REXX HI vs HE

2009-06-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
What is the supposed difference between HI and HE to REXX? I have never been able to terminate an errant exec under TSO with an HI (even though the response to ATTN tells me I can). Is there anything that would make HI work in some installations but not others? I specifically said "in some instal

Re: Any products to protect MVS software from cracking and reverse engineering?

2009-06-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:41:27 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: >... >Frankly, I would much rather all that effort be put into making the >product more robust and easier to use. ... Doubly so since anything that succeeds in "protecting" the code will make debugging the code harder Debugging and crack

Re: Throttling FTP

2009-06-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 16:40:08 -0400, Clark, Kevin wrote: >... >I would go with setting up Quality of Service (QoS) mechanisms on your >CISCO router, if FTP traffic is impacting your interactive workload. >... However, you should not ignore what John McKown said. Look at the Policy Agent's QoS

Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 11:56:11 -0500, John Au wrote: >... >We included a default COS definition in our startup options >(APPNCOS=#CONNECT) and now everything is working great! >The information you provided was very helpful. Thanks a million. >... Actually, I was talking about DYNMODTB. Good th

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 10:18:11 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: >... >That's why we suggest doing those compiles with our C/C++ compiler >running in IBM compatibility mode on a local workstation... saves >a lot of memory & CPU.. and, if you are being billed for those, >it can save a ton of $$$. >.

Re: strange codepage issue in ISPF

2009-06-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 06:03:01 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: >... >Ah! Maybe part of the problem is language. In [American] English: > > ( and ) are parentheses > { and } are braces (not "curly braces", just "braces") > [ and ] are brackets (not "square brackets", just "brackets") > >Of course

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products

2009-06-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:53:52 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >... >FTP is not unsafe. >Accessing the data is (potentially). >... In the shops (ok, shop) I've worked that prohibited FTPs to/from the mainframe they allowed SOME FTPs - FTPs with those business partners that, for whatever reason, could not

Re: Why are z/OS people reluctant to use z/OS UNIX?

2009-06-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009 06:41:53 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: >..."They seem to regard UNIX on z/OS as an abomination.") > >I'd like to understand this visceral reaction, with an >eye to seeing what can be done to moderate it down to at >least a level of skepticism ("OK, what can this do for >me?"). >

Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 12:53:06 -0700, John Au wrote: >... >Do you remember if you had to convert all the APPLIDs to use >APPC=YES? Yes I do (remember) , and know I didn't (have to make the change). No LU definition changes were needed. The only thing beyond the actual connectivity-related defin

Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 1 Jun 2009 18:43:15 -0500, Chris Mason wrote: >... >Incidentally, a systems programmer there has even researched >using VTAM generic resources with Supersession with success. >We hope to put that into production in the near future all in support >of the general objective of introducin

Re: CL/Supersession and APPN

2009-06-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 2 Jun 2009 09:23:52 -0700, John Au wrote: >... he was able to get APPN working, but >now he is struggling with CL/Supersession. Any help you can provide >would be most appreciated. >... I haven't been in a shop with Supersession for over 5 years but I had no trouble getting it to work

Re: SMP/E packaging of maintence / products (was: FMID descriptions)

2009-05-30 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 30 May 2009 11:43:13 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >... >Someone here once suggested that all local storage of unloaded >relative files should be eliminated: it shouldn't be RECEIVE >FROMNETWORK, but APPLY FROMNETWORK, accessing "the Great SMPPTS >in the Sky." ... That would be great for

Re: Duplicate temp file

2009-05-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 29 May 2009 13:14:10 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: >... >I guess I don't understand. The temp file doesn't need a name? >... You not only don't have to supply a name, the JCL Ref manual recommends you do not specify one if you want to assure unique temporary dataset names. If you spec

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 27 May 2009 18:22:22 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>When I was a systems programmer at ADR, we had one programmer with the bad habit of resting his box of punch cards on the 1403 > >BTDT. >... Or, ... On the the punch side of the 2540 there was a little platform about 1 card's width an

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:45:06 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >... >By the way, for the 96 column card, did each row go from left to >right, or on one row did the columns go from right to left? I was >just thinking that when you punched a 96 column card in a >keypunch, it would be easier to move

Re: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 26 May 2009 23:37:49 -0400, Scott T. Harder wrote: >... >Never heard of 96-column cards, though. Just some ignorance on my >part with that one. >... The "96-column" card was really 3 tiers of 32 columns. 6 bits per logical column.It was small (3-1/4 inch wide by 2-5/8 inch high) wi

MFC? (was: Book on Poughkeepsie

2009-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:18:58 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: >... >the 1442 "Multifunction Card Machine", also known as "Mother >Fletcher's Card Mulcher"? ... I remember things a bit differently. Back in the late '60s I was an operator in an IBM Datacenter and Busuness System Center. In t

Untouchable architectures( Was: checking for the existence of a file in batch REXX)

2009-05-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 21 May 2009 15:09:38 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >...the architecture should NEVER get in the way of the business! Unfortunately, "religion and politics" sometimes trump business logic. If upper management has its collective ego tied up with the current architecture and knows that that a

Re: Article from SearchSecurity.com

2009-05-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 19 May 2009 14:40:02 -0500, Shedlock, George wrote: >You can also find a copy of this white paper here: (watch the wrap) >http://www.acxiom.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/website- resources/pdf/White_Papers/AC-2011-08%20The%20Relaity% 20Facing%20The%20Manframe%20World.pdf >... An oursourci

Re: IBMLink broken again?

2009-05-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 19 May 2009 08:37:47 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote: >I can't access IBMLink through the web this morning. Any one else? > >Greenscreen works, as usual. >... This was a test. They are making sure they are ready to support the sunsetting of Green Screen access. They are. After July 1 w

Re: IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation

2009-05-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 18 May 2009 10:03:22 -0600, Howard Brazee wrote: >... >My age only matters of one thing - if I wanted to retire today, I'd >get my pension. >... Really? My knees envy you. But getting back to the memory lane slide show, I'm a bit surprised the 650 is not included. It may not have bee

Re: IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation

2009-05-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 15 May 2009 18:44:43 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: >... >Yup. 59 on August 2. Started as a Systems Programmer on January 2, 1970. >... Gees. The youngsters we've got around here. At least 59 is respectable - approaching maturity. 63 here, but who's counting. Pat O'Keefe ---

Re: VM ServiceLink going away for good this time?

2009-05-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 15 May 2009 09:48:41 -0700, Gibney, Dave wrote: > Well, it's only been a couple months since the last spate of missives >on this list about the web ibmlink being down :( > > I won't enjoy my drop in efficiency needing to GUI around without >command line shortcuts. >... I won't enjoy i

Re: IBM Mainframe: 50 Years of Big Iron Innovation

2009-05-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 15 May 2009 12:17:00 -0400, Michael Sullivan wrote: >Nice visual walk down memory lane, for you old timers out there ; ) >... Excuse me, but that's "Long timers". We prefer to avoid the word "old". What is sequence here? ASCII collating sequence? It's not by date. Their jump from

Re: TSO XMIT blocksize

2009-05-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 4 May 2009 15:17:55 -0500, Field, Alan C. wrote: >++ USERMOD (LM00062) REWORK(2008001) >... >++ ZAP (INMXM) . >... Uh, thanks, but that probably isn't going to fly. We've got all non-HIPR maint frozen until we disappear from the face of the earth later this year. :-( But I guess tha

TSO XMIT blocksize

2009-05-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Is there any way to get TSO XMIT to use a reasonable blksize? I reblocked an XMIT dataset of a PDS to BLKSIZE=27920 and TSO RECEIVE had no trouble processing it. I assume that means there is no technical reason that the blocksize has to be 3120 (at least for my simple purposes). Is there an op

Re: CONNECT:Direct performance problem

2009-05-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 2 May 2009 21:34:38 -0400, Scott T. Harder wrote: >Wow, Pat. Is there anything you can do to try to create an environment >such as is with the long x-missions? I hate to be trite, but it sounds >like you have too many things going on and you need to take them one >at a time. >... My

CONNECT:Direct performance problem

2009-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
We have recently run into a very odd performance problem with Sterling Commerce's CONNECT:Direct (aka NDM). We've opened a problem ticket on this but I'd like to see if any other users C:D users have seen anything similar. Some time over the last 2 or 3 weeks we've seen a very large increase in

Re: ADRDSSU protection [was:RE: Using FTP to send loadlib]

2009-04-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:07:30 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >... >The scenario presented is that someone elsewhere has unloaded >a load module library, to which he has proper authority, with >ADRDSSU and transmitted the archive by FTP, carrier pigeon, >whatever, to me here, where I have at least R

Re: Using FTP to send loadlib

2009-04-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:31:00 -0700, Lionel B Dyck wrote: >... >type e >mode b >cd LIONEL.LOAD >lcd LIONEL.LOAD >Put TESTMOD >Close >Quit >/* >... I know that the Type and Mode are necessary if you want to transfer ISPF stats, as in Type E MODE B LOCSI

Re: Effective pipeline programming

2009-04-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:35:17 -0700, John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-) wrote: Cross-posted to the Assembler Listserver. >Check the SHARE proceedings for presentations by David Bond titled >"Coding Assembler for Performance". Excellent advice therein. >John Ehrman I found it as "Session 8192

Re: Data masking/data disguise Primer 1) WHY

2009-04-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:39:29 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >... >Many business processes *do* require the "real" data. Format >preservation does not help when sort order is affected. When a >business needs to determine a 9-digit zip code from the customer >address, format preservation w

Lisp (was: insane thought - SMF reformatter?)

2009-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:26:53 -0400, David Andrews wrote: >> Does anybody else think that [SMF data as XML] would be useful for >> most, if not all, of the SMF data? >... >> With XML, I can more easily write my own stuff in Java or a >>number of other languages which can handle XML (such as Perl

Re: SFTP to/from z/OS datasets with Tectia

2009-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:53:55 -0500, Brian Peterson wrote: >Just in case you hadn't heard about this, here's an alternative for your >consideration: > >http://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html >... I have seen mention of that. That may be the next step, but as I understand it, the Tectia product

SFTP to/from z/OS datasets with Tectia

2009-04-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
Sorry if this is a dupliccate posting. I think my first attempt went into the bit bucket. One of my coworkers has been asked to evalutate the Tectia Server for z/OS as a way to do SFTPs to/from z/OS datasets.He can read the manuals, but is more interested in what users think of the product.

XMITIP support, etc.

2009-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
The subject is to give the false impression that this is on topic. The real topic: "The status of Lionel". Lionel, you are still around with a Kaiser email addr. Is this good news or just bad news delayed? I was afraid we might have heard the last of you - especially with the disclaimer on your

Re: IP address for testcase.boulder.ibm.com will be changing on April 26 2009 to 170.225.15.31 from 207.25.253.31

2009-04-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:11:21 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >... >>But, why with such short notice? >> >To encourage use of domain names rather than IP addresses. >... A worthy goal, but not an effective technique. Access lists, NAT tables, etc., usually require IP addresses, not domain names. A

Re: XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
I rarely (like twice now) do batch executions of XMITIP but I just tried a batch execution of XMITIP 09.03 and got no errors. Can you post a copy of the IVP (with enough stuff munged to satisfy your minders)? Pat O'Keefe On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:51:12 -0500, Mark Steely wrote: >It just sending

Re: XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:17:00 -0500, Mark Steely wrote: >I am not using UDSMTP. I should have said UDSMTP or XMITSOCK. If you aren't using either of them XMITIP shouldn't be using sockets. What is your IVP trying to do? Pat O'Keefe ---

XMITIP Socket failure (was: Batch E-Mail)

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:37:44 -0500, Mark Steely wrote: Mostly just changing the subject so this problem doesn't get buried in our email rant thread. This could be a serious problem. >I am receiving the following messages after installation on the IVP job >steps: > >IRX0250E System abend code

Re: Batch E-Mail

2009-04-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:30:33 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >... >Yah, but if someone wants to put a graphic letterhead/foot >on his message, he'd prefer that you not need to open it >with an external viewer. >... Ah. Curmudgeon bait. And bait I cannot resist! Someone that wants to put a graph

Maintenance classes (was: BDAM vs VSAM)

2009-04-14 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:55:19 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >... >In which publication/URL are these maintenance classes documented? >Which publication/URL lists the various access methods and the class >of maintenance assigned to them? >... Creation of the maintenance classes certainly preceded

Re: BDAM vs VSAM

2009-04-13 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:44:23 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: >... IIRC, BDAM went Class-C on maintenance before the Format-1 >CCW existed. ... Ok. I have a faulty memory. Please 'splain me again "Class-C". I vaguely remember back when IBM was going OCO that they came up with some support classe

Re: FTP using symbolic names

2009-04-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 09:56:23 -0500, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >On VSE we are able to build symbolic names for use within FTP >commands. >... >Any thoughts about how I can do something similar using the z/OS >FTP client program? ... I haven't tried it, but there is the FTP REXX API where FTP can

Re: IBM Share Austin March 2 2009 conference feedback

2009-04-09 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 10:37:04 -0500, Anton Britz wrote: >... >h) Ed Jaffe > >You looked too young for your postings on IBM-MAIN. I was >looking for an older person , that are about to retire. >... Yup. Pretty soon he'll be old enough to drink. :-) Scott Fagen is another one. I expected a gr

Re: Happy 45th Birthday

2009-04-08 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:12:55 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >... >What about: > >704 -> 709 -> 7090 -> 7094 >... They should have mentioned upgrades like that. But to be fair, the progression you mention is mostly a temporal one (with overlap, to be sure). The ability for the S/360 custome

Re: TMON with OMEGAMON Comparison

2009-04-07 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:22:26 -0400, Dave Barry wrote: >... IMHO, feature-by-feature comparisons are less important than the >total solution. It depends on how the performance analyst's role is >defined in your organization. >... I'd say that feature-by-feature comparisons are VERY important i

Re: Can I do a Hex Sort in ISPF Edit?

2009-04-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:54:08 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: >... >> Big Problem. > >Well sure, if your talking Character hex; ... Whew! Glad you got that straightened out. I was afraid we were going have to find a class that could explain characters sets, hexidecimal numbers, etc. to you. :-)

Re: zOS 1.9 and Netview

2009-04-03 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009 18:49:59 -0700, Mark T. Regan, K8MTR wrote: >There is a NetView group on Yahoo Groups that has been in >operation since 2000.  >   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetView/ >The Group Email Addresses >Post message: netv...@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: netview-subscr...@yahoogro

Re: Big Iron Bucks the Trend

2009-03-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:22:47 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >..."After a September of turmoil in the financial services sector ..." >... >...far from transitioning away from Big Iron, customers seem to be >doubling down." >... Those customers left after the turmoil in the financial sector, that is

Re: "A foolish consistancy" or "3390 cyl/track architecture"

2009-03-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:50:16 -0500, Eric Bielefeld wrote: >... It just seems >like IBM could get away from the track and cylinder stuff, which >artificially restricts the amount of storage you use. If you use short >blocksizes, or long ones that just go over 1/2 track, you waste an >awfull lo

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:54:51 -0400, Bill Fairchild wrote: >... >In 1982 I attended a SHARE session in New Orleans in which the IBM presenter said that he had surveyed a huge number of data sets in an internal IBM development data center, and had found that the single most commonly used block

Re: Optimal Tape Blocksize

2009-03-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:21:20 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: >... >If there is a block size coded in the DCB macro (or FD), that is the >block size that will be used. JCL will not override it. Neither will >the label or the DSCB. >... It's worth remembering something said much earlier in this thr

Re: Message suppression (was: IEE252I MSG's)

2009-03-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:34:47 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>You can't use VTAM messages as a model. NetView and VTAM have a very special relationship. > >The suppression was more than VTAM messages. >The only reason I mentioned VTAM was because our VTAM/SNA team was responsible for NetView, as well

Re: Are IBM-MAIN usage guidelines posted somewhere?

2009-03-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 14:56:34 -0500, Gregory Pinkowski wrote: >Where are the rules for what subject matter is (or is not) permissible >to post to this list? Where are the general conduct guidelines posted? >... The guidelines are not particularly easy to find. I think they are included in th

Message suppression (was: IEE252I MSG's)

2009-03-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:23:45 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >... >We caught our VTAM ex-SYSPROG doing that over 20 years ago. > >Any commands he issued, through NetVIEW, were never logged anywhere (nor the results). > >I forget the exact combination, but there were options for: >NETLOG(Y/N) and >SYS

Re: MY REPLACEMENT

2009-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:28:46 -0700, daver++ wrote: >... >While this list does tend to be somewhat z/OS centric, my understanding >is that it is open to users of IBM mainframes (or similar) without >regard to operating system. I am fairly certain that there a number of >contributors to the list

Re: Multi-dimensional arrays in REXX

2009-03-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:21:12 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >... >The infrequency of use of a facility fails to justify the incorrect >description. Rather, it aggravates the astonishment factor when >the programmer encounters the behavior, perhaps inadvertently. >Suppose: > >X. = 'something'

Re: Multi-dimensional arrays in REXX

2009-03-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:36:24 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 15:21:31 -0500, Ian S. Worthington wrote: > >>Regrettably you can only set a default for the stem as a whole, not for a >>subset of the variable space. >> >It is *not* a default, and Rexx documentation avoids >the po

Re: Multi-dimensional arrays in REXX

2009-03-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:48:10 -0500, Ian S. Worthington wrote: >>> It implements them as a conceptual subset of stems, and >>> they are indexed with strings rather than by integers which >>>actually makes them rather more powerful once one breaks >>>out of the array mindset. >> I'm not sure

Re: MY REPLACEMENT

2009-03-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:03:48 -0400, STEVEN DAHARI wrote: >Running an ad is a waste of money and a waste of time. >The replacers already know what they are doing. >Economist, if they are worth a plug nickel, know what is being done. >Elected officials know what is being done. >The solution lies i

Re: SHARE Proceedings

2009-03-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:39:26 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >... >Austin was a great event. Lots of new and interesting information was >presented. Hopefully, the proceedings will give those of you unlucky >enough to have missed Austin a taste of what was presented and >even more justification to c

Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:12:08 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: >... >Why would existing definitions suddenly "break" if the length >restriction on symbolic values was removed? Seems to me that it >would be a transparent change. >... Nothing currently working would break ... until you change a symbol

Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009 11:08:39 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >... >And to enforce the misguided restriction on other users of system >symbols is throwing the baby out with the bath. >... Miguided nor not, one or more of the above have been thrown out. You could submit a formal request to have thi

Re: SYMDEF length limitations

2009-02-26 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:42:44 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote: >I RTFMed before asking, but it looked strange to me that the length >of the variable value is forced by the length of the variable name... >... I think the logic was to prevent JCL errors when symbols were expanded. Whether or not that

Re: FTP alternative needed

2009-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:19:33 -0800, Gibney, Dave wrote: > What's not secure about FTP with TLS/SSL or sftp using SSH? > If you don't like those solutions ... and all involved have shelled out big bucks for the base product, and all involved have shelled out big bucks for the security add-on,

Re: OSA's Error codes

2009-02-25 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:58:35 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: >... >The mystery is why CS IP selects an attempt to activate presumably - if I >dare to assume anything after this episode! - any interface as an excuse to >complain about the IUTSAMEH interface definition lacking an address defined >in

Re: What do you call...

2009-02-24 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:23:19 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:48:51 -0600, P S wrote: > >>...your: >> >>network folks >>security folks >>sysprogs >>applications programmers >>? >> > >1) Network folks >2) Security folks >3) Sysprogs >4) Application programmers > >:-) > >Ok... o

Re: Mantissa Presenting at SHARE (March 6, 2009)?

2009-02-22 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:14:14 -0700, Mark Post wrote: >... >I don't know how successful they'll be, but I wish them well. >... I take it, then, that you are an exponent of Mantissa. Sorry. I couldn't resist. Pat O'Keefe -- F

Re: How to sort ip address with dfsort ?

2009-02-19 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:13:10 -0800, Frank Yaeger wrote: >... >//SORTIN DD * >151.123.108.5 >10.251.6.170 >151.123.129.129 >151.123.236.18 >151.123.111.5 >151.123.113.5 >... >10.251.6.170 >151.123.108.5 >151.123.111.5 >151.123.113.5 >151.123.129.129 >151.123.236.18 >... A more revealing test mig

Re: Stopping FTP

2009-02-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:38:33 -0500, Gary DiPillo wrote: >John, > >The P command should do it. > >On my system, the D A,L command shows that the server is called >FTPSERVE, so I use P FTPSERVE to shut it down. S FTPSERVE (the >name of my FTP Server proc) starts it again. >... A side comment (

Re: I Just Registered for SHARE in Austin -- Have You?

2009-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 07:45:16 -0800, Edward Jaffe wrote: >... There are even a few "hand's in" opportunities (noted >as such in the session titles) that provide an opportunity to >help shape IBM's direction without the need for those "pesky" >formal requirements. ... As someone with a passing i

Re: zOS Application Monitoring/Automation/Control

2009-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 07:44:14 -0600, Rob Lister wrote: > >A lot of the products I used, Omegamon, Netview, OPC, etc have now >all been rebranded as Tivoli so pretty much every site I come across >has Tivoli. Does that mean they just have one or two products and >still use other vendors? >.

Re: Expired SHARE ID (Was: Macro-generated BAL/Rs)

2009-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:08:50 +, Jim McAlpine wrote: >>> Are there "partial" SHARE membership options? ... >That's the question I was asking. You may be able to get a SHARE userid and password without being a SHARE member. I think that used to be available but I'm not sure it still is. T

Re: Expired SHARE ID (Was: Macro-generated BAL/Rs)

2009-02-12 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:08:50 +, Jim McAlpine wrote: >... >>Are there "partial" SHARE membership options? Can one >>purchase the proceedings DVD for a price without being a >>member? >... >That's the question I was asking. > Well, on the SHARE website under "Trial Membership" is says "If

Re: Assembler Question

2009-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:21:16 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: >...Control Data Corporation was CDC >... >>I don't know what the "C" was for, but CDC ... Uh, I meant the C in BUNCH, not the Cs in CDC, but I can see how that might not have been completely clear. I guess. Pat O'Keefe

Re: Assembler Question

2009-02-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:05:27 EST, IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote: >... >I thought that the "C" in BUNCH was Compagnie des Machines Bull. >CDC made mainframe-compatible disk drives, though, I think, but >not central processors. >... I don't know what the "C" was for, but CDC definitely

Re: SV: PROGxx, linklist, LLA and fetch performance

2009-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:46:00 +0100, Thomas Berg wrote: >... >> I disagree. It ensures everybody is running the same code. >>... >And that is the problem. >If You - as we - have several DB2 systems in the same lpar/os. >And You MUST NOT upgrade them at the same time. >The reason for the latter i

Re: Interesting APAR OA27291 an undocumented change to GETMAIN Behavior in z/OS 1.10

2009-02-05 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:44:51 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>Just as a side note, I remember learning long ago to always >>initialize static areas > >Again, basic. >Again, I agree. > >And, I can't understand the defensive stants, of those who >don't/won't believe that basic programming is wrong! >

Re: TLS Cipher Suites

2009-02-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 15:45:42 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote: >Awesome! That was too easy. Now All I have to do is figure out what was displayed. The FM just identifies the message number as a response to a display. > >GSK01009I Cryptographic status 024 >Algorithm HardwareSoftware >DES

Re: TLS Cipher Suites

2009-02-04 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 4 Feb 2009 11:13:03 -0600, Walt Farrell wrote: >... >Assuming you have an application that is using the System SSL function of >z/OS (or the Application Transparent TLS function of z/OS Communications >Server, which uses System SSL): > >(a) z/OS R7: >http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-

Re: Z11 - Water cooling?

2009-02-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 15:31:05 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: >... >> However it's likely to be liquid gas, rather than water. > >Hmmm... probably dihydrogen monoxide. That, or the equally >dangerous hydric acid. >... Or the equally caustic hydrogen hydroxide. Each of them a liquid gas (when not a ga

Re: SNA Formats manual?

2009-01-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:46:15 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: >... >To which "product doc" package would you be referring? >... Chris, I'm having a bit of a senior moment here, but there was something that could easily be called a "product documentation package" that used to be orderable with VTAM

Re: SNA Formats manual?

2009-01-29 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:55:57 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: >... >A good way to locate the most recent SNA architecture manuals, >including the SNA Formats manual, is to go to the web page of >the APPN Implementers Workshop > http://www.networking.ibm.com/app/aiwhome.htm >and select the "Documents

Re: TMON replacement

2009-01-28 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 12:26:59 -0600, gsg wrote: >We are using TMON, but we're looking to replace it. We may go >back to Omegamon, but I want to see what other products are >available. I don't have a suggestion (and by corporate rules, would not be allowed to make one even if I had one), but I

Re: does anybody know a basic type of "VTAM LU telnet" tool

2009-01-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:32:35 +0100, Dr. Stephen Fedtke wrote: >... >does anybody know/have a simple tool, any freeware or sample >code, to establish an APPC LU connection in order to perform a >basic communication test. just to test the principal establishment >of a connection - like using te

Re: *$HASP9211 JES2 MAIN TASK NOT RUNNING

2009-01-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 12:39:00 -0600, George Mitjans wrote: >... >19:06:50.63 0090 *$HASP9211 JES2 MAIN TASK NOT RUNNING 916 > 916 0090 DURATION-000:00:21.02 >19:07:10.69 0090 *$HASP9207 JES2 CHECKPOINT LOCK HELD 917 > 917 0090

Re: MODIFY VTAMOPTS,TCPNAME=

2009-01-20 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:55:37 -0600, Rabbe, Luke wrote: >... >I modified VTAMOPTS to give TCPNAME a value. >... >Now I want to change it back to the initial value of *BLANKS*, but VTAM >won't let me enter a blank or the value *BLANKS* in the modify command. >Has anyone ever done this or have

Re: 3278 device <> Hardware support

2009-01-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:47:26 -0600, Lieven Borgs wrote: >... >Does Z/OS 1.8 and above still support the 3278 device type and is only the >hardware support for the real physical 3278's dropped? >... Others have answered "yes"for what you are probably asking. z/OS still apparently supports the d

Re: How to interrupt an LPAR ?

2009-01-11 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 12:35:35 -0600, Chris Mason wrote: >... >In the days when I played with real stand-alone machines, typically the >old '360s, I seem to remember the "external interrupt" was a plastic >rectangular button on the face of the machine - probably I have a Model >30 in mind. ... I c

Re: Auditors (was: Survey says...)

2009-01-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 21:06:01 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>I guess our mangement forgot to read the definitions. And come to think of it, that has been true in every shop I've seen. > >Yes. But, who carries the hammer? The management that called for the audits in the first place. They have no way

Re: Survey says...

2009-01-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:43:51 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >... >Also, must everybody reply to the list for surveys? >... I believe Darren's rules forbade us from resonding on-list to surveys, but I think this is one survey that is worth having public responses. I expected the majority of respo

Auditors (was: Survey says...)

2009-01-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:37:06 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >... >>> 2. Auditors don't approve; they report on compliance. > >>Maybe that's how it works where you live. It is different elsewhere. > >True auditors just report on compliance. >SME's define. >Compliance officers enforce. > >Anything else

Re: Display MAXTHREADS for an address space

2009-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 2 Jan 2009 10:43:19 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: >...MAXTHREADS ... >How do we tell if the value is really being overridden? A > D OMVS,O,A= >gives no indication that it is showing the address space's parm >... Someone here found the answer: D O

Display MAXTHREADS for an address space

2009-01-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
We have supposedly told out SAF product - ACF2 to override the MAXTHREADS parm for a specific address space. After looking at a dump IBM (Tivoli Storage Manager lvl 2) says we are still using our BPXPRM value. How do we tell if the value is really being overridden? A D OMVS,O,A= gives n

REXX STORAGE (was: Why would I use System REXX as shown in the sample? (was: RO command query))

2008-12-31 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:42:26 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: >... >Personally, until there is a supported / alternate "STORAGE" function >that I can use, I probably won't be doing much with it.Console >automation packages can be used instead. >... I know this is the wrong forum to discuss this,

Re: OCO, documentation, support from IBM-Main, etc. (was Re: Health Checker questions)

2008-12-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:04:13 -0500, Jim Mulder wrote: >> PLMs. >> >> IBM's promise to improve the doc included getting rid of PLMs. That >> way there wasn't as much information to go obsolete. ... > > That's not exactly how things happened. I assume nobody will be surprised to hear I did

Re: OCO, documentation, support from IBM-Main, etc. (was Re: Health Checker questions)

2008-12-16 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:47:29 -0800, Scott Ford wrote: >... source code and PLMs to understand the workings of a lot of >the VM and MVS components. >... PLMs. IBM's promise to improve the doc included getting rid of PLMs. That way there wasn't as much information to go obsolete. We are so

Re: XMITIP commercial support ?

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:10:39 +0100, CAPRON Romain wrote: >... >We're currently using the XMITIP freeware. >Is there any product with a "real" technical support ? >... I don't have an answer in any case, but the answer probably depends on which features of XMITIP are important to you. Which fe

Re: A Techie Goes to SHARE

2008-12-15 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 12:12:25 -0500, Warner Mach wrote: >... presentations at SHARE, including "SOA" and >how to virtualize everything; ... > >Over the years IBM puts forth various conceptual "themes" >that they think are important trends and which, coincidentally, >involve the purchase of addi

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