Re: [WSG] layout - choices?

2007-02-23 Thread Designer
Barney Carroll wrote: But at the end of the day, {display: table} is just as ridiculous as div{display:inline} or span{display:block}. Besides, when I made table-based designs I often found myself nesting tables within tables, and I ended up with horribly deep code (a bit like Google ads,

Re: [WSG] layout - choices?

2007-02-23 Thread Designer
Rimantas Liubertas wrote: One of the (many) things I wish for is a grid tag. Something along the lines of the following (made up as I go along, so don't nitpick too much :-)): grid gridcellcontent/gridcell gridcelldifferent content/gridcell /grid This can then be CSS'd of

Re: [WSG] layout - choices?

2007-02-23 Thread Designer
Martin Heiden wrote: Bob, on Friday, February 23, 2007 at 12:19 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: grid gridcellcontent/gridcell gridcelldifferent content/gridcell /grid This can then be CSS'd of course, in the normal way. The important point though, is that the number of

[WSG] layout - choices?

2007-02-22 Thread Designer
Following on from recent conversations about floats etc, we can summarise by saying that we can have three basic choices: 1. #grid {display : table} #colalpha { width : 58%; padding-right :20px; display : table-cell; } #colbeta { width : 38%;

Re: [WSG] layout - choices?

2007-02-22 Thread Designer
Thanks to all who responded. I must say that I basically agree with most of what was said, but a few things still bother me, semantic-wise. Firstly, doing it 'properly' could be seen as using the following: #grid {display : table; } #colalpha { width : 28em; display :

[WSG] OT? - spam in forms

2007-02-13 Thread Designer
I seem to be going through a spate of getting spam in a form on one of my sites (the one in the link, below, actually.) So I tried using PHP to randomly display an image and getting the form user to input what it says. I still get spam! I'm presuming that this is because the spammer will

Re: [WSG] is html done? [was semantics]

2007-02-09 Thread Designer
Dan Dorman wrote: [snip] Just because I feel headerone or mysupercoolheadinglevela1abeachfrontavenue is a better way to specify a heading than h1, is it reasonable to expect a browser maker to cater to my linguistic whim? And by extension, to anyone's linguistic whim? Browsers don't handle any

Re: [WSG] is html done? [was semantics]

2007-02-09 Thread Designer
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Designer wrote: I'm going back to my original wishlist of yesterday: Wouldn't it be nice if we could get browsers to interpret ^ (or something) as meaning 'div id=' (and something else for 'class='). Then we could have, xml style code, such as: ^pageborder ^content

Re: [WSG] is html done? [was semantics]

2007-02-08 Thread Designer
Mike Wilson wrote: section id=sidebar div id=nav nl liHome/li liAbout/li liContact/li /nl /div div id=login form.../form /div div id=sponsors ul liChuck Norris/li liJack Bauer/li /ul div

[WSG] semantics : was-[HR tag and Semantics]

2007-02-07 Thread Designer
I know that this topic has dragged on a bit, but I am very interested in the development of 'our' language and the implications of all the things being discussed. Interestingly, I note the proposition that hr is to be replaced with separator in future versions of xhtml (2) : { hr Replaced

Re: [WSG] Correct way to mark up a quote and persons name

2007-02-07 Thread Designer
Web Man Walking wrote: Hello I am looking to mark-up something of the like: /I think Web Standards are excellent/ *Ed Henderson* My first guess was: blockquote pqI think Web Standards are excellent/q/p pciteEd Henderson/cite/p /blockquote Does anyone have any other ideas?

Re: [WSG] Correct way to mark up a quote and persons name

2007-02-07 Thread Designer
Christian Montoya wrote: That's visual styling there, not semantic! I would do the following: blockquote pqI think Web Standards are excellent/q/p citeEd Henderson/cite /blockquote q:before { content:''; } q:after{ content:''; } This will ensure that users only see one set of

Re: [WSG] HR tag and Semantics

2007-02-06 Thread Designer
Barney Carroll wrote: [snip] What I believe you're getting at... Is that 'horizontal rule' in itself does not 'mean' anything - it is off-putting because it is a tag whose name signifies a visual symbol which signifies an abstract value. Far better for all of us, I think, to have this

Re: [WSG] HR tag and Semantics

2007-02-06 Thread Designer
Barney Carroll wrote: @Designer: p separates text into individual blocks. big [snip] Regards, Barney *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

[WSG] Art and accessibility - my opinion ;)

2007-02-01 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
I'd like to present you the list of best100 e-motional designs, we're waiting for your opinions about our idea and choice ;) http://www.e-motionaldesign.com/blog/100-the-best-e-motional-websites-part-1-of-4/ Best Wishes Milosz A. Lodowski Art Director IceAge Design Squadron Be our Ally, Hire

Re: [WSG] Art and accessibility - my opinion ;)

2007-02-01 Thread Designer
Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer wrote: I'd like to present you the list of best100 e-motional designs, we're waiting for your opinions about our idea and choice ;) http://www.e-motionaldesign.com/blog/100-the-best-e-motional-websites-part-1-of-4/ Best Wishes Milosz A. Lodowski Art

Re: [WSG] Art and accessibility - my opinion ;)

2007-02-01 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
www.e-motionaldesign.com - Original Message - From: Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Art and accessibility - my opinion ;) On 2/1/07, Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Art and accessibility - my opinion ;)

2007-02-01 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
Duck ? Bob - I don't think so... There is a large difference between the word design/designer and code/coder, designer and design are connected with the pure art with a support of usability - code - that's only accesibility... but of course - that's only my opinion... Best Wishes Milosz

Re: [WSG] Art and accessibility - my opinion ;)

2007-02-01 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
opinion ;) On 2/1/07, Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you define accessible ? pure text ? Not fair. You picked these sites, so you have to define your criteria. The ball is in your court to answer that question. -- -- Christian Montoya

Re: [WSG] inaccesssibility for all

2007-01-25 Thread Designer
Barney Carroll wrote: [snip] The notion merits consideration: These incredibly 'inaccessible' services are some of the most incredibly accessed on the web. The times, they are a'changing. I've been observing (with some horror) the changing face of the web. Ebay, Google etc, Blogs

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
[...] Nothing bugs me more than a super-cool looking site that shows off the ability of the artist who built it, yet does nothing for the idea, product or service it promotes. Art for art's sake is fantastic. Businesses need more. Noah But any design without art, feeling and emotions

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
We can be artistic and accessible, and need to prove it time and time again to dispel the myth that accessible is ugly. Artists and techies can work together - I've done it before AND we were still talking to each other at the end ;-) -- Matthew Smith Of course Matthew - You've got right

Re: [WSG] AIMIA finalists

2007-01-23 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
Designer at 01/24/07 11:32... But any design without art, feeling and emotions is trivial and boring We can be artistic and accessible, and need to prove it time and time again to dispel the myth that accessible is ugly. Artists and techies can work together - I've done

[WSG] CSS Adviser?

2007-01-22 Thread Designer
Hello All, What's your general feeling about Adobe's CSS ADVISER? http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/communityengine/index.cfm?event=homepageproductId=1 Bob www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] IE7/CSS issues on a site

2007-01-22 Thread Designer
GALLAGHER Kevin S wrote: I have a site which seems to work fine in Firefox and IE6 but heard (I don't have IE7) that the navigation is not displaying correctly. Can someone with IE7 confirm this or not? http://www.snagedu.com/ Thanks, Kevin S Gallagher

Re: [WSG] Legitimate uses of b and i (and lang)

2007-01-18 Thread Designer
Katrina wrote: 2) Language usage such as Latin as this is a long standing convention in print and must be retained (thus not styled via CSS). Example: i lang=laLorem ispum/i I actually come across this situation from time to time and I have ummed and ahhed over what the best thing

[WSG] You definitely have to see...

2007-01-18 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2007/01/13/30-dark-designs-you-shouldve-seen/ :-) Best Wishes Milosz A. Lodowski Art Director IceAge Design Squadron Be our Ally, Hire our Guns...: www.iceagedesign.co.uk London Visit my PriveFolio: www.lodowski.eu - Be my Guest! Mobile contact: +44

Re: [WSG] Legitimate uses of b and i

2007-01-16 Thread Designer
Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: Hello Andrew, Does anyone know of any other legitimate uses of these tags? For the life of me I cannot think of one legitimate use for the b element. If it's bold then the reason is probably strong emphasis thus strong should be used. Otherwise it

Re: [WSG] Hello

2007-01-15 Thread Milosz A. Lodowski - New Media Designer
Hello for All Because I'm new here I'd like to introduce myself and say hallo for all ;) I am the New Media Designer, the Art Director and also Freelancer with 7 years of exp. in multimedia, web and print design. I have got the skills of illustrating, drawing, sketching and painting too

Re: SUP (was Re: [WSG] dreamweaver additional tags extension)

2007-01-07 Thread Designer
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: That is a visual convention, so I'd relegate it to CSS and just style them as spans (or even better, mark them up as links that jump to the reference, and style the links). They don't lose any meaning, in my opinion, if - when CSS is off/unavailable - they're not

Re: SUP (was Re: [WSG] dreamweaver additional tags extension)

2007-01-06 Thread Designer
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Designer wrote: I don't want to start the argument all over again, Patrick, but I had occasion to use SUP recently so I wondered how you'd do it instead? I presume you'd define it in CSS with a smaller font and bottom padding, but it seems a bit like overkill

Re: *** SPAM *** Re: [WSG] dreamweaver additional tags extension

2007-01-05 Thread Designer
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: I'm still convinced that SUB and SUP are primarily presentational http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg@webstandardsgroup.org/msg24851.html so I wouldn't really want to include those. P I don't want to start the argument all over again, Patrick, but I had occasion to use SUP

[WSG] New UK rules

2007-01-03 Thread Designer
My service provider sent the following out in the latest newsletter. I was not aware of this, so in case any of you weren't aware either, I include it here: REGULATION ISSUE From today, companies in the UK must include certain information on their Web sites and in their e-mail footers or

Re: [WSG] Table conflicts in Firefox

2006-12-28 Thread Designer
Charith De Silva wrote: Hi all, Can someone please explain me why firefox displays a space between tables. I tested the same pages with the IE but it works fine. thank you. Charith. *** List Guidelines:

[WSG] OT - maybe: quote or word of the day

2006-12-07 Thread Designer
I am after a simple 'quote of the day' or 'word of the day' type thing for a client. Naturally, I want it to be xhtml compliant, and easily formatted by me. My initial search hasn't produced anything worth having. Can anyone recommend something? Many thanks -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland

Re: [WSG] OT - maybe: quote or word of the day

2006-12-07 Thread Designer
Raena wrote: On 12/7/06, *Designer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am after a simple 'quote of the day' or 'word of the day' type thing for a client. Naturally, I want it to be xhtml compliant, and easily formatted by me. My initial search hasn't produced

Re: [WSG] best way to style the Tags?

2006-11-07 Thread Designer
Dmitry Baranovskiy wrote: Hi Sarah, Because, semantically thinking, tags are not headers. And also you could have more than 6 different weights. best regards, Dmitry Baranovskiy On 07/11/2006, at 11:05 AM, Sarah Peeke (XERT) wrote: Perhaps I'm missing something, but why not use h2, h3,

Re: [WSG] Additional space between sentences ?

2006-11-06 Thread Designer
Barney Carroll wrote: 'The point'. Very interesting notion. Presumably, sticking any kind of extra markup in is going to cause you to have to put in as much attention, effort and typing (at least) as putting in the space manually, and css can't yet select sub-element 'objects'. So seeing as

Re: [WSG] Additional space between sentences ?

2006-11-02 Thread Designer
Nick Roper wrote: Hi Group, A client has requested that the content on their site has two spaces between the end of one sentence and the start of the next. We could do it by using non-breaking spaces, but is there a better way of achieving this - possibly with CSS? Thanks in anticipation.

Re: [WSG] Flash is more accessible than CSS?

2006-10-31 Thread Designer
Trevor Boult wrote: Hi All, Just my penneth worth. I have always said anything that needs a plugin is automaticaly un-accessable. Trevor. (the following is NOT aimed at Trevor - I am merely illustrating a point) I have always thought that anything which uses a browser is just a pain in

[WSG] styling the optgroup

2006-10-20 Thread Designer
Am I correct in thinking that styling the optgroup (and label) with CSS simply doesn't work? I am trying to get some vertical space around the label element, but so far my expts have produced no effect whatsoever. I've googled this, but only found a 2004 ref which seems a bit bleak. As it's

[WSG] Re: Double space after a period

2006-10-16 Thread Designer
I've looked around for a stable solution which doesn't involve putting nbsp, emsp; etc all over the content (that's presentational :-) ) and can only come up with using the old s tag (for strikeout): s{ padding-right: 1em; text-decoration : none; } then, blah blahs./sblah blah. It

[WSG] Re: [css-d] Double space after a period]

2006-10-15 Thread Designer
Chris Williams wrote: I have this problem, and I use nbsp;space and not nbsp;nbsp;. I find that works, and I haven't seen the space at the beginning problem. It seems that UA's can handle the nbsp; at the end of the line OK. I do this replacement with a simple regex in my PHP code. HTH,

[WSG] Re: [css-d] Double space after a period]

2006-10-15 Thread Designer
Whoops! Sorry - sent to wrong list! Chris Williams wrote: I have this problem, and I use nbsp;space and not nbsp;nbsp;. I find that works, and I haven't seen the space at the beginning problem. It seems that UA's can handle the nbsp; at the end of the line OK. I do this replacement with

Re: [WSG] Validate multiple (X)HTML pages

2006-09-25 Thread Designer
Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, anyone know a good site/piece of software you can get to check your whole site for validation errors? Would speed things up instead of having to do them one at a time. Another bonus would be one that accepts password information on protected sites. Cheers Paul

[WSG] CSS confusion

2006-09-23 Thread Designer
In the recent 'Links for light reading', the author of: http://www.jakpsatweb.cz/css/css-vertical-center-solution.html Uses the following: #outer {height: 400px; overflow: hidden; position: relative;} #outer[id] {display: table; position: static;} and I don't understand the [id] bit. I've

[WSG] browser font sizing - was [ In-page font sizer]

2006-09-23 Thread Designer
Justin Carter wrote: On 9/23/06, Christian Heilmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When it comes down to it, font resizers are fancy toys as an excuse for a design that has too small fonts from the start. I do agree, although on some occassions it's also a request from a client where they have an

[WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Designer
Elliot Schoemaker wrote: [snipped] Has this become a philosophical discussion yet? I quite like the idea of such a topic. - Elliot OK, so how far do we take this thinking on semantics etc. For example, many people use a div called 'header'. Suppose I decide to put this at the bottom?!!!

Re: [WSG] Semantics - (was : class names and IDs (which was p:first-line))

2006-09-07 Thread Designer
Tony Crockford wrote: Hmmm... I think we could take this too far. if html contains head and body, why cant body contain header, content and footer yes they are positional. but there has to be some structural semantics as well surely? (we accept that head comes before body...) we also

Re: class names and IDs (was Re: [WSG] p:first-line)

2006-09-06 Thread Designer
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Maybe it's philosophical hairsplitting, but indent still describes the visual effect you're trying to achieve, rather than being a name describing either the function or a characteristic of the content itself. IMHO first falls under that second category (it's an

Re: [WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-06 Thread Designer
Matthew Pennell wrote: If all you're trying to do is indent the first line of each paragraph, you don't need to use :first-line at all. #description p { text-indent: 3em; } Amazing! I'd have expected that to indent the whole paragraph! Thanks Matthew, and to all others who responded. --

[WSG] p:first-line

2006-09-05 Thread Designer
Hello everyone, I think I'm cracking up! I'm trying to use: #description p:first-line { margin-left : 3em; } and it refuses to take any notice of me! However, if I use: #description p:first-line { color : #f00; } that works fine. Can anyone shed any light on this? The full

Re: [WSG] print style sheet - background problem

2006-09-02 Thread Designer
Thanks to all who replied. Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote: How about adding/changing a border weight or style around that .event date cell or adding an overline-underline on the date number itself on the print style sheet so you don't have to rely on a color? This should circumvent the problem

Re: [WSG] font standards today

2006-08-25 Thread Designer
Townson, Chris wrote: ... you also cannot _resize_ text which is represented using graphics. Unless you use opera, of course! One of my bete noires is sites which break when the text is resized a couple of notches up. I see this _so_ often, and it irks me. Again, the zoom feature of Opera

Re: [WSG] font standards today

2006-08-25 Thread Designer
Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote: . . . lot's of sensible stuff, as indeed do many others. My point about Opera's zoom is mainly concerned with being able to make the graphics expand at the same rate as the textual matter. This relationship has always been a problem to me, as I find the text

Re: [WSG] target=_blank

2006-08-15 Thread Designer
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Now that websites are moving more towards application style, they should really behave like applications as we are accustomed to. And a fact is that applications require pop-up windows at certain stages. Mostly when information is provided that falls

[WSG] target='anything' : was [target=_blank]

2006-08-15 Thread Designer
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: Sometimes even web standards can be wrong. I do not think this discussion is so much about personal preference as it is about the question whether this particular web standard is correct or not. People who decide on Web Standards can make mistakes. That's

[WSG] correct markup for frames? : was [target=_blank]

2006-08-15 Thread Designer
Tony Crockford wrote: Eh? if you use the frameset DTD then target is valid. you can't use frames in a valid way without the frameset DTD, so what are you talking about? time for me to drop out of this thread in sheer frustration. ;o) Hi Tony, AFAIK, the files that are used to make up the

Re: [WSG] correct markup for frames? : was [target=_blank]

2006-08-15 Thread Designer
Tony Crockford wrote: Designer wrote: No matter which way you look at it, it doesn't make sense. what doesn't make sense is why you would use a strict doctype for pages that are included in a frameset? I'm just banging my head against the wall here! The reason I'd use a strict doctype

Re: [WSG] target=_blank

2006-08-14 Thread Designer
Christian Heilmann wrote: For framesets, where it is a necessity you have XHTML Frameset as the Doctype. Is there something I'm missing here? If you make a frameset, the pages which constitute the actual frames are not using a frameset doctype, so the problem of validity is the same as any

Re: [WSG] target=_blank

2006-08-14 Thread Designer
Christian Heilmann wrote: On 8/14/06, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian Heilmann wrote: For framesets, where it is a necessity you have XHTML Frameset as the Doctype. Is there something I'm missing here? If you make a frameset, the pages which constitute the actual frames

Re: [WSG] Branding - Accessible, Unobtrusive and Semantic

2006-08-12 Thread Designer
Paul Novitski wrote: At 11:09 AM 8/11/2006, Designer wrote: Richard Czeiger wrote: Hi all :o) Just thought I'd throw a bit of code out there and see if anyone thinks it's useful.. Unobtrusive Semantic Branding http://www.grafx.com.au/dik/branding.html Yes, it's interesting

Re: [WSG] Branding - Accessible, Unobtrusive and Semantic

2006-08-11 Thread Designer
Richard Czeiger wrote: Hi all :o) Just thought I'd throw a bit of code out there and see if anyone thinks it's useful.. Unobtrusive Semantic Branding http://www.grafx.com.au/dik/branding.html Yes, it's interesting - but is there an advantage over pure CSS? see [1]. It seems simple,

Re: [WSG] Standards Table Layout

2006-07-30 Thread Designer
, could someone provide examples of standards based retro-fitted table design? It is hoped seeing clean semantic code and CSS used with low-bandwidth tables, will inspire greater confidence in CSS being used solely for positioning and styling. Return True, CK Principal/Designer/Programmer

[WSG] using DOM to solve text-size problems.

2006-07-29 Thread Designer
I have been looking at ways to overcome the IE problem of producing weeny (unreadable) text on em-based sites when a small text-size is selected in the browser, and I was surprised how little I found. I did find Matt Round's work on www.malevolent.com but I'm wondering if anyone has improved

Re: [WSG] Displaying page in different resolutions

2006-07-27 Thread Designer
Nick Cowie wrote: It is a little radical but you could use http://nickcowie.com/xtras/fontsize4.js to form the basis of a script that changes font size based on browser window width, so users get one version of the website at 800px wide screens and another on 1000px wide screens. Hi

Re: [WSG] target=_blank

2006-07-25 Thread Designer
TuteC wrote: Hello everyone. I have a web page that I use as a public favorites. I have around a hundred different links to outside sites, and I use the target=blank for each one. I searched at W3schools for a way to making all the links in the page target=blank with CSS but couldn´t find one.

[WSG] working solutions - was [Rounded Corners]

2006-07-25 Thread Designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, I know that you didn't intend any offence, and I appreciate that I did not give the answer that the poster was hoping for, but do I need to remind everyone of the title of this forum? As long as we fail to implement existing standards such as border-radius, IE can

Re: [WSG] Rounded Corners

2006-07-24 Thread Designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: None of these solutions have much to do with semantics, and none of them appear to be fool-proof. If at all possible, stick with the standards - CSS3 includes a declaration for rounded corners, which has been supported by Mozilla for a long time. Mike - Good

Re: [WSG] Alphabetical Listing Buttons

2006-07-11 Thread Designer
Richard Czeiger wrote: Gaspar! Nice solution! Cleanest yet! Have to say - I'm not a fan of Bob's approach. Yes, tables would solve a lot of the problems neatly. But sorry, it's simply not tabular data and come re-design time, tables simly don't have the flexibility of semantics. Who knows,

Re: [WSG] Alphabetical Listing Buttons - What are you thiinking???

2006-07-11 Thread Designer
Ted Drake wrote: For anyone that just joined this list. If Felix was starting to sound reasonable, please take some time to read Eric Meyer, the W3C, Zeldman.com, simplebits.com, and many other sites that accurately describe semantic markup. and, whilst you're reading Zeldman, take note of the

Re: [WSG] Re: what do you use instead of embed

2006-07-10 Thread Designer
pepelsbey wrote: I know this may sound stupid and dumb but is there a tag or something that you would use instead of an embed Just asking as it comes up as a warning when I valiadate a page im coding at the moment. A method suggested to me by Bert Doorn seems excellent, and is very

[WSG] IE and image markup white space

2006-07-03 Thread Designer
Dear Listees, I have a number of thumbnail images in a div, presented as three rows. (see [1] for example) My problem is that, in IE, I get a small horizontal line appearing in the gap between the images. Someone told me ages ago that the trick was to remove all whitespace between the

Re: [WSG] WCAG 1.0 AAA Rating

2006-06-30 Thread Designer
Jan Brasna wrote: I think the ball is on the side of browser vendors. This should be UI/UA thing, not a job for the website itself. Absolutely! And lets add a page-zoom (Like Opera) as a must for ALL browsers . . . -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK)

Re: [WSG] Jello variation

2006-06-13 Thread Designer
Tom Livingston wrote: On 6/10/06 4:50 AM, Designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I cracking up? Is it better now? http://66.155.251.18/mlinc.com/test/index2.html [thanks Francky] Seems fine now! -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk

Re: [WSG] domain display and hosting

2006-06-12 Thread Designer
Lea de Groot wrote: Designer wrote: The way the hosting company offer to overcome this is to wrap the whole thing in a frameset, and indeed it works, except that every page appears as www.kernowimages.com and you can't get to 'view source' or bookmark. It's a mess, and obviously isn't good

Re: [WSG] Jello variation

2006-06-09 Thread Designer
Tom Livingston wrote: Hello list, I am playing with a variation of Mike Purvis' jello layout (a variation for me anyway - you may have seen/done this) to make the entire layout scale proportionally (as opposed to just allowing for the text to get bigger/smaller). Can you take a peek - beat on

Re: [WSG] Old School Custom Font Face

2006-06-09 Thread Designer
Felix Miata wrote: All you're really doing is trying to guarantee your visitor doesn't get to see his preferred font-family. Apart from the fact that in the real world most users don't have a 'preferred font family', I (for one) want to be educated, inspired etc when I look at sites, I don't

Re: [WSG] Spans Padding

2006-06-09 Thread Designer
Ryan Moore wrote: I am having a real problem with the this mark up. .featured_listing { clear:both; display:block; margin:0 0 1.5em 0; } .featured_image { height:158px; width:240px; float:left; } .featured_listings_details { clear:none; margin:0; list-style:none; padding:0; }

Re: [WSG] More on printing

2006-06-08 Thread Designer
David Hucklesby wrote: On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 13:05:35 +0100, Designer wrote: [...] I have a site with the potential to print out some thirty different pages, with each printout length between 1 page and 4. Each page has small illustrations scattered unevenly amongst the text, and I'm finding

[WSG] More on printing

2006-06-07 Thread Designer
Dear listers, Is there anyone out there with experience of avoiding page breaks in daft places? I have a site with the potential to print out some thirty different pages, with each printout length between 1 page and 4. Each page has small illustrations scattered unevenly amongst the text,

Re: [WSG] Print style sheets - still struggling!

2006-06-06 Thread Designer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do come into it if you print things any other way - many users don't trust 'print links' for various reasons, and the appearance of the full page is not exactly great if all frames are printed on one page - scroll bars aren't very useful on paper! Mike Fair point

Re: [WSG] Spans Padding

2006-06-05 Thread Designer
Ryan Moore wrote: I am having a real problem with the this mark up. .featured_listing { clear:both; display:block; margin:0 0 1.5em 0; } .featured_image { height:158px; width:240px; float:left; } .featured_listings_details { clear:none; margin:0; list-style:none; padding:0; }

Re: [WSG] Print style sheets - still struggling!

2006-06-05 Thread Designer
Donna Jones wrote: Hi Bob: I am still battling with print style sheets - In particular, I have several property descriptions on the holiday site, [1], and I'm failing to get a decent print out. Some are OK, some are awful, and I can't see what the difference is. If you go to the site,

Re: [WSG] Print style sheets

2006-06-03 Thread Designer
Designer wrote: I am still battling with print style sheets - In particular, I have several property descriptions on the holiday site, [1], and I'm failing to get a decent print out. Some are OK, some are awful, and I can't see what the difference is. If you go to the site, pick 'holiday

[WSG] Print style sheets - still struggling!

2006-06-02 Thread Designer
I am still battling with print style sheets - In particular, I have several property descriptions on the holiday site, [1], and I'm failing to get a decent print out. Some are OK, some are awful, and I can't see what the difference is. If you go to the site, pick 'holiday homes', then

Re: [WSG] Multiple columns

2006-05-23 Thread Designer
Hi Angus, Visually Insane Genetically Modified Organism wrote: This might be off topic so please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am working on converting a calendar that fits my needs a little closer and What I understand to be a simpler code that probably will work in browsers from IE 5.x and

[WSG] div#links, or #links?

2006-05-23 Thread Designer
In a different context, Mathew Patterson wrote: I would suggest you look at Eric Myer's website, here: http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/edge/popups/demo2.html I've noticed before that Mr Meyer quite often uses stuff like: [1] div#links a:hover img {position: absolute; etc.

Re: [WSG] print styles and all that.

2006-05-21 Thread Designer
Donna Jones wrote: Wonder what Eric meant by shift the floats - curious, do you still have the link? Hi Donna, Yep - http://www.alistapart.com/articles/goingtoprint/ I've done better since I put them back, I must say! -- Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK)

[WSG] print styles and all that.

2006-05-19 Thread Designer
Maybe I'm being dumb here, but maybe not, so I'll risk it. :-) I'm doing a template for a description of a holiday home, with a couple of pictures scattered in the text. Using xhtml (strict), but served as text/html (sorry, Lachlan :-) and using floats to position them. No problem. See[1].

Re: [WSG] print styles and all that.

2006-05-19 Thread Designer
Daniel Champion wrote: Bob wrote: the main problem is I don't know how to get word wrap around the images. Anyone? Just float them, as you've done in houses.css. When I produce print style sheets I normally start with a copy of my screen stylesheet (or composite if there are more

Re: *** SPAM *** Re: [WSG] Tables - you can still use them in web design article

2006-05-12 Thread Designer
Nick Lo wrote: [snip] Applying this logic from the article... the world is full of things which were originally designed for one purpose, but which people found could be used for an entirely different purpose. ...as an argument for using tables for layout is as sensible as telling people

Re: [WSG] duplicate id

2006-05-10 Thread Designer
Peter Williams wrote: Your question is somewhat ambiguous, but if you need to style an element repeatedly on a page you should use a class, not an id. CSS .prettything {styles;} Markup span class=prettythingPretty stuff/span With a class defined using just the dot nomenclature you could use

Re: [WSG] Target attribute - coming or going?

2006-05-05 Thread Designer
Peter Dominic Ryan wrote: To add my 2¢ ... I say that I think well designed and executed popups are a great enhancement to the user experience … there is nothing I hate more than losing my pathway because I wanted to check out some ancilliary information on a site. As always, it comes down

Re: [WSG] frames for HTML

2006-05-04 Thread Designer
Michael Yeaney wrote: While frames may be horrible for search engine crawling and bookmarking, IMO they are a godsend for web-delivered rich applications (i.e., when you don't want people jump in at random, and you need to give the solid feel of a 'real' desktop app.)these types of things

Re: [WSG] Target attribute - coming or going?

2006-05-04 Thread Designer
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Nils Kr. Falch wrote: On 5/4/06, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The one argument that may trump the other arguments is that there's a target property in the CSS3 Hyperlink module working draft. Does this mean that they have seen the error of removing the target attribute

[Fwd: Re: [WSG] min-width and max-width - [was Pixel to Em conversion]]

2006-04-28 Thread Designer
Thanks to those who responded on this. I'll play with the various suggestions over the weekend and see where I end up! Best Regards, Bob McClelland Cornwall (UK) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for

[WSG] min-width and max-width - [was Pixel to Em conversion]

2006-04-27 Thread Designer
As soon as I see someone mention 'min-width' or 'max-width' I despair and move on to the next message. The reason? Because I know that somewhere between 75 and 90% of the site viewers will see a mess. (I mean IE, of course). Yes, I do know that with a lot of messy code it is

Re: [WSG] Creative Commons

2006-04-26 Thread Designer
Lachlan Hunt wrote: Don't use the RDF nonsense they propose for use within (X)HTML that is actually hidden within a comment. If you're going to embed it in the file, it needs to be done properly in an XML document and cannot be done for HTML or XHTML served as text/html. You could, however,

Re: [WSG] Web pages needed for testing

2006-04-21 Thread Designer
Tom Worthington wrote: Can anyone suggest some poorly designed web pages for web design students to take apart? Preferably these would be from public institutions. The students at are learning web page design http://www.tomw.net.au/2005/wd/. So I need some badly designed web pages for

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