Re: Multiple TSO logons

2007-06-19 Thread R.S.
Rick Fochtman wrote: [...] ALL private SVC's and modules that front-ended or replaced IBM modules had to be provided to us in source form, with all macros, etc. required for assembly. NDA's were properly executed and code was provided, or we didn't buy the product. Period. The entire Systems

Re: CA-TopSecret SP1 (and above) CICS SIGNON Problem

2007-06-19 Thread Mark Jacobs
Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:18:23 -0500, Kelman, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were informed by CA that the problem has to do with some algorithm they use to compress the last date accessed. It is date specific. They next time it would occur if not fixed is January 6,

Re: CMS/DOD idle connection requirements

2007-06-19 Thread Jim Marshall
Can anyone point me to the actual government documents (CMS and DOD) pertaining to the security requirement for unattended (15 minutes) connections. US Government seemly imposed rules are confusing. What I know it comes from the NIST 800-53 document under the category of AC-12; www.nist.gov

HSM TTOC for dropped tape

2007-06-19 Thread Debbie Mitchell
Is there any way to list the TTOC of an HSM ML2 volume that HSM no longer knows about (but is not scratch)? While recycling tapes, this particular tape received a IEC148I S713-04 error and the recycle ended with no datasets moved. HSM then removed the tape from its inventory. I know why we

Re: HSM TTOC for dropped tape

2007-06-19 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Debbie, Besides posing an ETR to IBM, you might try contacting the folks at Mainstar.com. You may not be a customer but in the past they would be helpful anyway. Either way you get a definitive answer. From: Debbie Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue

Re: IBMLINK Planned outage?

2007-06-19 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 10:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: IBMLINK Planned outage? Posters on a Google group called the problems absurd, but a spokeswoman for

Re: When SMP/E First Introduced?????

2007-06-19 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
Likewise. ESP site for both. Even got to meet KQ...early eighties 'bout the best I can do. Hmmm... must have been someone else Ed, because I joined IBM and SMP/E in 1987, four years after SMP/E went GA in 1983. At the time in 1987 we were developing SMP/E Release 5 (you remember, the

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-06-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When? I never considered IBM world and its batch environment timesharing. Timesharing does not do large data processing tasks well;

Simple (???) VSAM ESDS question

2007-06-19 Thread Bill Klein
(I sent this to the Assembler list, but meant to ask IBM-MAIN - Sorry if some see it twice) A question came up in the COBOL newsgroup about records (not blocks, i.e. LBI) 32K. I know that QSAM doesn't support this. The current Enterprise COBOL LRM at:

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-06-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Anne Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: with the advent of PCs ... a lot of the cms personal computing migrated to PCs ... although the (mainframe) virtual

Re: Simple (???) VSAM ESDS question

2007-06-19 Thread Terry Sambrooks
Hi Bill, In respect of: Now, although it isn't common, COBOL can use ESDS (rather than QSAM) for sequential files. I checked the DFSMS manuals and got a BIT confused. It talked about SPANNED records with records CI/CA, but I couldn't tell if this meant that you could or could not have an ESDS

Re: Simple (???) VSAM ESDS question

2007-06-19 Thread Larry Crilley
Check here under DEFINE CLUSTER and the RECORDSIZE keyword: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT1I201/3.13.1.2 ?SHELF=DGT1BK24DT=19940412074013CASE= It says: When you specify a record size that is larger than one control interval, you must also specify spanned

Re: When SMP/E First Introduced?????

2007-06-19 Thread IBMsysProg
Don't know about non USA locations but as I recall the first product to ship with SMP/E support was IMS/VS 1.1.5 at service refresh 7909. Disclaimer ... The memory is the second thing to go and I forget what number one is. Regards Avram Friedman -Original Message- From: Birger Heede

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/13/2007 at 08:48 AM, GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: The user defined symbols in JCL are handled by the JES (or equivalent) facilities No. They're handled by the Converter. I suspect there is some callable JES service for it, No. You might be able

Re: Simple (???) VSAM ESDS question

2007-06-19 Thread Arthur T.
On 19 Jun 2007 06:11:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Klein) wrote: (I sent this to the Assembler list, but meant to ask IBM-MAIN - Sorry if some see it twice) A question came up in the COBOL newsgroup about records (not blocks, i.e.

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/14/2007 at 04:39 PM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Most default/desirable options for the Assembler and the compilers, etc. could be set at System Generation time, Yes. avoiding those long parm strings. No. And as I recall, SYS1.JOBQUEUE had a record

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/14/2007 at 06:42 AM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IIRCC they did offer up a way to shorten the verbs so that the 100 character limitation was semi mute. ITYM moot, and even with abbreviations I ran into the 100 character limit setting up procs for IBM

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/13/2007 at 06:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Very few years earlier, nobody could envision a need for an address space larger than 16 MiB. Well, I was shocked by the small address size on the S/360, and the Ferranti Atlas certainly suggested that

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/13/2007 at 05:26 PM, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Probably because 40+ years ago, when this was designed, nobody in their wildest dreams could envision a need for a PARM longer than 100 bytes. :-) Perhaps not, but 39 years ago I ran into issues because of

Re: CMS/DOD idle connection requirements

2007-06-19 Thread Tim Hare
Don't know about DOD but our security folks were satisfied that the multi-session product (Supersession in our case) timed out and locked its session with the physical terminal while allowing the virtual terminal sessions to remain live. This allows a timed out user to resume where they left

Re: CMS/DOD idle connection requirements

2007-06-19 Thread Staller, Allan
snip Can anyone point me to the actual government documents (CMS and DOD) pertaining to the security requirement for unattended (15 minutes) connections. There are two interpretations here: 1) kick the user completely out (CICS TSO) 2) require the user to enter a (Secure Serve Validated)

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 7:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program? In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 06/14/2007 at 06:42 AM,

Re: Simple (???) VSAM ESDS question

2007-06-19 Thread Matthew Stitt
The first two bytes specify the segment length. The next two bytes specify the segment number of the spanned record. The next 4 bytes are the standard RDW bytes for the record itself, especially if it is a variable length record. Take a look at the COBOL file descriptor clause RECORD TYPE IS S

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:24:38 -0600 Jeffrey D. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :The compilers at http://www.dignus.com/ allow indirection for options. :Just specify a file name (DD name or data set name) in the PARM= :string. The compiler reads the file to get the options. Indirection :completely

Re: HSM TTOC for dropped tape

2007-06-19 Thread Jack Kelly
You can scan the tape for *CDD** records. Lots of entries for an ML2 tape but it is a list of all the dsn on the tape. I use FATS, eg //CDDEXEC FATSCAN,VOLI=205569,UNITI=(3490,,DEFER),TIME=8 0004 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*,OUTLIM=8 0005 //TAPEIN DD

Re: When SMP/E First Introduced?????

2007-06-19 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/19/2007 7:49:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmmm... must have been someone else Ed, because I joined IBM and SMP/E in 1987, four years after SMP/E went GA in 1983. At the time in 1987 we Sorry, still foggy from 1455 Mkt. St. Guess it

PDS86 missing output with LIST subcommand

2007-06-19 Thread John P Kalinich
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 00:25:01 -0500 Anthony Fletcher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone experienced a problem with PDS86 leaving out a chunk of text from a LOAD module? I was looking in .SCEERUN(CEECCICS) to see what was in the CEEEXTAN CSECT. I used the LIST subcommand, and because it is quite

Re: Capacity and Relational Database

2007-06-19 Thread IBMsysProg
An additional view of DBMS memory usage history. IMS OSAM data base buffer pools were a common pool shared by many data sets since its introduction. Originally only one block size was supported and most people chose a value like 6114 to obtain the best disk space utilization. The reason why IMS

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 9:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program? On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 09:24:38 -0600 Jeffrey D. Smith [EMAIL

Re: Capacity and Relational Database

2007-06-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html##47 Capacity and Relational Database for some additional past history the university i was at was selected to be

Re: Idenitfy ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Tim Hare
I have a rule for when Sender, To, or CC contain IBM-MAIN, which moves mail to a different Notes folder. since the folder is highlighted when it contains unread mail, this sort of provides color coding. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Clem Clarke
Sorry about the formatting in this text only newsgroup. However, you can see it formatted correctly in the Jol Reference Guide at http://members.ozemail.com.au/~oscarptyltd/Jol_Reference_Guide.pdf. That said, there is a special command in Jol for storing or saving symbolic variables for

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
Thanks, Curiously, what is the Converter part of, base z/OS services? An alternative solution might be to push the symbols and values of them to environment variables (would probably need a special program or exit for this), then access them in a program with the CEEENV callable LE service.

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Tom Russell
I got it to work. Looking at the document properties, The second tab gives you all the fields defined in the document. By trial and error I found a field called principal which in my case contained: IBM-MAIN automatic digest system [EMAIL PROTECTED]. When I pasted this into the

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:26:23 -0400, Tom Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use the digest form, but I am pretty sure the principal field contents the correct value. I pasted in the quotes too. Notes removed them when I clicked OK. PRINCIPAL is the sender and is correct field. But it works

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-06-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. Peter Flass [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, unix is unix (or Linux). The problems come from the basic design; if you changed the design, it wouldn't be unix.

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Mark, Even when not using digest, the SENDER is still the listserv. The FROM is the original sender of the message. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All opinions are strictly my own. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:02:11 -0400, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Even when not using digest, the SENDER is still the listserv. The FROM is the original sender of the message. Wayne Driscoll Sorry, I should have been more clear. I am referring to SENDER that notes uses for

Re: CA-TopSecret SP1 (and above) CICS SIGNON Problem

2007-06-19 Thread Kelman, Tom
You mean you haven't tried my new time machine? :-) Sorry, that should have been January 6, 2008. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth E Tomiak Sent: Monday, June 18,

Re: CMS/DOD idle connection requirements

2007-06-19 Thread Chris Mason
David I'm paying attention here mainly because VTAM is mentioned. I wonder exactly what the concern of your VTAM guy is. I don't believe there are any timing specifications under VTAM control which can affect established sessions[1]. There is only one which can affect idle connections, the

Re: Capacity and Relational Database

2007-06-19 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. IBMsysProg wrote: From a software architecture standpoint, Multi Regions, Independent locking (IRLM), Automated Recovery (DBRC), and DASD Logging became the

Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
We are doing this next weekend :) I would like to ask the groups about dividing the CP to LP. We run 4 LPARS in monoplex mode. Our usual weighting is 850 for Production, 150 for development and 50 each for two sandboxes. SRM says I have 115 Mips and/or 5612.0659SU/sec Cheryl says more like 104

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 12:18:32 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 13:02:11 -0400, Wayne Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark, Even when not using digest, the SENDER is still the listserv. The FROM is the original sender of the message. Wayne Driscoll But for some

Re: IBMLINK Planned outage?

2007-06-19 Thread Glenn Miller
Well, Technically, the IBMLINK Website contains a news item, dated: June 6, 2007 that says: This is a reminder about the weekly maintenance hours for IBMLink. Changes for IBMLink and/or changes to the infrastructure upon which IBMLink is dependent occur as required between Saturday 9:00 PM

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Kirk Talman
I tried using color a few minutes ago. Wouldn't work. Took Lotus client down and back up. It now works. PC software - when in doubt, reboot. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/19/2007 03:16:22 PM: Well... it is working now. I'm not sure why it wasn't before.

Re: IBMLINK Planned outage?

2007-06-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:49:41 -0400, Robert Justice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he didn't come right back and say, oh, hey, didn't you know, that was a planned outage? seems like he would have known, considering I've been keeping after him on these web ibmlink issues and I know for a fact that he

Re: Identify ibm-main posts on Lotus Notes

2007-06-19 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:58:36 -0400, Kirk Talman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried using color a few minutes ago. Wouldn't work. Took Lotus client down and back up. It now works. PC software - when in doubt, reboot. IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/19/2007

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
If I f***-up, my ass is grass :) I'm hoping for some moral courage :) Hell, it's only 1.8 bigger and each CP is about 65% of my Uni now. zPCR says I'm likely to avoid short CPU, but I claim to get paid to worry... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

IBMLINK Planned outage?

2007-06-19 Thread Phil Payne
Some techie yelled it over the cubical walls: IBM´Link is coming down for maintenance! Some techie yelled it over the cubicle walls: IBM´Link has come down for maintenance! -- Phil Payne http://www.isham-research.co.uk +44 7833 654 800

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
It came with a shiny new hard-hat and a footstool also. No rope :( -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

Re: JES2 1.7 IP NJE problem

2007-06-19 Thread Bill Planer
There is an enabling PTF for IP NJE support for 1.7. I'm not a work so I don't know the APAR or PTF number, but I think it became available late last year. You need to have that on. J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I am having problems getting JES2 IP NJE to work

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 14:42:47 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: If I f***-up, my ass is grass :) I'm hoping for some moral courage :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 2:29 PM To:

Re: IBMLINK Planned outage?

2007-06-19 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 22:32:21 +0100, Phil Payne wrote: Some techie yelled it over the cubical walls: IBM´Link is coming down for maintenance! Some techie yelled it over the cubicle walls: IBM´Link has come down for maintenance! Are you sure this isn't a typo ??? Shouldn't this be IBMLINK

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Shane
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 14:42 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: If I f***-up, my ass is grass :) I'm hoping for some moral courage :) Hell, it's only 1.8 bigger and each CP is about 65% of my Uni now. zPCR says I'm likely to avoid short CPU, but I claim to get paid to worry... O.K.,I'm going with

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Shane
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 08:10 +1000, Shane wrote: That 703 reference makes no sense at all to me. Aahhh - o.k., now I get it. Amazing the clarity that first dose of caffeine of the morning engenders. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Multiple TSO logons

2007-06-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
R.S. wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: [...] ALL private SVC's and modules that front-ended or replaced IBM modules had to be provided to us in source form, with all macros, etc. required for assembly. NDA's were properly executed and code was provided, or we didn't buy the product. Period. The

Re: Simple (???) VSAM ESDS question

2007-06-19 Thread Rick Fochtman
snip- The first two bytes specify the segment length. The next two bytes specify the segment number of the spanned record. The next 4 bytes are the standard RDW bytes for the record itself, especially if it is a variable length record.

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-19 Thread Clem Clarke
Kirk Wolf wrote: Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: What are you defining a current JCL symbol to be? Show us an example. On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 15:17:57 -0500, Kirk Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how to read the current JCL symbols from a program? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies

Re: HASPINDX Dynamic Allocation Error

2007-06-19 Thread Mohan
Thank you Lizette Mark for your response. Here I added the INDXVOL parameter under the ISFPRM member restarted the SDSF, now everything is perfect. Thanks a lot for your help. Sorry for the delayed response as i was sick. Thanks Mohan Vel C.A

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread John Ticic
-- snip -- When we upgraded to the z9 from a z800, the biggest shock was HSA. 1.4 Gig for HSA and no warning it would be that bad ??? I read about its impact, but never imagined it would be so much. Wiped out a whole LPAR I had planned. I concentrated on reviewing a paper called Moving to fewer

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 06/20/2007 12:28:12 AM: -- snip -- When we upgraded to the z9 from a z800, the biggest shock was HSA. 1.4 Gig for HSA and no warning it would be that bad ??? I read about its impact, but never imagined it would be so much. Wiped

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
I might have to look at capping if we go further down the SCRT and perhaps zNALC route, but for now, no hard capping. Rehosing fees are likely to cost one ISV with only one JCL related product at our site a customer. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-19 Thread Gibney, Dave
Actually it seems to be my dyslexia :) or at least trying to read upside down. It's a z9BC (2096) S07 - L03 ...sorry about the confusion -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shane Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2007 3:21 PM To: