Re: Here you have, ;o)
hi, if I get one more stupid Windoze PC 'Lookout!-express' user sending viruses my way I'm off this list :-( alan
Re: Wacom USB tablets
hi, I've got a Intellimouse Explorer and Microsoft Natural Keyboard Pro, both are USB. I've got Kernel 2.2.17 (but this works with .15 and .16 ^ too, I've done it) with a 2.4 backport of USB support. Available @ ^ http://www.suse.cz/development/usb-backport/ There are instructions here for setup. Wacom's have their own USB driver within the package. The yes, for you , me and any experience Linux people this isnt difficult, but you take our position for granted. almost everyone else will have to learn things like recompiling kernels , patching sources etc - and i think we can all appreciate that most GIMP users have trouble just with clean GIMP sources! ;-) alan
Re: Low Quality Gifs
hi, As an example http://www.stutchbury.com/images/projects.gif versus a similar image in PNG format at http://www.stutchbury.com/images/projects_d.png . It is on the conversion to 'indexed' that the degradation occurs. Any ideas? sure that your PNG image is also being shrunk down to 8-bit? GIF cannot have multi-transparency mapping. only one alpha level - whereas PNG can have nice blended transparency. in basic, PNG is a better image format alan
RE: Low Quality Gifs
hi, I've a question too: ie4 seem not support png format. In fact, when i've clicked on you png link below, ie4 has asked to me if i want to "save or open the file", and hasn't displayed it. Why ? because, as you said, IE4 doesnt support PNG. there are updates around, but its better to move to IE 5.x if you have to use that sort of thing ;-) ...now, gotta get 1.1.27 working! ;-) alan
Re: Magnify
hi, Remember the old days? Drawing your pixels with Deluxe Paint on the Amiga/Atari? Those programs had (at least the atariversion) a nice little feature, a realtime magnifier. the Amiga version had this too. The current. modern alternatives for the platform e.g. PPaint, Brilliance, Photogenics all have this feature too. Anyone heard of a util like this or know anyone who's capable of coding one? I know that there's a whole lot of people who'd use it. all I know is that Photogenics is coming to Linux. Perhaps GIMP will get the feature soon after :-) alan
Re: Speaking about fonts
hi, They are not zip SFX, they are Win32 code. I had the bad habbot of using "file" command with everything. I recall using DOS pkunzip to unzip a sfx made with WinZIP (*cough*); if I ran the .exe it said, it was created with winzip and that I needed Windows. But good 'ol pkunzip did it under DOS anyway. once again, the Windows 9x installers are not SFX ZIP's. They have a custom wrapper/wraparound and use Win9x compression classes. There are several individuals working on having a 'Win installer' reader program on alternative platforms...until then, yes, Bochs/VMWARE/Wine is the only solution if you are, like me, a Linux-only-on-PC user alan
Re: SPAM :-(
hi, I've got to say that annoying as spam is htting the delete button isn't that hard :) you obviously dont have to download around 500k of spam a day over a modem link ;-) at my work address, spam is just a 'd' key away. at home, my old and trusted account has been picked up by more spammers than "fran-spam the great spamming man of spam" (thanks to me using USENET I guess :-|) and its a consant fight. I guess when we in the UK finally get access to decent telecomms (eg 33Mb/s cable modem or *proper* ADSL (not the junk 'reduced ADSL' that BT are offering) then i wont be bothered. anyway, lets drop this...spam can cause more bandwidth from people complaining than the original message ever did ;-) alan
SPAM :-(
hi, sorry, but if I keep getting SPAM from this mailling list (the last supposedly coming from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" - it only takes 2 seconds to look at the headers and see scam.xcf.berkeley.edu) then I'll have to remove myself from this mailing list :-( alan
Re: SPAM :-(
hi, Yeah, me too. That's the second or third spam I've gotten now. Still, it's not the lists fault... other lists operate on a 'subscriber only' basis and check the from/to flags of posters. alan
Re: can gimp do this?
hi, REQUIREMENTS: 1) ability to generate .gif 2) image quality is very important 3) controllable image sizes 4) controllable font sizes 5) ability to generate black matte around text 6) Text alignment within image should be controlled 7) Helvetica Neue font must be supported 8) Transparent background is a bonus It seems like three major choices are: (1) Gimp (2) libgd (probably, not a candidate anymore as it does not produce .gifs due to Unisys licensing) (3) ImageMagic Given my requirements, what would you, kind people, recommend? I'd also look at pbmtext. I have a script which makes image from text, its mundane and basic, but it does the job I need...you'd have to read the docs to get your own font in there working (but its easy) . The end result is a centered font, of your choice (or own making!) in a GIF file with transparency heres my little script cat motd.txt | pbmtext -font font.pbm motd.pbm ppmtogif motd.pbm motdtemp.gif giftrans -t "#ff" motdtemp.gif motd.gif converts the message of the day on the main server into a GIF image which then is displayed on all Linux boxes on their kdm/gdm login window. alan
Re: saving gifs
hi, I know I saw a thread on this earlier today but I seem to have deleted it... My intern has a helix-code load of gimp 1.1.24. He tries to save gifs and gets "unknown file type" errors. I'm not sure if he's missing a library or if gimp no longer supports gifs due to the Unysis patent issues. If someone could enlighten me, we'd both be happy! you must change the imag format to 'indexed' before you can save as GIF alan
Re: Printer Woes and Gimp
hi, I am trying to use gimp (ver 1.0.4) ) Epson Color Stylus Driver 600 and a Epson Color 640 printer to print graphics to a 8.5x11 surface (paper, photo paper and transparancies so far). The command " /usr/bin/lpr -Plp -l" is used from within gimp's printer set up. Regardless of the scaling or positioning the image always prints the same size and roughly 90% of the image prints on one sheet while the rest of the image is printed to a second sheet. Is any one familiar with this problem and any possible fixes use 'printtool' and configure your printer devicesperhaps make a new entry , lets say 'new' that is 8.5x11 , then you'd print to lpr -Pnew alan
Re: 2 computers, 3 gimps, no hue-saturation
hi, STDERR on Virgil just showed me an eth0 problem. Links to the other files are: thanks for doing links rather than posting the stuff here :-) 1. dmesg.treva (3 KB) http://i6.yimg.com/6/e7afa96b/h/ad02f3a8/dmesg.treva looks pretty normal 2. stderr.treva (3 KB) http://i6.yimg.com/6/e7afa96b/h/bb7e4777/stderr.treva you're trying to run tha card in 16bit, the driver doesnt support 16bit, make and define an 8bit mode. on Xfree4, run Xconfigurator, or xf86config, on Xfree4, run Xfree86 -configure 3. dmesg.virgil (3 KB) http://i6.yimg.com/6/e7afa96b/h/d76bb67b/dmesg.virgil how are these machines networked? do you have a hub or switch? is autonegotiation switched on on it? alan
Re: Thanks
hi, ... to everyone about the plugin info. I am now a bit more enlightened! sorry, cant make it due to the PPARC summerschool computing requirements alan
Re: Thanks
hi, ... to everyone about the plugin info. I am now a bit more enlightened! ever replied to the wrong list? ;-) I just have! 8-) ob-back-onsubject: yes, you can get precompiled plugins, you either stick them in the GIMP plugin directory (if you have access to do so) or you stick 'em in your own home directory .gimp area and when you start-up Gimp it'll allocate them an entry and make them active. Most plugins are quite version specificeg Burn-It is only 1.0.x, no 1.1.x yet alan
Re: FW: button-like effect
hi, And some of us check our email at the command line, and seeing all that garbled mime junk is rather annoying. If one gives a URL, I can paste it into netscape. A mime attachment needs to be saved, demimed, then viewed -- not something I bother doing unless it's important. Set up a geocities account for putting the pictures if you don't have access to web space. Thanks! a properly configured PINE can read and view attachments of any kind of course ;-) alan
Re: being geekish on a a1200
hi, Offtopic: Are there any gfx programs left on the amiga which still being developed? yes, PG, IFX, AE and a few more. I hope Photogenics(http://www.paulnolan.com) will work well with linux. The It look like it will...whether it can compete with the free Gimp is another matter...it was the subject of an interview earlier this year. (in AmigActive magazine I believe) Something I'd really like to see for the GIMP is a plugin like "Eye Candy" for Photoshop or "Candy Factory" for Amiga. Ok, you can do all of the stuff with GIMP too, but it doesn't have the nice GUI where everything is in one place. :-) not just Candy Factory...but also Wildfire, thats got some great stuff in it. strange, you didnt mention ImageFX anywhere. surely one of the best programs for gfx on the Amiga currently alan
Re: Scanner suggestions
hi, Anyhow, any suggestions out there for a scanner? There are several listed in the book, but I thought I'd see what suggestions might come my way, as it's a bit outdated. I'd recommend a SCSI Hewlett-Packard. well supported under Linux alan
Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....
hi, checking for gtk-config... /usr/bin/gtk-config checking for GTK - version = 1.2.8... *** An old version of GTK+ (1.2.6) was found. *** You need a version of GTK+ newer than 1.2.8. The latest version of *** GTK+ is always available from ftp://ftp.gtk.org. *** *** If you have already installed a sufficiently new version, this error *** probably means that the wrong copy of the gtk-config shell script is *** being found. The easiest way to fix this is to remove the old version *** of GTK+, but you can also set the GTK_CONFIG environment to point to the *** correct copy of gtk-config. (In this case, you will have to *** modify your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf *** so that the correct libraries are found at run-time)) configure: error: Test for GTK failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help. [root@localhost gimp-1.1.24]# ;-) well, it tries to help you as much as it can (without getting overly technical!) firstly, you need to make sure that all of your libraries are properly linked. ldconfig -a is the command to run. secndly, you dont want /usr/lib to appear twice in your ld.so.conf file. that can mess things up (and slow down library searches!) FINALLY, are you SURE that the new gtk is in /usr/lib? have you checked under /usr/local/lib ? if its there, then add this path to your ld.so.conf and then run ldconfig -a again. hint: run 'updatedb' as root. it will take a while, but will build a directory database of your system. then, to find files on your machine, you can type locate filename-that-i-want and it'll find that file - with path. ideal for debugging problems such as this!! good luck!! alan
Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....
hi, Got any ideas about this ? perl is the reason why I am going through all of this heartache - so I can get to the perl plug-ins (esp. perlotine). my advice is to get the full Perl 5.6 tarball and install that. alan
Re: MyOwnBear Newsletter #18
hi, Is there a Bondage Bear? old news, already done ;-) http://www.sussex.ac.uk/Users/kcci1/bondidog.html alan
Re: The GIMP v1.1.24 Installation Saga Continues.....
hi,
checking for working makeinfo... missing
checking host system type... configure: error: can not guess host type; you
must specify one
I have make, automake and autoconf installed. As well as this, I have perl
5.005, gtk 1.2.8 and glib 1.2.8 installed (I did an rpm -Uvh --force to
upgrade these, so that may have adversely affected the results).
this has already been answered twice last week. something on your machine
is not installed - or running. possibly an identd??
you need to add --host i686-pc-linux-gnu
after your ./configure command
(thats if you've got a PentiumPro/II or III system )
other environments are:
ac_cv_host=${ac_cv_host='i686-pc-linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_alias=${ac_cv_host_alias='i686-pc-linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_cpu=${ac_cv_host_cpu='i686'}
ac_cv_host_os=${ac_cv_host_os='linux-gnu'}
ac_cv_host_vendor=${ac_cv_host_vendor='pc'}
best wishes!
alan
Re: extension-perl-server (fwd)
hi, What's the relation between Gimp-1.2 moduleand perl-Gimp-1.082-2 rpm? Gimp is the program. to use the perl plugins, you have to use the latest Perl-Gimp My Perl is 5.6.0 and resides at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.0/i686-linux my Gimp Perl is 1.2 alan
Re: GIMP v1.1.24 RPM Take 2
hi, "error: failed dependencies: perl = 5.005_03 is needed by gimp-1.1.24-2 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.005/i686-pld-linux-thread is needed by gimp-1.1.24-2 gtk+ = 1.2.8 is needed by gimp-1.1.24-2 perl(Carp) is needed by gimp-1.1.24-2 perl(DynaLoader) is needed by gimp-1.1.24-2 perl(Exporter) is needed by gimp-1.1.24-2" (etc.). (2) So, then I downloaded an RPM for gtk-1.2.8 and attempted to upgrade as follows (rpm -Uvh gtk-1.2.8-24.i386.rpm), but got a long string of errors similar to the following : "file /usr/share/locale/ca/LC_MESSAGES/gtk+.mo from install of gtk-1.2.8-24 conflicts with file from package gtk+-1.2.6-6mdk" Note that I was unable to simply uninstall gtk-1.2.6 - when I did this it gave me a long list of programs (dependencies) which required GTK. (3) Finally, I downloaded a perl RPM package, and tried to updgrade it (rpm -Uvh perl-5.005_03-172.i386.rpm), and got errors like the following : "package perl-5.00503-10mdk (which is newer then perl-5.005_03-172) is already installed file /usr/bin/perl from install of perl-5.005_03-172 conflicts with file from package perl-base-5.00503-10mdk..." If this is already installed why was I getting all of those perl-related dependency errors when installing GIMP ? because you've chosen a non-standard PERL distribution. get 5.6.0 for the latest up-to-date PERL. you might fare better with removing a package instead of upgrading it. rpm -evh perl PS what are these 'mdk' RPM's you're messing your system up with? alan
Re: Antwort: Re: GIMP v1.1.24 RPM Take 2
hi, mdk rpms are specialized RPMs that conform to the Mandrake RPM conventions. 'specialised' and 'conventions' spell proprietary in my book. whats wrong with the 'open' RPM standard embraced by the tools already on most Linux, Solaris, Un8X systems? best avoid those 'special blands' and keep with the pure. otherwise your only answer is get the tar.gz and then ./configure and make ...and pray alan
Re: Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: GIMP v1.1.24 RPM Take 2
hi, No, that was not what I meant. Mandrake RPMs are about all compiled with the same settings, use a standard way to update menus for GNOME or KDE and store files like manpages in the same location (/usr/share/man/*). So, if you're using a Mandrake distribution, it is best to stay with Mandrake RPMs to make sure that the package you are using is really optimized in compilation and normal use on Mandrake. ..if you want the bells and whistles (ie nice correlation between menus and icons), sure. if you want revisions that work, then maybe best to move to standard RPMs :-) anyway, i think I've already covered the PERL problem by mentioning 5.6.0 (not sure what RPM flavours that comes in thoughI just get the .tar.gz and compile is from source (far less hassle since I have to place such things on solaris, Unix, Linux, etc) - AND i get to easily choose where they install on the system ;-) ) alan
Re: GIMP v1.1.24 RPM Take 2
hi, Which additional pacckages do I need for the plugins to work? My perl plugins stopped working since version 1.1.19 of gimp. I compiled the source-distribution of perl-5.6.0 and installed - Parse-RecDescent-1.78 - PDL-2.005 - Gtk-Perl-0.6123 Both perl and gimp compiled without threading. All perl-plugins crash with message "Plug-In crashed: ..." cant help you more than saying I got source of Perl5.6.0 and Gimp 1.1.24 and compiled both of them (after reading documents) and then installed PDL and gtk-perl afterwards (both taken from gimp's FTP site) alan
Re: Bad rendering of PNG saved from GIMP
hi, 'cuse the ignorance, but is it possible to create a png image that provides 'gif type of transparency?' That is, something that will work with current browsers and stay away from the patented gif format? yes, of course you can have PNGs with transparency RedHat Linxu comes with a transparentcy PNG for its login window with xdm/kdm (RedHat 6.1) the GIF format is only patented for its LZW compression technique... (so, get uncompressed GIFs and you can be free anyway ;-) alan
Re: Bad rendering of PNG saved from GIMP
hi, ive read all the stuff on png support in web browsers. it sucks. every single browser out there has some kind of error. so basically, dont use pngs. ive read it and read it. ...and I supposed these people tested all the browsers out there, yes? I mean, after all, theres Netscape, IE, Voyager, Opera, IBrowse, Hotjava, Mozilla, I-Spy, Arena, StarOffice, KDEs Browser, etc etc alan
Re: Bad rendering of PNG saved from GIMP
hi, Why would web brousers support png's if nobody is using them? Let's just start small by using the minimal features of png on our webpages, so that the web browsers will see that png is becoming popular and code in better support. my favourite browsers supported PNG since last year. as soon as they did I converted all my images to PNG. saved 2Mb of web space (with high quality images) and thought 'who cares' about the older web-browser based people. after all, since I lost text-version ability, I've added all other bits to the site that NEED post-3rd generation browsers anyway! :-) alan
Re: Bad rendering of PNG saved from GIMP
hi, On Tue, 1 Aug 2000, James Smaby wrote: since I lost text-version ability Who says lynx doesn't support png's? Lynx actually does a much better rendering of png's than any `graphical' browser so far! Of course, it doesn't really do the rendering itself, but forks the displaying of it to xv or whatever the person installing lynx sets up as viewer for the images. (one could set that as the gimp, although that could get quite annoying loading up the gimp for each image one wants to see). okay 'inlined viewing ability' then :-) by text-version I mean a version that has all data as text (no imagemaps etc etc) so that it can be used by blind people surfing. I still have this on some of my pagesits a nice and neat thing to do. alan
Re: Script-fu crashes
hi, On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, clemensF wrote: Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero: Did you tried the SUBmarine tactic? Alt+SysReq+S (sync disks), wait until windows? linux? frebsd? this is Linux - but only if the SysReq function has been compiled into the kernel options (when building the kernel, its practically the last option to choose) alan
Re: Newbie Developer's Question
hi, The console is nice to debug them, but not to do full script development (IMO). I doubt anybody uses it beyond testing some lines of code or fix something, like erasing "hang" images or layers (does anybody do more than that? am I the "rare"?). I use the console to see what the command does to the image/layer...if it works, I then cut-n-paste into emacs. if not, then i just do an undo :-) alan
Re: no X thankyou!!
hi, IIRC there is a X server that fakes that. It works as normal X, but never shows anything anywhere. Xvfb maybe? And of course, VNC. ..but this would stop normal X running on the machine - need a solution that allows the script to run every hour - whether I'm logged in, or not. alan
Re: script-fu-selection-round only with restart?
hi, The strange thing here is, that I can call this script once (it just gives me a white image with a rounded selection), but when I call this script again, I get the error message: Script-Fu Error ERROR: Procedural database execution failed: (gimp_selection_bounds 0) Only when I restart gimp, I can use it again! this is because you have hardcoded the image/layer as '0'. if you keep running GIMP, then the next image you process will not be 0, but 1,2,3 etc etc I have had to use hardcoded numbers in my script until I can find out why my variables arent passed through...this means I have to quit after using my script (which is okay because its a cron batch job anyway!) but I'd prefer to have it working. alan
Fonts problem with 1.1.23
hi, Well, the good news - I've got my script-fu batch working from a --bath command line. the bad news...it only works if the interface is loaded up :-| if I dont load the interface, my invoking of the ascii-img script-fu fails... is there a fix for this? Do I set some variable to allow font'ing without GUI? alan
Re: gimp rmps
hi, rpm -Uvh perl-5.00505-10.i386.rpm put rpm -ivh instead alan
Re: Performance of Gimp vs. photoshop for large images
hi, this is linux specific, and wrong. It is very sensible of the kernel to swap out data that is likely not to be used for other apps like gimp. 'top' - thats a command featured in almost all un*x-style OS's Any non-obsolete linux kernel version can be expected to swap out 6-10mb even shortly after a boot, and even if memory is available. ??? I'd like to know what you're doing.this is my report right at this point in time. [me@host 10]# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:128200 100544 27656 21772 39980 21432 -/+ buffers/cache: 39132 89068 Swap: 120452 0 120452 [me@host 11]# uptime 9:18am up 7 days, 18:49, 4 users, load average: 3.00, 3.00, 2.98 Alan
Re: Performance of Gimp vs. photoshop for large images
hi, BTW, Unix "trashing" is rare to find, or at least to heard. When it moves data to disk it does not sound like Windows Machine Gun Swap Routine (TM), ;-) easiest way to see when you're swapping is to go to a shell and type 'free' - you shouldnt see the swap number used at all if you want best performance. Though some apps may require huge chunks but dont continually hit swap alan
Re: Help with my mail
hi, Not the answer you expected, but pine cannot separate mail on its own. Yassen ..but your advice has helped me out (I was halfway to a working procmail) so it was worth saying anyway! :-) alan
Batch script problems
hi, I`ve created a list of commands using the Script-Fu dialog console that do exactly what I want it did take a long time to suss out some of the arguments...but thats fine, i like a challenge. however, I tried creating my own script-fu following the docs...but Gimp doesnt pick it up... (where in my .gimp-1.1 directory does the file i make go? whats all this busines of compiling them?) so..anyway, i tried making a batch file instead. this is what i have so far gimp --verbose -b \ '(set! theResult (script-fu-asc-2-img "motd.txt" "-*-Charter-*-r-*-*-24-*-*-*-p-*-*-*" 45 '(0 0 0) TRUE '(255 255 255) 35))' \ '(set! Finalpicture (gimp-image-merge-visible-layers theImage 1))' \ '(gimp-image-set-filename Finalpicture "motd.png")' \ '(gimp-file-save 1 theImage theLayer "/home/almb/motd.png" "motd.png")' \ '(gimp-quit 0)' \ trouble is the COLOR flags in line two - '(number number number) the ' is being picked up by the shell and its screwing it all upany way of getting this to actually run? I've tried escape characters..but iirc \ only does a linefeed! :-( Alan PS whats this for? Well, I grab the important stuff from /etc/motd (lines begin with an *) and then i put it into this and i get a nice text image with transparent background - which I then put onto the login window of the Linux boxes so MOTD is displayed nicely under the kdm login manager.
