Re: 123 extents and VTOC fmt 3

2010-09-02 Thread Ron Hawkins
Been there done that. Replaced some heavily updated PDS with PDS-E and no more problem as a PDS-E counts as one extent no matter how many extents it actually uses. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of > Peter Nuttall > Sent:

Re: SMF data for FTP

2010-09-02 Thread Cobe Xu
DAF mentioned above is good enough More importantno $$$ On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Knutson, Sam wrote: > Take a look at DAF Data Set Audit Facility 1.49 here > http://sites.google.com/site/michaeljosephcleary/home/freeware > > This is an excellent free tool from Mike Cleary which repor

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 07:23 -0500 on 09/02/2010, Mike Schwab wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: SPELLING-CHECKER POEM http://www.bios.niu.edu/zar/poem.html There is also Science Fiction Author Piers Anthony who in one of the first books in his Xanth Series had a character write an essay which was then spell

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 12:16 -0700 on 09/02/2010, Gerhard Adam wrote about Re: Virginia DOT outage: >Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week. How do major files get fouled up with adequate backups? Or audit files. I

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Gabe Goldberg
The problem wasn't checking license validity, it was renewing licenses. They've extended by 20 days validity of licenses which expired Aug 25-Sept 2 or so, are keeping DMV offices open extra hours and days, and have notified police regarding the extension. And some measure I didn't quite catch

Re: Another zFS conversion question

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Wood
I never catalog zfs data sets in the master catalog. They can be cataloged in a user catalog, then both the old and new master catalog can have an alias entry pointing to the user catalog. It makes maintaining the new zfs data sets from the old system much easier. ---

Re: SMF data for FTP

2010-09-02 Thread Knutson, Sam
Take a look at DAF Data Set Audit Facility 1.49 here http://sites.google.com/site/michaeljosephcleary/home/freeware This is an excellent free tool from Mike Cleary which reports on many types of SMF records including FTP 118/119. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 23:34:43 -0400, Don Poitras wrote: > >They weren't injured, but you have to believe they were pretty scared >when the plane they were flying last Saturday was met by armed men >screaming at them. The 'criminals'? John and Martha King. Known throughout >the US for their many pilot

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Mike Schwab
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Don Poitras wrote: > They weren't injured, but you have to believe they were pretty scared > when the plane they were flying last Saturday was met by armed men > screaming at them. The 'criminals'? John and Martha King. Known throughout > the US for their many pil

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Don Poitras
In article <4c80381e.6050...@ync.net> you wrote: > If the process seems to be working smoothly, who checks results? And how? > We had an incident in Illinois where a license plate number was > re-assigned but the database wasn't updated because the plate already > appeared in the database. An in

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40 (Resoloved)

2010-09-02 Thread Joel C. Ewing
On 09/02/2010 06:24 PM, Rick Fochtman wrote: > ---: > >>> One of my coworkers ran a compress against a production file during >>> prime >> time >> >> I've always found it curious that so many times compress is done >> without using

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Gerhard Adam
That was bad programming practice even then. Especially in that timeframe when there's no question that the access method would've kicked back an error condition for attempting to replace a duplicate record. My point here, is that this is not a technology issue, but a "people not doing their job"

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 2 Sep 2010 16:16:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >>It turned out our contract with our service provider did not allow for the >testing back-ups. > >>And, even though it's a best practice, if you don't pay for it, you don't >get it. > >>An application problem, followed by a procedu

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
It happened in the late 1970's. Rick - Gerhard Adam wrote: If the process seems to be working smoothly, who checks results? And how? We had an incident in Illinois where a license plate number was re-assigned but the

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I disagree, John. Spelling is VERY important in preserving the meaning of >written communications. I agree 100%! When I was an elementary school student, in the 1960's, and I did a science project, if I made a spelling, or grammatical, error, my science teacher would take up to 5% off of the p

Re: Another zFS conversion question

2010-09-02 Thread John McKown
What is the DSN? If it starts with SYS1, then do a simple DEFINE CLUSTER( - NAME(SYS1.rest.of.the.dsn) - VOL(volser) LINEAR RECATALOG) VSAM datasets which start with SYS1 __can__ be catalogued in multiple catalogs! BTW - so can any PAGESPACE dataset, regardless of DSN high level. If the DSN

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Gerhard Adam
>If the process seems to be working smoothly, who checks results? And how? >We had an incident in Illinois where a license plate number was >re-assigned but the database wasn't updated because the plate already >appeared in the database. An innocent man was killed by State Police >because the p

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- If something starts going wrong and doesn't get detected for a period of time, the backups will be contaminated from time of first failure. Getting things straightened out can be interesting. What can start going wro

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- --- On Sun, 8/29/10, Rick Fochtman wrote: From: Rick Fochtman Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 4:23 PM Ron, I understand your viewpoint, but it's hard for a custome

Re: SMF data for FTP

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Is there a way to pull 119 records and get more detailed information on specific users that are using FTP and what jobs they are executing? I did the standard SMF Dump and that shows records were pulled but does not give detail

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of J R ... police are not sighting people who are stopped and found to have recently expired licenses. If the police are not sighting

Another zFS conversion question

2010-09-02 Thread Schwartz, Alan
I'm currently running z/OS 1.9 with all HFS files. Our corporate center delivered my z/OS 1.11 system with all zFS format. Fine. We can address staying zFS with the upgrade I was applying an SMP usermod that copies IMS program DFAFMD0 from the RESLIB to one of our lpa libraries. The apply failed

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40 (Resoloved)

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
---: One of my coworkers ran a compress against a production file during prime time I've always found it curious that so many times compress is done without using DISP=OLD. That seems "nasty" to me (at least if you like yo

Re: how can I delete a user catalog wich the volume does't exist?

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
: Dear all If a user catalog's volume does't exist.Can I delete this user catalog entry? I already try idcams DELETE NSCR,but failed. How can I delete this user catalog entry without any tools? Best Regard wayneluo 9/2/2010

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40 (Resoloved!)

2010-09-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Lizette Koehler wrote: It took awhile but we found the culprit. One of my coworkers ran a compress against a production file during prime time. John Eels got it right as usual with this: 'Also, note that other addres

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Gerhard Adam
>It turned out our contract with our service provider did not allow for the testing back-ups. >And, even though it's a best practice, if you don't pay for it, you don't get it. >An application problem, followed by a procedural problem still happens. I completely understand, but those aren't prob

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/2/2010 5:54:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time, eamacn...@yahoo.ca writes: And, even though it's a best practice, if you don't pay for it, you don't get it. An application problem, followed by a procedural problem still happens. >> My favorite was the hot-shot DBA that d

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>These issues have been around for well over 40 years, and if they haven't been >addressed then shame on whoever's responsible. >It simply isn't acceptable to say that "something got messed up". >This isn't 1975. Unfortunately, everything old is new again. People who don't learn from history ...

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>You are confusing "subsystem" and "address space type". Under normal >circumstances, TSUs also run under JES2 or JES3. Yes, of course. But, there is a definite sub-system called TSO, just as there is one called STC (Started Task Control). They all require JES, but they are separate sub-syst

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-09-02 Thread Bill Fairchild
I agree with William Blair in that many things we masses are sold and forced to use seem never to have been given the benefit of a stress test, a focus group, or the "pick an average man on the street and see if he can use it" reality check. But I can also see how a high-level executive would e

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Gerhard Adam
>If something starts going wrong and doesn't get detected for a period >of time, the backups will be contaminated from time of first failure. >Getting things straightened out can be interesting. What can start going wrong that doesn't get detected? Someone's not paying attention. These issues

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread J R
Within a time sharing address space, in essence, TPUTs are solicited by TGETs. That's what makes it interactive -- the synchronicity. Messages from a submitted job back to its submittor are asynchronous, with '***' alerts that require a change from fullscreen mode to line mode, and back.

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-09-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Very interesting. I started around 1979 with SPF. I remember having a hard time getting it to work right, mostly because my 3277 terminal had only 5 PFKeys. When I figured out that I should set PF4 & PF5 to scroll down and up, it got a lot easier. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread J R
> While you can run the TMP in the background, by definition, batch is > non-interactive, and runs under the JES (2 or 3) sub-system. > > TERM=TS is for interactive work, under the TSO sub-system. You are confusing "subsystem" and "address space type". Under normal circumstances, TSUs also run

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> A dunsel is still a dunsel. >Thank you for expressing your minds using words out of dictionary I'm allowed to use words that are common usage in my native tongue, aren't I? Of course, only Star Trek fans would get the reference. >There would be many applications for such feature. >Some batch

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 2 Sep 2010 12:17:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >>Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files >>getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week. > >How do major files get fouled up with adequate backups? > > >>There also are some fiascos

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Tim Brown
Paul Thanks Got it that way. Tim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 4:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset On Thu, 2 Se

Re: z196 on Fox News web site

2010-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 09/01/2010 at 10:02 AM, "McKown, John" said: >It's even accurate, Read it again, then calculate 4*96. Also, it's not being marketed as a workstation. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't c

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40

2010-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1283360709.27705.32.ca...@chuck.duda.com>, on 09/01/2010 at 01:05 PM, David Andrews said: >Just a SWAG, but when does STEPLIB get opened? Once by the >initiator, or at every LOAD? Once per step, by the Initiator. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; s

Re: Index of IBM announcement letters?

2010-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <050601cb49db$26236370$726a2a...@org>, on 09/01/2010 at 06:39 AM, Charles Mills said: >Assume you've asked the Google and all that? Google found some odds and ands on bitsavers and IBM, mostly things I already had. But the site you gave me did get me one DF/DS announcement and several MVS.

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40

2010-09-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <683141.1283359679490.javamail.r...@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>, on 09/01/2010 at 12:47 PM, Lizette Koehler said: >IEW4009I FETCH FAILED FOR MODULE MYLOAD01 FROM DDNAME STEPLIB >BECAUSE OF AN I/O ERROR. Did someone compress it or add an extent while you were running? --

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-09-02 22:01, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Isn't it obvious? If it were obvious, would I ask why? Unfortunately yes. My opinion on that: You ask me, I answer. More functionality is usually better. A dunsel is still a dunsel. Thank you for expressing your minds using words out of dict

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 21:48:06 +0200, R.S. wrote: >W dniu 2010-09-02 19:54, Ted MacNEIL pisze: >>> Would be nice to have(i.e TERM=TS from a batch job) >> >> >> Why? >Isn't it obvious? >More functionality is usually better. If you don't like it, then just >don't use it. > Isn't each of us uncomf

Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 14:40:06 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: >We are working on some support in our Co:Z Toolkit that allows users to >submit and manage jobs, and I was wondering how often (at all) anyone really >needs to submit jobs with records that are not fixed length, LRECL=80? > The only thing that I

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Why don't you call it an exercise instead of a test, then you can always say >that in an exercise you would expect something to fail and that's the reason for the exercise. If I were the keeper of the corporate buzzwords, I would. I tried that route, at a major Canadian bank, and they told me i

Re: Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-02 Thread Starr, Alan
Kirk, I occasionally use in-stream data records greater than 80 bytes (RECFM=F). Examples: > STDENV to BPXBATCH > SYSIN to IDCAMS (i.e. combined with MARGINS option) I don't believe that I have ever needed to SUBmit anything other than RECFM=F Cheers, Alan -Original Message- From:

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:38:22 -0400, Tim Brown wrote: >Have unix file that I can browse, get error when editing "Record too large" If >I browse the file I can >access it and it formats ok > OK. This worked for me. I can Browse it; I can Edit it: u...@mvs:129$ ftp "service.boulder.ibm.com" 220- 2

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Isn't it obvious? If it were obvious, would I ask why? >More functionality is usually better. A dunsel is still a dunsel. >If you don't like it, then just don't use it. I never said I didn't like it! I simply asked why. I can see no use for the function, at the moment. I wouldn't mind knowi

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Ward, Mike S
Why don't you call it an exercise instead of a test, then you can always say that in an exercise you would expect something to fail and that's the reason for the exercise. To me a DR test implies that you are testing your DR and it better not fail, while with the exercise you might expect something

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-09-02 19:54, Ted MacNEIL pisze: Would be nice to have(i.e TERM=TS from a batch job) Why? Isn't it obvious? More functionality is usually better. If you don't like it, then just don't use it. Wouldn't that violate so many integrity rules? Well, it is non-existent feature,

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Especially when every company that does DR testing always come back >proclaiming how successful the test was. Tell me about it! I was involved, as a customer, when our service provider declared a test a success when it didn't even meet more than 5 (out of almost 100) success criteria. Some app

Practical uses for submitting JCL with other than RECFM=F(B),LRECL=80

2010-09-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
We are working on some support in our Co:Z Toolkit that allows users to submit and manage jobs, and I was wondering how often (at all) anyone really needs to submit jobs with records that are not fixed length, LRECL=80? The only thing that I could think of was some sort of NJE transfer of data (wi

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Mike Schwab
What program created it on Unix? What were the New Line settings? IND$FILE should be able to translate and split the PC convention records with ASCII CRLF settings http://www.bluezonesoftware.com/help/v50/en/bz/DISPLAY/IND$FILE/IND$FILE_Technical_Reference.htm#tso_receive But it does require both

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Gerhard Adam
>Having been in on a couple of recovery actions due to major files >getting fouled up, I can believe that things could take up to a week. How do major files get fouled up with adequate backups? >There also are some fiascos that real-time >backup won't guard against. Not true. Especially when e

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Clark Morris
On 2 Sep 2010 05:29:45 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >That's my feeling also. In looking at the timeline on the Virginia >Government web site, it looks like it took about 24 hours to do the full >maintenance and repair of the EMC box. It was up by the morning of the >next day. Howe

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread John H Kington
Get to a cli and issue wc You should see three numbers displayed. The first would be the number of records, the second would be the number of "words" and the third would be the size of the file. wc is a unix command. >Where do I see the value for wc ? Tim What does wc show for the record c

Re: Enterprise Cobol

2010-09-02 Thread Schumacher, Otto
Thanks for the information. I just wanted to make sure we had the right level of maintenance on to avoid this problem. Regards Otto Schumacher   HP Enterprise Services Infrastructure Specialist Ahold Account CICS & Capacity Technical Support P.O. Box 6462 2000 Wade Hampton Blvd. LC1-302 Greenvil

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> Would be nice to have(i.e TERM=TS from a batch job) Why? Wouldn't that violate so many integrity rules? There is always the SEnd command. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN su

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread McKown, John
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Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. > Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 8:51 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=* > > Etienne Thijsse pisze: > > Thanks, John, > > > > Then I guess my JCL

Re: format of STCK instruction

2010-09-02 Thread Peter Relson
There were several appends related to the format of the ETOD. They all seem to have not known of the following: "TOD Programmable Register" note 14 on P4-42 in PoOp-07 is: At some time in the future, new models will use a carry from bit position 0 of the TOD clock to increment an additional eigh

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Staller, Allan
OGET? IND$FILE? Have unix file that I can browse, get error when editing "Record too large" If I browse the file I can access it and it formats ok -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email t

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Tim Brown
Where do I see the value for wc ? Tim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John H Kington Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset Tim What does wc

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
Look at the data in hex in ISPF browse what codes do you see for record separators? any? If not, are the records fixed length? Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Tim Brown wrote: > Where do I see the value for wc ? > > Tim > > -Origina

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Tim Brown
Tried with IND$FILE and OGET and also FTP All same results. 1 large record. Tim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Staller, Allan Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Need to get

Re: Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread John H Kington
Tim What does wc show for the record count? If it is 1, you will have to find a way to chunk up the file into something you can digest. Regards, John >Tried with IND$FILE and OGET and also FTP > >All same results. 1 large record. >>OGET? IND$FILE? >> >>Have unix file that I can browse, get

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>the way I read the statement from the JCL book, it says something totally different, and seemingly totally wrong... There's submitting and there's submitting. Submit a job to get it to execute under JES2/3. Submit text/commands, under TSO, and the output comes back to the terminal. TERM=TS o

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Maybe the key is that the background job must still run under TSO? Is that possible? While you can run the TMP in the background, by definition, batch is non-interactive, and runs under the JES (2 or 3) sub-system. TERM=TS is for interactive work, under the TSO sub-system. So, in short, it is

Need to get unix file to zos dataset

2010-09-02 Thread Tim Brown
Have unix file that I can browse, get error when editing "Record too large" If I browse the file I can access it and it formats ok BROWSE/ibmftp/U00907608/SMPHOLD/SMPHOLD Line Col 001 080 * Top of Data ** ++NUL

Re: Where doc for STORAGE LINKAGE=SYSTEM

2010-09-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 9/2/2010 5:11 AM, Peter Relson wrote: If you want an example of a really dumb default that we are powerless to change (without breaking the world), it is the default of STORAGE (with LINKAGE=SYSTEM) for a key-specifiable subpool defaulting to key 0 instead of caller's key. Way back when, the

Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-09-02 Thread Bill Godfrey
Your new attachment is just an ASCII-to-EBCDIC translation of the attachment from your earlier message. For example, the 3rd byte in the earlier attachment, hex 6d, ASCII "m", is translated to hex 94, EBCDIC "m" in your new attachment. The earlier attachment is not a hex dump of ASCII text to s

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Tom, The book is an old one, "System 390 JCL", 4th edition. The confusion arises because the TERM=TS section is in the "submitting jobs" paragraph of that book. And also because in some manuals there is talk of "TSO background" or "TSO batch" ; that seems to suggest that this is a different ty

Re: Test DASD performance tools

2010-09-02 Thread Ed Gould
--- On Sun, 8/29/10, Rick Fochtman wrote: From: Rick Fochtman Subject: Re: Test DASD performance tools To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 4:23 PM Ron, I understand your viewpoint, but it's hard for a customer shop to choose the RIGHT 24 hours to model. They can pick a "wor

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 08:28:30 -0500, Etienne Thijsse wrote: > >Then I guess my JCL book is wrong; it says "Coding TERM=TS on a //SYSOUT >DD statement sends the output data set back to the terminal if it was >submitted from a terminal." in the section about the SUBMIT TSO statement. What JCL book is

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Actually, upon carefully re-reading this, I now think it is saying what John said... no TERM=TS under batch... Thanks, Etienne On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:38:15 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Etienne Thijsse wrote: > >>Yes, I believe that John is right, as I said. Maybe some "word analyzing" >

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Elardus, That sounds suspiciously similar to the quoted text from the JCL book... Maybe the key is that the background job must still run under TSO? Is that possible? Thanks, Etienne On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:38:15 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >Etienne Thijsse wrote: > >>Yes, I believe tha

Re: Moving on (please don't panic)

2010-09-02 Thread Phil Smith III
Alan wrote: >Effective September 16th, after nearly 28 years in VM Development, I am >moving to a new role as a member of IBM Lab Services and Training. There >I will be part of the team that helps you, our clients, successfully bring >Linux to System z, both from a traditional consolidation pers

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Charles, This book is not an IBM manual, its an old book called "System 390 JCL" 4th edition from 1998. Thanks, Etienne >I am told that manual comments should go to mhvr...@us.ibm.com so that's >where I am forwarding this post. > >Charles >

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Miklos Szigetvari
Would be nice to have(i.e TERM=TS from a batch job) On 9/2/2010 4:40 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:51:03 +0200, R.S. wrote: Etienne Thijsse pisze: Thanks, John, Then I guess my JCL book is wrong; it says "Coding TERM=TS on a //SYSOUT DD statement sends the output data

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:51:03 +0200, R.S. wrote: >Etienne Thijsse pisze: >> Thanks, John, >> >> Then I guess my JCL book is wrong; it says "Coding TERM=TS on a //SYSOUT >> DD statement sends the output data set back to the terminal if it was >> submitted from a terminal." in the section about the SU

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Charles Mills
I am told that manual comments should go to mhvr...@us.ibm.com so that's where I am forwarding this post. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Etienne Thijsse Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 7:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Etienne Thijsse wrote: >Yes, I believe that John is right, as I said. Maybe some "word analyzing" would be in order, because the way I read the statement from the JCL book, it says something totally different, and seemingly totally wrong... Wait. From another book ('TSO/E Programming Services'

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-09-02 Thread William H. Blair
John Chase remembers: > ISTR that "PDF" (now ISPF option 2) was the full-screen editor; > an add-on to "SPF". The full-screen editor, formerly called SPF (the "Structured Programming Facility") was incorporated into ISPF (renamed by then, twice, to "Interactive System Productivity Facility") as

Re: 3270 Emulator Software

2010-09-02 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#80 3270 Emulator Software http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010m.html#83 3270 Emulator Software ... image of the 3270 logo screen at the offsite IMS location http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/vmhyper.jpg it is from 1980 35mm slide presentation on the effort ... ab

Storage not freed in IPCS dump

2010-09-02 Thread Micheal Butz
Hi I have a piece of stroage in a IPCS dump. If I use the where command from option 6 in IPCS and it returns info which subpool it's located does that mean it hasn't been freed Sent from my iPhone -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-09-02 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 08:00 -0400, Chase, John wrote: > ISTR that "PDF" (now ISPF option 2) was the full-screen editor; an > add-on to "SPF". The original "Structured Programming Facility" (which had nothing to do with structured programming, a buzzword of the day) became the "Interactive System P

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Yes, I believe that John is right, as I said. Maybe some "word analyzing" would be in order, because the way I read the statement from the JCL book, it says something totally different, and seemingly totally wrong... Thanks, Etienne On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 15:51:03 +0200, R.S. wrote: >Etienne Th

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-09-02 Thread David Andrews
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 07:05 -0400, William H. Blair wrote: > 1983. It also went OCO. That was particularly painful to us at > the time because we had made mods to SPF (source) that obviously > could not be carried forward. We had to drop them and completely > revise our source library management ap

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread R.S.
Etienne Thijsse pisze: Thanks, John, Then I guess my JCL book is wrong; it says "Coding TERM=TS on a //SYSOUT DD statement sends the output data set back to the terminal if it was submitted from a terminal." in the section about the SUBMIT TSO statement. I don't want to analyze the "wording"

Re: TRSMAIN RC=8

2010-09-02 Thread Francisco Hernandez
Hello, He continued to conduct more tests with the file that was apparently obtained TRSMAIN and sent to a Windows server via FTP. The file seems to be sending format "ascii" and not "binary" as I think. Deputy first 12 new "bytes" file made by IND $ FILE in "ascii". The problem is that the perso

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread Etienne Thijsse
Thanks, John, Then I guess my JCL book is wrong; it says "Coding TERM=TS on a //SYSOUT DD statement sends the output data set back to the terminal if it was submitted from a terminal." in the section about the SUBMIT TSO statement. Thanks, Etienne On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 08:00:51 -0500, John McKow

Re: mainframe batch consumer of web service

2010-09-02 Thread Scott Barry
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 09:12:41 -0600, Frank Swarbrick wrote: >Anyone out there have mainframe batch programs that consume distributed web services? What are you using? Java? EXCI and CICS web service client? Vendor product? Something else? > >Thanks, >Frank > >-- > >Frank Swarbrick >Application

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread zMan
>From another list: http://spectrum.ieee.org/riskfactor/computing/it/virginia-information-technologies-agency-believes-in-the-perfect-network-fairy -- zMan -- "I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it" -- For IBM-MAIN su

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40 (Resoloved)

2010-09-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 22:27:10 +1000, Shane wrote: >If ENQ worked sensibly with indirectly catalogued datasets life would be >a *LOT* easier for quite a few in this world I dare to posit. > >'nuff said. > Would this be related to having ENQ work "sensibly" with alias data set names? And in turn rela

Re: DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=*

2010-09-02 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 04:01 -0500, Etienne Thijsse wrote: > Hi, > > I have read that I can have a batch job write to the screen by coding > TERM=TS on the DD statement, like this: > > //TERM DD TERM=TS,SYSOUT=* > > But I am not seeing anything being written on the screen; the output stil

Re: Virginia DOT outage

2010-09-02 Thread Kelman, Tom
That's my feeling also. In looking at the timeline on the Virginia Government web site, it looks like it took about 24 hours to do the full maintenance and repair of the EMC box. It was up by the morning of the next day. However, it took a week to get the data completely recovered. What took so

SMF data for FTP

2010-09-02 Thread Cynthia Davis
Is there a way to pull 119 records and get more detailed information on specific users that are using FTP and what jobs they are executing? I did the standard SMF Dump and that shows records were pulled but does not give details. ---

Re: Help with IEWFETCH Error RC0F Reason 40 (Resoloved)

2010-09-02 Thread Shane
If ENQ worked sensibly with indirectly catalogued datasets life would be a *LOT* easier for quite a few in this world I dare to posit. 'nuff said. Shane ... On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 07:45 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > I've always found it curious that so many times compress is done without > using

Re: Set numbers off permanently.

2010-09-02 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
bi...@mainstar.com (Bill Fairchild) writes: > I was writing about the prevalence of TSO and ISPF, not their exact > birthdates. I should have made that clearer in my previous post. old references to why VM370 performance products and ISPF development were merged into the same group (also referenc

Re: how can I delete a user catalog wich the volume does't exist?

2010-09-02 Thread Myers, Edouard (OCTO)
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