[GreenYouth] Fwd: editorial on Lavalin, of the CPI(ML) Liberation's CPI(ML) Weekly News Magazine

2009-02-14 Thread Murali K Warier
It's (La)valintine's day, so send a message of love to Pinarayi Vijayan :) Vijayettan pinangaruthallo :) -- --- Liberty, if it means anything, is the right to tell people

[GreenYouth] The Politically Correct Dictionary

2009-02-14 Thread Murali K Warier
With Billu Barber becoming just Billu, this may come in handy when you are in a crunch situation. http://www.funny2.com/dictionary.htm Guess a few entries could be added: communist propaganda - political

[GreenYouth] The real reason behind the Mangalore pub attacks

2009-02-04 Thread Murali K Warier
You know, the Sene people were really saving the girls from the jihadis: http://greathindu.com/2009/01/how-media-twisted-mangalore-attack-on-pub-girls/ I am sorry I could not get anybody who can match the academic credentials of Sri Amaresh Mishra. I promise I will try. No guarantees, however.

[GreenYouth] Fwd: Delegation from Pakistan

2009-01-21 Thread Murali K Warier
What about the terror organizers of Samjhota express blasts... Who will prepare the list of suspects and ask the other to handover? India or Pakistan? Or will the list be prepared jointly? The short answer is, India. The Samjhauta blast occurred at a place where the jurisdiction of Indian

[GreenYouth] India, Pak aren't neighbours; they are worlds apart -- M J Akbar

2009-01-21 Thread Murali K Warier
I agree with M J Akbar that India and Pakistan are not neighbors, just two geographically contiguous states. I differ with him on the cause. It is not the '65 war that brought about the division - if there was camaraderie before, why did that war happen at all? Or the one before it? The truth is

[GreenYouth] Re: GAZA

2009-01-17 Thread Murali K Warier
My dear friend, Till now, you or anybody else who commented in this thread haven't addressed any of my points. No wonder of course, the Left's standard response is to attack the person -insinuations, vilification and denigration by association - rather than what he says. I understand your itch

[GreenYouth] Re: GAZA

2009-01-17 Thread Murali K Warier
It is for your benefit, my friend. Since you hate to read opinions that differ from your own, it gives you a cop out. You have the choice of not clicking the link. It saves you the trouble of working up homicidal rage at people who do not honor your views :) Cheers, Murali On Jan 17, 11:34 am,

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: 1.Mumbai Carnage: The Police Story stands Shattered - By Amaresh Misra 2.Acts of terror and Terrorising Act-Unfolding Indian Tragedy

2009-01-17 Thread Murali K Warier
It turns out that this Amaresh Misra is a gentleman whom even some Lefties (by no means all or the majority, of course) can't stand. Here are a few nice words Teesta Setalvad has to say about this gen'lman: http://communalism.blogspot.com/2008/12/amaresh-mishras-web-of-lies.html The people who

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Delegation from Pakistan

2009-01-17 Thread Murali K Warier
With all due respect to the learned academicians, may I ask one thing: whom are they kidding? Can they go beyond platitudes and motherhoods for some specifics? How about asking the Pakistani government to hand over the terror organizers to India? How about dismantling the terror infrastructure,

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: 1.Mumbai Carnage: The Police Story stands Shattered - By Amaresh Misra 2.Acts of terror and Terrorising Act-Unfolding Indian Tragedy

2009-01-17 Thread Murali K Warier
My dear Bobby, There is a 50% chance that a Warrior will be in the Obama team: http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jan2009/tc20090115_815265.htm?campaign_id=rss_daily Here is business opportunity for you: verify her antecedents and see whether her 41st cousin has lived near an

[GreenYouth] GAZA

2009-01-12 Thread Murali K Warier
The Eminent Journalist has thrown down the gauntlet. Since my respect for him is limitless, I have to take some time off to jot down a few things. 1) A nation's engagements with other nations should be conditioned on what the relationship does to its interests. The danger of bringing in such

[GreenYouth] Fwd: Joint Signature Campaign by Citizens of India and Pakistan

2009-01-12 Thread Murali K Warier
After reading the above message, I went into a little *gedankenexperiment*: Imagine, in 1939, a group of French guys along with a few Germans organizing a joint Franco-German signature campaign and a candle light vigil at the Ouvrage Schoenenbourg on the Ligne Maginot, to protest the violence

[GreenYouth] Too Crafty a Neighbor

2009-01-12 Thread Murali K Warier
This is important: ..RAW's covert wing was disbanded long ago by then prime minister IK Gujral and that New Delhi has no capability to help the Baluchis regain their stolen independence. Thank you I K Gujral for this great work. We are now left without *any* option to do anything about Paki

[GreenYouth] Too Crafty a Neighbor

2009-01-12 Thread Murali K Warier
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,599724,00.html *Shouldn't they be allowed to think and say what they please? They believe that jihad is their obligation. Isn't that freedom of opinion? he asks, defending extremist rabble-rousers, who are sending more and more Koran school

[GreenYouth] An Open Letter to Arundhati Roy

2008-12-20 Thread Murali K Warier
http://outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20081219fname=abhinavsid=1* An Open Letter To Arundhati Roy * * To call the foreign funded insurgency in Kashmir and the terror attacks across the country as justified blowback for the failures of the Indian state and civil society is both false and

[GreenYouth] 'The jihadists are dragging us into the Middle Ages' - Rushdie

2008-12-20 Thread Murali K Warier
http://specials.rediff.com/news/2008/dec/19slide1-understanding-the-mumbai-attacks.htm *America has blindly poured billions of dollars into Pakistan after 9/11 and it only strengthened Pakistan's jihadists, with the encouragement of the previous President and military leader Pervez Musharraf, he

[GreenYouth] Pak terror is bribe ruse

2008-12-17 Thread Murali K Warier
Article by Brahma Chellaney http://www.asianage.com/presentation/leftnavigation/opinion/op-ed/pak-terror-is-bribe-ruse.aspx *Pak terror is bribe ruse** * *By Brahma Chellaney* Terrorists are still coming in from Pakistan, India's lumbering external affairs minister lamented in Parliament last

[GreenYouth] The dangerous illusion of independent terrorists

2008-12-17 Thread Murali K Warier
Terrorists are anything but non-state actors http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24757395-5013460,00.html -- --- Liberty, if it means anything, is the right

[GreenYouth] The dangerous illusion of independent terrorists

2008-12-17 Thread Murali K Warier
Poor imagination. Yes bobinson, imagination - that is what objective people lack. After all, not everybody is a fiction writer like Arundhati Roy. Cheers, Murali -- ---

[GreenYouth] Re: The dangerous illusion of independent terrorists

2008-12-17 Thread Murali K Warier
*You* must be very imaginative, bobinson. You started criticizing the article with 'poor imagination' and has now reached 'poor fiction' :) Way to go! -- --- Liberty, if

[GreenYouth] Celebrate good times!

2008-12-17 Thread Murali K Warier
Celebrate good times, come on!http://www.hurryupharry.org/2008/12/16/celebrate-good-times-come-on/ Shabba Goy, December 16th 2008, 6:22 pm Philisophy Football and 21st Century Socialism magazine invite you to join us for three special seasonal events. First up, *Happy Honecker!* [image: Happy

[GreenYouth] GoI 'forgets' Nariman House

2008-12-16 Thread Murali K Warier
Political correctness run amok. Forget for the moment that Israel is one of our most reliable and closest allies. Forget foreign policy. What about basic human decency? 'In his speech to the UNSC asking for the world to ban the Jamaat-ud-Dawa, Ahamed referred to pre-selected targets which

[GreenYouth] Shouldn't we be doing something like this?

2008-12-15 Thread Murali K Warier
We should do something like this to Pakistan. I guess it is very well within our capability :) http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/international/britain-unveils-plan-to-criticise-mugabe-out-of-office--200806231038/ --

[GreenYouth] Re: The Republic of Evil

2008-12-13 Thread Murali K Warier
Dear Bobby, If it is about a heart-warming personal story, let me tell you I don't need one. I am myself a recipient of such warmth and friendship from Pakistanis. In Nice, France. In 2001. It was indeed a great experience to meet a Pakistani family in the vast shopping mall of CAP3000, a

[GreenYouth] Re: Calling a spade a spade - finally

2008-12-08 Thread Murali K Warier
Let Mr Murali K.Warrier keep his efforts in teaching people here, until he cares to unlearn himself! Unfortunately, my power of imagination is not as good as Mr K M Venugopalan's to include such juicy details as a Mossad-RSS nexus in the Rabbi's killing, with a few agents of the RAW and the CIA

[GreenYouth] who the f^^^ is Murali Warrier

2008-12-08 Thread Murali K Warier
My dear Bobby, A little less frothing at the mouth, please. According to the principle of 'falsifiability', it is not possible to prove a negative. So, it is easier for you to prove that I am a neo-nazi than for me to prove that I am not one. Good luck! By the way, the real neo-Nazis

[GreenYouth] Spade by name Communalist

2008-12-08 Thread Murali K Warier
It was an epiphany. A kind of a Eureka moment. I was thinking all evening why all my 'engagements' with the Eminent Journalist - EJ for short, not just because it rhymes with DJ/RJ, it also gives a nice feeling that the EJ is actually somebody who does something useful like the former: as Dale

[GreenYouth] Calling a spade a spade - finally

2008-12-07 Thread Murali K Warier
Fortunately, there are still a few people left who do not mind calling a spade a spade (incidentally, the gruesome torture of Rabbi Holtzberg went almost unnoticed, by the media and the 'commentators', that is): Psychotic terrorists in search of a grievance

[GreenYouth] Calling a spade a spade - finally

2008-12-07 Thread Murali K Warier
Dear Sanjeev, your refernces dosent say anything abt gruesome torture mr murali. is this what the west european psycho analysts call 'transfernce'? it could be that u are transfering your sadistic desires onto the killings at nariman house! This is what I said: incidentally, the gruesome torture

[GreenYouth] Re: The Mumbai Massacres and the Imperialist State of Mind

2008-12-04 Thread Murali K Warier
I have a few more, my friend. But seriously, dear Bobby, do you think that indiscriminate firing on unarmed civilians in rail stations and hotels with automatic weapons is the right way to highlight one's grievances, even legitimate grievances? Why can't people talk about the Mumbai outrage

[GreenYouth] Re: Beena Sarwar on Mumbai attack

2008-12-04 Thread Murali K Warier
I see Sarwar's article as a part of a grand game-plan by the South- Asianists. The objective of the game plan is to get Pakistan 'off the hook'. It is to prevent India from taking any retaliatory measures against the Rogue State. It is advertised as a plan for peace. The strategy is

[GreenYouth] Re: Beena Sarwar on Mumbai attack

2008-12-04 Thread Murali K Warier
Dear Ms Gouri, Thanks for your complements. However, there is one thing I still am unable to fathom, with all the intelligence you attribute to me: why did Amaresh Misra's rants, which could beat the whackiest American UFO lore hands down, get so much credence among Leftists? Is it the

[GreenYouth] Re: The Mumbai Massacres and the Imperialist State of Mind

2008-12-04 Thread Murali K Warier
. And the next... Sorry, I am tired of this tripe about 'friendship'. I am tired of this endless talk about the Mumbai spirit. I get infuriated by the conspiracy mongering. I am irked by the candle holding. I can go on and on. Best regards, Murali PS: About being a 'plant', no Bobby, Murali K

[GreenYouth] The Mumbai Massacres and the Imperialist State of Mind

2008-12-01 Thread Murali K Warier
Reply to William Dalrymple, Yogi Sikander, Tariq Ali and other apologists of terror. (Emphasis added) http://blog.z-word.com/2008/11/the-mumbai-massacres-and-imperialist-states-of-mind/ The Mumbai Massacres And Imperialist States of

[GreenYouth] Re: fwd-please go through this

2008-11-30 Thread Murali K Warier
[For the last few months, I haven't been reading this forum but just checked back the other day to see what the members here have to say about the Mumbai terror strike. I didn't intend to write, but this one forced my hand.] There is a saying in Malayalam, which essentially translates to 'when

[GreenYouth] Re: Beena Sarwar on Mumbai attack

2008-11-30 Thread Murali K Warier
We would certainly do better without the empathy from the Wholesale Manufacturers and Merchants of Terror. On Nov 30, 9:12 am, Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=44902 -- Bobby Kunhuhttp://community.eldis.org/myshkin/Blog/

[GreenYouth] Re: Beena Sarwar on Mumbai attack

2008-11-30 Thread Murali K Warier
And less 'people-to-people-contact' of the kind that was in spectacular display for the last few days, please. On Nov 30, 7:08 pm, Murali K Warier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We would certainly do better without the empathy from the Wholesale Manufacturers and Merchants of Terror. On Nov 30, 9

[GreenYouth] Re: Beena Sarwar on Mumbai attack

2008-11-30 Thread Murali K Warier
Thanks for the heart warming welcome, mate :) No, the financial meltdown is still in the pipeline, as far as I am concerned. I, as a citizen of this country is entitled to have any opinion about our western neighbor. It is the duty of the people who run this country to engage with it. After all,

[GreenYouth] Re: Beena Sarwar on Mumbai attack

2008-11-30 Thread Murali K Warier
Again, core competencies. Still I can suggest a few simple things (amateurish at best): 1) Recognize the fact that our Western neighbor do not have our best interests at heart 2) Don't bail them out with statements like 'they too are victims of terror'. It is black karma after all. 3) Nothing

[GreenYouth] Re: fwd-please go through this

2008-11-30 Thread Murali K Warier
Are you advocating that we elect Modi as the next PM No. Will it be fair for us to assume that you were behind the Mumbai carnage pal? Hardly on evidence, my friend. Sorry :) But this seems to be the 'logic' used by many journalists ('eminent' or otherwise). As a side note, I have been

[GreenYouth] Re: Beena Sarwar on Mumbai attack

2008-11-30 Thread Murali K Warier
for those people who landed on the Mumbai shores on hijacked trawlers the other day? All regards for you, mate :) Murali On Nov 30, 8:34 pm, Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/11/30 Murali K Warier [EMAIL PROTECTED] --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

[GreenYouth] Re: arundhati roys briefing

2008-07-21 Thread Murali K Warier
The Outlook article says *Arundhati Roy's first work of fiction since The God of Small Things in 1997 *Means they haven't read her other great works of fiction like Algebra of Infinite Justice, Greater Common Good etc? :) Best regards, Murali. --

[GreenYouth] Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
Your monthly dose of undiluted neo-liberalism! Enjoy maadi! http://pragati.nationalinterest.in/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/pragati-issue16-jul2008-communityed.pdf -- ---

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
This is so out to lunch that I am constrained to respond: Islam preaches to respect others' feelings, religion and their gods. If so, why so much disrespect is shown to others' feelings, religion and gods in *practice*, almost everywhere Islam is in a powerful position? Or is it that there is

[GreenYouth] Re: International award for Kancha Ilaiah's Why I am Not a Hindu

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
the prestigious London Institute of South Asia international award Irony? Or 'irony deficiency'? :) On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:13 PM, venukm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
:) C'mon, age is in the mind :) (or so console oneself :) On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 2:47 PM, damodar prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/1/08, Murali K Warier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Damodar, Yep, I know the PDF is a bit heavy, especially *on older machines.* ;-) There is a web

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
Yes, you are right. On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 4:44 PM, Afthab Ellath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The most appropriate point to start reading the Indian national Interest... --

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
I believe we should let him talk, propaganda will always work on its own terms and needs to be countered as such Thank Bobby and the heavens for small mercies! :) Best regards, Murali On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 10:54 PM, Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
It should not be unethical in publishing things which might be hurtful to any community in this world. Then the papers should contain only one column: for the weather. No, there are enough touchies out there who would be offended by the weather report too. Why not do away with newspapers

[GreenYouth] Re: Pragati Magazine July 2008 Edition

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
I can only thank you, mate :) On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: a half-ignorant propagandist is the best that can asked for to kill something, so I will be always willing to oblige you Murali, as long as you continue spewing inanities --

[GreenYouth] Re: Breaking the Monolith

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
'Inflammatory discourse (as giving offense)' too should be covered under freedom of speech. Isn't it easy enough to distinguish between offensive speech and incitement to violence? The former is ok, the latter, not, of course. Saying 'your religion sucks' is ok, but saying 'go out and kill put

[GreenYouth] Re: FOURTH ESTATE CRITIQUE Re: Who is a mallu

2008-07-01 Thread Murali K Warier
Tell us how it worked for you It didn't work for me for the simple reason that I never tried it! On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 9:55 AM, damodar prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I understand. Tell us how it worked for you damodar --

[GreenYouth] Re: International award for Kancha Ilaiah's Why I am Not a Hindu

2008-06-30 Thread Murali K Warier
all the time educating the great unwashed from the Third World how nasty a Satan Uncle Sam really is. Not to mention how bad Capitalism really is - look at how we the unfortunate ones condemned to live in the States are suffering. Never fall prey to the seductions of this venomous ideology! --

[GreenYouth] Re: Gujjar fire - blood on their heads

2008-06-29 Thread Murali K Warier
do not engage with debates with arrogantly meritorious upper caste fools, please refrain from addressing mails to me Thanks On 28/05/2008, Murali K Warier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[GreenYouth] Re: International award for Kancha Ilaiah's Why I am Not a Hindu

2008-06-29 Thread Murali K Warier
Congrats to Illaiah and the translator too. Any recognition is good. But for some of the pathologically skeptic, it may not be. Of course, there is nothing illegal in breathing fire and brimstone on Capitalism every living moment and then go on to enrich your pocket book with a fat award from Man

[GreenYouth] Re: Secularism on the Dock - What the Karnataka election results mean

2008-05-28 Thread Murali K Warier
As the commentators before rightly concluded, BJP's victory has more to do with other parties' follies than their own communal campaign. In fact, the BJP lost two important state elections immediately after the Babri demolition. In Karnataka at least, there was absolutely no communal campaign this

[GreenYouth] Re: Gujjar fire - blood on their heads

2008-05-28 Thread Murali K Warier
Nonetheless, I do not want to engage in an argument on this since you have betrayed with this post your absolute lack of awareness (which forms part of the privileged caste zeitgeist) on caste hegemony and the history of the same in various parts of India The blog's fundamental argument was

[GreenYouth] Gujjar fire - blood on their heads

2008-05-28 Thread Murali K Warier
The blogger is right: the chatterati is maintaining a disturbing silence over this. Even in this forum, which should have bee abuzz, there is not a single discussion. Not even the usual charge of 'state terrorism' is being thrown, in spite of the fact that dozens died in police firing in a BJP

[GreenYouth] Re: Gujjar fire - blood on their heads

2008-05-28 Thread Murali K Warier
If you think you can discuss reservations on a cost-benefit format without understanding caste hegemonies (which I am doubly sure of now), you are betraying your not just naivete, but arrogant naivete Whether it is appropriate to 'discuss reservations on a cost-benefit format without

[GreenYouth] Re: Secularism on the Dock - What the Karnataka election results mean

2008-05-28 Thread Murali K Warier
Please do read local newspapers once in a while, where you might come across Baba Budangiri in Chikmagalur or Idgah Maidan in Hubli My reference was to this particular election. The communal campaign was conspicuous by its absence. BJP owes its victory in a large measure to the Gowda clan. The

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [IHRO] Indian Muslims, Terrorism and Sangh Parivar By Saeed Hameed - Rashtriya Sahara, Urdu Daily, Mumbai

2008-05-21 Thread Murali K Warier
Terrorism has a way of coming back to the people in whose name the movement was started. The majority of victims in Punjab were Sikhs. More Muslims have been killed in Kashmir than Hindus. The primary victims of Naxal terrorism are Adivasis, the landless and the poor. That should debunk the myth

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-19 Thread Murali K Warier
Dear Bobby, Thanks for the comments on the Constitution. Let me confess that not being a lawyer or not having studied law even as a hobby, my knowledge in these matters are very inferior. I being a libertarian, believe in the dictum that consequences matter more than intentions. Puniyani

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-19 Thread Murali K Warier
Is it your contention that because you are a libertarian- whatever that might mean to you, that your views are objective - No. It should have been clear from whatever I wrote in the context, which is about consequences vs intentions. just to remind you that despite your confessed ignorance of

[GreenYouth] Re: Samir Amin : The New Challenge of the Peoples' Internationalism

2008-05-19 Thread Murali K Warier
The Charmed Life of Communismhttp://curmudgeonjoy.blogspot.com/2008/05/charmed-life-of-communism.html It should come as a surprise to no one by now to learn that one of the greatest storms of barbarism the world has ever seen, in which much of the cultural heritage of China was destroyed, was met

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-18 Thread Murali K Warier
Constitution is not Gospel. However, Constitution also has checks and balances, but no Constitution is as good as its implementation. However, a belief in constitutional law is an absolute must, fortunately it exists in this country. Otherwise, we would have become another Pakistan. it forecasts

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-18 Thread Murali K Warier
Salwa Judum, originally meant to be a solution, has become part of the problem. Salwa Judum is similar to the proposed 'social audit' in as much as it is an outsourcing of state authority without accountability. Best regards, Murali On Sun, May 18, 2008 at 3:47 PM, Anivar Aravind [EMAIL

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-18 Thread Murali K Warier
it is quite natural for the people who are socially, racially, politically and economically enjoying the rights within the constitutional framework to uphold the 'holiness' of the constitution. Isn't it obvious that the socially, racially, politically and economically disadvantaged require the

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-17 Thread Murali K Warier
Terror apology of course comes in different shades. The branding of anybody who questions the dominant politically correct view on terrorism as Hindu fanatics has skewed the debate in favor of the real fanatics. After all, who in his right senses want to be labeled a Hindutvavadi? RSS might have

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-17 Thread Murali K Warier
Please explain how criticizing the political position of the human rights activists can be 'an outrageous measure of hate'? The conclusions arrived at are based on the analysis of the statement by the 'human rights' activists themselves. Nowhere does the blogger make any statements favouring

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-17 Thread Murali K Warier
Is your problem with the State using violence or using unlawful or unconstitutional violence? If it is the first, I can't agree with you. The state has and only the State has the normative right to use force against non-state actors (and state-actors, if the need be), the application of which is

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Jaipur Statement

2008-05-17 Thread Murali K Warier
I find this statement of the professor interesting: *One also recalls Supreme court decisions to shift the cases out of Gujarat, indicating that all is not hunky and dory as far as our systems are concerned.* That also indicates that the system could correct itself, and is not hopelessly

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-17 Thread Murali K Warier
This 'liberal democratic' logic has got one intrinsic predicament: The armed forces should not seize state power, but it's head can, * constitutionally. *So what? There is a long distance from 'can' to 'will', at least for India. I think this debate lay bare the caste-community configuration of

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-17 Thread Murali K Warier
but, somebody imagines the 'absolute' justice derived from the constitution and advocates for the flawless police/ military actions to maintain the law and order rejecting all civil society initiatives to observe the accountability of the state, has clear dominant class-race politics. Where is

[GreenYouth] Re: After terrorists, their apologists strike (was: Jaipur Blasts Statement)

2008-05-15 Thread Murali K Warier
http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/15/after-terrorists-their-apologists-strike/#more-2897 After terrorists, their apologists strikehttp://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/15/after-terrorists-their-apologists-strike/ *Can human rights activists be far behind?* We know the routine.

[GreenYouth] Re: UN body slams India on rights of gays

2008-05-13 Thread Murali K Warier
It is indeed heartening to note that the UN Human Rights Council has taken note of India's shameless treatment of alternative sexuality. It is good that this august body has decided to slam India on this. We must also thank the UN body for magnanimously sending their 'special rapporteur', Ms Asma

[GreenYouth] Re: Women Are Being Beheaded for Taking Their Veil Off: Honor Killings On Rise in Iraq

2008-05-06 Thread Murali K Warier
Apparently not. That's why Ahmedinejad, the Hamas, Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez all become front runners in the 'anti-imperialistic' struggle. After all, 'we were all Hezbollah' for a week or so, weren't we? Best regards, Murali On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 1:08 PM, damodar prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[GreenYouth] Re: Movement and NGOs

2008-05-04 Thread Murali K Warier
Let me add this one comment, perhaps the last in this thread: Sainath's problem is not that he frames issues in an ideological frame work. Nor is it that he sensationalizes issues way beyond the limits. The issue is that he dishes out wrong data and outright lies as eternal truth :

[GreenYouth] Re: Movement and NGOs

2008-05-03 Thread Murali K Warier
You dont need to read the NSS or Economic Survey of India or the annual UNDP Human development report, just read any newspaper regularly and you find stories of food crisis across the world post neo-liberalism. It hs become acute especially now.. Again, where is the causality? Food crises and

[GreenYouth] Re: Movement and NGOs

2008-05-02 Thread Murali K Warier
To claim Swami Aiyar's credentials based on his Oxonian MA smacks of colonial hangover and academic snobbery. To claim Swami Aiyar's credentials based on his Oxonian MA smacks of colonial hangover and academic snobbery. Sorry, you don't seem to have read what I wrote: *At any rate, I value him

[GreenYouth] Re: GPramachandran against Grand Anti Communist Alliance!!

2008-05-02 Thread Murali K Warier
Afthab Sahib, Forget for the moment that the Communist offenders make the Westerners look like Gandhis. Why should the West's crime be a shield for Communist atrocities? Best regards, Murali. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:50 PM, Afthab Ellath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought I was listening

[GreenYouth] Re: GPramachandran against Grand Anti Communist Alliance!!

2008-05-02 Thread Murali K Warier
Neither - 'Communist offenders', I said. On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Bobby Kunhu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you suggesting that people should be tried for believing in communism or trying to practice it? Sounds as dangerous as McCarthyism, witch-hunting and the Crusades to me.

[GreenYouth] Re: Press Statement by Association of Parents of Disappeared Persons

2008-05-02 Thread Murali K Warier
I didn't say that I don't know or have no comments, if that is what you imply, but take any issue, there are sufficient number of 'well educated', 'computer literate' people who do not know a thing about it. This is from personal experience. I don't find any difference between 'you have to

[GreenYouth] Re: GPramachandran against Grand Anti Communist Alliance!!

2008-04-28 Thread Murali K Warier
Though not a direct answer to the question, the following comment from Theodore Dalrymple on cultural Marxism, a.k.a Political Correctness is illuminating: *Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of

[GreenYouth] Re: Movement and NGOs

2008-04-04 Thread Murali K Warier
NGOistan is the abdication of the state, and EU is the superstate, that imposes its own system through the back door. EU too in a way represents abdication of the state. Both NGOistan and EU are non-democratic in nature, though the latter has a parliament of sorts. However, the pernicious effects

[GreenYouth] Re: Conventions agianst Private PostMortem

2008-04-04 Thread Murali K Warier
I really don't understand what the objections against 'private postmortem' are. Is it that bodies of the deceased are used as study tools without their consent? Is it the concern that the postmortem results could be manipulated somehow? What difference could postmortems conducted in government

[GreenYouth] Re: Conventions agianst Private PostMortem

2008-04-04 Thread Murali K Warier
Then it is not just denying justice, but is outright illegal. On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Dileep Raj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Post Mortem is a medico---legal action forming part of Police action.as per criminal law, nobody other than Civil surgeon or doctors entrusted by Government have

[GreenYouth] Re: Movement and NGOs

2008-04-04 Thread Murali K Warier
The gape is widening due to these aggressive neo-liberal policies(argusengupta's report on unorganised sector). I often smile it this kind of straw-man attacks on neo-liberalism, which is a regular feature of Leftist discourse. The assumption here is that India has instituted wide ranging

[GreenYouth] Re: Movement and NGOs

2008-04-03 Thread Murali K Warier
Without doubt, NGOistan is a bad idea. So are supra-governments like the EU. Best regards. Murali On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 11:12 AM, C.K. Vishwanath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --

[GreenYouth] Re: women and difference

2008-03-24 Thread Murali K Warier
While I am at a loss to understand how to do away with the values that govern this development paradigm, the least I can hope is that mainstreaming Dalits and Adivasis is going to seriously affect the 10% GDP growth (in any case, its not a true representative of growth of the people) Did you

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: Today: Kodaikanal Chengara struggles

2008-03-07 Thread Murali K Warier
I wonder who gave permission to the factory in the environmentally fragile Palani hills. Hindustan Photo Films was similarly setup in an even more fragile place like the Nilgiris. This is sheer madness. If this had happened in the US, the top executives would be in jail and the company would have

[GreenYouth] Re: Fwd: [GreenYouth] Re: Night Vigil :Chengara

2008-03-06 Thread Murali K Warier
Just watched in Asianet, VS Achuthanandan's statement that the most people involved in the struggle own land and houses. Why can't the government get the right data on this with its machinery? Looks like it doesn't want to. Best regards, Murali On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:43 PM, Dileep Raj [EMAIL

[GreenYouth] Re: Demand Immediate and Unconditional Release of People's March Editor, Com. Govindan Kutty

2007-12-31 Thread Murali K Warier
People's March is an independent revolutionary paper. It supports all revolutionary movements including the Maoist movements in India, Nepal and elsewhere. It is interesting that a weekly that supports anti-democratic, anti-national terrorist movements like the Maoists is seeking refuge under

[GreenYouth] India’s socialist mandate to be challe nged in Supreme Court

2007-12-06 Thread Murali K Warier
Finally a legal challenge to a law that forces every political party to either swear by an indefensible ideology or to lie through their teeth: http://www.livemint.com/2007/12/06001031/India8217s-socialist-mandat.html Best regards, Murali --

[GreenYouth] Re: A Statement from scholars on Nandigram

2007-11-29 Thread Murali K Warier
In the interests of balanced reporting, which The Hindu never ceases to espouse... I wonder where this gentleman got this impression from. The Hindu has never espoused balanced reporting. The ideological blinkers had been in place all along (at least since N Ram took over). For example, a recent

[GreenYouth] Re: A Statement from scholars on Nandigram

2007-11-24 Thread Murali K Warier
The only amusing thing in this sordid drama unfolding in Nandigram is the rift in the Left 'parivar'. It's schadenfreude time for 'evil neo-liberals' like me :) (with respect to the rift of course, not the gore). What the scholars essentially say is that, it is ok to hush up Nandigram because we

{greenyouth} Re: Fwd: {greenyouth} On terror, a policy of evasion-Article In IE,By Tavleensingh

2007-10-23 Thread Murali K Warier
On the contrary, they disbelieve these stories just for the reasons you mentioned; reasons originating from politics and ideology. Does this mean that, the 'fact of the matter', logic etc. are secondary and politics alone is the key? Thanks for pointing this out - that this indeed is the case is

{greenyouth} India's growth is widely inclusive

2007-10-23 Thread Murali K Warier
9% GDP growth is widely inclusive *By Swaminathan S. Anklesaria Aiyar* The leftist critics are right when they say India's record GDP grow-th is bypassing rural millions. This tragedy arises from massive government failure to provide decent education and infrastructure to every village despite

{greenyouth} On terror, a policy of evasion

2007-10-21 Thread Murali K Warier
http://www.indianexpress.com/story/230661.html* * *On terror, a policy of evasion* ** Tavleen Singh *Posted online: Sunday, October 21, 2007 at hrs IST * It so happens that shortly before the terrorist attack on Benazir Bhutto's homecoming procession in Karachi last week, I met a

{greenyouth} Re: Fwd: {greenyouth} On terror, a policy of evasion-Article In IE,By Tavleensingh

2007-10-21 Thread Murali K Warier
Why are the acts of terror by the RSS not seen among the realities? If you haven't noticed it, the article is about terrorism. The RSS's activities, howsoever deplorable, doesn't come under the definition of 'terrorism'. Even the most rabid elements of the Bajrang Dal do not manufacture bombs,

{greenyouth} Re: Fwd: fwded msge: Hindu Janjagruti Exhibition,Goa: Time To Sit Up And Take Note

2007-10-21 Thread Murali K Warier
the maninderjit singh bitta that the above report mentions is the same youth congress leader who played an important role in facilitating SP Gill's covert action against terrorism So fighting and defeating terrorism in Punjab was a bad thing, right? I am not a fan of Bitta - he is one of the

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