Thank you Peter Relson. If the operating systems reuses WEBs
systematically, the rest of us should leave them strictly alone.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 6/17/12, Peter Relson rel...@us.ibm.com wrote:
I suppose anything could be considered reused if one includes
FREEMAIN followed
environment and language he is using so
that we can tell him how, specifically, to solve his problem. Since
he probably has a PC he could of course use the Windows calculator.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 6/21/12, Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
Under your Linux
have meant what you
think he meant.
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Today, Saturday, is Turing's centenary; and it would be shameful to
let it go unrecorded on IBM-MAIN.
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of spelling things phonetically highly problematic. It leads
to abominations like His curiosity was peaked and 'She has a 24-inch
waste!
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On 7/2/12, Bill Fairchild bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
As a non-Australian but ecumenical Anglophile, I feel
think,
to reintroduce them. Moreover, there is a need for MVPs (Maintenance
Verification Procedures) too.
If they were always available sysprogs could properly be given the
responsibility for using them and exami ng their outputs.
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On 7/2/12, John Blythe Reid
things work using this kind of knowledge. Moreover, I am
not sure I know how to communicate/teach these skills outside of
essentially one-on-one, apprenticeship situations.
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On 7/2/12, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
John,
I don't know what
that the American linguists' cult of usage, which
legitimates, even sanctifies, anything someone says or writes, must
bear part of the responsibility for the prevalence of these
constructs.
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On 7/3/12, Barry Merrill ba...@mxg.com wrote:
QATAR Airways is also without the U
and problematic. This dictum is so
elementary that lapses from it reflect inexperience and design
incompetence.
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used MIlls' term to characterize as crackpot realism.
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has the same element of surprise that would attach to a resolute
declaration that the earth is in fact an oblate spheroid, i.e., not
flat; but it was clearly necessary to make it.
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On 7/8/12, Greg Boyd bo...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Replying again to finish the last
is always positive.
Moreover, it is now possible to make them behave in COBOL exactly as
they do in assembly language.
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On 7/14/12, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:
Back in 1981, one of the first bugs I had to find/fix was a COBOL (VS?)
routine intended
-decimal (except as a transitional data
type in certain conversion operations) from COBOL routines; and doing
so will confer large performance advantages.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
Scott ford
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.net wrote
the word 'personalize'
should of course be free to use it but not perhaps to teach others to
do so. My view of Mr Hermannsfeldt's views on floating-point
arithmetic is of a piece.
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On 7/14/12, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
A little presumptuously perhaps, I shall reply for 'someone' He or
she would appear to be a soul mate.
The remark about floating-point that Mr Hermannsfeldt attributes to
Knuth are relevant to HFP and, perhaps, BFP. Their timing moots any
. (Current HLASM and PL/I
implementations support the use of these special values in effect by
name; and PL/I provides execution-time BIFs for manipulating them.)
There are [different] accessible chapters in the current PrOp that
describe both BFP and DFP. Read them!
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA
tame an
SLPL, make it do their wills, are not professional programmers in any
meaningful sense. It is not clear to me that they any longer have
useful work to do. (There was a time when one needed to be able to
program a little in order to use computers at all, but that time is
long past.)
John
reflections of control-block overflow problems in some procedural
language. These limitations can be circumvented, but the
concatenation schemes that do so are very tedious.
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generally, useful performance analysis requires years of
experience with a platform, its software, the use of appropriate
measurement software, and considerable statistical prowess. Absent
this skill set, it is easy to make a fool of oneself and all but
impossible to make useful contributions.
John
always disappointed in the attempt to do
so.
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On 7/17/12, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:43:32 -0500, Bass, Walter W wrote:
Try this ...
//* SAVE CURRENT VALUE OF MYSYM
// SET SAVESYM=MYSYM
//* SET MYSYM TO A NEW
IT managements: you are
exposing not just your company but your own jobs to grave danger.
Heads roll after each of these security-breach fiascos, and one of
them may be yours.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 7/18/12, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com wrote:
Paul Gilmartin writes
applications programmers who are
good technicians. But like all good caricature it exaggerates without
really misrepresenting.
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The Unisys 1108, a (36-bit) word machine, was originally the UNIVAC
1108 I (circa 1965) and the UNIVAC 1108 II (circa 1968); and UNIVAC
was at that time a division of Sperry Rand.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA, 01721 - USA
On 7/20/12, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
Shmuel,
Who did
facilities will make the task of making these modules reentrant much
easier.
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associated with this
practice. The binder processes its own outputs more efficiently and
rapidly than it does translator-generated object modules, which should
have only very brief, transition-state lives.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
on.
Whatever else the Internet may be, its evolution reflects a congeries
of diverse, finally irreconcilable ideologies and business interests;
and no simple dietrologia is likely to be very helpful in explaining
it.
These things said, Mr Stokes HAS been the target of too much ad
hominem criticism.
John
-standard.
In fact I see no reason to censor my vocabulary, using a small proper
subset of it notionally appropriate to conversations with an impaired
child here. That would patronize readers of my posts to no good end.
(Those who do not wish to read these posts need not do so.)
John Gilmore, Ashland
'.
Hard as it may be to do so, let's also try to avoid 'punch card',
using 'punched card' instead. The former is as objectrionable as 'ice
tea' for 'iced tea'.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 7/27/12, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Paul Gilmartin
Without laying claim to being one of the luminaries of the list, I
shall try to comply with this eminently reasonable request.
Is someone also addressing the web interface's apparently multiple
structural problems? If not, they will certainly worsen.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 7
English can be wielded with great precision; but it, and American
English in particular, often is not. The term 'ice tea' has now, for
example, largely supplanted 'iced tea' among the subliterate; etc.,
etc., ad nauseam.
When punched cards were in wide use 'punch cards' was avoided, but
those
.
There were and are circumstances in which ignoring the judgments of
such figures would be foolhardy. It is possible to stigmatize them
as élitist, but doing so does not make them inconsequential.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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Any standard logic text establishes that
o AND, inclusive OR, and NOT are together universal,
o NOR alone is universal, and
o NAND alone is universal.
Thus, in an obvious notation,
XOR(a,b) =df (a | b) (¬(a b))
What is all the pother about?
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
-documenting we should be able to dispense with the PrOp,
which all of us in fact find indispensable.
XOR is 'documented' by a simple four-row truth table, and anyone who
cannot reproduce that truth table upon demand should not be a
programmer.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
possible in COBOL too.
The rationale for this second approach if of course that most input
data are not incorrect. Some are, and they must be detected and
corrected or set aside; but it is more efficient, very much more
efficient, to deal only with bad input data than to test all of them.
John
. In the current climate a formal
procedure for recording a decision not to apply a PTF (and noting a
supporting reason code for this decision) should be in place.
Moreover, a policy that 'ages' all PTFs for, say, 60 days is at least
as simple-minded as one that applies them unthinkingly.
John
good substantive advice; and one of its merits is that it
makes the need for judgments explicit.
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704 used them, and its
implementation using 'green words' was essentially the same as the one
in use today. They were devised to treat the problem of outputting,
say, an array x(100,100) of 36-bit words, which would have been
difficult to fit into a single tape record block of the time.
John
Mike Wood wrote:
begin extract
However, be sure to see the warning in the book about the pre-reqs for
running rmm with UTC(YES) - especially about the TOD clock being GMT
and then using TIMEZONE offset to set local time
/end extract
and these things should of course be done whether or not you
a different one.
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The language Paul Gilmartin cites is certainly not felicitous. As I
have already noted, the OPs problem was, however, a different one. He
used dataclass=, a nine-character keyword parameter, in a context in
which at most eight-character ones are supported.
Now it is fair to note that the choice
As usual, OCO makes an external judgment all but impossible. We are
at the mercy of an IBM development group's not necessarily
disinterested judgment.
Would it not be possible, without breaching OCO, to provide a more
quantitative, confidence-inspiring statement than . . . there would
be
:96
RSVNONR available: 4
/Peter
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As usual, OCO makes an external
: Valid DATACLAS names - where documented?
DATACLS
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The language Paul Gilmartin cites is certainly
periodically. Millicode-based instructions are moving targets.
Relative performance can also, of course, be model-dependent.
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He and I have had different experiences with other millicoded
instructions, and I am beginning to wonder what I am doing wrong.
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Perhaps. He may, however, know something we don't know.
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On 8/16/12, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote:
I suspect Ed was pointing out that the content of the padding byte can
affect the result of an MVCL -- that is, the resulting *data*.
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:34 AM, John Gilmore
Fifty percent savings in residence time are likely to be reflections
of larger block sizes, asynchronous, overlapped I/O operations
(possible, even easy, with BSAM), or both.
Some measurements would be in order.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 8/17/12, Dana Mitchell mitchd...@gmail.com
I know of a client site where V9, v10, V11, and V12 are all in
concurrent use under z/OS 1.13. It has been unproblematic except on
the occasion of one operator error, which has not been repeated.
--jg
On 8/20/12, Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
Is anyone out there running IMS
that 'cadaver' had been an acronym: CAro DAta
VERminibus, flesh given to the worms == CADAVER.
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The 10th edition of IBM Jargon, a semi-official
what you are doing accordingly, and feel free to use the
long[er] names that will be available to you.
John Gilmore. Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 8/20/12, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@yahoo.com wrote:
Upgrades. Why do you ask?
From: Clark Morris cfmpub
' reasons.
À chacun son goût.
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On 8/22/12, Richard Sandford rsandf...@healthplan.com wrote:
Thanks, everyone, for your responses.
Backups are gone, so I believe I'll use Kurt's suggestion, which is what I
had as a Plan D, and I'll be sure.
Rich Sandford
Your bad it may be, but I cannot refrain from noting that, while I too
prefer 'script' to 'exec', even 'exec' is better than talking/writing
about 'a REXX' or REXXs'; and this subliterate usage appears to be
spreading: we have far too much of it on IBM-MAIN.
--jg
On 8/24/12, Anne Lynn Wheeler
Bob,
I'm not sure I agree.
My problem is that your view sanctions, implicltly encourages, usages
like 'an Assembler' for an assembly-language program or 'a COBOL' for
a COBOL program.
The distinction between the entity, routine or table, and the language
in which it is written is valuable,
Look at EXPAND=NO|YES
--jg
On 8/24/12, Dave Day david...@consolidated.net wrote:
On CPOOL BUILD, one specifies PCELLCT and SCELLCT to tell z/OS how
to build the pool. There doesn't appear to be any equivalent for
IARCP64 REQUEST=BUILD. No way to communicate to z/OS how many you think
the pool if there is no available cell.
,EXPAND=YES
This parameter tries expanding.
,EXPAND=NO
This parameter does not try expanding.
,TRACE=
On 8/24/2012 4:04 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
Look at EXPAND=NO|YES
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On 8/25/2012 8:03 AM, John Gilmore wrote:
I confess to some dissatisfaction with both the tone and the substance
of Mr Day's OP.
He was seeking to use a facility about which he clearly knew nothing
in detail while|whilst complaining that its syntax was not identical
to that of its [very
.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 8/26/12, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
I feel it's a language. Since it not only is interpreted but compiled. The
difference for me is language functions and calls. The difference between
exec or exec2 and rexx is pretty major to me. A lot
I was careful to use the value-byte-count attribute k'whatever'
The HLASM 'length' attribute, L'something, should have a different
name and a different attribute indicator. What it yields in
non-trivial cases is not at all what novices expect it to yield,
Regrettably, it is 10+ lustra too late
Other people's parsing machinery is, in my experience, usable only for
context-free 'languages'; and since I devise and use only
context-sensitive--yes, PL/I-like--languages, I have found that I must
build my own parsing machinery; and this is easy enough to do using
REXX.
--jg
Attempting to distinguish empty files from nul strings and the like
Ron Skorupka writes:
begin extract
Zero-space dataset is real object, consuming real resources (VTOC,
maybe catalog) with no real (as intended) use.
end extract/
but nul strings also consume resources in just this way. The PL/I
I made 'Radoslaw' into 'Ron', for which I apologize.
--jg
On 8/28/12, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote:
Attempting to distinguish empty files from nul strings and the like
Ron Skorupka writes:
begin extract
Zero-space dataset is real object, consuming real resources (VTOC,
maybe
, which at the price
of impediments to growth, make compiler writing marginally easier.
Some of the rest of us do not.
--jg
On 8/28/12, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:21:14 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
Other people's parsing machinery is, in my experience, usable
IBM should be consulted, certainly; but there is strong evidence that
this vulnerability is an ORACLE-specific one.
Code-sharing aside, vulnerabilities are implementation-specific; and
code sharing between IBM and ORACLE would be enormously interesting,
not least because of the vanishingly small
I am pleased, if that is the right word, to have my conjecture
discredited unambiguously.
I am not sure that, given its location within z/OS, [Oracle] Java 7
poses so severe a security threat there as it does in more exposed
positions elsewhere. A threat it nevertheless is.
--jg
On 8/29/12,
It is apparently very much cheaper than expanded storage, and it is
being talked about more as an alternative to pseudo-DASD for some
medium-volume uses than as slower main storage
--jg.
On 8/30/12, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote:
That was my first thought too. However, at
in COBOL for
use by non-COBOL shops? If so, a z/OS shop that purchased such a
product would incur licensing fees iff it wished [and was allowed] to
recompile that product. This whole scenario is, however, a wildly
improbable one.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
by, usually, a halfword current-length indicator.
Thus in PL/I
declare example character(254) varying ;
yields a string occupying 256 bytes, a halfword prefix followed by at
most 254 value bytes, with
0 = currentlength(example) = 254.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
If you construct an array by initializing it element by element you
get an array, one that is not nul-delimited or 'of conceptually
unlimited length', whatever that may mean.
If you construct a string by initializing a character array with a
string, you get a nul-delimited string implemented
I had thought to have answered that question. The C construct
char text character[] = 'Lincoln''s Doctor''s Dog' ;
does jobs of that sort.
--jg
On 9/4/12, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:01:37 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote:
cxx: t.c line 3:Error #144:
.
These deleterious initiatives help to perpetuate the organizations
that advance them.
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Lizette's point that IBM can change the information in a PDS directory
without notice is of course generically correct
That conceded, such changes have been infrequent for many years; and
the functional stabilization of PDS support that came about with the
introduction of PDSEs makes further such
Look in the Initialization and Tuning Guide for your z/OS release.
You need to disentangle the MAXUSER=, RSVSTRT=, and RSVNONR= values
that are specified in IEASYSxx.
--jg
On 9/6/12, Rob Scott rsc...@rocketsoftware.com wrote:
The ASVT entries include free and non-reusable entries as well as
The content of a PDS directory can of course change. How not?
My points were two: 1) that it has been a very long time since
changes in a mapping DSECT for a PDS directory block were required,
and 2) that such changes are now highly unlikely. (Neither PDSMAN
nor Endevor makes use of new or
Chris Webster's JCL will do the job, and I like its restraint. The
input BLKSIZE= is necessary and is specified. An output BLKSIZE= is
inappropriate and is not specified.
Moreover, while I have never myself encountered a PDS directory that
filled even five 3390 crypto-cylinders, reference to
, RECFM, LRECL, BLKSIZE.
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 09:56:31 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
Lizette's point that IBM can change the information in a PDS directory
without notice is of course generically correct
That conceded, such changes have been infrequent for many years; and
the functional
. (To err is human;
to persevere in it is diabolical.)
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, CPE (central processing
element).
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many such applications are
aggregated together that the mainframe comes into its own as an
alternative, a highly attractive one, to server farms.
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, and it is now so well established and widely used
that attempts to replace it or kill it off are not very likely to
succeed. Moreover, the obvious candidates to replace
'lurker'---'watcher', eavesdropper', and the like---are themselves
pejorative in one way or another.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721
Bernd,
Look at
z/OS Language Environment Vendor Interfaces, SA22-7568-nn.
where nn is currently a z/OS level number - 1, so that SA22-7568-12 is
for z/OS 1.13, . . . , SA22-7568-11 is for z/OS 1.12.
You can of course download a copy from the IBM publications center.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA
The G. Fogg portion of this REXX routine is a conversion from PL/I
to REXX, perhaps at several removes, of one of a set of generic PL/I
procedures---All of therm 1) initialize a pointer to a pointer with
x'0010' and 2) chase pointer chains anchored in the CVT---that
were written by my quondam
very
inexactly.
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
On 9/17/12, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote:
Dave,
The only IBM-resident page I ever found was this one on the VM side of their
sites:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/cmosproc.html
HTH
Peter
the rules for bit-map processing in a fundamental way. Shipping a
FLOGR macro with a product that notionally uses the FLOGR instruction
would eliminate the need, felt by some ISVs, to avoid it (and other
instructions of that ilk).
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
David,
I am aware that many ISVs ship object code. How not? It is not,
however, clear to me that all of this object code need be identical.
Indeed, I know of cases where it is not. Or again, options that
select among NCAL library modules at product-installation time can be
provided. Opinions
be construed as a
performance argument for upgrading.
--jg
On 9/18/12, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 09:57:42 -0400, John Gilmore wrote:
It could also be used by ISVs. FLOGR is not, for example available on
all of the mainframes currently in use, but its
The contents of SYSLOG are often value to mere applications
programmers and even to operators.
Energies devoted to denying access to SYSLOG would much better be
devoted to ensuring that its does not contain passwords and the like.
Security people are paid to be paranoid, and their preoccupations
Yes,
Was ist nicht erlaubt ist verboten
is a possible organizational policy. It is not one that seems to me
to have merit.
Having lived as a boy through the period when Nazi Germany all but
destroyed Europe I do not find it even minimally attractive. One
innoculation was sufficient to
of the vaguely scatological
connotations of its competitors; and 3) it is less clumsy than they.
Finally, of course: À chacun son goût!
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The PL/I macro preprocessor can generate such structure definitions.
I can say this, although I cannot ethically provide a supportive
example, because I have had private access to some of Bernd's code on
two occasions; but he should (and will) add any qualifications he
judges necessary.
The
If you mean the Eastern Arabic numerals that appear on, say,
automobile licence plates, checks/cheques, and [some] clock faces in
the Arab countries and Iran, viz.,
٠ ١ ٢ ٣ ٤ ٥ ٦ ٧ ٨ ٩
i.e., 0, 1, 2, . . . , 9, they appear exactly as they do in an
English- or French-language document.
Shmuel wrote:
begin snippet
TSO was never a separate order number. It started as a feature of OS/360 MVS.
end snippet
and he has here committed a [vulgar sense] oxymoron. OS/360 had an
MVT but no MVS.
--jg
On 9/24/12, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+...@patriot.net wrote:
In
In rereading that portion of my post that Shmuel quoted it has
occurred to me that it could be read as characterizing his 'typo' as
vulgar. That was not at all my intent.
In classical rhetoric oxymora were and are figures of speech that make
use of an apparent but in the event not substantive
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