ISMF...
In
contrast, which native ISPF application would a person have to go into
to
see a list of all their DB2 tables?
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Hello,
Am interfacing w/ a customer who is working on an IBM 'box' w/ the Zos
O.S. and
natural. He is creating files for us but is having trouble creating a
file w/ today's date
in the filename.
Can anyone help? (No unix
Where do you get THE? Does it have to be purchased?
THE is an Open Source Product. The latest version I've tried was somehow
buggy in SPF-Mode. If you give it a try, then try different versions.
Maybe you wanna have a look at http://www.planetmvs.com/spfeditor
There is a thing mentioned
/IPT:initial/ /pthread-creating/ /thread/ .
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Hi again!
Yesterday we tried to synchronize our Sysplex Timers with an ETS, but we
couldn't get it. My problem is I didn't find any manuals with help. It shows
an error window, but I don't know where to look for information about it.
Could you tell me where can I look for?
Thank you very much!
Yesterday we tried to synchronize our Sysplex Timers with an ETS, but we
couldn't get it. My problem is I didn't find any manuals with help. It
shows
an error window, but I don't know where to look for information about it.
Could you tell me where can I look for?
The manual is
SY27-2641-02 9037
Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
While this service is a great start, in the description it clearly
states that this is to be used to TEST developed solutions, not as a
product development environment. Kind of a catch-22 at this point, w/o
other access to an IBM system, you won't have a
Another issue with changing first qualifiers is that you will fill up
your master catalog with junk filenames. The first qualifier should
always be an entry that points to a user catalog. The mastercatalog
should not be updateable by the general user.
Jon L. Veilleux
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(860)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/24/2007
at 10:43 AM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This may relate to the user-surly approach of a lot of mainframe
implementation. People should know enough not submit a job / start a
task when a library is being updated. Similarly people should
memorize
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/24/2007
at 03:57 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
And allowing HFS directories to appear among the concatenands on the
EDIT/BROWSE/etc. panels?
With parameters?
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ISO position; see
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/27/2007
at 06:55 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Heck, even XEDIT can display and edit a long line as a single field
which spans several screen lines.
That would be nice as an option; I wouldn't want it as a default. And
what do you mean even? XEDIT is
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 19:43 +1000, George Kozakos wrote:
but I don't know where to look for information about it.
Could you tell me where can I look for?
The manual is
SY27-2641-02 9037 Maintenance Manual
Being at home at present, I'm presuming this is the manual about the
size of a
A first or second qualifier of Dyymmm would be fine. If the first qualifier
you would have a problem cataloging the file on your own system, however
since this would be a new foreign tape received once a day/week/month from
the other customer, I am not sure that cataloging it on your system is a
Thanks for responding Pat. We are z/OS 1.7
Resolver Trace Initialization Complete - 2007/03/27 12:45:52.976735
res_init Resolver values:
Global Tcp/Ip Dataset = None
Default Tcp/Ip Dataset = None
Local Tcp/Ip Dataset = None
Translation Table = Default
UserId/JobName
Andy,
I believe that Library Server still will only work with XML Toolkit V1.6. I
know
1.6 of the xml toolkit is out of support, but library server has not been
updated
to use the newer versions yet. I'm just getting to working on 1.7, and
although I had the XML toolkit (v1.7-v1.9) on my
Yeah, we are planning STP, but now we need to synchronize our clocks. I know
we can't automatically update time if it's deviation is higher than 5
seconds, but I SUPPOSE you can connect to the ETS. Nevertheless, now we are
doing manual synchronization. My problem is we couldn't find a manual
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Salt
[ snip ]
The original poster said something along the lines of I
don't want to keep scraps of paper with all my DB2 table
names on it. In support of that, I used an analogy that even
though Windows
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 14:29 +0200, Víctor de la Fuente wrote:
My problem is we couldn't find a manual
describing the different states and errors we can find on Sysplex Timer.
Shane proposed two of them; but I couldn't find the first one, and the
second one does not describe such errors.
Phil,
Thnaks for pointing that out, I scanned that page, and missed the
description, however I was looking at the program description in the
application for the specific programs, and it states:
Program Intent
The Remote Development Program is intended soley for testing solution
provider developed
Mark Steely wrote:
Does any know when z/OS V1R9 will be available?
snip
It's our intent to ship new releases of z/OS every September
(insert standard IBM disclaimer here), as we say in z/OS Planning
for Installation. See topic 1.3 Annual release cycle at:
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:58 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro
List/Execute Forms (Was: Need help with Assembler ...)
On 28 Mar 2007 04:21:06 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/24/2007
at 10:43 AM, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
This may relate to the user-surly approach of a lot of mainframe
implementation. People should know enough not submit a job / start a
task
Victor
George has given you a specific answer. Let me give you a more general one:
Google.
Using IBM sysplex timers and ETS, I got 78 hits - and George's references
were, or were in, hits 1 and 3.
Also - just to help a little with English - the strict answer to your
question is Yes - and
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/26/2007
at 02:29 PM, Dave Salt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
BTW: Some people advocate REFLISTS and the ISPF Workplace (etc),
which of course come 'free' with ISPF. Meanwhile, IBM sells Spiffy
as an add-on product to enhance ISPF. If Spiffy didn't do a *much*
better job
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/23/2007
at 05:54 PM, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Uh oh. Now I'm going to start getting paranoid. The last 2 times I
attended SHARE (Seattle and Tampa) I didn't spend much time at
(ex-)SCIDS, but I did look around for the IBM-Main banner a few times
Victor
Something I forgot to mention - but it's just a comment - maybe:
I picked this up only because failure to find help information is just about
impossible when Google is to hand - although it may be faster and easier to
ask real people on a list such as this than wade through the chaff a
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Wayne Driscoll wrote:
Ed,
While this service is a great start, in the description it clearly
states that this is to be used to TEST developed solutions, not as a
product development environment. Kind of a catch-22 at this point, w/o
other access to an IBM system, you won't
From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IBM sells lots of things, and I don't see any correlation between
sales figures and quality. The everybody else has one argument is
not an appropriate criterion for purchase decisions.
I don't see any correlation either. Who said everybody else
In a recent note, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM said:
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:55:01 +0200
tomk wrote in message
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Hello,
Am interfacing w/ a customer who is working on an IBM 'box' w/ the Zos
O.S. and
natural. He is creating files for us but is having
Victor
Since I got myself involved, I may as well try to see it out.
What you appear to need - as is mentioned in the redbook to which George
referred: http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg242070.html - are the
*maintenance* manuals. In principle, these manuals are used only by the folk
Hi,
We have WebSphere and we write the logs to files instead of letting them
go to SYSPRINT (JES). We want the date and time in the file name. The
JCL for the server has this:
PATH='/prt/JISP/ENV/was.log.dLYYMMDD..tLHHMMSS'
We brought up a server this morning and the WAS log is being written
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said:
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 07:19:27 -0400
And allowing HFS directories to appear among the concatenands on the
EDIT/BROWSE/etc. panels?
With parameters?
Whatever it takes. I assume they could be saved in the ISPPROF
(as ISPF already
In a recent note, Clark Morris said:
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:15:06 -0300
As someone who modified an exit 6 from the CBT tape that set job class
based on job requirements to meet my shop's needs, I obviously
disagree vehemently. Job class is a means of assigning work. If the
job class
I still think that what you learned first and grew up on determines what
editor you like best. I worked with VM for about 15 years at PH Mining
until they retired VM. I never liked XEDIT as well as ISPF. I know that
some of the best people at PH liked XEDIT better, but they learned it
It works when using Vista32, as the emulator, and _not_ in GUI mode.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Eric N. Bielefeld
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 11:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF not productive
I still
Eric,
That really depends on the terminal emulator you use. I use Vista, and
one of the things I love about it is that it treats the scroll wheel as
ISPF UP and DOWN commands. Now if ISPF find could use regular
expressions, I would be a happy man.
Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
JME Software
In a recent note, Wayne Driscoll said:
Subject: Re: ISPF not productive
That really depends on the terminal emulator you use. I use Vista, and
one of the things I love about it is that it treats the scroll wheel as
ISPF UP and DOWN commands. Now if ISPF find could use regular
Gerard Schildberger wrote:
I was talking to some IBMer one day (rather high up
in the food chain), and he related to a time where
IBM asked some customers (it might even been at a
SHARE/GUIDE MVS or TSO QA session), and the question
was asked, would you like IBM to port XEDIT to
ISPF (or SPF)
On 3/28/07, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Eric,
That really depends on the terminal emulator you use. I use Vista, and
one of the things I love about it is that it treats the scroll wheel as
ISPF UP and DOWN commands.
Interesting! Is it possible to do this in PCOMM since I don't
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF not productive
snip
Many users would also yearn for the ability to move the cursor
In Passport emulator you can assign WORD DELETE to a key (I have it
on CTRL-End key)
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: ISPF not
Just got back from teaching a class (my first
payable work this year, and my backlog is now
back to zero; but, that's all for a different
post that I may never put out).
Anyway, the client contact told me they have
been moving work off the mainframe but that
recently they have had some serious,
From: Eric N. Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Its funny how things work out when you've been away from ISPF for a while.
When I would edit something at Lands End on the mainframe, I would keep
grabbing the mouse and try to scroll forward using the scroll wheel. I
wish I could do that in ISPF. I
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 10:54:16 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
-Original Message- On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
Many users would also yearn for the ability to move the cursor
or to delete a word at a time rather than a character at a time.
Wasn't there something in old green screen 3270
I just got this announcement that the 3490-F1A (and others) will be
going off maintenance services on June 30, 2007.
It seems to me that 3 months is rather short notice that you can't get
service from IBM (I know you can probably get 3rd party maint). What if
you have a long term contract? Am I
In a message dated 3/28/2007 8:18:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also - just to help a little with English - the strict answer to your
question is Yes - and that's it.
The question was Could you xx. This is correct as far as the English
that I learned 50+
I didn't know Vista allowed that. I'll have to try getting Vista at my next
job then. We had Rumba at Lands End. At PH, we had some old thing that
was last supported around 1999. I can't even remember the name any more.
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. z/OS Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
I'd like to second John's request/recommendation on adding your
voices to either the marketing request or the SHARE requirement.
The more people interested in a particular change that add their
voices/votes, the more it helps the priority get set so that the
change gets done.
Thanks,
Andrew
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:18:32 EDT, IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The question was Could you xx. This is correct as far as the English
that I learned 50+ years ago in my childhood English grammar classes, but not
so far as current, slangy, idiomatic, and au courant
I think this is the answer I need! I'll look for those Maintenance Book
tomorrow.
By the way, please don't think I use the list as a Google's substitution. I
think in the list as a last try before giving up. I went into Google for
hours, but couldn't find why the query was failing. Before that,
This is a call to all the XEDIT freaks that have been punking ISPF the last
few days to put your money where your mouth is and submit some SHARE
requirements for the ISPF editor. I get sick and tired of all the XEDIT
freaks saying how XEDIT is way better than ISPF, but they never back it up
In a message dated 3/28/2007 11:41:44 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
And all this relates to sysplex timers how?
It relates just as much as Chris Mason's lengthy paragraph, to which I was
submitting a response. You should also take him to task for straying OT. I
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 11:20:20 -0500, Eric N. Bielefeld wrote:
I didn't know Vista allowed that.
Actually, Vista32 is even smarter than that -- it allows you to specify the
wheel use but the default is that wheelup triggers PF7 and wheeldown
triggers PF8. (You can't reprogram the wheel
Tom Conley of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
wrote on 03/28/2007 11:50:25 AM:
This is a call to all the XEDIT freaks that have been punking ISPF the
last
few days to put your money where your mouth is and submit some SHARE
requirements for the ISPF editor. I get sick
It relates just as much as Chris Mason's lengthy paragraph, to which I was
submitting a response. You should also take him to task for straying OT.
Bill... sorry if you felt picked on - that wasn't my intent. Your post was
the one I hit reply to, thus the quoted text. But to be fair to
I don't know if this is much news, but WebSphere Host On-Demand Version
10 has Mouse wheel support for Java 2 JVM 1.4 and higher clients...
http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03002c/software/webservers/hostondemand/featur
esv10.html
Regards,
Kevin
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Víctor de la Fuente
[ snip ] Excuse me if I'm asking too much.
Never be afraid to ask a mainframe-related question, an answer to which you've
already sought on your own and not found, in this forum. All that is
As far as your first item
Running xedit(REXX) macros from the prefix area Where that line is
the
target.
This a very possible and quite useful via Doug Nagle's LMAC or UMAC.
I've implemented it and added many line command 'macros'.
Bill
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe
3 months should be enough time to find out that 3rd parties will
probably still support them and charge less.
When we had to bid our hardware maintenance, IBM lost BIG. We had
little choice but to go elsewhere. It hasn't been perfect, but I drive
a Ford, not a BMW...
-Original
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace
I'm not one of the ones that have BMed about ISPF not being
XEDIT. And I wouldn't because I haven't used ISPF long
enough to know what I can and can't do with it. But off hand
here are the things
[ snip ]
Change works on all elements at once, not having to
continuously press PF6.
On the command line, C STRING ROPE ALL Enter will change every
occurrence of STRING to ROPE in the currently-edited member.
No fair, to easy. :-)
Sort macro
On the command line, SORT x y will sort the
My ISPF says SORT x y will sort using the data from column x to column
y, not length y. Also, you can have multiple keys, SORT a b c d will
sort on columns a thru b then c thru d. You can also say SORT i j A l m
D which will sort based on columns I thru j ASCENDING and then l thru m
DESCENDING.
Chuck - when did you return to CA ?
Chris Hoelscher
Senior IDMS DB2 Database Administrator
Humana Inc
502-476-2538
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris Hoelscher
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
Chuck - when did you return
Stating the obvious there, Mark. :-)
I hate ICCF. I'll use DITTO online edit before I use ISPF. Anything but
ICCF. Not to mention its design where every time you hit enter or a PF key,
it rewrites the file (or a portion).
At an earlier employer that sold an ISPF/PDF look-alike product, I
Oops, DITTO online edit before I use - ICCF -.
I never got to experience the wonder that is SPMOL. That's probably a good
thing.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mark Pace
Sent: Wednesday March 28 2007 11:18
To:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace
[ snip ]
Change works on all elements at once, not having to continuously
press PF6.
On the command line, C STRING ROPE ALL Enter will change every
occurrence of STRING to ROPE in the
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hardee, Charles H
My ISPF says SORT x y will sort using the data from column x
to column y, not length y. Also, you can have multiple
keys, SORT a b c d will sort on columns a thru b then c
thru d. You can also
I think the ISPF editor is the bees knees, and I rarely use anything else.
But for those who don't like it, it's not like there isn't a choice. ISPF
can be configured so that selecting a file for edit or view automatically
causes the file to open on the PC/workstation using the editor of
On 3/28/07, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hate ICCF. I'll use DITTO online edit before I use ISPF. Anything but
ICCF. Not to mention its design where every time you hit enter or a PF
key,
it rewrites the file (or a portion).
ICCF's biggest drawback. Once you hit enter, it's
I guess over time you end up using all of the mainframe editors. When I
started off in this business I was 16 and a part-time operator for a
local hospital and that's about the time VSE/ICCF was introduced.
In college we used MUSIC/SP and when I started at the bank a few years
later ROSCOE and
Chase, John wrote:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Pace
[ snip ]
Change works on all elements at once, not having to continuously
press PF6.
On the command line, C STRING ROPE ALL Enter will change every
occurrence of STRING to ROPE in the
Clark Morris wrote:
As someone who modified an exit 6 from the CBT tape that set job class
based on job requirements to meet my shop's needs, I obviously
disagree vehemently. Job class is a means of assigning work. If the
job class is based on job requirements known at JCL interpretation,
then
Oh yeah, I forgot about using LDL in DITTO. I think the DITTO editor is
great since you can actually go into library members and edit, copy,
etc. Better than having to punch them and then recatalog.
When I was at Furr's we had a developer that wrote own editor under CICS
(XA). It was a
Ray, I think punching cards was better than ICCF.
Gary Garland Gregory, MS
CA
Senior Software Engineer
Tel: +1-214-473-1863
Fax: +1-214-473-1050
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ray Mullins
Sent:
test. Sorry if it succeeds. ;-)
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Pinnacle
Sent: woensdag 28 maart 2007 18:50
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Call for XEDIT freaks, submit ISPF requirements
This is a call to all the XEDIT
On 3/28/07, Gregory, Gary G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ray, I think punching cards was better than ICCF.
Having done both, Nah, ICCF is better than an IBM 29 Card Punch.
--
Mark Pace
Mainline Information Systems
--
For
On 28 Mar 2007 11:47:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Clark Morris wrote:
As someone who modified an exit 6 from the CBT tape that set job class
based on job requirements to meet my shop's needs, I obviously
disagree vehemently. Job class is a means of assigning work. If the
/*DLW wrote:
I have to say, after using both XEDIT and ISPF, that using XEDIT is
like Bowling without thumbs. I have been a Sysprog for many years and
have had the pleasure of using both. (So spare me the n00b label,
kids.) ;-)
My impression of XEDIT is that it is the VM equivilent of VI
In a message dated 3/28/2007 2:29:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why verify and fail when the system can just make it what it should be this
week? How is productivity helped.
One reason - the job's submitter may be trying to run his work at lower cost
than the
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:36:04 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
That could mean that there was a logistics snafu yet again and the
table didn't get labelled.
...
What? Apply logic rather than assume a conspiracy? That is hardly in
the spirit of this thread. I was
The customer has increased and increased INTRDR= and the error is still
occurring.
Again, this is with FTP scripts that are otherwise working widely so it is
not something real simple and stupid. It is an intermittent error. The
customer claims he is not seeing INTRDR allocation errors otherwise.
I'll be the first to admit that I could be wrong on it. It is odd that
the overall description, it says Development, but on the application for
a contract, it states soley for testing. I would be happy as heck to
be wrong on it, and the rates do seem relativly reasonable, still more
than a FLEX
The thing I miss most about xedit was the simplicity of the macros. If
I found myself doing something repetitive, such as a series of change
commands, I could quickly create a macro by:
Typing x x x and then in the new member x x I would enter those change
commands just as I entered them in
I want DELTA deck support.
Why are you (and others) posting requirement here?
IBM doesn't act off this list!
Why not do what the OP suggested, and submit them through appropriate channels?
This is just lowering an already low signal to noise ratio.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
On Mar 28, 2007, at 2:41 PM, (IBM Mainframe Discussion List) wrote:
In a message dated 3/28/2007 2:29:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why verify and fail when the system can just make it what it
should be this
week? How is productivity helped.
One reason - the
Why verify and fail when the system can just make it what it should be this
week? How is productivity helped.
I wish I had ThruPut Mangler, again!
I've used it at three different instances of my career, and at all three we
went from over 30 jobclasses to less than 10.
One down to four.
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:50:25 -0400, Pinnacle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... put your money where your mouth is and submit some SHARE
requirements for the ISPF editor.
...
I had to go back and check that. Maybe email systems, browsers, or
news readers translated that to BM here, please, but it
One reason - the job's submitter may be trying to run his work at
lower cost
than the correct job class would cost, assuming a job-class-based
charge-back policy is in effect.
If people are doing that, then your charge back policies should be reviewed.
NOT, what the user is doing to get
In a message dated 3/28/2007 3:14:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
If you have draconian policies, users will perform unusual acts to get
around it.
Too true. And the policies don't even have to be draconian. This is normal
human behavior. As many lawyers know,
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Job class enforcement was Re: IEFC603I PROCLIB
DEVICE I/O ERROR READING F...
One reason -
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:10:20 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But, in all cases nobody was required to specify job classes when we were done.
And, if they did, they were ignored -- T/M set the class.
That's the way it should be done. We run TM on some LPARs and (unfortunately)
do
Charles Mills wrote:
The customer has increased and increased INTRDR= and the error is still
occurring.
Again, this is with FTP scripts that are otherwise working widely so it is
not something real simple and stupid. It is an intermittent error. The
customer claims he is not seeing INTRDR
I can hijack a C initiator to get my work done and to elided with the other
programmers!, shouldn't I, as the system administrator, make sure
that the programmer doesn't get away with it?
We are talking a matter of degree.
If one programmer/user is doing it, fine, remediation includes everything
At an earlier employer that sold an ISPF/PDF look-alike
product, I always used it in VSE.
Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?
employer=ADR and product=VOLLIE?
Fondly,
an ex-ADR-ite
Mark Vitale
Senior Software Engineer
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Just submit a job and be done with it.
Can we have an AMEN, brothers and sisters?
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Clark Morris wrote:
Why verify and fail when the system can just make it what it should be
this week? How is productivity helped.
Some jobs are real problems. For instance, we had one that
required six tape drives (out of eight), and lots of work space.
We had a special class, without a
Will DCOLLECT gather data on all management classes in use from the
catalog (i.e. including migrated datasets)? I suspect I have several
management classes which aren't in use, inherited from someone's previous
work, and I'm looking for a good safe way to clean up.
Thanks
Tim Hare
Senior
I was thinking it was either BIM-EDIT or CA Vollie.
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Sorry, Brain, go back to trying to take over the world. :-)
Employer=Software AG, product=NATURAL ISPF, which uses product=ENTIRE SYSTEM
SERVER. :-)
And it provides a consistent environment in z/OS, z/VSE and BS2000/OSD.
Later,
Ray
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