Some days ago we discussed whether z/OS UNIX filesystem's
TYPE names are free of choice or not. Chris then mentioned
that the names may eventually need to have a specific value.
I did some testing. Here are my findings from z/OS V1.6:
- Basically, the names are free. However, components that
Hi
I'm going to move JES2 proclib from a 3380 volume to a 3390 volume and I'm
reading about the $T PROCLIB command.
In the manual it states:
If a $T PROCLIB command is entered with no operands, then concatenation will
be reallocated. This is useful to retry a previous failed allocation or
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 18:26:08 +0900, Timothy Sipples
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Phil Payne writes:
Bollocks.
I've seen an IBM internal analysis of a Websphere Application Server
implementation that was
37x cheaper on Intel than on zSeries.
That's 37 _TIMES_ - not 37%!
That's fascinating, Phil, but
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On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 10:45 -0500, Mike Wojtukiewicz wrote:
How does it restore the target and distlibs? Does it OVERLAY the
current libraries, which means the target system in question is not
running
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:47:43 -0700, Gibney, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we do this, we're talking about the dasd mirror being across
campus or further. We're not in an area prone to natural disasters.
Really? I'm skeptical, but if you say so
We're more worried about human
Considering the numbers of things that can go wrong, I think we're all
susceptible to some sort of disaster. 9/11 alone proves that out.
Daniel McLaughlin
Z-Series Systems Programmer
Crawford Company
4680 N. Royal Atlanta
Tucker GA 30084
phone: 770-621-3256
fax: 770-621-3237
email: [EMAIL
Just curious. Are there any production SNOBOL applications out there?
Regards,
John Kalinich
Computer Sciences Corp
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Just one question.
Are your proclibs defined on the PROCLIB statement inside the JES2 Parms?
I think $TPROCLIB only works for them and not JCL'd Proclibs. If they are,
this will work okay. Though I would be the only TSO User Logged on during
this process incase there are any issues.
As for
Personally, I'd build a new PROCLIB, copy everything into it, adjust my
JES2 startup PROC and re-ipl.
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On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 07:28 -0500, Chase, John wrote:
Hmmm.. I think you just described the Replace option of
ServerPac, which is what we've always used. ISTR there is also an
Upgrade option that more nearly resembles the process of applying a
PUT or RSU maintenance tape. If that's how
I'd like to know who is running TCAM.
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Just curious. Are there any production SNOBOL
applications out there?
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Hi
I'm going to move JES2 proclib from a 3380 volume to a 3390 volume and I'm
reading about the $T PROCLIB command.
In the manual it states:
If a $T PROCLIB command is entered with no operands, then
-snip-
Just curious. Are there any production SNOBOL applications out there?
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Does SPITBOL count? I have a SPITBOL program that I used for years to
edit SYSGEN Stage-2 JCL (if anyone can
IMHO 9/11 is completely pointless here.
1. DASD mirroring does not prevent you against errors in data. Errors
made by human, software bug, etc.
2. Campus area seems to be too small to talk about serious DR centre.
Too short distance. Numerous disaster types could spread both locations.
3.
On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 07:33 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:
Mirroring is great, but backups are still a good idea.
I'd go even further.
Mirroring presumes the source is *always* valid - in fact mirroring is
great for propagating errors. Timely (tape) backups are still mandatory.
If you rely on
Hi,
How can I define a display LU so the user will be able to choose the terminal
type?
Most users like A Model 2 (24*80), but I would like the options to sue a model
3 or even a model 5.
Gadi
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I'd like to know who is running TCAM.
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I've been playing with it on a OS/360 system. Haven't figured out how to
get a tn3270 client to connect, though. (It's really a lost cause, but
I've got
Mike Wojtukiewicz wrote:
This post is most likely directed towards John Eells as he's the master of
the ServerPac domain, but ANYONE with prior experience would be appreciated.
I'm no longer in ServerPac design, but I might be able to
remember bits here and there (smile).
I am looking
Hello!
I need to have a batch PL/I program (say A) call another batch PL/I program
(say B) and be able to change program B and have program A execute using
the modified program B, without the need to re-compile/link-edit program A.
I understand this has to do with some compiler and/or some
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Hi,
How can I define a display LU so the user will be able to
choose the terminal type?
Most users like A Model 2 (24*80), but I would like the
options to sue a model 3 or even a model 5.
Chase, John wrote:
snip
Hmmm.. I think you just described the Replace option of
ServerPac, which is what we've always used. ISTR there is also an
Upgrade option that more nearly resembles the process of applying a
PUT or RSU maintenance tape. If that's how Upgrade works, I'd be
rather
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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:54 AM
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Subject: Re: SNOBOL (Was: Ralph Griswol)
I'd like to know who is running TCAM.
Oh? Going to sell them
If you have a variety of mode entries the terminal lu
will select the one best suited for the model it is.
--- âãé áï àáé [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
How can I define a display LU so the user will be
able to choose the terminal type?
Most users like A Model 2 (24*80), but I would
Chris Phinicarides wrote:
Hello!
I need to have a batch PL/I program (say A) call another batch PL/I program
(say B) and be able to change program B and have program A execute using
the modified program B, without the need to re-compile/link-edit program A.
I understand this has to do with
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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 8:50 AM
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Subject: Batch PL/I Question
Hello!
I need to have a batch PL/I program (say A) call another
--snip-
I need to have a batch PL/I program (say A) call another batch PL/I
program (say B) and be able to change program B and have program A
execute using the modified program B, without the need to
re-compile/link-edit program A.
I
גדי בן אבי wrote:
... Most users like A Model 2 (24*80)
That's just sad. And, they probably have email clients running on the
very same desktop displaying large amounts of text using a relatively
tiny font. There just is no less productive 3270 setting than 24x80!
(Too bad there's not an
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:14:32 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's just sad. And, they probably have email clients running on the
very same desktop displaying large amounts of text using a relatively
tiny font.
Funny... everytime I show someone my 62 x 142 screen they say how can
The resolution of the display has to support the
font... no good if you cannot read the characters.
--- Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:14:32 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's just sad. And, they probably have email
clients running on the
---snip-
Take a long hard look at the PL/1 LOAD, CALL and DELETE statements. I
suspect that's what you want to use.
---unsnip--
After reading other posts, I have to correct myself. It is, indeed, the
FETCH statement,
If program A contains a simple, static call to program B, they are in the
same load module or program object (executable). If now you recompile B it
is possible, indeed easy, to use the Binder to replace B in this executable
without recompiling or resupplying A. (Both the Binder and the
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:24:24 -0700, Stan Saraczewski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The resolution of the display has to support the
font... no good if you cannot read the characters.
How small can you make your 24x80 3270 window and still read it?
Now imagine if the font was the same size and you
Gadi
This issue arises time and again in this group/list.
You need to ensure that the session uses a mode table which
a) specifies the query bit, X'80', in the second byte of the PSERVIC
operand of the mode table entry
b) specifies the X'03', in the penultimate byte of the PSERVIC operand of
Gadi
This issue arises time and again in this group/list.
You need to ensure that the session uses a mode table which
a) specifies the query bit, X'80', in the second byte of the PSERVIC
operand of the mode table entry
b) specifies the X'03', in the penultimate byte of the PSERVIC operand of
On Oct 16, 2006, at 9:20 AM, Mark Zelden wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:14:32 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's just sad. And, they probably have email clients running on the
very same desktop displaying large amounts of text using a relatively
tiny font.
Funny...
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
This topic has been discussed numerous times in this forum.
In the past I used a 62x132 alternate size. But, after
hearing some valid arguments for more columns, recently
changed to 62x142 for my
In a recent note, Mark Zelden said:
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:20:35 -0500
That's just sad. And, they probably have email clients running on the
very same desktop displaying large amounts of text using a relatively
tiny font.
Funny... everytime I show someone my 62 x 142 screen
Stan
You don't really mean that, do you? Or if you do, you'd better provide some
further explanation.
In the days following the availability of the various 3278 models, I needed
to support each on each type of controller. Because there were non-SNA and
SNA controllers, and, of the later, two
It's been a few years, but I too supported a mixed
environment.
Not sure how my MODETAB was set up - but terminals
could switch Mod types and get a session.
Guess I'll root around in my private archives to look
for a sample.
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Stan
You don't really
My situation really is quite simple.
I've got a network which is 10.xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx. Let's use 10.2.12.xxx as my
home address. I also have an internal hipersockets address of 192.0.1.xxx.
This is the configuration for all the images.
As an example (a very good one), if I start a batch FTP to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes:
1. DASD mirroring does not prevent you against errors in data. Errors
made by human, software bug, etc.
2. Campus area seems to be too small to talk about serious DR
centre. Too short distance. Numerous disaster types could spread both
locations.
3. There is
Chase, John wrote:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
This topic has been discussed numerous times in this forum.
In the past I used a 62x132 alternate size. But, after
hearing some valid arguments for more columns, recently
changed to
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
[ snip ]
BTW, which 3270 emulator do you use that allows specification
of both default and alternate sizes?
Bluezone (Seagull Software Systems, Inc.).
http://www.seagullsoftware.com
-jc-
Chase, John wrote:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe
[ snip ]
BTW, which 3270 emulator do you use that allows specification
of both default and alternate sizes?
Bluezone (Seagull Software Systems, Inc.).
We're thinking about dasd to dasd backups to cover these issues.
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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 6:14 AM
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Subject: Re: Storage Philosophy Question
On
Gibney, Dave wrote:
We're thinking about dasd to dasd backups to cover these issues.
It's not worse than tape backup.
DASD is more expensive, but better protected against media failures
(most probably it's RAID-protected). DASD backup is as online as tapes
in ATL (robotic library).
The
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:41:24 -0700, Gibney, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We're thinking about dasd to dasd backups to cover these issues.
What of the corruption occurs just before the backup?
How many generations of backup do you plan to keep?
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After making some changes in BPXPRMxx, FWKERN still refuse to start, but
with other reason: EDC5138I NO SUCH DEVICE OR ADDRESS. I enclosed the
trace file, It doesn't say WHO is the device or address he can't find. I
suspected this is the Ipstack and listed it (see below). This is the
right value.
I want to build a TSO foreground Rexx exec that will do the following
Submit a job
Modify a JCL INCLUDE used by the job
Submit the job again
Modify a JCL INCLUDE used by the job
Etc.
I'm currently doing the same thing manually one step at a time, but of
course the EXEC will be much
I have a task to create monitoring reports on the CF and Structures in the CF
(DB2 Group Buffer Pools). Tools I have available are RMF, SMF, MXG (oh and
TMON).
What is the best way to create the reports that will show growth, activity,
etc... I am not a capacity planner so this is new to me.
John
Is the USS message 10 you are complaining about used in a table for use with
SSCPFM=USSSCS or SSCPFM=USS3270? If USSSCS I forget precisely what should
happen but anyhow it uses SNA Character String (SCS) so it cannot be
distorted by the presentation space dimensions. I expect it just uses
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 11:16:49 -0700 Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:I want to build a TSO foreground Rexx exec that will do the following
:Submit a job
:Modify a JCL INCLUDE used by the job
:Submit the job again
:Modify a JCL INCLUDE used by the job
:Etc.
:I'm currently doing the
Chris Mason wrote:
[snip]
For TSO you need to be careful with the logon screen. There is an APAR for
more than 1024 characters.
ITYM more than 4096 characters, as implied by the remainder of this
paragraph ...
Edward Jaffe - no surprises there - has already
provided you with the details.
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:14:32 -0700, Edward Jaffe
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... There just is no less productive 3270 setting than 24x80!
...
I think that's an unsubstantiated assertion. Productivity is a property
of the individual, and is subject to individual preferences. Maybe some
people
Lizette, RMF has some very good CF utilization report but can be wordy.
Instead, I download the RMF reports to my PC data into the RMF Spreadsheet
Reporter..This tool produces some nice reports. You can download the
Spreadsheet Reporter from:
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/rmf/
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:28:54 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Thanks for pointing out that he meant Netview Access Services (NVAS) and
not Netview. Unlike Netview, which needs a special modification to work
with other than 24x80 default screens, NVAS should work just fine. We
Have you asked the vendor? Is backing up the datasets a contract
requirement?
Could your vendor be using a tool other than HSM that does not set the
fields you check and that ignores the management class restrictions
(such as running a DFDSS full volume dump)?
Have you tried to restore a
Hi,
We preparing to migrate to 1.7. We installed the Console Enhancement
feature to track one byte console id's. What happens if you migrate to
1.7 and something slips through the cracks. We z/OS issue an abend ?
message ? We the address space or task fail ? Please advise.
Thanks
Dean
Dean
I've found that sms vsam dsn that are hsm backed up have dates in the
lbackup, while vsam dsn that are hsm dumped do not have dates in the
lbackup, ie .000.. this should hold true for any dump task
Jack Kelly
LA Systems @ US Courts
x 202-502-2390
I don't think that anything abends on z/OS 1.7 unless you specify that it
should abend in your console ID tracking parms. I think that support for
one-byte console IDs only goes away on z/OS 1.8.
Bill
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:02:51 -0400, Dean Montevago
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Hi,
We preparing
Thanks. I can do almost anything but this will require some re-thinking.
In the INCLUDE is SET and DD statements used by the job.
Can you place it in-line?
Are you implying that the basic job file is completely read before the TSO
SUBMIT command returns to the issuer? In other words, that the
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
One of the problems with NetView is that it has hundreds of hard coded
24x80 panels. Even if it did an Erase write Alternate for them the
display would still be 24x80 bytes of the larger screen. They have had
the capability for building and displaying larger screen
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 07:14:32 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... There just is no less productive 3270 setting than 24x80!
...
I think that's an unsubstantiated assertion. Productivity is a property
of the individual, and is subject to
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 13:48:17 -0700 Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:Thanks. I can do almost anything but this will require some re-thinking.
:In the INCLUDE is SET and DD statements used by the job.
: Can you place it in-line?
:Are you implying that the basic job file is completely read
Charles Mills
Are you implying that the basic job file is completely read
before the TSO SUBMIT command returns to the issuer? In other words, that
the following sequence would be safe?
SUB X.CNTL(ABC)
Allocate, modify, and free X.CNTL(ABC)
SUB X.CNTL(ABC)
Sure - the TSO SUBMIT command
That's not too bad then. I just have to copy the thing over and do my own
pseudo-INCLUDE processing. More work than I anticipated, but not too bad.
I don't really need to use SUB at all, do I? I could just as easily do
ALLOC FI(MYDD) SYSOUT(A) WRITER(INTRDR)
And EXECIO the thing to MYDD. Does
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:14:33 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
And, I would use a lot more than 62 rows if ISPF would let me!
...
But you're one of those young guys whose eyes still work.
Your time will come! :-)
Pat O'Keefe
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:03:09 -0700 Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:That's not too bad then. I just have to copy the thing over and do my own
:pseudo-INCLUDE processing. More work than I anticipated, but not too bad.
:I don't really need to use SUB at all, do I? I could just as easily do
Patrick O'Keefe wrote:
But you're one of those young guys whose eyes still work.
Your time will come! :-)
Just out of curiosity, what screen resolution do you use on your Windows
desktop?
[Right click on desktop background. Click Properties. Click Settings
tab.]
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Bill,
The link to which you pointed was a SASware 2006 ballot, whose results
were announced at SUGI in March.
The results were that the port SAS to Linux on the mainframe issue
received 73 votes, ranking it as the 92nd most popular issue overall, out
of 184 items, exactly 50%. Its not likely
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:32:37 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Just out of curiosity, what screen resolution do you use on your Windows
desktop?
...
1280x1024
I suspect you're going to say I could use a smaller font, and maybe I
could. I found a font that works well for me
In a recent note, Tony Harminc said:
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:35:35 -0400
Are you implying that the basic job file is completely read
before the TSO SUBMIT command returns to the issuer? In other words, that
the following sequence would be safe?
SUB X.CNTL(ABC)
Allocate,
That moustache of yours must keep you at least 6
inches from it.
(ha).
--- Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:32:37 -0700, Edward Jaffe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
Just out of curiosity, what screen resolution do
you use on your Windows
desktop?
...
Gil, thanks.
Yes, I am modifying (actually, repeatedly building on the fly) the member
itself in the PDS referenced by JCLLIB, not changing the member name in the
INCLUDE statement.
This is not some I think I'll improve the user's job sort of thing. This
is a test process for a batch product.
Mark
Regarding the readability of characters on the surface of a display device
surface:
Back in 1982 or 3, I participated in an exhibition in Geneva. The stand was
sponsored by the La Gaude laboratories and the objective was to show off the
386X modems with their fancy self-diagnosis functions
I've got a QSAM DCB. It's about 99% hard-coded, not built on the fly, and it
works more than 99% of the time, so I'm pretty confident it's correct. It's
unlikely that the DCB has been overlaid, because it's early in the game, and
again, it works more than 99% of the time. (Yes, it could happen.)
Matthew
I thought you said it worked with Steve's example. Now you say you still
have a problem. However, you say you don't have a problem when using the
GATEWAY statement.
It's very easy to convert a GATEWAY statement to a BEGINROUTES/ENDROUTES
block of statements. Perhaps you should post your
Edward
Sorry about the 1024/4096 mix-up - rush of blood!
Regarding your powers of persuasion, I expect you made the emulator
providers an offer they couldn't refuse.
Chris Mason
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To:
In a recent note, Charles Mills said:
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:29:21 -0700
So I'm trying to automate it. (Automate just the submission part -- I can
scan ISPF pretty quickly for seventy return codes.) I have an exec that
To what extent could you run the job steps with Rexx
In a recent note, Charles Mills said:
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 18:05:00 -0700
I've got a QSAM DCB. It's about 99% hard-coded, not built on the fly, and it
works more than 99% of the time, so I'm pretty confident it's correct. It's
unlikely that the DCB has been overlaid, because it's
But why have I never experienced this; only the Sx13 ABENDs?
From DFSHS: Using Data Sets:
3.2.6.5 Open/Close/EOV Errors
There are two classes of errors that can occur during open, close, and
end-of-volume processing: determinate and indeterminate errors. Determinate
errors are errors
I would recommend doing QUEUE's followed by SUBMIT *
Why?
Peter Hunkeler
CREDIT SUISSE
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Tom Marchant writes:
You do us no service when you admonish us to read the announcement
for information that is not there.
My apologies, Tom. You're absolutely right. At minimum I should have been
more precise. Step one is to grab the part number(s) and calculate the
value units (VUs). Both
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