[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
George Farris wrote: On Thu, 2006-02-03 at 12:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the new GTK open/save dialogue has been subject to many critics, in Gnome and in Gimp. Gimp developers have tried to implement fixes for most of the annoyances. But the dialogue is still quite

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what I can gather of reading the mailing-lists for users, developers and windows port, while the gimp own part of the interface as much improved in the last years (preview for plugin / docks / window management / image window top-menu), the

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1- the absence of the keyboard navigation with tab completion that was in 1.x. This can be actually activated by CTRL-L but no-one can actually find this shortcut naturally, so everyone will at least complain once about it. Also, the file name

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From what I can gather of reading the mailing-lists for users, developers and windows port, while the gimp own part of the interface as much improved in the last years (preview for plugin / docks / window management / image

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] From what I can gather of reading the mailing-lists for users, developers and windows port, while the gimp own part of the interface as much improved in the last years (preview for plugin / docks / window management / image window top-menu), the

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Michael Schumacher wrote: Von: Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] From what I can gather of reading the mailing-lists for users, developers and windows port, while the gimp own part of the interface as much improved in the last years (preview for plugin / docks / window management / image

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Jakub Steiner
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 14:36 +0100, Olivier Ripoll wrote: a) the need of an obscure key combo to access the file completion navigation. There is no key combo to access file completion. Just start typing. b) the fact that the folder navigation (and perhaps) the file type

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Complaints about the dialogue pop up every single month on the 3 mailing lists I have mentioned. You can refuse to read them, but then do not accuse people who read them to mention them when specifically ask to in a thread. The only point that I

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Jakub Steiner wrote: On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 14:36 +0100, Olivier Ripoll wrote: a) the need of an obscure key combo to access the file completion navigation. There is no key combo to access file completion. Just start typing. Indeed. You are right. This is recent, isn't it ? What is the use

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, [...] The other problem is that this is the wrong list to discuss file chooser issues. Sven This was not my aim. I wanted to suggest to Paul Bloch, that in his article about usability for OsNews, he mentions the fact that the UI of Gimp has improved from the 1.x

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Schumacher
Von: Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] I disagree with your interpretation of my messages. :) Please keep in mind the reason for my messages: One person asked for points he could discuss/investigate for an article about the UI. I suggested to show the improvements for previous version.

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed. You are right. This is recent, isn't it? No, this has been the case starting with the very first version of the file chooser. And I keep pointing people to it over and over again. However, there is no visual hint that typing the filename

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sure. It would be welcome that the select file type and browse for other folders be opened by default. Or that they would remember they last state or that this option could be selected by the user. When do you need to use

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Michael Schumacher wrote: Unfortunately you excluded the HIG issue in your reply. As you point out, this is most likely becoming the source for an article about the GIMP GUI. Should it then be that easy to get to a totally different interpretation of your message? I doubt that someone who

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And why are the dialogues for icm/icc profile selection (unstable gimp) and folders in the preferences using a different file selector (no file type drop-down, different window sizes) ? Sure it could be made more consistent. This is so silly. Why

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Olivier Ripoll
Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Olivier Ripoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And why are the dialogues for icm/icc profile selection (unstable gimp) and folders in the preferences using a different file selector (no file type drop-down, different window sizes) ? Sure it could be made more consistent.

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest - Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread George Farris
On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 06:16 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. You are right. This is recent, isn't it ? What is the use of CTRL-L now ? However, there is no visual hint that typing the filename will do something. Having the text entry field would make it clear. Not to put to fine a

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest - Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Matt Gushee
George Farris wrote: Indeed. You are right. This is recent, isn't it ? What is the use of CTRL-L now ? However, there is no visual hint that typing the filename will do something. Having the text entry field would make it clear. Not to put to fine a point on it but almost very application

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest - Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi, Matt Gushee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The GTK team deserves credit for taking up the considerable challenge of making a more usable desktop. But in this case they've blown it: they fixed something that IMHO was not broken, for the sake of the non-technical users they hope to attract to

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest - Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Matt Gushee
Sven Neumann wrote: they fixed something that IMHO was not broken, for the sake of the non-technical users they hope to attract to the GNOME platform, and at the expense of *actual* users who, for the most part, have no trouble typing /path/to/whatever and would like to be able to do so with a

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest - Open Save dialog

2006-03-03 Thread Rob
One other nit-pick: I can't just paste text for the path, I have to start typing first then I can paste. With a text widget, well, the path acts like any other text. Matt Gushee wrote: Sven Neumann wrote: they fixed something that IMHO was not broken, for the sake of the non-technical

[Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-02 Thread George Farris
On Thu, 2006-02-03 at 12:00 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the new GTK open/save dialogue has been subject to many critics, in Gnome and in Gimp. Gimp developers have tried to implement fixes for most of the annoyances. But the dialogue is still quite bothering. However,

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Gimp-user Digest, Open Save dialog

2006-03-02 Thread Rob
Specifically I don't like the ctrl-L thing to type a path in - I frequently use a file browser or shell that I can copy a path from and paste into the open dialog of most applications I use. Until last month I didn't even know about the ctrl-L option. In a more philosophical sense I don't