[MacGroup] Thank-you

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Lee,

Thank you so very much for all the years and efforts you have put in with the 
MacUser Group. I know you are not abandoning us but you have kept us going and 
I appreciate your efforts.

Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] New Mailing List

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks so much Jonathan.


> On Feb 10, 2020, at 11:18 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> I’m warming to the idea of a hosted solution, rather than something in my 
> closet. While I am open to that, there are issues with spam filtering that 
> likes to block people from certain addresses. Running your own server gets to 
> be a headache of spam swatting and getting filterers to un-blacklist you.
> 
> I looked at groups.io and gaggle.com. They seem to make it easy. That way a 
> couple of us could have the keys to the kingdom and in the unfortunate event 
> one of us stepped in front of a speeding taco truck (inadvertently or not) 
> the other would still be able to support the group.
> 
> Groups.io is free, so let's try that. I’ll post a link as soon as it’s set up.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 10:40 PM, macgroup-requ...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> From: LONA LIVERS 
>> Subject: [MacGroup] New mailing list
>> Date: February 10, 2020 at 10:40:27 PM EST
>> To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
>> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please count me in 
>> 
>> Check out this site as it seems to work just like MacGroup. I belong to a 
>> group there.
>> 
>> https://groups.io/
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Re: [MacGroup] Re.: New Mac Group list

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Hi Jonathan,

Go for it. I don’t have the time or the skills. So please do get it going.

Harry
> On Feb 10, 2020, at 7:44 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> I also don’t do FaceBook; I LIKE the focused bandwidth of a listserv. I do 
> NOT like the massive time-sink that is characteristic of the popular social 
> media sites.
> 
> I asked Lee if he wanted to work with me to get it up and running elsewhere 
> and he told me that Bill Rising volunteered to take it over. I reached out to 
> Bill to offer support and he hasn’t gotten back to me.
> 
> I have plenty of bandwidth, and hardware to put it on.
> 
> Alternatively, I ran across a pretty cool listserv alternative called Gaggle 
> that might fit our needs. It’s only $5 a month for up to 50 members (free for 
> up to 20). I don’t know how many people we have, so I have no idea where we 
> would fall on that spectrum. 
> 
> Do we have a consensus building in any particular direction or should someone 
> just declare it and the rest can decide whether they want to join or not?
> 
> What does everyone thinK?
> 
> Is Bill on here? Do you have a plan yet?
> 
> We should probably decide sooner rather than later.
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 6:58 PM, Brian ONeal  wrote:
>> 
>> My first thought is getting everyone to reply with their email address who 
>> wants to be included on any new group so that there is a clean list. 
>> Lee will not have to devote any time to any sort of exporting addresses of 
>> current people, and those who are long gone for a new list. There are four 
>> days left to start something. I don’t want me or anyone else to miss out if 
>> we don’t come together with something in time. 
>> 
>> I, like Bill and a couple others, will not be part of any social media 
>> group(face book). 
>> But do count me in as one who will still be participating otherwise. 
>> 
>> All others please reply to this email to count yourself in. 
>> 
>> 
>> Thank you so much Lee for what you have given us of your time and effort for 
>> so long. We all are truly appreciative of you. 
>> 
>> Brian
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Re: [MacGroup] PIA

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Yep!

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 6:50 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Isn’t it sad Harry that after Friday you won’t have any help with a question 
> such as this!!
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I went to the Fitbit web site <https://www.fitbit.com> with VPN turned on 
>> and received this message:
>> 
>> Error 1006 Ray ID: 5631d1793e8fe1be • 2020-02-10 23:21:14 UTC
>> Access denied
>> What happened?
>> The owner of this website (www.fitbit.com) has banned your IP address 
>> (104.200.153.95).
>> Cloudflare Ray ID: 5631d1793e8fe1be • Your IP: 104.200.153.95 • Performance 
>> & security by Cloudflare
>> 
>> 
>> I turned off PIA and was able to access the web page.
>> 
>> 
>> Harry Jacobson-Beyer
>> harr...@me.com
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] New Mac Group list

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I am in.
Thanks to whomever will organize the list.

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 6:27 PM, Brian ONeal  wrote:
> 
> My first thought is getting everyone to reply with their email address who 
> wants to be included on any new group so that there is a clean list. 
> Lee will not have to devote any time to any sort of exporting addresses of 
> current people, and those who are long gone for a new list. There are four 
> days left to start something. I don’t want me or anyone else to miss out if 
> we don’t come together with something in time. 
> 
> I, like Bill and a couple others, will not be part of any social media 
> group(face book). 
> But do count me in as one who will still be participating otherwise. 
> 
> All others please reply to this email to count yourself in. 
> 
> 
> Thank you so much Lee for what you have given us of your time and effort for 
> so long. We all are truly appreciative of you. 
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
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[MacGroup] PIA

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I went to the Fitbit web site <https://www.fitbit.com> with VPN turned on and 
received this message:

Error 1006 Ray ID: 5631d1793e8fe1be • 2020-02-10 23:21:14 UTC
Access denied
What happened?
The owner of this website (www.fitbit.com) has banned your IP address 
(104.200.153.95).
Cloudflare Ray ID: 5631d1793e8fe1be • Your IP: 104.200.153.95 • Performance & 
security by Cloudflare


I turned off PIA and was able to access the web page.


Harry Jacobson-Beyer
harr...@me.com



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Re: [MacGroup] Nostalgia

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

are you talking about an online meeting or a bricks and mortar meeting??

Just curious how many people would come to a bricks and mortar meeting in a 
private home in Louisville?

What about at TechRestore or MacAuthority?


> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> Nothing stopping anyone from declaring a time and place for a meetup.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2020, at 12:00 PM, James Priest  wrote:
>> 
>> Why can’t we set up a windows or Dropbox or other group. It me nice to 
>> actually have a few meetings and speakers. 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] The end of MacGroup

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Dan,
I remember the LAUG. I never had a legs but I loved that apple //e. I learned 
to program in Basic on it and I also had taken an Adult Ed class through UofL 
and worked on a TRS80 but the Apple was much more fun. I had tricked mine out 
with two 3.5 inch disk drive and stopped using the 5.25 drives.

I had a friend who was a psychology professor at Michigan State. His area was 
the judicial system. He had a list of judges on the schools mainframe and used 
his //e at home to interface with that to create mailing labels. He had 
programmed in, I believe, fortran to make the interface work.

I really liked the apple // version of Appleworks and missed it dearly after I 
got my Mac. I thought it could do many more things better early on than the Mac 
version.

Oh well. I am probably on my 7th or 8th Mac now and I love it.

Harry

> On Feb 4, 2020, at 8:21 PM, Dan Crutcher  wrote:
> 
> Harry, I remember those days as well. I think we first met at a LAUG 
> (Louisville Apple Users Group) meeting, probably in the mid-‘80s. I also 
> remember times spent in Tom Guenthner’s basement talking about LAUG and how 
> we could get more participants.
> 
> In 1987 I bought an Apple IIgs (having previously owned a IIe) and thought 
> I’d been transported to computer heaven, with its 2.8 MHz, 16-bit processor. 
> I souped it up with a RamKeeper card and a 30 MB hard drive ($600). Because 
> the GS was text-based (in its ProDOS mode) it was incredibly fast: boot time 
> was approximately 2 seconds. It also had a Maclike graphical user interface 
> that I rarely used because it was so slow. 
> 
> You may recall that there was a bit of tension between the Apple II folks and 
> the Mac users at LAUG meetings in the early days of Mac. Us IIGS users found 
> the Macs (SE’s at that time?) intriguing but way too expensive and laughably 
> slow with its clunky GUI. And a lot of us IIers were pissed off that Apple 
> was devoting all its resources to the Mac and leaving the II series twisting 
> in the wind. At that time the Apple II was the cash cow that was supporting 
> the newfangled Macs and it felt traitorous that Apple abandoned it. 
> 
> Those LAUG meetings were also where I met Lee, who was the first one I can 
> remember to own a Mac. He was pretty sure that the Mac was the wave of the 
> future and I thought he was a bit daft. Look how that turned out. 
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Lee,
>> 
>> Thanks so much for the long ride. I first discovered our little group when 
>> you and Tom Guenthner managed a bulletin board which I accessed with a dial 
>> up modem from my Apple //e. When Apple came out with the Apple //e enhanced 
>> model Tom upgraded my computer.
>> 
>> One of my favorite memories was the group (led by Lee and Tom) building a 
>> 60mb hard drive for group members. You found a box, cables, controller 
>> board, and hard drive the computer shopper and we met at someone’s house and 
>> you helped us put it all together. It cost us about $500 per unit. I used 
>> that drive on my Apple //e. When I got my first Mac I reformatted it and 
>> used it with my Mac.
>> 
>> I remember meetings at the Mac Store on Breckinridge Lane - it’s now Simply 
>> Mac and they have moved from that location. We moved to the government 
>> center on Shelbyville Rd. I think at some point the membership dwindled and 
>> then you, Lee, set up this list serve.
>> 
>> To everyone who has ever submitted a question to the group and/or supplied 
>> an answer a heartfelt Thank-you. And to Lee we ALL owe you a huge thanks and 
>> a round of applause for all the time and effort you spent setting up the 
>> group and answering questions.
>> 
>> See you in the could.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The Instructional Technology people at the University of Louisville have 
>>> decided departmental mail servers are an unacceptable security risk. They 
>>> are going to block external access to them beginning February 15. After 
>>> they do this, it won’t be possible to host MacGroup on its present server. 
>>> Unless another server can be found, the list will no longer be available 
>>> after that date.
>>> 
>>> L^2
>>> 
>>> PS/ This list has had a long lifetime, compared to most mailing lists. My 
>>> archives date back to July 16, 2007 and contain over 16,000 messages. When 
>>> I first set up this list I had no idea it would last more than twelve years 
>>> and migrate through at least three machine upgrades.
>>> 
>&

Re: [MacGroup] The end of MacGroup

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Lee,

Thanks so much for the long ride. I first discovered our little group when you 
and Tom Guenthner managed a bulletin board which I accessed with a dial up 
modem from my Apple //e. When Apple came out with the Apple //e enhanced model 
Tom upgraded my computer.

One of my favorite memories was the group (led by Lee and Tom) building a 60mb 
hard drive for group members. You found a box, cables, controller board, and 
hard drive the computer shopper and we met at someone’s house and you helped us 
put it all together. It cost us about $500 per unit. I used that drive on my 
Apple //e. When I got my first Mac I reformatted it and used it with my Mac.

I remember meetings at the Mac Store on Breckinridge Lane - it’s now Simply Mac 
and they have moved from that location. We moved to the government center on 
Shelbyville Rd. I think at some point the membership dwindled and then you, 
Lee, set up this list serve.

To everyone who has ever submitted a question to the group and/or supplied an 
answer a heartfelt Thank-you. And to Lee we ALL owe you a huge thanks and a 
round of applause for all the time and effort you spent setting up the group 
and answering questions.

See you in the could.

Harry




> On Feb 4, 2020, at 2:25 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> The Instructional Technology people at the University of Louisville have 
> decided departmental mail servers are an unacceptable security risk. They are 
> going to block external access to them beginning February 15. After they do 
> this, it won’t be possible to host MacGroup on its present server. Unless 
> another server can be found, the list will no longer be available after that 
> date.
> 
> L^2
> 
> PS/ This list has had a long lifetime, compared to most mailing lists. My 
> archives date back to July 16, 2007 and contain over 16,000 messages. When I 
> first set up this list I had no idea it would last more than twelve years and 
> migrate through at least three machine upgrades.
> 
> 
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[MacGroup] PIA and blocked websites

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

More and more often I am finding that I have to disconnect from PIA in order to 
access a website. I get a message that says something like Sorry we can’t 
connect to our server. I disconnect PIA and I can connect to the web site.

The most recent site was office depot.

Anybody else finding this to be true.

Thanks.

Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] downloading photos from my iphone, iPad, iCloud etc. to my computer

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,
What is Apple’s photo software to which you refer?
> On Jan 9, 2020, at 7:27 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> I wanted to follow up on the photo imports off the iPhone being imported into 
> Apple’s Photo software.
> 
> Turns out there were close to 1,400 off the iPhone.
> 
>  Now that it’s been 24 hours I have gone thought all those I track.  There 
> are a total of 26, they are in a grid similar to this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I went though of the 26 that I felt would have been on the phone….during the 
> 24 hours each person had anywhere from 5 additional photo’s to 99 new photos 
> with that person in them.
> 
> This is the most powerful way to keep an updates record of photo’s with 
> persons of interest you are wanting to search for them in the future.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 8:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> When I download my photos from iCloud or my iPad or my iPhone they are not 
>> full resolution. 
>> 
>> In the past I used imageCapture to download the photos, but for the last 
>> year or more it doesn’t work well - for example, the photos are not in 
>> chronological order and it does not load all the images in the window. 
>> Yesterday, I took a bunch of photos and can’t find them in the image capture 
>> window.
>> 
>> I need full resolution photos to edit them in Photoshop.
>> 
>> In iPhoto preferences under iCloud, there is an item “Download Originals to 
>> this Mac: Store original photos and videos on this Mac. Choose this option 
>> if you want to access full-resolution versions of your entire library, even 
>> when off line.”
>> 
>> 
>> Thats’s what I have done but it is cumbersome. I wish ImageCapture worked 
>> today like it did a couple of years ago. My guess is they haven’t updated 
>> the app to work with todays OS and iOS.
>> 
>> Does anyone know of an app that does what image capture does but works more 
>> efficiently than the version I have which is 5 years old.
>> 
>> I would love a newer version but can’t find one.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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[MacGroup] downloading photos from my iphone, iPad, iCloud etc. to my computer

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

When I download my photos from iCloud or my iPad or my iPhone they are not full 
resolution. 

In the past I used imageCapture to download the photos, but for the last year 
or more it doesn’t work well - for example, the photos are not in chronological 
order and it does not load all the images in the window. Yesterday, I took a 
bunch of photos and can’t find them in the image capture window.

I need full resolution photos to edit them in Photoshop.

In iPhoto preferences under iCloud, there is an item “Download Originals to 
this Mac: Store original photos and videos on this Mac. Choose this option if 
you want to access full-resolution versions of your entire library, even when 
off line.”


Thats’s what I have done but it is cumbersome. I wish ImageCapture worked today 
like it did a couple of years ago. My guess is they haven’t updated the app to 
work with todays OS and iOS.

Does anyone know of an app that does what image capture does but works more 
efficiently than the version I have which is 5 years old.

I would love a newer version but can’t find one.

Thanks.

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Re: [MacGroup] AKG Condenser Mic

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Great. I’ll see you between 10:30 & 11. Thanks so much.


> On Jan 6, 2020, at 8:11 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> The New Albany YMCA is  33 State St, New Albany, my office is 1523 State 
> Street.  To save both of us having to find parking just come on out State 
> Street.  The office is on the left, in the front is a large State Farm sign 
> with Theresa Lamb’s name.  She has been good enough to allow me to park 
> myself until retirement.  The road beside the office leads to parking behind 
> the building.  
> 
> Stop by whenever it’s good for you.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 10:14 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry for the mis communication. my appointment is in Louisville at 11:20. I 
>> mentioned the Y so you would know I’m somewhat familiar with New Albany. I 
>> would have to meet you by 10:50 or after 1 at your office, at the Y, or 
>> somewhere else in New Albany.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 7:40 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds good, I’ve never been in the New Albany YMCA, where is best to meet 
>>> you?  I’ll be there by 11:10.  Just let me know if I should meet you in 
>>> front of the parking garage or somewhere inside.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 7:04 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I’m a member of the New Albany YMCA. I have an 11:20 appointment  and 
>>>> could meet you before or after. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:51 PM, John Robinson  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds good Harry, since you take the Clark you might know Clarksville 
>>>>> better, or Jeff than New Albany.  I could try and meet you at Starbucks 
>>>>> in Clarksville, real close to Sam’s, and Best Buy on Veteran’s Parkway…or 
>>>>> anywhere else you would like.
>>>>> 
>>>>> My office is on State Street in New Albany much closer to the Sherman 
>>>>> Minton Bridge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:53 PM, John Robinson  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Harry, it’s yours. It was never used, I had high hopes but as often in 
>>>>>>> life there are bumps.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No use you having to pay the bridge fee, you can send me your address 
>>>>>>> to my email address if you would like and I’ll gladly ship.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> I live in old Louisville and take the Clark Bridge to Indiana several 
>>>>>> time a week. In fact I was there last night. So unless you are really 
>>>>>> far away there is no reason to mail the mic and I don’t mind coming to 
>>>>>> get it. Let me know.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> profilecoven...@me.com
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is this still available. I would like it. Email me off list and I will 
>>>>>>>> make arrangements to get it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Harry Jacobson-Beyer
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:03 PM, John Robinson  
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I wanted to check to see if anyone could use this Mic.  It’s more for 
>>>>>>>>> the professional, takes external power and a Preamp but for the right 
>>>>>>>>> person it’s a great piece of equipment.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>

Re: [MacGroup] AKG Condenser Mic

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Sorry for the mis communication. my appointment is in Louisville at 11:20. I 
mentioned the Y so you would know I’m somewhat familiar with New Albany. I 
would have to meet you by 10:50 or after 1 at your office, at the Y, or 
somewhere else in New Albany.


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 7:40 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good, I’ve never been in the New Albany YMCA, where is best to meet 
> you?  I’ll be there by 11:10.  Just let me know if I should meet you in front 
> of the parking garage or somewhere inside.
> 
> John
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 7:04 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m a member of the New Albany YMCA. I have an 11:20 appointment  and could 
>> meet you before or after. 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:51 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds good Harry, since you take the Clark you might know Clarksville 
>>> better, or Jeff than New Albany.  I could try and meet you at Starbucks in 
>>> Clarksville, real close to Sam’s, and Best Buy on Veteran’s Parkway…or 
>>> anywhere else you would like.
>>> 
>>> My office is on State Street in New Albany much closer to the Sherman 
>>> Minton Bridge.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:53 PM, John Robinson  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Harry, it’s yours. It was never used, I had high hopes but as often in 
>>>>> life there are bumps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> No use you having to pay the bridge fee, you can send me your address to 
>>>>> my email address if you would like and I’ll gladly ship.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> John,
>>>> I live in old Louisville and take the Clark Bridge to Indiana several time 
>>>> a week. In fact I was there last night. So unless you are really far away 
>>>> there is no reason to mail the mic and I don’t mind coming to get it. Let 
>>>> me know.
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
>>>>> 
>>>>> profilecoven...@me.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this still available. I would like it. Email me off list and I will 
>>>>>> make arrangements to get it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Harry Jacobson-Beyer
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:03 PM, John Robinson  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I wanted to check to see if anyone could use this Mic.  It’s more for 
>>>>>>> the professional, takes external power and a Preamp but for the right 
>>>>>>> person it’s a great piece of equipment.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you can use send me your address and I’ll ship.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] AKG Condenser Mic

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I’m a member of the New Albany YMCA. I have an 11:20 appointment  and could 
meet you before or after. 


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:51 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Sounds good Harry, since you take the Clark you might know Clarksville 
> better, or Jeff than New Albany.  I could try and meet you at Starbucks in 
> Clarksville, real close to Sam’s, and Best Buy on Veteran’s Parkway…or 
> anywhere else you would like.
> 
> My office is on State Street in New Albany much closer to the Sherman Minton 
> Bridge.
> 
> John
> 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:53 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry, it’s yours. It was never used, I had high hopes but as often in life 
>>> there are bumps.
>>> 
>>> No use you having to pay the bridge fee, you can send me your address to my 
>>> email address if you would like and I’ll gladly ship.
>>> 
>>> John,
>> 
>> 
>> John,
>> I live in old Louisville and take the Clark Bridge to Indiana several time a 
>> week. In fact I was there last night. So unless you are really far away 
>> there is no reason to mail the mic and I don’t mind coming to get it. Let me 
>> know.
>> 
>> Harry
>>> 
>>> profilecoven...@me.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> Is this still available. I would like it. Email me off list and I will 
>>>> make arrangements to get it.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Harry Jacobson-Beyer
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:03 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I wanted to check to see if anyone could use this Mic.  It’s more for the 
>>>>> professional, takes external power and a Preamp but for the right person 
>>>>> it’s a great piece of equipment.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you can use send me your address and I’ll ship.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] AKG Condenser Mic

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:53 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry, it’s yours. It was never used, I had high hopes but as often in life 
> there are bumps.
> 
> No use you having to pay the bridge fee, you can send me your address to my 
> email address if you would like and I’ll gladly ship.
> 
> John,


John,
I live in old Louisville and take the Clark Bridge to Indiana several time a 
week. In fact I was there last night. So unless you are really far away there 
is no reason to mail the mic and I don’t mind coming to get it. Let me know.

Harry
> 
> profilecoven...@me.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:37 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> 
>> Is this still available. I would like it. Email me off list and I will make 
>> arrangements to get it.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Harry Jacobson-Beyer
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:03 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wanted to check to see if anyone could use this Mic.  It’s more for the 
>>> professional, takes external power and a Preamp but for the right person 
>>> it’s a great piece of equipment.  
>>> 
>>> If you can use send me your address and I’ll ship.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] AKG Condenser Mic

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

Is this still available. I would like it. Email me off list and I will make 
arrangements to get it.

Thanks.

Harry Jacobson-Beyer


> On Jan 5, 2020, at 4:03 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wanted to check to see if anyone could use this Mic.  It’s more for the 
> professional, takes external power and a Preamp but for the right person it’s 
> a great piece of equipment.  
> 
> If you can use send me your address and I’ll ship.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Original Mac team

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Ed. 

I’ve been an apple user since the days of the ll/e. I even set up a ll/e lab in 
a school where I worked in the early ‘80s.

I have always had Macs. I did get a Compaq computer as a second computer back 
in the day because I wanted to learn how to network them. It was never a 
primary computer for me but my wife used it for her personal work till she 
retired (she was a mainframe computer programmer who worked from home and used 
a pc to connect to the mainframe. She thought it would be too confusing to 
switch from the work pc to the personal computer if it was a Mac. When she 
retired I got her a MacBook pro which she has been using ever since). I took 
the hard drive out of the compaq and trashed the computer.

Life is good.



> On Dec 2, 2019, at 11:46 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> I love your ending, you’ve been watching too many political ads.  
> 
> Try this one on, which I did:   Delete C: (alt delete alt).  Now I got this 
> wrong, been too many years,  but what I did was completely wipe out the 
> entire hard drive.  
> 
> There was a guy in the PC user group that said he would come over & help me 
> restore the files if I would get him booze & some women.  Somehow I got him 
> to show up without either.  
> 
> He went by the nickname of Freddie The Frog.  A real wacky smart guy.  Then a 
> guy from Provo, UT ask if I had ever looked at their investment software on a 
> Mac?   What’s a Mac.  I drove to a guys house way up in IL in a raging 
> snowstorm & saw the most gorgeous program I’ve ever seen.  That was 1984, & 
> have been hooked ever since. 
> 
> John 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, what he REALLY meant, John, was 20-40 hours A WEEK. Every time you 
>> sat down to a DOS machine you had to translate the real world into this 
>> abstract, arcane syntax that made no sense.
>> 
>> My name is Jonathan Fletcher and I’ve been a Mac Bigot since 1985.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 2, 2019, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Very good Ed thanks, however the contention that DOS could be learned in 20 
>>> to 40 hours might be a stretch!  
>>> 
>>> John 
>> 
>> --
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>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] DropBox

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

Dropbox stores the files both on your computer and in the cloud. So it’s pretty 
much instantaneous. I keep all my data in dropbox and can access it from either 
computer or my phone or my iPad.

I store very little data on my computer outside of dropbox.

My macBook Air has a relatively small hard drive so I have attached an external 
4t hard drive which I partitioned. One partition is for time machine and one 
for Dropbox. So dropbox saves my data on its partition and not on my computer’s 
small capacity ssd drive.

Hope this helps.

Harry

> On Nov 27, 2019, at 3:26 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I only use DropBox for an additional backup of daily data..
> 
> Of late the Web based version would not allow me to log in, it didn’t reject 
> my info. it just would not open to my files.
> 
> There was also a note to begin using their Application rather than the URL to 
> access my files.
> 
> I downloaded and began using, it’s pretty slick, so slick I wanted to ask how 
> does it work.
> 
> I change out two files a day, one is small, the other grows with time, 
> currently about 140 meg.
> 
> When downloading to the URL, as when downloading to iCloud, the time to copy 
> the larger file was a couple minutes.
> 
> Now with the App, I delete the older file and I can no longer drag the new 
> file into Dropbox holding down the Option Key, I have to first duplicate the 
> file and then drag the carbon…that’s not a problem.
> 
> My question is the speed with which these files appear to be copied.  No bar 
> to see the progression, once I drag the file into Dropbox it appears, 
> instantaneous…. Done…over..before I hardly release the keypad.
> 
> What are they doing, are they creating and storing an image on their servers? 
>  It just can’t be that the larger file especially is instantly on the DropBox 
> servers. 
> 
> John
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] iPhone Security & Safety

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

You need iOS 12 or later I think.

Settings—>Cellular—>SIM PIN

> On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:40 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> There is no sim pin in my iPhone settings. 
> 
> Tom
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 11:24 AM, William Micou  wrote:
>> 
>> Found this...
>> 
>> https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/02/21/how-to-sim-pin-iphone/
>> 
>> Sent from my micro sub meson electronic component
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was going to ask the same question… have no idea
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 6:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting article. One of the recommendations  was to put a PIN in you 
>>>> SIM card. How is that done?
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Richard D. Meadows  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I came across this article and thought it might be of interest to the 
>>>>> group/
>>>>> 
>>>>> How To Secure Your iPhone: 12 Experts Reveal 26 Essential Security Tips
>>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/11/01/how-to-secure-your-iphone-12-experts-reveal-26-essential-security-tips/#1204b1cb3b10
>>>>> 
>>>>> Some things I had not thought of doing.  Hope it helps 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Richard
>>>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] SimplyMac

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks for the laugh!
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
> 
> These folks are GREAT.  Apple store told me they could not put a battery in 
> my iPad but Tech Restore did for 100 bucks… and in my wife’s iPhone SE (don’t 
> ask, please) for $60 after Apple said they couldn’t.  However even tho they 
> took heroic measures to save her iPad mini 3 gen, they were unable to 
> resurrect it. They did somehow get the data off of it but the physical iPad 
> was not salvageable. I am now trying to convince her to get a gen 5 but she 
> is searching for a refurbed gen 3….  I know I know.. but this woman can 
> squeeze a buffalo nickel and make it fart.  
> 
> Again, highly recommend Tech Restore
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:57 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My wife runs a store a few blocks away from the burnt-out SimplyMac and she 
>> has had several people come in and ask where it went. Until I read your 
>> comment, Richard, I was under the impression that it would not be reopened.
>> 
>> Thanks for the heads up, Richard!
>> 
>> Still not sure why I didn’t get an email about it!
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> BTW, the old manager of MacAuthority, Jeff Jewell, owns TechRestore. Their 
>> store is on Taylorsville Road in Hikes Point, in the strip mall behind 
>> Golden Corral. Go by and say hi!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2019, at 12:00 PM, "Richard D. Meadows"  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, yeah, might have been a good idea to include an address….
>>> 
>>> 3702 Lexington Rd, Louisville, KY 40207
>>> (502) 259-5490
>>> 
>>> they are open till 7 pm today.
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] iPhone Security & Safety

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

After I asked the question I DuckDuckGoed the question and found this:

https://www.imore.com/how-protect-your-sim-card-pin




> How to set up your SIM PIN
>   • Go to Settings on your iPhone or iPad.
>   • Tap on Cellular.
>   • Locate SIM PIN and tap it.
>   • Toggle the SIM PIN to ON. 
>   • Input your current SIM PIN if it was enabled before.


Before you try it read on:

My SIM PIN switch was off. When I turned it on I had to enter my code (I 
thought it wanted the code to unlock the screen on my phone) Well I tried that 
three times ( I thought I was typing too quickly and misentering the code) and 
poof I lost cell service and was told to contact my provider to get my PUK 
code. 

Apparently the SIM PIN has a code which you have to know before you can turn on 
the switch. 

I went to AT on line and started a chat session with Nadia. Nadia sent a 
verification code to my wife’s phone (she could have sent it to my email on 
file but i’m not sure what email they have on file). I typed that verification 
code into the chat window and Nadia sent me an 8 digit code. I had to turn off 
my cell phone and then turn it back on and at that point I was asked for my SIM 
PIN (i.e., PUK code). I entered the 8 digit number Nadia gave me and then was 
told to enter a new code of my choice, which I did and cell service was 
restored. 

Apparently you SIM CARD comes with a code you have to know before you turn the 
switch on and then you have to enter your own code to keep the switch on.

Also, if you turn the SIM PIN switch on, whenever you shut down your phone and 
restart it you will have to enter the SIM PIN code to get cell service.







> On Nov 17, 2019, at 10:09 PM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
> 
> I was going to ask the same question… have no idea
> Richard
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 6:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Interesting article. One of the recommendations  was to put a PIN in you SIM 
>> card. How is that done?
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I came across this article and thought it might be of interest to the group/
>>> 
>>> How To Secure Your iPhone: 12 Experts Reveal 26 Essential Security Tips
>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/11/01/how-to-secure-your-iphone-12-experts-reveal-26-essential-security-tips/#1204b1cb3b10
>>> 
>>> Some things I had not thought of doing.  Hope it helps 
>>> 
>>> Richard
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Re: [MacGroup] iPhone Security & Safety

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Interesting article. One of the recommendations  was to put a PIN in you SIM 
card. How is that done?

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 4:14 PM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
> 
> I came across this article and thought it might be of interest to the group/
> 
> How To Secure Your iPhone: 12 Experts Reveal 26 Essential Security Tips
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/11/01/how-to-secure-your-iphone-12-experts-reveal-26-essential-security-tips/#1204b1cb3b10
> 
> Some things I had not thought of doing.  Hope it helps 
> 
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[MacGroup] photo cd

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I found a foto CD from 1997.

There are thumb nail photos on the cd and there is a folder labeled “High” with 
individual photos labeled P1.Z, P2.Z, etc. When I click on any one of them the 
description says “unix compressed archive - 1.3 mb.

When I double click on the unix compressed file it creates a file called 
P1Z.cpgz with the description is CPGZ archive. When I double click that it 
creates a file called unix compressed archive. 


Also on the cd is a folder labeled MacWks and inside that folder are three 
folders labeled 

PhotoWorks 1.0.1 (68K)
PhotoWorks 1.0.1 (Fat)
PhotoWorks 1.0.1 (PPC)

When I double click any one of those I get this message:

You can’t open the application “PW101(68K)” because the Classic 
environment is no longer supported.

Any idea how I might open these photos in a form other than thumbnail size 
(which I can open and view)

Thanks.

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Re: [MacGroup] Spectrum Has To Go

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Yes. It is called cTiVo and it resides on my Mac and I can down load shows and 
then burn them to dvd with Toast.
I believe it was free. BUT you TiVo must be on your network - either hard wired 
or via WiFi.

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 8:48 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ed, I hoped you would answer as I know how much you like TiVo.  
> 
> Is there a way to move your recordings off the TiVo to a Mac?  In 2013 our 
> grandson’s team one the State Basketball Championship. The broadcast had been 
> recorded on the Time Warner box & it later died, we lost the game.  
> 
> Every so often there are programs that we want to preserve forever, which I 
> could do with a recording on the Mac, but am concerned that any other method 
> will limit me to the reliability of a box I can’t copy from or back up to an 
> external drive.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Ed Wiser  wrote:
>> 
>> I would go with a OTA TiVo. 
>> The problem with doing recordings on a Mac you need a tv schedule.  An that 
>> is what you pay TiVo for. Their box is always getting g an updated tv 
>> schedule. I have used them for 25 years and they are solid boxes. They use 
>> Linux and have a special software that constantly defrag’s the hard drive 
>> space that you use to record the shows. You will have to do this yourself on 
>> the Mac mini. 
>> The TiVo also will skip most network tv commercials.  
>> 
>> You could also get YouTube Tv an “record” shows. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:46 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Folks,
>>> 
>>> I seem to have a fobia on how to accomplish what I need to do…so I’m 
>>> seeking details on the logistics of making this work.
>>> 
>>> In 2017 I was paying Insight or Time Warner (whichever it was) $$179.04 a 
>>> month for TV and Internet.  
>>> 
>>> It went to $180.66.
>>> 
>>> Then $187.23
>>> 
>>> Again $194.55
>>> 
>>> Again $196.80
>>> 
>>> And the new Bill $207.81
>>> 
>>> I called and am told it’s just an increase to cover the higher cost…and the 
>>> gal said that she had cut the cable TV service 3 years ago.
>>> 
>>> I’m now serious, this is nuts.
>>> 
>>> Here is my problem  
>>> 
>>> One Coax feed into Spectrum’s modem, from there to the Distribution box you 
>>> see in the photo.
>>> 
>>> The house has Coax, phone and Ethernet wired throughout so I connect the 
>>> coax from the modem to an input port in the box, then I connect on the 
>>> outgoing side to the areas of the home that has the TV’s.
>>> 
>>> So, if I go with an Antenna (External Antenna on a pole 5 feet off the 
>>> ground) for many channels will there be enough strength, or power from the 
>>> cable coming in from the Antenna to get the signal to the various TV’s?  
>>> 
>>> I’ve understood there are signal boosters, they might be needed?
>>> 
>>> Finally, if I would get all that going how am I going to record shows?  Do 
>>> I have to purchase a Tivo box?  Is there no way to record to a Mac Mini?  
>>> It sure would be a lot easier to have the recording on an Apple devise that 
>>> can then be backed up.  We have had three Spectrum boxes go bad and all the 
>>> recordings lost, it would be the same with a TiVo box wouldn’t it, or can 
>>> the recordings be moved to a Mac?
>>> 
>>> Lots of questions, as I’m clueless.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Many thanks.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Spectrum Has To Go

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I agree. I’ve been using TiVo over the air for about 20 years. I love it. I 
have never had cable and do not plan to get cable in the future. I have an 
antenna on my roof but there are some pretty good digital indoor antennas out 
there - or so I’ve been told.

Good Luck.
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:27 AM, Ed Wiser  wrote:
> 
> I would go with a OTA TiVo. 
> The problem with doing recordings on a Mac you need a tv schedule.  An that 
> is what you pay TiVo for. Their box is always getting g an updated tv 
> schedule. I have used them for 25 years and they are solid boxes. They use 
> Linux and have a special software that constantly defrag’s the hard drive 
> space that you use to record the shows. You will have to do this yourself on 
> the Mac mini. 
> The TiVo also will skip most network tv commercials.  
> 
> You could also get YouTube Tv an “record” shows. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 9:46 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> I seem to have a fobia on how to accomplish what I need to do…so I’m seeking 
>> details on the logistics of making this work.
>> 
>> In 2017 I was paying Insight or Time Warner (whichever it was) $$179.04 a 
>> month for TV and Internet.  
>> 
>> It went to $180.66.
>> 
>> Then $187.23
>> 
>> Again $194.55
>> 
>> Again $196.80
>> 
>> And the new Bill $207.81
>> 
>> I called and am told it’s just an increase to cover the higher cost…and the 
>> gal said that she had cut the cable TV service 3 years ago.
>> 
>> I’m now serious, this is nuts.
>> 
>> Here is my problem  
>> 
>> One Coax feed into Spectrum’s modem, from there to the Distribution box you 
>> see in the photo.
>> 
>> The house has Coax, phone and Ethernet wired throughout so I connect the 
>> coax from the modem to an input port in the box, then I connect on the 
>> outgoing side to the areas of the home that has the TV’s.
>> 
>> So, if I go with an Antenna (External Antenna on a pole 5 feet off the 
>> ground) for many channels will there be enough strength, or power from the 
>> cable coming in from the Antenna to get the signal to the various TV’s?  
>> 
>> I’ve understood there are signal boosters, they might be needed?
>> 
>> Finally, if I would get all that going how am I going to record shows?  Do I 
>> have to purchase a Tivo box?  Is there no way to record to a Mac Mini?  It 
>> sure would be a lot easier to have the recording on an Apple devise that can 
>> then be backed up.  We have had three Spectrum boxes go bad and all the 
>> recordings lost, it would be the same with a TiVo box wouldn’t it, or can 
>> the recordings be moved to a Mac?
>> 
>> Lots of questions, as I’m clueless.
>> 
>> 
>> Many thanks.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
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[MacGroup] mail not delivered

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

This evening I sent a message to 100 + high school classmates which I do 
periodically.

I received a Mail Delivery System email indicating my email could not be sent 
to five of my recipients because

Message
   blocked due to spam content in the message. (in reply to end of DATA
   command)

I tried resending but to no avail.

Then just now I sent a message to my cousin and received the same notice from 
Mail delivery System.

I sent it twice and received the same result.

THEN

I went to my iPhone and copied the email I wrote from the trash and pasted it 
in a new email ON THE iPHONE and sent it successfully.

Any idea what’s happening?

Thanks.

Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] Questionable email

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I Think it’s spam. - Look at who it’s from.
> On Oct 20, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Anne Cartwright  wrote:
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> I have attached a pdf of an email received this morning.  Any thought on it?
> 
> Anne Cartwright
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] New Apple Store - In Person

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Jonathan.
> On Sep 14, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  
> wrote:
> 
> I stopped by the new store...
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__jfletch.posthaven.com_new-2Dlouisville-2Dapple-2Dstore=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=1U_cIx-ScF5oUdVDH760iPUemQgcPTiUFQW5c5AIm80=8KqjrltHwqdjIsQc_38Jm9DlylV6y2g6vXL9LcAoNdU=
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> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> --
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> Workplace Innovation Facilitator
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Re: [MacGroup] Simply Mac

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I second this John & ED.
Here is their # (502) 398-6456
and their address
4036 Taylorsville Rd.
Louisville KY 40220
> On Aug 22, 2019, at 11:40 AM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> What about TechRestore on Taylorsville Rd. I’ve used them, did a good job & 
> I’ve heard others like their work as well. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 10:47 AM, Richard D. Meadows  wrote:
>> 
>> I contacted them a couple weeks after the fire and got an answer back about 
>> a month later.  They are working on where/what they are gong to do, but no 
>> decision had been made.  
>> 
>> So to answer your question directly.. nope not open. 
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Ed Wiser  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Anyone know if Simply Mac is still open after the fire? Called today but 
>>> get no one answering. So left a message. Need to get my father in laws iMac 
>>> fixed. Before he drives me crazy. 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] How To change Administrative Name

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

I think you just create a new user with administrative power, then delete the 
first one.

Others should weigh in on this to be sure or maybe call apple.

Harry

> On Jul 2, 2019, at 9:14 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> The gal that does my and my wife’s hair had her husband leave her, of course 
> she is a mess, has one small daughter who will be starting school this month.
> 
> She had no computer and is required to interact with the school and teacher 
> for lessons, assignments, grades, Parent Teacher meeting, etc. etc…..so I had 
> an old MacBook Pro that I’ve set up for her, the latest OS that it will take 
> is El Cap….
> 
> When I set her name up as Administrator I left the last letter off her name, 
> an “s”.  
> 
> So now when she sees her name it’s the same as her brother-in-law who died 
> about 30 days ago of cancer….she has had a boat load of sadness and misery.
> 
> How can I easily (operative word, easy) change the Administrator’s name?  
> I’ve never done this before and I don’t want to mess anything up.
> 
> Thanks for any suggestions.
> 
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[MacGroup] photos and pdfs on my iMac

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Recently when people send me pdfs and photos I can open them on my phone no 
problem but on my iMac, with pdfs I get this message:

The file x.pdf could not be opened.
It may be damaged or use a file format that 
Preview doesn’t recognize.

When I get two or more photos in an email the first opens just fine but the 
second only half of it shows up.

I have a Late 2012 iMac running OS X El Capitan version 10.11.6 The files open 
fine on my slightly newer macbook air running Mojave.

Any thoughts on why this might be happening?

Thanks.

Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] Switching Providers

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I have a digital antenna on my roof and I’ve heard that you can get inexpensive 
very good indoor digital antennas.

How many different cable channels do you use. It might be cheaper to cut the 
cable and pay for two or three streaming channels. i get all the local channels 
through my antenna and you can get HBO, for instance for $15 a month the last 
time I priced it. I would imagine you can get sports channels, etc. too.

check out 


Harry

> On Jun 11, 2019, at 3:49 PM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This is only tangentially computer-related, because it has to do with 
> internet services. [1]
> 
> My 'special offer' with AT ended, so my cable+tv bill went up ~$60/month to 
> ~$190/month (!). This could be lowered to $172/month by reducing the number 
> of worthless shopping channels.
> 
> I priced out 'new customer' offers from Spectrum, and found that I could get 
> roughly equivalent service for roughly $20/month less including 'Spectrum 
> Ultra' which advertises up to 400Mbps downloads [2]. The one problem is 
> Spectrum says nothing about their upload speeds, and I need to know such 
> things for work.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea what upload speed is? Online I found ~20Mbps. Is 
> this right? My AT seems to be symmetric up and down at 60Mbps. I couldn't 
> care less about the download speed, but the quick upload speed is nice.
> 
> Also: does anyone have modern negotiation techniques for trying to lower the 
> price? In the past (or rather: up to 2017), just asking was good enough to 
> lower the bill. Last year and this year telling the person the price from the 
> competition did no good.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bill
> 
> [1] Or rather: new requirement for life because of companies which require 
> online bill paying.
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Re: [MacGroup] purported call from Apple Support

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Dan. will do.


> On Jun 4, 2019, at 6:17 PM, Dan Crutcher  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> I have heard of spam calls that try to get you to make a call that generates 
> a charge, like a 1-900 call. I’m not sure how that benefits the scammer, but 
> it may be what they were trying to do. Check your next phone bill to see if 
> you have any such charges.
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn’t give them any information. Can they do or get anything from my 
>> phone just from my being on the line with them?
>> 
>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:50 PM, Chris Denny  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Apple never calls you, it’s a phishing attempt.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:46 PM, "eugene.wi...@conagra.com" 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You answered.:) I have only had apple call me one time in all the years I 
>>>> have had their products. An it was during Beta testing.:)
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>>>> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Harry 
>>>> Jacobson-Beyer
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:42 PM
>>>> To: MacUserGroup Listserve 
>>>> Cc: Larson Lee 
>>>> Subject: [MacGroup] purported call from Apple Support
>>>> 
>>>> Caution - External Email Message  
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I just received a call on my iPhone from Apple Support, at least the 
>>>> caller id said Apple Support
>>>> 
>>>> I foolishly answered the phone and heard a recorded message that said 
>>>> something like this: "Your account has been compromised do not use any of 
>>>> your apple devices till you speak with support. Press 1 to speak with 
>>>> support.”
>>>> 
>>>> I did and got a person who asked what I wanted. I said you called me. 
>>>> After a few more questions he asked what the message said and I told him. 
>>>> He put me on hold and then the call was disconnected.
>>>> 
>>>> How  badly have I screwed up?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
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[MacGroup] purported call from Apple Support

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I just received a call on my iPhone from Apple Support, at least the caller id 
said Apple Support

I foolishly answered the phone and heard a recorded message that said something 
like this: "Your account has been compromised do not use any of your apple 
devices till you speak with support. Press 1 to speak with support.”

I did and got a person who asked what I wanted. I said you called me. After a 
few more questions he asked what the message said and I told him. He put me on 
hold and then the call was disconnected.

How  badly have I screwed up?

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Re: [MacGroup] Ahh, iCloud

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

yep my emails to the group or from the group often get lost in the ether.

As Lee says it happens every couple of months.

Aargh!
> On May 31, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On May 31, 2019, at 11:57 AM, Bill Rising  wrote:
> 
>> Ever since I told Beth that I used iCloud for most all of my email, and that 
>> it worked pretty well, I stopped getting any email from the usergroup.
> 
> I often get reports of weird things happening with mail to this group, and 
> I’m sure this group is not unique in that regard. When I can, I check the 
> problem emails pretty closely and I can rarely find anything wrong with them. 
> (Ask Harry about this! His email to this group seems to go crazy every couple 
> of months for no reason we can discover.)
> 
>> Wouldn't you know, Apple's mail servers had suddenly decided that anything 
>> coming from the group was spam, so I just found a ton of usergroup emails 
>> today when looking to see if a different missing email had ended up in the 
>> Junk folder.
>> So... the fact that iCloud's mail server sometimes has trouble deciding what 
>> is Junk and what is not Junk is something which has been around since I've 
>> used iCloud. The mysterious part is that emails from what should be safe 
>> sources (because I've gotten many and never marked them as Junk) suddenly 
>> and unpredictably become classified with Junk. I suppose this is common to 
>> mail servers, as it sometimes happens at work, too. It just seems wy 
>> more common with iCloud.
> 
> Modern junk mail filters for the major mail sites use mysterious algorithms 
> to grab unwanted mail. Until a few years ago the most advanced techniques 
> used Bayesian filtering. I’ve read that Google and likely Apple are using AI 
> algorithms and maybe even deep learning to catch spam. Probably even the 
> people who wrote the algorithms don’t really understand the spam/no-spam 
> triggers their machines have taught themselves.
> 
>> The worst part is that I have a sneaking suspicion that there are messages 
>> which never even make it to the Junk folder. I cannot possibly have evidence 
>> for this, just as I could not ever have evidence that there is an invisible, 
>> massless, floating ghost in my garage, but I still am suspicious. (Well, not 
>> of the ghost.)
>> 
>> Dunno if others have a strategy for making the Junk filtering less 
>> capricious
> 
> There are several suggestions for the problem of spam. Here are two I think 
> might work:
> 
> (1) The mail programs should flag email without a valid digital signature. 
> People are against this on privacy grounds. It would also require people to 
> get registered public keys. (I digitally sign all my email.)
> 
> (2) Put a charge of 0.01 cent on every email sent. This is small enough not 
> to discourage most email, but is enough to mean real money for the spammers 
> who send millions of emails. The criticism of this is that it’s technically 
> difficult. Think of it as an almost-free postage stamp. The money could be 
> used to enhance the Web’s infrastructure.
> 
> Ultimately, I think the spam problem could be the death of email. Spamming on 
> USENET essentially killed it about ten years ago.
> 
> L^2
> 
> PS/ I emptied my mail Junk folder late yesterday afternoon and it already 
> shows 407 emails flagged as junk across the five accounts I’m using. Errr… 
> three more as I was writing this sentence.
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] web host?

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I use A2 - recommended by Sandvox the web design software I use.


> On May 16, 2019, at 3:38 PM, Pen Helm  wrote:
> 
> Can you guys recommend a web hosting service?
> 
> I'm thinking something cheap, but not advertising-supported.  The traffic 
> will be light.
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Re: [MacGroup] Cutting the cable

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I have an antenna on the roof. The cable runs down the outside of the house and 
into the basement and plugs into an amplifier. From the basement I run a two 
cables to the outside of the house - one goes through the brick  into a 
television on the second floor and one goes through the wall to a television on 
the third floor. Finally one runs under the floor and then through the floor to 
a tv in the living room. All seem to work very well.



> On Apr 28, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Apr 28, 2019, at 1:09 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>> I ran across this gizmo (LiveWave) that plugs into an outlet and uses your 
>> houses electrical wiring as an antenna to pull in broadcast tv stations. It 
>> negates the need for a rooftop antenna.
>> 
>> I have not tried it but there was some discussion on the list about cutting 
>> the cable.
> 
> These things have been around forever. I can remember them from back in the 
> 90s promising better UHF reception. All they do is use the ground wires in 
> your house as an antenna. Since the ground wires were not installed to be an 
> antenna, they’ll probably not work as well as a real antenna. You could make 
> one of these yourself for a few cents.
> 
> We’ve got cheap antennas connected to the TVs and they get about 35 
> channels—counting all the sub channels. They’re all the indoor flat-panel 
> type and I see no difference between the one I got for $6.95 at Ollie’s 
> Bargain Mart and the “expensive” amplified versions I got from Amazon for 
> about $22. (The amplifier seems to make no difference.)
> 
> L^2
> 
> 
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[MacGroup] Cutting the cable

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I ran across this gizmo (LiveWave) that plugs into an outlet and uses your 
houses electrical wiring as an antenna to pull in broadcast tv stations. It 
negates the need for a rooftop antenna.

I have not tried it but there was some discussion on the list about cutting the 
cable.

If anyone tries it please review it here.

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.getlivewaveantenna.com=DwIFAg=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=yUkvd1Lyw1gtjXbdMe4nt7QaGmT_jmxEqHsxGzdCHXw=v_RdSWJn_9_V17vUPrCb_vPtZn2U664BYdLmKGEHwU8=

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Re: [MacGroup] google mail on my MacBook

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I had to log on to google and tell google it was okay to access MacOS and MacOS 
it was okay to access google! Go figure. Thanks Bill

> On Apr 16, 2019, at 8:37 AM, William Micou  wrote:
> 
> Are you still having that problem? If the google server was offline, wouldn’t 
> that cause no email? 
> 
> Sent from my micro sub meson electronic component
> 
>> On Apr 15, 2019, at 12:08 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> my google email on my MacBook isn’t working
> 
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[MacGroup] google mail on my MacBook

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Recently my google email on my MacBook isn’t working. I can get me google email 
on my phone or iPad and through Safari. 

When I check the network it says the google server is offline.

My two other accounts (iCloud, UofL) seem to be fine.

Any suggestions?

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Re: [MacGroup] wifi connections

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Brian. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 13, 2019, at 3:18 PM, Brian ONeal  wrote:
> 
> There should be a setting in the network control panel for it to auto connect 
> to the access point. 
> 
> Brian O’
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 13, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I am traveling with my MacBook. I am staying in a house with a highspeed 
>> wifi connection with Cox (in San Diego) - actually two wifi sources coming 
>> from the same modem:
>> 
>>   2.4 GHz (longer range, slower speed) - 031FB7
>>   5 GHZ (shorter range, faster speed) - 031FBD
>> 
>> I connect to the 5 GHZ wifi and every thing works fine till the computer 
>> goes to sleep. When I wake up the computer it doesn’t automatically connect 
>> and I have to choose the network I want.
>> 
>> 
>> When I visit my son in southern Alabama the wifi comes from Century Link and 
>> it’s the same scenario - two different connections through the same modem. 
>> When I connect to the wifi in Alabama and the computer goes to sleep I never 
>> have to reconnect when the computer wakes up.
>> 
>> Why would it do it in one place and not another?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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[MacGroup] wifi connections

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I am traveling with my MacBook. I am staying in a house with a highspeed wifi 
connection with Cox (in San Diego) - actually two wifi sources coming from the 
same modem:

2.4 GHz (longer range, slower speed) - 031FB7
5 GHZ (shorter range, faster speed) - 031FBD

I connect to the 5 GHZ wifi and every thing works fine till the computer goes 
to sleep. When I wake up the computer it doesn’t automatically connect and I 
have to choose the network I want.


When I visit my son in southern Alabama the wifi comes from Century Link and 
it’s the same scenario - two different connections through the same modem. When 
I connect to the wifi in Alabama and the computer goes to sleep I never have to 
reconnect when the computer wakes up.

Why would it do it in one place and not another?

Thanks.

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Re: [MacGroup] App wish list

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Newer TiVos have voice control remotes. Mine does not.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:41 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Does the TiVo have a remote that recognizes voices?
> 
> By the ads on TV, Spectrum remotes now responds to voice.
> 
> I’m guessing the Google and Amazon remotes do as well.  
> 
> It’s the way to go, ask what you want to watch, what music you want to 
> play…use the remote away from the machine…heck the other day there was a lady 
> in my office and I was demonstrating how to control the house with the Apple 
> Watch, I simply moved the watch up (you no longer have to say “Hey Siri” on 
> the watch), I said turn the kitchen lights to 50%…I didn’t mean it but Siri 
> came came back and said “Request Sent”….dang, hope my wife wasn’t in the room.
> 
> It’s the same with the TV remote, hold the button and speak what you want.  
> We always have Christmas music playing while eating and opening gifts, I 
> would press the microphone button and request whatever they wanted to hear 
> and it would play through the Bose system with the TV turned off…
> 
> All this works together very nicely…tonight I’m in the office working on 
> taxes, listening to the HomePods, controlling them with the Apple Watch….it’s 
> Buck Rogers for sure..
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t have Apple TV - I have TiVo!
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 8:51 PM, John Robinson >> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry,
>>> 
>>> Not quite what you want but Apple TV will tell you what you are 
>>> watching…just ask.
>>> 
>>> Outside Apple I’m guessing other vendors will do the same?
>>> 
>>> Also, since the Apple Remote doesn’t have a fast forward or rewind all you 
>>> need to do is tell it to move ahead 1 minute, 5 minutes, 20 minutes, the 
>>> same with rewind, just ask Siri to do the work for you AND you don’t have 
>>> to say “Hey Siri”, simply hold down the speaker button and speak what you 
>>> want.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer >>> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I turned on the television yesterday and there was a sci-fi movie playing 
>>>> with George Clooney. There was no info about the movie on the screen I 
>>>> could have gone to the guide screen on the TV and figured out the title 
>>>> but wouldn’t if be great if there was an app for movies like Shazam is for 
>>>> music. Open the app, press the button and after the app listens to the 
>>>> dialogue it would give you the name of the movie.
>>>> 
>>>> Life would certainly be grand.
>>>> 
>>>> Play it again Sam!
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] App wish list

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

It was not gravity.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 9:52 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> You: "Jonathan, what movie is playing right now?”
> 
> Me: “The movie playing right now is “Solaris," a 2002 remake of a 1972 film, 
> which was itself an adaptation of Stanislaw Lem’s 1961 novel of the same 
> name.”
> 
> (You can’t be referring to 2013’s “Gravity," because in that case you would 
> have mentioned Sandra Bullock in the same breath as George Clooney.)
> 
> ::-)
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> P.S. Good movie, BTW, although some might find it opaque.
> 
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 10:33 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I turned on the television yesterday and there was a sci-fi movie playing 
>> with George Clooney. There was no info about the movie on the screen I could 
>> have gone to the guide screen on the TV and figured out the title but 
>> wouldn’t if be great if there was an app for movies like Shazam is for 
>> music. Open the app, press the button and after the app listens to the 
>> dialogue it would give you the name of the movie.
>> 
>> Life would certainly be grand.
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> Workplace Innovation Facilitator
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Re: [MacGroup] App wish list

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I don’t have Apple TV - I have TiVo!

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 8:51 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Not quite what you want but Apple TV will tell you what you are watching…just 
> ask.
> 
> Outside Apple I’m guessing other vendors will do the same?
> 
> Also, since the Apple Remote doesn’t have a fast forward or rewind all you 
> need to do is tell it to move ahead 1 minute, 5 minutes, 20 minutes, the same 
> with rewind, just ask Siri to do the work for you AND you don’t have to say 
> “Hey Siri”, simply hold down the speaker button and speak what you want.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:17 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I turned on the television yesterday and there was a sci-fi movie playing 
>> with George Clooney. There was no info about the movie on the screen I could 
>> have gone to the guide screen on the TV and figured out the title but 
>> wouldn’t if be great if there was an app for movies like Shazam is for 
>> music. Open the app, press the button and after the app listens to the 
>> dialogue it would give you the name of the movie.
>> 
>> Life would certainly be grand.
>> 
>> Play it again Sam!
>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] electronic key machines

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I don’t know for sure but the machine at the hardware store didn’t take credit 
cards.

> On Mar 20, 2019, at 8:43 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Lowes has a machine that does the same thing….I needed a key for my 
> daughter’s home in Bowling Green…they sent me to Lowes.
> 
> I put the key in the machine and it did the rest, I just watched, there was 
> no one in attendance.
> 
> The only kicker for me was putting my credit card in this box, what were the 
> odds it was safe?  Maybe by now it’s got ApplePay as many vending machines 
> will accept Apple’s payment system.
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I had occasion to go to a hardware store to have a key made. The clerk took 
>> my key and put it in a slot in the machine. The machine’s display told her 
>> what key blank to use. After she located the blank she put the blank into a 
>> second slot on the machine and pressed start. In seconds my key was ready.
>> 
>> The machine doesn’t have an internal buffing wheel to buff away the metal 
>> shards produced by cutting the key but it does have an external wheel.
>> 
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[MacGroup] App wish list

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I turned on the television yesterday and there was a sci-fi movie playing with 
George Clooney. There was no info about the movie on the screen I could have 
gone to the guide screen on the TV and figured out the title but wouldn’t if be 
great if there was an app for movies like Shazam is for music. Open the app, 
press the button and after the app listens to the dialogue it would give you 
the name of the movie.

Life would certainly be grand.

Play it again Sam!

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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I had occasion to go to a hardware store to have a key made. The clerk took my 
key and put it in a slot in the machine. The machine’s display told her what 
key blank to use. After she located the blank she put the blank into a second 
slot on the machine and pressed start. In seconds my key was ready.

The machine doesn’t have an internal buffing wheel to buff away the metal 
shards produced by cutting the key but it does have an external wheel.

Ain’t life with technology great (well sometimes anyway)!
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[MacGroup] John's next car

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

The interior has a place for an ipad! John you need this!


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[MacGroup] HBO

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

If you have cable and HBO is all content free? Or is there content on HBO that 
you have to pay for?

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Re: [MacGroup] VPN Offer

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

At Lee’s suggestion I use PIA - Private Internet Access.

Harry
> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:56 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Harry, your last sentence…..Good Luck……is encouraging   Make me 
> think of getting in a barrel and going over Niagara Falls…..
> 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> John,
>> Don’t know what company this refers to.
>> 
>> There are places I go (Like the Louisville Free Public Library) where I 
>> cannot connect to the internet with VPN turned on.
>> 
>> There are also websites that will not allow me to connect with VPN turned on.
>> 
>> I imagine with your work it shouldn’t be a problem. 
>> 
>> When Sherry (my wonderful bride) worked from home she had a token (a counter 
>> that was synced with the mainframe at her work) and when she logged on to 
>> work from home she had to enter the 7 digit number showing on the token- it 
>> changed every minute. 
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:38 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I enjoy reading Lee and Harry’s discussions on VPN’s, it’s foreign to me so 
>>> I’ve hid my head in the sand….
>>> 
>>> Then today this offer, a $49.00 for a LIFETIME of IVACY…actually there was 
>>> a coupon that dropped it to $30.00 but I can no longer find it.
>>> 
>>> At that price it would be good to purchase the offer even if I didn’t have 
>>> time to install now.
>>> 
>>> Anyone know about this firm?   Does it matter much which company we decide 
>>> to go with?  
>>> 
>>> Just this week, at work, they finally finished installing fiber and I now 
>>> find each agent is on a VPN, something we’ve never had previously.   
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?  Any warnings?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks a bunch.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ivacy.com=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=PsolEDqGMxFhpzxUn7_nQifm2AepeFS8-04u_9X8TcM=JnsxdN50aIoe8rhuXl0_NB5qEzPClkc8HdyOQbJM9c4=
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] VPN Offer

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,
Don’t know what company this refers to.

There are places I go (Like the Louisville Free Public Library) where I cannot 
connect to the internet with VPN turned on.

There are also websites that will not allow me to connect with VPN turned on.

I imagine with your work it shouldn’t be a problem. 

When Sherry (my wonderful bride) worked from home she had a token (a counter 
that was synced with the mainframe at her work) and when she logged on to work 
from home she had to enter the 7 digit number showing on the token- it changed 
every minute. 

Good luck.

Harry


> On Mar 3, 2019, at 2:38 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I enjoy reading Lee and Harry’s discussions on VPN’s, it’s foreign to me so 
> I’ve hid my head in the sand….
> 
> Then today this offer, a $49.00 for a LIFETIME of IVACY…actually there was a 
> coupon that dropped it to $30.00 but I can no longer find it.
> 
> At that price it would be good to purchase the offer even if I didn’t have 
> time to install now.
> 
> Anyone know about this firm?   Does it matter much which company we decide to 
> go with?  
> 
> Just this week, at work, they finally finished installing fiber and I now 
> find each agent is on a VPN, something we’ve never had previously.   
> 
> Any thoughts?  Any warnings?
> 
> 
> Thanks a bunch.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ivacy.com=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=PsolEDqGMxFhpzxUn7_nQifm2AepeFS8-04u_9X8TcM=JnsxdN50aIoe8rhuXl0_NB5qEzPClkc8HdyOQbJM9c4=
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Re: [MacGroup] The Verge: Google Fiber is leaving Louisville in humiliating setback

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

We go to Gulf Shores three times a year. Drive 65 and have never noticed a drop 
in service.

I use AT
> On Feb 10, 2019, at 3:34 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> On our trip to Destin we go through Alabama, miles and miles with NO service, 
> Verizon or AT….I must rely on the Garmin Satellite…
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 10, 2019, at 1:02 PM, John Robinson  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> A supervisor showed up to help the Tech set the modem to Bridge mode, and 
>>> both of them said most likely there won’t be fiber due to 5g now being the 
>>> latest rage….so what is that going to cost if it’s sucking in cellular all 
>>> day?
>> 
>> I expect for most areas 5G is still several years away—if ever.
>> 
>> After all, there are still large areas with no LTE coverage. Have you driven 
>> across West Virginia lately? It seemed that every time I dipped down into a 
>> valley reception disappeared.
>> 
>> L^2
>> 
>> 
>> Lee Larson
>> leelar...@me.com
>> 
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>> wouldn't be a bit surprised. — Dorothy Parker
>> 
>> ‌
>> ‌‌
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Re: [MacGroup] The Verge: Google Fiber is leaving Louisville in humiliating setback

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Att in old Louisville. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2019, at 3:42 AM, "eugene.wi...@conagra.com" 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wish I could get any Fiber Nothing out here on Westport road. Where is 
> fiber in Louisville? We must have a very small install base.
>  
> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>  On Behalf Of John Robinson
> Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 10:05 PM
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> humiliating setback
>  
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> Most of you may already know. 
>  
> John
> Google Fiber is leaving Louisville in humiliating setback
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> 
> The gigabit internet service will shut down in Louisville on April 15th Read 
> the full story
> 
>  
> Shared from Apple News
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Re: [MacGroup] Mojave and Neo Office

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I have never used the database function in Open Office. Would you recommend I 
get the Apple version? or the professional version?
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 8:39 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Jan 22, 2019, at 8:06 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>> I am happy to pay for Neo Office. I use it a lot. What I don’t understand is 
>> why the Professional Edition allows me to edit NeoOffice, OpenOffice, and 
>> LibreOffice database files but the version in the Mac App store doesn’t. And 
>> what is the difference between the Professional Edition and the Mac App 
>> Store Edition?
> 
> Apple doesn’t let programs that use Java into the App Store. Some of the 
> database routines in NeoOffice use Java and they’ve been removed or replaced. 
> I think there are some other minor differences with the Open dialog box 
> because of the restrictive permissions Apple requires for the App Store.
> 
> I read a note about this when they first went into the App Store and none of 
> it seemed to be a big deal to anyone not talking to SQL database servers.
> 
> L^2
> 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Installing Mojave

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I don’t know. Hope so!

> On Jan 20, 2019, at 6:22 PM, Tom  wrote:
> 
> Can u go back from mojave? Slowed my 2018 27 iMac down and disk warrior will 
> not work with it 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2019, at 12:53 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Lee.
>>> On Jan 20, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There are at least two Apple-sanctioned ways to do this:
>>> 
>>> (1) Use recovery mode.
>>>   
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.imore.com_how-2Dinstall-2Dfresh-2Dcopy-2Dos-2Dx-2Dyour-2Dmac=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=jGMoJZB9nw_d3u-_529S5A7ch3qtoB5_h2dFSYClDmM=l1cxQNkCMK9t0ZBtLNhp_6CmhAuMpWJZbhPaNu2Qikc=>
>>> 
>>> (2) Create an installer image on something like a flash drive or another 
>>> hard drive.
>>>   
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__support.apple.com_en-2Dus_HT201372=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=jGMoJZB9nw_d3u-_529S5A7ch3qtoB5_h2dFSYClDmM=A6ZdHnIpMOepR1jYpH9dSkhGmdyKpMqiTabqBSAt3c8=>
>>> 
>>> If you’re going to nuke the original drive, you’ll have to use the second 
>>> method.
>>> 
>>> L^2
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> leelar...@me.com
>>> 
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>>> Gibson
>>> ‌Talk of the Nation (NPR), 1993‌
>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Installing Mojave

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Lee.
> On Jan 20, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Jan 20, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> There are at least two Apple-sanctioned ways to do this:
> 
> (1) Use recovery mode.
>   
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.imore.com_how-2Dinstall-2Dfresh-2Dcopy-2Dos-2Dx-2Dyour-2Dmac=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=jGMoJZB9nw_d3u-_529S5A7ch3qtoB5_h2dFSYClDmM=l1cxQNkCMK9t0ZBtLNhp_6CmhAuMpWJZbhPaNu2Qikc=>
> 
> (2) Create an installer image on something like a flash drive or another hard 
> drive.
>   
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> 
> If you’re going to nuke the original drive, you’ll have to use the second 
> method.
> 
> L^2
> 
> 
> 
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[MacGroup] Installing Mojave

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I know this is crazy BUT…I have been having issues with my mac. I have run tech 
tool and diskwarrior and the issues continue. I also had TechRestore check out 
the machine and the issues continue. I want to wipe the hard drive and install 
mojave. I have an external startup drive and I know how to reformat the drive 
on my Mac but once I do that, I’m not sure how to get Mojave once I wipe the 
drive.

BTW - currently I am running El Capitan - 10.11.6

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Re: [MacGroup] How Secure are our Text?

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John a little humor for you to help alleviate your frustration.

A first adopter was asked what he regretted. He replied I would go back in time 
to when my daughter was born and not name her Alexa!

> On Jan 11, 2019, at 2:07 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Right, so all the world needs to get with it!
> 
> My family hears so much from me, I think they have a Doll with my image they 
> stick pins in…but they don’t listen.   
> 
> They still use Google email, Yahoo email, and have Alexia devices in their 
> home…..no matter what I send, what articles I use to support my position…I 
> get quite frustrated while EVERYTHING, other than Alexia, is Apple…iCloud is 
> Free, encrypted iCloud to iCloud, up to 5 gig can be transferred…and what do 
> they do?  
> 
> I’ve thought about counseling, not for them, for myself.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2019, at 10:00 AM, John Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>>> Not your normal effort.  The writer takes a techie subject and dumbs it 
>>> down to where I can understand…take a few minutes to understand WHY it may 
>>> be a good idea to send text via iMessage.
>> 
>> Of course, the messages you send to an Android phone using iMessage are not 
>> encrypted. The strong encryption only works between Apple devices.
>> 
>> L^2
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Re: [MacGroup] A conundrum

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks.
> On Dec 31, 2018, at 2:03 PM, Jonathan Fletcher  wrote:
> 
> Some things to try:
> 
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> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__osxdaily.com_2018_03_15_share-2Dwifi-2Dpassword-2Diphone-2Dipad_=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=_6_YZD_fXX7G0KxVyynCy0wp8YBnAHiCeFtLtD62hNE=m6Qe8LbNGSZ_ASxaBM1RtpYR3LGCvQ8rghEqN7cPYtA=
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> Jonathan
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> 
> 
>> On Dec 31, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> From: Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] A conundrum
>> Date: December 31, 2018 at 1:49:15 PM EST
>> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and 
>> 
>> Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> I got a new phone before I went out of town, but it was logged into the home 
>> network. My wife’s phone was also logged in. We did both update the phone 
>> away from home while on another network so maybe that’s it. BUT, after I 
>> logged into the network why couldn’t my wife’s phone log in when I put my 
>> phone next to hers. Both phones said that is possible.
>> Happy New Year.
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks, I will keep that in mind too.

> On Dec 26, 2018, at 9:29 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
>> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
>> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
>> 
>> What do you think is going on?
> 
> We drove to Tampa last week and stopped for gas near Atlanta. I tried Apple 
> Pay at the pump. It didn’t do anything with my default (Discover) setting, 
> but worked when I switched to a different card.
> 
> This is the same as always happens at Subway, even though they take the 
> Discover card. 
> 
> Happy Boxing Day!
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> L^2 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

We are out of town, so won’t be going back to the station soon. I’ll keep your 
ideas in mind if I run into the situation again. Thanks.
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 9:49 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Could be it’s in preparation but not yet activated.   Could be the attendant 
> has to interact & hit the “credit” button inside.   Both are wild guesses.  
> When I’m checking out at many places I have to tell the clerk to hit the 
> “credit” button, especially at Starbucks & Walgreens.  At Meier the sale 
> won’t work even after I’ve used my ApplePay until the clerk pushes some 
> button for completion.  
> 
> I would go in and ask what they want.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 25, 2018, at 10:32 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
>> pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
>> ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.
>> 
>> What do you think is going on?
>> 
>> 
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[MacGroup] Apple Pay at a shell station

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I pulled into a shell station to get gas. The pump had an applepay logo. I 
pulled out my trusty iPhone, opened my wallet and put the phone next to the 
ApplePay gizmo - nothing happened. I couldn’t get it to work.

What do you think is going on?




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[MacGroup] Neo Office

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Is there a program in the window’s world that can read/edit documents made in 
neo office?

Why am I asking this you may ask?

I have created a drawing document in Neo Office that I may need to hand off to 
a person with a windows computer.

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Re: [MacGroup] iPad Pro as an external monitor on my MacBook Air

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Lee.
I was confusing lightning with Thunderbolt since the Thunderbolt port has what 
I think is a “lightning iconl”

Thunderbolt   or Thunderbolt 2  

According to Apple my MacBook Air has these ports:
Two USB 3 ports (up to 5 Gbps)
Thunderbolt port (up to 10 Gbps)
and
MagSafe 2 power port
SDXC card slot


> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:11 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
>> My MacBook Air does have lightning, not sure if it has USBc.
> 
> On Dec 12, 2018, at 8:23 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
>> My MacBook Air does have lightning, not sure if it has USBc.
> 
> It gets confusing in a hurry.
> 
> I don’t think Apple has ever made a Mac supporting Lightning—only iPhones and 
> iPads. The MacBook Airs have Thunderbolt, not Lightning ports. There is no 
> compatibility between Thunderbolt and Lightning.
> 
> Before this year, the Air had a USB-A port and a Thunderbolt port supporting 
> USB 2 and Thunderbolt 2, respectively. The 2018 Airs have two USB-C ports 
> both supporting USB 3 and Thunderbolt 3.
> 
> L^2
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Re: [MacGroup] iPad Pro as an external monitor on my MacBook Air

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Chris,

What cable do you use?

Air Display 3 is $9.99 but Air Display for the Mac is $19.99. Is that what you 
have?

Harry

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 10:17 PM, Chris Denny  wrote:
> 
> I use Air Display on my 2nd Gen 12.9 Pro. It connects by running a cable from 
> my Mac to the iPad, opening the Air Display 3 on the iPad and launching Air 
> Display Host software from the Mac. I don’t have a reason to run it over wifi 
> because I use it as I edit my photos with Lightroom, Affinity Photo, 
> Photoshop, and other software. If you plan on using it over WiFi make sure 
> coverage in your home is solid and fast. I wouldn’t recommend trying to use 
> it having one router in a two story house and not expecting any latency to 
> happen. The Host software is a free download and the app runs $9.99. 
> 
> In spite what you might see in the reviews, I’ll recommend it to anyone. It’s 
> been a solid product for me.
> 
> Chris
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
>> John,
>> 
>> I’m running El Capitan. Do you think Duet will work okay with El Capitan?
>> Also do you install duet on the iPad? the Mac? Both?
>> How do you connect the iPad to the Mac? Thunderbolt to USB? Thunderbolt to 
>> Thunderbolt? USB to USB?
>> 
>> I know I would need a dongle for the iPad 
>> 
>> I’m only going to connect my iPad to  my Macbook Air - no other machines..
>> 
>> I’ll check out Luna too.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 3:26 PM, John Robinson >> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry,
>>> 
>>> I’ve use the Duet on past OS’s, it worked fairly well but in corresponding 
>>> with them they continued to tell me it had flaws due to Apple not releasing 
>>> some particular code…possibly by now the software works flawlessly…
>>> 
>>> I also was very interested in the Luna display hardware solution….I gather 
>>> for a one on one this works very well, but in my case I wanted to have the 
>>> device in three MacMini’s, then switch between the three to one iPad…but 
>>> they don’t have a setup for this and ask me to wait.
>>> 
>>> I know there are other systems that allow one iPad to work with multiple 
>>> computers so I’m interested in what others may say.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.zdnet.com_article_duet-2Ddisplay-2Dturn-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dsecond-2Dmonitor-2Dfor-2Dmac-2Dwith-2Dzero-2Dlag-2Dreview_=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=zBy2bvgVo4leoLUyzm8ULMHEVdqAYNZ0B2UVdobvfqs=j8gBpJa09fYS30q4En7KfxxTlXf8-F7RVZ3v2kb9utM=
>>>  
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.zdnet.com_article_duet-2Ddisplay-2Dturn-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dsecond-2Dmonitor-2Dfor-2Dmac-2Dwith-2Dzero-2Dlag-2Dreview_=DwMFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=XS_xUDpemZNhF-IVQDVT-Je0uqRZ8ONJwLcZZ6I246g=veZGDzqusQY4oGxYpZrV269jTM6d2EA5fE-Kvkp5FUo=>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tidbits.com_2018_12_07_luna-2Ddisplay-2Dturns-2Dan-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dresponsive-2Dmac-2Dscreen_=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=zBy2bvgVo4leoLUyzm8ULMHEVdqAYNZ0B2UVdobvfqs=Qdp7YJNN5ZFcYe2e10PyYNE74EYRzFSXN2pIiz4kb5o=
>>>  
>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tidbits.com_2018_12_07_luna-2Ddisplay-2Dturns-2Dan-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dresponsive-2Dmac-2Dscreen_=DwMFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=XS_xUDpemZNhF-IVQDVT-Je0uqRZ8ONJwLcZZ6I246g=vk0Vg35Wp3GhaPLi1qJPRwl2SmabVOq0wNhlITbmVLE=>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 3:16 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer >>> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone use an iPad pro as an external monitor for a laptop? If so 
>>>> what do I need and how do I do it?
>>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] iPad Pro as an external monitor on my MacBook Air

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

My MacBook Air does have lightning, not sure if it has USBc.
> On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:36 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> You are right, you would go USB to Lighting.  You can’t go Lighting to 
> Lighting since your MacBook is not lighting.  
> 
> I’m guessing there is an app with Luna that communicates with the hardware.  
> I would also imagine there is an IOS app that communicates with the hardware 
> but since I’ve not purchased I’m not sure. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 11, 2018, at 10:12 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
>> is Luna also installed  on both. My iPad pro is about two years old and the 
>> MacBook Air is 5 years old last month.
>> 
>> Could I do lightning to lighting? I’m guessing my 5 year old MacBook Air 
>> doesn’t have USBc
>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:03 PM, John Robinson >> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Harry,
>>> 
>>> I was using it with El Cap, it had some issues but I’m guessing they have 
>>> been solved.  At that time I was on a laptop that had USB, so a cable from 
>>> USB to Lightening.   Newer would be from UBBc on the Mac to Lighting on the 
>>> iPad.  If the very latest iPad Pro it will be USBc on the Mac to USBc on 
>>> the iPad Pro 
>>> 
>>> Duet is installed on both.  
>>> 
>>> It was very cool, some latency but not bad & most of that was the pathetic 
>>> Mac I was using. 
>>> 
>>> The Luna really looked good due to speed, there was no software rigging to 
>>> make it work.  I hope they can solve the problem I have of using 3 Mini’s 
>>> headless & the iPad becoming the monitor for each & switch between.  In 
>>> talking to them for some reason they hadn’t thought of this configuration & 
>>> thought it was an idea they wanted to pursue.  
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer >> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> I’m running El Capitan. Do you think Duet will work okay with El Capitan?
>>>> Also do you install duet on the iPad? the Mac? Both?
>>>> How do you connect the iPad to the Mac? Thunderbolt to USB? Thunderbolt to 
>>>> Thunderbolt? USB to USB?
>>>> 
>>>> I know I would need a dongle for the iPad 
>>>> 
>>>> I’m only going to connect my iPad to  my Macbook Air - no other machines..
>>>> 
>>>> I’ll check out Luna too.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your help
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2018, at 3:26 PM, John Robinson >>>> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Harry,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve use the Duet on past OS’s, it worked fairly well but in 
>>>>> corresponding with them they continued to tell me it had flaws due to 
>>>>> Apple not releasing some particular code…possibly by now the software 
>>>>> works flawlessly…
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also was very interested in the Luna display hardware solution….I 
>>>>> gather for a one on one this works very well, but in my case I wanted to 
>>>>> have the device in three MacMini’s, then switch between the three to one 
>>>>> iPad…but they don’t have a setup for this and ask me to wait.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know there are other systems that allow one iPad to work with multiple 
>>>>> computers so I’m interested in what others may say.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.zdnet.com_article_duet-2Ddisplay-2Dturn-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dsecond-2Dmonitor-2Dfor-2Dmac-2Dwith-2Dzero-2Dlag-2Dreview_=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=BxIO51YlVsEno9dP8lx9eoGtgqmlMy9DMDaAjorhMOQ=uegHFlyeSofdfhs4BRSkxuuF5I6n6LtF0LANK-DKicw=
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.zdnet.com_article_duet-2Ddisplay-2Dturn-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dsecond-2Dmonitor-2Dfor-2Dmac-2Dwith-2Dzero-2Dlag-2Dreview_=DwMFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=XS_xUDpemZN

Re: [MacGroup] iPad Pro as an external monitor on my MacBook Air

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

I’m running El Capitan. Do you think Duet will work okay with El Capitan?
Also do you install duet on the iPad? the Mac? Both?
How do you connect the iPad to the Mac? Thunderbolt to USB? Thunderbolt to 
Thunderbolt? USB to USB?

I know I would need a dongle for the iPad 

I’m only going to connect my iPad to  my Macbook Air - no other machines..

I’ll check out Luna too.

Thanks for your help

Harry

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 3:26 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> I’ve use the Duet on past OS’s, it worked fairly well but in corresponding 
> with them they continued to tell me it had flaws due to Apple not releasing 
> some particular code…possibly by now the software works flawlessly…
> 
> I also was very interested in the Luna display hardware solution….I gather 
> for a one on one this works very well, but in my case I wanted to have the 
> device in three MacMini’s, then switch between the three to one iPad…but they 
> don’t have a setup for this and ask me to wait.
> 
> I know there are other systems that allow one iPad to work with multiple 
> computers so I’m interested in what others may say.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.zdnet.com_article_duet-2Ddisplay-2Dturn-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dsecond-2Dmonitor-2Dfor-2Dmac-2Dwith-2Dzero-2Dlag-2Dreview_=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=0_pyfEhnhwE0oGlMOUJm1xzMPB67IpTHu9uME2xvB0Y=yvEs2odjoNVDxQvpLSdgCcsCSfXY65f_HjRsvp8jgLk=
>  
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.zdnet.com_article_duet-2Ddisplay-2Dturn-2Dipad-2Dinto-2Da-2Dsecond-2Dmonitor-2Dfor-2Dmac-2Dwith-2Dzero-2Dlag-2Dreview_=DwMFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=XS_xUDpemZNhF-IVQDVT-Je0uqRZ8ONJwLcZZ6I246g=veZGDzqusQY4oGxYpZrV269jTM6d2EA5fE-Kvkp5FUo=>
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[MacGroup] iPad Pro as an external monitor on my MacBook Air

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Does anyone use an iPad pro as an external monitor for a laptop? If so what do 
I need and how do I do it?

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Re: [MacGroup] java

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

is there a way to tell where I got neo office from?

> On Dec 1, 2018, at 8:23 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Dec 1, 2018, at 12:44 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
>> I use Neo Office so I should upgrade, right? 
> 
> 
> It depends on from where you got your NeoOffice. If you got it from the 
> NeoOffice site, you might need Java. If you got it from the Mac App Store, 
> you don’t need Java because all the Java-dependent features have been 
> neutered. This is because Apple does not allow Java-dependent programs in the 
> App Store.
> 
> I think most (all?) the Java dependencies in Open(Libra)(Neo)Office are in 
> the database, but I could be wrong.
> 
> L^2
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[MacGroup] java

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I got a notice on my computer that a new version of Java was available. I know 
this question has come up before but I don’t remember the answer. Should I 
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Re: [MacGroup] Microsoft Tech Support Scams

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Bill,
You are way too much! I’m still chuckling after 5 minutes.

Harry
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 1:21 PM, William Micou  wrote:
> 
> Why answer? Well, it might be the IRS and they have a warrant for my arrest. 
> 
> "It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.”
> 
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Sandra Schreiber  > wrote:
> 
>> I have said the same thing..after about 5 minutes.It's not kept me 
>> off their mailing lists, however!Sandy Schreiber
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 12:06 PM, William Micou wrote:
>> 
>>> There’s a great podcast where they try to research one of these ‘support’ 
>>> centers. 
>>> Podcast is “Reply All”, and look for episodes #102 & #103 called ‘Long 
>>> Distance’. 
>>> I too have fun with those calls. I act really excited that they found a 
>>> problem and I’m so thankful that they want to help me.  Eventually I tell 
>>> them I have no Window system. 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> "It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.”
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:35 AM, John Robinson >> > wrote:
>>> 
 Funny, love to toy with them and glad the bad guys are being arrested…how 
 many folks go along with them and get suckered….
 
 John
 
 
 
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Lee Larson  > wrote:
> 
> Over the last few years I’ve been sometimes annoyed and sometimes amused 
> by the frequent calls from “Microsoft Technical Support” about “problems 
> with my Windows computer.”
> 
> The calls always begin with someone speaking in a heavy Indian accent 
> saying something like “Hello, this is Edward from Microsoft Technical 
> Support. We have detected problems with your computer.”
> 
> Just for fun, I usually ask “How do you know it’s my computer?”
> 
> Edward: “We have extensive security monitoring and have matched it with 
> the number under which you registered Windows.”
> 
> At this point, I go in one of several directions.
> 
> If I’m in a hurry, I say something like "But I have no Windows 
> computers.” Or I ask “Does your mother know you’re a criminal?” These are 
> usually answered by a quick click.
> 
> If I’m not in a hurry, I’ll play stupid to see how long I can keep 
> “Edward” on the line by having trouble with my computer.
> 
> A while back, I fired up VirtualBox on my Linux machine and opened a 
> Windows VM, just to see what they would do. I connected to the Web site 
> they suggested and watched lots of traffic as they “diagnosed” my 
> problems. There were lots of changes to the Windows registry. After a 
> short time, they came back and suggested things could be fixed for $150. 
> At that point, I used my mother-criminal line, hung up and deleted the 
> Windows VM from the Linux machine.
> 
> This has been going on for years and I’ve often wondered why Microsoft 
> put up with it. According to ZDNet, it looks like they finally hit the 
> breaking point.
> 
>> New Delhi police have arrested 63 suspects in the last two months 
>> working and operating 26 call centers that were engaging in tech support 
>> scams, posing as tech support staff at Microsoft, Google, Apple, and 
>> other major tech companies. The raids on Delhi-based call centers have 
>> taken place over the last two months, Microsoft said. Police first 
>> raided 10 call centers and arrested 24 people in October, and then 
>> raided 16 other call centers and made 39 more arrests this week. 
> 
>> Microsoft said its staff received over 7,000 victim reports associated 
>> with the 16 call centers raided this week, from over 15 countries. Users 
>> reported paying between $100 and $500 for unnecessary tech support 
>> services and products. The raids resulted in the seizure of substantial 
>> evidence including call scripts, live chats, voice call recordings and 
>> customer records from tech support fraud operations, Microsoft said. The 
>> Delhi police's crackdown on tech support call centers came after 
>> Microsoft filed legal complaints earlier this year. Microsoft has been 
>> collecting customer complaints about tech support scams since 2014, via 
>> its "Report a technical support scam" portal.
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Microsoft Tech Support Scams

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

I have the AT app too. I’m with you.


> On Nov 30, 2018, at 12:20 PM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Oh I’m your understudy…we haven’t answered a phone call in years unless the 
> phone announces someone we know…it goes to voicemail and if it’s important 
> they will leave a message…AND, AT has an iPhone app that allows me to view 
> those voices mails messages as text…it is very good at getting the 
> translation darn near perfect….and of course I can view them from any 
> location, I don’t have to be home to retrieve the call.  Once I view the 
> message it’s erased from the phone as well.  If the translation is garbled 
> then I can still listen to the voice recording.  
> 
> I keep the landline due to the ADT alarm system that has to have good 
> connectivity to work properly…and ADT also text me as soon as someone enters 
> the home so I know who is there and when they leave as they send me another 
> text…the log has all activity to view…it’s really a good system…it’s actually 
> costing me nothing as the monthly fee is offset 100% with the discount on my 
> homeowners insurance..
> 
> I never answer a call on the iPhone unless I know who it is…I “tap” the face 
> of the Apple Watch, which silences the ring yet allows the caller to leave a 
> message if they wish…
> 
> All this really cuts down on time and stress of others using my time…
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer > <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> So why do you answer their calls. I NEVER answer a phone unless I know who 
>> is calling.
>> 
>> But I do appreciate your stringing them along.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:06 AM, William Micou >> <mailto:derby...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There’s a great podcast where they try to research one of these ‘support’ 
>>> centers. 
>>> Podcast is “Reply All”, and look for episodes #102 & #103 called ‘Long 
>>> Distance’. 
>>> I too have fun with those calls. I act really excited that they found a 
>>> problem and I’m so thankful that they want to help me.  Eventually I tell 
>>> them I have no Window system. 
>>> Bill
>>> 
>>> "It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.”
>>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:35 AM, John Robinson >> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Funny, love to toy with them and glad the bad guys are being arrested…how 
>>>> many folks go along with them and get suckered….
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Lee Larson >>>> <mailto:leelar...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Over the last few years I’ve been sometimes annoyed and sometimes amused 
>>>>> by the frequent calls from “Microsoft Technical Support” about “problems 
>>>>> with my Windows computer.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> The calls always begin with someone speaking in a heavy Indian accent 
>>>>> saying something like “Hello, this is Edward from Microsoft Technical 
>>>>> Support. We have detected problems with your computer.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just for fun, I usually ask “How do you know it’s my computer?”
>>>>> 
>>>>> Edward: “We have extensive security monitoring and have matched it with 
>>>>> the number under which you registered Windows.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point, I go in one of several directions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I’m in a hurry, I say something like "But I have no Windows 
>>>>> computers.” Or I ask “Does your mother know you’re a criminal?” These are 
>>>>> usually answered by a quick click.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I’m not in a hurry, I’ll play stupid to see how long I can keep 
>>>>> “Edward” on the line by having trouble with my computer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A while back, I fired up VirtualBox on my Linux machine and opened a 
>>>>> Windows VM, just to see what they would do. I connected to the Web site 
>>>>> they suggested and watched lots of traffic as they “diagnosed” my 
>>>>> problems. There were lots of changes to the Windows registry. After a 
>>>>> short time, they came back and suggested things could be fixed for $150. 
>>>>> At that point, I used my mother-criminal line, hung up and deleted the 
>>

Re: [MacGroup] Microsoft Tech Support Scams

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

So why do you answer their calls. I NEVER answer a phone unless I know who is 
calling.

But I do appreciate your stringing them along.

:-)


> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:06 AM, William Micou  wrote:
> 
> There’s a great podcast where they try to research one of these ‘support’ 
> centers. 
> Podcast is “Reply All”, and look for episodes #102 & #103 called ‘Long 
> Distance’. 
> I too have fun with those calls. I act really excited that they found a 
> problem and I’m so thankful that they want to help me.  Eventually I tell 
> them I have no Window system. 
> Bill
> 
> "It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.”
> 
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:35 AM, John Robinson  > wrote:
> 
>> Funny, love to toy with them and glad the bad guys are being arrested…how 
>> many folks go along with them and get suckered….
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Lee Larson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Over the last few years I’ve been sometimes annoyed and sometimes amused by 
>>> the frequent calls from “Microsoft Technical Support” about “problems with 
>>> my Windows computer.”
>>> 
>>> The calls always begin with someone speaking in a heavy Indian accent 
>>> saying something like “Hello, this is Edward from Microsoft Technical 
>>> Support. We have detected problems with your computer.”
>>> 
>>> Just for fun, I usually ask “How do you know it’s my computer?”
>>> 
>>> Edward: “We have extensive security monitoring and have matched it with the 
>>> number under which you registered Windows.”
>>> 
>>> At this point, I go in one of several directions.
>>> 
>>> If I’m in a hurry, I say something like "But I have no Windows computers.” 
>>> Or I ask “Does your mother know you’re a criminal?” These are usually 
>>> answered by a quick click.
>>> 
>>> If I’m not in a hurry, I’ll play stupid to see how long I can keep “Edward” 
>>> on the line by having trouble with my computer.
>>> 
>>> A while back, I fired up VirtualBox on my Linux machine and opened a 
>>> Windows VM, just to see what they would do. I connected to the Web site 
>>> they suggested and watched lots of traffic as they “diagnosed” my problems. 
>>> There were lots of changes to the Windows registry. After a short time, 
>>> they came back and suggested things could be fixed for $150. At that point, 
>>> I used my mother-criminal line, hung up and deleted the Windows VM from the 
>>> Linux machine.
>>> 
>>> This has been going on for years and I’ve often wondered why Microsoft put 
>>> up with it. According to ZDNet, it looks like they finally hit the breaking 
>>> point.
>>> 
 New Delhi police have arrested 63 suspects in the last two months working 
 and operating 26 call centers that were engaging in tech support scams, 
 posing as tech support staff at Microsoft, Google, Apple, and other major 
 tech companies. The raids on Delhi-based call centers have taken place 
 over the last two months, Microsoft said. Police first raided 10 call 
 centers and arrested 24 people in October, and then raided 16 other call 
 centers and made 39 more arrests this week. 
>>> 
 Microsoft said its staff received over 7,000 victim reports associated 
 with the 16 call centers raided this week, from over 15 countries. Users 
 reported paying between $100 and $500 for unnecessary tech support 
 services and products. The raids resulted in the seizure of substantial 
 evidence including call scripts, live chats, voice call recordings and 
 customer records from tech support fraud operations, Microsoft said. The 
 Delhi police's crackdown on tech support call centers came after Microsoft 
 filed legal complaints earlier this year. Microsoft has been collecting 
 customer complaints about tech support scams since 2014, via its "Report a 
 technical support scam" portal.
>>> 
>>> L^2
>>> 
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>>> ‌leelar...@me.com ‌
>>> 
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>>> history by the scrotum.' Of course, he was not a very honourable fighter. 
>>> ‌— Terry Pratchett
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>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] linked in

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks John, bit the problem is I never subscribed. And yet, I get requests to 
link in regularly. 
Thanks for your response. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 27, 2018, at 9:07 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry, 
> 
> I wanted to join Lynda for software training but since Linked.in bought the 
> firm I had to join Linked.in to get to the learning division.  Because of 
> that I get several Linked.in request a week to join some folks I know & some 
> I don’t.  I ignore them all & delete the email.  
> 
> If you want nothing to do with either the business networking or the software 
> training just unsubscribe.   
> 
> John. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 27, 2018, at 9:51 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Hope you had a wonderful holiday.
>> 
>> I keep getting messages from linked in. They show up in my junk mail.
>> 
>> Sometimes they are from people I know but mostly they are from people I have 
>> never heard of.
>> 
>> I noticed today there is a link to unsubscribe. Is it safe to do so or just 
>> keep ignoring the messages.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
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[MacGroup] linked in

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Hello everyone,

Hope you had a wonderful holiday.

I keep getting messages from linked in. They show up in my junk mail.

Sometimes they are from people I know but mostly they are from people I have 
never heard of.

I noticed today there is a link to unsubscribe. Is it safe to do so or just 
keep ignoring the messages.

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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I’m not sure I’m ready for this. I remember a story I read in Boy’s life when I 
was a kid (mid 50s). It was about driverless vehicles. My question would be why 
do we need them? 

I’m just asking!

> On Nov 18, 2018, at 7:15 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> This is a topic I threw out a few weeks ago, now a more definitive line in 
> the sand seems plausible..
> 
> I’m sending to this group as Apple is also deep into this technology, and if 
> this comes to even a fraction of the premise of the article then our 
> investments may need quite the adjustments as well as our lives.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> The Jetson’s? 
> 
> Dick Tracey on a Hoverboard?
> 
> Reality?
> 
> My company has been preparing for this for years, they know, they have 
> informed us that our revenge, thus commissions, are going to tank…
> 
> The insurance industry needs the “float” to make the only profit that is 
> consistent…in the 47 years I’ve been with my company we’ve made an 
> UNDERWRITING profit a handful of times, yet most years we add several billion 
> to the reserve fund….through investment returns.
> 
> It’s so serious the company has devoted a massive amount of money to fund 
> “other businesses”.  
> 
> The company has created a new division charged with finding other businesses 
> we could jump into for as this article says…the technology is going to 
> drastically alter MANY businesses….insurance being one of the hardest hit.
> 
> Your ideas on this projection, way off the mark or right on?
> 
> 
> Driverless cars about to rock your world
> 
> 'Autonomous vehicles' poised to 'change everything'
> Published: 4 hours ago
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> WASHINGTON – When members of Congress are sworn into office in January, some 
> of them, or at least their lower-paid aides, are almost assuredly going to be 
> getting to work in a driverless cab or, “AV for or autonomous vehicle,” as 
> you will soon be calling it.
> 
> Yes, it’s here – a transportation revolution of unimaginable proportions that 
> goes way beyond Google’s Waymo AV cab service debuting next month in Phoenix.
> 
> But 99.9 percent of Americans have not thought about what AVs are going to 
> mean to your lifestyle in the next five years.
> 
>   • You may never own one – or any other kind of car again.
> 
>   • Getting from here to there will be much cheaper and faster for 
> individuals, families and cargo.
> 
>   •  No matter what you think today, everyone will use them – everyone.
> 
>   • The day of people getting paid to drive anything on wheels – cars, 
> trucks, buses, limos, tour buses – will be over.
> 
>   • “Mass transportation” will be something found only in museums.
> 
> It may seem like this you’ve been hearing about this potential for a long 
> time without all that much happening. In reality, developments have been on 
> overdrive for a decade – just out of your view. 
> 
> For instance, Google has been working fast and furious on Waymo for 10 years, 
> clocking up over 10 million test miles with over 5 million of those miles 
> recorded in 2018 alone.
> 
> And that’s just the beginning. Waymo has also done 7 billion computer 
> simulated driving miles of driving in 25 cities.
> 
> 
> 
> Waymo driverless car
> 
> Now these AVs are coming out of the shadows and very much into your view. The 
> only thing holding this story back from being the biggest thing in America is 
> our own limited imaginations.
> 
> This budding industry will “change everything,” insiders say, beyond your 
> comprehension.
> 
> How many AVs are on the road today? Probably less than 1 million. In six 
> years, there will be 60 million.
> 
> Remember how you missed the Amazon’s Initial Public Offering where people who 
> invested $1,000 in 1997 were rewarded with $1,341,000? There will be dozens 
> of IPOs like that will dwarf Jeff Bezos’ Amazon’s record-breaking fortune 
> because of how big the profits from sales of cars and technology and 
> innovation resulting from this new industry.
> 
> Expect Google’s Waymo to cost about the same as an Uber ride, which is a 
> ripoff given the price of the ride is mainly the human element. But Google’s 
> counting on people wanting the daredevil “experience” of taking driverless 
> cars initially. Later the prices will come way down. Even Uber will be forced 
> to go driverless or go out of business.
> 
> Think of the take-out food possibilities, the turnaround for Amazon 
> deliveries, the ability for low-cost pick-up and drop-off service anywhere 
> and everywhere with no tipping and no parking hassles. 
> 
> Some envision this is the revolution we’ve been waiting for to end the 
> commuting nightmare. These AVs could be built for smart commuting in mind.
> 
> The big breakthroughs in technology are the things that look like police 
> sirens on the roofs of these cars. These are not there to scare you but to 
> scoop up massive amounts of location data to keep these babies driving 
> safely. And 

Re: [MacGroup] creating a cd

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Lee, Tom & Jonathan,
It worked, thanks.
> On Nov 12, 2018, at 3:29 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Nov 12, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>>  tried to create a cd of an album I downloaded from Apple Music. Using Toast 
>> Titanium 10 I was able to drag the tunes to the toast window and burn the 
>> cd, however it wouldn’t play in my cd player. It burned the tunes as mp4.
>> 
>> I converted the tunes to .aiff files, burned them to a cd and the cd would 
>> not play in my cd player.
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
> 
> Make a playlist in iTunes and then choose File>Burn Playlist to Disc… in 
> iTunes.
> 
> L^2
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[MacGroup] creating a cd

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I tried to create a cd of an album I downloaded from Apple Music. Using Toast 
Titanium 10 I was able to drag the tunes to the toast window and burn the cd, 
however it wouldn’t play in my cd player. It burned the tunes as mp4.

I converted the tunes to .aiff files, burned them to a cd and the cd would not 
play in my cd player.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.



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[MacGroup] Web hosting sites

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I’m looking to transfer my websites (personal not business related)  from Site5 
(formerly IX web hosting). Any suggestions?

Harry
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Re: [MacGroup] What do you think?

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks I set it as my default search engine.

> On Oct 15, 2018, at 10:40 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> 
> I would love to get away from Google, they are way too intrusive into our 
> lives but I didn’t like Bling so I’ve stuck with the dark side..
> 
> Then tonight a friend suggestedL   
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> 
> I’ve been trying it out as my default search engine for the last hour…so far 
> so good.
> 
> Have any of you tried this company  They make it clear they don’t store a 
> thing of our footprint….
> 
> Any ideas on them?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> John
> 
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[MacGroup] problem with mail and ethernet

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I have 6 year old iMac running os 10.11.6.

I also use PIA version 81.0.0

I have two issues.

1. I have connected my iMac to my AT modem via my mac’s ethernet port. But 
the ethernet functions sporadically. My TiVo is also directly connected to my 
modem and the connection at the modem is always green. However on my iMac the 
connection at the modem is sometimes green and more often yellow. When the 
connection light is yellow I cannot send mail.

2. I also cannot send mail when I have PIA turned on. I’ll click send and the 
OUTBOX mailbox show up and the message sits there. After a minute or two I get 
this message


I

I have to exit PIA to get the mail to actually be sent. 

This happens with my me.com outgoing mail but not with my gmail.com outgoing 
mail.

I don’t seem to have any trouble with incoming mail when PIA is turned on.

This occurs whether I am connected using wifi or using ethernet.

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Re: [MacGroup] Shared calendar

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Hey Dan, I think she can export the calendar then create a new calendar and 
import the old one. The import/export commands are in the file menu.

Harry
> On Sep 11, 2018, at 5:38 PM, Dan  wrote:
> 
> I set up a calendar in Apple’s Calendar app and shared it with a co-worker, 
> so anytime either of us entered a calendar item and assigned it to that 
> calendar, it shows up on both of our calendars.
> 
> I am no longer with that company and no longer want to see events that she 
> has entered in this particular calendar. But, since I was the one who created 
> the calendar, I cannot unsubscribe from it, I can only “stop sharing,” but if 
> I do that, she loses all of the events in her calendar. What I’m trying to do 
> is “switch” ownership of this calendar to her, so she can still use it and I 
> can unsubscribe from it.
> 
> Does anyone know how to do that?
> 
> Can she create a new calendar on her computer and copy all of these existing 
> shared ones to that calendar and thereby make them “hers” and not mine?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Dan Crutcher
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Re: [MacGroup] Need help with cord cutting (tv/ cable)

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Hi Bill,

I have never had cable. Always had an antenna on the roof of my house. It is 
connected to an amplifier (which I purchased from radio shack years ago) and 
from there it goes out to 3 TVs.

Each TV has a TiVo box with lifetime service. Two of the TiVos are Roamios 
(about 3 years old) and one is an older machine. We record broadcast TV shows 
on the TiVo units. With a TiVo stream and a fiber internet you can download 
programs you TiVoed to your iPad and take them with you.

Our internet provider is AT (fiber) but we don’t get TV - I guess that’s 
Uverse. We, too, have Netflix and Amazon Prime. When cable shows I want to 
watch, HBO’s Game of Thrones for example, are being aired, then I subscribe to 
HBO Go for the season, then drop the subscription. While watching the latest  
season of the program I also check out other series in which I am interested. 
For example, while the last season of Game of Thrones was airing for the first 
time I also watched the first season of Westworld.

When CBS aired Star Trek Discovery last fall, I subscribed to CBS All Access 
for the duration of that program. With all access we were also able to stream 
the CBS broadcast series we watch (NCIS) when we were visiting our son in 
Alabama.

With the newer TiVos you can stream netflix, amazon prime and some other 
streaming sites through your non smart TVs. BluRay dvd players also let you do 
this.

I don’t know about sports on cable channels, not my thing, but you can 
certainly watch broadcast TV sports with your antenna. I believe, nowadays you 
can get inexpensive, in-the-home digital antennas which you connect to your TV. 

There is only so much time in the day and I’ll never watch it all, so I pick 
and choose the programming I want. 

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Harry


> On Sep 9, 2018, at 9:15 AM, William Micou  wrote:
> 
> Not really Mac, Apple, computer related,  but other than asking the reddit 
> group, I trust this group and most of you are local, so maybe someone here 
> can help guide me.
> Currently have AT U-verse and do not like it.
> And have Apple TV (2nd gen), and a Sony 4K smart tv.
> I use Amazon Prime video service, and Netflix
> 
> What I want  - I think - is:
> 1. have a dependable internet service. 
> 2. Have OTA (over the air) antenna. 
> 3. Be able to record shows/ movies, and sports.
> 4. Want to use 2 TVs. One is definitely a smart tv.
> 
> Considering 
> Best Buys’ - ClearStream-4MAX-Indoor/Outdoor-HDTV-Antenna,
> SiliconDust HDHomeRun - CONNECT QUATRO Tuner,
> or
> Tivo product (always liked Tivo in the good old days!)
> or
> Tablotv product (this one has some promising features)
> 
> Those of you that have made the change from cable, can you guide me into the 
> light?
> 
> Thanks advance for your input and suggestions.
> 
> Bill Micou
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Unlike Costco, Walmart Has 'No Plans' to Accept Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I’ve stopped using Kroger for most of my grocery shopping. I only get a couple 
of things there that I can’t get at Paul’s Fruit Market, Valu Mart, Costco, and 
Trader Joe’s, all of which take Apple Pay and have for months. Paul’s and Valu 
Mart also have the added advantage of being local.
> On Aug 22, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> This is not surprising at all. Walmart was the biggest mover behind the 
> CurrentC mobile payment system, along with Target, 7-Eleven and a bunch of 
> others. The CurrentC stuff collapsed, largely because it came to be seen as a 
> way for the retailers to track everybody’s purchases. Apple Pay gives little 
> tracking information to the merchants. That’s why Walmart is holding back; 
> they want all that juicy marketing information.
> 
> Target takes Apple Pay in the Target app because the Target Wallet app can be 
> used to give them all the information they want. They’re supposedly going to 
> allow straight Apple Pay in their stores after they upgrade their credit card 
> terminals. We’ll see…
> 
> Since I very rarely shop at Walmart, the one I’m waiting for is Kroger. They 
> have contactless payment terminals in all their stores and only take Chase 
> Pay, which, of course, gives them the marketing information they covet and 
> probably a kickback from Chase. They could turn on Apple Pay overnight.
> 
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> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Costco now accepts Apple Pay across the US

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks Ed. I knew this was coming just not sure when it would be here.


> On Aug 21, 2018, at 8:20 AM, Ed Wiser  wrote:
> 
> Engadget RSS Feed
> Costco now accepts Apple Pay across the US
> Next time you drop by Costco for some groceries or a (non-Polish) hotdog, 
> you'll be able to check out using your iPhone or your Apple Watch. The 
> membership-only wholesale retailer is done installing contactless payment 
> terminals in the US, and in a s... 
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] ApplePay and Costco

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Thanks John, I don’t use Kroger very often. I get my groceries at 3 places - 
Valu Mart and Paul’s Fruit market - both of which are locally owned and 
operated, and Trader Joe’s. All three take Apple Pay.
> On Aug 7, 2018, at 2:39 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> YEA Harry, thanks…we are starting to get the attention of businesses…for some 
> reason folks just don’t understand the nature of the Apple fanatic…and their 
> buying power…but they are starting to learn.  When all this started Best Buy, 
> Target, CVS and others were banning together to form their own payment system…
> 
> Spiral into the ground, now Best buy takes ApplePay, CVS will later this year 
> and if Target hasn’t yet gotten the message, they will…Kroger will also need 
> to eventually come around.
> 
> Did you see where Kroger is in a slugfest with Visa?
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> After Kroger strikes back at Visa, battle over credit-card fees may only get 
> worse
> Maria LaMagna
> Dan Acker/Bloomberg
> Kroger and Visa’s dispute may not make your groceries any cheaper.
> If you have a Visa credit card, be careful next time you go to Kroger: It 
> might get declined. And the same could start happening at more stores.
> 
> Foods Co Supermarkets, part of the Kroger KR, +0.47%  chain, recently said 
> that it will stop accepting Visa V, +0.41%  credit cards at 21 stores and 5 
> gas stations in California starting Aug. 14, because the store is unhappy 
> about Visa’s interchange, or “swipe” fees. 
> 
> Foods Co said it will no longer accept Visa “to save on the high costs 
> associated with the credit card company’s interchange rates and network 
> fees.” Credit card companies including Visa, Mastercard MA, +0.45% and 
> Discover DFS, +1.80% charge merchants every time a customer buys a product 
> using their cards. 
> 
> The fees vary, depending on the relationship between the retailer and the 
> company, but it is typically about 2% to 3% of the purchase price. All those 
> swipe fees can add up, especially for groceries that have relatively low 
> profit margins, said Brendan Miller, a principal analyst at the research firm 
> Forrester who covers payments.
> 
> Kroger has a partnership with Mastercard for its loyalty program, and 
> produces co-branded Mastercards, said Kendrick Sands, a senior consumer 
> finance analyst for the research firm Euromonitor. More Kroger customers 
> could now be encouraged to use Mastercard, he said, or simply turn to debit 
> cards when making purchases.
> 
> Will more retailers stop accepting certain cards?
> 
> It looks increasingly likely that retailers will feel emboldened by the 
> debacle between Kroger and Visa, said Craig Shearman, the vide president for 
> government affairs public relations at the National Retail Federation, a 
> trade group.
> 
> Shearman declined to speak specifically to Kroger’s decision, but he said 
> retailers have little ability to negotiate with credit-card companies, who 
> have “extreme market power” when it comes to how customers pay for purchases. 
> 
> Credit-card companies like Visa set their fees based on factors including the 
> size of the retailer and whether they’re accepting a card payment in person 
> or online. Those fees “are presented on a take-it-or-leave-it basis,” 
> Shearman said.
> 
> “I think retailers are definitely getting more frustrated,” he said. More 
> customers are now paying with credit cards, meaning swipe fees are more of a 
> hot-button issue and larger retailers could bring attention to that, he said. 
> “That’s what gets the attention of the card companies,” he said. 
> 
> Is this good or bad for consumers? 
> 
> Visa has indicated that it’s open to negotiation on the issue. “Visa is 
> disappointed at Kroger’s decision to stop accepting Visa credit cards at its 
> Foods Co. stores. When consumer choice is limited, nobody wins,” a Visa 
> spokesperson said in a statement. “Visa remains committed to working with 
> Kroger to reach a reasonable solution.” 
> 
> “It’s a gamble for Kroger,” said Matt Schulz, the chief industry analyst at 
> credit-card website CompareCards. “The average consumer doesn’t know anything 
> about swipe fees. All they would know is that their favorite grocery store no 
> longer accepts their favorite credit card.” Kroger, meanwhile, is likely 
> hoping that Visa will lower its credit-card swipe fees for its stores.
> 
> He agrees with Shearman from NRF. “I think every retailer is going to be 
> watching this really carefully,” he said. 
> 
> The hope for consumers: Retailers will lower their prices if/when they save 
> money on swipe fees, Schulz said. But unfortunately for shoppers, a George 
> Mason University study last year found that retai

[MacGroup] ApplePay and Costco

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I was at Costco this morning and, as I do overtime I shop there, I asked if 
they take Apple Pay yet. Instead of the usual NO, I was told  they will have 
Apple Pay within the week.

Yay!
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Re: [MacGroup] Supreme Court deals a blow to Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

so if you answer your phone with the Apple Watch does it have a speaker? If 
not, don’t you still have to dig your iPhone out of your pocket?
> On Jul 1, 2018, at 10:30 AM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On Jun 30, 2018, at 10:26 PM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
>> If the folks that have an Apple Watch would use ApplePay the merchants would 
>> be overwhelmed & more quickly adopt the system.  I see the Watch on a large 
>> number of people, I’ll walk up & ask most of them if they are using it for 
>> ApplePay, 90% say no.  I tell them they are forgoing it’s best feature, 
>> unless you include health monitoring.  Most tell me they will get serious 
>> just to get this creep away. 
> 
> I was given an Apple Watch for Christmas. I have to admit ApplePay is the 
> nicest feature of the gadget. Other things come close such as answering a 
> call with it instead of digging the phone out of my pocket, and unlocking a 
> Mac by just sitting down in front of it.
> 
> For a while I was obsessed with filling in the circles. That’s worn off 
> because I compared the step count on the watch with that from a good 
> pedometer—not even close! The watch was much higher.
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Supreme Court deals a blow to Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

How is using Apple Pay on the Apple Watch different than using it on your 
iPhone?



> On Jun 30, 2018, at 10:26 PM, John Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> If the folks that have an Apple Watch would use ApplePay the merchants would 
> be overwhelmed & more quickly adopt the system.  I see the Watch on a large 
> number of people, I’ll walk up & ask most of them if they are using it for 
> ApplePay, 90% say no.  I tell them they are forgoing it’s best feature, 
> unless you include health monitoring.  Most tell me they will get serious 
> just to get this creep away.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I too find I’m explaining how it works to some merchants.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:10 PM, John Robinson  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve never had a merchant ask me either, rather I’m explaining what it is, 
>>> how it works, & I’ll shop where it’s offered.  This week I went to ACE to 
>>> get a part, the ApplePay was not working, I said I shop there because of 
>>> Apple & they need to make the repairs. 
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:e
>>>> 
>>>> My Amex card is attached to Apple Pay and I use it regularly.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve never had a merchant ask me to use Apple Pay, however.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 4:14 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Supreme Court deals a blow to Apple Pay
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Re: [MacGroup] Supreme Court deals a blow to Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I too find I’m explaining how it works to some merchants.


> On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:10 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> I’ve never had a merchant ask me either, rather I’m explaining what it is, 
> how it works, & I’ll shop where it’s offered.  This week I went to ACE to get 
> a part, the ApplePay was not working, I said I shop there because of Apple & 
> they need to make the repairs. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 4:50 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:e
>> 
>> My Amex card is attached to Apple Pay and I use it regularly.
>> 
>> I’ve never had a merchant ask me to use Apple Pay, however.
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 4:14 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Supreme Court deals a blow to Apple Pay
>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cultofmac.com_558919_apple-2Dpay-2Dsupreme-2Dcourt-2Damerican-2Dexpress_=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=NDmGgBnT7dex0KZSxKbJNMCTvhYYGYbEKweHC2kvQok=LuE9y-bpzXoUp4WIvWN_YV9pEgfzI7j_VTX3JZUa_GI=
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Re: [MacGroup] Supreme Court deals a blow to Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

My Amex card is attached to Apple Pay and I use it regularly.

I’ve never had a merchant ask me to use Apple Pay, however.

> On Jun 30, 2018, at 4:14 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Supreme Court deals a blow to Apple Pay
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.cultofmac.com_558919_apple-2Dpay-2Dsupreme-2Dcourt-2Damerican-2Dexpress_=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=NDmGgBnT7dex0KZSxKbJNMCTvhYYGYbEKweHC2kvQok=LuE9y-bpzXoUp4WIvWN_YV9pEgfzI7j_VTX3JZUa_GI=
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

This doesn’t tell me how to do it. How does apple pay on my phone connect with 
the site from which I am purchasing something.
Also I don’t have an Apple Watch or face recognition and my otterbox case won’t 
let me use my fingerprint on my phone. I enter my pass code whenever I use 
Applepay in the store.

Harry

> On Jun 20, 2018, at 9:44 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Near-Field Communication.  They need to be within 4 cm of each other.  
> 
> On line it’s a breeze, at checkout click on ApplePay, depending on the site 
> there may be shuttle differences but the bottom line is you don’t have to 
> enter a card, no expiration date, no security code from the back, no name, no 
> address, no phone number. 
> 
> Apple takes care of the shipping & payment without you doing a thing.  
> 
> The payment is completed by either face recognition, fingerprint, or if your 
> wearing an Apple Watch it will flash for you to double click the bottom 
> button, the same one you use at retail checkout.  
> 
> Once you complete this you are done. 
> 
> Instantly you will receive an email showing the payment, if you check your 
> bank the payment will be listed. 
> 
> If the site is hacked while you are on line or a year later there is nothing 
> in their system about you.  Just think, if everyone used Apple for payments 
> there would not be an issue with our security.  
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:43 PM, Ed Wiser  wrote:
> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Near-2Dfield-5Fcommunication=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=dlISorZPkdbRlIrL_-BRlgX8cgYM4JJJlr52_D8v5Zo=IYrE0b9DStiZnX7EGKKxHiyE-pgEoIfiTOWgHmllySU=
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>> 
>> 
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__appleinsider.com_articles_14_10_20_apple-2Dpay-2Dis-2Donline-2Dtoo-2Dapple-2Dstore-2Dothers-2Dapps-2Daccept-2Dtouch-2Did-2Dfor-2Dauthorizing-2Dpurchases=DwIFaQ=OAG1LQNACBDguGvBeNj18Swhr9TMTjS-x4O_KuapPgY=F2GFXrjLFqVo3VwvIlo_XYeEiRRjHv15rxcenz7A21woG2aFGcrzndoSsskxfmOs=dlISorZPkdbRlIrL_-BRlgX8cgYM4JJJlr52_D8v5Zo=Y_N9XstARsquF9lJwlKjdIQdcZEpx4oHBf0y7jMDAYo=
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> What is NFC?
>>> 
>>> And, how do you use Apple Pay in an online order?
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 5:26 PM, John Robinson  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Harry, all NFC devices charge a fee, debit cards charge a fee, 
>>>> credit cards charge a fee. One day 90+% of establishments will accept NFC 
>>>> or lose the sale, especially as the youth progress up the financial food 
>>>> chain. 
>>>> 
>>>> Many times I back out of an on line order if they don’t take ApplePay. 
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at 
>>>>> all but one stop.
>>>>> 
>>>>> These folks take Apple Pay:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Trader Joes
>>>>>  Paul’s Fruit Market
>>>>>  Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
>>>>>  Valu Mart
>>>>>  Keith’s Hardware
>>>>> 
>>>>> The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t 
>>>>> take Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.
>>>>> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

John,

What is NFC?

And, how do you use Apple Pay in an online order?

Harry


> On Jun 20, 2018, at 5:26 PM, John Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Harry, all NFC devices charge a fee, debit cards charge a fee, credit 
> cards charge a fee. One day 90+% of establishments will accept NFC or lose 
> the sale, especially as the youth progress up the financial food chain. 
> 
> Many times I back out of an on line order if they don’t take ApplePay. 
> 
> John
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 20, 2018, at 4:22 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at all 
>> but one stop.
>> 
>> These folks take Apple Pay:
>> 
>>   Trader Joes
>>   Paul’s Fruit Market
>>   Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
>>   Valu Mart
>>   Keith’s Hardware
>> 
>> The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.
>> 
>> I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t take 
>> Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.
>> 
>> Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.
>> 
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[MacGroup] Apple Pay

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I ran a bunch of errands today - 6 stops. I was able to use Apple Pay at all 
but one stop.

These folks take Apple Pay:

Trader Joes
Paul’s Fruit Market
Mark’s Hallmark store in Gardiner Lane Shopping Center
Valu Mart
Keith’s Hardware

The one place I went that doesn’t take Apple Pay is Costco.

I always ask about it and this time the cashier told me Costco doesn’t take 
Apple Pay because Apple attaches a fee to the transaction.

Don’t know if that’s true or not but thought I would pass it on.

Harry
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[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Sorry for the intrusion.
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Re: [MacGroup] Mail not working

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I’ve shut down PIA and mail seems to be working properly.

But everything was fine till a several days ago. I just don’t understand what’s 
happened.


> On May 31, 2018, at 5:11 PM, Lee Larson  wrote:
> 
> On May 31, 2018, at 4:31 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
>>  I just did and it said mail.me.com is using port 993 which is not one of 
>> the ports you asked about.
> 
> Apple’s mail uses IMAPs by default. The standard IMAPs ports are 993 for 
> incoming mail and 465 for outgoing mail (SMTP). I only listed outgoing ports 
> in my previous note. (IMAPs = secure IMAP = SSL encrypted IMAP)
> 
>>  I Think Apple tech support had me change to that port. What port should 
>> I be using for incoming me.com mail?
> 
> 993 is correct for IMAPs.
> 
>>In the advanced tab in Mail Preferences—> Accounts there is no iMap 
>> Path Prefix: Should there be.
>>Also the Authentication line says Apple Token - is that correct?
> 
> When you’re talking to the iCloud mail server using Apple mail it’s smart 
> enough to use the right prefix automatically.
> 
> The authentication token is the encryption token and it’s supplied by Apple.
> 
>>Again, thanks for your help.
> 
> It doesn’t seem like there’s been any help, so far. Just a lot of wild 
> guesses to keep you busy.
> 
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Re: [MacGroup] Mail not working

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

Ed,

This is problem that started yesterday. Until then mail worked well, so I am 
not sure the link applies.

Thanks.

Harry

On May 24, 2018, at 07:03 PM, Ed Wiser <wisero...@gmail.com> wrote:

Found this answer. 

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Sent from my iPhone

On May 24, 2018, at 6:20 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com> wrote:

 Cannot Send Mail
The connection to the outgoing server “p49-smtp.mail.me.com” failed
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[MacGroup] Mail not working

[Harry Jacobson-Beyer]

I am sending this email from iCloud and not from Apple Mail on my computer.

Since yesterday I am unable to send email on my computer, iPad, and iPhone 
(even if I turn off the wireless connection)

On my phone and iPad I get this message when I try to end an email:

 Cannot Send Mail
The connection to the outgoing server “p49-smtp.mail.me.com” failed
 Additional Outgoing Mail Servers can be configured for
 Mail accounts in Settings>Accounts

On my computer I get this message:

 Cannot send message using the server iCloud
  Connections to the server “p49-smtp.mail.me.com on the default 
ports timed out
   Select a different outgoing mail server from the list below or 
click Try
   Later to leave the message in your Outbox until it can be sent.
    Sending from: Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com>
   
Then the window with all my mail accounts shows that all are offline.

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