Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Kyle Sanderson
I lost my FireAxe which I had earned ingame, the one time that I ran the idle program just to check it out and I didn't get anything... Oh well the fireaxe sucks anyways ;) Kyle. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Kenny Loggins kenny.logg...@clanao.comwrote: F the halo's and they took a hat that

Re: [hlds] crashing

2009-09-03 Thread Kyle Sanderson
OS, Which game mod are you running? Addons? Etc? We need information if you expect us to help you. Kyle. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 7:04 PM, k e mfnt...@gmail.com wrote: anyone having server crashes now? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences,

Re: [hlds] crashing

2009-09-03 Thread FDL1
If he's referring to the TF2 update, no crashes here, but I am getting a lot of CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/.dat' doesn't exist. errors that seem to create lag. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: OS, Which game mod are you running? Addons?

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Donnie Newlove
That would have been awesome but then everyone would have wished they were cheating. I used the idler so I lost my great sandvich collection and all my non existent hats. God dammit... well, I guess I deserve it. It was my own decision so there's only one person to put the blame on

Re: [hlds] crashing

2009-09-03 Thread Ronny Schedel
You should clean your downloads directory frequently. If he's referring to the TF2 update, no crashes here, but I am getting a lot of CreateFragmentsFromFile: 'downloads/.dat' doesn't exist. errors that seem to create lag. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:23 AM, Kyle

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Tony Paloma
Valve pulled an msleeper on all of us -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Newlove Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:48 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds]

Re: [hlds] crashing

2009-09-03 Thread Richard Eid
I'm surprised you'd never noticed those before. Those errors are sprays being uploaded to your server. If a new player connects and there is no record of his/her spray in the downloads folder, TF2 sends it and you get that message. It's nothing to worry about.

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Nightbox
lol 2009/9/3 Tony Paloma drunkenf...@hotmail.com Valve pulled an msleeper on all of us -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Newlove Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:48 PM To: Half-Life

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Flubber
This game is getting so ridiculous, hats, halo, level on weapons one day or another, i just loved tf2 when it was classic FPS with good gaming balance and great fun, Why valve doesn't set cvar to disable all the crap they add (i know because they don't care about admins, our anyone else but the us

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Saint K .
My thoughts exactly. It looks like TF2 became VALVe's massive experimental playground. We're getting complaints all over the place due to the recent decissions made and implemented by VALVe. It looks like their creating a mess which eventually will be eriversable. TF2 is slowely becoming an

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
Mods could remove the hats. But really, common. It's a freaking halo. Geez. -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Flubber Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:36 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread syates20
My group has talked about this many times. I loved the game when it first came out. Screw all these updates. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Flubber flub...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:35:45 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Saul Rennison
GET. A FUCKING. GRIP. They're hats, get over it. They're only making it fit the cartoon style more and make the entire game appeal to a wider audience. How the hell can hats on players make a game terrible? I'm all for customization and unique player characters to make you stand out, and

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Andreas Grimm
First off a small story: A friend lost all his weapons in TF2, cos he used that idletool. Now he bought a new TF2 copy, because it's faster to get his weapons back by making the achievements instead of waiting for a random item drop ... valve makes money and I lold :D Back to topic: The items

[hlds] Please remove me from

2009-09-03 Thread mati798
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Re: [hlds] Please remove me from

2009-09-03 Thread Saul Rennison
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Re: [hlds] Please remove me from

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Re: [hlds] Please remove me from

2009-09-03 Thread Neil Voutt
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Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread TheGeekLord
I have noticed that quite a lot of people I know who used the idler (including myself) have lost items which they got via doing the achievements. Maybe Valve should of checked what they were deleting BEFORE they deleted it? I find it fair to delete items found via the idler but NOT items got

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread David Kellaway
You say you have no problem with unique player characters to make you stand out. That's exactly the problem I have with the halos - 95% of people are wearing one. It's not even a very attractive hat, it's just a glowing circle. When most people on a server are wearing one, it looks silly and, for

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread David Kellaway
If anyone was using this, and noticed halos remained visible sometimes/came back when people used a resupply cabinet, I've fixed that. The updated code is at the same URL. http://davejk.net/crap/tf/tf2.haloremover.zip - Dave 2009/9/3 David Kellaway david.kella...@member.fsf.org: If you run a

Re: [hlds] Please remove me from

2009-09-03 Thread Kevin b er
Try sending an e-mail with any subject and any message to: hlds-le...@list.valvesoftware.com Assuming valve keeps their mailman listserv software up-to-date, this should remove you from hlds. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Saul Rennison saul.renni...@gmail.comwrote: Access denied. 2009/9/3

Re: [hlds] crashing

2009-09-03 Thread FDL1
Well, it basically floods the console with it to a point it hangs VNC. I'll try cleaning out downloads. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Richard Eidrichard@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised you'd never noticed those before.  Those errors are sprays being uploaded to your server.  If a new

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread 1nsane
That would have meant extra work for Valve.You silly goose. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, TheGeekLord li...@thegeeklord.net wrote: I have noticed that quite a lot of people I know who used the idler (including myself) have lost items which they got via doing the achievements. Maybe Valve

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Donnie Newlove
They will fix that, it should be done tomorrow. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 6:23 PM, 1nsane1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: That would have meant extra work for Valve.You silly goose. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:40 AM, TheGeekLord li...@thegeeklord.net wrote: I have noticed that quite a lot of people I

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Don Williams
I think this entire update was great the people that are raged over loosing all there stuff due to the sourceop idle program amuses me. - Original Message - From: Donnie Newlove donnie.newl...@gmail.com To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent:

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Flubber
What you don't get is that it's not only the hat it's the whole direction the game is taking, the hat are just one crappy things; When the plugin allowing everybody to wear any hat went out, i install it everywhere, cause i don't see why people should get something randomly instead of having fun

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Mike Zimmermann
I read this like 4 times and still barely understand what you're trying to say. -Mike On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Flubberflub...@gmail.com wrote: What you don't get is that it's not only the hat it's the whole direction the game is taking, the hat are just one crappy things; When the

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread syates20
I agree. Stuff like hats should be available to eveyone. Silly. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Flubber flub...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 20:15:05 To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing listhlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 -

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Nephyrin Zey
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? On 09/03/2009 11:24 AM, Mike Zimmermann wrote: I read this like 4 times and still barely understand what you're trying to say. -Mike On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Flubberflub...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread syates20
I think the update was silly. I was not an idler, infact I had zero hats, but our servers struggled and I felt like I was waisting my time on a silly update. I mean who really cares about hats? Are they that slow over there at valve? I mean L4D2 is about to be released, don't they need to

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Keeper
I'd like yes to say about Monday happening this me to. I don't mind plugins or mods (of course), but what I don't understand and seriously dislike is that I bought the game because of how it played. I didn't buy the game in hopes they would continually change it. Even with all the bugs in the

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread syates20
Amen and heck yeah! Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:40:53 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos I'd like yes to say

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HealersAgainstHalos Medic griefing group. On Tue, 2009-09-01 at 17:19 +0100, Philip Bembridge wrote: I would happy to mirror it on my home server for a little bit if you would like.But someone would have to email me it first :-) 2009/9/1 Alex

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread 1nsane
If you don't want any of the unlockables then just make a plugin to block Steam connections or add a firewall rule to drop them. None of the new items will work but the server will function fine. People will just see The server you are playing on has lost connection to Steam. As a result, your

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
Thanks for the shout-out. On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 01:04 -0700, Tony Paloma wrote: Valve pulled an msleeper on all of us -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Newlove Sent: Wednesday, September

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
You know if you don't like the game you could always stop playing it. Just throwing that out there. On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 14:40 -0400, Keeper wrote: I'd like yes to say about Monday happening this me to. I don't mind plugins or mods (of course), but what I don't understand and seriously

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Mike Zimmermann
But then where would he get the chance to use ridiculous comparisons? it is a mystery. -Mike On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, msleepermslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote: You know if you don't like the game you could always stop playing it. Just throwing that out there. On Thu, 2009-09-03

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread David Kellaway
The plugin that started this thread isn't for people who don't want any unlockables, it's for people who don't want halos. There are legitimate reasons to not want them - butthurt crybabies ruining the gameplay by not healing people who use them, the fact that they show up on cloaked spies, and

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-09-03 Thread Redh3ad
Banned 940 members today, will ban the new ones tomorrow And someone was looking for the steamgroup parser. Found it here: http://www.mediafire.com/?in3y0minxzz On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:24:00 -0400, msleeper mslee...@ismsleeperwrong.com wrote: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/HealersAgainstHalos

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Keeper
@Mike: LOL ... yeah I had to think about a decent analogy, even then I have to admit fail :( @msleeper: that's not my point. If I spent the money to play a game that I can no longer play due to the fact that there are REQUIRED UPDATES ... then I could construe this as theft. Nowhere in the

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Mike Zimmermann
What business will Valve lose? Last time I checked, all of these updates came free. -Mike On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Keeperhl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: @Mike: LOL ... yeah I had to think about a decent analogy, even then I have to admit fail :( @msleeper:  that's not my point.  If

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
Right, but if you actually put your money where your mouth is and quit playing, you'd show that you have some conviction and integrity to your opinions rather than just whining and crying because mommy and daddy took away your toys (or in Keeper's case, changed it around to the point where he

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Keeper
What I was saying was ... future business. And who says these updates will always be free? What kind of business model supports this level of work on a product for over 2 years (and going) past its initial release? Technically they could go the Blizzard method and charge to play the game for

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
Oh boy is it sure obvious the filter is off. I'm pretty sure they're going to remain free because they've stated they're going to remain free. They stated they hate that they have to charge Xbox users for their updates, and they charge the absolute minimum that Microsoft will allow them. Valve

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Brent Veal
The business model is that every time they release a big update, the game gets a lot of press and sales spike for a period of time. On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Keeper hl2li...@afksoftware.com wrote: What I was saying was ... future business. And who says these updates will always be

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Keeper
Once again, you show you have missed the point. I'm brainstorming on why I think what VALVe is doing is wrong. I'm not bitching about TF2, or the hats or halos. Steam is a great platform for distributing product in this day and age. But it can also be a crutch. Allowing VALVe to push out

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
Oh, I see. In that case then, this is irrelevent to server administration. Take the brain storming the Steam forums. On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 17:24 -0400, Keeper wrote: Once again, you show you have missed the point. I'm brainstorming on why I think what VALVe is doing is wrong. I'm not

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Keeper
That's a double edged sword ... as I stated. The platform allows for untested and buggy product to get pushed out. I know every time I see my steam icon show the dots of doom I cringe to think of what game is updating and what headaches that will bring. Keeper -Original Message- From:

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Kyle Sanderson
Can we actually try to stay on topic here instead of bickering with eachother? This is for discussing the SourceMod addon for Removing the new hat that 95% of the community will be receiving. If you guys really want to bitch and moan with each other, you can do it off the list. Thank you, Kyle.

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-09-03 Thread Alex
Thats not griefing any more than having someone in your server who chooses not to heal anyone but his friend's... They aren't ruining the game for anyone else, if you think someone not healing you all of a sudden means that they are griefing, get in check with reality. msleeper wrote:

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
Well it looks like they've changed the group description unfortunately, but it's written up and down in their like 900 page thread on the Steam boards that their intention is to disrupt gameplay and teamwork. That's a pretty text-book definition of griefing if you ask me. The whole point of this

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-09-03 Thread Alex
And again, one of the problems with group banning is that some people may be in the group with no intention of griefing and are just there as they were invited etc. Stick to banning hacking groups. msleeper wrote: Well it looks like they've changed the group description unfortunately, but

Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
That doesn't make any sense. It's impossible to join a hacking group unless you are a hacker or have the intention of hacking? What you're saying goes both ways, you can't join one on accident and join the other only on purpose. And, in either case, people are responsible for the groups they are a

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread blissend
I'm probably going to get slaughtered for posting my opinion here but I'll just throw it out anyway... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh1qWZWNGGE Also didn't George Carlin once say something about people fighting... Chances are good they are wearing different kind of hats. Keep an eye on that,

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread TheGeekLord
Haha. Its sad but that is _exactly_ the behavior of a large amount of people wearing halo's. I think I will giving that link to people who act elitist just because they have a halo. -TheGeekLord blissend wrote: I'm probably going to get slaughtered for posting my opinion here but I'll just

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sC9JXVw064 -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of blissend Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:17 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 -

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread msleeper
Discussion over, point voogru. On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 21:38 -0400, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sC9JXVw064 -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of blissend Sent:

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread kevin-b...@starmen.net
Enough with the complaints about how the user management is between the steam system and the TF2 game. It doesn't matter to general managment a goldsrc or source server. Please take your arguments over this to to the steam forums. Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald wrote: Mods could remove the hats.

Re: [hlds] TF2 - Removing Halos

2009-09-03 Thread Kenny Loggins
Lol that was great! -Original Message- From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 8:38 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 -