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Not just the Indian registries but also, many priests in Bombay / Mumbai
hacked (better still dismembered) off the names of individuals when they
came to Bombay to get married. I guess it had something to do with their
modern proclivities, education and bringing order. So, a Maria Otilia Jovita
Dear Teotonio,
I appreciate your response. My point is strictly to do with the priests in
Mumbai, in the recent past (not the entire discretion of priests, as a
collective, but certainly a part of the mass of priests) changing names or
shortening them; and not about individuals changing or
Dear Floriano,
A superb and conscientious post. Well said..
venantius
From: floriano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] Prof. M.S. Kamat - Mauvin Godinho and 'Pursuing
People'sDreams
(The only response I was getting from Prof. Kamat was Yes, yes and yes)
Dear Eddie.
Allow me to answe this one.
Fodri, as we know, is slang in Konkani for vagina as in Fodri-chya (of the /
from the vagina); and would count as Indian. On occasion a term of
endearment among men in bars; the use of which, could result in being
blessed by a direct bottle hit on the
Hey people,
A translation of Lino Durado's, 'Sorry! No Parking Zone.' The original in
Koknani is at the bottom.
Lino,
Good short story -- where you bring various threads together. Interesting
narrative structure.
I had a good time doing thing. Excuse any errors - if so then very minor for
sure.
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Hi Cecil,
It is now referred to as frotteurism (also toucheurism).
The term frottage -- a technique employed to lift textures off tactile
surfaces. continues to be used in art, and was employed extensively by Max
Ernst — the Surrealist.
See below for a more comprehensive reference on Frotteurism :
Dear Mario,
First of all, loved the smileys. Secondly, I have been informed that the
original thread has been closed. I also appreciate the prudent decision and
offering me an opportunity to present my thoughts again.
To clarify, my response was to an earlier post by the writer -- which I
A translation of Jose Salvador Fernandes'
Son'varachim Sungttam: Gõykarancho Otmo!
I have stayed on the side of the literal since it gives a better flavor of
the rhythm and pace of the Konknni language.
venantius j pinto
The Goan Soul (The Soul of Goans)
-- Jose Salvador
Dear Augusto,
Absolutely brilliant and reflective, right down to the application of the
appelation of bhinktam to so-called respectable families. Genius.
Venantius
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:57:01 +0530
From: augusto pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Goanet] 28 Years After: An Olympic Gold -
I have translated this poem for Goans, contemplating the rain in their towns
in Goa and in their hearts. Thank you Lino Durado for your advice.
Hanvem, hea kovitecho onkar kela Goeankarank thain, je vichar kortat zo paus
zhotta to Goeanche ganvani ani ap aplea kallzani. Lino Durado, tumi bud dili
Hi Selma, hi people,
A quick email from Narita airport.
I am not sure about precise origins being located in other languages, but
the word for sail in Portuguese is vela; for sailing its is navigatao
(accent marks omitted); sailor is marinheiro, and for journey it is viagem,
and for ship its
Hey people,
Its seems that there are a few technicalities involving terms.
To my understanding whether one likes it or not, Goans pre-1961 were
Portuguese citizens -- as part of Estado da India. Unless there are shades
in the concept of Portuguese citizenship that I do not understand. I also
read
Dear Hartman de Souza,
You post was most intersesting. From a design and aesthetic(as in a lived
aesthetic) perspective to build a house -- say even in an abandoned or spent
mine requires vision. The only vision these freaks have is to eat where they
defecate. One often thinks, with all that
First of all this is a very pointed briefing from Rajan. Good job.
Secondly people, I know this may sound ridiculous --needless to say but.
perhaps its high time that the people began appyling faeces on the
faces of their retarded sarpanchs. They just may start to understand
on account of the
Regarding the unabashed joy of Indians at Bindra's victory we have to note a
few points. Some of which I read three days ago in a piece by by Shashi
Tharoor the Daily Yomiuri (English ed). Indian victories by and large in any
field are largely by sheer individual effort and determination -- the
Dear UP Kamath,
There is a lot of depth to what you say about Maglorean Catholic women. And
you cannot be faulted one bit. Besides slavery, it is the enslavement as in
the enslaved mind that does one in -- as it appears to have done to the
larger Goan population. I do believe that Goan Hindus
Finally, the first hit on me by a Christian. My bothers the Hindus did so
in the past but realized that I am not after them and never was. They have
been some of the toughest so far. But that is straying just a wee bit from
UP Kamath's points. No problem, no malice.
The way I see it -- what UP
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From: Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chinese victories on the other hand are entirely the
effort of a state system.
Mario observes:
Venantius, you might want to reconsider the word
entirely.
Regardless of how much assistance the state provides
in terms of facilities, coaching
Hi Cecil,
Bretheren does not necessarily and automatically exclude sisteren, although
simplistic arguments have been made from a feminist framework. Note, that
this is no way implies that feminism is anything to be scoffed at. There is
something to be said though of the singular use of bretheren,
I hope those people who made snide remarks about Selma's family speaking in
English are reading this on Goanet. If, their remarks continued even after
being aware that she were a topped in her English classes -- then that says
even more about how we have been colonizing our own minds. This problem
Hi Cecil,
Please excuse my error. I mean the ending ren. Cistern though similar has
a different ending/
venantius
Kyoto. Japan
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From: Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Brethren - archaic and masculine
To: goanet
(The following piece appeared in the Fall 2007 issue of Dekh, the magazine
of Casa de Goa, Lisbon)
Levitating Enclosures, Procellous Washes and Shunted Wagons
Venantius J Pinto
Chintlelem ghodlelem zalear mellelim ghora ietelim aslim. If our thoughts
were to be realized the dead would return
Dear Augusto,
I heard from an armyman of superb wit--he was with the Signals, now deceased
(who took on the Central govt as a cadet at Khadakvasla -- unheard of) that
in the mess one would hear Messieurs and Mesdames (Mess Dames).
Presumably this tickled some of our as yet not so Anglicized
Any Konknnis involved in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) project which went
live today at the European Laboratory of Particle Physics (CERN)?
venantius
If there any Goanetter living in Bhusaval or anyplace else, who knows about
soapstone, and perhaps interested in helping me out.
I am interested in working in soapstone, basically carving Kanji / Nagari /
Siddham characters from which to pull off impressions. This is an area known
as Tenkoku (the
http://www.hindu.com/2007/12/11/stories/2007121155841000.htm
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India in the world: how we see ourselves
Meera Nanda
As many as 90 per cent of us told the Pew pollsters that religion must be
kept separate from government policy. But in reality, how many of us stand
up
Hello All,
Here is a translation of Noman Romi Lipiek, a poem by Basilio Magno's. It
was sent to me by one of our most focussed Goans, and I took it upon myself
to share it further via Goanet -- a translation into English. I am keeping
the word Konknni as opposed to translating it from the Konknni
Hi Gaspar,
All the best at Panos. Say hi to Kanak and Kunda Dixit for me.
venantius
From: Gasper D'souza [EMAIL PROTECTED]
check out my
blog: http://dabblinginmultimedia.blogspot.com
This weekend, I am off to Nepal for a 9-day Panos South Asia workshop on
multimedia content development, starting
Floriano,
Pardon my garbled post, I could have arranged it better. I mean it. I
believe that my incoherence came about on account of my not being sure
(rarely happens, voi, voi) of your rational.
Yes, I was surprised at your response to the mission hand. To say the least,
I was not even there and
Recently I have helped translate a few pieces where references have been
made to the Marathi lobby vs Konknni; about Hindus being smart as opposed to
Christians sleeping, etc. All very true and in no way derogatory, in fact
quite anguished. To reiterate, the point being that none of these in any
Mario,
When I insert em and en dashes I get those question marks. So I use
hyphens and double them up as needed. I use a Mac at work, and
Cecilia's PC at home, on which in any case I do not know how to get
the typographical marks. The software that Goanet uses also does not
allow for diacritics,
Eklean boil marlear durean gai marchi nhoi.
Konknni mhonn'nni
If one kills a bull the other must not kill the cow.
Konknni / Konkani / Concanim proverb
(From Ogrlekh (Editorial) in Vavraddeancho Ixtt, Ank 37 Septembr 13vi
MMVIII).
venantius
From: Mervyn Lobo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Goanet] What To Do In Falling Markets - Off Topic
The?current US?capitalism model is: Privatize the profits, socialize the
losses.
In the above sense, the US system has truly and unabashedly been about
socialism for the rich and wealthy class. A
model is: Privatize the profits, socialize the
losses.
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 10:25:05 -0400
From: Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In the above sense, the US system has truly and unabashedly been about
socialism for the rich and wealthy class. A model that many others countries
have learnt
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Dear Edward,
First of all Selma is correct. Also, many aspects in Christianity
predate Christianity, and through appropriation, Christianity became
the richer (visually and in numbers) for it.
Here is something from the web to get you started on the level of
elaboration you wish for.
Frederick,
Would you know whether 'Romi Lipient Konknni Kors' is essentially the
same as Konknni Mullavo Kors (Konkani Basic Course), published in Nagari in
1991? That one has 35 chapters in Section II. If it is the same, then its a
pity that the Romi version did not come out any earlier. But
Dear John,
I would like to take off from two interesting points which you make in
your note on Konkani.
JM:
masters were kept in the dark when Goans wanted to communicate with each
other, ensuring secrecy in their communications?
You bring to mind
Dear Miguel,
Thanks for the clarification, and for your extended thoughts on the
Abettors of the Unifying. Such knowledge is very helpful, and
provides a historical framework.
I was going to respond separately to the other post on the Kala
Academy and their bakri with the Romi script, but the
In the early 80s, Ariosto struck Our Lady of Dolours Wadala, Mumbai as
a force 10 gale. He began the Rua Youth Centre. Although, I was bit
young, relatively simple, lived east of the tracks, and a bit
gleefully retarded : ) -- I learned a lot from him. But most people
who were helpful in my
What a popot (puns intended)! A book on Christianity! As for me a
petit mort on Goanet -- death by parrot or prick. Now I will have to
read what homegrown genius has to say about atheism through his lens
of Christianity (me with eyes rolling); but I will not be buying the
book. I will wait till it
Dear Joe,
Is it indeed dhobdobo, and upon seeing your correction -- changed my
note to you. It is one of the more common uses of Konkani onomatopoeia
(in animated language). However, nachot nachot cannot be an
onomatopoeic word, since its sound does not create meaning. Even
though it is repeated
I hope that Goans are beginning to get comfortable to stand in
solidarity with the side they believe in. I mean to attend court,
visit it, stand in the gallery, and for all this to be put out to the
masses, analyzed. and ridiculed when imperative. So whether it is a
Vishwas (In Truth) or a Petrus
Ariosto,
I realized that the gale that was you reached Wadala in the 70s and
not in the early 80s. Do excuse my still being in youthful stupor.
venantius
In the early 80s, Ariosto struck Our Lady of Dolours Wadala, Mumbai as
a force 10 gale. He began the Rua Youth Centre. Although, I was bit
Dear Miguel,
I am not sure what the delineation of interest is towards Romi in the
Saraswat community. Are the educators, scientists, doctors, and those
of the highly logical spectrum, comfortable with giving it
consideration, or do they not care a whit? Are the ones who got their
jobs on account
Dear Edward,
That Gibran reference can be inadvertently read too literally. I hope you
were not doing that. It is more of a parable and as such must be approached
in a parabolic way (what goes around comes around scenarios). We did not
choose our births, neither did our parents us, nor were all
No Selma, its not the cost at all. But I hear you. Its the sheer
irritation -- although I am pretty even handed emotionally (at least I
think so) of buying books, and even in a minuscule way helping his
book sell. Also no one should ruin their Christmas. In my world money
is not the issue.
Sadar pranam Anamika,
These discussions are hardly intellectual. They appear as such because
many are happen to be well written. Sohave no fear. On occassion
comments get sarcastic -- in which case ignore those you may find
insulting. Hopefully this will not happen. There are a few who
gravitate
Dear John,
You may have come across the following reference, but its worth
putting it on Goanet.
Once again must go to the Man to get some clarity on Nehru's
relationship with Goa, and his meta-motivation to liberate Goa. I am
not saying that Goa would not have achieved liberation, nor that the
Arjun Eklavya Sadiq-Saldana,
Count me in. — venantius
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If such a
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Onomatopoeia in Konkani is called anukaran utor(utar) ghodop, and
onomatopoeic is anukarnatmak. Its usage is a litle less common these
days. A particular quality of such words is in conveying meaning
through sound. There is also the concept of imitative harmony.
As usual people feel free to
I have not aware of anyone from the HC in London having condemmned the
attack/murder. I hope that someone by now has done just that. If not here
are a few thoughts. Well we Indians talk a lot, but are always caught
wanting even when it comes to making a timely symbolic gesture, and as a
way of
Dear John,
Rock on at 57 yrs and 166 days. Now about the Mauryan empire in 300 BC --
that must have been quite a visually sensual time. Or I would like to
imagine it so! Sculpturesque women expressing their form and ardor in the
Tribhangi position (S-curve) containing their body weight on one
Selma, you are one totally independent minded Goeankarn.
And a tough cookie too -- better yet the toughest bolinha.
Go for it. : )
venantius
V'tius, I'm buying the book anyway.
selma
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in an old book published by Borem Vachop Vistarunchem Kendr (Centro de
Propaganda de Boa Impresensa), Misanvanchi Seminar, Pilar, Goa. I am posting
it here in the spirit of the broader education -- reading Ixtt would
Bhandare,
I believe it would be decent of you to address Pravin directly, as opposed
to an email addressed to Floriano. It would be setting a good example to
this forum.* We must try to control our human frailties towarads the
inadvertent, but when we do slip (whatever the extent) -- to summon up
Follow the link to a Call for Submissions--Adventures in Desiland: A
Collection of Children's Stories
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While at it take a peek at HIMAL, as far as I know the only magazine that
covers SAsia.
venantius
disclaimer: I occasionally illustrate for HIMAL
Has anyone heard of potatoes that grow on hills? Technically a yam, but
different. Scientific name: Dioscorea opposita (genus monocot). I do not
mean potatoes that are humanly planted. Point being, I am curious to know
whether what is known as Yama Imo (Mountain Potato) in Japan -- grow in Goa
or
I agree with your position, except for the part about Churchill as a
statesman.
Although Winston Churchill is considered a statesman by historians, he was
really a spin master or a statesman spin master (my term) -- in our parlance
lokanchya mattear bounre/bounde bounddounc sorlolo (spinning tops
Hi! Martin,
Needless to say, your use of the referential creep is a manner of seeing
oneself as relaxed and easy going. But considering that Goa continues making
news, as a loci for assorted proclivities, including sexual projections
towards children, vulnerables and those who keep to themselves
Hello Bernardo,
Kitne aadmi the -- How many men, How many men (were there)
Your response in jest is funny and reflects on the root cause of dacoity as
resorted to against oppression; the subjugated common man turning into
uncommon opposition. Aam aadmi the, would translate as They were common men,
People,
We have lost Sanny de Quepem, who stirred our imagination by his postings. I
for one was blessed to read them and see his love for Konkani.
As is said, To live in the hearts (and minds) of those we leave behind (to
include Goanetters) is not to die. But we do not control these journeys.
Dear Rajan,
Well put, in no uncertain terms. I do not know what repercussions there will
be if one Party X1 topples, and Party X2 comes in. It looks like it will be
the same until people wake up. It also means that all parties have similar
agendas. Your point about the activists factoring all
Awesome Alexyz. You could be anyones uncle let alone a great, geat
grandfather at least considering that you were the senior-most trekker at
the most recently concluded Indra Hara Pass Trek (14,000 ft. ) from May 11
to 23 rd May 1907, that took off from Dharamshala in Himachal Pradesh. You
are
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Good catch Santosh. Heres an analogy via cricket -- Eknath Solkar at
silly mid-on. You too keep flushing them out, and raking in those
catches.
venantius
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Dear Gabe,
Appreciate this post. I heard sometime back that there was a
documentary either on Pio Gama Pinto, or included him in it -- and had
requested information from Goanetters. But none was forthcoming. If
anyone knows about the availability of this film, please put it out on
Goanet or
Dear Selma,
This is a small jewel of reflectiion! Your articulation of Frida
Kahlo's oeuvre and its resonance with your core being is commendable,
refreshing, and mature. As one who prefers to view the world - the
phenomenological, in the layering and meshing of religion, sexuality
and
All,
What J. Colaco says about the orthographic confusion is true, So, I
have a request to make of Konknni writers on Goanet. I hope you guys
will be a bit forgiving of my massacring Konknni in the Romi, until I
get down with my Romi lipint boroilloi Konknni. : ) Any help is always
appreciated.
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Dear John,
There is a lot of analysis in your post, and you are thinking out
aloud here. Since your concern is to make a correlation, as you see
it, between the tradition of sati and greed -- it would have benefited
from some examples. Furthermore, since you are pointing to sati in
ancient India,
Dear Miguel,
Jeevan and you are doing something very commendable in looking at ways
in which to support Ivana Ivana Maria Furtado's development, in
continuing to have a future in chess. My two bits here, actualy more
than that!
.
The benefactors and sponsors must have a forward thinking and
or greed ... be better
I will be somewhat 'an authority' on the subject by the time I have
gone through all the links, printed them and read them over again.
Venantius Pinto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Dear John,
There is a lot of analysis in your post, and you are thinking out
aloud here
The Archbishop's view should be looked into -- what does it encompass.
I too if I were an Archbishop, would perhaps have said the same, but
would have given reasons, as to why I have to resort to that stance;
as he probably did. No harm in that whatsoever; the Catholic Schools
are a full blown
The following excerpt, is from an opinion piece by Aseem Shrivastava.
Consider reading it at a couple of notches below your normal reading
speed.
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Amartya Sen fails to notice the subsistence economy, and succumbs to
the growth fetish
There was very little on Jazz, in this piece, other than a feel good
approach towards Jazz Utsav. And, one of India's better pianists seems
to have been inadvertently excluded, since the piece is about where
the jazz scene in India currently stands -- vis-a-vis the perception
of when its awakening
Good idea Valmiki.
If this book happens, I would like to be considered as an illustrator.
Of course I would expect to be given the right amount of time. Then we
are talking! I will put some stuff on this in 2008. Gavncho rakkno,
cemeter kodden pursanvan, doyeo voli nesun shoji kodden, etc.
Hi! Nigel,
You said it right there. Cordial. Being cordial is a trait, which
helps one negotiate intearctions and relationships. It is learned and
practiced. And involves choice. So what you said about RCs interacting
with those from completely different faiths, but not being able to do
the same
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