Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[TheHangMan]

Hello David,
Thank you and the team for a wonderful years of training,
Let us all know, what you need to keep jaws-user running?

Take care,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Annette Carr
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 1:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Hi David,

In my opinion, this list is not close to have run its course.  I think that 
right now we are in a smooth sailing period with JAWS and most of the commonly 
used applications and no one is running into major issues.  Of course you have 
faced the problem with mail compatibility, so I am not sure how many users that 
has impacted.  I do think as soon as JAWS18 officially hits the streets there 
will be an increase in traffic, as well as when updates to commonly used 
products become available.  

I personally am very appreciative of the hard work and effort you and the team 
put into keeping this list up and running.  I've learned a lot, and try to pay 
it back by contributing whenever possible.  This list fills a gap that is not 
able to be filled by FS/VFO Technical Support on many levels.  Please no one 
take that as a slam to FS/VFO.

Thank you David & Team!

Annette
 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Mike B.]

Hi Bob,

Would you & Rick consider joining the Jaws-Users moderator labor union?! 
There's a fee of 25¢ every 10 years, which is refundable if, I, your 
fearless union negotiator cannot get you guys a better contract!  I do 
understand thatthe the current list owner / manager is a very shrewd 
negotiator in his own right, & a slave driver as well but, with the outpour 
of all the list members maybe, just maybe, we can soften that heart just a 
touch!  It will be hard to do, giving he looks out for the list members 
first & foremost!  Now after sounding like a true politician / union leader, 
& blowing all kinds of smoke up your pant legs with false hopes & promises 
that you both know I can't fulfill, would you still consider joining the 
Jaws-Users moderators union for the measely fee of 25¢ per decade?

I'm eagerly awaiting your replies in order to get this new union off the 
ground!

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: REGilman
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


Well I guess I had better renegotiate my benefit package!
Oh David...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Yeah, you did, but we re-subscribed you!
Now you are locked in this loop with us!

Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - 
From: "REGilman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


What, Am I still on this list?  I thought I unsubscribed years ago.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Obviously I know how to bring people out of the woodwork so to speak.

I just wanted to make sure that there was still an interest moving forward.
I kind of thought there was but it does not hurt to confirm such things.
Folks as much to my team and the fact that things have been so smooth on
here for quite some time is why we are cruzing along starting our twelfth
year next week. I don't believe it even as I type these words.

The vast majority of you actually have no idea how much has gone on in the
background with all of us over time.

It is just that we work so well together things plow on. All of us have had
medical issues and a couple of us have had shoulder surgery, rotator cuff to
be exact. Last year my wife had a new heart valve installed and I was off
the list for almost 8 weeks taking care of her. The guys did a great job
because I would have been no help at all during that time. There were days
that the only thing I did with this system was shut it off and nothing else
at all. I'm not telling you this to garner sympathy or anything like that,
rather to let you folks know that I work with the best couple of guys
available. FYI don't tell Bob I said that, his ego is already the size of
the grand canyon.

Just kidding Bob, he is really a humble guy or so I'm told.

So far as being blocked out what is really happening is that some services
are blocking messages from this domain from being delivered to their
customers and eventually Mailman removes them for bouncing messages. They
are able to post messages, it is just they can't receive which is a major
annoyance to say the least.

I'm convinced that interest still rains supreme, thank you all for
confirming that fact.


David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[REGilman]

Well I guess I had better renegotiate my benefit package!
Oh David...

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 9:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Yeah, you did, but we re-subscribed you!
Now you are locked in this loop with us!

Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - 
From: "REGilman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


What, Am I still on this list?  I thought I unsubscribed years ago.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Obviously I know how to bring people out of the woodwork so to speak.

I just wanted to make sure that there was still an interest moving forward.
I kind of thought there was but it does not hurt to confirm such things.
Folks as much to my team and the fact that things have been so smooth on
here for quite some time is why we are cruzing along starting our twelfth
year next week. I don't believe it even as I type these words.

The vast majority of you actually have no idea how much has gone on in the
background with all of us over time.

It is just that we work so well together things plow on. All of us have had
medical issues and a couple of us have had shoulder surgery, rotator cuff to
be exact. Last year my wife had a new heart valve installed and I was off
the list for almost 8 weeks taking care of her. The guys did a great job
because I would have been no help at all during that time. There were days
that the only thing I did with this system was shut it off and nothing else
at all. I'm not telling you this to garner sympathy or anything like that,
rather to let you folks know that I work with the best couple of guys
available. FYI don't tell Bob I said that, his ego is already the size of
the grand canyon.

Just kidding Bob, he is really a humble guy or so I'm told.

So far as being blocked out what is really happening is that some services
are blocking messages from this domain from being delivered to their
customers and eventually Mailman removes them for bouncing messages. They
are able to post messages, it is just they can't receive which is a major
annoyance to say the least.

I'm convinced that interest still rains supreme, thank you all for
confirming that fact.


David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.


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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

[Justin Williams]

When you select the log in link, it changes up your screen and you can find the 
log in button.  You have to hit the log in button after the log in link to find 
the user name and password.  So, use jaws fine, or insert f7  to locate the log 
in link.  Hit enter.  Then, use either b, or jaws find again to find the log in 
button.  Then, hit enter.  Use e to find your user name and password fields.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

I don't understand you!


-Original Message-
From: Justin Williams
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

Click the log in link, then click thelog in button.  Your user name and 
password should pop up then.  I tried ti with both ie and Mozilla.
Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

when I go to the coclear americas store then click on the login link a sighted 
person told me another windowpopps up which is the login and jaws cannot 
announce the window to me.  it’s like the window  is not recognized by jaws.
is there a way I can get jaws to recognize the window so I can get in to the 
store?
here is the page
http://www.cochlear.com/wps/wcm/connect/us/recipients/nucleus-6/nucleus-6-accessories
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

[Kevin]

I don't understand you!


-Original Message- 
From: Justin Williams

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

Click the log in link, then click thelog in button.  Your user name and 
password should pop up then.  I tried ti with both ie and Mozilla.

Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

when I go to the coclear americas store then click on the login link a 
sighted person told me another windowpopps up which is the login and jaws 
cannot announce the window to me.  it’s like the window  is not recognized 
by jaws.
is there a way I can get jaws to recognize the window so I can get in to the 
store?

here is the page
http://www.cochlear.com/wps/wcm/connect/us/recipients/nucleus-6/nucleus-6-accessories
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

[Justin Williams]

Click the log in link, then click thelog in button.  Your user name and 
password should pop up then.  I tried ti with both ie and Mozilla.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] coclear online store

when I go to the coclear americas store then click on the login link a sighted 
person told me another windowpopps up which is the login and jaws cannot 
announce the window to me.  it’s like the window  is not recognized by jaws.
is there a way I can get jaws to recognize the window so I can get in to the 
store?
here is the page
http://www.cochlear.com/wps/wcm/connect/us/recipients/nucleus-6/nucleus-6-accessories
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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[JAWS-Users] coclear online store

[Kevin]

when I go to the coclear americas store then click on the login link a sighted 
person told me another windowpopps up which is the login and jaws cannot 
announce the window to me.  it’s like the window  is not recognized by jaws.
is there a way I can get jaws to recognize the window so I can get in to the 
store?
here is the page
http://www.cochlear.com/wps/wcm/connect/us/recipients/nucleus-6/nucleus-6-accessories
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[David Ferrin]

To find system resources simply hit the windows key and the pause key at the 
same time and then review the resulting window.


-Original Message- 
From: Tammy

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Actually, it comes up every time.  I say yes.  Sometimes it starts working
and sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,
The message that you are getting:
Do you  want to allow this program to make changes to your computer.
is UAC (user account control)
When this dialogue pops up, you have to answer yes or no.
Once you have said yes, the dialogue shouldn't appear anymore, when it does
come up, simply press Alt + Y for yes.
If you are not saying yes to this dialogue, that may be the root of the
problem.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!



- Original Message -
From: "Tammy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


I'm not sure how much ram this computer has. I find where it says "system
information" but don't find information.  As for what is running, Jaws and
Outlook.  Sometimes I'll have 1 document open.  Now, it doesn't seem to take
much to jam it up.  I'm not doing anything different than I was before all
of this started.  I wish they would down size Jaws.  It has grown into such
a resource monster.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed?
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I

can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can

get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop

and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I

have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Mike B.]

Yeah Bob, what the hell did you think, you could get away that easily?!  You 
tellum Rick!  LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Rick Justice
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


Yeah, you did, but we re-subscribed you!
Now you are locked in this loop with us!

Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - 
From: "REGilman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


What, Am I still on this list?  I thought I unsubscribed years ago.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Obviously I know how to bring people out of the woodwork so to speak.

I just wanted to make sure that there was still an interest moving forward.
I kind of thought there was but it does not hurt to confirm such things.
Folks as much to my team and the fact that things have been so smooth on
here for quite some time is why we are cruzing along starting our twelfth
year next week. I don't believe it even as I type these words.

The vast majority of you actually have no idea how much has gone on in the
background with all of us over time.

It is just that we work so well together things plow on. All of us have had
medical issues and a couple of us have had shoulder surgery, rotator cuff to
be exact. Last year my wife had a new heart valve installed and I was off
the list for almost 8 weeks taking care of her. The guys did a great job
because I would have been no help at all during that time. There were days
that the only thing I did with this system was shut it off and nothing else
at all. I'm not telling you this to garner sympathy or anything like that,
rather to let you folks know that I work with the best couple of guys
available. FYI don't tell Bob I said that, his ego is already the size of
the grand canyon.

Just kidding Bob, he is really a humble guy or so I'm told.

So far as being blocked out what is really happening is that some services
are blocking messages from this domain from being delivered to their
customers and eventually Mailman removes them for bouncing messages. They
are able to post messages, it is just they can't receive which is a major
annoyance to say the least.

I'm convinced that interest still rains supreme, thank you all for
confirming that fact.


David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Mike B.]

Hi Tammy,

Have you tried temporarily disabling UAC to see what effect that might have 
with the way your computer performs?
Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Tammy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Actually, it comes up every time.  I say yes.  Sometimes it starts working
and sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,
The message that you are getting:
Do you  want to allow this program to make changes to your computer.
is UAC (user account control)
When this dialogue pops up, you have to answer yes or no.
Once you have said yes, the dialogue shouldn't appear anymore, when it does
come up, simply press Alt + Y for yes.
If you are not saying yes to this dialogue, that may be the root of the
problem.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!



- Original Message -
From: "Tammy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


I'm not sure how much ram this computer has. I find where it says "system
information" but don't find information.  As for what is running, Jaws and
Outlook.  Sometimes I'll have 1 document open.  Now, it doesn't seem to take
much to jam it up.  I'm not doing anything different than I was before all
of this started.  I wish they would down size Jaws.  It has grown into such
a resource monster.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed?
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I

can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can

get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop

and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I

have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Mike B.]

Hi David, Rick, & Bob,

What Wayne says below sums up my sentiments perfectly!

From: wayne smith
Put my name in with all the others!  David, you and your team are the best. 
I have taken myself off of other lists because they were so badly managed 
and filled with trivia, disputes and even bad info.  Even FS watches you 
guys because you do it so professionally and compassionately, even for us 
non-geeks.

We appreciate all of the time and hard work you do for us.

Wayne

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Ted Sparks
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


I replied earlier but did not see my message on the list. I totally agree 
with the following message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Put my name in with all the others!  David, you and your team are the best. 
I have taken myself off of other lists because they were so badly managed 
and filled with trivia, disputes and even bad info.  Even FS watches you 
guys because you do it so professionally and compassionately, even for us 
non-geeks.

We appreciate all of the time and hard work you do for us.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier 
this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and 
others have done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The 
fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I 
suppose that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Rick Justice]

Yeah, you did, but we re-subscribed you!
Now you are locked in this loop with us!

Rick Justice

"Everything must be learned, but some things just can't be taught!"

- Original Message - 
From: "REGilman" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


What, Am I still on this list?  I thought I unsubscribed years ago.
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Obviously I know how to bring people out of the woodwork so to speak.

I just wanted to make sure that there was still an interest moving forward.
I kind of thought there was but it does not hurt to confirm such things.
Folks as much to my team and the fact that things have been so smooth on
here for quite some time is why we are cruzing along starting our twelfth
year next week. I don't believe it even as I type these words.

The vast majority of you actually have no idea how much has gone on in the
background with all of us over time.

It is just that we work so well together things plow on. All of us have had
medical issues and a couple of us have had shoulder surgery, rotator cuff to
be exact. Last year my wife had a new heart valve installed and I was off
the list for almost 8 weeks taking care of her. The guys did a great job
because I would have been no help at all during that time. There were days
that the only thing I did with this system was shut it off and nothing else
at all. I'm not telling you this to garner sympathy or anything like that,
rather to let you folks know that I work with the best couple of guys
available. FYI don't tell Bob I said that, his ego is already the size of
the grand canyon.

Just kidding Bob, he is really a humble guy or so I'm told.

So far as being blocked out what is really happening is that some services
are blocking messages from this domain from being delivered to their
customers and eventually Mailman removes them for bouncing messages. They
are able to post messages, it is just they can't receive which is a major
annoyance to say the least.

I'm convinced that interest still rains supreme, thank you all for
confirming that fact.


David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Lenny McHugh]

Tammy, have you ever used msconfig? If so I would check the start up 
programs. Also wondering if there is some malware running?


-Original Message- 
From: Tammy

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Actually, it comes up every time.  I say yes.  Sometimes it starts working
and sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,
The message that you are getting:
Do you  want to allow this program to make changes to your computer.
is UAC (user account control)
When this dialogue pops up, you have to answer yes or no.
Once you have said yes, the dialogue shouldn't appear anymore, when it does
come up, simply press Alt + Y for yes.
If you are not saying yes to this dialogue, that may be the root of the
problem.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!



- Original Message -
From: "Tammy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


I'm not sure how much ram this computer has. I find where it says "system
information" but don't find information.  As for what is running, Jaws and
Outlook.  Sometimes I'll have 1 document open.  Now, it doesn't seem to take
much to jam it up.  I'm not doing anything different than I was before all
of this started.  I wish they would down size Jaws.  It has grown into such
a resource monster.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed?
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I

can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can

get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop

and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I

have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[REGilman]

What, Am I still on this list?  I thought I unsubscribed years ago. 
Bob

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Obviously I know how to bring people out of the woodwork so to speak.

I just wanted to make sure that there was still an interest moving forward. 
I kind of thought there was but it does not hurt to confirm such things. 
Folks as much to my team and the fact that things have been so smooth on
here for quite some time is why we are cruzing along starting our twelfth
year next week. I don't believe it even as I type these words.

The vast majority of you actually have no idea how much has gone on in the
background with all of us over time.

It is just that we work so well together things plow on. All of us have had
medical issues and a couple of us have had shoulder surgery, rotator cuff to
be exact. Last year my wife had a new heart valve installed and I was off
the list for almost 8 weeks taking care of her. The guys did a great job
because I would have been no help at all during that time. There were days
that the only thing I did with this system was shut it off and nothing else
at all. I'm not telling you this to garner sympathy or anything like that,
rather to let you folks know that I work with the best couple of guys
available. FYI don't tell Bob I said that, his ego is already the size of
the grand canyon.

Just kidding Bob, he is really a humble guy or so I'm told.

So far as being blocked out what is really happening is that some services
are blocking messages from this domain from being delivered to their
customers and eventually Mailman removes them for bouncing messages. They
are able to post messages, it is just they can't receive which is a major
annoyance to say the least.

I'm convinced that interest still rains supreme, thank you all for
confirming that fact.


David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Tammy]

Actually, it comes up every time.  I say yes.  Sometimes it starts working
and sometimes it doesn't.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,
The message that you are getting:
Do you  want to allow this program to make changes to your computer.
is UAC (user account control)
When this dialogue pops up, you have to answer yes or no.
Once you have said yes, the dialogue shouldn't appear anymore, when it does
come up, simply press Alt + Y for yes.
If you are not saying yes to this dialogue, that may be the root of the
problem.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!



- Original Message -
From: "Tammy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


I'm not sure how much ram this computer has. I find where it says "system
information" but don't find information.  As for what is running, Jaws and
Outlook.  Sometimes I'll have 1 document open.  Now, it doesn't seem to take
much to jam it up.  I'm not doing anything different than I was before all
of this started.  I wish they would down size Jaws.  It has grown into such
a resource monster.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed?
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I

can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can

get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop

and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I

have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

[andy t]

Hello David I have been on this list for a very long time and I also have 
learned a lot from this list I am glad it has lasted 11 years and I hope it 
is

around 11 more.

-Original Message- 
From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

Hi David,
Boy, this list is high traffic. LOL. I too have learned many things from
this list and hope you keep this list going for many years.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

Like I said boys and girls the list is not going anywhere for the time
being, I just wanted to make sure that the interest is still there and
everybody is on board moving forward in to 20`17.



-Original Message-
From: john_Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

David,

I have seen many responses to your earlier message and wanted to add my own.
Every time I have a Jaws issue, I try to find the answer here.  This is a
good list and a very helpful one.

I'm sure that you are getting tired of it after all of these years but don't
give up on us, David.  I, for one, need a resource for serious helpful
information about Jaws.



Finally, perhaps one explanation of why the list is quiet is that Jaws is
behaving itself for the most part.  However, Jaws 18 is coming and if
Freedom runs true to form, there are bound to be glitches, bugs and errors
which will require correction.  Hang in there, David.





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Ted Sparks]

I replied earlier but did not see my message on the list. I totally agree with 
the following message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Put my name in with all the others!  David, you and your team are the best.  I 
have taken myself off of other lists because they were so badly managed and 
filled with trivia, disputes and even bad info.  Even FS watches you guys 
because you do it so professionally and compassionately, even for us non-geeks.

We appreciate all of the time and hard work you do for us.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

[Mr. Ed]

Hi David,
Boy, this list is high traffic. LOL. I too have learned many things from
this list and hope you keep this list going for many years.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

Like I said boys and girls the list is not going anywhere for the time
being, I just wanted to make sure that the interest is still there and
everybody is on board moving forward in to 20`17.



-Original Message-
From: john_Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

David,

I have seen many responses to your earlier message and wanted to add my own.
Every time I have a Jaws issue, I try to find the answer here.  This is a
good list and a very helpful one.

I'm sure that you are getting tired of it after all of these years but don't
give up on us, David.  I, for one, need a resource for serious helpful
information about Jaws.



Finally, perhaps one explanation of why the list is quiet is that Jaws is
behaving itself for the most part.  However, Jaws 18 is coming and if
Freedom runs true to form, there are bound to be glitches, bugs and errors
which will require correction.  Hang in there, David.





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Rick Justice]

Hi Tammy,
The message that you are getting:
Do you  want to allow this program to make changes to your computer.
is UAC (user account control)
When this dialogue pops up, you have to answer yes or no.
Once you have said yes, the dialogue shouldn't appear anymore,
when it does come up, simply press Alt + Y for yes.
If you are not saying yes to this dialogue, that may be the root of the 
problem.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!



- Original Message - 
From: "Tammy" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


I'm not sure how much ram this computer has. I find where it says "system
information" but don't find information.  As for what is running, Jaws and
Outlook.  Sometimes I'll have 1 document open.  Now, it doesn't seem to take
much to jam it up.  I'm not doing anything different than I was before all
of this started.  I wish they would down size Jaws.  It has grown into such
a resource monster.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed?
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I

can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can

get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop

and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I

have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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[JAWS-Users] Thunderbird locking up

[anna vimini]

No it did not work

Hi,

Try clearing out your "Sent and Trash" folders.

On 10/12/2016 1:45 PM, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
Hi all using Thunderbird 45.40 all of a sudden I am having a problem of 
Thunderbird locking up for thirty minutes or so is anyone else having 
this problem?



THANKS in advance


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[Justin Williams]

This list is wonderful.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

Like I said boys and girls the list is not going anywhere for the time
being, I just wanted to make sure that the interest is still there and
everybody is on board moving forward in to 20`17.



-Original Message-
From: john_Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

David,

I have seen many responses to your earlier message and wanted to add my own.
Every time I have a Jaws issue, I try to find the answer here.  This is a
good list and a very helpful one.

I'm sure that you are getting tired of it after all of these years but don't
give up on us, David.  I, for one, need a resource for serious helpful
information about Jaws.



Finally, perhaps one explanation of why the list is quiet is that Jaws is
behaving itself for the most part.  However, Jaws 18 is coming and if
Freedom runs true to form, there are bound to be glitches, bugs and errors
which will require correction.  Hang in there, David.





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Mike B.]

Hi Tammy,

Try the following to find out how  much RAM you have installed:
1. Open your Control Panel.
2. Find, System Link, & press enter.
3. Move your Jaws cursor to the PC cursor.  If you have a numpad the 
keystroke is, Insert / Jaws key + Jaws cursor / Numpad minus key.
4. Press, Control + Home key, to take the cursor to the top of the page.
5. Now, down arrow 1 line at a time & you'll come to a line that says, 
Installed Memory Ram xxxGB.  This is the amount of ram you have.

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Tammy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


I'm not sure how much ram this computer has. I find where it says "system
information" but don't find information.  As for what is running, Jaws and
Outlook.  Sometimes I'll have 1 document open.  Now, it doesn't seem to take
much to jam it up.  I'm not doing anything different than I was before all
of this started.  I wish they would down size Jaws.  It has grown into such
a resource monster.
Thanks!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed?
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I

can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can

get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop

and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I

have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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[Jason White]

It has been very helpful for me also - thanks to all who have replied to my
various questions.

Greg Washington  wrote:
> I certainly am on board and like many others I have found this list
> extremely helpful.




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Tammy]

Nope they didn't ask or check.  The first thing they did was update Jaws.
Nope, that didn't fix it. 
Thanks

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I
can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can
get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop
and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.

 

I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I
have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Tammy]

I'm not sure how much ram this computer has. I find where it says "system
information" but don't find information.  As for what is running, Jaws and
Outlook.  Sometimes I'll have 1 document open.  Now, it doesn't seem to take
much to jam it up.  I'm not doing anything different than I was before all
of this started.  I wish they would down size Jaws.  It has grown into such
a resource monster.  
Thanks!  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed? 
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your 
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running 
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I

can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can

get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop

and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking 
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft 
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I

have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem 
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your 
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[David Ferrin]

My questions exactly. No matter how powerful a system happens to be it is 
possible to overload the most robust of them.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed?
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I
can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can
get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop
and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I
have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

[Greg Washington]

I certainly am on board and like many others I have found this list
extremely helpful.
Keep up the great work.
Greg Washington


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

Like I said boys and girls the list is not going anywhere for the time
being, I just wanted to make sure that the interest is still there and
everybody is on board moving forward in to 20`17.



-Original Message-
From: john_Justice
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

David,

I have seen many responses to your earlier message and wanted to add my own.
Every time I have a Jaws issue, I try to find the answer here.  This is a
good list and a very helpful one.

I'm sure that you are getting tired of it after all of these years but don't
give up on us, David.  I, for one, need a resource for serious helpful
information about Jaws.



Finally, perhaps one explanation of why the list is quiet is that Jaws is
behaving itself for the most part.  However, Jaws 18 is coming and if
Freedom runs true to form, there are bound to be glitches, bugs and errors
which will require correction.  Hang in there, David.





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Mike B.]

Hi Tammy,

If you don't have enough system resources, & have too many programs running 
something is going to give.  How much memory, RAM, do you have installed? 
What programs are running when you encounter this Jaws problem?

Take care.
Mike
Sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer


Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your 
laptop. JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running 
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I 
can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can 
get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop 
and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking 
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft 
accessibility and FS.



I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I 
have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem 
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your 
opinions.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[David Ferrin]

I am sorry if I scared anybody, we're not going off to the night just yet.

-Original Message- 
From: Pauline Dalton

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 2:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


Dave, the list is definitely helpful and an excellent source for many of us.
I had not received messages for a few days but just thought it was Comcast
acting up again.

Good to be back receiving email from the JAWS Users group.

Pauline



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier
this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and
others have done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The
fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I
suppose that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

[David Ferrin]

Like I said boys and girls the list is not going anywhere for the time 
being, I just wanted to make sure that the interest is still there and 
everybody is on board moving forward in to 20`17.




-Original Message- 
From: john_Justice

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

David,

I have seen many responses to your earlier message and wanted to add my own.
Every time I have a Jaws issue, I try to find the answer here.  This is a
good list and a very helpful one.

I'm sure that you are getting tired of it after all of these years but don't
give up on us, David.  I, for one, need a resource for serious helpful
information about Jaws.



Finally, perhaps one explanation of why the list is quiet is that Jaws is
behaving itself for the most part.  However, Jaws 18 is coming and if
Freedom runs true to form, there are bound to be glitches, bugs and errors
which will require correction.  Hang in there, David.





JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Judy]

David, just remember that quantity doesn't mean lack of quality. Maybe the
list has helped so much that this is why many of us don't have to write all
the time anymore. (smile)  Judy & Libby Thanks for all you do. 

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Obviously I know how to bring people out of the woodwork so to speak.

I just wanted to make sure that there was still an interest moving forward. 
I kind of thought there was but it does not hurt to confirm such things. 
Folks as much to my team and the fact that things have been so smooth on 
here for quite some time is why we are cruzing along starting our twelfth 
year next week. I don't believe it even as I type these words.

The vast majority of you actually have no idea how much has gone on in the 
background with all of us over time.

It is just that we work so well together things plow on. All of us have had 
medical issues and a couple of us have had shoulder surgery, rotator cuff to

be exact. Last year my wife had a new heart valve installed and I was off 
the list for almost 8 weeks taking care of her. The guys did a great job 
because I would have been no help at all during that time. There were days 
that the only thing I did with this system was shut it off and nothing else 
at all. I'm not telling you this to garner sympathy or anything like that, 
rather to let you folks know that I work with the best couple of guys 
available. FYI don't tell Bob I said that, his ego is already the size of 
the grand canyon.

Just kidding Bob, he is really a humble guy or so I'm told.

So far as being blocked out what is really happening is that some services 
are blocking messages from this domain from being delivered to their 
customers and eventually Mailman removes them for bouncing messages. They 
are able to post messages, it is just they can't receive which is a major 
annoyance to say the least.

I'm convinced that interest still rains supreme, thank you all for 
confirming that fact.


David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Adrian Spratt]

Tammy, I wonder if FS asked about the amount of RAM installed on your laptop. 
JAWS is a memory hog.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Tammy
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 4:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running Jaws 
17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I can't 
do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can get 
other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop and 
launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking if I 
want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft 
accessibility and FS.

 

I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I 
have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem 1st 
started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your opinions.

Thanks so much!  

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[JAWS-Users] COMMENTS ON THE LIST

[john_Justice]

David,

I have seen many responses to your earlier message and wanted to add my own.
Every time I have a Jaws issue, I try to find the answer here.  This is a
good list and a very helpful one.

I'm sure that you are getting tired of it after all of these years but don't
give up on us, David.  I, for one, need a resource for serious helpful
information about Jaws.

 

Finally, perhaps one explanation of why the list is quiet is that Jaws is
behaving itself for the most part.  However, Jaws 18 is coming and if
Freedom runs true to form, there are bound to be glitches, bugs and errors
which will require correction.  Hang in there, David.

 

 

JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE

PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

 



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[JAWS-Users] Thunderbird locking up

[anna vimini]

I will try it and get back to you tomorrow

Hi,

Try clearing out your "Sent and Trash" folders.

On 10/12/2016 1:45 PM, anna vimini wrote:
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Hi all using Thunderbird 45.40 all of a sudden I am having a problem of 
Thunderbird locking up for thirty minutes or so is anyone else having 
this problem?



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[JAWS-Users] Jaws jamming up my computer

[Tammy]

Here's something for you to scratch your head over.  Grin!  I am running
Jaws 17 on a Windows 8.1 laptop.  Randomly, Jaws will jam up my computer.  I
can't do anything with it until it lets me.  When it finally gives in, I can
get other sounds on it but I have to relaunch Jaws.  Ok, I go to the desktop
and launch it from there.  Every time it pops up the user interface asking
if I want to allow this program to make changes to my computer.

This is geting very old and annoying!  I have already worked with Microsoft
accessibility and FS.

 

I had esset, Norton and Avast removed from my system.  The only anti virus I
have is windows defender.  FS upgraded my Jaws from 14 to 17.  The problem
1st started with 14.  Problem continues.  Ok, I would love to hear your
opinions.

Thanks so much!  

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[wayne smith]

Put my name in with all the others!  David, you and your team are the best.  I 
have taken myself off of other lists because they were so badly managed and 
filled with trivia, disputes and even bad info.  Even FS watches you guys 
because you do it so professionally and compassionately, even for us non-geeks.

We appreciate all of the time and hard work you do for us.

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[George Marshall]

Hi David:

I am on Comcast and I've had no problems receiving emails from this list.

Thank you,

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its� course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let�s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don�t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird locking up

[Ward Dudley]

Hi,


Try clearing out your "Sent and Trash" folders.




On 10/12/2016 1:45 PM, anna vimini wrote:
Hi all using Thunderbird 45.40 all of a sudden I am having a problem 
of Thunderbird locking up for thirty minutes or so is anyone else 
having this problem?


THANKS in advance


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[JAWS-Users] Thunderbird locking up

[anna vimini]

Hi all using Thunderbird 45.40 all of a sudden I am having a problem of 
Thunderbird locking up for thirty minutes or so is anyone else having 
this problem?


THANKS in advance


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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Pauline Dalton]

Dave, the list is definitely helpful and an excellent source for many of us.
I had not received messages for a few days but just thought it was Comcast 
acting up again.


Good to be back receiving email from the JAWS Users group.

Pauline



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier 
this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and 
others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The 
fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I 
suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Annette Carr]

Hi David,

In my opinion, this list is not close to have run its course.  I think that 
right now we are in a smooth sailing period with JAWS and most of the commonly 
used applications and no one is running into major issues.  Of course you have 
faced the problem with mail compatibility, so I am not sure how many users that 
has impacted.  I do think as soon as JAWS18 officially hits the streets there 
will be an increase in traffic, as well as when updates to commonly used 
products become available.  

I personally am very appreciative of the hard work and effort you and the team 
put into keeping this list up and running.  I've learned a lot, and try to pay 
it back by contributing whenever possible.  This list fills a gap that is not 
able to be filled by FS/VFO Technical Support on many levels.  Please no one 
take that as a slam to FS/VFO.

Thank you David & Team!

Annette
 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Louise Johnson]

Hi I have been here for just about 3 years and I have learned a lot from others 
and yes I don't post that often but I do learn from each of you. Thanks for 
having a group so beginners can learn and when we start learning can help 
others. I hope we are around for many more years to help each other Louise and 
princess Kiara 


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
of Fred Adams
Sent: October 12, 2016 4:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

David, I want to let you know that I really appreciate this list.  I have been 
on the list almost since its beginning.  I have been bumped off several times 
but I always manage to get back on and the last time I was bumped off it was 
really hard for me to get back on but I finally managed to do it.  I hope you 
will continue as long as you can.  I really appreciate you very much.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Teresa Arroyo Llosa]

Hello David,

As others, I have learnt a lot from this list. I even benefit with other 
people's questions; some times, I look up the archives for replies  to 
questions I am needing a sertain time. I have learnt quite a fiew thing 
regarding working Jaws that I didn't know.


Please, keep the list running as much as you can. I for one am very greatful 
for your work.


Best regards,

Teresa Arroyo Llosa

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier 
this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and 
others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The 
fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I 
suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Tim Ford]

Hi Maria,

I agree with everything you say; Dave, please hang in there!

Tim Ford


-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 8:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Hi David, I have been on the list forever and on other lists as well.
Two aspects of this particular list are of importance to me.

1.  VFO actually monitors the list, and it may be the only one, so that
they know what is needed, wanted, and yes, even not totally seen as
positive innovations of JAWS by the membership.

2.  To my thinking, despite differences of opinion at times, this list
has had few real times of turmoil, in spite the large size of the
membership and the age of the list.

So, if you can stand us any longer, remain sane, maintain your
fortitude, and accept the pay scale, please keep up the good work.


Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 10/12/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Flusche wrote:
Hi David, I have been on here for about 8 years now. Your email list has 
helped me very much over the years. Weather you know it or not, You 
encouraged me to start the W-10 and Jaws group. So keep up the good work 
as long as you feel like you can continue.



Love God with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be 
spiritually balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from his lips, then reflect on the heavens 
where God sits.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the 
past several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and 
earlier this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com 
cast and others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about 
the way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. 
The fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in 
business, I suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Maria Campbell]

Hi David, I have been on the list forever and on other lists as well.  
Two aspects of this particular list are of importance to me.


1.  VFO actually monitors the list, and it may be the only one, so that 
they know what is needed, wanted, and yes, even not totally seen as 
positive innovations of JAWS by the membership.


2.  To my thinking, despite differences of opinion at times, this list 
has had few real times of turmoil, in spite the large size of the 
membership and the age of the list.


So, if you can stand us any longer, remain sane, maintain your 
fortitude, and accept the pay scale, please keep up the good work.



Maria Campbell
luc...@gmail.com

Love and compassion are necessities, not luxuries.
Without them, humanity cannot survive.
--Dalai Lama

On 10/12/2016 11:14 AM, Jim Flusche wrote:

Hi David, I have been on here for about 8 years now. Your email list has helped 
me very much over the years. Weather you know it or not, You encouraged me to 
start the W-10 and Jaws group. So keep up the good work as long as you feel 
like you can continue.


Love God with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from his lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[T. Civitello]

Would hate to see this list go away. It is a valuable resource.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier 
this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and 
others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The 
fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I 
suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[David Ferrin]

It's not a money issue at all and I am sorry for failing to point out that 
fact in my previous message.


I got a deal from a friend in Canada 8 years ago who had space to spare at a 
really dirt cheep price so like the saying goes he made me an offer I 
couldn't refuse.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Pursley

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Maybe Optilec/Freedom Scientific should subsidize list expenses as
surely traffic which would have gone to tech support flows througgh the
list.  I had a dog of a time with ribbon menus and from time to time an
issue comes up which I pose to the list. I'd feel lost without the
sharing support I and other members receive from not only the list but
the resources you've prepared.

On 10/12/2016 7:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote:
I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the 
past several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and 
earlier this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com 
cast and others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about 
the way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. 
The fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in 
business, I suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[David Ferrin]

Obviously I know how to bring people out of the woodwork so to speak.

I just wanted to make sure that there was still an interest moving forward. 
I kind of thought there was but it does not hurt to confirm such things. 
Folks as much to my team and the fact that things have been so smooth on 
here for quite some time is why we are cruzing along starting our twelfth 
year next week. I don't believe it even as I type these words.


The vast majority of you actually have no idea how much has gone on in the 
background with all of us over time.


It is just that we work so well together things plow on. All of us have had 
medical issues and a couple of us have had shoulder surgery, rotator cuff to 
be exact. Last year my wife had a new heart valve installed and I was off 
the list for almost 8 weeks taking care of her. The guys did a great job 
because I would have been no help at all during that time. There were days 
that the only thing I did with this system was shut it off and nothing else 
at all. I'm not telling you this to garner sympathy or anything like that, 
rather to let you folks know that I work with the best couple of guys 
available. FYI don't tell Bob I said that, his ego is already the size of 
the grand canyon.


Just kidding Bob, he is really a humble guy or so I'm told.

So far as being blocked out what is really happening is that some services 
are blocking messages from this domain from being delivered to their 
customers and eventually Mailman removes them for bouncing messages. They 
are able to post messages, it is just they can't receive which is a major 
annoyance to say the least.


I'm convinced that interest still rains supreme, thank you all for 
confirming that fact.



David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Christine Murphy]

Hi David,

I've found this list to be a very valuable resource for many years.  I've 
learned so much!  I'd be very disappointed if it is ended.  

It's reassuring to know the list is here.  Sharing information significantly 
reduces time and frustration trying to find solutions to problems.  People's 
technical skills vary and a list such as this helps us all learn from one 
another.  

Thank you!

Chris Murphy

  

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 3:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Subash]

Hi David, I think I am a newBe on this list, only joined this year, but I 
have received tremendous help and support by the many members who are always 
ready and willing to help out with their knowledge.
I think you are doing a great service in hoasting this list and will urge 
you to keep it going for it is definitely a wonderful resource and not a 
waste of your time.

Thank you for all the effert.
Subash

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Pursley

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 10:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Maybe Optilec/Freedom Scientific should subsidize list expenses as
surely traffic which would have gone to tech support flows througgh the
list.  I had a dog of a time with ribbon menus and from time to time an
issue comes up which I pose to the list. I'd feel lost without the
sharing support I and other members receive from not only the list but
the resources you've prepared.

On 10/12/2016 7:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote:
I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the 
past several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and 
earlier this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com 
cast and others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about 
the way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. 
The fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in 
business, I suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Jim Flusche]

Hi David, I have been on here for about 8 years now. Your email list has helped 
me very much over the years. Weather you know it or not, You encouraged me to 
start the W-10 and Jaws group. So keep up the good work as long as you feel 
like you can continue.


Love God with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed reaching 
His goal.
Love your neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with good 
health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from his lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.
Jim

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[John M.]

David,

I appreciate this list for the fact that it is NOT a high traffic list. I 
see the traffic on many of the non-high traffic lists rise and fall, 
depending on the time of year and the current activity around the subject of 
the list. As another member mentioned, I am sure that traffic will rise 
quickly as the next version of Jaws is released.


I am sure that maintaining this list takes a fair amount of your time and we 
all can appreciate that fact and are grateful that you have provided this 
service for so long.


Keep up the great work!

John

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:55 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic


I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the 
past several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and 
earlier this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast 
and others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about 
the way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. 
The fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in 
business, I suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Jim Pursley]

Maybe Optilec/Freedom Scientific should subsidize list expenses as 
surely traffic which would have gone to tech support flows througgh the 
list.  I had a dog of a time with ribbon menus and from time to time an 
issue comes up which I pose to the list. I'd feel lost without the 
sharing support I and other members receive from not only the list but 
the resources you've prepared.


On 10/12/2016 7:55 AM, David Ferrin wrote:

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Ted Sparks]

Add me to the list of those who hope this list keeps going. I have received a 
lot of help from this list.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 5:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[John Vernaleken`]

David
I consider this a valuable resource. I think traffic will increase when  JAWS 
18 is released.

John


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Geno9802]

To David F and your team:
I think I have been here pretty much from the start of the list. As others have 
stated, this is a valued group! The Mods and yourself, with your help and your 
web-site with valuable information! Along with others on the list sharing their 
experience or a way around or what to do. Congratulations on the 11 years and 
hope you can keep the web-site up and this list still going.
In great appreciation of what you as the owner and your MOD TEAM, do, with no 
money or fan-fare, to which running a well, oiled-organized-e-mail group packed 
full  of information.
Geno/Gene in Portland, ME. Giving you all a high-five!!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Lenny McHugh]

I agree and had a lot of help from list members

-Original Message- 
From: Janie Degenshein

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Well, I for one have learned much here and it would be a pity to see it
close up
Anyway, just letting you guyys know the value of such a list
Hope this gets through considering I have comcast

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier
this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and
others have done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The
fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I
suppose that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Humberto Rodriguez]

Hello David:

I guess spam is such a big problem that delivery of emails is at best iffy 
anymore from private domains, at least that was my experience, figured I had to 
move the list to a list provider for better delivery, thus I went to 
Googlegroups.

I for one, find this list very useful and encourage you  to continue 
administering it.  Private domains and smaller ISPs have no problem receiving 
your messages, at least I have not have problems so far.

All the best,

Humberto

Humberto Rodriguez
Fort White, Florida


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Tom Behler]

David:

I, too, find this list to be incredibly valuable.

The folks on the list have come to my aid during a few desperate times over the 
past couple of years, and I am truly appreciative of that.

I hope I might have helped some folks along the way as well.

I realize that serving as a list moderator is a demanding and often thankless 
job, so please continue to hang in there as long as you can.

Sincerely,
Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fred Adams
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

David, I want to let you know that I really appreciate this list.  I have been 
on the list almost since its beginning.  I have been bumped off several times 
but I always manage to get back on and the last time I was bumped off it was 
really hard for me to get back on but I finally managed to do it.  I hope you 
will continue as long as you can.  I really appreciate you very much.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] JAWS 17 Upload TechAssist

[dooie]

Hello,

I just got a new copy of JAWS 17 and got somewhat of a surprise, 
as the 20 character authorisation code, had No Number signs or 
spaces for Letters; so, I had to contact the local Veteran Blind 
Orientation Specialist, who issued that copy, to get that correct 
Authorisation code.


Once the Authorisation code was received; I had to Dymo label 
that code, on the JAWS 17 CD package, as what I had received from 
Freedom Scientific, was so poorly Braille labelled.


Now, the next predicament that was encountered.

I have a Gateway desktop CPU, with Windows7, with JAWS 14; and I 
inserted the JAWS 17 Program disc, yet I had forgot that a 
Comcast rep had changed the POP 3 setting to IMAP, without 
changing the advanced numeric settings; consequently, I can't 
access the Internet, to get Authorisation for the JAWS 17 
program.


Question 1; at the start menu; how do I gain access to where the 
POP 3 / IMAP Email/Internet setting are located on the Gateway 
CPU; so I can put the POP 3 setting back; so I can upload the new 
JAWS 17 version.


Question 2; Should I consider using the IMAP setting; and if so; 
what are the correct numeric settings?


The reason I had a Comcast rep come out; was that Emails I was 
receiving from Comcast, concerning their X-infinity new Talking 
TV Remote; and when I would download emails from them; to a 
Humanware Apex, I was receiving unreadable/unaudible Emails, as 
if it was in nothing but, characters and foreign lingo garbage.


Topic 2.

I am trying to locate a audio text format copy of David Pogue's 
book, titled; Windows10 The Missing Manual.  I got the NLS / 
Talking Books Library's, audio book; yet I am after a E-text 
format copy of this book.  I won't try listening to the audio 
book, and transcribing into a Braille format; nor will I get a 
text copy of the book to scan it, to get the wanted CPU text 
version, for easy access.


Any and All assistance, would be Valuably Appreciated.

Sincerely,

DJ Meyrick
100% Blind USN Vet
Portland, Oregon

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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Hicks Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Absolutely, me too!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fred Adams
Sent: 12 October 2016 12:08
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

David, I want to let you know that I really appreciate this list.  I have been 
on the list almost since its beginning.  I have been bumped off several times 
but I always manage to get back on and the last time I was bumped off it was 
really hard for me to get back on but I finally managed to do it.  I hope you 
will continue as long as you can.  I really appreciate you very much.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Jason White]

Well managed mailing lists such as this one can last a very long time. They
don't just suddenly die, unless people lose interest in the topic or otherwise
move on due to administrative issues with the list.

Implementing DMARC and configuring the list not to break DKIM signatures are
both a certain amount of work, but large mail operators are starting to insist
on these (Yahoo in particular, as I recall), so it might be worth doing at
Asome point. I set all of this up on my own mail server last year. Yahoo
has a DNS record that instructs other sites which use DMARC to reject all mail
from Yahoo addresses that fails DMARC verification. I odn't know whether large
operators are placing mail that fails DMARC tests into quarantine, but it
wouldn't surprise me to find that they are.

David Ferrin  wrote:
> I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
> several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
> year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others 
> have done the same. 
> 
> It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
> this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 
> 
> Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
> don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
> way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The 
> fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I 
> suppose that would be an interesting study. 
> 
> Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
> David Ferrin
> You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[michv]

hello I to must say how happy I am to get traffic from this list since I to 
have found it really good when I have questions or am stuck on something 
having to do with jaws. why just the other day I had a friend call me and 
tell me that they were getting a tablit and it was a aser and they were 
asking me how they coud make it accessible. I told them about jaws and where 
to get a demmo version to try it out and I rememberd the topic coming up 
hear on the list about how you were able to use jaws on a tablit pc to make 
it accessible. so I agree this list still has a perpice to serve. so keep up 
the grait work. from Mich Verrier from New Liskeard Ontario Canada.


-Original Message- 
From: Dialup%56k

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 7:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

Hello David,
Interesting topic, as I was only thinking the other day just how
peaceful and 'on topic' the list has been this last month or so.
For me, it's an invaluable resource.
Glen

***

On 12-Oct-2016 10:08 pm, Fred Adams wrote:
David, I want to let you know that I really appreciate this list.  I have 
been on the list almost since its beginning.  I have been bumped off 
several times but I always manage to get back on and the last time I was 
bumped off it was really hard for me to get back on but I finally managed 
to do it.  I hope you will continue as long as you can.  I really 
appreciate you very much.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the 
past several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and 
earlier this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com 
cast and others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about 
the way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. 
The fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in 
business, I suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Jerrie Toney]

David,
It would be a shame to see this list go away.  It has helped me many times over 
the past few years.  Thanks for all that you do!

Jerrie

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Dialup]

Hello David,
Interesting topic, as I was only thinking the other day just how 
peaceful and 'on topic' the list has been this last month or so.

For me, it's an invaluable resource.
Glen

***

On 12-Oct-2016 10:08 pm, Fred Adams wrote:

David, I want to let you know that I really appreciate this list.  I have been 
on the list almost since its beginning.  I have been bumped off several times 
but I always manage to get back on and the last time I was bumped off it was 
really hard for me to get back on but I finally managed to do it.  I hope you 
will continue as long as you can.  I really appreciate you very much.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same.

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study.

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Fred Adams]

David, I want to let you know that I really appreciate this list.  I have been 
on the list almost since its beginning.  I have been bumped off several times 
but I always manage to get back on and the last time I was bumped off it was 
really hard for me to get back on but I finally managed to do it.  I hope you 
will continue as long as you can.  I really appreciate you very much.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[Janie Degenshein]

Well, I for one have learned much here and it would be a pity to see it 
close up

Anyway, just letting you guyys know the value of such a list
Hope this gets through considering I have comcast

-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2016 6:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier 
this year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and 
others have done the same.


It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old 
this week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself.


Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The 
fact is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I 
suppose that would be an interesting study.


Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates.
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help.
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

[JAWS-Users] regarding the recent drop in list traffic

[David Ferrin]

I am a bit concerned over the significant drop in list traffic over the past 
several weeks. Granted Microsoft has blocked out this domain and earlier this 
year road runner did the same thing. Also in the past com cast and others have 
done the same. 

It might be possible that the list has run its’ course. It is 11 years old this 
week as a matter of fact which I find hard to believe myself. 

Let’s see how things go for a while before any major decisions are made so 
don’t anybody panic at this point. I am just expressing my concern about the 
way things have dropped off so much. It had to happen sooner or later. The fact 
is I have no idea how long the average email list stays in business, I suppose 
that would be an interesting study. 

Now to sit back and see what kind of response this message generates. 
David Ferrin
You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. 
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/