On 2/18/2014 1:59 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
... The cache
and other such programmer-inaccessible machinery are devices for
optimizing and in particular speeding up the code that programmers
write or translators generate.
Their characteristics, mostly but not entirely undocumented, must be
Ed Jaffe opines:
Of course, Fugget about it is expected from IBM, but there are
software vendors making a comfortable living helping their customers
save serious cash by minimizing their monthly peak R4HAs. Some of them
spread out batch workload; some of them raise, lower, and move LPAR caps
To amplify a part of what you said @Tim Sipples a goodly part of MY case
load is in support of my Software Group VP Ray Jones in helping z/OS
customers manage their usage and hence part of their software bill. Others
in IBM have complementary roles. And some of you here have definitely been
Most of what Timothy Sipples says is fair controversial comment on
Edward Jaffe's post. His use of the verb 'opines' is not. As far
back as the Alexandrian rhetoricians money collected for my worthy
cause has gone into a 'war chest' and that collected to advance your
despicable ends has instead
Obviously if the loop was that tiny that would be a solution.
But the loop is larger and cannot spare a register.
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 07:18:06 -0600 Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com
wrote:
:Then optimize with
:L Rx,SUM or XR Rx,Rx
:loop
: A Rx,CURRENT
:endloop
:ST Rx,SUM.
:
:On Tue, Feb 18,
Greg,
Yes, there are 3 volumes in that pool - mod 9. There are about 21,000
cylinders available.
On Tue, 2/18/14, Greg Shirey wgshi...@benekeith.com wrote:
Subject: Re: IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 48 - REASON CODE IS
IGG0CLAT-80
To:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In
of1dbe6dec.23eaa84d-on85257c83.0046f9a1-85257c83.0047a...@us.ibm.com,
on 02/18/2014
at 08:02 AM, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com said:
So it's probably less about optimizing existing code
I re-ran the DEFINE again because the output was purged. Below is the SYSIN
and the error message :
DEFINE CLUSTER ( -
NAME(CICSALL.APPLIC.PROD.ZWA6) -
DATACLAS(CICSALL) -
STORCLAS(CICSALL) -
Tom,
I checked the STORCLASS ROUTINE and it doesn't. Below are excerpts of the ACS
routine:
FILTLIST CICSALL INCLUDE(CICSALL.**)
WHEN (DSN EQ CICSALL) DO
SET STORCLAS = 'CICSALL'
EXIT CODE(0)
END
Lizette,
I tested all the ACS rules before I moved it to Prod. I can allocate dsns via
ISPF 3.2 if I do not specify the VOLSER. I only encounter problems when I code
the volsers.
On Tue, 2/18/14, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 05:40:10 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Marketing people, those of both IBM and
its competitors, do of course try to put the best possible face on the
characteristics of their products; and it would be naif to expect them
to behave differently.
tis a pity some of them choose to
I think Tom is onto something. Seems like there is something in your ACS
routines that if you code VOLSER, then it doesn't do the rest. Check the ACS
routines again for what occurs with VOLSER, or by chance are there certain
privileges granted when your ID does thing? I know in ours there
John Gilmore wrote:
snip
Locality of reference was always a good notion, and now it is
a crucially important one.
snip
I would like to ask some additional questions in this context:
How precise are the measures provided by TIMEUSED?
Do these measures take into account the delays caused by cache
In
CAE1XxDEsu++wH6S_treF6-stF+bMfis=nKeT_cjTAgvup=Ey=q...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/18/2014
at 09:52 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Gerhard:
You have caricatured/radically misrepresented what I wrote in a
fashion that I regard as offensive, disreputable, and unseriös.
PKB.
--
Lizette,
Here is the DATACLAS Construct :
Command ===
CDS Name . . . : SYS2.SMS.SCDS
Data Class Name :
I checked to see if there is the GUARANTEED SPACE for this DSN and my user
however there is none.
On Wed, 2/19/14, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:
Subject: Re: IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 48 - REASON CODE IS
IGG0CLAT-80
To:
Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much more available
than storage [1] was 50 years ago, why not be really extravagant and use one
whole byte per store? If the byte contains 0, then the store number is not
valid, or something like that, and if the byte contains
This is a sample of our code to allow special people or certain overrides to
be honored by SMS. Do you have any checking for VOLSER? Like when a VOLSER
is specified to quit doing SMS assignments?
/*/
/* ALLOW SPECIAL USERS
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.comwrote:
At 17:42 -0500 on 02/18/2014, Gerhard Postpischil wrote about Re:
assembler:
You seem to be deliberately confounding the issue. There is no efficient
way of testing the validity of a bit number using only bytes.
David,
I'll take a second look. When I checked earlier I didn't notice anything.
Thanks.
On Wed, 2/19/14, Jousma, David david.jou...@53.com wrote:
Subject: Re: IDC3009I ** VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 48 - REASON CODE IS
IGG0CLAT-80
To:
John McKown wrote:
So why not a test bit instruction, instead of needing to generate a bit
mask from the bit number, then do something like an EX of an NI or some
such (as I'm sure many have seen and done). This could be a simple RX format
instruction. The register would contain the bit
On 2/18/2014 10:30 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
at 09:52 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com said:
Gerhard:
You have caricatured/radically misrepresented what I wrote in a
fashion that I regard as offensive, disreputable, and unseriös.
PKB.
I'm still waiting on his repeated
I am going to throw my 2cents worth in here.
Since you are already using XMIT and RECEIVE and the 3270 emulator file
transfer, let's stick with them and not make anything more confusing, because,
YES, you can do all those fancy things like TERSE and FTP, but those are not
always an option and
On 2/19/2014 8:20 AM, John McKown wrote:
Going a bit OT on this, but this talk about bits - the testing and setting
thereof, makes me curious about why IBM doesn't simplify it a bit (pun
intended).
I think we have way to many instructions already g
I have a subroutine to maintain a bit table,
Arthur,
In my experience the TIMEUSED macro is useful chiefly for timing the
CP usage of entire routines, which may of course be short ones, not
individual instructions.
Care is required in using it. The two successive TIMEUSED macros
employed to obtain a difference/measurement should be so
John,
When I worked VSE many moons ago , we build a buffer area between the end of
the program and end of the partition, then build a bitmap to reference it. Like
the old f.rt I am I didn't save the code..but I like your idea..
Scott ford
www.identityforge.com
from my IPAD
On Feb 19,
..want to trade
On 2/19/2014 7:49 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
John McKown wrote:
So why not a test bit instruction, instead of needing to generate a bit mask from the
bit number, then do something like an EX of an NI or some such (as I'm sure many have seen and
done). This
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
Careful. In Canada the first four digits identify the issuer.
Ooh, do tell - did some Googling but didn't find this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Insurance_Number talks about the first
digit being significant, however.
This still proves the point I believe you were
On 2014-02-19, at 01:22, Hunkeler, Peter wrote:
I would TRS PACK the XMIT file, FTP it to target, then TRS UNPACK the
file, and receive.
Why?
Because of the size of the XMTI file? Apart from that it doesn't help much
since also the tersed file needs to be copied to the target system
Willie,
It looks good. So my next question is why are you coding a VOLSER when you
want SMS to manage it?
For SMS Management I rarely code a VOLSER. Or if I do, the users use VOL(*)
rather than a specific volser.
I agree with the others. Check you ACS code for either USER filtlist or
VOLSER
I would also use ISMF TEST function and code the VOLSER and see what
happens.
I would think your TEST should have issues if you code the VOLSER in the
TEST Panel. If it is not stopped in the ISMF TEST function, I would open a
case to IBM to find out why.
Lizette
-Original Message-
Because of the size of the XMTI file? Apart from that it doesn't help much
since also the tersed file needs to be copied to the target system where it
must be received into an FB1024 dataset.
A valid concern, but no help and perhaps a distraction when the
OP was struggling with data
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:51:33 +, DASDBILL2 wrote:
Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much more available
than storage [1] was 50 years ago, why not be really extravagant and use one
whole byte per store? If the byte contains 0, then the store number is not
valid, or
From: John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 7:20:20 AM
Subject: Re: assembler
They have done some, such as with Find LeftMost One and
Population Count (could somebody explain to me what this might really be
used for?).
John McKown wrote
Population Count (could somebody explain to me what this might really
be used for?).
I find it useful for processing large assembled bit maps. An example
is what I call a Marked Days Table. Such an MDT is really a bit map
having one bit for each day in some unbroken sequence
Ah, the never-ending trade-off between cost of developing, debugging, and
ongoing maintenance of the code by other non-specialized people (simple vs.
elegant code) and the expense at execution time (how many bazillion times per
second does the code generate poor locality of reference access
On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:39:42 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
at 01:47 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
Indeed this is the way conditional execution and branching works (and
has always worked) in channel programs.
No. Every generation believes that it invented sex, ...
dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes:
Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much more
available than storage [1] was 50 years ago, why not be
really extravagant and use one whole byte per store? If the byte
contains 0, then the store number is not valid, or something
You're right. I had forgotten about the S/360 model 67. Most of the 360s in
production were not model 67s, however. Certainly all the 360s which I knew
anything about were non-virtual 360s. The first virtual storage-capable
processor I ever saw and touched was in 1974 running SVS.
So what
Does that snippet of STORCLAS code actually execute? Could some earlier
code in the routine bypass it (e.g., if a volser is specified, set STORCLAS
to null and exit)?
:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:: Behalf Of willie
Doesn't this convince you that your ACS routines do something different when
a volser is specified? It seems your ACS routines need further analysis.
:: -Original Message-
:: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
:: Behalf Of willie bunter
:: Sent:
On 19 February 2014 11:12, DASDBILL2 dasdbi...@comcast.net wrote:
So what was the correct term for non-virtual storage way back then for non-67
models of the S/360? Storage? Real storage? V=R storage? The terms I
heard most frequently included the word core.
In my circles the term core
On 2/19/2014 9:29 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
In my circles the term core survived for quite a long time after the
introduction of the first 370 models with non magnetic-core storage
(the 158 and 168, followed closely by the lower end 138, 148 and so
on). And amusingly the UNIX people still use core
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes:
In my circles the term core survived for quite a long time after the
introduction of the first 370 models with non magnetic-core storage
(the 158 and 168, followed closely by the lower end 138, 148 and so
on). And amusingly the UNIX people still use core
This chart has helped me:
http://xkcd.com/1205/
Regards,
Greg Shirey
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On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:29:42 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote:
In my circles the term core survived for quite a long time after the
introduction of the first 370 models with non magnetic-core storage
Third-party semiconductor memory was available for 360 models by the mid 1970s.
At the university
This is exactly why every EXIT statement in my routines are matched with a
WRITE statement :
SELECT (STORCLAS)
.
.
.
WHEN ('SCCICS')
DO
SET STORGRP = 'SGCICS'
WRITE 'SGSC070 ' DSN ' ' STORCLAS ' ' STORGRP
EXIT
END
.
The string SGSC070 identifies 1 and only 1 Exit. I know
Hi everyone,
I would like to know if there is a way to enforce subparameters that are not
originally mandatory in a MVS command.
I know I could probably use a Console package like AutoOperator to do that, but
I don’t intend to be tied up to an ISV
product because of it.
Are there any exit that
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
Hi everyone,
I would like to know if there is a way to enforce subparameters that are not
originally mandatory in a
MVS command.
I know I could probably use a Console package like
From a modern perspective the single-level store in FS would've meant at
least 128-bit addressing, perhaps 256, by now. And there'd be consequences
to that. :-)
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
zChampion, Principal Systems Investigator,
Worldwide Banking Center of Excellence, IBM
John,
Great.
Thanks.
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On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.comwrote:
From a modern perspective the single-level store in FS would've meant at
least 128-bit addressing, perhaps 256, by now. And there'd be consequences
to that. :-)
Cheers, Martin
Martin Packer,
Look at the current
On 18 February 2014 18:39, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
on 02/18/2014 at 01:47 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said:
Indeed this is the way conditional execution and branching works (and
has always worked) in channel programs.
No.
No what?
Every generation
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 19:24:06 +, Martin Packer wrote:
From a modern perspective the single-level store in FS would've meant at
least 128-bit addressing, perhaps 256, by now. And there'd be consequences
to that. :-)
I'll grant you that there might be some shops that will have to deal with 16
On Feb 19, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote:
I'll grant you that there might be some shops that will have to deal with 16
million terabytes before too long. That is what 64 bits will address. Is
anyone there yet? It will be a long time before 128 bits is not
Greetings,
We are trying to assist customer who wishes to run binary, as is printer
ready data out to printers using the IOMOD program of Distribution Control
System. As is usual in these cases customer has no doc available..
Anyone out there know where we can get some information on IOMOD - a
I have one work task. Use to do it about twice a week, because that
was all the typing I could stand. So I wrote an Access DB to hold the
info, and a script to read the files from the various servers that
needed to be checked. Now I can double click on all the servers in 5
hours every day, and
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes:
Look at the current System i. It really looks a lot like what has been
discussed here. It has, theoretically, a 128 bit virtual addresses.
Everything is an object. It has the single level storage so there aren't
really any disk files as such.
Curtis G Pew wrote:
begin extract
I think one of the folks involved in Solaris zfs (not to be confused
with OMVS zFS) calculated that the entropy generated by a full 128-bit
address space would result in enough heat to boil all the oceans on
earth. So I believe 128 bits is enough for a long time.
On Feb 19, 2014, at 4:29 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
and I am puzzled. Is this entropy the entropy of thermodynamics or
information theory? The quantity having the dimensions J/K, Joules
per Kelvin?
In what sense is entropy ever 'generated'?
Or is this perhaps a
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 17:29:17 -0500, John Gilmore wrote:
Curtis G Pew wrote:
begin extract
I think one of the folks involved in Solaris zfs (not to be confused
with OMVS zFS) calculated that the entropy generated by a full 128-bit
address space would result in enough heat to boil all the oceans
Can anyone tell me how the BSAM POINT macro works for tape.
Is there a device command that will just skip say 1000 blocks with only
one device end returned and with no data transfer over the channel (what
I really hope happens)? Or does it just READ 1000 blocks without
placing them in memory?
Does it? 'Population' presumably means full physical realization. As
I have already pointed out, this has not been achieved even for 64-bit
addresses. Moreover, it is not likely to be achieved for them anytime
soon, but AMODE(64) does anyway have its uses. The notional equations
feasibility
You should look here:
Data Management Macro Instructions
z/OS V1R10.0-V1R11.0 DFSMS Introduction
SC26-7397-03
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:56 AM, David Speake david.spe...@bcbssc.comwrote:
Can anyone tell me how the BSAM POINT macro works for tape.
Is there a device command that will just
Caveat: I get the daily digest so responses are in the Pioneer 10 grouping...
Willie: as mentioned by others, all SMS information must be generated by the
ACS routines since you have specified none. It would appear that an 'extended'
DataClas *is* being assigned otherwise you'd get a
Duh,
The Introduction manual was not totally helpful, however it forced
(pointed) me back into
SC26-7408-08 DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets where I had been also
unsuccessfully.
Double Duh
The format of the CNTRL macro is:
[label] CNTRL dcb address
{,SS,{1|2}}
{,SP,{1|2|3}}
john.archie.mck...@gmail.com (John McKown) writes:
Look at the current System i. It really looks a lot like what has been
discussed here. It has, theoretically, a 128 bit virtual addresses.
Everything is an object. It has the single level storage so there aren't
really any disk files as such.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#62 Optimization, CPU time, and related
issues
aka the internal operation of the machine ... and the execution elements
actually being managed ... are becoming less less directly related to
the external instruction architecture.
for instance, risk
dasdbi...@comcast.net (DASDBILL2) writes:
Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much more
available than storage [1] was 50 years ago, why not be
really extravagant and use one whole byte per store? If the byte
contains 0, then the store number is not valid, or something
t...@harminc.net (Tony Harminc) writes:
In my circles the term core survived for quite a long time after the
introduction of the first 370 models with non magnetic-core storage
(the 158 and 168, followed closely by the lower end 138, 148 and so
on). And amusingly the UNIX people still use core
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014c.html#62 Optimization, CPU time, and related
issues
aka the internal operation of the machine ... and the execution elements
actually being managed ... are becoming less less directly related to
the external instruction architecture.
for instance, risk
On 19 Feb 2014 03:48:24 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:
In
of1dbe6dec.23eaa84d-on85257c83.0046f9a1-85257c83.0047a...@us.ibm.com,
on 02/18/2014
at 08:02 AM, Peter Relson
On 19/02/2014 4:00 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote:
On 2/18/2014 1:59 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
... The cache
and other such programmer-inaccessible machinery are devices for
optimizing and in particular speeding up the code that programmers
write or translators generate.
Their characteristics, mostly but
Hello all:
I am trying to install the fully free version of Hercules. Any help would be
appreciated!
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Which OS? Windows (which version)? Linux (which distro)? Other?
Have u gone to http://www.hercules-390.org ?
On Feb 19, 2014 9:38 PM, Cameron Seay cws...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all:
I am trying to install the fully free version of Hercules. Any help would
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If you ant an example look at CBTTAPE.ORG and look for either DITTO
or DEBE and take a look at the source.
I know it uses EXCP instead of BSAM but it should give you a flavor.
Ed
On Feb 19, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Wayne Bickerdike wrote:
You should look here:
Data Management Macro Instructions
At 08:41 -0600 on 02/19/2014, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: assembler:
On Wed, 19 Feb 2014 12:51:33 +, DASDBILL2 wrote:
Since virtual storage is now so much less expensive and so much
more available than storage [1] was 50 years ago, why not be
really extravagant and use one whole byte
David Speake wrote:
Duh,
No Duh here! Only wise persons ask questions and you received excellent replies
from the all-wise gurus. :-)
SC26-7408-08 DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets where I had been also
unsuccessfully.
That manual is a blessing. I used it to fix a defective [nameless
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