I have used this for many many years
L R9,PSATOLD-PSA -> TCB
L R9,TCBJSCB-TCB(,R9) -> JSCB
L R9,JSCBPSCB-IEZJSCB(,R9) -> PSCB
USING PSCB,R9
L R8,PSCBRLGB -> RELOGON BUFFER
L R8,RLG
Not confused. Just didn't remember the hardware correctly.
But, I do remember the complaints for 4K out of an entire HIPERSPACE.
-teD
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From: Jim Mulder
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 02:15
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Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: Re: Prefix
Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>
One of the unwritten rules, at least in my understanding: Tell who you are!
Two ways to do this: Use an email address that shows your name, or, preferably,
sign your post with your name, first name at least.
>
Very true! I tend to help people who are NOT anonymous.
From:
> With ESA it was 'absolute' zero.
> I remember because we had users complain about the unusable portion
> of a HIPERSPACE which was the PSA.
>
> -teD
You are indeed confused, teD. 3090E processors did not
have the necessary hardware to implement the
Private-Space Control(P) bit, which over
This reminds me of an ISMF problem I has last year: did you do some updates to
the dataclass definitions.
Search the archives for: Heads up: ISMF error using the EOF key.
It was solved by PTF UA77758, available in aug 2015.
Kees.
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With ESA it was 'absolute' zero.
I remember because we had users complain about the unusable portion of a
HIPERSPACE which was the PSA.
-teD
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From: Robert Hahne
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 01:36
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Subject:
In MVS/XA , with prefixing, the processors did not use absolute locations
0-4095. Rather, each
processor had its own separate PSA and its own prefix
register. When a processor
is brought on line, the real starting address of its PSA is
stored in its prefix register.
Whenever the processor uses a
To ibmmain.10.ats...@xoxy.net, and other anonymous posters
One of the unwritten rules, at least in my understanding: Tell who you are!
Two ways to do this: Use an email address that shows your name, or, preferably,
sign your post with your name, first name at least.
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Peter Hunkeler
On 25 Feb 2016 18:19:15 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:<8702884056351431.wa.fletchanz1.ibm@listserv.ua.edu>)
flet...@nz1.ibm.com (Anthony Fletcher) wrote:
Like all 'LISTS' the members are there to provide or
solicit information, and it is like a club.
I agree with much of wh
On 2/25/2016 4:54 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson wrote:
I'm getting into IPCS with no IPCSPARM DD allocated according to both ISRDDN
and LISTALC.
If you pre-allocate IPCSPARM, it will be used. If you don't, the system
parmlib concatenation will be used.
--
Edward E Jaffe
Phoenix Software Internationa
Like all 'LISTS' the members are there to provide or solicit information, and
it is like a club.
Responding to posts to a list is seldom part of a job description.
There are rules for membership of the club. They may not be written down, but
they do exist, and some have to be discovered by trial
When running a TSO program it requires a CPPL. When TSO is started by using the
TMP, a CPPL is provided, and it can be accessed.
One of the fields that is a supported programming interface is the ECT
(Environment Control Table), and it can be updated.
If a program or command is indirectly invoke
What he said!
-teD
Original Message
From: Savor, Thomas (Alpharetta)
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 19:39
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Reply To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
Subject: Re: Outsourcing Stories Good or Bad!
Vignesh,
Until you have had your job (your way of life) ripped away
To me, the most important thing that is lost in outsourcing is the friendly
call or deskside chat between a curious/puzzled application programmer and a
cooperative/knowledgeable systems staff person. In my applications career I
have always made it a particular point to be polite and friendly
I'm getting into IPCS with no IPCSPARM DD allocated according to both ISRDDN
and LISTALC. Maybe that was required for the ancient dump-management facility?
.
.
.
J.O.Skip Robinson
Southern California Edison Company
Electric Dragon Team Paddler
SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager
323-715-0595 Mobile
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Vignesh,
Until you have had your job (your way of life) ripped away from you, you cant
get upset when folks get testy.
Management loves to tell their bosses that we are going to Outsource
ITsaving boat loads of money, but of course they will get a huge bonus once
its Outsourced. Then they
On Feb 25, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
No one's forcing you to Ed. But I'm guessing you're helping around
here because you love what you do, not because you want to help
"your people" alone.
One can't learn a lot from equals, and one certainly can't learn a
lot from t
Look for vDOS. It is based on DOSBOX and I think a better 16bit emulator,
especially for something like this.
https://www.vdos.info/
Alan Field
Systems Engineer Principal
Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN
651.662.3546
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Nice! I ordered a 3.5 drive too and went through my pile of old disks
looking for anything I should try to copy once it arrives. Thanks for
the DOSBOX hint, maybe I can install my old Lemmings game disk and pick
up where I left off in 1993.
And I have a 1991 CTC SPF/2 3.5" disk which should
I received my USB 3.5 inch diskette drive today. I copied the contents
of the diskette to my SSD, and tried to execute TSPF.EXE. It didn't work
because it is a 16 bit application. Googled a little, and found DOSBOX.
Downloaded and installed DOSBOX. Executed DOSBOX, and I am able to
execute TSP
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/rfe/execute?use_case=viewRfe&CR_ID=84517
Description:
It is possible to limit both the "width" and "depth" of the ISPF editor
F(ind), C(jange) and (e)X(clude) commands, by specifying bounds and labels.
Of these two, the bounds ("width") can be set
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 15:19:59 -0600, Barry Lichtenstein wrote:
>>
>> Does SMP/E respect STRIPSEC? Does it cause no problems, e.g. with
>> RESTORE? How might it interact with the "++MOD(...) CSECT(...)"
>> argument?
>
>Can't really blame SMP/E for accumulating them, that's the binders fault. For
I have always worked for the Outsourcerer-IBM (which is different than
working for "the real" IBM), so I might have some points to bring in:
- Best scenario I've worked was for a customer that kept 1 key-person for
each area (z/OS, DB2, etc.). This person would bring historical knowledge,
technica
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:36:16 -0600 Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Oooh! Neat! Thanks. And I see:
>
> z/OS MVS Program Management: User's Guide and Reference
> SA23-1393-00
>
> STRIPSEC={PRIV|YES | NO}
> STRIPSEC=PRIV
> Specifies that unreferenced unnamed sections are to be removed.
>
> This a
I'm not going to judge anyone here - but I have always had the attitude that if
someone wants Mainframe help and I can help them - I am going to help them. I
would never have learned half of what I know after almost 30 years in IT
without others taking the time to answer a question or two (or
No one's forcing you to Ed. But I'm guessing you're helping around here because
you love what you do, not because you want to help "your people" alone.
One can't learn a lot from equals, and one certainly can't learn a lot from
those who are (for the lack of a more sensitive phrase) below them.
S
On Feb 25, 2016, at 12:54 PM, Sankaranarayanan, Vignesh wrote:
Some thoughts from someone on the other side.
What's the point of saying "Oh, I'm an outsourced nobody." in a
post where one is asking for help. So you may choose to not answer
or sit on your high horse and ridicule their incomp
Whatever outsourcer is selected - have your SLA be as detailed as possible and
include major penalties for non-compliance ...
A long long time ago in a data center far far away ... I was consulting to a
outsourcing firm - they had control of a LARGE datacenter - at some point
something happened
And keep in mind that what is in your TARGET zone is in no way (hopefully) tied
to your runtime environment
In the past - I have used different solutions for different products
DB2 has a utility command MEPL to provide this information
For other products I use AMBLIST with LISTIDR can return mod
Where’s the 'like' button?
:-)
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Lizette,
I've see the same type of problem with a VSAM file in our scheduler as well.
It can be open to people looking at job history and thus, we have problems
reloading it.
We received an IEC161I message to SYSLOG - so, I wrote some automation to take
the dataset name from the error message
> > What are the risks of giving [IPCS] access to developers?
>
> Mostly, you risk them learning and understanding more about our platform
> -- and post-mortem debugging -- than they did previously.
>
> IIRC, IPCS requires READ access to parmlib. If that's an issue, I
> believe it might be possib
Some thoughts from someone on the other side.
What's the point of saying "Oh, I'm an outsourced nobody." in a post where one
is asking for help. So you may choose to not answer or sit on your high horse
and ridicule their incompetence when they're struggling?
If you guys (actual mainframe folk w
Hmm, thanks for that. It looks like the EA value was NO instead of YES.
I'll have to figure out how that happened.
Greg
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Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:21 AM
To:
Tom Marchant wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:25:56 -0500, John Eells wrote:
Anyone know why I get this trying to follow the link?
"Sorry, you are not authorized to search the archives of the
IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list from the email address (ee...@us.ibm.com) you
entered on the login screen."
John
Additional memory was available from third party vendors. At Cornell in
the early 1970s, the 360/65(?) had 1M. I don't recall if that was the
total or the additional memory.
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Hobart Spitz wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Mike Schwab
> wrote:
>
>>
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Mike Schwab
wrote:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_700/7000_series
> Basically, the IBM 7xx and 7xxx had 4 branches in the family tree.
> Each incompatible with the other. The IBM 360 was a common design to
> satisfy all customers with one product. Businesse
Check for this in your data class
DATA CLASS DISPLAY Page 2 of 5
CDS Name . . . . . : ACTIVE
Data Class Name . . : DIRECT
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 10:25:56 -0500, John Eells wrote:
>Anyone know why I get this trying to follow the link?
>
>"Sorry, you are not authorized to search the archives of the
>IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list from the email address (ee...@us.ibm.com) you
>entered on the login screen."
>
Thanks, John, for you
Jake,
Are you asking how to know what level of service is on particular product? If
so, you will need to find out how each vendor handles that. For IBM - RSU, for
CA CARS, and so on. And then there are those cases where you want to know on
specific module/src. Again, ask your vendor.
Then
Did you check to see if the file is over 4GB in size? And if it is, does it
have EA/EF specified?
Do a LISTC ALL and look at the options and HIURBA and HIARBA
Lizette
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Greg Shir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_700/7000_series
Basically, the IBM 7xx and 7xxx had 4 branches in the family tree.
Each incompatible with the other. The IBM 360 was a common design to
satisfy all customers with one product. Businesses go the decimal
instructions, science labs got the floating po
Tom Marchant wrote:
>John Eells wrote:
>>Anyone know why I get this trying to follow the link?
>>"Sorry, you are not authorized to search the archives of the
>>IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list from the email address (ee...@us.ibm.com) you entered
>>on the login screen."
>John, IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES is a dif
John Mattson wrote:
>Last couple of days I have noticed some occurrences of a subject being listed
>in the Topics of the day, but not found in the body. Is there a problem?
>Anyone else getting this?
Not me, but there are 3 formats of digest e-mails:
Digest (traditional)
Digest (MIME format)
Last couple of days I have noticed some occurrences of a subject being
listed in the Topics of the day, but not found in the body. Is there a
problem? Anyone else getting this?
IBM-MAIN Digest - 23 Feb 2016 to 24 Feb 2016 (#2016-55)
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Topics
We upgraded to z/OS 2.1 on the 13th and all seemed well until this morning when
several jobs were trying to write to a VSAM file and received this message:
IEC070I 034(004)-220,GSFAQ200,GS200060GS200,VTSREG4,4621,PROD33,
IEC070I SPP.ALL.SP013V,SPP.ALL.SP013V.DATA,CATALOG.x.xxx
The message
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 21:05:02 +0530, Jake Anderson wrote:
>Is there a way to determine the GEN level from a product CSI ?
GEN level? what do you mean by that?
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>Anyone know why I get this trying to follow the link?
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>entered on the login screen."
John, IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 07:39:30 +0100, Peter Hunkeler wrote:
>The 8 KiB area at absolute 0 is the place where the hardware writes
>status information as result of performing the "Store Status" operation.
Among other things. Those Assigned Storage Locations are defined by
the architecture. Other ar
Peter Hunkler:
What I'm about to say does not contradict Peter Relson's post
clarifying things relative to MVS -> z/OS.
Unless IBM has done some interesting magic, the c-store of a
z/Architecture box is "owned" by the Hypervisor, in this case
PR/SM. There are no bare metal SCPs today because
Hi
Is there a way to determine the GEN level from a product CSI ?
Jake
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Anyone know why I get this trying to follow the link?
"Sorry, you are not authorized to search the archives of the
IBM-MAIN-ARCHIVES list from the email address (ee...@us.ibm.com) you
entered on the login screen."
I used to be able to look in the archives...
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Wed, 24
Gil wrote on a item and gave the web interface URL.
I tried it and for after a lot of shenanigans I got this message:
Confirmation Sent
Your password registration request has been accepted. For your
protection, the password will not be activated just yet (anyone could
have completed this fo
Thanks Peter. I resolved it by using &SYSOSLVL.
Since &OSLEVEL isn't in my IEASYMxx I think it is being defined during the
startup of some ISV software.
Alan Field
Systems Engineer Principal
Blue Cross Blue Shield of MN
651.662.3546
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On 2016-02-25 09:34, Ed Jaffe wrote:
I brought this up on IBM-MAIN many years ago after noticing several
system traces, from large customers, with less than one screen's worth
of good trace data. At that time, the maximum trace table size was 999K
and I recommended setting that size (if you could
I brought this up on IBM-MAIN many years ago after noticing several
system traces, from large customers, with less than one screen's worth
of good trace data. At that time, the maximum trace table size was 999K
and I recommended setting that size (if you could afford the real
memory). 1M is now
Lizette Koehler wrote:
>I stumbled across this. It is photos of data centers that do not match the
>old concrete concept of a DC. Some of these are actually incredible
>repurposed buildings (like cathedrals).
Interesting! Thanks for sharing these nice eye-candies.
As a bonus, I followed so
>In what way do they say PSA is a common area of every address space when
>there is a unique PSA for every processor ?
"common area for every address space" has nothing to do with "processor".
It says that no matter what address space you are in you can access fields
in the PSA. And that is true
I stumbled across this. It is photos of data centers that do not match the old
concrete concept of a DC. Some of these are actually incredible repurposed
buildings (like cathedrals). I found some of the ways companies (like Google)
enhanced their employees experience quite unusual at times.
htt
>Did it really say "HAS VOLUME ID DOESNT NOT MATCH WITH CATALOG"?
The answer better be "no". That part of the message text is:
HAS A VOLUME ID THAT DOES NOT MATCH CATALOG
>It might not even say CSV540E.
Due to customer request, it was changed from CSV540I to CSV540E in z/OS
2.1.
Peter Relson
z/
Is there really anything in PARMLIB that cannot be found in unprotected CSA?
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:16:57 -0600 Ed Gould wrote:
:>Binyamin:
:>
:>I agree but to a specific point disagree.
:>
:>I have been in several shops where read access was given to
:>SYS1.PARMLIB . Every one of those shops
>There should be no risks at all to allowing application developers to
>use IPCS.
This is surely true.
Applications may take SYSMDUMPs for example. If you want people to be able
to debug their applications, they will need to be able to use dump reading
tools to read their dumps. And many thing
In all symbol substitution situations you need to start by asking "what is
the value of the symbol?", in this case, "what is the value of &OSLEVEL?".
Since z/OS does not create such a symbol, then if you don't have it in
your IEASYMxx then it's very unlikely that it's available for usage during
The 360-mod 40 in the Field Engineering Education Center in Poughkeepsie
had 64K in 1968. We were using it to train PSRs for OS/360.
Mike Myers
Mentor Services Corporation
On 02/24/2016 10:34 PM, Lizette Koehler wrote:
I was trolling for information on what the 360 indicated in the System/360
Fantastic thank you.
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 3:36 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote:
>
> Yes, take a look here for source code (with more to come, including as I
> understand it more details on building on z):
>
> https://github.com/IBM-Blockchain
> https://github.com/openblockchain
>
> Although optio
Yes, take a look here for source code (with more to come, including as I
understand it more details on building on z):
https://github.com/IBM-Blockchain
https://github.com/openblockchain
Although optional, IBM would very much like to stay in touch with those
working with Blockchain on z. Please v
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