[Gimp-user] Feathered selections
I walked a lady through GIMP on Windows 2000 today, she was delighted with it. A feature that she particularly liked was being able to select things (wand, oval, block, whatever) then feather the selection so whatever you did had no sharp edges. She also liked being able to select with the wand, then tidy up using Ctrl the other selection tools before actually doing anything with the selection. This visual interaction with the selection tools particularly struck me when she noticed that a rectangular selection grew rounded corners when it was feathered. So I started wondering: is it feasible to do something like make the selection's borders gently more fuzzy or translucent when a selection is feathered? That would just about make her day. Her approach to many things is artistic a little impulsive, so I think that makes her reactions a good benchmark of non-technical users in general. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Feathered selections
On Thursday 15 November 2007 04:29:00 Akkana Peck wrote: But there's a solution for your friend in the meantime: the Quickmask. Click on that inconspicuous little square down at the bottom left of the image window, in the corner between the scrollbar and the ruler. That switches to Quickmask mode, in which anything that is *not* selected is red. You can see fuzzy borders really well with the quickmask Thanks, good idea. I'll give Vickey a few days to play with her existing toys, then drop that on her. She likes painting doing similar artwork, so I suspect that QM mode will appeal to her instincts. She talks to a fair few people (in person by email) her husband Ronn is fairly well known here, too, so Wilbur's fame should get around quite handily. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] dial-up (was: upgrade to Leopard)
On Saturday 03 November 2007 22:31:44 carol irvin wrote: how many people here are on dialup? Me. Mostly due to lack of alternatives. If either the Government or an ISP or both gets an act, we can eventually get a 512kb satellite connection for about AUD$45 a month. Plus ghasp dollars per gigabyte. None of the mobile (cellular) based data networks are functional here (town in Western side of Tasmania) (very few even work for telephones), the sole alternative (called OneWire) is wireless within town (to fixed-point Yagi antennae) but sometimes works out slower than dialup. There is no DSLAM in the exchange, nor even any promises from telcos about one. So no ADSL. There is no real wireless. This is quite a change from the city of Perth, Western Australia, where barebone ADSL can be had from AUD$15 a month, real (ADSL2, 6 Mb vs 800 kb, 10GB/month) from AUD$49 a month, wireless (most areas, about AUD$90 a month), mobile (everywhere, from about AUD$120 a month for a useful plan), etc. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.4.0; available for Mac also?
On Tuesday 30 October 2007 02:26:29 John Culleton wrote: All that was released today was the source code. Binaries for various platforms will come later. I use 2.4rc3 on my slackware Linux system. Is this the same as the final release? It seems to work fine. I tried 2.4-for-real for Win32 the other day nothing leaped out to say I'm different! when compared with 2.4-rc3 on Ubuntu Gutsy -- but that doesn't necessarily say very much about changes under the hood, which may be extensive. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.4 released
On Friday 26 October 2007 19:03:36 Jeffery Small wrote: Does the new release include up-to-date documentation on new features like the healing and perspective cloning tools? Can't recall having seen the docs but these features did do stuff when I whipped the Win32 edition into life this afternoon (hello from GMT+10+DST). Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] colour to black and white
On Thursday 25 October 2007 23:18:04 norman wrote: I would like to be able to produce a black and white negative image from an ordinary colour image. I'm lazy, so desaturating on luminosity works well enough for me. If I wanted to alter the colours, I'd put the image through a colour-map first. For example, I have a shot of an evolutionary sequence which runs from a little ape-like fellow through Magnon to a normal human standing tall, who then picks up a rake starts to bend down again as a result, so on through a jackhammer until he's sitting worshipfully at a computer keyboard. I boosted the blue (Colours, Curves) a fair bit, then desaturated that for a slightly sharper-looking monochrome image. Not sure why artists do this, but the modern-man figures were all Caucasian, boosting the blue up fairly strongly, emphasised the contrast between these fellows everyone else up to Mr Cro-Magnon, inclusive, who all had fairly mid-range colours.. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Saturday 20 October 2007 18:34:49 norman wrote: I have just looked at the Ubuntu 7.10 'try it first disc' and Gimp 2.4rc3 was on it. I've finally got that installed on Feisty. I started too soon, as Richard Hirner (thanks!) sent me a link for a native Feisty package after I'd got all of the strings loose. It's taken 49 package updates the Feisty kinda thinks it's Gutsy at the moment. Good-night from GMT+11 (GMT+10+DST), I'll let you know soonish how it actually runs. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Saturday 20 October 2007 20:59:15 Leon Brooks GIMP wrote: It's taken 49 package updates Correction, 79 packages including a couple of _games_ I had to update to track changes in font-names used in a GIMP dependency. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Saturday 20 October 2007 20:59:15 Leon Brooks GIMP wrote: I'll let you know soonish how it actually runs. This RAM-limited Celeron 566 makes it run kind of slowly, but it does run reliably some of the newer tools are enjoyable. A friend from the other side of Oz will be mailing me a set of Gutsy CDs a DVD, so I'll use those to update all of the way when they arrive. Wouldn't surprise me to see Ubuntu put real 2.4 up as an update to replace ~rc3 shortly. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 12:08:53 Chris Mohler wrote: with the ubuntu beta (gutsy) OBTW, the package list is here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/graphics/gimp I'm fetching from Pacific, which happens to be in Sydney, near where this dialup has its POP (although I'm actually in western Tasmania). The wonders of the Internet would be happy to fetch it from Belgium or Canada instead, but if dialup accounts cared, that would be free (no quota) traffic fast (not that Mr 5.2kB/s Modem cares about that, either :-). Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 12:08:53 Chris Mohler wrote: I've been messing with the ubuntu beta (gutsy) and it installed RC3 from the start. It seems to have enough packages to keep Feisty happy, is even small enough to download over dialup in an afternoon. I'll dpkg this shortly. I might get pitched off-line shortly by SWMBO, but if not, I'll let you know how it went. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 12:08:53 Chris Mohler wrote: On 10/18/07, Leon Brooks GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, if anyone sees a real 2.4 DEB or RPM source, please drop a message on this list saying so. Both I my sister-in-law photographer would like to graduate from earlyish 2.3s, I;ve been messing with the ubuntu beta (gutsy) and it installed RC3 from the start. Maybe you can find the DEBs in their repositories? Hmm. Fires up an Ubuntu Feisty desktop... Only 2.2.13 in the optional collection, let's see... Festy Fawn... Gutsy Gibbon... Horrible... er, what sort of interesting animals begin with an H? Here is Tamania we have Devils (done), Quolls (way future), Wombats (future) and a kind of Wallaby called a Pademelon (future). Hmmm... (-: OK, Gutsy has 2.4.0~rc3 so I might give that a whirl (Pacific Internet's mirror seems to have a copy). I wonder what other dependencies I'll have to drag down -- other than an entire distro, which would be more than a little tedious over this dialup link. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] 2.4 ( DEBs/RPMs)
On Friday 19 October 2007 05:29:49 kerry wrote: Please could you tell me where I can download the 2.4 for windows in complete package AFAIK, nowhere. Wait a few days, at worst a week or two for 2.4 to be fully released the Windows packagers to catch up. BTW, if anyone sees a real 2.4 DEB or RPM source, please drop a message on this list saying so. Both I my sister-in-law photographer would like to graduate from earlyish 2.3s, Oh, she also has a Windows laptop, so she'd also be interested in 2.4 for Win32 for those hard days. (=: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional
On Thursday 11 October 2007 00:50:09 J Figueroa G - Gmail wrote: (I dont speak and read english so much) Don't worry about it (No worries! here in Australia). I'd just be guessing if I _chose_ your native language as Spanish or something like it (Casablanca?), would have to patiently spend time (days or weeks) learning to _speak_ the language in order to say anything more useful than hello. If it's Latin-based I could possibly blunder my way through most of it, but it would be entertaining for you (or any other onlooker) to watch me try that. My knowledge outside of English is almost zero. I was born in Canada of Australian parents, promptly (2 years) imported back into Australia again. I have friends from various parts of Africa, Peru, Laos, Brazil, France, Italy, Poland etc but that hasn't been enough to prompt me to learn another language. Oh, except for C, ForTran, BASIC, PHP, Pascal, Modula2, assembler... Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: national park pictures (art psychiatry)
On Friday 05 October 2007 04:21:32 carol irvin wrote: I've always suspected that this is because art is my escape from reality. Ah, well, at least you know what that is... that an Open Free escape is much safer more useful than one of those complex psycho-whatsisnames. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] photo resolution
On Friday 05 October 2007 00:03:14 David Heino wrote: is 72 dpi still sufficient across all possible monitors--a little lap top screen to a large screen HDTV? There ain't no simple answer to that. A simple laptop screen starts at about 1024x768 pixels (dots) so a 72DPI picture to cover that entirely would be about 14 inches by 11 inches. You don't want to cover that much in a web page, because there will be some actual page surrounding the image, plus web browser window frames etc. My wife's 19-inch CRT is set to about 2000x1500 pixels, so the answer for that is about double. Anyone using even larger monitors will be more than accustomed to stuff not fitting. One possible/partial answer is to use some JavaScript to read the window's dimensions alter the width height parameters of the IMG tag to scale whatever you provide, so it fits. To get really fancy, provide several different images have your JS select the closest fit scale that. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP learning sites
On Friday 05 October 2007 00:22:59 carol irvin wrote: http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Gimp/OptimisingImagesForWeb? topic=WebHome http://gimp.org/tutorials/ http://meetthegimp.org/?cat=8 http://www.gimpguru.org/ http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/ http://gug.sunsite.dk/ All mookbarked now, thank you! (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bit-depth Processing
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 04:35:36 David Southwell wrote: IMHO photoshop is NOT a tool designed for the average user. Average can mean typical it can mean numbers (as in mean/mode/median), either way, PS fits the bill. So if you want to struggle with an average creativity ceiling suffer average problems, you would choose CS. A lot of people (can't offer you numbers on this one, have to settle for many) regard average as the only reasonable alternative to failure. They won't necessarily _say_ this when discussing it, but that's how it operates in Real Life. The essence of this approach is that it makes them allergic to true success to attributes like innovation. When marketing to these users (or their bosses) I suspect you'd have to figure out what they're hedging against in specifying PS, then show how GIMP clearly offers them better results _in_their_terms_. This is doubly hard because opening discussion on the very topic which subtly terrifies them simply raises internal horror shuts down communication. So you have to be subtle about it, probably approach it under the guise of the fabulous new gadget I found which seems to solve X, Y Z rather than this PS replacement that we're going to bet the boat on. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] carol's art work over on YouTube, Picasa web albums Cafe Press
On Sunday 30 September 2007 03:26:33 carol irvin wrote: I don't see any reason why I shouldn't be able to do this completely in Gimp if I set my mind to it. I don't collaborate with any other artists so it doesn't matter what I use. More than that, you have people you can actually ask to *change* what GIMP does -- they might, whereas PS is nailed in stone (or really, nailed to the whims aspirations of their developers' managers) so won't listen if you're less than Ford, or Boeing, or NASA, or Brazil. So by all means contribute to Wilbur's breeding, if you see a facility which might be useful but doesn't exist yet. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as , save a copy , save, open
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:10:46 Sven Neumann wrote: The application can already add bookmarks and GIMP 2.4 already makes use of this feature in some places. I am not convinced though that this would be a good way to solve the problems brought up the user who started the thread. I am imagining a short drop-down history of places one last saved things, preferably with a shortcut key (Ins? Who knows?) which will instantly recall the most recent one. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
On Sunday 30 September 2007 20:06:09 Sven Neumann wrote: We are listening to our users. That's why we have this mailing- list and actually read about the problems and needs of our users. Round of applause, that sentiment. (-: Now I need to organise my own life better so I can make space to actually contribute code, rather than just words. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs art (was: Photoshop UI)
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:48:09 you wrote: Each person (who wanted to participate) would take an art step phase further using GIMP until we had a completed art work. For example, let's say you'd start it using a brush. Then maybe I'd go into what you did with an eraser and make it something else. Then maybe [self] would use both versions as layers and run the two through the modes (multiple, burn, dodge, etc.,) until finding his own versionand so on down the line. each person would explain what he did in GIMP to get to his phase as well. Since my skills as an artist are kind of regrettable, I very much like this idea would like to second it, or whatever. Doing something by degrees makes it a lot less daunting, if I managed to muck something up, it would be my own copy only, (a feature difficult to replicate with physical artworks :-). Besides that, mucking something up is a lesson in itself, both to warn others because someone else might be able to imagine a way to make the original idea work. I think dumping the results on a Wiki would be helpful, also, both to make fetching a starting-point relatively simple, to keep a kind of history of what various people have tried. The history is also useful for both inspiration correction. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] remember last location for save as, save a copy , save, open
On Monday 01 October 2007 08:56:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: author has recently added a note that its not Vista- ready (and may or may not ever be :-( ). That alone is sufficient to keep me on WinXp as long as possible. Or to inspire you to make a really robust portable GTK version which *will* run on Vista. At least under GIMP if nowhere else. (-: An advantage to making it fly under GTK is that it then becomes reasonable to use the features with other apps, naturally including file managers. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] carol the floating selection (now working in layers!)
On Monday 01 October 2007 13:57:40 carol irvin wrote: then i altered that version with a filter. and, drum roll please, made them into two layers! Tah-daaah! Round of applause! (-: Perhaps GIMP can develop some new modes so that future versions of plugins etc can *optionally* make a new layer as they go? Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] floating selection
On Sunday 30 September 2007 01:31:44 carol irvin wrote: I suspect I need to do something every time I do a paste that converts the paste into its own layer. Yah, New Layer. I'm sure that there's a keyboard shortcut for that, but the GIMP (along with a few other apps) is broken on this antique Celeron so I can't easily find out what it is. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
On Saturday 29 September 2007 01:51:59 carol irvin wrote: I am switching myself to open source programs whenever I can to save money. It is no more complex than that. Hi Carol! Um, I convert people to OpenOffice who basically don't give a hoot about the $$$. They adopt it because: * They don't need to get permission to spend $$$ (OK, so that's partially $$$ oriented); * OOo can often recover broken or virussed MSO documents (-: the delight registering on faces as the impossible transpires a couple of days or weeks of work is instantly recovered is immeasurable :-); * It spits out PDFs without any extra software; * It runs on anything (so someone can use a Mac at home vs WinXP at work still face the same software -- oh, ($$$) not have to pay for it twice); * Some users much prefer OOo's stylesheets, or template management, or whatever even down to one lad who prefers the view-nonprinting-characters mode; * One clear-cut preferral for the better HTML editing facilities; * They can successfully read write old MSO ( OOo) docs; * It's better at importing Plain Text, CSVs or InsertRandomFormat documents; * Variety of features down to Insert Special Character working better, or simply having Insert Formatting Mark, or sundry other added features; * so on. In short, you may be doing yourself out of the better parts of the deal by simply sticking to financial reasons, essentially ignoring the others. It's a bit like reading scripture for doctrinal reasons only: you miss out on the really juicy bits. (-: I have Linux users who use the penguin because: * It's free (yay, most of them don't know or care); * They can read email, browse the web, word process; * There are no viruses (well, there actually are a few, but zero of my users have ever tripped over one, it's kind of heart- warming to have your users tell of other systems blitzing into the ground in spiralling clouds of greasy smoke while they continue their work unabated); * Things don't change by themselves (well... the machines are set to auto-update, so things do eventually change, but what they're talking about is the random config changes transient insanity so typical of MS-Windows machines); * The tools to fix (or alter) almost anything are immediately to hand. In short: cost-sorta/functionality/safety/reliability/flexibility. Cost is one factor of 5, in Real Life(tm) is often irrelevant. GIMP is not *quite* the same, in that compatibility with another app (not always PS) is more often a concern, but in general terms the cases are close enough. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP vs Photoshop UI
On Friday 28 September 2007 01:00:45 George Farris wrote: If you can provide hard data that backs this up with numbers Unfortunately, this is the Real World(tm), rejection can be as simple as it looks too different. However, I would be interested in hard numbers too. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Brazilan Zine about GIMP
On Friday 28 September 2007 02:37:14 Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: Unfortunatelly all articles are in Brazillian Portuguese only. Yeah? I do like it when I'm able to read something in languages other than English. BrazPort is something I could at best blunder my way through, but it usually carries a kind of expressiveness that plaid old English often lacks. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bit-depth Processing
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 10:17:50 jim feldman wrote: Even with it's bit depth shortcoming, I'd still take GIMP's mature tool set over anything OTHER than PS CS2/3 (at a mere $649US) Approximating the $USD-$AUD conversions (http://www.xe.com/ucc/), that's AUD$743, about the cost of a complete system with dual CPU, a couple of GB of RAM, a pair of RAIDed IDE or SATA drives to the tune of about 300GB, a decent 19 flat screen, a graphics tablet a scanner. So you'd have to spend some time convincing me that PS was worth the extra bananas. (-: Oh, that spending the AUD$750 extra on a better camera wouldn't be a more effective investment :-) Oh, yes, PS requires Windows, so the cost doesn't include AUD$231.70 for Vista (Business OEM, or I could shell out AUD$2167 for 2003 Premium R2), or about AUD$130 for an interfering virus scanner (or about AUD$500 for one that works). Of course, I'd use OpenOffice for office software (save AUD$332 on MS-Office Small Business OEM), Firefox for a browser, ThunderBird for email so on, but the real cost is still AUD$1105 plus risks. I could go for a *pair* of decent 19 flatscreens bump the drive sizes up to 500GB. So tell me again why I'd jilt Wilbur for PhotoShock rather than wait for GIMP 2.5 releases around close of trade this year? (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Fwd: Opening pictures taken with an Olympus E-510 fails every time
On Wednesday 26 September 2007 02:34:13 Johnny Rosenberg wrote: Do I still have the old version? [...] Do I have both versions so I need to make GIMP use the new one rather than the old one? Maybe. Try ldd $(which gimp) see what it says. On this system (updated Ubuntu Fiesty) gimp is in /usr/bin/ the libraries for it are all in /usr/lib/ (but I don't see any libexif listed). To see what libexifs you have, try ls -l /usr/lib/*exif* because the compilation may have defaulted to somewhere like /usr/local/lib/ or /opt/lib/ or something else which may not be in your libraries list. Look in /etc/ld.so.conf to see which directories ldconfig searches for libraries. If the configure did use some odd directory, try the configure line as this, then re-do the makes: ./configure --prefix=/usr As root (sudo'ed) try an ldconfig) see if that changes the above ldd report. Uhh... this is probably a mite too complex for some of y'all but it may help Johnny can be safely ignored by others. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Bit-depth Processing
On Thursday 27 September 2007 03:49:25 Sven Neumann wrote: Do you even know what you are talking about? I don't think so. Oh. Someone seems to have put Sven into Happy Mode. (-: I must say that as a programming novitiate, sorta, I do find the open to- fro-ing on lists like GIMP's very informative. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] photography
On Thursday 13 September 2007 17:58:02 norman wrote: This is very much due to a video course I am following on www.meetthegimp.org which, in my opinion, is a great place to start for the amateur photographer. Hello from sunny Tullah, Tasmania, where dialup is the peak of modern Internet connectivity. Videos are not a real option here, but OTOH there is plenty to point a camera at. Here are some grotty throwaway shots from a Fuji camera: http://tullah.fit2.bur.st/ I've heard good things said about the Canon 40D (a DSLR) by people who actually use the suckers for a living. Still ghasp dollars an item, but fairly good value for the ghasp. It's like a cut-down version of the 5D, which is an excellent little gadget. Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] photography
On Thursday 13 September 2007 20:25:33 you wrote: To set in turn of cost: Sony Alpha 700 (1400 USD), Canon 40D (1500+ USD), Nikon D300 (1800+ USD). Thaks for that nice, simple list. I got good value out of a Sony DSC-F707 until the day I ran it over with my 2t van. Several of the pro photographers I know have longed for a Canon 5D but not been able to afford one; they all seem to think well of the 40D, after studying it, Not perfect, but close enough, sort of thing. (-: Cheers; Leon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
