Re: [lace] Securing knots in silk

Hi Liz: If you’ve done Japanese embroidery and have finished it with wheat paste, then you will know whether or not the paste will show. It might depend on the colour of thread you’ve used. Even clear glue will make a noticeable dark spot on the thread; I don’t think wheat paste will do that.

Re: [lace] Book recommended

Hi David - I’m with you. Weavers have a few techniques they call lace - in which they create regular patterns of holes in the cloth as they weave it. So there are weavers who weave lace. However, that’s not what Lauren Chater is talking about in her book. I looked up her publisher’s (Simon

Re: [lace] Book recommended

Hi Ilske, Good suggestion, but our problem is the other way around. It’s not the word lace, it’s that the author uses words associated with weaving, knitting and embroidery - all very different things - to describe the same thing. So, in your example, your Spitze is either Strick- or Häkel-

Re: [lace] Belgium in WWI: Flour Sacks and Lace

Didn’t work for me, either, but I discovered that’s because there was a spelling error in putting up the page! Hit this link for information on war lace in “Beligan” https://laceioli.ning.com/forum/topics/beligan-war-lace-from-wwi

Re: [lace] Guttermans Threads

There are several different kinds of Gutterman threads, in both synthetic and natural fibres. Gutterman’s silk and their 100% cotton work well for lace. I haven’t worked with any of their polyester threads. Adele > Are Guttermans threads suitable for lacemaking? My local haberdashery has >

Re: [lace] Mystery thread

I let Google translate this page and it turned out quite well: https://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en=nl=http://www.ethesis.net/aa lst_textiel/deel_I/aalst_textiel_deel_I_2_g.htm=search

Re: [lace] Design program

I learned on Adobe Illustrator, which cost a lot but I loved it. Then Apple upgraded their operating systems and I lost my version, and couldn’t get it back because by then Illustrator was subscription-only and I did not want to go that route. So I had no good computer graphics program for a

Re: [lace] Book recommended

Hi Jeri: I searched the title and author and immediately came up with the publisher’s page for the book: http://www.simonandschuster.com.au/books/The-Lace-Weaver/Lauren-Chater/978192 5596335 As you can see,

Re: [lace] Alice Howell hacked?

Oh, that and so much more. Thank goodness we are not all as innocent as we used to be! Instead, we ask questions like: - why is Alice trying to get me to buy a gift card at 5:42 a.m. Pacific time? - Alice has a full life and many friends. Why would she need me to buy a gift card for her? - Even

Re: [lace] English point ground lace

I always think it’s a little like cooking: Seven people make Irish Stew. This one cuts her carrots crosswise into buttons, that one quarters her carrots and cuts them into chunks. Everybody’s potatoes look a little different. This one leaves out one ingredient. That one likes to put in plenty

Re: [lace] Lace Advent Calendar 2018

I clicked on the window for December 1 about ten times, then refreshed the screen, then clicked on it another couple of times, and then, finally, realized that it is not December 1st yet. Looking forward to the calendar as always, Jean! Adele > Once again David and I have produced a Lace

Re: [lace] Teachers or no Teachers

Your lace may very well be as good as, or even better than, lace made by someone who has had a teacher. Or not. Some people can have the best teachers and still produce bad lace. Some don’t tension well. Some have short attention spans. Some people can’t see as well as they think they can.

Re: [lace] A Rembrandt discovered due to the lace

OK. I’ve been reading Santina Levey this morning, and I think the collar in the Jan Six XI Rembrandt is indeed bobbin lace. Read Levey's remarks on Flemish bobbin lace on p. 23 and take a good look at plates 112 and 135 - 140. The Flemish falling collars are specifically mentioned as being made

Re: [lace] What's in a thread

I watched it on YouTube with the slides - really interesting. Thank you so much for posting, Veronika. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > Textile historian Angharad Rixon has posted a talk, with slides, about > the use of non-linen threads in 17th century needle lace: > >

Re: [lace] Bobbin question

I think we need a woodworker to chime in here, but I believe that bobbins that are not professionally made may also be rough because of the type of wood used. A coarse-grained splintery softwood is never going to give you the finish of a dense hardwood. Or so I understand. Adele West Vancouver,

Re: [lace] Downton Lace

I’m also thinking about how lace was traded - lacemakers were paid by the length they made, and they didn’t make 50 yards of it in one long length the way machines do. It was cut off when the tally-man came, so all lace would be in fairly short pieces - of varying lengths. Looking at the

Re: [lace] Lassen question

My understanding is that lassen is used when the end of a pattern overlaps the beginning; and the patterns therefore match. This would have nothing to do with corners; it would be done in the one place in the lace piece where the end overlapped the beginning. So, if you were making a hankie

Re: [lace] Honiton? Beds?

I’m not sure, but I’d say it was Beds because it not only doesn’t have raised & rolled work, it also doesn’t have the coarse thread that I connect with Honiton lace. Also it looks to me like it is made all-in-one - the motifs and the ground made at the same time. Adele > On Jun 18, 2019, at

Re: [lace] Lassen question

I always think of the word “lash” as in “lash together” Adele > Possibly the logic for offering the term "weld" is that two pieces of > It would be interesting to know the etymology of "lassen" - maybe has a > Latin origin. "Lasso" comes to mind, as also the root word of "lace" but I > could be

[lace] Wedding lace

Good morning! I’ve got a question: Does anybody know anything about antique wedding lace? I have a piece of Duchesse lace that is approx. 13 inches (33 cm) square. It is filled with flowers and other motifs that have to do with weddings and fertility. So, I’m pretty sure it was used as part of

Fwd: [lace] Wedding lace

I have uploaded a photo of the “wedding handkerchief” to the Vancouver Lace Club website: https://vanlaceclub.files.wordpress.com/2019/06/weddinglace1.jpg It’s not up on Flickr; I couldn’t figure out how to do that.

Re: [lace] On Arachne since 1996

I think it was 1996 when I joined; not right at the beginning, but not much later. I vividly remember how awesome it was to be able to get lacemaking information directly from real people who actually knew what they were talking about. How long ago that was - 25 years in physical time, but a

Re: [lace] re the Marian Powys essay. Not so good!

I'll read your Marian Powys essay no matter where it is published or how many footnotes it may contain (I prefer zero, but that’s just me). About a decade ago I discovered a very interesting factoid about the famous first line of Jane Austen’s “Pride & Prejudice” (“It is a truth universally

Re: [lace] Dutch Lace Pillow Question

Hi Devon: I’ve taken a look at this weird little thing in extreme closeup. If it’s a decoration it is odd that it is completely plain. I am struck by the fact that it is in line with the pricking, and it covers the space between the top of the pricking and the drawer opening, and I wonder if

[lace] "Jean Lucinda's Lace Lessons"

Our lace club meeting was today, and one member brought in a cardboard box she was given, with a label “Jean Lucinda’s Lace Lessons” (hand-lettered; not a commercial label). The contents of the box suggest that this was a set of lessons you could subscribe to, and that perhaps the teacher’s

[lace] "Jean Lucinda's Lace Lessons"

Just to let you know a member of our local found Jean Lucinda. I don’t know how you can search somebody just by their first and middle names, without knowing the last, but she does! Jean Lucinda turned out to be longtime local lacemaker Jean Astbury (1905-1991). Jean was the first lacemaker I

Fwd: [lace] lace-digest V2019 #57

I never find anything in the folders; if you look up at the top menu you’ll see something called “Photostream” and that’s where I found the train bobbin. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the Photostream shows all the uploaded photos in the order they were uploaded, with the most recent

[lace] Railway Bobbin

I love the railway bobbin! I think that when railways first appeared (ca 1830), they were an amazing thing; I can see somebody carving this design onto a bobbin in commemoration of the day they saw the train. I once saw an early (as in, 1835 or so) advertising poster for an English railway

Re: [lace] 1851 Great Exhibition catalogue

I found a short reference to Mrs. Treadwin’s display (#55, on about p. 103). Mrs. Treadwin is ringing a bell in my mind but I don’t know why. Was she the one who designed Victoria’s wedding lace? Or? Adele > On Oct 10, 2019, at 4:02 AM, Diana Smith > wrote: > > Thank you for the link

Re: [lace] Left handed tricks?

Just to add a fun little wrinkle - something I didn’t know until last year was that whether something is clockwise or counter-clockwise depends entirely on your vantage point. Take a bobbin and start winding thread on clockwise as you’re looking at the head of the bobbin. Then continue the same

Re: [lace] Sarah Dazeley hanging bobbin

Cindy - it’s a bobbin that commemorates a public hanging. Yes, that was a thing. Adele West Vancouver, BC > On Jan 26, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Cindy from Dallas wrote: > > Forgive my ignorance, but what is a “hanging bobbin”? > > Cindy from Dallas > Ravelry ID:cinhad > knittingyards.wordpress.com

Re: [lace] Lace knitting

Thanks for the story! Miniature lace knitting is so impressive! I did a little lace knitting many years ago; then I tried a Shetland shawl that I realized, on about the 5th try, had a mistake in the pattern! I haven’t done any since. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > On Jan

[lace] Hoping for a better translation

Hi Everybody - I have an old (1987) leaflet of patterns from Jana Novak, called “Julekniplinger”. I think it is written in Swedish; maybe it’s Danish; I don’t know. I am trying to identify the thread; it calls for “bleget hør”. I plugged that into Google's Swedish/English translator, and it

Re: [lace] Lacemaking in Colonial Spanish America

I think she’s making bobbin lace, all right. If you’re describing something in a manuscript that also contains information about lots of other things, your space is probably limited. You get the most bang for your buck, illustration-wise, by depicting several things at once. So you draw a

Re: [lace] Lappet or something else

Devon: Just mucking around with Google translate, I found Muts translated as cap/bonnet, and one of the translations for slip is lappet. So what I’m thinking is that your piece is a kind of lappet, maybe something used in conjunction with the traditional Dutch cap. Adele West Vancouver, BC

Re: [lace] Tonder lace

Hi Devon: I took a quick look at Kristensen’s “Tønder Lace: About Lace-making History in Western Sønderjylland from the 17th Century till Today”, and I have are a couple of thoughts for you: First, the lacemakers weren’t following a set traditional style of lace; they were making what was

Re: [lace] [Lace] Return to class

There was an article in The Lancet (July 3rd) https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/laninf/PIIS1473-3099(20)30561-2.pdf Talks about how why the danger of surface transmission is less than was originally thought.

Re: [lace] Return to class

Sorry, don’t know why that last bit sent. I was just trying to trim the message, and off it went into the ether. Let’s try again: Just wondering - I have seen wiping with an alcohol-dampened cloth take foil straight off of book covers, so personally I’d worry a little bit about the alcohol

Re: [lace] Mystery lace

Speaking from a design standpoint, I really like the way those figures that are outlined in braid and then filled in with half stitch add scattered opaque spots to the lace. Looking at the picture of the whole piece, they really do look like snowflakes! Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast

Re: [lace] Crazy ideas about how old bobbins are?

I’m just thinking about the lacemakers. I’ve read so much about how in the 19th century, as handmade lace competed with machine-made, lacemakers were poorer women, right down to very young girls, who made lace for a pittance, and they supplied their own pillow and bobbins. I would not be

Re: [lace] Dior Used an Extremely Rare Technique Dating Back to the 15th Century to Create This Delicate Detail

I thought the same at first. Then I realized that all this “rare technique dating back” and “in danger of disappearing” talk is just the author, punching up her story. She has seen the workrooms and all the young people making this lace; and knows these phrases aren’t exactly true, but that

Re: [lace] Goddess of Lace?

H. I would guess there isn’t one, given that lacemaking developed in Europe in the late 15th century, long after people only believed in the one God. Lacemakers did have patron saints, of course - Saint Catherine and Saint Andrew, depending on where the lacemaker lived, and probably other

Re: [lace] Speed and efficiency in lace?

There is an old British Pathé newsreel from 1929, where they filmed an elderly lacemaker at work. Given her evident age, she would have learned her lacemaking in the 1860s or so. The interesting thing for me is that she moves the bobbins with her left hand, and puts in the pins with the other.

Re: [lace] Lace quote

It is an interesting quote. Probably not useful, especially viewed with today’s more utilitarian eyes. Back then, of course, you lived with ornament in the clothing of the moneyed classes. I recall reading somewhere (can’t give you a citation, sorry) that one of the great things about early

Re: [lace] spangled lace

What a find! Certainly looks early to me. Last year I did some yardage (from a pattern in Rosemary Shepherd’s Early Lace Workbook) and the cushion motifs and the method of work look very familiar! If I remember correctly, the pattern I worked was dated to the early 1600s. Adele West Vancouver,

Re: [lace] How do you line a lace jacket?

Hi Alice: I think it depends a little on what kind of lace she made, what she made it of, and how it reacts when its off the pins. Compare, for example, a densely-woven piece with plenty of cloth stitch and a heavier thread, to some much more flimsy piece of point ground made with fine

Re: [lace] Picture on Flicker

I used to have this problem, but then I realized that if you look at the top menu bar on the Flickr page, there’s an option called “Photostream”. Click on that and the most recent upload will be the first thing you see. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > On Apr 14, 2021, at

Re: [lace] RE: lace-digest V2021 #28

Go to the Flickr site and click on “Photostream” in the top menu bar. First there are the doily books that were just raffled off, then there’s a piece of early spangled lace, and then Carmen Roig Ortuño’s lace pillow. Adele > On Oct 9, 2021, at 6:03 PM, Elizabeth Ligeti wrote: > > Where do I

Re: [lace] History of Lacemaking Coming to America

Hi Lorri - Also, i believe there was lacemaking in New France (when it was governed by the French before 1763); a lacemaker in Quebec studied this about 20 years ago. She mentioned her research on Arachne, so the info should be in the archives. I think there were French nuns involved in

Re: [lace] Burano Needle Lace in Hallmark movie!

Yes, I saw that, too! Was wondering how accurate the scenes in Burano were, as I’ve never been there, but they certainly looked right. The first movie was made in the Vancouver area, and one of the props assistants contacted our lace club to ask if we could give them advice as to what a late

[lace] Help With Skeined Cotton Thread

Hi, Everybody: I just got a skein of old linen thread that’s not like anything I’ve ever seen before, here in Canada, but I think maybe some of the Europeans on this list might be familiar with what I have and be able to help me. It’s a single skein, not marked or labelled, and it is very fine -

Re: [lace] Freehand Lace Group?

If this was the freehand lace group on the IOLI Ning site, I believe they are in the process of moving it to a different platform. (I don’t know which one.) Adele > On Feb 2, 2022, at 3:45 PM, Elena Kanagy-Loux wrote: > > Dear Arachnids, > > I was trying to access the Freehand Lace Group

Re: [lace] Honiton design

Hi Alex: Could you be thinking of Pauline, Lady Trevelyan? Looking at her Wikipedia entry, she was a friend of Ruskin, the Rossettis, and "various other people” in the pre-Raphaelite movement, although Morris is not mentioned. But I would assume she knew him. In Anne Buck’s book on Thomas

Re: [lace] point ground with no gimp

Devon - I am without my lace books at the moment, so I can’t give you any citations. But there is a type of lace that was done in the early 19th century, that is a point ground with no gimp on the outside of the motifs. In the books I have, it was called “Regency Lace” - probably a reference to

[lace] Tiara Leaves

Good morning! Anybody else been watching the coronation? I loved the simple, elegant spray of leaves that was repeated throughout the modern-day decoration, and am wondering if anybody knows how the metal leaves were made, that formed Princess Charlotte’s headband? They do look like they might be

[lace-chat] Quiet List

Hi Everybody: I have my apartment up for sale, so all my lacemaking equipment is packed away. I'm in withdrawal! If anybody out there wants to spend a quiet minute or so thinking wouldn't it be nice if somebody bought Adele's apartment really soon I would appreciate it. Might make a

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III's remains identified!!

Hi David: I think they talk about Shakespeare as having created the humpback, the withered arm, plus he did a hatchet-job on Richard III's character. I wonder if in Shakespeare's day they would have seen the scoliosis (which developed on during Richard's adolescence) as an outward sign of the

Re: [lace-chat] Richard III burial

Yes, but Westminster Abbey isn't in the running. Richard III was born in Yorkshire and funded building projects in York Minster - which was, at the time, a very important church - and is the largest gothic cathedral in northern Europe. Leicester Cathedral, on the other hand, though medieval,

[lace-chat] Cutwork Collar

Hi Everybody: The cover of Hello Canada this week has a nice picture of the Duchess of Cambridge out shopping, wearing a lovely cutwork collar. It's enough to make me go down to the storage locker to dig out my embroidery books! Some of you know I've been trying to sell my apartment since last

Re: [lace-chat] Twinkees

No, no, it's the yucky stuff. I have to admit I **loved** that white stuff when I was a teenager. It was just the right fluffiness, just the right amount of artificial flavouring and just the right amount of sugar. A perfect foodstuff! Real dairy cream would spoil, of course, and you'd lose the

[lace-chat] Bobbins As Decor

I recently moved to a new neighbourhood, and today as I walked through the local shopping area I took a look in the Farrow Ball store. I think of FB as an expensive paint store, but they've expanded and are carrying other luxury home items, like tea towels and hand-dipped candles imported from

Re: [lace-chat] Bobbins As Decor

Hi: Farrow and Ball is an English company - started in the 1930s in Wimborne Minster, Dorset (according to Wikipedia). But now it has grown and is quite international. I looked on their website - they have a store locator that will tell you where their stores are in about 30 countries. The US

Re: [lace-chat] Extreme Knitting

Try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVRfVEONxJQ Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) On 2013-10-24, at 7:21 PM, Angel Skubic wrote: I made sure the whole thing was put in but all I got was a blank page... Cearbhael -Original Message- From:

Re: [lace-chat] Australian friends - TV question

Hi Janice: Thanks for this! Other streaming services, like Hulu, etc, are not available in Canada (except for Netflix, which doesn’t have all the shows it does in the States). But this Acorntv is available up here. I’m going to look into it. By the way, the acorntv.com URL you posted got me to

[lace-chat] Quote Source

> "I'm sorry this letter is so long; I didn't have time to make it short." (Now I'll spend the rest of the day wondering who I'm quoting.) > > — The Internet tells me the source was a letter by Blaise Pascal in 1657. Huh. I could have sworn it was Churchill. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west

Re: [lace-chat] USA places to visit help

David, I think you’re thinking of the Navajo. The vast (71,000 sq. km) Navajo Reservation is mostly in northeastern Arizona and also extends into New Mexico and into bits of Colorado and Utah. Major cities nearby are Flagstaff (to the west) and Phoenix, Arizona (to the southwest, and a bit

Re: [lace-chat] Wishes

Yes, let’s all wish one another a very Happy New Year! May good luck and good lace come your way! Janice, your New Year’s Eve sounds exhausting, but good fun. You must be very speedy to make so many appetizers in just one hour. My own celebration will be a quiet home-alone thing - I would

Re: [lace-chat] Urgent Favor...........Alice Howell

Wondering, from those of you more computer-crime-savvy than I am - Usually, these emails would have a link included, and the link would take you to some website that looks like Gamestop (whatever that is) and if you were foolish enough to buy a gift card they would then harvest your name and

Re: [lace-chat] Lace on stamps - my re-organised web pages.

Looks good, Ann! Everything I tried worked just fine. I have bookmarked your page so I can come back to it and see what else you have! I’m on an Apple iMac desktop. Adele West Vancouver, BC (west coast of Canada) > On Mar 3, 2019, at 8:06 AM, Ann McClean wrote: > > I've just spent the last

Re: [lace-chat] Posts and summer

My lace club went through this a little over a year ago; we ended with a higher rent but a much better place. Good luck with the move and the new library system. I think most clubs have to keep their library off-site; it takes a bit of getting used to but it can work well. Adele > The guild

Re: [lace-chat] Posts

I don’t think so, Sue. Just don’t have anything to chat about, I guess. The weather? It’s supposed to be July 2nd but this morning we’ve got good weather for October (13 celsius and rainy). Good weather for sitting and making lace - indoors, in a cosy living-room - but I’m working. I hear

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