KR> gathering fishing

[Mike Turner]

Bigger as the night goes on!!!

Mike Turner
Jackson, Missouri
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  Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:50 PM
  Subject: KR> gathering fishing


  rember to bring your fishing pole there are some big fish in that 
  pond by the camp site.
 Bill White

  "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil,
  but because of those who look on and do nothing"
  Albert Einstein

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KR> kr wings

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Don Chisholm<mailto:chizmsupholst...@rogers.com> 
  To: kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 9:36 PM
  Subject: KR> kr wings


  having the
  outer panels out of the way now then fabricating the rest
  of the airplane puts you way ahead of the game 

  I did my outer wings first but wished I hadn't. They were always in my way, 
every time I wanted to do something on the fuselage I had to move them out of 
my way.

  Mike Turner 
  Jackson, Missouri 

KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: patrusso<mailto:patru...@sover.net> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 5:26 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.
  Dubi
  One other aspect of peel ply is that it helps to save over all weight as you 
pull it off it removes some of the excess epoxy that you would not other wise 
get just by squeege process.

  Mike Turner
  Jackson, Missouri

  Dubi
  You are correct on all counts. Other hints are: A-Using peel ply will leave 
  a smoother finish with less sanding later on. B-If you are using urethane 
  foam, wipe down the cured glass with a lightly dampened (with denatured 
  alcohol) cloth to remove the waxy residue that epoxy generates in the 
  curing process. This will make sanding easier and faster. Omit this if you 
  are using styrene foams. Alcohol will attack/melt  the foam if not totally 
  protected. Not all foams require slurry. Some urethanes are dense enough to 
  simply apply wet epoxy to, then lay your cloth on and stiple and squeegee 
  off the excess. Good luck.
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  From: "Dubi Gefen" <dub...@maanit.org.il<mailto:dub...@maanit.org.il>>
  To: <kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net>>
  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 2:01 PM
  Subject: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.


  > Hello Krnet members!
  >
  > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam.
  >
  > Follow th
  > Regards
  > Dubi Gefen.
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KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Robert Morrissey<mailto:cam...@earthlink.net> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 8:40 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Procedure to cover glass cloth on foam.

  Dubi, see # 8

  Mike Turner
  Jackson, Missouri


  > Hello Krnet members!
  >
  > I would like to understanding the glassing procedure on foam.
  >
  > Follow the procedure as I understanding.
  >
  > 1. Sending the foam.
  > 2. Cover/squeegee over the foam with slurry (Micro + epoxy)
  > 3. Cover the wet slurry with glass cloth.
  > 4. Cover over the glass cloth with pure epoxy and squeegee off any
  > excess epoxy.
  > 5. Wait two day, when all the slurry/epoxy is dry.
  > 6. Sending the surface area.
  > 7. Use macro slurry to fill in unsmooth area.
  > *8 keep the micro off the wood spars this requires pure epoxy

  >
  > Waiting to confirmation or correction.
  >
  > Regards
  > Dubi Gefen.
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KR> Ken Boyer/Panting

[Mike Turner]

Ken Boyer came by today and checked out my KR2S. He is molding some wheel pants 
for me including a tail wheel pant. That just gets me a little closer to a 
great big YHA. How many days??

Mike Turner
Jackson, Missouri

KR> getting ready for passenger need briefing

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Heath<mailto:da...@alltel.net> 
  To: kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 11:39 AM
  Subject: Re: KR> getting ready for passenger need briefing


  Mac, pick a cool high pressure day for better performance ---and listen to Dan

  Mike Turner
  Jackson, Missouri

KR> getting ready for passenger need briefing

[Mike Turner]

Mac, I would check that cg, just plug in a 205 passenger at the same datum 
distance as the pilot and run it through your cg calculations, then you know 
weather it's safe to fly or not. 

Mike Turner
Jackson, Missouri
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KR> KR parts

[Mike Turner]

I had a conversation with Ken Boyer today who is very good when it comes to the 
manufacture of aircraft parts. Mostly non-structural items such as wheel pants, 
engine cowlings, turtle decks, front decks ect... He has spent years working 
for Sabre-Liner on a number of their fiber glassing projects. Anyone needing 
wheel pants or other parts might give him a call @ 573-543-5538. He doesn't 
have an E-mail right now but I have found his work to be excellent and very 
reasonable prices. This might save some of us a lot of time in getting our 
projects finished up and in the air a lot sooner. 
YHaa  Ken has plans to be at the gathering 
so you might want to seek him out.

Mike Turner 
Jackson, Missouri

KR> (no subject)

[Mike Turner]

Is the KR net quiet or is something wrong with my computer?  I'm only getting 
around 3 or 4 a day.

Mark, how many days?   Can't wait!!

Mike Turner
Jackson, MO


Spin the prop, light the fire, dance among the stars..N642MC

KR> Air Supply

[Mike Turner]

Dan, I like the locations for fresh air/heat and carb air but I have a concern 
about the cooling of the bottom of the engine which. I think your set up will 
cool the bottom of the engine quite well but by ramming air under the engine 
you may be pressuring the bottom and restricting the flow of cooling air from 
the top of the engine and possibly over heating the engine on top.

Mike Turner
Jackson, Missouri
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  From: Dan Heath<mailto:da...@alltel.net> 
  To: kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:23 PM
  Subject: KR> Air Supply


  Getting ready for the air supplies. The blue circles are where I am thinking
  of putting holes for cabin heat and fresh air. I am going to get carb air
  from the center of that slit. That slit also provides cooling for the
  underside of the engine. 

KR> Engine Test

[Mike Turner]

  Dan, I had to put a recess in my wing tanks also. I just made the recess 
diameter 1/8 inch bigger than I needed, installed  the gasket  with no sealer 
then poured a little jeffco tank sealer around the probe mount. I hauled these 
tanks around in the back of an old van full of fuel for a couple of weeks to 
test for leaks. Missouri has the worst roads in the nation so I considered this 
a good test. So far no leaks. 

  Mike Turner
  Jackson, Missouri

  When putting the fuel probe in the tank, do you use gasket sealer or just
  the gasket.  The probe seller man said to use sealer and I did.  It was
  Locktite sealer and it just gooed all over and leaked.  Other than that, the
  fuel gauge is working now. 

  .
  Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
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KR> Need Altitude Recorder

[Mike Turner]

Mark,  thanks for the info and yes I would like the schematic. Looks like the 
best way to go. My address is PO box 735, Jackson, Missouri 63755
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  From: Mark Langford<mailto:n5...@hiwaay.net> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 7:41 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Need Altitude Recorder


  Mike Turner wrote:

  > I have a Terra TRT250 transponder but I need an altitude recorder, wiring
  harness, and antenna.

  That's easy enough.  Make your own!  I used a computer cable for one end of
  the cable, (so at least one end was "factory" perfect), shortened it and put
  a radio shack D-shell on it and ran it between the TRT250 and an off the
  shelf Ameri-King AK-350 encoder.  If you need the schematic, send me your
  address and I'll throw it in the mail to you (it's 11x17 or I'd just pdf
  it)...

  Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
  see KR2S project N56ML at 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford<http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford>
  email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> Cape Girardeau Air Festival

[Mike Turner]

Notice: Anyone flying into the Cape Girardeau Air Festival KCGI July 8-10 I 
just wanted to let you know the airport will close on sat. July 9 at 11 am for 
the air-show and will re open at 4:30pm . Sunday July 10 the airport closes at 
1 PM for the air show. More info on the Cape Air Festival at 
http://www.capeairfestival.com<http://www.capeairfestival.com/> 

Mike Turner 
Jackson, Missouri 

KR> Cape Girardeau Air Festival

[Mike Turner]

OOPS--That's at Cape Girardeau, Missouri---bring KRs ect..

Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri
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  From: Mike Turner<mailto:aviato...@msn.com> 
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  Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 7:08 PM
  Subject: KR> Cape Girardeau Air Festival


  Notice: Anyone flying into the Cape Girardeau Air Festival KCGI July 8-10 I 
just wanted to let you know the airport will close on sat. July 9 at 11 am for 
the air-show and will re open at 4:30pm . Sunday July 10 the airport closes at 
1 PM for the air show. More info on the Cape Air Festival at 
http://www.capeairfestival.com<http://www.capeairfestival.com/<http://wwwcapeairfestival.com<http://www.capeairfestival.com/>>
 

  Mike Turner 
  Jackson, Missouri 
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KR> Need Altitude Recorder

[Mike Turner]

I have a Terra TRT250 transponder but I need an altitude recorder, wiring 
harness, and antenna.

Anyone no of one?

KR> Choosing Nicopress sleeves

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: jscott.pi...@juno.com<mailto:jscott.pi...@juno.com> 
  To: kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 6:06 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Choosing Nicopress sleeves



  On Sun, 22 May 2005 00:28:07 +0200 Serge VIDAL 
<serge.vi...@sagem.com<mailto:serge.vi...@sagem.com>>
  writes:
  > Aircraft Spruce stocks two types of Nicopress sleeves: plain copper 
  > or 
  > zinc plated. Which ones should I order?
  > 
  > Serge Vidal

  Copper is the most commonly used sleeve, but either is acceptable.

  -Jeff Scott

  Wicks says to use zink and nickle plated copper with stainless cable and 
copper with galvanised cable 

  Mike Turner, Jackson, Missouri

KR> KR's and Wives

[Mike Turner]

  Mark sounds like she is really getting behind you on this building thing. Now 
make her happy and build a kr-4

  Mike Turner Jackson, Missouri
  Subject: KR> KR's and Wives


  . Funny thing is that she told me I should upgrade to a larger plane so we as 
>a family can go places. Ha
  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI


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KR> KR speeds

[Mike Turner]

Sorry forgot to sign it 

Mike Turner, Jackson, Missouri
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  From: Mike Turner<mailto:aviato...@msn.com> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:22 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> KR speeds


  Correction!
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From: Mark 
Jones<mailto:mjo...@muellersales.com<mailto:mjo...@muellersales.com>> 
To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net>> 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: KR> KR speeds


Take off roll rotate at 60 mph, lift off is between 65-70 mph.
"YEE___H"
Climb 90 mph for 1150 fpm climb.
Enter downwind at 100-110 mph.
Reduce power and turn base, 90 mph base leg.
Turn final, drop speed brake 1/2 way down maintain 85 mph.
1/2 mile out, full deflected speed brake, speed bleeds to 80 mph.
Over the numbers at 70 mph.
Flare and hold off till touch down at 65. With the new airfoil, my KR will 
not float far in ground effect, rather she will set right down and stay there.


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI

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Re: Réf. : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment.

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Serge VIDAL<mailto:serge.vi...@sagem.com> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 5:03 PM
  Subject: Réf. : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment.


  I have toyed with that idea myself for a while. A regular extinguisher 
  would probably do the job too. As for the fire detection system, why not 
  use a thermostat (heat sensor) of the correct rating?

  Serge Vidal
  KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
  Paris, France

  Smoke detector?

  Mike Turner
  Jackson, Mo.




  "haroldwoods" <haroldwo...@rogers.com<mailto:haroldwo...@rogers.com>>

  Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net<mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net>
  2005-05-08 23:04
  Veuillez répondre à KRnet
  Remis le : 2005-05-08 23:05


  Pour :  <kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net>>
  cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
  Objet : KR> fire control in the engine comparetment.



  H Netter.
  Sport Aviation had a suggestion, a long time ago about carburetor fires. 
  They suggested a Halon fire extinguisher in the cockpit area be plumbed 
  with a  hose into the engine compartment and be delivered into the throat 
  of the air supply into the carburetor. It would be a good idea to have a 
  sensor that would detect a fire and light up a bright red light in the 
  instrument panel.
  I already have my Halon extinguisher but can anyone suggest a fire 
  detection system?
  Regards
  Harold Woods
  Orillia,ON. Can.

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KR> Another great flight.

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Jones<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com> 
  To:  I could not force myself out of the air till darkness forced me down. 
  Mark, There is a solution to this night thing. Just add a light to each wing 
and one on the tail. Keep the KR between the lights and you will never get lost!

  Mike Turner Jackson, Mo.
  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI  USA 
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KR> Icing

[Mike Turner]

Pat, you make a good point. It's my understanding that polyester based products 
will not bond to epoxy products. Would it not be better to just thin epoxy with 
alcohol and use that as a filler?

Mike Turner 
Jackson, Mo.
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  From: Pat Driscoll<mailto:patric...@usfamily.net> 
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  Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 9:02 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Icing


  Mark,
 Anyone used this "Icing" on a aircraft that you know of? Is there any 
chance that vibration will cause it to release from the skin and chip away?
  Pat Driscoll
  Saint Paul, MN 
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KR> FIRST FLIGHT

[Mike Turner]

Way to go Mark--YEEHAA

Mike Turner
Jackson, Mo.
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  From: Mark Jones<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com> 
  To: KR Net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> ; 
Corvaircraft<mailto:corvaircr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 4:32 PM
  Subject: KR> FIRST FLIGHT


  Today, March 20, 2005 at exactly 1:30pm central time, N886MJ left the bonds 
of earth with me at the controls. Thirty minutes later, N886MJ returned to the 
earth and the pilot had one of those big KR/Corvair grins across his face that 
still has not faded away. So here it is guys and 
gals. 
YEHAA
  I am now a true KR pilot. Does that mean I have to sing at this years 
gathering? Joe Weber flew in from southwest Wisconsin to witness the event. He 
even got the take off on video (which I have viewed at least 20 times since I 
have been home). The KR flew better than I ever expected. Take off and climb 
out were smooth as glass and absolutely no porpoising. I had intended to stay 
in the pattern and make one circuit and land but the plane felt so good that I 
made two circuits around the airport then left the pattern and headed north of 
the airport. My carb is an Ellison EFS2 which is a little too small for the 
Corvair but still yielded me a cruse at wide open throttle of 144 mph with the 
Sterba 56 x 64 prop I have. My static rpm is 2650 but I can not tell you my 
cruise rpm yet as I forgot to look. CHT temp at cruise was dead on 300°, oil 
temp at cruise was 180°, oil pressure at cruise was 50 psi, exhaust temp was 
around 1200° (I did not write that down but called it out to Joe down on the 
ground). Here is the best partthis KR is as stable as you could possibly 
ask for. Not one time did it pitch, wobble, shutter, or cough, and IT FLEW 
HANDS OFF. Just thought you guys would like to know.. 

  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI  USA 
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KR> Sanding wing fairing

[Mike Turner]

Brian I would try one of those traffic cones. just glue some sandpaper around 
it and test it on a sample piece of foam

 Mike Turner Jackson, Mo.
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  From: Brian Kraut<mailto:brian.kr...@engalt.com> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 10:27 PM
  Subject: KR> Sanding wing fairing


  I need to sand a wing root fairing foam block with about a 3" radius for
  most of the length, then go to about a 12" radius aft of the wing (this will
  be a Hughes Racer looking fairing).  The front half before the radius
  changes will be easy enough to do with a coffee can or something, but I
  don't know any good way to do the changing radius on the aft side.  Anyone
  have any suggestions or do I just have to eyeball it and maybe use some
  cardboard templates?

  Brian Kraut
  Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
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KR> tri-carriage

[Mike Turner]

Andy, I bought a kr2 in the boat stage and cut it into on purpose so I could 
stretch it another 14 inches. It wasn't too difficult for me because the bottom 
ply skin had not been put on yet. I  leveled the boat, built a support for both 
the rear section and the front section so the top logerons could be maintained 
in the same plane at all times. I cut through the boat 1/2 way between  2 
vertical members using a 1 to 12 ratio angle on the cuts. I added an extra 
logeron to the bottoms of both top logerons  and an extra logeron to the tops 
of both bottom logerons for the length of 2 stations (approx 28").  Once I had 
the rear section moved back 14" I clamped 1"x2"s to the sides at the top 
logerons and also near the bottom logerons to hold everything in place. By 
doing this all of the horz. members top and bot had to be cut and replaced 
because all of those distances will have to change. Also the bottom rake as it 
slopes up to the tail will also change and compensation will have to be made to 
accommodate this change in slopes. I also added 4 pieces of 3/32" plywood by 4" 
wide to the joints on the inside of the skin. (this is over kill) Then put in 
an extra station. If you already have the skin on the bottom stretching might 
be out of the question unless you just cut the whole bottom out from the rear 
spar back to the tail and replace it. 
      Mike Turner 
  Jackson, Mo
  - Original Message - 
  From: Andy Hatting<mailto:a.hatt...@ru.ac.za> 
  To: kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 12:24 AM
  Subject: KR> tri-carriage


  I am from South Africa and have just bought a partly assembled KR2. 
  We are not comfortable with a taildragger and would like to fit a tri-
  wheel under carriage. Where can one find such and perhaps plans to 
  fit them?
  The previous owner had to cut the plane behind the cockpit to get it 
  out of his garage, and I wonder if someone has some views on the 
  best way to join the two parts. The frame is of wood. 
  Andy Hatting

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KR> N-Number Reservation

[Mike Turner]

http://162.58.35.241/e.gov/NN/resreqform.asp

KR> N-Numbers

[Mike Turner]

Sorry,  I tried to sent the link but it didn't work.  Try Civil Aircraft 
Registry




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KR> Christmas eve at the airport

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: paulw...@webtv.net<mailto:paulw...@webtv.net> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 1:34 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Christmas eve at the airport


  Hi;
  You're a poet
  And don't know it!---but his feet show it cause they're "longfellows"
  Merry Christmas   Mike Turner

  Happy Holidays to all!
  Paul
  KR2s...%80, maybe.




  
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KR>nut staplers

[Mike Turner]

This is for you guys that are worried about those nut staplers. You just have 
to know what "women want" They like for you to buy them stuff and think about 
them all the time. Which is exactly what I do. When I started building a kr I 
let her know how much I was thinking about her by naming the kr after her "The 
Miss Carolyn". Every chance I get I buy stuff for her. Instead of wasting money 
on stupid stuff like flowers for her birthday I got her control cables and some 
an bolts. For valentines day I got her a matching set of alum  fuel fillers 
rings with settings of plastic fuel filler caps Along with this wonderful gift 
I got her another matching set of fuel senders with gages. Mothers day came 
landing gear and brakes. For Christmas I got her a new table saw. Sometimes I 
get her stuff out of the blue just to surprise her and show her just how much I 
love her. I made her an instrument panel out plywood and let her pick out a 
color to stain it. After she stained it and put on about 8 coats of clear 
finish it  looked beautiful. When the kr  is done I'll  let her pick what ever 
color she wants to paint it.  She's so happy I'm getting all this stuff for her 
she is almost speechless. She did however ask me to get her some real sharp 
kitchen knives and a pair of scissors for the new year -my guess is that 
she wants them for trimming off excess epoxy.
      Mike Turner Jackson Missouri
  - Original Message - 
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Corvaircraft<mailto:corvaircr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 8:03 AM
  Subject: KR> Merry Christmas


  I e-mailed my wife at work and simply told her the three words women love to 
hear. She responded with an e-mail that had the same three words in it. I 
replied back to her stating that I sure was glad she loved me because then she 
would not be so mad when the 18 wheeler pulled up in the drive and unloaded the 
new airplane kit I had bought. I thought this would be an easy way of telling 
her. She replied, "If it does, you will picking staples out of your nuts for a 
year." I cancelled the order. Some women just don't get it.



  Mark Jones (N886MJ)

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KR> Weight and Balance

[Mike Turner]

If you know the location of the mains relative to the leading edge of the of 
the wing you can make this determination.  Let's say the mains are 8" behind 
the leading edge, then they are at the forward limit for the cg envelope. When 
empty and with the tail raised to flight position and the tail weighing nothing 
then your empty weight cg is at the forward limit. When you add weight such as 
pilot/passenger the cg moves back. Fuel, if it's a header tank will move the cg 
back forward so you may be pretty close. 

   Mike Turner 
   Jackson, Mo
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  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 4:38 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Weight and Balance


  On Ken Rand's original KR-2 He had minus 1/2 pound when the tail was up in
  the flying position.  So your plane should be good.
  - Original Message - 
  From: "JIM VANCE" 
<va...@claflinwildcats.com<mailto:va...@claflinwildcats.com>>
  To: "krnet" <kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net>>
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 5:04 AM
  Subject: KR> Weight and Balance


  > I have a standard conventional geared KR-2 powered by a 1915 cc GP VW with
  a rear drive.  I have the battery mounted on the firewall at this time.
  >
  > I'm ready to weigh it, and would like to have it close to the right c of g
  before I rent the scales.  Right now, when I bring the tail up to flight
  attitude, I have almost no weight on the tail.  Is this an indication that
  it is nose heavy?  Should I move the battery to behind the seats before I
  bother with weighing?
  >
  > I would appreciate input from those who have gone before.
  >
  > Thanks.
  >
  > Jim Vance
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KR> gathering / how many days

[Mike Turner]

congregations mark on your first flight  ye ha!! and a big ye ha when you get 
higher

 Mike Turner Jackson Mo
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'KRnet'<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:41 AM
  Subject: RE: RE: KR> gathering / how many days


  Last Sunday, I actually took to the air. I reached a record setting altitude
  of two feet. Went about 20 yards and set her down. I really did not mean to
  do that, it just happened. :-)
  Mark Jones

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KR> KR Parts For Sale

[Mike Turner]

Is the transponder in good working order? Did you buy it used? Has it been 
checked out?  If so I'll take it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Douglas Dorfmeier 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:52 PM
  Subject: KR> KR Parts For Sale


  I have the following KR parts for sale:



  Bendix TR-2061 Transponder w/altitude Reporter (used).  Original cost $295;  
  asking $200.

  I am located in Northern California about an hour north of Sacramento.  
  Email questions to 
douglas_dorfme...@msn.com, or you can call me 
at 
  530-432-2871.

  Doug Dorfmeier

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KR> Re: Screwed, blued and tattoed !!!

[Mike Turner]

Mark I think the nylon screws are still a good idea. I don't think you would 
have had a problem if you had diped the nylon threads in wax first then they 
probely would have come out a lot eaiser.

  Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Jones<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com> 
  To: KR Net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> ; 
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  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:36 PM
  Subject: KR> Re: Screwed, blued and tattoed !!!


  Excellent comments on the self lock crimp on the nut plate. I just finished
  removing the nylon screws starting with the very smallest bit I had and
  working my way up to the crimp size. I then used a tap to start the threads
  till I felt the tap grab the nut plate then I backed off. I then carefully
  inserted a screw in each nut plate and threaded it in till it started to
  grab. Everything seems ok now, thank God !!! Learn from others mistakes and
  save you a lot of grief. I hope someone else will benefit from my mistakes.
  You can bet I will not try the nylon bolt thing again.  Now on to making the
  counterbalance arm.

  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI  USA
  E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com>
  Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
  
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  From: <jscott.pi...@juno.com<mailto:jscott.pi...@juno.com>>
  To: <flyk...@wi.rr.com<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com>>
  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 7:16 PM
  Subject: Re: Screwed, blued and tattoed !!!


  >
  > Bummer.  When I heard about doing it that way I kind of wondered if the
  nylon screws wouldn't get hung up, but I long ago concluded that experience
  doesn't mean anything over ideas on the net.  You should be able to run
  through a drill a bit smaller than the crimp on the self locking threads in
  the nut plate.  The only thing left should be some nylon residue that you
  can be rid of by simply running a screw through the nut plate.
  >
  > FWIW, when I did mine I waxed up some regular screws and ran them through
  the nut plates when I floxed them in place.  They threaded out reasonably
  easily leaving the nut plates ready to use.
  >
  > As you probably already know, running a tap all the way through will ruin
  the self locking capability of the nut plates.  If you can't get a screw
  started after drilling the nylon screws, start a tap into the nut plate, but
  just run it in deep enough that you can back it out and run a regular screw
  through the threads.
  >
  > Good luck.
  >
  > -Jeff
  >
  > -- "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com>> wrote:
  > Yesterday, I floxed in place the Aileron mounting spar into the right
  wing. I was very concerned about the nut plates on the back of the spar
  filling with flox and being clogged. So, I remembered someone stating they
  had put nylon screws in the nutplates to prevent this and theirs easily
  removed after the flox dried. Wellmine did not come out and now my screw
  holes are plugged with nylon bolts. Guess I will have to carefully drill
  them out and tap the nut plates to get the threads clean.anyone know
  of a better way to get them out???  Man, it is always something.
  I gotta get bird in the air before I go crazy.
  >
  > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  > Wales, WI  USA
  > E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com>
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KR> Flying

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner<mailto:fles...@midwest.net> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 7:21 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Flying



  way to go Larry!!  I read somewhere that you're suspossed to re-torque the 
prop bolts on a wood prop after 100 hours. something to do with compression of 
the wood.   just a reminder.   
   Mike Turner


  I did and I hit 100.0 hours on the hour meter while taxiing out for 
  takeoff at Mt.Vernon.  I



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KR> gathering

[Mike Turner]

Larry F.  great job on the gathering best one yet.  Who won the peoples choice 
award ect.. 

  Mike Turner
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KR> Gathering Thursday Night

[Mike Turner]

Mark J ---NO Streaking
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Jones 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:46 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Thursday Night



  - Original Message - 
  From: "larry flesner" >

  > and next to a small lake

  This could get real interestingmoonlight swims.I think I
  am reverting back to my college days.

  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI  USA
  E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
  Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
  
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KR> Gathering Thursday Night

[Mike Turner]

Mark I was never that brave
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  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 8:40 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Thursday Night


  Mike,
  Were you in college with me? You speak as if you have certain memories.

  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI  USA
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  - Original Message - 
  From: "Mike Turner" <aviato...@msn.com<mailto:aviato...@msn.com>>
  To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net>>
  Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Thursday Night


  > Mark J ---NO Streaking
  >   - Original Message - 
  >   From: Mark Jones<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com<mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com>>
  >   To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net>>
  >   Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 8:46 PM
  >   Subject: Re: KR> Gathering Thursday Night
  >
  >
  >
  >   - Original Message - 
  >   From: "larry flesner" 
<fles...@midwest.net<mailto:fles...@midwest.net<mailto:fles...@midwest.net<mailto:fles...@midwest.net>>>
  >
  >   > and next to a small lake
  >
  >   This could get real interestingmoonlight swims.I
  think I
  >   am reverting back to my college days.
  >
  >   Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  >   Wales, WI  USA
  >   E-mail me at 
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  >
  
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KR> Engines

[Mike Turner]

Just curious how far forward of the main spar are your main landing gear?  Have 
you checked your angle of inscindence on the horz stab. ?   
  Mike Turner
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  From: patrusso<mailto:patru...@sover.net> 
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  Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Engines


  What's happening? Tied tail down with a foot of slack, chocked the wheels,
  ran the engine up to 3000RPM and the tail did not lift,. stick full
  forward._Rechecked elevator travel, Okay,  redid weight and balance, CG at
  forward limit._Got about 5 hours taxi time, up to about  35 MPH, still not
  light on the stick. 
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KR> Try and fly or fly and fry?

[Mike Turner]

just a thought, for a given aera of inlet only so much cooling can be cramed in 
per unit of time. would it be possible to get more air in the same area by 
putting vortex generaters arround the inlet openings there-by smothing out 
turbulent air ?
Mike Turner
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  Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 4:14 PM
  Subject: Re: KR> Try and fly or fly and fry?


The
  engine has demonstrated that it will run cool once there is sufficient cool
  air entering the cowl, as in cruise flight.



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KR> Countdown to Gathering

[Mike Turner]

T - 9 days and counting
  - Original Message - 
  From: Mark Jones 
  To: KR Net 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 3:21 PM
  Subject: KR> Countdown to Gathering


  Does anyone know how many days it is till the Gathering?

  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
  Wales, WI

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KR> Looking for Canopy and WAF's

[Mike Turner]

I'll bring the canopy to the gathering.  See you there.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Yosemite Sam<mailto:gu...@centurytel.net> 
  To: KRnet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 9:26 PM
  Subject: KR> Looking for Canopy and WAF's


  Hi, awhile ago I sent I a message for my grandfather looking for a canopy.
  Mike Turner, we are very interested in seeing the canopy you mentioned,
  unfortunatley my grandfather won't make it to the gathering this year but my
  uncle and I are planning on being there as long as its alright to pitch a
  tent.  My next question is for my uncle which is wondering if anyone might
  have some wing attachment fittings (WAF's), specifically for the left aft
  longeron?




  Thanks,
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KR> To The Airport

[Mike Turner]

Way to go Mark, I see you sanded a hole in both your knees

   Mike Turner
   Jackson, Mo
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  Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 2:36 PM
  Subject: KR> To The Airport


  Here is a link of some photos of moving my KR to the airport.
  
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  Mark Jones (N886MJ)
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  Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at   
  
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KR> Looking for canopy

[Mike Turner]

Todd, I live in Jackson, Missouri in SE part of the state. I will be at the 
gathering 

Mike Turner
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  Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 5:46 PM
  Subject: RE: KR> Looking for canopy





  Todd I got one, It has a green tint but has a piece chiped off one of the
  rear bottom corners about 1" x 1". It still has the protective coating on
  it. If you are going to the gathering, I will bring it with me. You can have
  it for $100 or trade it for something.

     Mike Turner





  Great! we're planning on going to the reunion but my grandfather just had
  back surgery so it will depend on how he's doing.  If it doesn't work out
  we're wondering what part of the world your in?  I'm in WI, and he's in TN,
  maybe we're neighbors.  Hope to see everyone next month and thanks for the
  replies



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KR> Looking for canopy

[Mike Turner]

Todd I got one, It has a green tint but has a piece chiped off one of the rear 
bottom corners about 1" x 1". It still has the protective coating on it. If you 
are going to the gathering, I will bring it with me. You can have it for $100 
or trade it for something. 

   Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
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  To: KRNet<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 6:04 PM
  Subject: KR> Looking for canopy


  Hi, my grandfather is building a KR2 and recently dropped his canopy and
  cracked it.  He's asked me to check around for anyone that would have an
  extra or recommendations on where to get them.




  Thanks,
  Todd



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KR> Dynon EFIS

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dana Overall<mailto:bo12...@hotmail.com> 
  To: kr...@mylist.net<mailto:kr...@mylist.net> 
  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 7:30 PM
  Subject: RE: KR> Dynon EFIS


  Dana, if you're going to be pitching steam gages out the window just make 
sure you pitch them so I can catch them!  see you at the gathering

    Mike Turner

  As for backups.put a Trio Avionics EZ Pilot autopilot in for 
  under $1000 that has functions of a wing leveler, a electrical system off 
  Aeroelectric.com using battery buss, main buss and essential buss, internal 
  battery in the Dynon and pitch the old steam gauges out the window.  Lots of 
  things have to go wrong all at the same time...in 
  IFR for you to have your ticket punched by the big ol ATC guy upstairs.


  Dana Overall
  Richmond, KY i39
  RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
  Finish kit
  13B Rotary. Hangar flying my Dynon.
  http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg<http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero1.jpg>
  http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg<http://rvflying.tripod.com/aero3.jpg>
  
http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg<http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackrudder.jpg>
  do not archive



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KR> the "killer turn"

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:28 AM
  Subject: KR> the "killer turn"



  Larry I think it is important to point out that extreme care must be taken 
when trying to roll wings level when that low wing is very near a stall as the 
down deflected aleron will increase drag and A0A and make it quite possible to 
stall that low wing. I can only stress getting the stick forward first then 
bring the wings level slowely.
      Mike Turner

  # 2 (the best if terrain is not a concern) is to forget trying to
  save the turn and the approach.  Roll to wings level so that
  all lift generated can be used to check the rate of decent.
  With all lift generate at 90 degrees to the ground we don't
  need such a high A of A to generate enough lift to check
  our decent at the slower airspeed.  Fly out of the situation
  and do a better job on the approach next time.  Keep the
  A of A below the stall angle and you won't find youself
  eating dirt. 

  Larry Flesner




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KR> canopy swap

[Mike Turner]

Brian, I have clear canopy that I got from a guy at our EAA chapter. It still 
has the protective coating on it but I think it is for a kr2 not the kr2s. 

 Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Kraut 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:46 PM
  Subject: KR> canopy swap


  I have a new tinted Rand 2S canopy that I would like to trade for a untinted
  one.  I realize it is a long shot, but if anyone has a clear one and wants a
  tinted one let me know.

  Brian Kraut
  Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
  www.engalt.com


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KR> Airshow

[Mike Turner]

Well it's Friday so I'll tell you about the Cape Girardeau, MO "Heros & 
Legends"  2004 Air Festival.
July 10 & 11.Airport identifyer is CGI.  This is a good airshow.  Lots of 
Military, Warbirds and some
 home builts.  Aeroshell Aerobatic Team,  US Air Force F-15 Demo Team, Dawn 
Patrol, Flight Simulators,  
Dodge Ram Jet, etc.   For more info:  www.capeairfestival.comNice show  to 
fly your KRs to.




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KR> Sanding

[Mike Turner]

The net is so quiet and it's Friday, so I thought I'd let you all know what I'm 
doing.  Sanding, sanding, sanding   and sanding.   Mike Turner





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KR> Weapons Release News

[Mike Turner]

Larry,  you get this set up there is a fly-in at Dexter Mo. airport on May 22. 
They are having a bomb drop and spot landing contest. 

   Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 10:27 PM
  Subject: KR> Weapons Release News


  >The project that I'm working on (X-45)recently made an
  >aviation milestone by atonomously releasing a Small
  >Diameter Smart Bomb (SSB).  From 35,000 ft., flying at
  >over .65 mach, the inert bomb stuck within inches of
  >the center of the target(an old 2 1/2 ton truck). 
  >Scott Cable
  

  Scott,

  Please forward info on bomb weight, dimentions, number of
  hard points required, and other suggestions for mounting, 
  release, targeting, and lunch box size required to sneak one
  of those babys out of the plant.

  There is a Q-200 I'd like to take out before he has a chance
  to get airborne. :-) :-)

  Larry Flesner



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KR> Make your WAFs and wings inspectable!!

[Mike Turner]

Serge, in regards to touque I don't have the plans in front of me right now but 
I don't remember a value being set for torque other than not crushing the wood 
by getting the waf bolts too tight. So if the wood is not crushed and the bolts 
are not loose and other than checking for corrosion I don't know what else 
could be expected of you?
Mike Turner




















  - Original Message - 
  From: Serge F. Vidal 
  To: 'KRnet' 
  Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:46 AM
  Subject: KR> Make your WAFs and wings inspectable!!


  Netters,

  This is the latest episode of my story of a South-African built KR2 that I
  am now trying to register in France. This piece will come with a word of
  warning: guys, make sure your WAFs and wings will remain inspectable in the
  future!!

  I went to Orleans this week-end, and spent a few hours working on my plane,
  with the aim of preparing it for the inspection of all critical areas, as
  agreed with the local inspectors. Let's say I had no success.

  - First of all, my attempt to drill inspection holes along the spars was a
  mess.  I used the wrong drill, it hadn't got a variator; the spar end
  surfaces were not flat either... oh well, never mind, I'll find a better
  idea for next time.

  - Second, I got a very bad surprise while I was trying to drill inspection
  holes for the WAFs nuts and bolts. Not only had they been painted over, but
  also, some of them had been epoxied over!

  I suspect the reason is when long range aluminium fuel tanks were installed
  in the leading edge of the stubwings, the guy who did it found it convenient
  to repaint the bolts, ; then, he moved the stringer, and epoxied it in place
  without bothering about the bolts...

  Now, this is bad, because it is now impossible to check the bolts for
  corrosion, let alone to check their torque, which is what the inspector
  requested.

  So, I'm back a few steps. I guess I will have to find a way to remove and
  replace those bolts!

  On the bright side, the experimental club has got a Jodel D18 for hire, at a
  bargain proce, so that will keep me busy!

  Serge Vidal
  KR2 ZS-WEC
  - Taildragger, VW powered (2.4 liter, dual electronic ignition)
  - Total aircraft time: 390h
  - Aircraft hangared at: Orleans, France
  - Pilot moaning in: Tunis, Tunisia
  E-mail: serge.vi...@ate-international.com
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KR>Pictures/Wicks

[Mike Turner]

I picked some stuff up at wicks and talked to Scott Wick today. He said Wicks 
is putting their new catalog together and is in need of some pictures of 
projects and builders for their cover. This is a good chance to promote the 
KRs. Pictures can be sent by e-mail to their web site. 

   Mike Turner
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KR>calender

[Mike Turner]

Count me in on a calender or 2 also.

  Mike Turner
  Jackson, Mo.
  - Original Message - 
  From: milfr...@aol.com 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:36 AM
  Subject: KR>(no subject)


 I am definitely interested in a calendar or two,finished 
  flying aircraft,I presume.


   Fritz Hady KR-2
   Mt Top, Pa.
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KR>engines

[Mike Turner]

I've got a 0-145 lyc and the overhaul manual. There are three types of the 
0-145 a,b and c models. The a and b models are rated 65hp at 2500rpm. The c 
model rated 75hp at 3200rpm. The only difference between b and c models is that 
the c has an internal reduction gear that reduces the prop speed from 3200 to 
arround 2100 I think ??(I don't have the manual with me-- doing this from 
memeroy which ain't too good lately). I think the manual said weight with 
carb--mags ect.. is 183lbs not counting a starter. I have a b model-- the 2 
mags by themselves weight 15 lbs. I think it's just too heavy for a kr2. I'm 
still undesided what engine I will use on mine. I plan to build everything I 
can without the engine, do a w/b then deside on engine type. At the moment I'm 
leaning toward the EJ22 suberue or the corvair.

 Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Fuenzalida 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 4:08 PM
  Subject: KR>engines


  Just a question for the group.  It may be premature (since I have a long way 
to go), but I noticed a Lycoming 0 145 for sale on Ebay.  Would that be an 
acceptable power plant for a KR2S?  It is a 65 horsepower and weighs about 165 
pounds.  Any thoughts?
  Ray


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KR>IT PASSED

[Mike Turner]

Congraulations Larry on your inspection. Can't wait to see it. Is that 55 
staute miles or nautical miles? If your out flying drop in to Cape Girardeau 
Mo. sometime. (cgi) ---only 48 statute from you. Let me know when and I'll be 
there.
Good luck on your first flight!!
 Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:03 PM
  Subject: KR>IT PASSED




  Netters,

  My KR passed it final inspection today with only 4 minor things
  to do / correct.

  1. label my outside canopy latch handle for "open" and "closed".
That item is done.
  2. A slight re-routing of my fuel line from the gascolator to the
  carb.  I plan to relocate my gascolator a few inches to take
  care of that item.  Estimated time 1 hour.
  3. Install a stretched spring in my crankcase vent line to the 
  air/oil separator to keep it from colapsing.  Estimated time
  10 minutes.
  4.  Re-safety my prop bolts with .040 wire instead of the .032
   I had used.  He indicated he had seen the lighter wire 
   fail but never the .040.  Estimated time 30 minutes.

  THEN IT IS READY TO FLY!!!

  The aircraft inspection took about 30 minutes and the paperwork
  was maybe 1.5 hours.  The inspector's only comment was " you're
  going to have a nice airplane".  I promised to stop in and see
  him on my way to visit Mark Langford when I get the time flown
  off.  He was going to give me a 50 mile flight test area but I asked
  him to include one of my favorite airports at 54 miles.  He said he
  would just make it 55 miles instead.

  What he looked for:
  - general workmanship
  - use of proper hardware and the correct use of that hardware.  Bolts
  the right length, only steel locknuts in the engine compartment,
  turnbuckles safety wired, etc.
  - All required placards and all controls, switches, knobs, etc., labeled
  for operation.
  - He suggested I install a heat shield on the bottom end of my brake line to
   shield it from the heat of the brake.  My line is nylon. He didn't
  write that one up but I have an easy fix in mind and will probably 
  take care of that item before first flight.

  It will be a few days before I have time to finish correcting the items
  and the weather is forcasted to be bad for a few days so it will
  probably be at least the weekend before first flight.  I'll keep
  you posted.

  Larry ( proud owner of a LEGAL KR2 ) Flesner
  Carterville, Illinois




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KR>Vacuum Source

[Mike Turner]

I would to see those pictures of venturi in the wing root also.

Mike Turner
KR2WS
Jackson, Mo
  - Original Message - 
  From: jsmon...@aol.com 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:03 PM
  Subject: Re: KR>Vacuum Source


  If you find the pictures of the venturi in the wing root... please e-mail 
  them to me also!!!

  Thanks
  John S. Monday
  KR2S
  Laguna Beach, CA
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KR>Name for KR

[Mike Turner]

N-Da-Flesh---with approciate nose art

Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: JIM VANCE 
  To: krnet 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:44 AM
  Subject: KR>Name for KR


  Brian,

  How about "Miss Dapproach." 

  Jim Vance
  
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KR>tanks in the outboard wings would be easier on the wafs

[Mike Turner]

That's =/- 4.67 Gs at 1200lbs so it's best to be carefull with those high speed 
passes with a 4g pull-up especially if a sharp banking turn is involved.

 Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 5:14 PM
  Subject: KR>tanks in the outboard wings would be easier on the wafs 





  >According to my build manual,  the KR was designed for
  >+/-7 G's.
  Scott Cable
  

  Scott,

  That's +/- 7 G's at 800 pounds.  How many KR's have an
  all up flying weight of 800 pounds??

  Larry Flesner



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KR>polyester/epoxy

[Mike Turner]

It is my understanding that there are three types of resins, polyester, 
vinalester and epoxy resin. Epoxy resins will not bond to polyester products 
but will bond to vinal-ester "sort of". The same applies to polyester products 
not bonding to epoxy products but will bond to vinal-ester products "sort of".  
So what you have is vinal-ester which will bond to both. So according to theory 
if you want to bond polyester to an epoxy product you would have to use a 
vinal-ester layer between the two products. This would not be as strong a bond 
as epoxy to epoxy or polyester to polyester because of the makeup of the 
molecules involved. Think of a vinal-ester molecule as being 1/2 poly-ester and 
1/2 epoxy therefore you will get only half of the bonding strength.
The above is based on information from "Fiberglass Composite materials" 
written by Forbes Aird

      Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Heath 
  To: kr...@mylist.net ; larry.ca...@comcast.net 
  Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:57 PM
  Subject: Re: KR>polyester/epoxy


  I read a very comprehensive article on a web site forwarded to the NET,
  recently, that states the opposite of that.  He states that it is a very
  good filler and that he applies it over a micro and resin filler.  One of
  the resins that he uses if West Systems.

  This can get very confusing.

  Is SuperFill an Epoxy?  All I know is that it is two part. 

  N64KR

  Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

  da...@kr-builder.org

  See you in Mt. Vernon - 2004 - KR Gathering

  See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic
  See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org

  ---Original Message---

  From: larry.ca...@comcast.net; KRnet
  Date: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:52:40 PM
  To: 'KRnet'
  Subject: KR>polyester/epoxy

  DO NOT use polyester resin to build your KR (period)

  Polyester Resin, as stated below, cannot be properly bonded to/or with other
  adhesives.

  So the statement "There is nothing wrong with building a plane using
  polyester", has to be wrong on it's face.

- Polyester Resin comes NO WHERE near having the strength of epoxy.


  Larry A Capps
  Naperville, IL



  -Original Message-

  I have spoken to several commercial boat builders
  about

  polyester
  epoxy.

  There is nothing wrong with building a plane using
  polyester

  Essentially the impression that I got
  dont mix the two.


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KR>KR name

[Mike Turner]

Larry, I named mine "The Miss Carolyn" after my wife, That way I can justify 
the cost ha ha. One name I had considered since I'm in the gum business was 
"Bubble Gum One" but that got rejected by Miss Carolyn.

    Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brian Kraut 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 7:16 PM
  Subject: KR>KR name


  Thanks to everyone that suggested a name for my KR.  There were some real 
good ones, but nothing that exactly fit both her looks and her personality yet. 
 I have been thinking Miss America, but that is way over used.



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KR>Wicks

[Mike Turner]

I am amazed how fast Wicks can get stuff out. I put an order in Wed  
morning and got it the next day, except for an order of 5/8 x 5/8 spruce which 
they called to let me know that would take a couple of days as they were temp 
out. At 6:30 pm today the ups guy showed up with the wood. I also like the fact 
that when you have a question about a product they have people who know 
something about the products they are selling. If they don't have an immediate 
answer they do their best to get the answer from their suppliers. I am very 
happy with Wicks!!

 Way to go larry on your taxi runs and good luck on your impending maiden 
flight 
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KR builders and pilots 
  Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 7:08 PM
  Subject: KR>Wicks


On the other hand, if
  >you DO need one or two bolts, Wicks is kind enough to send you little light
  >stuff like that US Mail, so you only have to pay 37 or 74 cents for postage,
  >rather than $5 UPS for a practically empty box.
  >Mark Langford, Huntsville, AL
  ++=

  When I started to taxi test my project I connected my electric
  hour meter leads so my hour meter would start recording the
  time.  I quickly noticed it was inop.  I called Wick's one 
  afternoon at 3:00PM and my new hour meter was in my mailbox
  the next morning at 10:30AM !!  I only live 100 miles from Wick's
  but I was still impressed with both Wick's and the Postal Service.

  Larry - (still waiting to get my final inspection) - Flesner

  P.S.  On one of my last taxi runs I managed to keep the
  tail up for 500 feet or more and the KR on the runway.
  I have had several one or two second "powerful pucker"
  periods but for the most part the 30 or so runs up and
  down the runway have been uneventful.  I have found that
  I can set the throttle to 2200 rpm with the brakes set and
  bring the tail up and balance it on the mains for as long
  as I want.  The KR and I are both ready to get some distance
  between us and the ground !!



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KR>Building wings/confused?

[Mike Turner]

 If I was planning to glass the other side of the wing off the aircraft I 
think I would glass the vertical surfaces of the foam ribs prior to detaching 
the wings in order to cut down on the amount of flexing of the wings.

   Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:50 PM
  Subject: KR>Building wings/confused?


  >As for holding the wing true, mark your cord lines on the inboard
  >and outboard ribs 
  >Larry Flesner
  +++

That is also what helped
  to take the flex out of the wing when removed with only one
  side glassed.

  SORRY ABOUT THAT!

  Larry Flesner



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KR>Building wings - Off the plane?

[Mike Turner]

Ron If you haven't mounted your wafs yet you could put them on the outer wings 
spars,  build them complete to your specications bolt the short wing wafs on 
the fittings you already have in place then line them up to the short wings and 
drill your holes through the spars and attach them last. That would garrentee 
they will fit.
   Hope this makes sense---In other words build it backwards

   Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron Freiberger 
  To: KRnet 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 8:20 AM
  Subject: RE: KR>Building wings - Off the plane?


  You failed to understand that I don't have enough room to build them that
  way.

  Ron Freiberger
  mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com

  -Original Message-
  From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
  Dan Heath
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 5:43 AM
  To: kr...@mylist.net
  Subject: KR>Building wings - Off the plane?

  I suggest that you build yourself a Flip-O-Matic, ala Mark Langford.  You
  will need it anyway.  You must be building the top side on the plane.
  Carefully remove it, flip your plane, turn the wing over, put it back on and
  continue on your way.  If you don't build it on the plane, you won't be sure
  it is right, until it is done.  then it is too late.



  N64KR



  Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC



  da...@kr-builder.org



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KR>First Flight for N4027Y

[Mike Turner]

  Roger congradulation on the first flight, I'm building a kr2s, have it in 
the boat stage. I too am planning on the sub ej22. What did your empty weight 
come out to? Could you tell us at what weight you are test flying this plane 
and what kind and size of prop are you using?  Got any pictures??
  - Original Message - 
  From: roger mitchell 
  To: KR builders and pilots 
  Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:44 AM
  Subject: Re: KR>First Flight for N4027Y


  congradulations   hope you can sleep tonight  
- Original Message - 
From: ronev...@aol.com 
To: kr...@mylist.net 
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 12:28 AM
Subject: KR>First Flight for N4027Y


Ladies and Gentlemen of the KRNET:

It is my proud honor to announce that after 3 1/2 years of dedicated 
construction, my KR-2S with Subaru EJ-22 has taken flight.
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KR>Project for sale... half price day

[Mike Turner]

 Ron, if you decide to part it out I would be interested in the insts and 
panel also the landing gear.

 Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron Freiberger 
  To: KR Builders and Flyers 
  Cc: jfredhens...@comcast.net 
  Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:01 PM
  Subject: KR>Project for sale... half price day


  I've decided to sell my KR2 project.  You can see details at
  http://home.swfla.rr.com/ronmartha/ in the Ron'sKR2 directory.  This
  aircraft was started as a stretch KR2 with 14 inches added aft, and 5 inches
  forward. Width is standard, and controls are set to allow single or dual
  operation.  Spars are finished and wing parts ready to foam.  Aluminum tanks
  <3> and set up for good CG control.  See detailed description at KR2.rtf
  Lots of pictures, in a somewhat organized grouping.



  I've spent $11,317 somewhat wisely, and will sell for half price ($5653)
  until mid November.  Then, if not sold, I will part it out on eBay when I
  get back to Florida in January.  See $'s invested at KR INVEST.rtf


  If you want to see what I've built previously,  see MY Planes.doc



  Ron Freiberger
  mailto: rfreiber...@swfla.rr.com



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KR>progress report news

[Mike Turner]

 Larry, where is your baggage compartment, behind the seat or in the front 
deck area? It would be better if the cg was a little forward but you have 2 
things going for you in the configuration you have now. 1) you have that extra 
24" of strech which should help in the pitch area. 2) in the landing phase you 
will proberly have the belly board down which will tend to pitch the nose down. 
Have you done any high speed taxi test with the board down? It would be 
interesting to see if the tail wants to come up. 

  Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KR builders and pilots 
  Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2003 11:27 PM
  Subject: KR>progress report news



  First the good news.  I found out today that I will become
  GRANDPA for the first time next May!  Awsome!

  Progress report:

  I weighed the KR today.  It is a 24 inch stretch with an
  0-200, 600X6 main gear, 6 inch tailwheel, wing tanks
  only, Cessna flap motor on the speed brake and basiclly
  just a HEAVY bird.  We used some very accurate electronic 
  scales. I'm using the same C.G. range as the standard KR
  and will approach the rear C.G. with caution during testing.
  Here is the long and short of it:

  My C.G. range is __53.5 to 61.5 inches

  Total empty weight including oil,
  intercom and headset 764 lbs.@53.4 inches
  Pilot (me) at 204 lbs._968 lbs.@57.9 inches
  Fuel (25 gal@6.2 p/g=155lbs._ 1123 lbs.@58.8 inches
  Pass @200 lbs._1323 lbs.@61.2 inches

  I'll have to keep an eye on my baggage/passanger weight.
  My C.G. will move forward 1 inch from full fuel to empty fuel.
  As a frame of reference, Marty Robert's KR has an empty
  weight of 780 pounds as of the last Gathering.

  Jeff Scott has a KR basiclly identical to mine but he used
  the Continental mount from RR ( I think) and his C.G. came
  out an inch or two better than mine.  I'm using a Hapi VW
  mount with a 1 inch spacer.  I believe the 2s moves the wing 
  back 2 inches or stated another way, moved the firewall 
  forward 2 inches. If my fuselage were built to 2s dimensions 
  I'd be right on the money.

  I need to get my "N" number applied and get it inspected.
  I've had it on the runway for some taxi test.  I've had the
  speed up to maybe 35 mph but have yet to lift the tail.
  I'll keep you posted.

  Larry Flesner



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KR>glide ratio

[Mike Turner]

Does this make the KR a powered glider??

Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KR builders and pilots 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:53 PM
  Subject: KR>glide ratio


  I have 
  >had my bird to 14,500 feet and still had good response and climbing at 300 
  >fpm indicating 120 mph. It sure was cold up there. I put the engine to
  idle, set 
  >the speed at 95 mph and glided back to fort Lauderdale exec which was 70 
  >miles away. 
  >Steve
  ++

  Steve,

  That would be a 25.5 to 1 glide ratio !  Are you sure you idle 
  wasn't set a bit fast !!  :-)

  Larry Flesner



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KR>glide ratio

[Mike Turner]

dan, what I was referring to was the mim. requirment to be considered a glider. 
I seem to recall somewhere (I could be wrong) that the FAA (friendly aviator 
association) required at least a 20 to 1 glide ratio ie..747 ect..
Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Heath 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:23 PM
  Subject: Re: KR>glide ratio


  I do believe that there was a KR1B, but I don't know if any were ever built.


  But, no, the KR is no glider.

  N64KR

  Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC

  da...@kr-builder.org

  See you in Red Oak - 2003

  See our KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Click on the pic
  See our EAA Chapter 242 at http://EAA242.org

  ---Original Message---

  From: KR builders and pilots
  Date: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:17:54 PM
  To: KR builders and pilots
  Subject: Re: KR>glide ratio

  Does this make the KR a powered glider??

   Mike Turner
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KR>pneumatic 6" tailwheel

[Mike Turner]

Larry there are some electric scooters with pneumatic tires at  
http:www.tvhaseverything.com/elsces5.html


   Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: larry flesner 
  To: KR builders and pilots 
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 8:30 AM
  Subject: KR>pneumatic 6" tailwheel


  >I have a 6" semi-pneumatic one on my "Flying Squirrel" but it hasn't flown 
  >yet so I don't know how much softer this one is than a solid. 
  >Oscar Zuniga
  ++

  Oscar,

  Thanks for the offer.  I think I have a 6" pneumatic now if I can
  iron out some details like finding a bearing with 1/2" I.D. and 
  7/8" O.D. and 1/4" thick.  Each time I think I've cleared a
  hurdle I trip on another detail but I keep getting closer to what
  I want.

  Larry Flesner  -  THREE WEEKS TO RED OAK !!



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KR>Isn't that PCB idea great?

[Mike Turner]

  I would think the PBC would have the same strength or better than the 
plywood but I would want to know what kind of resin was used in the manafacture 
of the PBC. If it's made from a vinal ester product, then that's what I would 
use to glue it to the wood. If it's made from an epoxy resin I would use an 
epoxy resin glue. It's not a question of the type of glue used for the wood, it 
has to do with the bonding properties between the glue and the PBC.

 Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alexander Birca (MD/RMD) 
  To: 'Robert Stone' ; 'KR builders and pilots' 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 6:57 AM
  Subject: RE: KR>Isn't that PCB idea great?



  Robert, you will not believe, but it is a real country :-)
  Just that it is a ve-e-ery small. A exUSSR republic, have a look 
  on the map, between Romanian and Ukraine.
  Do not ask where is Romania and Ukraine :-)

  BR,
  Alex Birca
  Moldova

  -Original Message-
  From: Robert Stone [mailto:rsto...@hot.rr.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:50 PM
  To: KR builders and pilots
  Subject: Re: KR>Isn't that PCB idea great?


  Where in the world is Moldova?

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KR>new KR builder - spar question

[Mike Turner]

keith what you read is correct. You get a full web on the rear face of the 
forward spar and a full web on the forward face of the rear spar (outer wings). 
You also get a web on the front face of the front spar for the first 12" only. 
and you get a web on the back of the rear spar for 12" only. You don't need 
that extra web it only adds weight
     Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: red-bri...@juno.com 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:57 AM
  Subject: KR>new KR builder - spar question



  Hello,

  Ok, so I've wanted to build a KR-1 since October, 1974 (yes, I still have the 
magazine) and I just now got around to ordering the plans. They have arrived 
and I am carefully reading the assembly instructions, trying to visualize this 
project. 

  Step 4.2.10 includes this note: "the front spars have web full length only on 
the aft face. The aft spars have web full length only on the forward face."

  Huh? The accompanying drawings make no indication of this, and, if indeed 
this is the case, where does the web stop? Do other builders do this? Or, is 
this, like Monnett's "weight saving" spar holes in the Sonerii, advice best 
ignored? Should the web be full length of the spar on both faces?

  Thanks in advance. I'm sure I will have many more questions in the comming 
months and years.

  Keith C. Krumwiede
  Rosedale, IN

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KR>new KR builder - spar question

[Mike Turner]

  Keith, you need to read the plans and manual very carefully and then read 
them again. It's the little things that'll get you. For example be carefull to 
run the grain of the plywood vertical not horz. for the spars. It makes a 
difference!
 Mike Turner
  - Original Message - 
  From: red-bri...@juno.com 
  To: kr...@mylist.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:22 PM
  Subject: Re: KR>new KR builder - spar question



  Thanks, Mike. The plans did not make this clear. Were I already building, I'd 
be starting on effort no. 2. (I know. I wouldn't be the first.) I've already 
learned a great deal from this and other KR sites.


  Keith C. Krumwiede

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KR>Register and question--folding wings

[Mike Turner]

 Colin: In order to fold the wings with the bolts of the wing attach 
fittings, the bolts would all have to be in the same plane and all 4 bolts in 
line with each other which they are not. The wing attach fittings are in the 
vertical plane but at different elevations due to the angle of incindence of 
the wing. When you try to lift the outer portion of the wing you will put the 
hinge points in a bind right away. Without a re-design of the wing attach 
fittings I would not try it. Another method of folding wings was shown in the 
march edition of sport Aviation on the Dyke Delta. 
Mike Turner 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Colin 
  To: KR builders and pilots 
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:47 PM
  Subject: KR>Register and question


  Netters,
  I bought an aircraft that was 80% complete and I registered it under the 
previous builder's number (his social) and transferred the N number to me, no 
problem. If it is a first time register, any number can be assigned so long as 
no one else has it.
   Second: Has anyone tried to fold the KR2 wings by just using the upper 
bolts of the wing attach fittings and securing the wings vertically? Other than 
the height, this seems the simplest.
  Colin Rainey KR2(td)
  crain...@cfl.rr.com
  Sanford, Florida
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KR>Oshkosh

[Mike Turner]

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Faughn 
  To: 'KR builders and pilots' 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:44 PM
  Subject: KR>Oshkosh


   I want to thank Jim Faughn, Larry Fleshner and others for coming to the 
Cape Girardeau airshow. I'm looking forward to Jim's vido and Larry's first 
flight in his KR2s in the near furture. My Kr2s is under construction and sits 
in a warehouse about 10 miles north of the Cape airport. Next time you guys are 
arround I would like for you to take a look at it. I would have taken you guys 
there but just couldn't find the time as the airshow had me pretty well tied 
up. 

   Mike 
Turner 

  I'm heading off tomorrow at noon for a quick trip to San Francisco but
  wanted to update you on Oshkosh. I'll be flying in on either Sunday
  (preferable) or Monday and all KR's that aren't camping should try to
  park in the automotive engine area. I am working on updating the
  presentation for Forum, with Mark's help, and have some pretty exciting
  video I will be using for talking through the landing presentation. This
  last Sunday, I took a friend who is in the video business (like Video
  Bob) and he went for a 1st flight in my KR to the Cape Girardeau
  airshow. The entire purpose was to get a video that showed what it was
  like in the phases of landing a KR. We just finished editing the video
  and it exceeds my expectations. For those that have never flown in a KR,
  this is as real as it gets. We did a really good landing and then on the
  way back, I let him know we were going to do a botched approach that we
  would have to correct for. This required a good slip and a bit of a
  bounce that was all captured out of the canopy. Pretty good friend to do
  this with me! Anyway besides the landing sequences, you will also see
  the KR up close and personal with an F-18, F16 and a Blackhawk
  helicopter  on the ground. They also gave me permission to make
  closed traffic, a low approach and an abrupt vertical move to leave the
  area which is also on tape. This video will be shown at our talk at
  Oshkosh. By the way, I got to see several KR people which was why I went
  in the first place. Thanks for the hospitality Mike and Larry. For those
  that aren't going, you will have to wait. My friend, also named Bob, has
  volunteered, once I'm back, to finish the edit with my narration of the
  landings and then encode it for delivery on the Web. Hopefully by late
  August.

  Take care and I hope to see everyone at Oshkosh.

  Jim
  N891JF

  Jim Faughn 
  4323D Laclede Ave.
  St. Louis, MO 63108
  (314)652-7659
  Mailto:jfau...@mvp.net
  Web Site  http://jfaughn.com


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KR>Cape Girardeau, MO Airshow

[Mike Turner]

Hero's & Legends Airshow at Cape Girardeau, MO   (CGI)  !!!  For more info go 
to www.showme.net/capeairfestival.com
July 11th-13th.  A really big show.  

Bring your KR's.  




Spin the prop, light the fire, dance among the starsN428CM

KR>Caape Girardeau, MO Air Festival

[Mike Turner]

Spin the prop, light the fire, dance among the starsN428CM