3494 tape library with linux on z800

2004-03-10 Thread Istvn Nmeth
Hi! Does someone know how to access the 3494 tape library from a linux running on a z800?? I've read many docs, but I didn't get a clear answer. I can access the tape drive (3590) with OCO modules, but I cannot ask for a tape... Does it works trough FICON channel (as with zOS?), or only with

Re: Administrivial

2004-03-10 Thread Rod Furey
I agree with Rob (gee, just like the good ol' days:-) The ClamAV list is full of people who quote posts in their entirety for a one line response that's usually top posted (sigh). The reason given, that it's considered SPAM by someone who can't get off the list, is really not good enough. They

Re: ZL000CE z/VM and Linux(TM) Boot Camp

2004-03-10 Thread Auchincloss, Matthew
Hi David, Do you have plans to offer this course in the UK or in EMEA? Regards, Matt Auchincloss Software Consultant bmcsoftware * 01784 478778 * 07887 994910 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David Kreuter [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: telnet limiting logins to 1 or 2

2004-03-10 Thread James Tison
If you're running xinetd, look for an instances directive in /etc/xinetd.conf. If you find it, comment it out and restart xinetd. --Jim-- James S. Tison Senior Software Engineer TPF Laboratory / Architecture IBM Corporation If dogs don't go to heaven, then, when I die, I want to go where they do.

Question About Raw Devices and Linux- newbie question

2004-03-10 Thread Hobbs, Robert
Running Redhat EL3 under z/VM v4.4 and installing Oracle (sorry do not have the release). How do I create the raw devices required for Oracle? Any help will be appreciated. Robert Hobbs Operating System Services (972) 584-5227

Re: ZL000CE z/VM and Linux(TM) Boot Camp

2004-03-10 Thread David Kreuter
I have forwarded your request to the course owner Gerhard Cannon. Thanks! Auchincloss, Matthew wrote: Hi David, Do you have plans to offer this course in the UK or in EMEA? Regards, Matt Auchincloss Software Consultant bmcsoftware * 01784 478778 * 07887

In-house VM courses on offer in Europe

2004-03-10 Thread Rod Furey
I beg the list admin's indulgence for this but since it seems to be permissible to advertise... If anyone in Europe has just gotten a VM system and wants to learn more about it, then I can offer various courses, held at your own premises. You provide the VM system, access and a classroom: I

Re: In-house VM courses on offer in Europe

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
The cultural norm for this mailing list has been that one-time unsolicited ads have been reasonably well tolerated, usually in the form of an announcement of availability. Responses to inquiries are always appropriate, but most people have taken the contact me offline for more information

filesystem overhead

2004-03-10 Thread Daniel Jarboe
This is not s390 specific, but I was wondering if anyone has any good links or references to information comparing overhead of different filesystems, either disk or CPU. Particularly any that compare disk overhead for ext3 (I know the size of the journal will make a difference) and ntfs. Also,

Changing boot kernel

2004-03-10 Thread Davis, Larry
I have loaded some fixes down to my S390 RHEL AS 3 system and the up2date routine has built the new kernel and placed it in the /boot directory I assume now I need to update a config file or just run zipl to get the new kernel into production. Correct? Can anyone point me to any current

WebSphere 5 on Z/linux - Cold start?

2004-03-10 Thread James Melin
Does anyone know how to cold-start websphere 5 on Linux? I had it go south trying to get LDAP configuration to work and had to kill the primary java task. NOw it comes up trying to do recovery and cant. Thanks, -J -- For

Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Geiger, Mike
I have had to change to a different Ethernet adaptor from 0e22,0e23 (port 2) to 0e40,0e41 (port 3). I now have only the service element on my MP3000 available to edit/fix things up. I have changed /etc/chandev.conf from noauto,lcs0,0x0e22,0x0e23,0,2 to noauto,lcs0,0x0e40,0x0e41,0,3. When I

Re: filesystem overhead

2004-03-10 Thread Rich Smrcina
There are some presentations that go through the various performance measurements of the various filesystems. You can check linuxvm.org/present to download them. On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 10:03, Daniel Jarboe wrote: This is not s390 specific, but I was wondering if anyone has any good links or

Re: Changing boot kernel

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
Larry, Pretty much correct. If you have an /etc/zipl.conf on your system, I would verify that the contents point to the kernel and initrd that you want. You'll probably want to re-run the mkinitrd command to make sure your initrd has the latest (if any) kernel modules in them. Then, re-run zipl

Re: filesystem overhead

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
Daniel, Since ext3 is advertised as ext2 with a journal, I would say that the journal is the only additional overhead you'll see in terms of disk space usage. According to the Boeblingen lab folks, ext3 was the best compromise between performance and least CPU-consuming journaling file system

Re: filesystem overhead

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 10:03, Daniel Jarboe wrote: Also, to copy filesystems I typically see tar piped to tar recommended... is there any reason to favor that method over cp -a on systems that support it? Not really. It's just that cp -a is a GNUism and relatively recent. Adam

Re: Changing boot kernel

2004-03-10 Thread Davis, Larry
So if /etc/zipl.conf shows this [defaultboot] default=linux target=/boot/ And I have two labels Current [linux] New [2.4.21-9.0.1.EL] Then the easiest thing to do would be to change [linux] to [2.4.21-4.EL] And change [2.4.21-9.0.1.EL] to [linux] Run initrd zipl

Re: In-house VM courses on offer in Europe

2004-03-10 Thread Rod Furey
Yes, I apologise - I phrased this very badly. Apologies to the list. Sigh... not my best day today... Rod -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message:

Re: filesystem overhead

2004-03-10 Thread Malcolm Beattie
Post, Mark K writes: Since ext3 is advertised as ext2 with a journal, I would say that the journal is the only additional overhead you'll see in terms of disk space usage. Hmm, sort of. From the point of view of purely disk space usage, that's true, as you say. Further, ext3 is indeed ext2

Re: filesystem overhead

2004-03-10 Thread Carsten Otte
Particularly any that compare disk overhead for ext3 (I know the size of the journal will make a difference) and ntfs. Filesystem overhead depends on the data you put on the filesystems (typical file size, amount of files per directory and such). In a given scenario, use /proc/partitions to see

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
I would have thought that would do it. You might try leaving /etc/chandev.conf empty, and doing a modprobe on lcs, then do a dmesg command to see what, if anything, the driver found in the way of LCS hardware. I'm not all that familiar with MP3000 systems, so I have to ask if it is possible the

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Rich Smrcina
It's more than likely LCS since the MP3K doesn't have QDIO hardware. On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 12:03, Post, Mark K wrote: I would have thought that would do it. You might try leaving /etc/chandev.conf empty, and doing a modprobe on lcs, then do a dmesg command to see what, if anything, the driver

storage archiving

2004-03-10 Thread Daniel Jarboe
Our DASD and NT groups mentioned a product for Windows (LEGATO/OTG DiskXtender) which piggy-backs on the Tivoli Storage Manager client for storage archiving. Files which haven't been accessed for awhile are migrated to a less expensive medium, and if the file is needed later on, it uses the

Re: storage archiving

2004-03-10 Thread David Boyes
Our DASD and NT groups mentioned a product for Windows (LEGATO/OTG DiskXtender) which piggy-backs on the Tivoli Storage Manager client for storage archiving. Files which haven't been accessed for awhile are migrated to a less expensive medium, and if the file is needed later on, it uses

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Geiger, Mike
Yes, LCS. Also SLES8. modprobe lcs and dmesg give me the same no lcs capable devices found messages. This is running in an LPAR which I also use for a second z/OS 1.4 image. The adaptor does work without issue with z/OS so I an confident that it is properly defined and assigned to the

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Cornelia Huck
This is running in an LPAR which I also use for a second z/OS 1.4 image. The adaptor does work without issue with z/OS so I an confident that it is properly defined and assigned to the LPAR... at least for z/OS. Hm... you should check in /proc/subchannels whether your devices are detected by

SCO Sues Al Gore

2004-03-10 Thread Fry, Bruce
SCO Sues Al Gore Recuperating from the MyDOOM virus attach and moving beyond IBM and Novell, The SCO Group sets its sites on former Vice President Al Gore for ownership of the Internet. By Warren Keuffel Software Development Magazine April 12, 2004 Vol. 12, No. 4 When it comes to megalomania,

March 24th Customer Teleconference - Linux z/VM Networking Choices

2004-03-10 Thread Pamela Christina z/VM in sunny Endicott NY
Cross-posted to VM, IBM-Main, and Mainframe Linux for your reading pleasure. z/VM Version 4 Release 4 Networking Choices Moving from Guest LAN to Virtual Switch March 24, 2004 2:30 pm EST (session #112469) http://www.vm.ibm.com/events/march24.html Session Abstract: Perhaps you have

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Davis, Larry
Are you sharing this adapter between z/OS and the Linux LPAR or do you have z/VM in the linux LPAR Larry Davis, VM Systems Programmer Nielsen Media Research 813-366-2380 -Original Message- From: Geiger, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 14:31 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Geiger, Mike
/proc/subchannels shows; e40 0378 3088/01 80 80 ff fcff e41 0379 3088/01 80 80 ff fcff /proc/chandev in channels detected shows; chan cu cudev dev in chandev irq devno type type model type model pim chipids use reg 0x0378 0x0e40

Re: SCO Sues Al Gore

2004-03-10 Thread Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission
See http://www.theregister.com/content/30/36116.html for a 'bastard' take on the SCO-IBM fracas. __ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential

Re: Changing boot kernel

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
Actually, it would probably be a better idea to change default=linux to default=2.4.21-9.0.1.EL (Unless that's what you meant.) Run mkinitrd (however you need to make sure you get the new versions of the modules, not the old versions). Run zipl Reboot Mark Post -Original Message-

Cultural norm for advertising [ was Re: In-house VM courses on offer in Europe ]

2004-03-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 16:44, Post, Mark K wrote: The cultural norm for this mailing list has been that one-time unsolicited ads have been reasonably well tolerated, usually in the form of an announcement of availability. Responses to inquiries are always Oh dear... does that also apply to

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Geiger, Mike
Hi Larry, No sharing, configured to only this LPAR. No z/VM... yet. I IPL either z/OS or z/Linux in this LPAR. Michael A. Geiger Sr. Operating Systems Programmer CommerceQuest, Inc. 5481 W. Waters Ave. Tampa, FL 33634 Tel. 813.639.6516 -Original Message- From: Davis, Larry

Re: Cultural norm for advertising [ was Re: In-house VM courses o n offer in Europe ]

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
I didn't realize you were getting paid for downloads of CMS2CDL. Mark -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cultural norm for advertising [ was Re: In-house VM

Re: filesystem overhead

2004-03-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 17:41, Post, Mark K wrote: tested, compared to JFS or Reiserfs. There appeared to be a nasty interaction between Reiserfs and VM time slicing that was causing an extraordinary number of SIE dropouts per second, which was chewing up a Hmm... I *do* know about a bug in

Re: Cultural norm for advertising [ was Re: In-house VM courses o n offer in Europe ]

2004-03-10 Thread Nick Laflamme
Are you kidding? When do you think Rob last paid for his own beer at SCIDS, er, the SHARE Evening Reception? :-) :-) :-) Post, Mark K wrote: I didn't realize you were getting paid for downloads of CMS2CDL. Mark -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf

Re: Cultural norm for advertising [ was Re: In-house VM courses o n offer in Europe ]

2004-03-10 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: Post, Mark K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 2:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cultural norm for advertising [ was Re: In-house VM courses o n offer in Europe ] I didn't realize you were getting paid for downloads of

Attempting a SUSE install

2004-03-10 Thread Steve Domarski
We are attempting a SUSE install but YaST is returning: package aaa_base-2002.2.4-3 is for a different architecture when we attempt to use the 64bit beta. The Install is on a z800 running zVM 4.3. The 32bit YaST install process just stops after about 30 minutes with no apparent symptoms. YaST

more cause code 0x22 errors

2004-03-10 Thread Richard Troth
I'm getting the olde cause code 0x22 -- try another portname error that previously indicated we either needed to upgrade microcode or fix modules.conf (now also chandev.conf). This is with 2.4.21 and comletely in-house compiled kernel and modules, no distro fault. I have tried leaving off the

more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Richard Troth
It has always worried me that drivers would read a file. Files are user space and drivers are supposed to be kernel space. But I have to ask, are my worries justified? In chasing this current problem, I've twisted /etc/chandev.conf several different ways. But other drivers, on other platforms,

Backup products for RHEL 3.0

2004-03-10 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
I'm looking for some backup products to trial on Redhat Enterprise Linux 3.0 on zSeries. CA Enterprise Backup and Tivoli Storage Manager do not support that Linux distribution. Has anyone tried either of those products, despite the lack of support? If so, do they work? Are there any backup

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Eric D Rossman
Honest opinion as a kernel module writer: No, it is not okay. I believe that kernel modules should take arguments on the insmod (modprobe, whatever) and/or configuration via /proc (or ioctl()s on /dev, /udev entries) and/or static values from previous loads of the module left in kernel storage

Re: more cause code 0x22 errors

2004-03-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/10/2004 at 04:59 CST, Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting the olde cause code 0x22 -- try another portname error that previously indicated we either needed to upgrade microcode or fix modules.conf (now also chandev.conf). This is with 2.4.21 and comletely

Re: more cause code 0x22 errors

2004-03-10 Thread Richard Troth
Well ... after all that, it was a typo. [blush] One of the lines in chandev.conf has all three addrs, and another has just two (top and bottom of range). Fine. So I screwed-up the latter and had the +1 address where I should have had +0. Sorry about that. But thanks for the feedback.

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/10/2004 at 05:12 CST, Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps I'm being a purist. So I pose the question to the group: Is it okay for kernel code to read plain files for config info? Let it go. :-) You let VM and MVS kernels read plain files. Why should Linux be

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Ulrich Weigand
Richard Troth wrote: Perhaps I'm being a purist. So I pose the question to the group: Is it okay for kernel code to read plain files for config info? No, this is not OK; which is why chandev.conf featured prominently in Arjan van de Ven's How to NOT write kernel drivers paper at the 2002 Ottawa

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
You mean such as these files on Intel Linux? /etc/devfsd.conf /etc/fstab /etc/ioctl /etc/modules.conf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Troth Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 6:12 PM To:

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Richard Troth
You mean such as these files on Intel Linux? /etc/devfsd.conf /etc/fstab /etc/ioctl /etc/modules.conf /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep Yeah, sure. Those are good examples. Of the lot, only the first would be read from kernel space, and that I'm not sure of either. Certainly

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Richard Troth
You let VM and MVS kernels read plain files. Why should Linux be different? Where and when and how MVS and VM read plain files doesn't necessarily match where, when, how Linux does. Even if they lined up, it doesn't follow that Linux should follow. VM is wonderful, as you know, Alan. But

Re: Changing Ethernet adaptors

2004-03-10 Thread Vic Cross
Mike, On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Geiger, Mike wrote: Yes, LCS. Also SLES8. modprobe lcs and dmesg give me the same no lcs capable devices found messages. This is running in an LPAR which I also use for a second z/OS 1.4 image. The adaptor does work without issue with z/OS so I an confident

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/10/2004 at 06:49 CST, Richard Troth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You let VM and MVS kernels read plain files. Why should Linux be different? Where and when and how MVS and VM read plain files doesn't necessarily match where, when, how Linux does. Even if they lined up, it

OT: George Pake died today (founder of Xerox PARC)

2004-03-10 Thread David Boyes
You've all used technology George Pake played a critical role in making possible. Moment of silence please. PARC founder George Pake dies By Ina Fried CNET News.com March 10, 2004, 12:01 PM PT URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1103-5172123.html George Pake, the scientist who founded Xerox's fabled

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Ferguson, Neale
That'll all change for 2.6. sysfs udev will be used to configure things and the channel configuration file will disappear. -Original Message- So I pose the question to the group: Is it okay for kernel code to read plain files for config info?

Re: more cause code 0x22 and /etc/chandev.conf

2004-03-10 Thread Adam Thornton
On Wed, 2004-03-10 at 19:12, Alan Altmark wrote: I was reared by my parents (or wolves; historians aren't sure on that point) As a historian (pardon me: as a person with an advanced degree from an Ivy League school, and an elevated nose and extended pinky finger, an historian), I vote for the

Re: OT: George Pake died today (founder of Xerox PARC)

2004-03-10 Thread Joseph A Dempster
Dave... Did George really get his PHD in the 80's? /joe Joe Dempster GRID Certified zSeries SI Advocate IBM Corporation 1551 South Washington Avenue Piscataway, NJ 08854 Phone: (732) 926-2304 Cellular: (908) 413-2889 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT: George Pake died today (founder of Xerox PARC)

2004-03-10 Thread David Boyes
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 22:58, Joseph A Dempster wrote: Did George really get his PHD in the 80's? I think a bit earlier, actually but I don't know for certain -- memory loss is starting to set in. To go head-to-head and argue design with the PARC crowd during that period, he'd have been at

Re: OT: George Pake died today (founder of Xerox PARC)

2004-03-10 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine The blurb David quoted says something about it being the 60s. And yes, your right David, the world indeed is a sadder place for losing this individual. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The

Re: OT: George Pake died today (founder of Xerox PARC)

2004-03-10 Thread Post, Mark K
Having suffered the loss of both my parents at far too young an age, that's an easy one to answer: orphans, both literally and figuratively. Sadly yours, Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004

Re: In-house VM courses on offer in Europe

2004-03-10 Thread Phil Payne
The cultural norm for this mailing list has been that one-time unsolicited ads have been reasonably well tolerated, usually in the form of an announcement of availability. Responses to inquiries are always appropriate, but most people have taken the contact me offline for more information