Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 11 Nov, Andrew Kieschnick wrote: > Hmm, that sure as hell looks like an LGPL to me. I seriously doubt > your copy of gimp is different than mine... LGPL stands for "Lesser GNU Public Licence". Now do me a favour and count the word lesser in this COPYING file... Then do this again for the

Re: the ultimate solution to the i18n problem...

1999-11-11 Thread Jon A. Cruz
Sven Neumann wrote: > Eduardo Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What about a central site, where developers send their files to be > > translated, and a group of volunteers translates them to as many > > languajes as they can? Perhaps there could even exists a database of > > common expresio

Re: the ultimate solution to the i18n problem...

1999-11-11 Thread Tuomas Kuosmanen
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 10:23:15PM +0100, Eduardo Perez wrote: > Marc Lehmann wrote: > > > > demand a net-connection and call babelfish for untranslated items ;) > > > > (runs...) > > What about a central site, where developers send their files to be > translated, and a group of volunteers tran

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Manish Singh
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:20:27PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist wrote: > Marc Lehmann writes: > > On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 10:47:48PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It is possible that I decided to use the GPL header because the code > > > in gimpenv.c was partly moved fro

Re: Clean up and Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
> > Here is my list of minor things to clean up and make better (Without > breaking the freeze). First the list and then the discussion below it. > YES!! I do especially like the new menu hierarchy you suggested. Any volunteers for this job? > > PS: Sven I thin

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread David Odin
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 09:03:46PM +0100, Marc Lehmann wrote: > On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 02:50:18AM +0100, David Odin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't think I'm alone, since nobody complain about gimp perl any more > > these days. > > They don't? Then why do I get so many complaints? ;) >

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, > >>Why not allow the user to choose his/her browser of choice ? > >>With Netscape, Mozilla, the Gnome Help Browser, kfm, or even > >>Lynx in an xterm as possible choices, I don't see any problem with this... > > > >So Gimp help should be a set of HTML files and a small exec to launch the > >

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
> > Except... gimpenv.c... > Well, I have looked at it know, but it should be fairly easy to make a cleanroom implementation of the functionality in that file only by looking at the code that calls it. The header is under the LGPL. Would that count? ;-) Salut, Sven

Re: the ultimate solution to the i18n problem...

1999-11-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Eduardo Perez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about a central site, where developers send their files to be > translated, and a group of volunteers translates them to as many > languajes as they can? Perhaps there could even exists a database of > common expresions ('Yes', 'Save as', 'Are you s

Solution for the i18n problem?

1999-11-11 Thread thaberland
Hi, following the thread about the i18n problem I can't find a solution, or did I miss it?? I have the same problem, very most menu's contains the german word "Datei". I tried it on a fresh Mandrake 6.1 installation, also after updating to the current GNOME release (1.0.53-2, installed all RPMs

Re: Tile Cache Size

1999-11-11 Thread Eduardo Perez
"Ewald R. de Wit" wrote: > > Anyway, today I went over the Gimp sources and noticed how complicated > the tile architecture makes things and I couldn't help wondering why > the heck it was put in. All it seems to do is to give you an order of > magnitude slower speed when dealing with large image

Re: the ultimate solution to the i18n problem...

1999-11-11 Thread Eduardo Perez
Marc Lehmann wrote: > > demand a net-connection and call babelfish for untranslated items ;) > > (runs...) What about a central site, where developers send their files to be translated, and a group of volunteers translates them to as many languajes as they can? Perhaps there could even exists a

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 11:20:27PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think gimpenv.c is in any way unique in this sense, probably > many of the other files in libgimp also contain code snippets that > have originally been in some file in the GIMP proper. It, of course, dep

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Marc Lehmann writes: > On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 10:47:48PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It is possible that I decided to use the GPL header because the code > > in gimpenv.c was partly moved from gimp proper, which is GPL. > > That's bad, so libgimp in cvs is actu

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 10:47:48PM +0200, Tor Lillqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is possible that I decided to use the GPL header because the code > in gimpenv.c was partly moved from gimp proper, which is GPL. That's bad, so libgimp in cvs is actually GPL ;-> My dreams come true ;) --

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist
Marc Lehmann writes: > There certainly is the COPYING file and the files all refer to the library > GPL, I think that is clear enough! > Except... gimpenv.c... Hmm. It was I who originally created that file, and I don't remember if putting in a header referring to the GPL (and not the LGPL) w

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Marc Lehmann wrote: > There certainly is the COPYING file and the files all refer to the library > GPL, I think that is clear enough! > > Except... gimpenv.c... > > This is a serious problem. I'm not sure wether one can easily change > the header in the file to refer to th

Re: Plugins

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 08:34:59PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Got me here, but since I don't exactly know what the bug is I can > hardly explain it. I just know the symptoms and you do, too... You told me that, but I neither buy your explanation nor do I experience this bug myself. >

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 08:34:32PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Serious: If it'd be LPGLed it would have had such a header in every > source file and in the COPYING file which isn't the case... There certainly is the COPYING file and the files all refer to the library GPL, I think that is

Re: Re: Tile Cache Size

1999-11-11 Thread Marc Lehmann
On Thu, Nov 11, 1999 at 12:56:58PM +0100, "Ewald R. de Wit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well the algorithm involved is a simple 256 byte lookup table (or 3 of > them for each of the RGB channels). There is not much one can screw up > about it, both performance and precision wise. The only differ

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Andrew Kieschnick
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On 9 Nov, Andrew Kieschnick wrote: > > > libgimp and libgimpui are LGPLed, so that isn't a problem. > > Really? Not mine > Serious: If it'd be LPGLed it would have had such a header in every > source file and in the COPYING file which isn'

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 10 Nov, Raphael Quinet wrote: > So please stop complaining about the help system, because that could > backfire on Gimp-Perl quickly... No flamewars, please. Let us concentrate on our work instead of pushing our energies in a thread which as useless as Win 3.11 ... :)) -- Servus,

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 10 Nov, Kevin Cozens wrote: > Reading the discussions re: the help system has made me think I > understand why compiling GIMP always broke at a point where it needed > a GtkXmhtml header file. I use a RedHat system without Gnome installed > and I'm beginning to understand that GtkXmhtml is a G

Re: Plugins

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 10 Nov, Marc Lehmann wrote: > That all plug-ins that are part of the distribution should have > corretc translated menu entries is (for me) obvious. The problem is > new (third-party) plug-ins. These problems are solvable by a consistent way to handle the translations. Im working on these b

Re: Plugins

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 8 Nov, Marc Lehmann wrote: >> Hint: It's the way menues are handled by Gtk... > And if this leads to segfaults it is surely a bug in gkt+? No, really, > I am _simply_ interested in how a call to gettext can result in a > "legal" segfault. The most likely way to cause a segfault is to wri

Re: GIMP Plug-ins for other Apps? - LGPL for some GIMP modules?

1999-11-11 Thread Daniel . Egger
On 9 Nov, Andrew Kieschnick wrote: > libgimp and libgimpui are LGPLed, so that isn't a problem. Really? Not mine Serious: If it'd be LPGLed it would have had such a header in every source file and in the COPYING file which isn't the case... -- Servus, Daniel

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Kevin Cozens
>>Why not allow the user to choose his/her browser of choice ? >>With Netscape, Mozilla, the Gnome Help Browser, kfm, or even >>Lynx in an xterm as possible choices, I don't see any problem with this... > >So Gimp help should be a set of HTML files and a small exec to launch the >preferred browser

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Andrew Kieschnick
On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Tristan Tarrant wrote: > If you want small there is also Gzilla which could be resurrected. Gzilla has already been resurrected. It changed names in the process, and is known as armadillo now. It still lives at http://www.gzilla.com/ though. later, Andrew Kieschnick

Re: Help System

1999-11-11 Thread Tristan Tarrant
> Well thats why we want to have only GtkXmHTML installed and only if it's > needed. GtkXmHTML is on its way out. Check out the gtkhtml module in CVS. The only dependency on Gnome is for the test application and the bonobo component. Otherwise it looks like plain GTK+ stuff to me. > It's not wis