Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-24 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 10:40:47 +0200 > From: si...@budig.de > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated? > > Richard Gitschlag (strata_ran...@hotmail.com) wrote: > > Okay, then what purpose does the "Save a copy&qu

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-24 Thread Rob Antonishen
>> Adding this shortcut would train users to use a workflow with an >> artificial stumbling block inbetween > > Okay, then what purpose does the "Save a copy" command do these days when > from the user's perspective the ONLY difference between it and "Export" is > the target file format? I sug

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-24 Thread Simon Budig
Richard Gitschlag (strata_ran...@hotmail.com) wrote: > Okay, then what purpose does the "Save a copy" command do these days > when from the user's perspective the ONLY difference between it and > "Export" is the target file format? I suggested it once that the > former should now be treated as a v

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-23 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 18:19:29 +0200 > From: si...@budig.de > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated? > > Richard Gitschlag (strata_ran...@hotmail.com) wrote: > > > there is something we can do to help th

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Simon Budig
Richard Gitschlag (strata_ran...@hotmail.com) wrote: > > there is something we can do to help the non-pro - and it does not > > interfere with the "professionals" workflow it probably will be > > considered and added. > > ...like taking the existing warning and giving it an "Export/Cancel" > choic

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 11:05:37 -0300 > From: gwid...@mpc.com.br > To: ale...@gmail.com > CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated? > > And it is really that: not any o f the other fantastic features > included in GI

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Richard Gitschlag
> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:29:59 +0200 > From: si...@budig.de > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated? > > Hi Alessia. > > Alessia (ale...@gmail.com) wrote: > > I'm really asking because I'm not pr

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Alessia
Ken Warner ha scritto: The paradigm for saving work was figured out and became a standard action years ago. New; Open; Save; Save As; have all the functionality that is needed. Along with a few carefully thought out warning dialogs -- that's all that is needed. If one is really concerned about

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Alessia
Joao S. O. Bueno ha scritto: On 21 August 2012 10:12, Alessia wrote: Alexandre Prokoudine ha scritto: Sorry if I jump in the discussion so out of nowhere ( I'm currently reading it because I use Gimp even if I'm not a professional). I can understand your ( I mean your and developers') reasons,

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Ken Warner
The paradigm for saving work was figured out and became a standard action years ago. New; Open; Save; Save As; have all the functionality that is needed. Along with a few carefully thought out warning dialogs -- that's all that is needed. If one is really concerned about losing work, one shoul

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 21 August 2012 10:12, Alessia wrote: > Alexandre Prokoudine ha scritto: > > Sorry if I jump in the discussion so out of nowhere ( I'm currently reading > it because I use Gimp even if I'm not a professional). > I can understand your ( I mean your and developers') reasons, even if in the > case

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread maderios
On 08/21/2012 03:12 PM, Alessia wrote: I'm really asking because I'm not pro and I don't want to became but I'm, say, an amateur that us, for now, GImp in quite basic way ( or better in a purpose oriented way) and this thing of the exporting behavior is quite annoying ( to me) especially becaus

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Alessia
Simon Budig ha scritto: Hi Alessia. Alessia (ale...@gmail.com) wrote: I'm really asking because I'm not pro and I don't want to became but I'm, say, an amateur that us, for now, GImp in quite basic way ( or better in a purpose oriented way) and this thing of the exporting behavior is quite anno

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Simon Budig
Hi Alessia. Alessia (ale...@gmail.com) wrote: > I'm really asking because I'm not pro and I don't want to became but > I'm, say, an amateur that us, for now, GImp in quite basic way ( or > better in a purpose oriented way) and this thing of the exporting > behavior is quite annoying ( to me) espec

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Jim Clark
:        gimp-user-list@gnome.org Date:        08/21/2012 08:12 AM Subject:        Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated? Sent by:        gimp-user-list-boun...@gnome.org I just summarized the common responses to concerns about the Save/Export redesign. Personally, I'll be sti

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Alessia
Alexandre Prokoudine ha scritto: Paul, As for "closing doors to the masses", here is an example. I'm in the process of interviewing a free software developer who does software, where each release is downloaded like 400 times. Around the globe. And there are, like, 2 releases a year. Yet the gu

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Ken Warner
I just summarized the common responses to concerns about the Save/Export redesign. Personally, I'll be sticking with 2.6 until the current crop of developers move on to some more rewarding tasks and are replaced by more agile and reasonable people. On 8/20/2012 8:49 AM, Paul Naude wrote: Tha

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Paul Naude wrote: > Thanks for the reply Ken > > It sounds like you received such a reply once and if that indeed is true, it > is very sad, because when we start closing doors to the masses, we are on > our way to become isolated and later forgotten, regardless of

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-21 Thread Paul Naude
Thanks for the reply Ken It sounds like you received such a reply once and if that indeed is true, it is very sad, because when we start closing doors to the masses, we are on our way to become isolated and later forgotten, regardless of what great things we might have accomplished. I would hate t

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Richard Gitschlag
gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated? > > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Paul Naude wrote: > > Hi Gimpers > > > > I only recently upgraded to 2.8 from 2.6 and was wondering if I am the only > > one missing the option to edit

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 20.08.2012 18:10, Ken Warner wrote: You will be told to use other image manipulation software because GIMP is now only for professionals that Save XCF files. And you will be told in no uncertain terms that the decision to make GIMP only save XCF files is well documented (so how can there be a

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Ken Warner
Like I said On 8/20/2012 9:04 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote: On 20.08.2012 16:36, Ken Warner wrote: You will be told to use other image manipulation software because GIMP is now only for professionals that Save XCF files. And you will be told in no uncertain terms that the decision to make

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Ken Warner
You will be told to use other image manipulation software because GIMP is now only for professionals that Save XCF files. And you will be told in no uncertain terms that the decision to make GIMP only save XCF files is well documented (so how can there be any question of the propriety of that

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread maderios
On 08/20/2012 10:30 AM, Paul Naude wrote: Hi Gimpers I only recently upgraded to 2.8 from 2.6 and was wondering if I am the only one missing the option to edit the file extension in the SAVE form which basically allowed you to Save, Save Copy, Save As or Export to any format from the same form?

Re: [Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Paul Naude wrote: > Hi Gimpers > > I only recently upgraded to 2.8 from 2.6 and was wondering if I am the only > one missing the option to edit the file extension in the SAVE form which > basically allowed you to Save, Save Copy, Save As or Export to any format > f

[Gimp-user] Save, Save As and Export separated?

2012-08-20 Thread Paul Naude
Hi Gimpers I only recently upgraded to 2.8 from 2.6 and was wondering if I am the only one missing the option to edit the file extension in the SAVE form which basically allowed you to Save, Save Copy, Save As or Export to any format from the same form? I also found it strange that if I now open