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On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 05:11:56 -0500, Shane Ginnane wrote:

So 
IBM obviously couldn't use the z11 name and so the marketing intelligentsia 
came up with that marvellous ploy to fill the gap.

Let's hope they have dibs on the next few iterations of znumber, so we can 
avoid this farce again in future.
 
Who cares!?

What's in a name?  ...  -- WS

Actually, some things.  IBM didn't understand that the output of
uname -s is customarily used as an API by UNIX scripts when
they changed it from OS/390 to z/OS.  But IBM relented, and
uname now says we're at OS/390 1.23.  And even OS/390
has problems; the solidus breaks GNU autoconfigure.  IBM does
not much care to play well with others.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread McKown, John

Really? It would be impressive, but I'll be that name is copyrighted by the 
group. Of course there is always used by permission.

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 Why not ZZtop?
 
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 On 8/28/2012 4:11 AM, Shane Ginnane wrote:
  So 
  IBM obviously couldn't use the z11 name and so the marketing
 intelligentsia came up with that marvellous ploy to fill the gap.
 
  Let's hope they have dibs on the next few iterations of znumber, so
 we can avoid this farce again in future.
 
 I dunno: z13 might be considered unlucky. Of course, so would EC13.  :-
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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4)

Why not ZZtop?

Copyright violation?

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Richard Pinion

let's try ZZt0p

Richard and Vickie Pinion

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Why not ZZtop?

Copyright violation?

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Re: ZFS ROOT SYSPLEX SHARING

2012-08-28 Thread Staller, Allan

snip
There seem to be 2 choices
1) set IOEFSPRM SYSPLEX=ON
2) set IOEFSPRM SYSPLEX=filesys and SYSPLEX(YES) on ZFS FILESTYPE
...snippage
Is there anything else I need to do or think about?
/snip

With either of the 2 options above, you will need to define primary/alternate 
OMVS couple data sets.
Also you will need to allocate a sysplex root file system.

This is all discussed in the FM's. Setting up a SYSPLEX and Unix System 
Services Planning.

HTH and good luck!

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM

Hunkeler Peter  , KIUP 4 peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote in
message
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 Why not ZZtop?
 
 Copyright violation?
 
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And you cannot top *the* top, even not with 3 z's.
I ain't asking for much, IBM take me downtown, ... no that will never
turn into something good.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji)

 With the new machine,it seems like there is  A LOT  to read which is greate! 
.. You may find it usefull to check  this part of Draft EC12 tech guide 
redbook.I  think it is nice,because it summaries performance items well 

 Regards
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1.9.7 Main performance improvement drivers with zEC12

The zEC12 is designed to deliver new levels of performance and capacity for 
large scale
consolidation and growth. The following attributes and design points of the 
zEC12 contribute
to overall performance and throughput improvements as compared to the z196.
/Architecture implementation enhancements:
 Transactional Execution (TX) designed for z/OS, Java, DB2 and other exploiters
 Runtime Instrumentation (RI) provides dynamic and self-tuning online 
re-compilation
capability for Java workloads
 Enhanced DAT-2 for supporting 2 GB large pages for DB2 buffer pools, Java 
heap size and
other large structures
 Software directives implementation to improve hardware performance
 Decimal format conversions for COBOL programs.
zEC12 microprocessor design enhancements:
 Six processor cores per chip
 Enhanced Out Of Order (OOO) execution design
 Improved pipeline balance
 Enhanced branch prediction latency and instruction fetch throughput
 Improvements on execution bandwidth and throughput
 New design for Level 2 private cache with separation of cache structures for 
instructions
and L2 operands
 Reduced access latency for most of Level 1 cache misses
 Bigger Level 2 cache with shorter latency
 Third level on-chip shared cache is doubled
 Fourth level book-shared cache is doubled
 Hardware and software prefetcher handling improvements
 Increased execution/completion throughput
 Improve fetch and store conflict scheme
 Enhance branch prediction structure and sequential instruction fetching
 Millicode performance improvements
 Optimized floating-point performance
 Faster engine for fixed-point division
 New second level branch prediction array
 One cryptographic/compression co-processor per core
 Cryptography support of UTF8UTF16 conversions
 Higher clock frequency at 5.5 GHz
 IBM CMOS 13S 32nm SOI technology with IBM eDRAM technology.
zEC12 design enhancements:
 Increased total number of PUs available on the system, from 96 to 120, and 
number of
characterizable cores, from 80 to 101
 Hardware System Area increased from 16 GB to 32 GB
 Increased default number of SAP processors per book
 New CFCC code available for improved performance
– Elapsed time improvements when dynamically altering the size of a cache 
structure
– DB2 conditional write to a group buffer pool (GBP)
– Performance improvements for coupling facility cache structures to avoid 
flooding the
coupling facility cache with changed data and avoid excessive delays and 
backlogs for
cast-out processing
– Performance throughput enhancements for parallel cache castout processing by
extending the number of RCC cursors beyond 512
– CF Storage class and castout class contention avoidance by breaking up 
individual
storage class and castout class queues to reduce storage class and castout 
class latch
contention.
New features available on the zEC12:
 Crypto Express4S performance enhancements
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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

In 503bf5eb.5010...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 08/28/2012
   at 12:34 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:

Valid, but illogical. Data set with zero size is illogical.

No.

That's exploitation of side effect. Stilla valid (it works, so 
it is valid), but it's still illogical.

It's perfectly logical, as are /dev/null and DUMMY.

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

In 2147353307588112.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/27/2012
   at 06:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

But its length attribute is nonzero.  In fact, IIRC, HLASM will 
never create a symbol with length attribute of zero;

Don't confuse symbol with SET symbol.

   The assembler assigns the character string value represented in
   the operand field to the SETC symbol in the name field. The
   string length must be in the range 0 (null character string)
   through 1024 characters.

I believe (without trying it again) that
ANSWER   EQU   42,0
results in an assembler error.

Yes, but that's not

ANSWER  SETC  ''

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 00:45:25 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote:

Peter,
I works fine if working in ISPF.  But when the question of line command is 
requested, I am thinking along the lines of a simple interface that could be 
used batch or foreground.
 
Thanks for your understanding.  Simply, there are too many disjoint
ways of retrieving not enough information about a data set.  These
include HLIST, LISTDS, LISTCAT, BPXWDYN(INFO), Rexx LISTDSI,
ISPF DSLIST, ISPF DDLIST, ... probably many others.  There should
be a single simple interface to retrieve any of the information
supplied by any of the above.

It should be accessible with:

o JCL EXEC PGM=

o TSO CALL

o Assembler CALL

o Rexx  address LINKMVS

(the above interfaces are all very similar.)

o Other Rexx interfaces.

It should be able to direct its output to:

o TSO terminal.

o DDNAME if OUTDD() specified

o Rexx compound variable if STEM() specified.

o Reply buffer supplied by assembler CALL or Rexx LINKMVS.

It should accept as argument:

o Catalogued data set name
  - even with the extended syntax allowed by DISABLE(DSNCHECK)

o Uncatalogued data set name if UNIT and VOL are specified
  - again even with nonstandard name syntax

o DDNAME, which may refer to:
  - catalogued data set
  - uncatalogued data set
  - temporary DSN
  - VIO data set
  - UNIT and VOL with no DSN coded
  - UNIX path

(have I missed any?)  With DDNAME specified it should (be able to)
return attributes which will be used in the DCB merge at OPEN, not
necessarily those in the DSCB.

DDNAME should be allowed to be any 8-character string that could
have been allocated by SVC 99; not restricted to JCL syntax (the
latter could be retrieved if desired by issuing a second call with DSN,
UNIT, and VOL supplied by a previous call).

The values returned should be sufficient to allow reallocation of the
same entity to a different DDNAME with TSO ALLOCATE or BPXWDYN.

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

In 2627995591725082.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on
08/27/2012
   at 07:09 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said:

... so SPACE=(0,1) does allocate space.

What's in your ACS?

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Re: No Data returned in PPLANS area

In 056a01cd84f3$853f7420$8fbe5c60$@mindspring.com, on 08/28/2012
   at 01:02 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com said:

I would like to understand better what you are trying to do.

IKJPARS is a TSO service routine for parsing a command; the caller
passes a Parse Parameter List (PPL) that, among other things, points
to a Parse Contol List (PCL) describing the syntax and default values.
6.0  Chapter 6.  Verifying command and subcommand operands with
parse in z/OS TSO/E Programming Services, SA22-7789-0 describes it in
detail.

What is PPLANS?

The fifth word of the PPL. It points to a word that PARSE will set
either to FF00 or to the address of a parameter descriptor list
(PDL).

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Re: No Data returned in PPLANS area

2012-08-28 Thread Wayne Driscoll

What is the RC from IKJPARS?  is the parmlist being built properly? 
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Subject:[IBM-MAIN] No Data returned in PPLANS area
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Hi,

 

I am issuing the following TSO command

 

TSO CMD JOBNAME(JOBNAME) ASID(X'0037') DUMP(YES)

 

 

The following is the layout of the  IKJ macros I am using to parse this
statement

 

CANCEL   IKJPARM DSECT=PARSEAT 

JOBNAME  IKJKEYWD 

 IKJNAME  'JOBNAME',SUBFLD=JOB 

ASID IKJKEYWD 

 IKJNAME  'ASID',SUBFLD=ASIDX 

DUMP IKJKEYWD 

 IKJNAME  'DUMP',SUBFLD=DUMPX 

* 

*   SUBFIELDS 

* 

JOB  IKJSUBF 

JOBX IKJIDENT 'JOBNAME',FIRST=ALPHANUM,MAXLNTH=8,PROMPT='JOBNAME

ASIDXIKJSUBF 

ASIDFIKJIDENT 'ASID',FIRST=ALPHANUM,OTHER=ALPHANUM,PROMPT='ASID'

DUMPXIKJSUBF 

DUMPFIKJIDENT 'DUMP',FIRST=ALPHA,MAXLNTH=2 

 IKJENDP 

 

 

   When I retrieve the address returned in PPLANS 

 

This is what it looks like nothing is returned

 

00064F00.  FF00 01000100    **

     **

00064F20.       **

 00D0    **

00064F40.       **

     **

00064F60.       **

     **

00064F80.       **

     **

00064FA0.       **

     **

00064FC0.       **

     **

00064FE0.       **

   00*... *

 

 

No data has been parsed


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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Knutson, Sam

These were the most interesting links I found so far and sent to my team in 
addition to the announce itself 

Announce 

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=877letternum=ENUSZG12-0262
 

Draft - IBM zEnterprise EC12 Technical Introduction

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks.nsf/RedpieceAbstracts/sg248050.html?Open 

Draft  - IBM zEnterprise EC12 Technical Guide

http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/redpieces/abstracts/sg248049.html?Open 

Non-IBM blog Mainframe Watch Belgium

http://mainframe-watch-belgium.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-new-ibm-zenterprise-ec12-technical.html
 

YouTube Video - IBM zEnterprise EC12 Walkthrough Video Featuring Nick Sardino

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N3QWegGFYYfeature=em-subs_digest 


The biggest surprise for me was zAware the new monitoring appliance running in 
an LPAR.  This appears to be chargeable and currently just monitoring messages 
but moving infrastructure overhead and function out of the z/OS space into an 
LPAR is the MIPS Vacuum for this type of workload I have hoped to see for a 
while now.

There is a heavily promoted webcast starting in less than an hour that should 
cover all this. 

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji)
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

 With the new machine,it seems like there is  A LOT  to read which is greate! 
.. You may find it usefull to check  this part of Draft EC12 tech guide 
redbook.I  think it is nice,because it summaries performance items well 

 Regards
 Meral

1.9.7 Main performance improvement drivers with zEC12

The zEC12 is designed to deliver new levels of performance and capacity for 
large scale consolidation and growth. The following attributes and design 
points of the zEC12 contribute to overall performance and throughput 
improvements as compared to the z196.
/Architecture implementation enhancements:
 Transactional Execution (TX) designed for z/OS, Java, DB2 and other 
exploiters  Runtime Instrumentation (RI) provides dynamic and self-tuning 
online re-compilation capability for Java workloads  Enhanced DAT-2 for 
supporting 2 GB large pages for DB2 buffer pools, Java heap size and other 
large structures  Software directives implementation to improve hardware 
performance  Decimal format conversions for COBOL programs.
zEC12 microprocessor design enhancements:
 Six processor cores per chip
 Enhanced Out Of Order (OOO) execution design  Improved pipeline balance  
Enhanced branch prediction latency and instruction fetch throughput  
Improvements on execution bandwidth and throughput  New design for Level 2 
private cache with separation of cache structures for instructions and L2 
operands  Reduced access latency for most of Level 1 cache misses  Bigger 
Level 2 cache with shorter latency  Third level on-chip shared cache is 
doubled  Fourth level book-shared cache is doubled  Hardware and software 
prefetcher handling improvements  Increased execution/completion throughput  
Improve fetch and store conflict scheme  Enhance branch prediction structure 
and sequential instruction fetching  Millicode performance improvements  
Optimized floating-point performance  Faster engine for fixed-point division  
New second level branch prediction array  One cryptographic/compression 
co-processor per core  Cryptography support of UTF8UTF16 conversions  
Higher clock frequency at 5.5 GHz  IBM CMOS 13S 32nm SOI technology with IBM 
eDRAM technology.
zEC12 design enhancements:
 Increased total number of PUs available on the system, from 96 to 120, and 
number of characterizable cores, from 80 to 101  Hardware System Area 
increased from 16 GB to 32 GB  Increased default number of SAP processors per 
book  New CFCC code available for improved performance – Elapsed time 
improvements when dynamically altering the size of a cache structure – DB2 
conditional write to a group buffer pool (GBP) – Performance improvements for 
coupling facility cache structures to avoid flooding the coupling facility 
cache with changed data and avoid excessive delays and backlogs for cast-out 
processing – Performance throughput enhancements for parallel cache castout 
processing by extending the number of RCC cursors beyond 512 – CF Storage class 
and castout class contention avoidance by breaking up individual storage class 
and castout class queues to reduce storage class and castout class latch 
contention.
New features available on the zEC12:
 Crypto Express4S performance enhancements

Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:55:43 +, Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji) wrote:

 One cryptographic/compression co-processor per core

Presumably optionally disabled to comply with export restrictions?
I'm told we have the cryptographic PRNG disabled on most of our
processors because it's separately priced.  Is that true?  Will it
ever change?

 Cryptography support of UTF8UTF16 conversions
 
Shouldn't that be UTF-8?  I had never heard of UTF-16, but apparently
Microsoft uses it, so it must be OK.

Is UTF8UTF16 properly deemed cryptography?  What about ROT-13?

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Tony Harminc

On 28 August 2012 10:29, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:

  One cryptographic/compression co-processor per core

 Presumably optionally disabled to comply with export restrictions?

Is there really anywhere these days you can send a mainframe to that
you can't send a crypto processor to? Surely no one in Cuba or Iran
can order up a zEC12 in any case, even if a handful of cheap GPUs have
more computing power.

Tony H.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:49:21 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:

 Presumably optionally disabled to comply with export restrictions?

Is there really anywhere these days you can send a mainframe to that
you can't send a crypto processor to? Surely no one in Cuba or Iran
can order up a zEC12 in any case, even if a handful of cheap GPUs have
more computing power.
 
I had thought restrictions applied anywhere outside the U.S. and Canada.
But I may be operating on outdated misinformation.

You forgot North Korea.

-- gil

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread burgess, christopher

It may be that is a generation 12 CMOS CPU.

 Thanks,
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:55:43 +, Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji) wrote:

 One cryptographic/compression co-processor per core

Presumably optionally disabled to comply with export restrictions?
I'm told we have the cryptographic PRNG disabled on most of our processors 
because it's separately priced.  Is that true?  Will it ever change?

 Cryptography support of UTF8UTF16 conversions 
Shouldn't that be UTF-8?  I had never heard of UTF-16, but apparently 
Microsoft uses it, so it must be OK.

Is UTF8UTF16 properly deemed cryptography?  What about ROT-13?

-- gil

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-28 Thread retired mainframer

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:: LiZette:
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:: I think you can get a freeware product called IEHLIST w/cc
::LISTVTOC vol=3380=volser,format (or dump)

IBM does make some freeware available on their website (such as DBSYNC from
the RACF goodies page) but I doubt any of it comes with a 400 page formal
SCxx manual.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Todd Last

According to today's virtual event, the EC12 is the 12th generation of modern 
mainframes.  Can anyone list out the 11 previous generations?

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QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

2012-08-28 Thread willie bunter

Hallo All,
 
I am trying to recycle a damaged ML2 tape.  The RECYCLE rolls along however 
when it hits a particular dsn the recycle terminates.  I deleted the migrated 
dsn (ML2) so as to bypass the problem however it doesn't work.  Is there a way 
of having the RECYCLE bypass this troublesome dsn on the ML2 tape?
 
Thanks for your comments in advance. 

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:44:32 -0500, Todd Last wrote:

According to today's virtual event, the EC12 is the 12th generation of modern 
mainframes.  Can anyone list out the 11 previous generations?

Something like:

Matthew 1
King James Version (KJV)

1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of 
Abraham.
2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his 
brethren;
3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom 
begat Aram;
4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
  ...

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Kirk Wolf

From:
http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#core-textrep

 The primitive data type char in the Java programming language is an
unsigned 16-bit integer that can represent a Unicode code point in the
range U+ to U+, or the code units of
UTF-16http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#utf-16
.

Confusing eh?
I guess you would call what Java uses internally a UTF-16 subset.

So, technically not UTF-16, but practically UTF-16  (a two-byte UTF-16
subset)


On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote:

 On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 10:39:03 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:
 
 UTF-16 is used in Java (and other languages) as the internal
 representation
 of characters and strings (each character represented by two bytes).
 
 No.  Not according to:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-16

 UTF-16 (16-bit Unicode Transformation Format) is a character encoding
 for
 Unicode capable of encoding 1,112,064[1] numbers (called code points)
 in the
 Unicode code space from 0 to 0x10. It produces a variable-length
 result
 of either one or two 16-bit code units per code point.

 And:

 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2781.txt

The rules for how characters are encoded in UTF-16 are:

-  Characters with values less than 0x1 are represented as a
   single 16-bit integer with a value equal to that of the character
   number.

-  Characters with values between 0x1 and 0x10 are
   represented by a 16-bit integer with a value between 0xD800 and
   0xDBFF (within the so-called high-half zone or high surrogate
   area) followed by a 16-bit integer with a value between 0xDC00 and
   0xDFFF (within the so-called low-half zone or low surrogate area).

-  Characters with values greater than 0x10 cannot be encoded in
   UTF-16.

 -- gil

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

IBM System z z114 2818 mainframes
IBM System z z196 2817 mainframes
IBM System z z10 BC 2098 mainframes
IBM System z z10 EC 2097 mainframes
IBM Series z z9 BC Danu 2096 mainframes
IBM Series z z9 EC Danu 2094 mainframes
IBM zSeries 2086 mainframes
IBM zSeries 2084 mainframes
IBM zSeries 2066 mainframes
IBM zSeries 2066 mainframes for Linux
IBM zSeries 2064 mainframes



From:   Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com
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Date:   08/28/2012 12:29 PM
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Can anyone list out the 11 previous generations

9672 G1-G6
z800/900
z890/990
z9 EC/BC
z10 EC/BC
z196/z114

Bob Shannon
Rocket Software

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 11:29:48 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote:

From:
http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#core-textrep

 The primitive data type char in the Java programming language is an
unsigned 16-bit integer that can represent a Unicode code point in the
range U+ to U+, or the code units of
UTF-16http://java.sun.com/javase/technologies/core/basic/intl/faq.jsp#utf-16
.
Which does describe UTF-16 as a variable-length encoding of which
Java uses a subset.

Confusing eh?
I guess you would call what Java uses internally a UTF-16 subset.

So, technically not UTF-16, but practically UTF-16  (a two-byte UTF-16
subset)
 
That's more like UCS-2.  Big-endian or little-endian?

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IBMLink down again?

2012-08-28 Thread Thomas Conley

Anybody having trouble accessing IBMLink?  Getting the Our apologies 
Server 500 error page.


Regards,
Tom Conley

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Kirk Talman

I thought we called them engines because each engine was two cores for 
redundancy and error detection.

IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 
08/28/2012 06:52:08 AM:

 From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com

 EC12, 120 cores, z196, 96 cores.


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Re: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

2012-08-28 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht

Uwe Oswald wrote:

has somebody ever tried to exclude (!) SMF records from a dataset with DFSORT? 
My interest is especially to exclude several (more than one)  date and time 
ranges. Has someone an example for me, please?

Not sure which date field you're using for subsetting your data, but I have 
some production sample using ICETOOL for display while editing the fields:

TITLE('SMF TYPE-?? RECORDS') DATE(4MD/) -   
HEADER('DATE') ON(11,4,DT1,E'/99/99') - 
HEADER('TIME') ON(7,4,TM4,E'99:99:99.99') - 
... etc ...

Basically you use DT1 and TM4 to extract and compare your date/time for later 
subsetting.

This leads me to something like a COPY with these INCLUDE statements:

INCLUDE COND=(11,4,DT1,GE,Z'19800101',AND,
11,4,DT1,GE,Z'20121231')

Above is from memory/manual and is UNTESTED. [1] I don't have EXCLUDE sample at 
this moment...

HTH!

Look at http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T793

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - From  DFSORT Application Programming Guide:

I get this tidbits:

DT1 - 4 bytes - SMF date interpreted as Z'mmdd'
TM4 - 4 bytes - SMF time interpreted as Z'hhmmssxx'

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-28 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2012-08-28 17:59, Roger W. Suhr pisze:

No, it's not illogical. We use Format 1 DSCB entries as model DSCB for
GDG's and other things. No data space use is needed for that, so we
allocate TRK=0. No problem there!

Well, it depends on the point of view.
Datasets by definition are for keeping data, not to make GRS ENQ, not
to be DSCB model (BTW: haven't heard anyone about SMS? DATACLASS or even
LIKE?). Zero-space dataset is like PDS with zero directory. Possible to
create, but not usable as intended.

BTW: it's NOT similar to /dev/null or DD DUMMY. Zero-space dataset is
real object, consuming real resources (VTOC, maybe catalog) with no real
(as intended) use.

Of course, as I already said, it's perfectly possible, legal and IBM
supported to use such datasets for the purposes as above or maybe others
as well.

BTW2: Another parallel comes to my mind: IEFBR14. Usually we expect the
program to do something. ;-) Usually we expect dataset to contain some
data...

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Re: execs or scripts

Other people's parsing machinery is, in my experience, usable only for
context-free 'languages'; and since I devise and use only
context-sensitive--yes, PL/I-like--languages, I have found that I must
build my own parsing machinery; and this is easy enough to do using
REXX.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2012-08-28 16:29, Paul Gilmartin pisze:

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:55:43 +, Meral Temel (Garanti Teknoloji) wrote:

One cryptographic/compression co-processor per core

Presumably optionally disabled to comply with export restrictions?
I'm told we have the cryptographic PRNG disabled on most of our
processors because it's separately priced. Is that true? Will it
ever change?

I really doubt it. CPACF is free of charge and AFAIK not restricted (I
don't know about Cuba or North Korea). Secure key cryptography requires
Crypto cards which cost money - like FICON or OSA card.

No special fee for PRNG, no special paid LIC (except CPACF).

BTW: I'm not including old machines - z/900 and older, which have had CCF.

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

Attempting to distinguish empty files from nul strings and the like
Ron Skorupka writes:

begin extract
Zero-space dataset is real object, consuming real resources (VTOC,
maybe catalog) with no real (as intended) use.
end extract/

but nul strings also consume resources in just this way.  The PL/I
varying character string nada of

declare nada character varying(0)  ;

is comprised of a halfword prefix having the value 0.  Or again, its C
analogue is comprised of a single eos-delimiter byte, x'00'.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread shai hess

Why IBM manufacture new MF?
Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com wrote:

 I thought we called them engines because each engine was two cores for
 redundancy and error detection.

 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on
 08/28/2012 06:52:08 AM:

  From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com

  EC12, 120 cores, z196, 96 cores.


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Re: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

2012-08-28 Thread Blaicher, Christopher Y.

Uwe,

There are numerous ways to solve the problem you have outlined.  One way you 
can do it is using an INCLUDE or OMIT statement.  Every SMF record has the same 
format header portion that has the type (offset 5, sort column 6), time (offset 
6, sort column 7) and date (offset 10, sort column 11) in it.

Depending on your needs and the number of different time groups you want to 
include or exclude will determine if you use INCLUDE or OMIT.  Let's say you 
only want SMF data from 10:00AM to 11:00AM and 1:00pm to 2:00PM and only type 
14 and 15 records.

INCLUDE COND=(((6,1,BI,EQ,14,OR,6,1,BI,EQ,15),AND,
   (7,4,BI,GT,360,AND,7,4,BI,LT,396)),OR,
  ((6,1,BI,EQ,14,OR,6,1,BI,EQ,15),AND,
   (7,4,BI,GT,468,AND,7,4,BI,LT,504)))

As you can see, INCLUDE/OMIT can get quite complicated.  I suggest that you use 
parentheses to insure you get what you want rather than base things on the 
precedence of operators.

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Syncsort Incorporated
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Of Williamson, James R
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Subject: Re: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

You can also select date and time ranges with the IBM program IFASMFDP


//DUMP EXEC PGM=IFASMFDP
//DUMPIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MANX
//*
//DUMPOUT  DD  DSN=   ,DISP=(,CATLG),
// DCB=(LRECL=32760,RECFM=VBS,BLKSIZE=0),
//   SPACE=(CYL,(1999,99),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  *
  OUTDD(DUMPOUT,TYPE(0:255))
  INDD(DUMPIN,OPTIONS(DUMP))
 START(0900)
 END(1000)
 SID(MVSP)
 DATE(2009022,2009022)
/*
//




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Of Uwe Oswald
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:05 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

Hi,

has somebody ever tried to exclude (!) SMF records from a dataset with DFSORT? 
My interest is especially to exclude several (more than one)  date and time 
ranges. Has someone an example for me, please?

Thx in advance.

Cheers,
Uwe


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Re: IBMLink down again?

2012-08-28 Thread Paul Peplinski

Down for me all day. Been trying since 8:30 Central

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

I made 'Radoslaw' into 'Ron', for which I apologize.

--jg

On 8/28/12, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Attempting to distinguish empty files from nul strings and the like
 Ron Skorupka writes:

 begin extract
 Zero-space dataset is real object, consuming real resources (VTOC,
 maybe catalog) with no real (as intended) use.
 end extract/

 but nul strings also consume resources in just this way.  The PL/I
 varying character string nada of

 declare nada character varying(0)  ;

 is comprised of a halfword prefix having the value 0.  Or again, its C
 analogue is comprised of a single eos-delimiter byte, x'00'.

 --jg


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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Scott Ford

1 pt for Kees

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Re: execs or scripts

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:21:14 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:

Other people's parsing machinery is, in my experience, usable only for
context-free 'languages'; and since I devise and use only
context-sensitive--yes, PL/I-like--languages, I have found that I must
build my own parsing machinery; and this is easy enough to do using
REXX.
 
No language that requires identifiers to be declared is context-free,
though some phrases in such languages may be parsed by
context-unaware machinery, usually subject to availability of a
symbol table.  In effect, the symbol table converts declared
identifiers to terminal symbols in the parser's view.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

and it fits very few environments running now ( other then up-to-date  Z/os
shops )
and eliminated ESCON
there would have to be major lic cost saving to even look into this, which
I did not see mentioned



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Why IBM manufacture new MF?
Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:52 PM, Kirk Talman rkueb...@tsys.com wrote:

 I thought we called them engines because each engine was two cores for
 redundancy and error detection.

 IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on
 08/28/2012 06:52:08 AM:

  From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com

  EC12, 120 cores, z196, 96 cores.


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Re: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

2012-08-28 Thread Sri h Kolusu

Uwe,

The SMF dates DT1, DT2, DT3 are of the format (X'0cyydddF') in their raw 
form. So you can treat them as PD fields and extract the data you want.

ex:

//STEP0100 EXEC PGM=SORT 
//SYSOUT   DD SYSOUT=* 
//SORTIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=Your Input SMF file
//SORTOUT  DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSINDD * 
  OPTION COPY,VLSHRT 
  INCLUDE COND=(06,1,BI,EQ,16,AND,  $ TYPE 16 
   (7,4,BI,GT,360,AND,  $ TIME 
7,4,BI,LT,396),AND, 
11,4,PD,EQ,112215)  $ (X'0CYYDDDF' = AUG02 12) 
//*  

Elardus Engelbrecht,

You cannot use DTn formats with INCLUDE/OMIT

Thanks,
Sri Hari Kolusu
DFSORT Development
IBM Corporation
Email: skol...@us.ibm.com
Phone: 408-463-2403 Tie Line 543-2403

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 From: Uwe Oswald uwe.osw...@zit-consulting.com
 To: IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu, 
 Date: 08/28/2012 08:06 AM
 Subject: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT
 Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@listserv.ua.edu
 
 Hi,
 
 has somebody ever tried to exclude (!) SMF records from a dataset 
 with DFSORT? My interest is especially to exclude several (more than
 one)  date and time ranges. Has someone an example for me, please?
 
 Thx in advance.
 
 Cheers,
 Uwe
 
 
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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Mark Post

 On 8/28/2012 at 01:31 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Why IBM manufacture new MF?

Because customers will buy them.

 Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

According to IBM, a total of 142-150 new customers since 2009.  Workload growth 
rate of existing customers is averaging around 30% per year.


Mark Post

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-28 Thread Linda

We still have some too.

Linda

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 27, 2012, at 8:17 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 27, 2012 at 9:02 PM, retired mainframer
 retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote:
 
 Doesn't anyone use model DSCBs anymore?
 
 We still have some hanging around.
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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Mark Post

 On 8/28/2012 at 01:59 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote: 
 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:
 
  On 8/28/2012 at 01:31 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote:
-snip-
  Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

 According to IBM, a total of 142-150 new customers since 2009.  Workload
 growth rate of existing customers is averaging around 30% per year.

  Using LINUX or ZOS?

Some of both.  I'm aware of some Linux-only new customers, and others that are 
z/OS customers.


Mark Post

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Re: IBMLink down again?

2012-08-28 Thread Thomas Conley


On 8/28/2012 1:33 PM, Paul Peplinski wrote:

Down for me all day. Been trying since 8:30 Central

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Paul,

Finally called the IBMLink Helpless Desk, and after clearing cache 5 
times, it finally worked.


Good luck,
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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Dave Day

To me what would be more interesting would be some statistics on shops 
that migrated off the platform, and have since come back.


I doubt if after having gone thru the time and expense of converting to 
a unix or windows based platform, many would be willing to
pay that time and expense again, to come back, even if the current 
platform left a lot to be desired.


Another statistic that would be interesting is how many tried to leave, 
and failed.


--Dave

On 8/28/2012 1:08 PM, shai hess wrote:

I wish IBM will publish the real number about the total number of customers
of MF in all world.
The reason is that the feeling is that many MF site shutdown MF site.
Publish the real number can support many of us who work and support
mainly the MF computers.

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:


On 8/28/2012 at 01:31 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote:

Why IBM manufacture new MF?

Because customers will buy them.

  OK.



Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

According to IBM, a total of 142-150 new customers since 2009.

  Workload growth rate of existing customers is averaging around 30% per
year.

  Using LINUX or ZOS?
Mark Post

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Skip Robinson

No one has mentioned the enhancement that most interests us:the EC12 can 
be installed in a data center *without raised floor*.  Slab floors have 
become de rigour for new built-from-scratch data centers. The z114 can be 
mounted on slab but not the z196. This is the first Enterprise Class 
mainframe that can live happily in the brave new world. 

.
.
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SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
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From:   August Carideo august.cari...@avon.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   08/28/2012 10:41 AM
Subject:Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



and it fits very few environments running now ( other then up-to-date Z/os
shops )
and eliminated ESCON
there would have to be major lic cost saving to even look into this, which
I did not see mentioned



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To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date:   08/28/2012 01:31 PM
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Why IBM manufacture new MF?
Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?


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AW: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

2012-08-28 Thread Uwe Oswald

Hi Chris,

thank you very much for the statement. That's exactly what I have been looking 
for. I'll try to use OMIT but has to read the manuals for the OMIT statement.

I appreciate your help.

Cheers from Germany,
Uwe

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Uwe,

There are numerous ways to solve the problem you have outlined.  One way you 
can do it is using an INCLUDE or OMIT statement.  Every SMF record has the same 
format header portion that has the type (offset 5, sort column 6), time (offset 
6, sort column 7) and date (offset 10, sort column 11) in it.

Depending on your needs and the number of different time groups you want to 
include or exclude will determine if you use INCLUDE or OMIT.  Let's say you 
only want SMF data from 10:00AM to 11:00AM and 1:00pm to 2:00PM and only type 
14 and 15 records.

INCLUDE COND=(((6,1,BI,EQ,14,OR,6,1,BI,EQ,15),AND,
   (7,4,BI,GT,360,AND,7,4,BI,LT,396)),OR,
  ((6,1,BI,EQ,14,OR,6,1,BI,EQ,15),AND,
   (7,4,BI,GT,468,AND,7,4,BI,LT,504)))

As you can see, INCLUDE/OMIT can get quite complicated.  I suggest that you use 
parentheses to insure you get what you want rather than base things on the 
precedence of operators.

Chris Blaicher
Senior Software Engineer, Software Services Syncsort Incorporated
50 Tice Boulevard, Woodcliff Lake, NJ 07677
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Of Williamson, James R
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You can also select date and time ranges with the IBM program IFASMFDP


//DUMP EXEC PGM=IFASMFDP
//DUMPIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.MANX
//*
//DUMPOUT  DD  DSN=   ,DISP=(,CATLG),
// DCB=(LRECL=32760,RECFM=VBS,BLKSIZE=0),
//   SPACE=(CYL,(1999,99),RLSE),UNIT=SYSDA
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD  *
  OUTDD(DUMPOUT,TYPE(0:255))
  INDD(DUMPIN,OPTIONS(DUMP))
 START(0900)
 END(1000)
 SID(MVSP)
 DATE(2009022,2009022)
/*
//




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Subject: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

Hi,

has somebody ever tried to exclude (!) SMF records from a dataset with DFSORT? 
My interest is especially to exclude several (more than one)  date and time 
ranges. Has someone an example for me, please?

Thx in advance.

Cheers,
Uwe


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AW: Exclude SMF Records by datetime with DFSORT

2012-08-28 Thread Uwe Oswald

I definitly have to spend some time on this to get a better understanding what 
I can achieve with that stuff... Thx for your feedback

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Gesendet: Dienstag, 28. August 2012 19:03
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Uwe Oswald wrote:

has somebody ever tried to exclude (!) SMF records from a dataset with DFSORT? 
My interest is especially to exclude several (more than one)  date and time 
ranges. Has someone an example for me, please?

Not sure which date field you're using for subsetting your data, but I have 
some production sample using ICETOOL for display while editing the fields:

TITLE('SMF TYPE-?? RECORDS') DATE(4MD/) -   
HEADER('DATE') ON(11,4,DT1,E'/99/99') -
HEADER('TIME') ON(7,4,TM4,E'99:99:99.99') - ... etc ...

Basically you use DT1 and TM4 to extract and compare your date/time for later 
subsetting.

This leads me to something like a COPY with these INCLUDE statements:

INCLUDE COND=(11,4,DT1,GE,Z'19800101',AND,
11,4,DT1,GE,Z'20121231')

Above is from memory/manual and is UNTESTED. [1] I don't have EXCLUDE sample at 
this moment...

HTH!

Look at http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg3T793

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

[1] - From  DFSORT Application Programming Guide:

I get this tidbits:

DT1 - 4 bytes - SMF date interpreted as Z'mmdd'
TM4 - 4 bytes - SMF time interpreted as Z'hhmmssxx'

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcement

and how many have been trying for 10 years plus
and $ wasted just because some manage by airline magazine type would not
just back down and admit it was wrong decision
so forced it to so called completion anyway

From:   Dave Day david...@consolidated.net
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date:   08/28/2012 02:17 PM
Subject:Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
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To me what would be more interesting would be some statistics on shops
that migrated off the platform, and have since come back.

I doubt if after having gone thru the time and expense of converting to
a unix or windows based platform, many would be willing to
pay that time and expense again, to come back, even if the current
platform left a lot to be desired.

Another statistic that would be interesting is how many tried to leave,
and failed.

 --Dave

On 8/28/2012 1:08 PM, shai hess wrote:
 I wish IBM will publish the real number about the total number of
customers
 of MF in all world.
 The reason is that the feeling is that many MF site shutdown MF site.
 Publish the real number can support many of us who work and support
 mainly the MF computers.

 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:

 On 8/28/2012 at 01:31 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote:
 Why IBM manufacture new MF?
 Because customers will buy them.
   OK.

 Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?
 According to IBM, a total of 142-150 new customers since 2009.
   Workload growth rate of existing customers is averaging around 30%
per
 year.

   Using LINUX or ZOS?
 Mark Post

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

who says you cant install a Z/9 or z/10 w/o a raised floor LOL

From:   Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date:   08/28/2012 02:22 PM
Subject:Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

No one has mentioned the enhancement that most interests us:the EC12 can
be installed in a data center *without raised floor*.  Slab floors have
become de rigour for new built-from-scratch data centers. The z114 can be
mounted on slab but not the z196. This is the first Enterprise Class
mainframe that can live happily in the brave new world.

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com

From:   August Carideo august.cari...@avon.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   08/28/2012 10:41 AM
Subject:Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

and it fits very few environments running now ( other then up-to-date Z/os
shops )
and eliminated ESCON
there would have to be major lic cost saving to even look into this, which
I did not see mentioned

From:   shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU,
Date:   08/28/2012 01:31 PM
Subject:Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU

Why IBM manufacture new MF?
Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread R.S.

W dniu 2012-08-28 19:54, Mark Post pisze:

On 8/28/2012 at 01:31 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com
wrote:

Why IBM manufacture new MF?

Because customers will buy them.

Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

According to IBM, a total of 142-150 new customers since 2009.

How do you know? Did IBM publish the number anywhere?

Workload growth rate of existing customers is averaging around 30%
per year.

IMHO it's not good measure. For example, my team just have got new
laptops. The number of team members didn't grow, the number of machines
par capita is still approx. 1. The number of MIPS (or other CPU speed
units) grew up over 100%.

BTW: Even IBM admit the number of mainframe datacenters is not growing
due to consolidation.

BTW: IMHO the most important feature of new machine is SSD paging
device. Similar to expanded memory in the times of ESA. Back to the
future...

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Re: execs or scripts

This is a novel and not, I think, a very useful definition of
context-sensitive; but à chacun son goût.

The useful practical distinction is that between languages, like C and
COBOL, that employ reserved words and languages, like PL/I, that do
not.

Academic computer scientists like reserved words, which at the price
of impediments to growth, make compiler writing marginally easier.
Some of the rest of us do not.

--jg

On 8/28/12, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
 On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:21:14 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:

Other people's parsing machinery is, in my experience, usable only for
context-free 'languages'; and since I devise and use only
context-sensitive--yes, PL/I-like--languages, I have found that I must
build my own parsing machinery; and this is easy enough to do using
REXX.

 No language that requires identifiers to be declared is context-free,
 though some phrases in such languages may be parsed by
 context-unaware machinery, usually subject to availability of a
 symbol table.  In effect, the symbol table converts declared
 identifiers to terminal symbols in the parser's view.

 -- gil

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Java 7 vulnerability

2012-08-28 Thread Mike Schwab

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230656/Macs_at_risk_from_super_dangerous_Java_zero_day

Has Java 7 made it to z/OS?  Has anyone tested for this vulnerability?

The problem was new to Java 7, so one suggestion is to uninstall Java
7 and re-install Java 6 until patched.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Edward Jaffe


On 8/28/2012 7:27 AM, Knutson, Sam wrote:

The biggest surprise for me was zAware the new monitoring appliance running in 
an LPAR.  This appears to be chargeable and currently just monitoring messages 
but moving infrastructure overhead and function out of the z/OS space into an 
LPAR is the MIPS Vacuum for this type of workload I have hoped to see for a 
while now.


When I first heard about this, I thought of you right away, Sam! I sorely wanted 
to ask if you had any direct input into this design! :-)


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Re: zEC12 IFL

2012-08-28 Thread Mark Post

 On 8/28/2012 at 03:52 PM, Jose Correa Saldeñojcor...@evertecinc.com 
 wrote: 
 Hi all.
 
  How much improvement in speed  can we expect going from z10 IFLs to the  
 zEC12 IFLs  

The same as what was claimed for the full-speed general processors (CPs).


Mark Post

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Re: Java 7 vulnerability

2012-08-28 Thread Kirk Wolf

According to this:  http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA12-240A.html
the vulnerability is limited to Oracle Java 1.7.0

Also, the vulnerability is an exploit that allows java code to break out of
a Java SecurityManager.   This is most important when Java is being run on
a machine under a browser - the SecurityManager boxes the network-loaded
code in a sandbox.   Not the typical scenario for z.

But you could contact IBM to inquire if your IBM SDK is affected

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.comwrote:


 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230656/Macs_at_risk_from_super_dangerous_Java_zero_day

 Has Java 7 made it to z/OS?  Has anyone tested for this vulnerability?

 The problem was new to Java 7, so one suggestion is to uninstall Java
 7 and re-install Java 6 until patched.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Knutson, Sam

Many shops especially IBM's largest customers have requirements that are met by 
the new zEC12.  There are significant costs savings possible.

They can save money by consolidating multiple footprints using the increased 
capacity and meeting performance challenges.
Some applications are limited to a single unit of work but are still very 
important to customers so faster processors are important in order to keep up 
with growth.
- 25% faster processors yielding 50% more capacity in a single footprint with 
up to 101 customer usable cores.

Software savings derived from a decrease in MLC rates can help offset price 
increases and growing software costs from usage

http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=ansubtype=caappname=gpateamsupplier=877letternum=ENUSZP12-0416
 

New technology Flash Express memory offers significant promise to eliminate I/O 
and reduce CPU cycles improve throughput for the workloads that can benefit 
looks like large page exploiters and dumping for diagnostic data capture right 
away.  Everything old is new again seems like Expanded Storage but the cost has 
been advertised as dramatically lower than central storage and with up to 6.4TB 
and a relatively short instruction path to get their compared even to SSD disk 
you can see some interesting applications beyond what is already coming.  A 
cost of $125K for 1.6TB of Flash Express was mentioned in today's post 
announcement chat room but I have not seen that confirmed yet so am very 
interested to see more detailed pricing.   

If IBM is investing significant ($1B) amounts of money in RD you would expect 
they are doing it to benefit customers who have needs they are willing to pay 
to meet.  Those same customers are investing in staying current on z/OS to 
protect their investment.   What else do you expect them to do?


    Best Regards, 

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    System z Team Leader 
    mailto:sknut...@geico.com 
    (office)  301.986.3574 
    (cell) 301.996.1318  
Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... 


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and it fits very few environments running now ( other then up-to-date  Z/os 
shops ) and eliminated ESCON there would have to be major lic cost saving to 
even look into this, which I did not see mentioned



From:   shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com
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Date:   08/28/2012 01:31 PM
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Re: Java 7 vulnerability

IBM should be consulted, certainly; but there is strong evidence that
this vulnerability is an ORACLE-specific one.

Code-sharing aside, vulnerabilities are implementation-specific; and
code sharing between IBM and ORACLE would be enormously interesting,
not least because of the vanishingly small probability that it would
occur.

--jg

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 According to this:  http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA12-240A.html
 the vulnerability is limited to Oracle Java 1.7.0

 Also, the vulnerability is an exploit that allows java code to break out of
 a Java SecurityManager.   This is most important when Java is being run on
 a machine under a browser - the SecurityManager boxes the network-loaded
 code in a sandbox.   Not the typical scenario for z.

 But you could contact IBM to inquire if your IBM SDK is affected

 Kirk Wolf
 Dovetailed Technologies
 http://dovetail.com

 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Mike Schwab
 mike.a.sch...@gmail.comwrote:


 http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9230656/Macs_at_risk_from_super_dangerous_Java_zero_day

 Has Java 7 made it to z/OS?  Has anyone tested for this vulnerability?

 The problem was new to Java 7, so one suggestion is to uninstall Java
 7 and re-install Java 6 until patched.

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-28 Thread Richard Peurifoy


On 8/28/2012 3:19 PM, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:

Shmuel Metz  , Seymour J. shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:

In 503bf5eb.5010...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 08/28/2012
   at 12:34 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:



Valid, but illogical. Data set with zero size is illogical.



No.



That's exploitation of side effect. Stilla valid (it works, so
it is valid), but it's still illogical.



It's perfectly logical, as are /dev/null and DUMMY.


But for CKD doesn't there have to be some place to write the EOF?


I think BSAM/QSAM will simulate an EOF without doing any I/O
to the data set if you try to read it.

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-28 Thread Skip Robinson

My 'interested colleague' Meral Temel supplied a crucial piece of the 
puzzle. She filled up a volume totally with ordinary data sets to where 
external indicators showed zero tracks of free space. She then allocated a 
zero-space data set on the volume with no error. There could not have been 
a spot for any fragment of the data set to be written outside the VTOC. 

I know that ISPF Browse will show 'no data' if it judges from the VTOC 
that utilization is zero, as in 3.2, regardless of what might be there 
physically.  OTOH IEBGENER attempts read a file until EOF regardless of 
VTOC info. I ran GENER to print a zero-space data set:. The result is the 
same as if the only data on the first track were EOF. 

DATA SET UTILITY - GENERATE 
 
PROCESSING ENDED AT EOD 

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From:   Richard Peurifoy r-peuri...@neo.tamu.edu
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   08/28/2012 01:33 PM
Subject:Re: Space Allocation In Bytes
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On 8/28/2012 3:19 PM, glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
 Shmuel Metz  , Seymour J. shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:
 In 503bf5eb.5010...@bremultibank.com.pl, on 08/28/2012
at 12:34 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl said:

 Valid, but illogical. Data set with zero size is illogical.

 No.

 That's exploitation of side effect. Stilla valid (it works, so
 it is valid), but it's still illogical.

 It's perfectly logical, as are /dev/null and DUMMY.

 But for CKD doesn't there have to be some place to write the EOF?

I think BSAM/QSAM will simulate an EOF without doing any I/O
to the data set if you try to read it.

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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Eric Bielefeld

I'm curious - what do you do with all the cables coming in to the machine.  
Obviously you have a power cable, and all the channel cables.  Do they get hung 
from the ceiling if you have no raised floor?

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 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: 
 No one has mentioned the enhancement that most interests us:the EC12 can 
 be installed in a data center *without raised floor*.  Slab floors have 
 become de rigour for new built-from-scratch data centers. The z114 can be 
 mounted on slab but not the z196. This is the first Enterprise Class 
 mainframe that can live happily in the brave new world. 
 
 .
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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Skip Robinson

With the EC12, according to our IBM rep, all cables come down from the 
ceiling, which is provided for in a slab-only data center. 

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From:   Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:   08/28/2012 02:53 PM
Subject:Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment
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I'm curious - what do you do with all the cables coming in to the machine. 
 Obviously you have a power cable, and all the channel cables.  Do they 
get hung from the ceiling if you have no raised floor?

--
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Systems Programmer


 Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: 
 No one has mentioned the enhancement that most interests us:the EC12 can 

 be installed in a data center *without raised floor*.  Slab floors have 
 become de rigour for new built-from-scratch data centers. The z114 can 
be 
 mounted on slab but not the z196. This is the first Enterprise Class 
 mainframe that can live happily in the brave new world. 
 
 .
 .
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HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

G'Day,
 
I restored a DB2 VSAM dsn (which was deleted in error) on to the volume which 
it used to reside on.  The restore was from a full volume dump.  All went well 
however it didn't catalog the CLUSTER  COMPONENT:
 
2012.241 17:51:51 EXECUTION BEGINS 
THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
RELEASE 13 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0 ON 2012.231 05:41:01   
DATA SET CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 COMPONENT   
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): SMP116    
THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS FOR CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 
ON SMP116 MAY HAVE TO BE 
CATALOGED IN CATALOG CHATT.UCAT   
 COMPONENT VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001   
THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED FROM VOLUME SMP116 
 VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001    VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0
2012.241 17:52:50 EXECUTION ENDS   
2012.241 17:52:50 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE   
   
 
I tried the following to catalog the component:
   
    DEFINE CL (NAME(VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001)  -  
    VOLUMES(SMP116)  - 
 RCTLG) -  
 CATALOG('CHATT.UCAT')    
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR 
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 86 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEY-6 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 
   
IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12 
 
Could someone suggest something that I could try?
 
Thanks.

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Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

2012-08-28 Thread Lizette Koehler

Did you look up the IDC3009I message

6   Explanation: Either the primary VSAM volume record  
 
(VVR) points to another catalog, or the primary VVR or  
 
non-VSAM volume record (NVR) for the object being   
 
recataloged was not found on the first volume serial
 
number specified. The primary VVR or NVR contains the   
 
data set information needed to recatalog the object.
 

 
Possible causes of this error are:  
 

 
o   No VVR exists.  
 

 
o   A VVR exists, but it points to another catalog. 
 

 
o   Parameters were not specified as they were when 
 
the cluster was originally defined. The parameters  
 
are NAME, INDEXED, LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED,
 
and VOLUMES.
 
  Programmer Response:  

  If no VVR exists, then re-issue the DEFINE command,   
  without the RECATALOG parameter, for the ICF catalog. 

  If the VVR exists but points to a different catalog,  
  specify the correct catalog and re-issue the DEFINE   
  command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

  If the original values for parameters NAME, INDEXED,  
  LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED, and VOLUMES were not
  specified, specify the original values and re-issue   
  the DEFINE command with the RECATALOG parameter.  

Have you tried adding LINEAR?  Or is it the correct catalog (I tend to not 
include a catalog)?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

G'Day,
 
I restored a DB2 VSAM dsn (which was deleted in error) on to the volume which 
it used to reside on.  The restore was from a full volume dump.  All went well 
however it didn't catalog the CLUSTER  COMPONENT:
 
2012.241 17:51:51 EXECUTION BEGINS 
THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
RELEASE 13 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0 ON 2012.231 05:41:01   
DATA SET CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 COMPONENT   
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): SMP116    
THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS FOR CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 
ON SMP116 MAY HAVE TO BE 
CATALOGED IN CATALOG CHATT.UCAT   
 COMPONENT VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001   
THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED FROM VOLUME SMP116 
 VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001    VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0
2012.241 17:52:50 EXECUTION ENDS   
2012.241 17:52:50 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE  
    
 
I tried the following to catalog the component:
   
    DEFINE CL (NAME(VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001)  -  
    VOLUMES(SMP116)  - 
 RCTLG) -  
 CATALOG('CHATT.UCAT')    
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR 
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 86 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEY-6 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12 
   
IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12 
 
Could someone suggest something that I could try?
 
Thanks.


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The cluster and the data component have a different names.  Do I need to 
recatalog the cluster too? 




From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The most common problem with VSAM is failing to specify the proper value 
for indexed/nonindexed. It must match the actual cluster. 

.
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From:  Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To:    IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:  08/28/2012 04:01 PM
Subject:        Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS
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Did you look up the IDC3009I message

6                  Explanation: Either the primary VSAM volume record    

                    (VVR) points to another catalog, or the primary VVR or 

                    non-VSAM volume record (NVR) for the object being    
                    recataloged was not found on the first volume serial  

                    number specified. The primary VVR or NVR contains the  

                    data set information needed to recatalog the object.  

  
                    Possible causes of this error are:  
  
                    o  No VVR exists.  
  
                    o  A VVR exists, but it points to another catalog.    

  
                    o  Parameters were not specified as they were when    

                        the cluster was originally defined. The parameters 

                        are NAME, INDEXED, LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED,  

                        and VOLUMES.  
              Programmer Response: 

              If no VVR exists, then re-issue the DEFINE command, 
              without the RECATALOG parameter, for the ICF catalog. 

              If the VVR exists but points to a different catalog, 
              specify the correct catalog and re-issue the DEFINE 
              command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

              If the original values for parameters NAME, INDEXED, 
              LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED, and VOLUMES were not 
              specified, specify the original values and re-issue 
              the DEFINE command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

Have you tried adding LINEAR?  Or is it the correct catalog (I tend to not 
include a catalog)?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

G'Day,
 
I restored a DB2 VSAM dsn (which was deleted in error) on to the volume 
which it used to reside on.  The restore was from a full volume dump.  All 
went well however it didn't catalog the CLUSTER  COMPONENT:
 
2012.241 17:51:51 EXECUTION 
BEGINS                                            
THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
RELEASE 13 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0 ON 2012.231 
05:41:01                          
DATA SET CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 
COMPONENT          
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): 
SMP116    
THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS FOR CLUSTER 
VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ON SMP116 MAY HAVE TO BE 
CATALOGED IN CATALOG 
CHATT.UCAT                                              
 COMPONENT 
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001                          
THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED FROM VOLUME 
SMP116        
 VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001    
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0
2012.241 17:52:50 EXECUTION 
ENDS                                              
2012.241 17:52:50 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 
                                                            
 
I tried the following to catalog the component:
                                                                      
    DEFINE CL (NAME(VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001)  -      
    VOLUMES(SMP116)  -                                                
    RCTLG)        -                                                  
    CATALOG('CHATT.UCAT')                                            
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR                                                
IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 86 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLEY-6 
IDC3003I FUNCTION TERMINATED. CONDITION CODE IS 12                    
                                                                      
IDC0002I IDCAMS PROCESSING COMPLETE. MAXIMUM CONDITION CODE WAS 12    
 
Could someone suggest something that I could try?
 
Thanks.


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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:33:15 -0500, Richard Peurifoy wrote:

 But for CKD doesn't there have to be some place to write the EOF?

I think BSAM/QSAM will simulate an EOF without doing any I/O
to the data set if you try to read it.
 
Yup.  As I said here lately, I've depended on that behavior in the past.
And I believe that if the primary extent is exactly filled, the OS will
not allocate a secondary merely to write that EOF.

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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:45:42 -0700, Skip Robinson wrote:

I know that ISPF Browse will show 'no data' if it judges from the VTOC
that utilization is zero, as in 3.2, regardless of what might be there
physically.  OTOH IEBGENER attempts read a file until EOF regardless of
VTOC info. I ran GENER to print a zero-space data set:. The result is the
same as if the only data on the first track were EOF.
 
I believe this is the behavior of QSAM.  BSAM at least in the past
behaved otherwise; cheerfully reading residual, likely invalid, data.

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Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

2012-08-28 Thread willie bunter

By using FORCE would I lose the tape?  I remember once before I did that and I 
think it got deleted from HSM.  

From: Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: QUESTION ON HSM ; BYPASSING DSNS ON A ML2 TAPE

HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOL(xx) FORCE ? What you have described is usually 
successful.

You might also recall the datasets past the damaged point individually. When 
all have been recalled HSEND RECYCLE EXECUTE VOLUME(xx) FORCE 
This tape should then free up without a mount.

HTH,

snip
I am trying to recycle a damaged ML2 tape.  The RECYCLE rolls along however 
when it hits a particular dsn the recycle terminates.  I deleted the migrated 
dsn (ML2) so as to bypass the problem however it doesn't work.  Is there a way 
of having the RECYCLE bypass this troublesome dsn on the ML2 tape?
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Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

Lizette,
 
Would you have an example using LINEAR?  



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

John,

I have not done this but I would catalog the DB2 Cluster Name with LINEAR in 
the IDCAMS control cards.

Lizette

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The cluster and the data component have a different names.  Do I need to 
recatalog the cluster too? 




From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The most common problem with VSAM is failing to specify the proper value 
for indexed/nonindexed. It must match the actual cluster. 

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
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From:  Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To:    IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:  08/28/2012 04:01 PM
Subject:        Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS
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Did you look up the IDC3009I message

6                  Explanation: Either the primary VSAM volume record    

                    (VVR) points to another catalog, or the primary VVR or 

                    non-VSAM volume record (NVR) for the object being    
                    recataloged was not found on the first volume serial  

                    number specified. The primary VVR or NVR contains the  

                    data set information needed to recatalog the object.  

  
                    Possible causes of this error are:  
  
                    o  No VVR exists.  
  
                    o  A VVR exists, but it points to another catalog.    

  
                    o  Parameters were not specified as they were when    

                        the cluster was originally defined. The parameters 

                        are NAME, INDEXED, LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED,  

                        and VOLUMES.  
              Programmer Response: 

              If no VVR exists, then re-issue the DEFINE command, 
              without the RECATALOG parameter, for the ICF catalog. 

              If the VVR exists but points to a different catalog, 
              specify the correct catalog and re-issue the DEFINE 
              command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

              If the original values for parameters NAME, INDEXED, 
              LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED, and VOLUMES were not 
              specified, specify the original values and re-issue 
              the DEFINE command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

Have you tried adding LINEAR?  Or is it the correct catalog (I tend to not 
include a catalog)?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

G'Day,
 
I restored a DB2 VSAM dsn (which was deleted in error) on to the volume 
which it used to reside on.  The restore was from a full volume dump.  All 
went well however it didn't catalog the CLUSTER  COMPONENT:
 
2012.241 17:51:51 EXECUTION 
BEGINS                                            
THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
RELEASE 13 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0 ON 2012.231 
05:41:01                          
DATA SET CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 
COMPONENT          
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): 
SMP116    
THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS FOR CLUSTER 
VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ON SMP116 MAY HAVE TO BE 
CATALOGED IN CATALOG 
CHATT.UCAT                                              
 COMPONENT 
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001                          
THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED FROM VOLUME 
SMP116        
 VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001    
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0
2012.241 17:52:50 EXECUTION 
ENDS                                              
2012.241 17:52:50 TASK COMPLETED WITH RETURN CODE 
                                                            
 
I tried the following to catalog the component:
                                                                      
    DEFINE CL (NAME(VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001)  -      
    VOLUMES(SMP116)  -                                                
    RCTLG)        -                                                  
    CATALOG('CHATT.UCAT')                                            
IDC3014I CATALOG ERROR

Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

2012-08-28 Thread Lizette Koehler

And you should use the CLUSTER not the Data component.  Sorry I missed that 
when I pasted your statements.

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

I usually do not use the CATALOG parm, but since this is your job, here is 
what I might code: 


DEFINE CL (NAME(VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001)  -  
VOLUMES(SMP116)  -  
 LINEAR-   
 RCTLG) -  
 CATALOG('CHATT.UCAT')   



Lizette

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From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

Lizette,
 
Would you have an example using LINEAR?  



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

John,

I have not done this but I would catalog the DB2 Cluster Name with LINEAR in 
the IDCAMS control cards.

Lizette

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The cluster and the data component have a different names.  Do I need to 
recatalog the cluster too? 




From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The most common problem with VSAM is failing to specify the proper value 
for indexed/nonindexed. It must match the actual cluster. 

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:  Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To:    IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:  08/28/2012 04:01 PM
Subject:        Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS
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Did you look up the IDC3009I message

6                  Explanation: Either the primary VSAM volume record    

                    (VVR) points to another catalog, or the primary VVR or 

                    non-VSAM volume record (NVR) for the object being    
                    recataloged was not found on the first volume serial  

                    number specified. The primary VVR or NVR contains the  

                    data set information needed to recatalog the object.  

  
                    Possible causes of this error are:  
  
                    o  No VVR exists.  
  
                    o  A VVR exists, but it points to another catalog.    

  
                    o  Parameters were not specified as they were when    

                        the cluster was originally defined. The parameters 

                        are NAME, INDEXED, LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED,  

                        and VOLUMES.  
              Programmer Response: 

              If no VVR exists, then re-issue the DEFINE command, 
              without the RECATALOG parameter, for the ICF catalog. 

              If the VVR exists but points to a different catalog, 
              specify the correct catalog and re-issue the DEFINE 
              command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

              If the original values for parameters NAME, INDEXED, 
              LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED, and VOLUMES were not 
              specified, specify the original values and re-issue 
              the DEFINE command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

Have you tried adding LINEAR?  Or is it the correct catalog (I tend to not 
include a catalog)?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

G'Day,
 
I restored a DB2 VSAM dsn (which was deleted in error) on to the volume 
which it used to reside on.  The restore was from a full volume dump.  All 
went well however it didn't catalog the CLUSTER  COMPONENT:
 
2012.241 17:51:51 EXECUTION 
BEGINS                                            
THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
RELEASE 13 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0 ON 2012.231 
05:41:01                          
DATA SET CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 
COMPONENT          
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): 
SMP116    
THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS FOR CLUSTER 
VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ON SMP116 MAY HAVE TO BE 
CATALOGED IN CATALOG 
CHATT.UCAT                                              
 COMPONENT 
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001

Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

Thanks Lizeete I will give it a try.




From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

And you should use the CLUSTER not the Data component.  Sorry I missed that 
when I pasted your statements.

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

I usually do not use the CATALOG parm, but since this is your job, here is 
what I might code: 


DEFINE CL (NAME(VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001)  -      
    VOLUMES(SMP116)  -  
    LINEAR    -                                              
    RCTLG)        -                                                  
    CATALOG('CHATT.UCAT')  



Lizette

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

Lizette,
 
Would you have an example using LINEAR?  



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

John,

I have not done this but I would catalog the DB2 Cluster Name with LINEAR in 
the IDCAMS control cards.

Lizette

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The cluster and the data component have a different names.  Do I need to 
recatalog the cluster too? 




From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The most common problem with VSAM is failing to specify the proper value 
for indexed/nonindexed. It must match the actual cluster. 

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:  Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To:    IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:  08/28/2012 04:01 PM
Subject:        Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



Did you look up the IDC3009I message

6                  Explanation: Either the primary VSAM volume record    

                    (VVR) points to another catalog, or the primary VVR or 

                    non-VSAM volume record (NVR) for the object being    
                    recataloged was not found on the first volume serial  

                    number specified. The primary VVR or NVR contains the  

                    data set information needed to recatalog the object.  

  
                    Possible causes of this error are:  
  
                    o  No VVR exists.  
  
                    o  A VVR exists, but it points to another catalog.    

  
                    o  Parameters were not specified as they were when    

                        the cluster was originally defined. The parameters 

                        are NAME, INDEXED, LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED,  

                        and VOLUMES.  
              Programmer Response: 

              If no VVR exists, then re-issue the DEFINE command, 
              without the RECATALOG parameter, for the ICF catalog. 

              If the VVR exists but points to a different catalog, 
              specify the correct catalog and re-issue the DEFINE 
              command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

              If the original values for parameters NAME, INDEXED, 
              LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED, and VOLUMES were not 
              specified, specify the original values and re-issue 
              the DEFINE command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

Have you tried adding LINEAR?  Or is it the correct catalog (I tend to not 
include a catalog)?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

G'Day,
 
I restored a DB2 VSAM dsn (which was deleted in error) on to the volume 
which it used to reside on.  The restore was from a full volume dump.  All 
went well however it didn't catalog the CLUSTER  COMPONENT:
 
2012.241 17:51:51 EXECUTION 
BEGINS                                            
THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
RELEASE 13 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0 ON 2012.231 
05:41:01                          
DATA SET CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 
COMPONENT          
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S): 
SMP116    
THE FOLLOWING COMPONENTS FOR

Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

Lizette,
 
You are a gem.  Your suggestion worked.  Thanks very very much.



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

And you should use the CLUSTER not the Data component.  Sorry I missed that 
when I pasted your statements.

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:48 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

I usually do not use the CATALOG parm, but since this is your job, here is 
what I might code: 


DEFINE CL (NAME(VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001)  -      
    VOLUMES(SMP116)  -  
    LINEAR    -                                              
    RCTLG)        -                                                  
    CATALOG('CHATT.UCAT')  



Lizette

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:31 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

Lizette,
 
Would you have an example using LINEAR?  



From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

John,

I have not done this but I would catalog the DB2 Cluster Name with LINEAR in 
the IDCAMS control cards.

Lizette

-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 4:18 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The cluster and the data component have a different names.  Do I need to 
recatalog the cluster too? 




From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU 
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2012 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

The most common problem with VSAM is failing to specify the proper value 
for indexed/nonindexed. It must match the actual cluster. 

.
.
JO.Skip Robinson
SCE Infrastructure Technology Services
Electric Dragon Team Paddler 
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
626-302-7535 Office
323-715-0595 Mobile
jo.skip.robin...@sce.com



From:  Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
To:    IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Date:  08/28/2012 04:01 PM
Subject:        Re: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS
Sent by:        IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU



Did you look up the IDC3009I message

6                  Explanation: Either the primary VSAM volume record    

                    (VVR) points to another catalog, or the primary VVR or 

                    non-VSAM volume record (NVR) for the object being    
                    recataloged was not found on the first volume serial  

                    number specified. The primary VVR or NVR contains the  

                    data set information needed to recatalog the object.  

  
                    Possible causes of this error are:  
  
                    o  No VVR exists.  
  
                    o  A VVR exists, but it points to another catalog.    

  
                    o  Parameters were not specified as they were when    

                        the cluster was originally defined. The parameters 

                        are NAME, INDEXED, LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED,  

                        and VOLUMES.  
              Programmer Response: 

              If no VVR exists, then re-issue the DEFINE command, 
              without the RECATALOG parameter, for the ICF catalog. 

              If the VVR exists but points to a different catalog, 
              specify the correct catalog and re-issue the DEFINE 
              command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

              If the original values for parameters NAME, INDEXED, 
              LINEAR, NONINDEXED, NUMBERED, and VOLUMES were not 
              specified, specify the original values and re-issue 
              the DEFINE command with the RECATALOG parameter. 

Have you tried adding LINEAR?  Or is it the correct catalog (I tend to not 
include a catalog)?

Lizette


-Original Message-
From: John Dawes jhn_da...@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Aug 28, 2012 3:54 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: HELP - RECATALOGING VSAM COMPONENTS

G'Day,
 
I restored a DB2 VSAM dsn (which was deleted in error) on to the volume 
which it used to reside on.  The restore was from a full volume dump.  All 
went well however it didn't catalog the CLUSTER  COMPONENT:
 
2012.241 17:51:51 EXECUTION 
BEGINS                                            
THE INPUT DUMP DATA SET BEING PROCESSED IS IN FULL VOLUME FORMAT AND WAS 
CREATED BY DFSMSDSS VERSION 1
RELEASE 13 MODIFICATION LEVEL 0 ON 2012.231 
05:41:01                          
DATA SET CLUSTER VDB2U.DSNDBC.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 
COMPONENT          
VDB2U.DSNDBD.PENDBD10.PENTS113.I0001.A001 ALLOCATED, ON VOLUME(S):

TSO LOGON Reconnect confirmation.

In the TSO graphic LOGON panel, I can either S Reconnect, in which
it preempts any active session, or I can not select Reconnect, in
which case it rejects the LOGON if another session is active.

Either of these behaviors is extreme.  If there's another session,
I'd like it to prompt me:

Another session is active.  R(econnect) or C(ancel)?

Is there any way to achieve this?  Bonus points if it were to tell
me if the active session has a compatible terminal type, and if not
which, since if I reconnect to ISPF with an incompatible terminal
type chaos ensues.  Dumb ISPF.

-- gil

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Updated z/Architecture Principles of Operation

2012-08-28 Thread John P. Baker

Has any information been forthcoming in respect to when an updated
z/Architecture Principles of Operation will be made available?

 

John P. Baker


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Re: The IBM zEnterprise EC12 announcment

2012-08-28 Thread Roger W. Suhr

  Using LINUX or ZOS?

Both + z/VM

Roger

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On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote:

  On 8/28/2012 at 01:31 PM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com wrote:
  Why IBM manufacture new MF?

 Because customers will buy them.

  OK.


  Any new customers using MF or any increasing MF processing?

 According to IBM, a total of 142-150 new customers since 2009.  
 Workload
 growth rate of existing customers is averaging around 30% per year.

  Using LINUX or ZOS?


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Re: Space Allocation In Bytes

2012-08-28 Thread Roger W. Suhr

:: Well, it depends on the point of view.
:: Datasets by definition are for keeping data, not to make GRS ENQ, not

Everything depends on the point of view!

Roger

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:: -Original Message-
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:: Behalf Of R.S.
:: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:17 AM
:: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
:: Subject: Re: Space Allocation In Bytes
::
:: W dniu 2012-08-28 17:59, Roger W. Suhr pisze:
::  No, it's not illogical.  We use Format 1 DSCB entries as model DSCB
:: for
::  GDG's and other things.  No data space use is needed for that, so we
::  allocate TRK=0.  No problem there!
::
:: Well, it depends on the point of view.
:: Datasets by definition are for keeping data, not to make GRS ENQ, not
:: to be DSCB model (BTW: haven't heard anyone about SMS? DATACLASS or even
:: LIKE?). Zero-space dataset is like PDS with zero directory. Possible to
:: create, but not usable as intended.

Do you extend this narrow definition of intention to include a PDS where all
the data is kept in the directory and the members are all empty?  This
technique has probably been around as long as model DSCBs.

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Re: Does IDCAMS really do that?

2012-08-28 Thread Roger W. Suhr

20.2.13 Delete a Member of a Partitioned (Non-VSAM) Data Set in a Catalog: 
Example 13
??  ...
??  DELETE -
 EXAMPLE.NONVSAM2 -
 PURGE -
 CATALOG(USERCAT4)

The [second] DELETE command deletes all remaining members and then
the partitioned non-VSAM data set, EXAMPLE.NONVSAM2, itself...

Haha, the truth is, this will delete the whole dataset (PDS or not) -- Gone -- 
No need to delete members!

Roger


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Subject: Does IDCAMS really do that?

In:

Title: z/OS V1R12.0 DFSMS AMS for Catalogs Document Number: SC26-7394-11

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i290/20.2.13

I read:

20.2.13 Delete a Member of a Partitioned (Non-VSAM) Data Set in a Catalog: 
Example 13
  ...
  DELETE -
 EXAMPLE.NONVSAM2 -
 PURGE -
 CATALOG(USERCAT4)

The [second] DELETE command deletes all remaining members and then
the partitioned non-VSAM data set, EXAMPLE.NONVSAM2, itself...

That seems terribly wasteful to me.  Why delete all the members first?
Wouldn't it suffice to delete the partitioned non-VSAM data set [] itself.
The members won't be there after that, will they?  Ghosts?  Who you gonna call?

-- gil

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Re: TSO LOGON Reconnect confirmation.