Re: Fwd: [fsl-discuss] Standards: Register: Phillips moves to put 'poison' label on protected audio CDs

2002-01-21 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:19:30 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Scribbling feverishly on January 18, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: | Looks like Phillips actually has a clue! Go Phillips! | | | mother of all sue-fests indeed! | | Looks like I'll be spending more money on Philips

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-21 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:05:36 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:19:33 -0500 | Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: | | [snip] | | Not related to your main questions, but you are aware that a | Ctl-Alt-ESC in X will give you a

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 01:31:21 -0500 Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gates might start feeling like a wagonmaster under indian attack who is one wagon short of circling the wagons. Increased market share for linux is happening, but I'm not sure how many paying customers are ponying up to the bar

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Previously, Douglas J Hunley chose to write: Michael Hipp babbled on about: I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every day to get an ATI XPERT 128 card to work under Linux. Xfree says it works. The COL list says it works. But I tried 2+ different distros and 3

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-21 Thread Ian
Roger Oberholtzer wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:05:36 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:19:33 -0500 | Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: | | [snip] | | Not related to your main questions, but you are aware that a |

Re: [Fwd: Screem] (unixware drivvle)

2002-01-21 Thread Hemo
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 09:19:54 +0100, you wrote: On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:05:36 -0500 David A. Bandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 17:19:33 -0500 | Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: | | [snip] | | Not related to your main questions, but you are aware

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread dep
On Sunday 20 January 2002 21:49, David A. Bandel wrote: | Before Windoze 98 hit the streets, I had a laptop running Linux. I | remember folks eyes popping wide open when I'd reach over and pop | out the PCMCIA card while the system was running. Then a minute | later, pop it back in and it just

Re: wierd response

2002-01-21 Thread dep
On Sunday 20 January 2002 22:27, Ken Moffat wrote: | On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 08:15:52 -0500 | | dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | There is sobbing of the strong, | And a pall upon the land; | But the People in their weeping | Bare the iron hand; | Beware the | People weeping | When they bare the

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Sivernell
Well, I hate to say it, my wife can not remember were the cdrom disk drive is located on the machine. Can not remember were I setup the easy to icons on the desktop. Actually unless it is sometyhing she uses everyday, reteach her. This is a common problem with computer users, I only want to

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2002 10:20 PM Subject: Re: an interesting experience Michael Hipp babbled on about: I just spent a very long frustrating week working for many hours every day to get an

Re: OT Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: Zoran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 1:09 AM Subject: OT Re: an interesting experience On Jan 20 Michael Hipp was heard saying: -My point is that we need to make this stuff *simple*. Rather than brag about -how

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- can ease of use be achieved without compromising security? -- i do not know, and neither does microsoft, because it's never been a concern of theirs. nor do they intend for it to be, because their idea is to own your computer, its

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's entirely different on Win. Windows doesn't ask me what my dot clock frequency is, doesn't ask me what my monitor horizontal freq is, vert freq and a dozen other technical details that I couldn't ultimately care less about. I just want it to

OT XP Licensing [was Re: an interesting experience]

2002-01-21 Thread Ian
Michael Hipp wrote: - Original Message - From: dep [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- can ease of use be achieved without compromising security? -- i do not know, and neither does microsoft, because it's never been a concern of theirs. nor do they intend for it to be, because their idea

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Net Llama wrote: snip Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. You boot into safe mode and run 640x480 and fix it. Not ALL

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Michael Hipp wrote: snip FWIW, as a fifteen-year customer of MS and mostly satisfied one. I have decided to boycott XP - it's just intolerable. Worst UI design I've ever seen. And to have been marketed as the most stable OS ever, they missed that snip IIRC, it's marketed as the most stable

Re: [Fwd: Screem] (unixware drivvle)

2002-01-21 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:20:24 -0600 Hemo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Or UnixWare (as thought anyone else here really cares...). On UnixWare | that takes you to the character console. | | | ahem. | | I care. Take note I am a SCO devotee and have run v7.1.1.on occasion, | but never paid much

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:02:31 -0600 Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Well, I hate to say it, my wife can not remember were the cdrom disk drive | is located on the machine. Can not remember were I setup the easy to icons | on the desktop. Actually unless it is sometyhing she uses

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Net Llama wrote: --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: snip Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh.

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: snip Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no ssh. You boot

Re: OT XP Licensing [was Re: an interesting experience]

2002-01-21 Thread Roger Oberholtzer
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:17 -0500 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Sometimes things like this get exaggerated, and since I only have second | hand hearsay, I'd like to confirm if this is true or not. Don't know. I saw pirate copies in Saudi Arabia that people were installing. They came with a

DVD drives: recommendations?

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
Greetings, I have the opportunity to acquire this DVD drive: http://www.hitachi.com/opstore/discont_prod/03dis_ramrom/disdvd_rom/halp-ZZZAR20RXSC.html Looking at the specs, to my untrained eyes, it looks like this beast can act as a 20x CDROM drive, as well as a DVD-ROM drive. My only

Re: OT XP Licensing [was Re: an interesting experience]

2002-01-21 Thread John Hiemenz
On Monday 21 January 2002 09:20 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote : On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:00:17 -0500 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Sometimes things like this get exaggerated, and since I only have second | hand hearsay, I'd like to confirm if this is true or not. Don't know. I saw pirate

RE: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Tom Wilson
Ken Moffat wrote: who is one wagon short of circling the wagons. Increased market share for linux is happening, but I'm not sure how many paying customers are ponying up to the bar yet. And MS still has a virtual softwre monopoly for the home user. Techies love linux, but my wife

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
--- Michael Hipp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no

Thanks

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams
Hi, Andrew: I got your message about cybermesa.com bouncing the mail. Thanks for sending that info. I've forwarded it to cybermesa and they are working with it. In the meantime, I went to the mailing list archives to see what mail I've missed, and when I finished one message in a thread, and

RE: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Tyler Regas
Well, I hate to say it, my wife can not remember were the cdrom disk drive is located on the machine. Can not remember were I setup the easy to icons on the desktop. Actually unless it is sometyhing she uses everyday, reteach her. This is a common problem with computer users, I only want to

Re: BIND 9.x: Part II

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Bill Day babbled on about: hmm Well, metamail does not seem to like my eD2.4 I see the mmencode.c in the metamail tree... is there a way I can pull just it out of the system and build it in or is this even possible.. looked at dnssec-keygen does look quite irritating to try using it...

Re: More Steps

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Ken Moffat babbled on about: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 00:25:26 -0500 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FREEBSD Intro to FREEBSD (Added new section and 1 document) -- Linux SxS [http://sxs.webhop.net/] Excellent intro! I copied this to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to make them aware. let's not forget them

Re: Thanks

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Glenn Williams babbled on about: Hi, Andrew: I got your message about cybermesa.com bouncing the mail. Thanks for sending that info. I've forwarded it to cybermesa and they are working with it. In the meantime, I went to the mailing list archives to see what mail I've missed, and when I

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-21 Thread David A. Bandel
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:19:58 -0500 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: [snip] It is an X function: /usr/X11R6/bin/xkill No, it is an X application (utility, whatever), but _not_ an X function. And I have no Window Managers that I run with any key sequence I'm aware of that will

THREAD IS DEAD (was Re: an interesting experience)

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Tim Wunder babbled on about: IIRC, it's marketed as the most stable WINDOWS O/S ever. That is not necessarily wrong. However, I do agree that the the UI is hideous... sorry guys, but let's kill this thread or move it [EMAIL PROTECTED] it was ok as long it was win merits versus linux merits,

Re: Where is the news.linux.nf newsgroup?

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Keith Antoine babbled on about: Did not even know there was one, and would not use it anyway. Hate news groups too many script kiddies in them plus spam. hey! don't be lumping *MY* newsgroups in with the rest of them. there is *no* traffic on my newsgroups that is not already on my email

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 21 Jan 2002, at 8:32, Michael Hipp boldly uttered: Two problems: 1) ChipID doesn't apply to Rage 128 boards. From xfree.org: ChipID can only be used with Mach32 or Mach64 adapters, and, thus, specifically excludes any other adapter from matching the ``Device'' section. 2) Where do

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 21 January 2002 10:14 am, Roger Oberholtzer wrote: My wife's only complaint about Linux is that one of our banks' security software only runs on Windows. Until recently we have been dual boot for that reason. I am now checking if the security blip will run on Win4Lin. A similar

Re: [Fwd: Screem]

2002-01-21 Thread Ian
David A. Bandel wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 08:19:58 -0500 Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] spewed into the bitstream: [snip] It is an X function: /usr/X11R6/bin/xkill No, it is an X application (utility, whatever), but _not_ an X function. And I have no Window Managers that I run with any key

OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
I'm going to be upgrading my Thinkpad A20m to a larger HD. Anyone here know what the options are for moving current stuff to the new HD? I'm familiar with all the mundane stuff of copy partitions, etc but I wonder if two HD's can be hooked up (even temporarily) to do the copy or whether I'll

Re: Thanks

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
--- Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn Williams babbled on about: Hi, Andrew: I got your message about cybermesa.com bouncing the mail. Thanks for sending that info. I've forwarded it to cybermesa and they are working with it. In the meantime, I went to the mailing

Getting a Linux screen dump

2002-01-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I'm suddenly interested in getting screen dumps from my RH 7.1 system. I've found xwd to get the dumps, and xwud to display them again, but I need to be able to print them. There are references to xpr, but that program does not appear to be part of RH 7.1. Is there another way? ++ kevin --

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Dallam Wych
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 10:04:05AM -0700, Tyler Regas wrote: -Linux is pleased to offer what it can to anyone willing to try it (that distro companies extend the OS is NOT apropos). Linux users will, with a small amount of effort, reap solid rewards, but they will feel the pinch when it

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Sivernell
-Windows wants the classic fast food restaurant worker; no prior experience and a willingness to be shaped like clay for practically nothing in return. Windows users will, in XP, be coddled through most every task and will be offered ideas on what to do with ones time in front of the

ping

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
-- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that

(no subject)

2002-01-21 Thread dilyard root
pong ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Lee
Michael Hipp wrote: - Original Message - From: Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that fixed without reinstalling the OS, when you have no video, no telnet, no

Fw: Problem Identified

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams
Hey, Group: Here's the latest on the mail delivery problem. It should be resolved soon. Thanks for you help and patience. Regards, Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 - Original Message - From: Jane M. Hill

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Stuart Biggerstaff
NT 4.0 lets you boot to NT or NT VGA Mode--or whatever other OS choices are in boot.ini, and so did 3.51 (at least). And to really mess up video settings, your user would have to have administrator privileges on the system. Windows 3.1x DID have this problem--but there you could boot to DOS

Re: Thanks

2002-01-21 Thread Douglas J Hunley
Net Llama babbled on about: linux.nf isn't using a journaling filesystem? yes. it uses ext3. now pay attention every one: the authors of ext3 state that you should STILL periodically run the fsck t verify that the drive itself isn't wigging out. Just cause the fs is journalled does NOT mean

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Sivernell
Hmmm, I have found that I do a lot more in consol mode than I did with windowsNT. I was still like GUI's, they have a place. But I get just as much done using both as I need the value that one gets from Linux. Config stuff, compiling, untar etc i use the console others thing I use the GUI.

Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Sivernell
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 12:44:02 -0500 Bruce Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm going to be upgrading my Thinkpad A20m to a larger HD. Anyone here know what the options are for moving current stuff to the new HD? I'm familiar with all the mundane stuff of copy partitions, etc but I wonder

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
- Original Message - From: Dallam Wych [EMAIL PROTECTED] I couldn't agree more with these statements. I have only been using linux for about nice months now, and have found it to be a steep learning curve but well worth it. I have a much better sense of how my computer works now,

Re: DVD drives: recommendations?

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:31:42 -0800 (PST) Net Llama [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled in frustration: Greetings, I have the opportunity to acquire this DVD drive: http://www.hitachi.com/opstore/discont_prod/03dis_ramrom/disdvd_rom/halp-ZZZAR20RXSC.html Looking at the specs, to my untrained eyes,

Re: (no subject)

2002-01-21 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 21, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: dilyard root babbled on about: pong ignore him. he's a smart@$$ There are several such on this list. I, of course, am not one of them. ;-) Kurt -- You now have Asian Flu.

Re: Open Invitation OT

2002-01-21 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 19, Tom Wilson managed to emit: [...] Though you may want to contact me through e-mail first if you do 'cause I think there are quite a few William Thomas' in the local phone book. Really? There are lots of Joseph Smiths in Salt Lake City. ;-) Kurt --

Re: Open Invitation OT

2002-01-21 Thread Kurt Wall
Scribbling feverishly on January 20, Burns MacDonald managed to emit: Keith scribbled: Do not know if the car will make it on a tank of gas. I should think it's the pontoons you'd need to worry about. ;o) Yeah, and I would expect his arms to get awful tired from the rowing... Kurt --

Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Michael Hipp
There are a couple of commercial packages that move stuff from 1 HD to another: http://www.v-com.com/product/dw_ind.html runs on Win but supports Ext2 filesystems and many others. Other helpful links: This company has an impeccable reputation for reliable products:

Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 21 January 2002 15:26 pm, Michael Hipp wrote:  There are a couple of commercial packages that move stuff from 1 HD to another: http://www.v-com.com/product/dw_ind.html runs on Win but supports Ext2 filesystems and many others. Other helpful links: This company has an impeccable

Re: Getting a Linux screen dump

2002-01-21 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 03:29:53PM -0500, Kurt Wall wrote: Scribbling feverishly on January 21, Kevin O'Gorman managed to emit: I'm suddenly interested in getting screen dumps from my RH 7.1 system. I've found xwd to get the dumps, and xwud to display them again, but I need to be able to

RE: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Tyler Regas
The one thing that really bothers me though is this, I didn't switch to linux to see it become more windows-like. I don't mind the GUI, I have the option of the console. I guess my feeling is that if you want a system that does everything for you without you having to learn about it, why not

RE: Problem Identified

2002-01-21 Thread Tyler Regas
Is someone from this list in the ABQ area? Hey, Group: Here's the latest on the mail delivery problem. It should be resolved soon. Thanks for you help and patience. Regards, Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since

RE: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Tyler Regas
Hmmm, I have found that I do a lot more in consol mode than I did with windowsNT. I was still like GUI's, they have a place. But I get just as much done using both as I need the value that one gets from Linux. Config stuff, compiling, untar etc i use the console others thing I use the

Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Monday 21 January 2002 15:57 pm, Bill Campbell wrote: I did copy everything from the TP off to the network, and reloaded the old Linux partition back under a directory on the new system so I wouldn't have to be searching for old files.  I also have an Adaptec PMCIA SCSI card for the TP,

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Net Llama wrote: Greetings, I built XFree86-4.2.0 from source this morning. I had been running XFree86-4.1.0 for several months. THe build went swimmingly in about 45 minutes. However, something isn't quite right somewhere, and i can't figure out why at the moment. If I attempt to

Re: Problem Identified

2002-01-21 Thread Andrew Mathews
Tyler Regas wrote: Is someone from this list in the ABQ area? snip Yes, a couple of us at least. -- Andrew Mathews 2:40pm up 5:19, 3 users, load average: 1.04, 1.11, 1.08

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Sivernell
On the other hand, there are no *nix distros like it and hackers seem to like it. This is likely because of X's conquest factor, which is rather high right now. Tyler Please exspond her please on the above staement, I am not a Mac user I do not follow completely. cheers -- Rick Sivernell

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Rick Sivernell
Had this too. found I had a typo in the /etc/profile file. ALSO ONCE THE MONITOR SETUP IN THE /ETC/ZX11/XFCONFIG-4 FILE cheers -- Rick Sivernell Dallas, Texas 75287 972 306-2296 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Caldera Open Linux eWorkStation 3.1 Registered Linux User .~. / v \ /( _ )\ ^ ^ In

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: Greetings, I built XFree86-4.2.0 from source this morning. I had been running XFree86-4.1.0 for several months. THe build went swimmingly in about 45 minutes. However, something isn't quite right somewhere, and i can't figure

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
--- Rick Sivernell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had this too. found I had a typo in the /etc/profile file. A typo that wouldn't effect XFree86-4.1.0, but XFree86-4.2.0? Also, i haven't touched /etc/profile since 2/16/00. ALSO ONCE THE MONITOR SETUP IN THE /ETC/ZX11/XFCONFIG-4 FILE This

OT ABQ List Members (was RE: Problem Identified)

2002-01-21 Thread Tyler Regas
I guess I should have said that I am too G How nice. I've been work-related anti-social for quite some time now. Might be time to change that. Tyler -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andrew Mathews Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:43

Re: XFree86-4.2.0 released!

2002-01-21 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 23:35:52 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama babbled on about: http://www.xfree86.org/cvs/changes_4_2.html ftp://ftp.xfree86.org/pub/XFree86/4.2.0/ Its out. Anyone yet attempted to build/install the massive download yet (either binary or

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Wunder
Previously, Net Llama chose to write: --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: Greetings, I built XFree86-4.2.0 from source this morning. I had been running XFree86-4.1.0 for several months. THe build went swimmingly in about 45 minutes. However, something

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
All of the files in /etc/X11/gdm (including gdmrc) have not been changed in nearly a year. I just wish I had more of an error to go on than just that stupid respawning one. --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you try xdm or maybe update gdm? Maybe something's wrong with gdm (as I

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Tim Wunder
I was thinking that your .xsession-errors file might contain a clue, but that doesn't come into play until you log in, I think... It IS possible that there's something specific to gdm and X 4.2.0 that's causing the problem. Because a file hasn't changed doesn't mean that something within it

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Ken Moffat
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:56:39 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Moffat wrote: who is one wagon short of circling the wagons. Techies love linux, but my wife hates it! She'll come around. Mine did. :-) It has taken the better part of 2 1/2 years though. It is just a

Re: install of XFree86-4.2.0 not quite right

2002-01-21 Thread Net Llama
--- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking that your .xsession-errors file might contain a clue, but that doesn't come into play until you log in, I think... Correct. It IS possible that there's something specific to gdm and X 4.2.0 that's causing the problem. Because a

Re: an interesting experience

2002-01-21 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 10:22:25 -0500 Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: --- Tim Wunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Net Llama wrote: snip Windoze will let you completely fubar the video settings to something above what the monitor will handle. Good luck getting that

Re: (no subject)

2002-01-21 Thread Collins Richey
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 15:18:09 -0500 Kurt Wall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scribbling feverishly on January 21, Douglas J Hunley managed to emit: dilyard root babbled on about: pong ignore him. he's a smart@$$ There are several such on this list. I, of course, am not one of them. ;-)

Re: Problem Identified

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams
Yes, I am. I resemble that remark. VBG Regards, Glenn Williams - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux User # 135678 since 1994 Amateur Radio Packeteer since 1988 - Original Message - From: Tyler Regas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 2:06 PM

RE: Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread kbb0927
Bruce, Not with a thinkpad, but an old Chicony. I bought a 2.5-3.5 power adapter and used DriveCopy 3.0 in my desktops to copy drive to drive with winbloze 98se, suse 7.2, col 3.1beta, etc. Then simply plugged back in the new drive in the laptop and away I went still using the 18G that was

RE: OT ABQ List Members

2002-01-21 Thread Tyler Regas
Yes, I am. I resemble that remark. VBG And I remark that resemblage SEG ___ Linux-users mailing list - http://linux.nf/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Subscribe/Unsubscribe info, Archives,and Digests are located at the above URL.

Red Hat and ISDN

2002-01-21 Thread Graeme Jensen
I've been trying for the past few months to get an ISDN internet connection up and running but to no avail. KDE finds my terminal adapter / modem OK and the provider settings are correct (Primary and Secondary DNS addresses, Passwords etc.) For some reason the process stalls with the message

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Ted Ozolins
At 09:03 PM 1/21/2002 -0500, you wrote: On Monday 21 January 2002 7 19:24 pm, Ken Moffat dropped these nuggets of information: [schnip] Hopefully they'll come around when they get tired of Win95 on the old P233 ;-) Lucky you, that's what I'm running as my main box still. Someday I'll get

Re: Red Hat and ISDN

2002-01-21 Thread Lee
Graeme Jensen wrote: I've been trying for the past few months to get an ISDN internet connection up and running but to no avail. KDE finds my terminal adapter / modem OK and the provider settings are correct (Primary and Secondary DNS addresses, Passwords etc.) For some reason the process

Re: IHOP OT

2002-01-21 Thread Myles Green
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 00:10:58 -0500 Tom Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like the closest to me here in Cincy is in Indy. If I don't get there sooner, I will have to make a stop off at one there when I go to see the Brickyard 400 in August. Maybe pay Kurt a visit since he is a

Re: way OT Adobe Premiere

2002-01-21 Thread Ian
Net Llama wrote: Greetings, I've got a potential side job where someone is looking for me to build them a windoze box with Adobe Premiere installed on it. This person is looking to do some digital video editing of home movies. In all honesty, i've never used Premiere, but since this is

OpenOffice 641c build

2002-01-21 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
I'm attemping to build OpenOffice 641c from the source tarball. I made it through the ./confgure in config_office after fixing an error in the test for the gpc programs. I then run tcsh source LinuxIntelEnv.Set ./bootstrap and then I get this after a minute or so:

Re: ping

2002-01-21 Thread Myles Green
... pong? On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 13:40:42 -0500 Douglas J Hunley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Douglas J Hunley (doug at hunley.homeip.net) - Linux User #174778 Admin: Linux StepByStep - http://linux.nf Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8

Re: OT ABQ List Members

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams
- Original Message - From: Andrew Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 5:09 PM Subject: Re: OT ABQ List Members Tyler Regas wrote: I guess I should have said that I am too G How nice. I've been work-related anti-social for quite some

Albuquerque LUG

2002-01-21 Thread Glenn Williams
Here's some info on the New Mexico Linux Users' Group: New Mexico Linux Users Group Contact James Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Postal address NMLUG c/o James Hamilton 5021 Indian School NE STE 600 Albuquerque NM 87110 USA Started on 1999-06-14 Size 130

Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 21 Jan 2002, at 12:57, Bill Campbell boldly uttered: BTW: When I got the new hard drive, I called IBM support to find out where to buy an extra mounting bracket for the new drive so I could just swap drives quickly without having to mess with screws and such. The support person said

Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Tuesday 22 January 2002 0:06 am, Philip J. Koenig wrote: On 21 Jan 2002, at 12:57, Bill Campbell boldly uttered: BTW: When I got the new hard drive, I called IBM support to find out where to buy an extra mounting bracket for the new drive so I could just swap drives quickly without

Re: Linux Mag OT

2002-01-21 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 21 Jan 2002, at 21:03, Tom Wilson boldly uttered: On Monday 21 January 2002 7 19:24 pm, Ken Moffat dropped these nuggets of information: [schnip] Hopefully they'll come around when they get tired of Win95 on the old P233 ;-) Lucky you, that's what I'm running as my main box

RE: Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Philip J. Koenig
On 21 Jan 2002, at 20:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] boldly uttered: Not with a thinkpad, but an old Chicony. I bought a 2.5-3.5 power adapter and used DriveCopy 3.0 in my desktops to copy drive to drive with winbloze 98se, suse 7.2, col 3.1beta, etc. Then simply plugged back in the new drive in

Re: Re: OT Thinkpad upgrade

2002-01-21 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Tuesday 22 January 2002 0:45 am, Philip J. Koenig wrote: As I mentioned earlier, by far the most elegant method if your Tpad supports it, is to get the 2nd HD adapter, and mount both HD's at the same time on the laptop.  Very elegant solution.  I'm pretty sure the Tpad 600's have that