If we did do Sysplex, would we still be able to maintain that separation
between the environments? How? Does anybody have a cookbook on how
to go from where we are to where we should be? And how does the change
affect the way we do things? i.e. what do we need to warn our customers
about?
It
If you use the same userid on all systems, your users are going to complain as
there can be only one userid with the same name in the sysplex, Mark Zeldens
instructions in how-to-overcome that not withstanding.
I've used the same ID on multiple systems for years. I even wrote a REXX EXEC
to
Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote in message
news:1940869721-1250064774-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1268
4658...@bxe1287.bisx.prod.on.blackberry...
If you use the same userid on all systems, your users are going to
complain as there can be only one userid with the same name in
I need to take our existing RACF profiles across to a new z/OS system which
has an existing RACF database and somehow merge them into the new system.
Is there a way to accomplish this. I can't simply replace the RACF database
on the new system with my existing one because it contains profiles
Denis,
Thanks for the excellent argumentation. I basically concur with you.
I'd like to reply to a few arguments, though:
1. Today's JVMs offer the option to have the byte code compiled on the
fly when certain conditions are met. So, these JVMs already have the
capability to run machine code
Jim, it's not the recommended function for this, but you can use irrut400.
That will merge
two databases, you specify the primary and copy in without replace,
everything from the secondary. You'll have to do a good bit of manual
checking and accomodating, but it's a start.
Mary Anne
On Wed, Aug
Lizette Koehler wrote:
Once we changed the device definition on both ML2 and TAPECOPY to 3592-
2 it worked. The 3592-1
So, we are now having DFHSM ML2 and TAPECOPY tapes [ ... snipped ... ]
Sorry Lizette, but could you be very kind to tell us what you wanted to write
in the sentence starting
Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
Jim, it's not the recommended function for this, but you can use irrut400.
That will merge two databases,
No! It is NOT true! IRRUT400 will NOT do that intended merging.
As documented in Security Server RACF System Programmer's Guide:
Restriction: Do not use IRRUT400
Yes, there is a tendency to drift; so what?
The downside of that is that the ISPPROF datasets will have different contents.
That's what I meant by 'drift'.
And, I still say: So what?
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Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:58:18 -0500 Patrick O'Keefe patrick.oke...@wamu.net
wrote:
:On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:37:31 -0500, Rick Fochtman
:rfocht...@ync.net wrote:
:
:
:... I was told that if you couldn't master the concepts of
:blocking/deblocking in BSAM, you had no business messing
:around with
Um, YES, It IS true! I have done it! ;)
I did state that it is not the recommended use.
MA
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote:
Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
Jim, it's not the recommended function for this, but you can use irrut400.
That
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Hi everyone,
I ended up using the OPSCAWTO
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 4:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: moving RACF profiles to a new system
I need to take our existing RACF profiles across to a new
snip
We have 3 LPARs configured as monoplex. One for our Production
environment, one for our Test/QA environment, and one for our
Application Development environment.
From this discussion, it sounds like everybody is saying even we would
benefit from Sysplex.
/snip
The purpose of a sysplex is
Afterword:
snipAnd what about the non-IBM components? We run ADABAS/Natural from
Software Ag.
/snip
Most major software vendors have had to coexist in or with a SYSPLEX
environment for at least 10 years. I would expect them to be able to
cope!
Check with the vendor for specific information.
Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
Um, YES, It IS true! I have done it! ;)
You can indeed use IRRUT400 to join different RACF DBs into one. The
prefered input for such an operation is where the different RACF DBs were
previously split by IRRUT400.
I did state that it is not the recommended use.
I did
Sure,
The 3295-1 will only create unencrypted tapes. And due to the way DFHSM works,
you cannot chang the TAPECOPY, for instance, to 3592-2 and leave ML2 at 3592-1.
So both parts, ML2 and TAPECOPY, need to be the same device type which in our
case is the 3592-2 device type.
Lizette
Nicely worded, Ed. Maybe I'm not imagining things when I believe IBM is more
interested in closing open problem records than in solving the underlying
problems. It didn't used to be this way. Having posted this publicly, can I
assume you don't mind if I use the same response?
Are you sure you
Barbara
No USS in my post!
It was my intention to change the Subject line to your new one - but I forgot!
Sorry.
There are some subject line policemen out there of whom we need to be wary!
Chris Mason
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 01:04:08 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net
wrote:
... only the
Barbara wrote:
If you use the same userid on all systems, your users are going to
complain as there can be only one userid with the same name in the
sysplex,
Huh? I've been using the same userid on multiple systems in a sysplex
since sysplex was invented.
Mark Zeldens instructions in
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:16:01 -0500, Martin Kline martin.kl...@yrcw.com wrote:
Nicely worded, Ed. Maybe I'm not imagining things when I believe IBM is more
interested in closing open problem records than in solving the underlying
problems. It didn't used to be this way. Having posted this
Allan,
The OP was asking about using Sysplex to join his three monoplexes into a
single Sysplex. Availability may have been the original purpose of Sysplex,
but it can and has been used for other purposes since it's inception. You have
obviously not been following the recent discussion that
http://www.type80.com/products_syslog.htm
Dennis Barrett
dbarr...@lacledegas.com
-Original Message-
From: גדי בן אבי [mailto:gad...@malam.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 02:51
Subject: Sending z/OS Messages to external syslog server
Hi,
Does anyone know of a way to send
Hi ,
We hit a problem that our cics cannot utilized more than one CPU
processor and IBM recommend our shop upgrade to CICSplex .Except this,
is there any other way to solve this problem?
any comment will be appreciated
best regards
I rarely see anything being promoted anymore, which is unfortunate, as it
was usually very good info. Yuri Kritchevers pmr's come to mind. Also Bruce,
forget what area he was in, and Donna in I/O.
Excellent info in them, usually very detailed answers. SIS now seems to be
just a search for apars,
I agree. 1 sysplex for all is not a good design point for the O/P. I
believe he could still benefit from a 2 sysplex design in the same box.
1 for Prod, and 1 for DEV/TEST/QA. Two LPARs for each.
snip
The OP was asking about using Sysplex to join his three monoplexes into
a single Sysplex.
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Hi ,
We hit a problem that our cics cannot utilized more than one CPU
processor and IBM recommend our shop upgrade to CICSplex .Except this,
is there any other way to solve this problem?
any
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 06:55:33 -0400, Mary Anne Matyaz
maryanne4...@gmail.com wrote:
Jim, it's not the recommended function for this, but you can use irrut400.
That will merge
two databases, you specify the primary and copy in without replace,
everything from the secondary. You'll have to do a good
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Can CICS region share more than one processor
Hi ,
We hit a problem that our cics cannot
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:54:11 +0100, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote:
I need to take our existing RACF profiles across to a new z/OS system which
has an existing RACF database and somehow merge them into the new system.
Is there a way to accomplish this. I can't simply replace the RACF
- Original Message
From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com
BTW, for small packets of data, I believe ESCON links are actually faster
than FICON.
I think I have seen a paper on this, but I can't remember where.
You are right:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:34:16 -0700, Walter Marguccio
walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message
From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com
BTW, for small packets of data, I believe ESCON links are actually faster
than FICON.
I think I have seen a paper on this, but I can't
Allan,
I am curious why you would need to take an outage to harden any dynamic
changes to the IODF?
Scott
Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com 8/12/2009 8:54 AM
The purpose of a sysplex is z/OS availability. I commonly go 3 months
between outages (production IPL's) and I am in the middle
Well then, you don't agree with me!
There are many smaller shops which share DASD across PROD/DEV/TEST, and a
Sysplex can be a very appropriate configuration for them.
Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com 8/12/2009 10:01 AM
I agree. 1 sysplex for all is not a good design point for the O/P.
Ah yes, that was it. That is why I use ESCON for 1k messages, and use my ICF
for larger messages, since I don't have a FICON CTC set up. The vast majority
of the messages in my Sysplex fir in the 1k class.
Walter Marguccio walter_marguc...@yahoo.com 8/12/2009 10:34 AM
- Original
Hello all, I am trying to move the CDS backups currently from tape
using HSM as the datamover and noparallel to disk using DSS and
parallel.
The manual states that I have to preallocate the new dasd backup
datasets but thats all, so do I use the same dcb characteristics as the
current tape
Gil,
The requirement to separate by volume refers to the BCDS, MCDS and OCDS not
their Backups.
The jcl to allocate the backup datasets is in Sys1.samplib(ARCSTRST) look for
ALLOCBK1
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
Jim
I will spare all who have been reading all the history of this on IBMMAIN
about my strong recommendation for those running SNA networks to strongly
consider the need for a SNA Firewall.
Which means you haven't spared us at all! I recognise a trick to which I
succumb myself when the
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:59:52 -0500, Rick Fochtman
rfocht...@ync.net wrote:
Ok. I didn't word things very clearly.
...
QSAM handles individual members just fine so FIND, READ, WRITE
and STOW are working under the covers. Seems like that covers
most of the functions.
Here I was just trying to
Hal
Since you were asking in public, I assumed the reply would be in public.
You could, after all, have asked in private.
Um, I said I don't discuss off list conversations and gave one reason.
Um, perhaps you didn't notice that I pointed out you asked in public and that
at the very least I
- Original Message
From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
So FICON is better with current technology regardless. But for those
using old technology, does anyone know what the typical / average size
of GRS XCF messages are in a ring? Scott, are you lurking? :-)
Typical size
Gil,
The manual says to allocate the backups on volumes other than the ones
containing the CDSs being backed up.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT)
We hit a problem that our cics cannot utilized more than one CPU processor and
IBM recommend our shop upgrade to CICSplex.
Except this, is there any other way to solve this problem?
I suggest you ask the CICS-L.
Depending on your needs, there are multiple ways to handle this 'issue'.
CICS has
Thanks for the info Dave. The section I was reading was in the z/OS
1.9 Admin Guide Chapter 12 page 474 that says:
If you decide to back up the control data sets and journal data set to
DASD, you must preallocate the data sets. Also, allocate the different
versions of the backup data sets on
snip
I am curious why you would need to take an outage to harden any dynamic
changes to the IODF?
/snip
It was IODF and microcode. I am limited to a single CEC (a Z/9).
Eventually, dynamic IODF changes will fail when the allocated HSA fills
up. Either that, or an LPAR won't activate because the
Just allocate it in the logon clist with SYSNAME.
That's what my EXEC did.
But, it also created a new one for a system that you had not signed onto
before, by copying your original ISPPROF dataset.
I last updated the EXEC for a 1.4 system, when profile sharing was not
supported.
It's nice to
thanks I will check CICS-L for more information
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Ted MacNEILeamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote:
We hit a problem that our cics cannot utilized more than one CPU processor
and IBM recommend our shop upgrade to CICSplex.
Except this, is there any other way to solve this
Of course, since this requires rewriting, or at least validating, the current
code to be ThreadSafe, this is not really a good option.
Why?
Since when is improving application code a bad option?
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
Martin Kline wrote:
Nicely worded, Ed. Maybe I'm not imagining things when I believe IBM is more
interested in closing open problem records than in solving the underlying
problems. It didn't used to be this way. Having posted this publicly, can I
assume you don't mind if I use the same
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:08:53 -0700, Walter Marguccio
walter_marguc...@yahoo.com wrote:
- Original Message
From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
So FICON is better with current technology regardless. But for those
using old technology, does anyone know what the typical /
snip---
I once accidently swapped INDDn with OUTDDn with *predictable* results. ;)
It was one of the longest 5 minutes in my life to fix things... 8-D
---unsnip
BTDTGTSS. Makes you really
There does seem to be much more emphasis on getting PMRs closed than before.
Someone's performance appraisal is probably based on the number of open (or
closed) PMRs. After all, closed means resolved. Right?
I've found this behaviour quite common with IBM, at least since I opened my
first
I am getting ratios of 30:1 or better of small messages to large, and IIRC
it is even higher when using GRS-Ring. So, ESCON CTCs do very well in a
Basic Sysplex, where the majority of messages are GRS ENQ traffic.
If I had a FICON switch in my environment, I would use single FICON channels
in
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:31 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Can CICS region share more than one processor
Of course, since this requires rewriting, or
Edward Jaffe wrote:
Martin Kline wrote:
Nicely worded, Ed. Maybe I'm not imagining things when I believe IBM
is more interested in closing open problem records than in solving the
underlying problems. It didn't used to be this way. Having posted this
publicly, can I assume you don't mind if I
Lizette Koehler wrote:
The 3295-1 will only create unencrypted tapes. And due to the way DFHSM
works, you cannot chang the TAPECOPY, for instance, to 3592-2 and leave
ML2 at 3592-1. So both parts, ML2 and TAPECOPY, need to be the same
device type which in our case is the 3592-2 device type.
John,
Of course you are right.
But it's now and into the future about share holder value...to coin a phrase I
heard while working for Best Foods in Englewoodcliffs, N.J. ... from the
President of the North American Division O' by the way he was from Germany.
--- On Wed, 8/12/09, McKown,
Gil,
That was probably written 20 years ago when a volume meant a SLED and it
would have been prudent to protect yourself against a disk failure. With
RAID the need for separate volumes for these backups is debatable.
To get the same hardware separation with RAID you need a map of Device
Number
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[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:45 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Can CICS region share more than one processor
John,
Of course you are right.
But
According to IBM, in z/OS 1.10, we can no longer define a VSAM dataset with
the data CA track sizes of 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10 thru 14 tracks.
Snipet of II14458 (dated 12/14/08):
When a VSAM data set or ICF Catalog is defined or redefined on
z/OS version 1 release 10 the index cisize may be increased.
Hi,
I am trying to execute the following query command via a batch job. The reason
for this is to create audit trails for our internal inspectors
HSEND Q BACKUP(ALL). If the command is issued via TSO I get the desired
results however via batch (jcl below) I am getting syntax errors
On 12 Aug 2009 10:00:07 -0700, jmck...@healthmarkets.com (McKown,
John) wrote:
But it's now and into the future about share holder
value...to coin a phrase I heard while working for Best Foods
in Englewoodcliffs, N.J. ... from the President of the
North American Division O' by the way he
John,
There are a couple of options I can think of.
This will get you a list of all backup volumes that are not full - but only
tape volumes.
HSEND LIST TTOC SELECT(BACKUP NOTFULL) NODSI ODS(output.dataset.name)
This will list all backup volumes - full or not full. Should include disk.
HSEND
List and Query are not the same command.
Thank You,
Dave O'Brien
NIH Contractor
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John
Dawes [jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:25 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
While that would solve my problem, wouldn't that cause the same problem
for the users of the original?
My reading seems to indicate that it's possible to have multiple members
of the same name in different libs, which seems to be the point of a
default name of IRFXUSER in the function naming
Rick,
Thanks for the suggestions. I tried them both and I got the information I was
looking for.
--- On Thu, 13/8/09, Adams, Rick rick.ad...@fmr.com wrote:
From: Adams, Rick rick.ad...@fmr.com
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RUNNING QUERY COMMAND IN BATCH
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received:
Can I run the QUERY command in batch?
--- On Thu, 13/8/09, O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
wrote:
From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] obrie...@mail.nih.gov
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - RUNNING QUERY COMMAND IN BATCH
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Thursday, 13
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:57:30 -0500, Todd Last wrote:
According to IBM, in z/OS 1.10, we can no longer define a VSAM dataset with
the data CA track sizes of 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10 thru 14 tracks.
Snipet of II14458 (dated 12/14/08):
When a VSAM data set or ICF Catalog is defined or redefined on
z/OS
Tom you mentiond Z/OS 1.10
This sounds like an issue from an earlier release of z/OS...
I could be wrong...
Paul D'Angelo
Enterprise System Software
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Yes, but the following note is from the Query syntax section of the reference
manual:
The QUERY command does not support sending the results of the query to
an output data set; however, it does support extended consoles. Using
TSO/E extended consoles, you can submit programs that can issue a
The QUERY command does have an ODS operand. Remove it and the output will go
to SYSTSPRT.
-Original Message-
From: John Dawes [mailto:jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 10:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: DFHSM QUESTION - RUNNING QUERY COMMAND IN BATCH
Hi,
I use DBSYNC for that kind of thing ...
run DBSYNC on the system that you want to copy from, edit the output
REXX that it generates to make sure it's doing what you want and then
run it on the system you're copying to ...
--Stephen
Jim McAlpine wrote:
I need to take our existing RACF
Todd Last wrote:
According to IBM, in z/OS 1.10, we can no longer define a VSAM dataset with
the data CA track sizes of 2, 4, 6, 8, or 10 thru 14 tracks.
Snipet of II14458 (dated 12/14/08):
When a VSAM data set or ICF Catalog is defined or redefined on
z/OS version 1 release 10 the index
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:50:29 -0700, Edward Jaffe
edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote:
...
There does seem to be much more emphasis on getting PMRs
closed than before. Someone's performance appraisal is
probably based on the number of open (or closed) PMRs. ...
I've also noticed a tendency for
Remember in theory there is no difference between theory and practice, in
practice there is.
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:54:40 -0500, McKown, John
jmck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
giggle Theoretically that is true. The reality sometimes varies. In most
cases that I've seen in the US, it is
In the old days, a CICS subsystem's capacity was limited by
the amount of CPU TCB time needed for that single QR TCB.
Based on my analysis when OTE was brand new, of the CPU time
consumed by each of these new CICS TCBs, I planned this post
to argue that going to OTE didn't help much, because most
Jantje,
I am intrigued. Can you elaborate a bit on this idea?
[Doc pointers, code samples, etc.]
TIA,
-Victor-
==
Date:Mon, 10 Aug 2009 05:40:50 -0500
From:Jan MOEYERSONS jan.moeyers...@adelior.be
Subject: Re: Trigger CICS transaction from Batch
I will be out of the office starting 08/12/2009 and will not return until
08/17/2009.
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On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:34:17 -1000, Stephen Y Odo
step...@hawaii.edu wrote:
We have 3 LPARs configured as monoplex. One for our Production
environment, one for our Test/QA environment, and one for our
Application Development environment.
From this discussion, it sounds like everybody is saying
On 8/12/2009 at 12:02 AM, in message
listserv%200908120102327289.0...@bama.ua.edu, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net
wrote:
You will need to define GRS RNLs. You will need to combine your separate WLM
policies. If you use the same userid on all systems, your users are going to
complain as there
Does the ISPF PROFILE_SHARING feature address this issue?
On 8/12/2009 at 3:00 AM, in message
3310ac9d797ec94db8d89ccabdea47a7010a0...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net,
Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.vern...@klm.com wrote:
Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca wrote in message
Hi Dana,
we had a similar problem and looked at both freeware and alternative low
cost solutions for this. In our case we have two CEC each with four LPARs.
After experimenting with TSSO our management rejected it, because we could
not afford to make a system programmer resource available to
Thank you! As the original poster, I got a bit confused with Allan's
recommendation, as I could have sworn others were recommending one Sysplex
owning both PROD and TEST/DEV. Thought maybe I had misinterpreted everything
and had to start over! :-)
--
Frank Swarbrick
Applications Architect
Thanks for the compliment. The company name is Syzygy :), but it's
frequently misspelled.
The web site for the automation products is www.SyzygyInc.com
Brian
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If you use the same userid on all systems, your users are going to
complain as there can be only one userid with the same name in the
sysplex,
Huh? I've been using the same userid on multiple systems in a sysplex
since sysplex was invented.
Then your setup was quite clearly different. The idea
Nicely worded, Ed. Maybe I'm not imagining things when I believe IBM is more
interested in closing open problem records than in solving the underlying
problems. It didn't used to be this way.
You mean IBM has been lying to me when they tell me I am the only obstinate
one? g,dr
There does
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