade to new versions.
Andrew A. Gill a écrit :
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Louis Desjardins wrote:
>>
>> This mostly depends on the RIP that is attached to the printer but
>> really, this doesn?t prove the point of the need of CMYK editing
>> ability to be wrong, does it?
>
> On the contrary.
>
> Just trying to give peop
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Louis Desjardins wrote:
>
> This mostly depends on the RIP that is attached to the printer but really,
> this doesn?t prove the point of the need of CMYK editing ability to be wrong,
> does it?
On the contrary.
Just trying to give people all the facts. I find it helps to
Andrew A. Gill a écrit :
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Louis Desjardins wrote:
>>
>> To this point I don?t believe it?s that important to start figuring out
>> whether the case is as good an example as it possibly can. I guess we
>> are not at all trying to make the trial of the use of CMYK in the
>> prin
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Louis Desjardins wrote:
>
> To this point I don?t believe it?s that important to start figuring out
> whether the case is as good an example as it possibly can. I guess we
> are not at all trying to make the trial of the use of CMYK in the
> printing industry! (Now, that would
Guillermo Espertino a écrit :
> Even though I agree that most of the CMYK cases mentioned use CMYK
> almost as spot colors, I can think of a very common usage scenario in
> Graphic Design where you need to be able to edit CMYK directly:
>
> Corporate colors.
> Most frequently Pantones. Brands have
yahvuu wrote:
> Chris Mohler schrieb:
>> I can express any CMYK color in RGB - but not the other way around.
>
> now i'm confused :)
>
> Is CMYK->RGB->CMYK roundtrip safe?
It depends on the gamuts of the respective colorspaces.
These are all device dependent colorspaces, so their
gamuts depend o
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Guillermo Espertino wrote:
> Even though I agree that most of the CMYK cases mentioned use CMYK
> almost as spot colors, I can think of a very common usage scenario in
> Graphic Design where you need to be able to edit CMYK directly:
>
> Corporate colors.
> Most frequently Pan
Even though I agree that most of the CMYK cases mentioned use CMYK
almost as spot colors, I can think of a very common usage scenario in
Graphic Design where you need to be able to edit CMYK directly:
Corporate colors.
Most frequently Pantones. Brands have their corporate colors and ask
designers
Hi Peter,
some ideas from a typical photo workflow:
perspective correction- select some prominent lines from the image
and "get them straight"
alignment of horizon line - in cooperation with an automated guess?
crop & rotate, set- virtual photography ala
On Thu, 26 Mar 2009, Graeme Gill wrote:
>
> As I understand it, Scribus is not a pixel editor, it is
> a page layout package, rather a different thing altogether.
For the record, Scribus does allow pixel editing.
When you right click on an image and select Edit Image, it opens
the image in GIMP.
Peter:
Of course, you could also use the interface to choose between three
cubic methods, which makes a lot of sense within GEGL (the "jaggy" one
would be lagrangian bicubic).
Nicolas Robidoux
Universite Laurentienne
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Peter:
Here is a suggestion UI project for training purpose:
Right now, in GEGL, you have access to the whole 2-parameter family of
cubic splines for resampling, as well as bilinear.
Pick three representatives, say Catmull-Rom ("lots" of halo),
smoothing B-Splines ("lots" of blur) and bilinear
peter sikking wrote:
> Now what about that prepress. I think it is fairly safe to say
> that scribus' vision is to be prepress-king and GIMP should watch
> it not to want to overlap too much in that department. Everything
> in the above examples that reeks of newspaper, publications or
> multiple
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Andrew A. Gill wrote:
Agreed. I don't think anyone here is looking for a Photoshop clone (I know
that I personally hate PS for a variety of reasons), but we do realize that
it has to compete with Photoshop, and
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, peter sikking wrote:
> Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>
>> There was a somewhat heated discussion of this thread at
>> linuxgraphics.ru forum and here are several examples from people who
>> deal with prepress work on daily basis:
>>
>> 1. Client brings an image for poster in CMY
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:52 AM, drizzt wrote:
>> A tool should work out of box and help getting the work done right away.
> But if each time you take your tool out of the box, it's behavior has
> changed, you cannot use it. So maybe you are creating a thing new users can
> play with, but please
Hi all !
This is a long post, replying to many previous posts, and adding some parts
from IRC chats, and some even from discussions with Gimp developers.
Some may think this is rubbish, others that I'm no one to say so, but as a
matter of fact, I don't care.
read ahead and have fun using GIMP,
Alexandre Prokoudine a écrit :
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>
>> 1. Client brings an image for poster in CMYK which needs color
>> correction. Urgent work, not time to ask him to redo it. Double color
>> space conversion is out of question. So he had to use Photos
hi all,
at the end of may I am again teaching an interaction design
course at the FH Voralrberg (university of applied sciences).
here is the plan: the course is in the form of a design project,
and the students work in small teams on a UI concept for GIMP.
all (4) teams work on the same design p
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Martin Nordholts wrote:
> Both RGB and CMYK are device dependent color spaces and without any kind
> or further specification one can not say how the former relates to the
> latter
That goes without saying :)
Alexandre
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Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> It's not :) And I believe that a small portion of CMYK colors is out
> of gamut for RGB too , by the way :)
>
Both RGB and CMYK are device dependent color spaces and without any kind
or further specification one can not say how the former relates to the
latter
You
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:44 PM, yahvuu wrote:
>> I can express any CMYK color in RGB - but not the other way around.
>
> now i'm confused :)
>
> Is CMYK->RGB->CMYK roundtrip safe?
It's not :) And I believe that a small portion of CMYK colors is out
of gamut for RGB too , by the way :)
Alexandr
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:44 PM, yahvuu wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Chris Mohler schrieb:
>> I can express any CMYK color in RGB - but not the other way around.
>
> now i'm confused :)
>
> Is CMYK->RGB->CMYK roundtrip safe?
Not really. What I was trying to say is that I send RGB proof images
to my customer
Hi,
Chris Mohler schrieb:
> I can express any CMYK color in RGB - but not the other way around.
now i'm confused :)
Is CMYK->RGB->CMYK roundtrip safe?
>From past examples (trapping, rich black) i've come to think that
hand-optimized CMYK separations can't be transformed back
to RGB losslessly (q
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:58 PM, peter sikking wrote:
> If you had carefully read what I am offering to design for
> GIMP you will see that it is a lot more than an export.
>
> I am talking about covering the main image window with a
> "projection screen" in this case for cmyk, whenever one wants,
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, peter sikking wrote:
>> Mix master tape (in rgb) and then cut
>> the lp (in cmyk).
>
> I can express any CMYK color in RGB - but not the other way around.
> Therefore, I "master" all of my print jobs in CMYK,
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:58 PM, peter sikking wrote:
> Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>> Which means in fact that the team does not wish to meet *real*
>> prepress users needs on product vision level.
>
>
> I would like to have this answered answer first: why can't they
> do it with scribus? are we
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:44 PM, peter sikking wrote:
> Mix master tape (in rgb) and then cut
> the lp (in cmyk).
I can express any CMYK color in RGB - but not the other way around.
Therefore, I "master" all of my print jobs in CMYK, and if I "cut"
something like a preview for a client then I us
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:44 PM, peter sikking wrote:
>> There is choice in there, and the user community cannot demand
>> that GIMP does certain things.
>
> It's quite an interesting point, because you are talking about
> demanding, whereas I'm talking about meeting
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 8:44 PM, peter sikking wrote:
> There is choice in there, and the user community cannot demand
> that GIMP does certain things.
It's quite an interesting point, because you are talking about
demanding, whereas I'm talking about meeting users needs :) And you do
understand
Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> There was a somewhat heated discussion of this thread at
> linuxgraphics.ru forum and here are several examples from people who
> deal with prepress work on daily basis:
>
> 1. Client brings an image for poster in CMYK which needs color
> correction. Urgent work, not
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Andrew A. Gill wrote:
> Agreed. I don't think anyone here is looking for a Photoshop clone (I know
> that I personally hate PS for a variety of reasons), but we do realize that
> it has to compete with Photoshop, and not addressing the issues of large
> sections o
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Vincent Lordier wrote:
>
> This is valuable input you're giving actually
> How about collecting these use cases for prepress in the wiki here
> http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/ ?
>
> (like the UI team did with brainstorm here :
> http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ )
>
> You could p
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>
> 2. You have a newspaper where first page should have a two-color
> photo: black (C=0%M=0%Y=0%K<=100%) and blue (C<=100%M=0%Y=0%K=0%).
> separate+ however separates black to 4 channels.
The Christian Science Monitor does this pretty frequently, a
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> 1. Client brings an image for poster in CMYK which needs color
> correction. Urgent work, not time to ask him to redo it. Double color
> space conversion is out of question. So he had to use Photoshop from
> VMWare.
>
> 2. You have a n
Hello happy CMYK warriors,
This is valuable input you're giving actually
How about collecting these use cases for prepress in the wiki here
http://wiki.gimp.org/gimp/ ?
(like the UI team did with brainstorm here :
http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/ )
You could put it using these kind of chapte
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 11:17 PM, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, 2009-03-23 at 21:02 +0100, Martin Nordholts wrote:
>
>> Yes, processing shall as long as possible be done in RGB, but at some
>> point you need to convert to the CMYK color space and a high-end photo
>> app should support editi
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