Re: [Gimp-user] Help with editing an image like The National album art

[Chris Mohler]

Sorry - that last command is Color -> Colorize.  I got distracted and
rushed the message ;)

Example:
https://imgur.com/a/S9e0V

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Re: [Gimp-user] enhance logo for large print

[Chris Mohler]

Yes - that logo needs to be recreated (or found again) in vector
format - all these folks are correct.

I do want to throw out a trick though. It didn't work for your logo,
but you'd be surprised at how often it *does* work: reverse image
search:
http://www.tineye.com/search/925a0d00b7662176f504844394cf0625481d1f26/?pluginver=chrome-1.1.4

As you can see, that search is a bust: it only found one image, and
it's the same size. But sometimes you can find a much higher res
version using this method.  Google Images can also reverse search, but
it's not as reliable as TinEye.

Also if it's a somewhat well-known brand, it's always worth checking
brandsofheworld.com to see if it's already available in vector.

But yeah - there's no magic wand in GIMP (or anywhere) that's going to
make that logo hi-res and look OK.  It's simply too small.

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] HEX to Pantone Color Conversion

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:45 AM, Robert &  Betty Lustila
 wrote:
> Good day, I'm looking to find a way to convert HTML 3e479a to its
> corresponding Pantone Color Code - Is there any way to do this?  Thanks

I know of no reliable method (aside from having a swatch book and
using the mark-one eyeball).  That being said, try this:
http://rgb.to/hex/3e479a

Or if you search the web for "HEX to Pantone", you will see some other
tools pop up.

Also, (I think) Pantone used to have a color lookup on their own site.
But I can't find it anymore.

But once again - I doubt any of these tools are super-reliable.  This
is from someone who used to mix Pantone ink colors.

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Clean up curves

[Chris Mohler]

On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Partha Bagchi parth...@gmail.com wrote:
 No simple solution like ofnuts said. You can try the smudge tool to
 see if it helps.

Or you could grab the vector of the flames:
http://website4signs.com/Flames/ClassicRedFlames.pdf

I'm pretty sure this is where the flame graphics came from originally.
If I'm wrong - yeah, you will need to manually clean things up, sorry.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Opacity in background image after using Quick Mask mode

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 2:22 PM, jlancaster jlancas...@protonmail.com wrote:
 (see attached screenshot)

This mailing list drops attachments - can you upload the image
somewhere and paste a link?

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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] Test images and test suite (was Re: GIMP should fork babl and GEGL)

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Elle Stone
ellest...@ninedegreesbelow.com wrote:
 *What copyrighted or otherwise test images GIMP users might have downloaded
 from the internet and found useful, and
 *what kinds of test images GIMP users might have already put together,
 *for what particular testing purposes.

I have used this image for a wide variety of testing, mostly to do
with printing:
http://www.pixl.dk/download/ (first link)

(note to prudes, there is a woman's bare bottom included ;)

The license wording is a little ambiguous, but I interpret it to mean
that it's OK to use it for testing purposes, as long as you aren't
selling or otherwise distributing the image itself.  I'm not sure how
that would relate to a project like GIMP, and it appears we'd need a
German speaker to even ask.

The 2002 version contains a *wide* variety of things that can go
spectacularly wrong when printing (eg for one, over saturation of
black completely destroys the image of the watch), and was a real life
saver when I was setting up the workflow of: Workstation - Digital
RIP - Large Format Printer.  It's a beastly image to try and print
correctly, and I imagine the 2009 version is just as devious :)

/goes back to munching popcorn and lurking on the color threads...

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to swap image colors

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote:
 Since this is a very simple text-logo, if you know and can get access to the
 font used for the original, you could much more easily (and in higher
 quality and more quickly) recreate by using text in an image program of some
 sort -- actually probably better in a vector-based program (Inkscape,
 Illustrator, etc.) instead of a bit-map-based program (Gimp, Photoshop,
 etc.).

The font used is 'Palatino Linotype Bold'.

Chris

http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/results?ch%5B0%5D=Sch%5B1%5D=ych%5B2%5D=sch%5B3%5D=tch%5B4%5D=ech%5B5%5D=mwtfserver=wtf_b_41id=000a3b05541d8b6d000d09763046glyphcount=6imageid=0x=66y=37
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP for Mac OS X

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Zariah Art z...@zariahart.com wrote:
 so it appears as if Gimp is no longer offering a download for mac OS X-- is
 this true?

No.  See 'OS X' section:
http://www.gimp.org/downloads/

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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF doesn't open even when the preview is fine

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm new with a problem that is bugging me.
 I did spent hours on a pic with several layers, saving it regularly.

And this isn't going to help immediately, but once I've been working
on a file called my_cool_image_01.xcf for over an hour, I do a
File-Save As (CTRL-Shift-S), and name it 'my_cool_image_02.xcf.
This isn't just a GIMP thing - I do the same in all programs.  Disk
space is cheap; my time is not ;)

Going forward, if you use this strategy you'll likely only lose an
hour at most if things go sideways.  But to be fully honest I pair
that strategy with regular off-site backups :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] on Removing background- Layer Mask Removal

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Frank215 for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Pic # 2 - after applying add to Alpaha, then Invert Desaturate  only to 
 original
 (lumosity selected)   - no other tweeks made.

Turn off the visibility of the top layer, and you will see the
desaturated layer (see: http://postimg.org/image/lfpz8bla5/).

Or change the order of the layers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP TurboPrint2 error msg

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:19 PM, George-R for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 And yet, the error message comes from GIMP so one nagging question remains, 
 does
 GIMP have (or did it have) a gnome-keyring setting?

My guess after a couple of quick searches is this is a problem between
TurboPrint and gnome-keyring.  AFAIK (and I'm no expert), GIMP doesn't
interact with gnome-keyring when printing.

Are you sure gnome-keyring is even running?  I'm not sure Mate starts
it for you by default.  See a similar issue:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=653011

But pretty sure this is either NOTABUG or NOTGNOME.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP TurboPrint2 error msg

[Chris Mohler]

Heh - for some reason I thought this one came from Bugzilla.  Forget
the noise about 'NOTABUG/NOTGNOME'.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Toolbox problem

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Reinhardt Christiansen
rhino...@yahoo.ca wrote:
 How do I get back to where I'm getting the toolbox automatically upon
 opening GIMP and the supporting dialogs also appear when you click on the
 relevant tool?

1 - the Tab key will toggle visibility of your toolbox and the
dockable dialogs.

2 - look under Windows-Dockable Dialogs.  You will find the tool
options, brushes etc. there.  Depending on how long ago you closed
them, you may find them under Windows-Recently Closed Docks.

3 - you might want to try Single Window Mode.  This is also under the
main 'Windows' menu.  This makes all the tools and dockables into one
solid window, instead of all the little floating windows.

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Length of a path

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Gunold Brunbauer
gunoldbrunba...@online.de wrote:
 Is there a way to measure the length of a path ?

http://registry.gimp.org/node/17235

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Re: [Gimp-user] Scaling on Center; Add/Subtract with Brushes

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Mark Bourne
gimp-users.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
 SirCrow wrote:

 (Why do I have to type in that challenge thing every time?  Doesn't the
 system
 know it's me?)


 You shouldn't have to. Once you've subscribed to the mailing list, and
 replied to the confirmation message once, you should be able to just send
 emails to the list.

But I think he's using the forum at gimpusers.com - which is sort of
tied to the list in a half-assed way ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to

[Chris Mohler]

On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:19 PM, caroline for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 what i would like to
 know is what is this called in Gimp - how to would be wonderful if anyone has
 time.

http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Layer_Masks/

You'll want to do something similar to the second example, but using
semi-transparent brushes/erasers.

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Re: [Gimp-user] create a flashing neon sign

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 1:46 AM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 It would be awesome if there was enthusiasm and energy enough to release
 an official gimp filter pack with as many of the old filters as made
 sense, and any others that are obvious candidates.

This is 'unofficial' and contains a few that I usually compile/install
after setting up a new OS:
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp-plugin-registry

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Re: [Gimp-user] can not see tool box and others

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM, mahesh256 for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
Windows  Single-Window Mode
 it didnot work for me ,sorry

How about pressing the [Tab] key?  That shows/hides the dockables.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Ubuntu Gimp menus slow to load

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM, woollypigs for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I managed to report it as a bug on Launchpad and it looks like I'm not alone
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gimp/+bug/1245155

Have you tried either logging in as a new user or renaming your
~/.gimp-2.8 directory?

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to fill areas of a rotated image...?

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM, rhimbo for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I would like to fill these spaces so it is not obvious
 that the image was rotated.  How can I do this?

 What is the standard way to manipulate images in this manner?

Pull out the crop tool ;)

http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-tool-crop.html

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Re: [Gimp-user] XCF to PDF problems with font

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Stephen Allen
marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote:
 The open source eqivalent to Illustrator is Inkspot.

I think you mean 'Inkscape' here, no?

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Re: [Gimp-user] A Sad case of regression

[Chris Mohler]

On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Norbert Preining prein...@logic.at wrote:
 These bullying emails are just plain rubbish. Software should be written with 
 the users in mind. And
 - opening a jpg file
 - editing
 - saving
 should result in a saved version of yhe original file, because that is what 
 practically all programs are doing, and what the user expectation, and 
 natural behaviour i

Grue beat me to this, but this doesn't work for JPEG.  If you have a
text editor, you could create a document with say 1 header and 3
paragraphs.  Then you could edit paragraph #1 a thousand times, save
each time, and your header and other paragraphs remain identical.

However if you edit a portion of a JPEG a thousand times, and save a
thousand times, the whole of the image is going to take some major
punishment.  In this case instead of saving you are really
reencoding.  Would you consider your text document saved if random
characters were transposed throughout?

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Re: [Gimp-user] IPTC in GIMP

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 3:17 AM, Alain Sahuquet UM2
sahuq...@univ-montp2.fr wrote:
 how can i use IPTC tags in GIMP?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+can+i+use+IPTC+tags+in+GIMP%3F

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze?

[Chris Mohler]

On Sun, May 12, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Henry W. Peters hwpet...@jamadots.com wrote:
 Does anyone on the list here, have any actual knowledge  or experience
 building GIMP 2.8x on Linux Debian Squeeze? My current version of GIMP is
 2.6.1.

 Some questions I have (for example) are: Do I /really/ have to uninstall the
 old version...? Any dependency issues (conflicts, etc.) ? Any way to get the
 (newer) dependencies by means of the terminal? Will I be able to actually do
 this (i.e.,/ do a working build with this version/)?

I have 2.6 and 2.8 on the a Mint (like Ubuntu/Debian) system.

There's a build script floating around somewhere, but I can't seem to
find it now (and it required heavy modification, at least for my
system anyway).

There's this:
http://wiki.gimp.org/index.php/Hacking:Building/Linux

I think the biggest thing to remember is to remember to prefix
everything with /opt or /home/YOU/gimp/ - ie *not* put it into /usr or
/usr/local/.

'apt-get build-dep gimp' should bring in several -dev packages you'll
need.  The rest will need to be compiled and installed in /opt or
wherever.

It's been some months since I went through this - I'm probably
forgetting a few things, but the short answer is yes, you can compile
and install 2.8 without removing 2.6.  There are quite a dew deps to
work through, but keep the additions outside of your system path and
you should be fine.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] How to make transparency gradiate?

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Keith Purtell kpurt...@imirus.com wrote:
 A client has supplied a logo for Web display (PNG). The logo background is
 white and needs to become transparent. I've done this in GIMP no problem
 with simple graphics. However this one features design elements that cast a
 pale gray shadow onto the white background. Not sure how to make the
 transparent background play nice with the shadow area?

 If it helps, the background color where this logo will be displayed is pale
 gray with a bit of blue tint.

Fake it: put the logo and shadow on top of a background layer in GIMP
that matches the background color of the page.  Export the result.

Or look at CSS drop or box shadows maybe.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Text Along Path Trouble

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Astabeth for...@gimpusers.com wrote:

 It creates a whole new path and puts the text on it.  I have never had any 
 path
 except the one (visible in blue) around the person's head

It looks to me like it _is_ putting the text along the path, but in 11
or 12 lines.  Did you enter newlines/linebreaks in the text editor?
If so, get rid of them.

You might consider exporting the image and path to Inkscape, and
setting the text there.  I've had more luck using Inkscape for text
along paths:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/INKSCAPE/MANUAL/html/Text-Path.html

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch processing?

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 Imagemagick is a Swiss Army Knife[...]

But the OP specifically mentioned glitches when using IM on the SVG
files, and requested help with GIMP in batch mode instead.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's basically just a content swap. It still needs to be entirely restyled.
 Also, I found something out. If I change one of the classes, the body
 becomes fluid. The problem with that is the images (the browser icons on the
 page) and the text end up too far apart on the body.

 This is the exact reason why I chose to go for a static design. The mockup
 that Mike made doesn't exactly work with a fluid design unfortunately.
 Unless we come up with something different, I'm afraid we'll be stuck with a
 static design.

There's a difference between the grid:
http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#gridSystem

and the fluid grid:
http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/scaffolding.html#fluidGridSystem

I've only given the proposed layout a once-over, but I'm pretty sure
you want to use the default grid, not the fluid, for this layout.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.com wrote:
  To be completely honest, I purposefully avoided mobile support. Considering
 that GIMP is a desktop exclusive program, I figured that adding mobile
 support would be a waste of time. If there is enough demand for it, however,
 I'll attempt to add it.

I would at least have a look at adding something like bootstrap.
Adding a few classes to your divs and you'd be 99% done.  Most
elements would then scale to fit tablets/mobile, etc.

Use case A: I'm out at the bar and talking about design work.  My
companion mentions how all the software you need is expensive.  I
point out GIMP can handle quite a bit, esp when it comes to web and
photos.  My companion asks can it do X?  I look it up on the site.
Site looks bad == project looks bad.

Use case B: Loss of internet connection, no local help installed, but
access to web via a mobile data plan. Easy to access the docs on the
phone.

I doubt these cases are common, really - but using something like
bootstrap or unsemantic doesn't take long and handles them nicely.

Just my opinion really - I see it as a relatively small amount of
effort even if the gains are small.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.com wrote:
 So tell me what you guys think of it so far! Any and all positive as well as
 negative feedback is welcome and much appreciated. It'll really help me make
 this into something that everyone can enjoy!

I'm not a huge fan of the black background.  Overall, I do like the
design though.

One thing is missing: mobile-friendly layouts.  The current site is
not fantastic at mobile size, but it's more usuable than your demo.
Apologies if you were already planning to take care of this.

As for HTML5, I've seen my fill of browser-specific issues with HTML
4.0 and XHTML.  Avoid the stuff that's still in churn (eg, canvas tag
the last time I checked), and HTML5 is fine IMO, and a lot more fun to
work with.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.10 Compiling src issues

[Chris Mohler]

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Rukiri for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Babl
 git clone git://git.gnome.org/babl
 cd babl
 ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/gimp-git
 make -j3
 sudo checkinstall --backup=no --deldoc=yes --fstrans=no --deldesc=yes
 --delspec=yes --pkgversion=0.1.10-git

Um - isn't your 'pkgversion' flag explicitly setting the babl version
to 0.1.10?  It's been a while since I used checkinstall, so I could be
wrong though.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Recolour image according to palette

[Chris Mohler]

On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Surma for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I want to to map each pixel to the colour in my
 palette that most closely represents the original colour. How do I do this?

Perhaps Image-Mode-Indexed, select Custom Palette, and select your palette?

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Re: [Gimp-user] unsupported file format

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:23 PM, rht for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
Why don't you report it to Otto? He is quite responsive.

 Can you give me a munged email address for him, please?

Look here:
https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch

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Re: [Gimp-user] unsupported file format

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Constance Lowery
loweryconstanc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please take my name and email address off your list, thanks.

Follow the link at the bottom of each message to unsubscribe:
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list

HTH,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp App for Android and IOS!

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.de wrote:
 Imagine how awkward it would be to use the current GIMP with a touch
 interface...

I don't have to.  I had debian running on a n900 and installed GIMP
(2.6).  It's probably a bit worse than you imagine ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] import vs open

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 * File-Open filters to *.xcf* by default; attempting to open a non-xcf
 file brings up a message, myfile.jpg is not an XCF file. Would you like
 to import it?

Current File-Open makes sense as it is, at least to me.  After a
CTRL-O I don't want to have to reset the filter every time, or see a
dialog every time. Just treat it like an import - no need to add a
dialog (this covers right-click 'Edit with GIMP' also - would we have
to add another action: 'Import into GIMP' to skip the dialog?  yuck.).

As for File-Import, I don't understand why it would ever replace
anything - much less why the clean/dirty flag would be the toggle.
Maybe I'm missing something.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HELP SAVING AS A PDF

[Chris Mohler]

On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 1:54 AM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 There is also a quick and dirty method

Another:

1. Image-Flatten Image

2. Export PDF

Agreed that Inkscape is the better choice for this type of layout.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help! How do I uninstall Gimp on my Mac

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.de wrote:
 Can applications on that platform really do this to each other?

I haven't used OS X since 10.2 or 10.3, but this is highly doubtful.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Opening Page

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Terry t-m...@ntlworld.com wrote:
 I would like to ask why my opening page is not the same as the one on the
 YOU TUBE hints showing how to to remove the background behind the ostrich

You should post a link to the video in question ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo protection - transparent foreground

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 10:34 AM, d b dd_besgr...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I have heard you can protect your photographs on the web by applying a
 transparent overlay to them. When someone then right clicks and saves the
 image, all they get is the transparent foreground and not the photo
 underneath.

FYI, anyone with the knowledge can defeat this protection quite easily.

I'm not saying it won't help at all, but robots, browser extensions,
and code monkeys will not be fooled by this approach ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo protection - transparent foreground

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 Probably the most effective approach to preventing e-z downloading
 of an image displayed on a web page, is to slice it into a grid of
 images

Still defeated by the humble PrtScn key ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo protection - transparent foreground

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 (2) occasionally do google image searches for your images --

(2b) do the same on http://www.tineye.com/

Chris

PS: I'm pretty sure I could convince xorg to give me a frame, no
matter what video shenanigans were in play - hence no Netflix on linux
;)  I'm starting to wander off topic though...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Questions about gimp compairing gimp to PS

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 In re adjustment layers, I may be missing something fundamental but
 I seem to be doing the same thing, more or less, in the GIMP:

Nah. In PS I can insert a levels layer.  Everything under the layer
is affected by the levels operation.  But here's the kicker - you can
always go back and adjust the levels settings.  I don't use PS all
that much anymore, but there were a few adjustment layers that real
time-savers (colorize being one).

As you say, you can sort of get the same result in GIMP manually but
the mechanism is not the same at all.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Python script query

[Chris Mohler]

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 7:13 PM, Lorgach for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Thanks a lot for the sugestions guys, I'll probably keep pluging away at 
 trying
 to get some working code as time permits as I'm interested in learning Python.

With one image open, try:

Filters-Python-Fu-Console

Enter:

my_img = gimp.image_list()[0]

Then:

dir(my_img)

Also:

dir(gimp)


I usually have the console open before or during writing a plug-in so
I can mess around first.  The other window I have open is
Help-Procedure Browser.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Python script query

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Lorgach for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 In order to cut down on time, and also to gain experience I decided to modify 
 some of the scripts that were written by experienced Python programmers to 
 see what effects I could produce on various images.
 However, I have found that when I make even minor changes to a script and 
 save the changed script to the ‘plug-ins’ folder under a new name, it will 
 not show up in the Gimp Drop Down Menu specified in the script.
 I would like to know if anyone else has come across this snag and, if so, 
 what is the cause or if there is a solution.

You'll need to restart GIMP for it to pick up a new plug-in.  Once it
appears you can edit it, as long as the menu item hasn't changed.

The proc_name must be unique - this is defined in the register function.

If there's a syntax error, the plug-in won't load.


Start GIMP in a command terminal to catch start-up errors.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Allow myself to introduce...... myself

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 reputable font sites (e.g. fonts.com, myfonts.com are a good
 start, and openfontlibrary.org is good too when it works).

dafont.com also has some nice specimens.

 I'd strongly urge you to experiment with Inkscape for the sort of images
 you posted.

+1.  Inkscape is far better suited to logo design.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Xcf file Corrupt!? Please Help!

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Kfayejessee for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 So I have been working on this painting for over a week…

Rule #1: Perform regular backups
Rule #2: See Rule #1

Sorry for the semi-snarky response, but it is a good set of rules and
will save you time and heartache when things really go wrong ;)

When I'm working on File-01.xcf, after an hour or two of work I do
Save As and name that File-02.xcf, and so on.  And there are
plug-ins in the registry that automatically make incremental backups.


My first guess as to the the cause of the corruption is hardware.  A
full or failing disk, corrupt RAM, etc.  Or I've had issues with
saving to flaky shared storage.  The prognosis is not good if it's any
of these.

What version of GIMP are you using (see Help-About)?  What
operating system?  Are you saving to an internal hard drive, or
external storage? Can you post a link to the XCF online somewhere?

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Save Export Complaints

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 11:38 AM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote:
 The first rule to know when editing an image is to save your work as you go
 along. When you drive a car you look ahead, not behind, you watch the
 road... It's the same principle : security. If people knew that, this
 annoying thread would not exist.

You know, you're supposed to keep an eye out all around you - not just
straight ahead.  You have tunnel vision.  I do hope I'm not on the
road with you ;)

 People have to observe this rule then they'll be happy with the standard
 save  save as behavior, like in Gimp-2.6 and all other editors, which
 allows to work quickly and normally with all kinds of file.

What rule?  WTF is so hard about exporting instead of saving?  I'm a
little unclear on how you're being prevented from working quickly and
normally.  Some kind soul has already written a plug-in that will
save you the one measly extra keystroke if you want to work
destructively.  To read all of your posts one would think that you'd
be so busy professionally editing that you'd not have the time to
continuously post rants about behavior that WILL NOT CHANGE.

If you spent 1% of the energy spent ranting here and instead learned
to adapt your workflow to the new behavior you'd be better off.

Grr... I swore I'd ignore these useless  threads :(

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Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 6:23 AM, maderios mader...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Explanation: this plugin simplifies the life of people who use Gimp as a
 working tool.
 Best regards.

Please.  I'm almost certain it was written to stop all the whining.

I Save As every hour or so and bump the version, but still - there's
nothing quite as awful as accidentally discarding all of your layers,
masks, paths, channels, etc. from your working tool.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] A plug-in for those who still don't like the new Save/Export

[Chris Mohler]

On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Akkana Peck akk...@shallowsky.com wrote:
 wouldn't it be more simple to flatten everything rather than ...  ?

 It wouldn't make you very happy after you saved an XCF and tried to
 reopen it ... some formats DO support layers. :-)

How about:

 - Duplicate image
 - Flatten duplicate
 - Save
 - Destroy duplicate

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

[Chris Mohler]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't exactly get what you mean by 200 page tiffs?
 You mean one continuous image that takes 200 pages worth of sub-images?

TIFF can store multiple images (pages) in one file.  TIFF is one of
the most abused image formats I know of ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tagged_Image_File_Format#Multiple_subfiles

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to exposing more tiff load options for scripting

[Chris Mohler]

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:
 That must be one heck of a big file. I used to work in graphics
 but nothing like that.
 This topic reminds me of the woman a while back who was
 making a giant fabric image like a mile long?

It's probably not that bad, since they are grayscale and
JPEG-compressed.  By the OP's desire to save as CCITT 1-bit, I infer
that they're probably document scans, so the JPEG/TIFF compression
would keep the file size down.

Since there's nothing in the procedure browser that seems to deal with
multipage TIFFs, I'm not sure GIMP can be scripted to deal with them
though.  Some time ago, I looked at extending what was exposed to the
procedure browser but I couldn't really make heads or tails of it.

Hmm - how about getting ImageMagick to just split the TIFFs into
individual files, then running the batch plug-in or your own script?

Chris

PS - I'm a freelancer and dabble in a bit of everything.  Feel free to
contact me off-list if you'd want to hire me to look into it for you.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tips for digitising/tracing image with GIMP?

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 Do you think GIMP is suitable for this kind of image analyses? Or should I
 use a vector based program like Inkscape?

[...]But you might alo be able to do the tracing to paths in gimp
 and then iterate over the paths using the gimp-get-vector-points and
 friends (see help-procedure browser in gimp and search for vector)

A simple starting point:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/17235

I'd go with a vector editor rather than use paths in GIMP though.
Path tool in GIMP is nice, path tool in Inkscape is nicer ;)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Convert to CMYK Mode

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Doug Reynolds
dreyno...@tripleplayint.com wrote:
 How do I convert to CMYK mode?  It is a requirement for a banner I need to
 get printed.

 I go to Image-Mode and select a CMYK profile but it just prints an error
 'Destinatin Profile is not for FGB coloe Space' when I press OK.

You'll need to use a plug-in:
http://registry.gimp.org/node/471

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Where/How to post bugs for Gimp 2.9?

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Elle Stone l.elle.st...@gmail.com wrote:
 But if no-one is interested in having a plain old every day user give
 feedback on how Gimp 2.9 is working, then that means I don't need to
 worry about figuring out how to make bug reports. Either way is fine
 with me.

Unless you've pulled current code from git and compiled it, there is
no Gimp 2.9.  The current release version is 2.8, which recently
replaced 2.6.  I would imagine those are the two versions that you're
running side-by-side.  Use Help-About to verify.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Where/How to post bugs for Gimp 2.9?

[Chris Mohler]

Ah, well - I was wrong then ;)

I suspect that there will be quite a bit of breakage as work in git
progresses.  But if you've found what appear to be a bug (or bugs), it
might be a good idea to post to the gimp-devel mailing list to see if
it's a known issue, or something that should be filed against git
master.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:44 PM, stephen for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 I created a jigsaw puzzle from an image.  All the pieces exist in different 
 layer.

 Is there a way to get the position of the pieces (a script or a menu 
 command)?  I realize I could use the ruler, however, I would like something 
 that would be more exact and less tedious.

With only one image open, from the python-fu console:

img = gimp.image_list()[0]

for layer in img.layers:
print layer.name, layer.offsets

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Chris Mohler cr33...@gmail.com wrote:
 I created a jigsaw puzzle from an image.  All the pieces exist in different 
 layer.

 Is there a way to get the position of the pieces (a script or a menu 
 command)?  I realize I could use the ruler, however, I would like something 
 that would be more exact and less tedious.

 With only one image open, from the python-fu console:

 img = gimp.image_list()[0]

 for layer in img.layers:
    print layer.name, layer.offsets

I was curious to see how the forum has hooking to the mailing list
these days, and I'm sad to report that it munged the spacing on that
psuedo-code.  You'd be better off subscribing to the mailing list
directly.  Anyway, it should be like:

img = gimp.image_list()[0]

for layer in img.layers:
INDENTprint layer.name, layer.offsets

Where INDENT means indent via Tab key or spaces.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

[Chris Mohler]

Well, I give up.  The forum ate that too.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a script to output position of images within image.

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 8:11 PM, stephen for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Thanks, I'll do that.

Also you can do stuff like this in the console:

dir(gimp)

img = gimp.image_list()[0]
dir(img)

etc.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] The only problem with default brushes/resources . . .

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Richard Gitschlag
strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote:
 2 - Better yet, instead of locking down all the Editor's controls, have GIMP
 give you a prompt asking if you want to Duplicate the resource first (or
 even do that automatically) when you try to tweak its settings.

+1 - Touching the brush settings on a default brush should create a
duplicate w/o further interaction IMHO.  This preserves the default
resource and also makes changing settings easily discoverable:
win-win.

What says the UI guru?

0.02,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Richard Gitschlag
strata_ran...@hotmail.com wrote:
 You should be saving your .xcf file first, THEN save the PNG copy of it.
 Priorities :)

Indeed.  I also try to Save As every hour or so and bump up the
version of the XCF.  Disk space is cheap ;)

But mistakes can happen, particularly when under a punishing deadline.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

[Chris Mohler]

On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Jay Smith j...@jaysmith.com wrote:
 c) The developers UTTERLY FAILED to manage public relations on this.  It was
 completely obvious to me (from monitoring the discussions on the developer
 list) that this subject was going to touch of an enormous storm of anger
 among some users.

I don't think this is accurate.  I've seen quite a lot of PR and news
items over the 2.6-2.8 time period, some of which did cover the new
Save/Export functions, IIRC and not just on the dev list.

Having written some really basic in-house programs, my anecdotal
evidence suggests that almost *any* change will cause at least some
portion of the users to hate you ;)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Daniel Smith opened...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can I ask if this decision to go to export vs. save, is it somewhat based
 around needs of people running gimp without the interface, as a server
 component?

No - it has to do with these two items, specifically:

http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/GIMP_UI_Redesign#product_vision
http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification

For myself, export/overwrite still seems clumsy when working on
simple, one-off edits.  OTOH, I no longer have to worry about
accidentally flattening my 10-layer composition when saving a PNG and
then forgetting to resave as XCF.  I'm thinking the long-term gain of
not having to recreate hours of work is a big enough carrot that I can
bear the stick of forced overwrite/export.  I'm still getting used to
it though, and who knows - maybe export/overwrite can be refined a
bit.

Just my 0.02 to keep the flame war moving along nicely ;)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP question

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 1:24 PM, brad stevenson bstevenso...@yahoo.com wrote:
 i am trying to save a 'template' design with the picture and the bulk of the
 text, hoping to then be able to reopen the project and edit the text
 to change the name for each card.

Save your template file as .XCF format (GIMP's native file format).

That will preserve things like text layers.

Then open your XCF, make needed changes, and then 'Save As...' or
'Export' to the format needed for printing.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] How can I create huge billboard sized files in super high dpi?

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
  I am printing super high res images onto fabric. My print guy has
 instructed me to create my images in 1440 dpi

 I think he meant 144 dpi, which is a common resolution used for colour
 images in print.

 If the thread count of the fabric is 200 or higher (e.g. a high-end
 sheet or a silk shirt) it'd plausibly take twice the thread count or
 more, but I'd say try a sample at 144dpi.

And if the final product is to be viewed at some great distance (eg, a
billboard) then 144 DPI may be higher than required.  We did a 30ft/9m
long banner some time ago that worked out fine at 75 DPI - we could
likely have gone lower, since it was so far off the ground.

But yeah - I doubt you could tell the difference between _any_ fabric
printed at 200 DPI and anything higher, even up close.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Crop to oval?

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 For your question, I don't know of a way to do this without the use of
 layers.

 Fast and simple:

Faster, simpler:

Make your oval selection
Press [CTRL]+[i]
Press [Delete]

And as others have pointed out, you may with to feather the selection
- but this is the shortest path to your goal.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Why does saves as JPG default to quality 85?

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Liam R E Quin l...@holoweb.net wrote:
 Maybe it would be less confusing to make the numbers go from 0 to 255 or
 something. Then 255 would be 100% of the allowed value.

I can hear the wailing and gnashing of users now: I followed the
tutorial exactly and saved the final JPEG at 85 quality but now it
looks terrible!!!1! ;)

And then the brains exploding when explaining that 85 is 33% of 255.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Felicitations...

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Robert Bruyns vulgi-va...@hotmail.com wrote:
 There are, of course, changes I'd like to see such as moving the
 magnification facility from the bottom of the image to the top.

The first thing I do upon firing up GIMP for the first time:

Open Edit-Keyboard Shortcuts.

Expand the 'View' list.

Scroll down to 'Zoom In' (view-zoom-in), click it.

Press the = key (this is next to the minus key on my keyboard, along
the top row of numbers).

Press 'Close' button on the dialog.

After that I can use the -/= keys at the top of the keyboard to zoom
in/out, and also the -/+ keys on the number pad to the right.  Without
the steps above the number pad works, but using the keys at the top,
you must use SHIFT-= to zoom in and - to zoom out.

HTH,
Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Felicitations...

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 By default, you can also use Control+mouse wheel to zoom in and
 out.  That's my favorite...

Alas, no wheel on my wacom pen/tablet ;)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Web development question?

[Chris Mohler]

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 Others may know uses for png that I am not aware of, but so far I
 have found no use for it in web design.

PNG is quite useful for some effects.  Say I wanted a div element to
have a gradient background - I could create a new image that's 1px
wide by the height of my div, add a gradient, export as PNG.  Then the
css would be something like:

div { background: url(/path/to/png/file) repeat-x }

..and all divs would have a gradient background, using one tiny file
(and even IE6 will comply). Quite useful for things like faux drop
shadows, rounded corners, etc. too (but newer CSS techniques are
arguably better/easier).

My general rule is: photograph - JPEG, icon/effect -PNG.  As with
every rule, there are exceptions ;)

Anyhoo, there are tons of uses for PNG in web design.  Check out a
Joomla template sometime - most of those do a crazy amount of styling
using PNG files.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Zigzag edges - visual tutorial is online

[Chris Mohler]

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 This is a version 0.1 effort, but it should get the job done until
 I get around to tweaking things some.

Nice!

IMO - the last steps might be:

 - Save as XCF for future use
 - Copy paste each texture to new layer
 - Export each as JPEG/PNG

0.02 - nice explanation though :)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Copyright and brushes, fonts - was Help

[Chris Mohler]

On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Steve Kinney ad...@pilobilus.net wrote:
 Beware of free download fonts.

Dafont.com is a good source for truly free fonts.

Some are marked Personal Use Only, however this is almost unenforceable*.

The whole area of typeface licensing is murky as hell.  For example, I
have a fully-licensed copy of Akzidenz-Grotesk Pro - but that is a
typeface originally designed in the 1890s and in no sane society
should require any sort of license!  And then there are all the
knock-offs: due to a quirk in the laws* concerning typefaces, one can
extract the glyphs, create a new font with those glyphs, and then
distribute it.  The 'README' in the font's zip file may or may not be
truth.  In short: tracking the legality of a specific typeface is
hellish at best, and sometimes near-impossible.

I try to spend my time designing these days, and not worrying about
font licenses.  Out of necessity, I have several large commercial
libraries - but I try to use free fonts whenever possible.  I also use
free (open source) software whenever possible - but again, out of
necessity, I also use Adobe's products as well (those are licensed
too, in case any of the jack-boots of the BSA are reading).

The BSA only needs an excuse - if they raid you, they WILL find a
violation.  So kids: encrypt your hard drives and keep your heads down
;)

Chris

*IANAL, this is not legal advice ;)

PS - the BSA is the most compelling argument I've ever seen for
running an all-linux shop ;)  Ask Ernie Ball about them sometime...
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Re: [Gimp-user] An introduction and some questions

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Mark Peng mark.p...@kupaworld.com wrote:
 We don't intend to sell it for profit or charge extra for the service of
 installing it.  The goal here is to preinstall it on the system since so
 many of our customers like it and ask us why we don't include it in the
 first place.

IANAL either, but pre-installing should almost certainly be OK, as
long as you direct any requests for the source code to the project
site - IE, if any of your customers ask for the source code, you can
either provide it yourself or a link to the downloads on gimp.org.

In other words: go nuts, install away! ;)  The only thing you're
really forbidden from is making changes to the GIMP program and not
making those changes available to others.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Crash

[Chris Mohler]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:16 PM, Destiny Bottino desbo...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I was recently working on a big project of mine using GIMP. I had spent 5
 hours straight working on it, saving it every 5 minutes

Personally, after a couple of hours or so of work (in any graphics
program), I usually do a File-Save As and append a number to the
filename.  So if I start a project, I'll save it as something like
my_project_01.xcf, then after a while save as my_project_02.xcf -
that way even if I close or crash GIMP I have a series of 'snapshots'
of the project I can go back to if needed.  This has saved me from
disaster more than once - I've seen everything from lightning strikes
to pets eating power cords, not to mention pilot error ;)

OTOH, I hardly ever crash GIMP - you definitely should try and track
down the cause of those crashes also.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tweaking performance

[Chris Mohler]

On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 8:21 AM,  jfrazie...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 The image will be a map(as in fantasy world map) I want to print(will scale 
 down for web version to .jpeg), 36x24 inches @300 DPI, so 10800x7200 
 resolution(ie, poster print size).

Another thought - if you can divide the image up into quadrants for
some of the multi-layer work, then combine them later into one image
that may help some (but of course that may be a pain as well).

But yes - get as much RAM installed as your machine can handle.

Chris
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