[MacGroup] insight/twc
How much longer do twc users have before they have to change their email address from usern...@insightbb.com to usern...@twc.com? I have a friend who won’t use the twc.com? thanks. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight/twc
Several months ago. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: How much longer do twc users have before they have to change their email address from usern...@insightbb.com javascript:; to usern...@twc.com javascript:;? I have a friend who won’t use the twc.com? thanks. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu javascript:; http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight/twc
He can create one using gmail, yahoo, hotmail, etc. On Tuesday, August 26, 2014, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: How much longer do twc users have before they have to change their email address from usern...@insightbb.com javascript:; to usern...@twc.com javascript:;? I have a friend who won’t use the twc.com? thanks. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu javascript:; http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight/twc
Charter communications bought the local contract for cable. In the twc and comcast merger. — Sent from Mailbox On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: How much longer do twc users have before they have to change their email address from usern...@insightbb.com to usern...@twc.com? I have a friend who won’t use the twc.com? thanks. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight/twc
Ed, What do you think about this, a good deal for us or not so good? John On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Ed Wiser wisero...@gmail.com wrote: Charter communications bought the local contract for cable. In the twc and comcast merger. — Sent from Mailbox On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: How much longer do twc users have before they have to change their email address from usern...@insightbb.com to usern...@twc.com? I have a friend who won’t use the twc.com? thanks. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight/twc
I think it means that the insightbb and/or tac will be changing to something else. See news item April 28, 2014 http://www.wdrb.com/story/25368841/charter-to-be-louisvilles-cable-provider-following-comcast-twc-merger Anne Cartwright On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: So what does this mean for people with insightbb.com users? On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Ed Wiser wisero...@gmail.com wrote: Charter communications bought the local contract for cable. In the twc and comcast merger. — Sent from Mailbox On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: How much longer do twc users have before they have to change their email address from usern...@insightbb.com to usern...@twc.com? I have a friend who won’t use the twc.com? thanks. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight/twc
Thanks. On Aug 26, 2014, at 11:41 PM, Anne Cartwright cartw...@aye.net wrote: I think it means that the insightbb and/or tac will be changing to something else. See news item April 28, 2014 http://www.wdrb.com/story/25368841/charter-to-be-louisvilles-cable-provider-following-comcast-twc-merger Anne Cartwright On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: So what does this mean for people with insightbb.com users? On Aug 26, 2014, at 6:38 PM, Ed Wiser wisero...@gmail.com wrote: Charter communications bought the local contract for cable. In the twc and comcast merger. — Sent from Mailbox On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer harr...@me.com wrote: How much longer do twc users have before they have to change their email address from usern...@insightbb.com to usern...@twc.com? I have a friend who won’t use the twc.com? thanks. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] insight
Is anybody in our group working for Insight? I would appreciate an email giving me your phone number or call me at 502 937 2980. I would much appreciate it. Marta ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight
Marta, Hi, what is the issue? John Stone On Thursday, March 21, 2013, Marta Edie wrote: Is anybody in our group working for Insight? I would appreciate an email giving me your phone number or call me at 502 937 2980. I would much appreciate it. *Marta* -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Update
First I want to thank you all for the input. I listened to everything you said. Tuesday Insight came as expected. It turns out the DVR box was fine. I had been given the wrong remote. During the week, I did a ton of research. I have to admit that, though Insight makes me pull my hair out, it still provides pretty good service. So, there it is. I'm still with Insight (for now:-). This is a great group. Thank you all so much for your advice and support. Jane On 1/22/13 9:22 AM, Wiser, Ed wrote: A smart phone requires a data connection. This requires that you pay for the connection monthly. AtT is the only carrier in our area that does both land lines and cell phones . I just use a separate WiFi router and turn off the one in insight's box. We later had to have it put in but that being said we have also had troubles with ATT. I wanted a newer style router N and they kept putting me off. When I did get them back out here a guy that used to work for Insight was downing the last guy as we were supposed be upgraded to newer cabling which he had not done. I also do not understand why I have to have separate internet service for my iPhone 3. My 2 years will be up this year and will be looking for another provider as I do not need the newest phone besides this will be mine. Steve *From:* Wendi Williams wwilli...@p-s-c.us mailto:wwilli...@p-s-c.us *To:* macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu mailto:macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu *Sent:* Monday, January 21, 2013 10:49 AM *Subject:* Re: [MacGroup] Insight That's an excellent post, Jonathan! I believe we can make the world a more pleasant place by putting ourselves in others' shoes. That said, I have had my grumbles with Insight as well. What gets me every time is that any time you call to report that your internet service is down, they think it's an opportune moment to try to sell you their phone service! Still, I like Jonathan's outlook about giving others the benefit of the doubt. And I,too, truly appreciate all the knowledge and insights this group offers! Wendi From: Jonathan Fletcher li...@fletcherdata.com mailto:li...@fletcherdata.com Date: January 21, 2013 1:33:04 AM GMT-05:00 To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu mailto:macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu mailto:macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu On Jan 21, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Suzanne Blake dyby...@insightbb.com mailto:dyby...@insightbb.com wrote: You might have someone call to make sure your phone isn't sending a bizarre message. I was going to say that. You might also give them a second number as a backup. Have you tried calling your own number from a different phone to see what you get? That said, I would think if the same thing happened two days in a row that Insight ought to have a policy that they go to the address anyway. You might just tell them that you have had problems with your phone (even if you are sure you haven't) and you would like them to disregard their procedures and come no matter what. Just an idea. digression I don't think ANY business actually intends to give their customers bad service. They're just people, and people make mistakes. Man, I sure hope that people are forgiving of me when I make mistakes. I'm sorry to say that I have been on both ends of such failures. I have two ex-wives and too many ex-clients that weren't up to the task, but it was definitely NOT because I didn't care about them and wasn't trying my darndest. Insight has its issues (Not very often for me, though). ATT has issues (surprisingly enough, again, not for me). I have heard all kinds of bad things about Verizon and their customers. Dish has good service (if you're not trying to watch the weather channel in a storm). You even hear people ranting and raving about how bad Apple customer service is and ironically they are consistently rated the best in customer satisfaction. A business can only try and do what they can and hope that their customers are understanding when misunderstandings or miscommunications or misaligned expectations or GASP misteaks happen! Yes, Insight has the best product for some people, but that doesn't mean you might not be just as happy with ATT. I'll bet there are internet consumers in Chattanooga that can find something to complain about with their 100 Mbit+ service. [Boy, talk about a First World problem!] It's a new year. The world is in turmoil. Let's see what we can do to make our little corner of our little rock a tad more sunny. /digression I don't ever say it, but I do think it. I really appreciate you guys/gals! j. p.s. And, no, I'm not dying. Well quickly, anyway. ::-) p.p.s. Now, get off my lawn! (There, back to normal.) -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat
Re: [MacGroup] Insight
A smart phone requires a data connection. This requires that you pay for the connection monthly. AtT is the only carrier in our area that does both land lines and cell phones . I just use a separate WiFi router and turn off the one in insight's box. We later had to have it put in but that being said we have also had troubles with ATT. I wanted a newer style router N and they kept putting me off. When I did get them back out here a guy that used to work for Insight was downing the last guy as we were supposed be upgraded to newer cabling which he had not done. I also do not understand why I have to have separate internet service for my iPhone 3. My 2 years will be up this year and will be looking for another provider as I do not need the newest phone besides this will be mine. Steve From: Wendi Williams wwilli...@p-s-c.usmailto:wwilli...@p-s-c.us To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight That's an excellent post, Jonathan! I believe we can make the world a more pleasant place by putting ourselves in others' shoes. That said, I have had my grumbles with Insight as well. What gets me every time is that any time you call to report that your internet service is down, they think it's an opportune moment to try to sell you their phone service! Still, I like Jonathan's outlook about giving others the benefit of the doubt. And I,too, truly appreciate all the knowledge and insights this group offers! Wendi From: Jonathan Fletcher li...@fletcherdata.commailto:li...@fletcherdata.com Date: January 21, 2013 1:33:04 AM GMT-05:00 To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu On Jan 21, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Suzanne Blake dyby...@insightbb.commailto:dyby...@insightbb.com wrote: You might have someone call to make sure your phone isn't sending a bizarre message. I was going to say that. You might also give them a second number as a backup. Have you tried calling your own number from a different phone to see what you get? That said, I would think if the same thing happened two days in a row that Insight ought to have a policy that they go to the address anyway. You might just tell them that you have had problems with your phone (even if you are sure you haven't) and you would like them to disregard their procedures and come no matter what. Just an idea. digression I don't think ANY business actually intends to give their customers bad service. They're just people, and people make mistakes. Man, I sure hope that people are forgiving of me when I make mistakes. I'm sorry to say that I have been on both ends of such failures. I have two ex-wives and too many ex-clients that weren't up to the task, but it was definitely NOT because I didn't care about them and wasn't trying my darndest. Insight has its issues (Not very often for me, though). ATT has issues (surprisingly enough, again, not for me). I have heard all kinds of bad things about Verizon and their customers. Dish has good service (if you're not trying to watch the weather channel in a storm). You even hear people ranting and raving about how bad Apple customer service is and ironically they are consistently rated the best in customer satisfaction. A business can only try and do what they can and hope that their customers are understanding when misunderstandings or miscommunications or misaligned expectations or GASP misteaks happen! Yes, Insight has the best product for some people, but that doesn't mean you might not be just as happy with ATT. I'll bet there are internet consumers in Chattanooga that can find something to complain about with their 100 Mbit+ service. [Boy, talk about a First World problem!] It's a new year. The world is in turmoil. Let's see what we can do to make our little corner of our little rock a tad more sunny. /digression I don't ever say it, but I do think it. I really appreciate you guys/gals! j. p.s. And, no, I'm not dying. Well quickly, anyway. ::-) p.p.s. Now, get off my lawn! (There, back to normal.) -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.commailto:jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Personal Blog o'Stuff: http://jfletch.posterous.com Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group First post-apocalyptic meeting: Tuesday, January 22nd, noon to 3:30-ish http://www.kyfmp.com From: Wiser, Ed ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.commailto:ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com Date: January 21, 2013 8:44:37 AM GMT-05:00 To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight
I use a Tivo with insight. I just make sure the guy knows about cable cards. I have had one installer that did and one that did not. In that case I just do the install and let him stand back and watch. Their installers are very bad tech people. Very little knowledge of electronics just what they do every day any thing outside their basic skill set will throw them off. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Suzanne Blake Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:28 AM To: jbl...@win.net; Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight They subcontract their service callers. Mine have always come, but none knows anything about Tivo. Please delete my gmail address from your address book. This message goes to everyone and may not apply to you. On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:16 PM, J. Blake jbl...@win.netmailto:jbl...@win.net wrote: From reading your posts, it doesn't look as though there is anything better than Insight...gosh, I wish there were. This past week they brought me a defective DVR box, so Friday they were supposed to come bring me a good one between 3pm and 5pm. I sat by the phone waiting for them to call first and then come until about 5:30. I called Insight saying where was the tech? They said...get this...he tried to call you twice before 5, but there was no answer (right), so the appointment was canceled. What? My phone works just fine. So sorry they said, he must have called the wrong number. (Meanwhile I ranted and raved so much they gave me a $20 rebate on my bill. I was just furious that they said they called when I believe they didn't.) They said, let us set you up for another appointment for tomorrow (Saturday) between 3 and 5 p.m. I called several times during the day to confirm the tech was coming and that the phone number he had was correct. I said I was definitely expecting him to come. At after 6, I called to find out where he was. They were so sorry. The tech had called right before 5, but because no one answered, the appointment was canceled...AGAIN. As I had sat by the phone all afternoon, by this time I was having apoplexy. They set me up with another appointment for Tuesday between 12 and 1p.m. We'll see if they honor this one. Does Insight care at all about their customers? Please, please tell me there is an alternative to Insight. Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup If you are not the intended addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to internet email for messages of this kind. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight
That's an excellent post, Jonathan! I believe we can make the world a
more pleasant place by putting ourselves in others' shoes.
That said, I have had my grumbles with Insight as well. What gets me
every time is that any time you call to report that your internet
service is down, they think it's an opportune moment to try to sell
you their phone service!
Still, I like Jonathan's outlook about giving others the benefit of
the doubt. And I,too, truly appreciate all the knowledge and insights
this group offers!
Wendi
From: Jonathan Fletcher li...@fletcherdata.com
Date: January 21, 2013 1:33:04 AM GMT-05:00
To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight
Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
On Jan 21, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Suzanne Blake dyby...@insightbb.com
wrote:
You might have someone call to make sure your phone isn't sending a
bizarre message.
I was going to say that. You might also give them a second number as
a backup. Have you tried calling your own number from a different
phone to see what you get?
That said, I would think if the same thing happened two days in a
row that Insight ought to have a policy that they go to the address
anyway. You might just tell them that you have had problems with
your phone (even if you are sure you haven't) and you would like
them to disregard their procedures and come no matter what. Just an
idea.
digression
I don't think ANY business actually intends to give their customers
bad service. They're just people, and people make mistakes. Man, I
sure hope that people are forgiving of me when I make mistakes. I'm
sorry to say that I have been on both ends of such failures. I have
two ex-wives and too many ex-clients that weren't up to the task,
but it was definitely NOT because I didn't care about them and
wasn't trying my darndest.
Insight has its issues (Not very often for me, though). ATT has
issues (surprisingly enough, again, not for me). I have heard all
kinds of bad things about Verizon and their customers. Dish has good
service (if you're not trying to watch the weather channel in a
storm). You even hear people ranting and raving about how bad Apple
customer service is and ironically they are consistently rated the
best in customer satisfaction. A business can only try and do what
they can and hope that their customers are understanding when
misunderstandings or miscommunications or misaligned expectations or
GASP misteaks happen!
Yes, Insight has the best product for some people, but that doesn't
mean you might not be just as happy with ATT. I'll bet there are
internet consumers in Chattanooga that can find something to
complain about with their 100 Mbit+ service. [Boy, talk about a
First World problem!]
It's a new year. The world is in turmoil. Let's see what we can do
to make our little corner of our little rock a tad more sunny.
/digression
I don't ever say it, but I do think it. I really appreciate you guys/
gals!
j.
p.s. And, no, I'm not dying. Well quickly, anyway. ::-)
p.p.s. Now, get off my lawn! (There, back to normal.)
--
Jonathan Fletcher
FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer
Fletcher Data Consulting
jonat...@fletcherdata.com
http://www.fletcherdata.com
502-509-7137
Personal Blog o'Stuff: http://jfletch.posterous.com
Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group
First post-apocalyptic meeting: Tuesday, January 22nd, noon to
3:30-ish
http://www.kyfmp.com
From: Wiser, Ed ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com
Date: January 21, 2013 8:44:37 AM GMT-05:00
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight
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I use a Tivo with insight. I just make sure the guy knows about
cable cards. I have had one installer that did and one that did not.
In that case I just do the install and let him stand back and watch.
Their installers are very bad tech people. Very little knowledge of
electronics just what they do every day any thing outside their
basic skill set will throw them off.
From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu
] On Behalf Of Suzanne Blake
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 12:28 AM
To: jbl...@win.net; Topics related to Apple
Re: [MacGroup] Insight
We had moved from over by Tom, we lived on Southern Heights and moved in with her Father to take care of him. Insight was our provider at the time so we had it transferred here off of Bluelick Rd. They contract out a lot of work and the guy that came to install it we told him we wanted access to cable in her Fathers room. He starts drilling and doing this and that and some of the rooms that had cable already running to them he decided to take it upon himself to rip it out? We later had to have it put in but that being said we have also had troubles with ATT. I wanted a newer style router N and they kept putting me off. When I did get them back out here a guy that used to work for Insight was downing the last guy as we were supposed be upgraded to newer cabling which he had not done. I also do not understand why I have to have separate internet service for my iPhone 3. My 2 years will be up this year and will be looking for another provider as I do not need the newest phone besides this will be mine. Steve From: Wendi Williams wwilli...@p-s-c.us To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight That's an excellent post, Jonathan! I believe we can make the world a more pleasant place by putting ourselves in others' shoes. That said, I have had my grumbles with Insight as well. What gets me every time is that any time you call to report that your internet service is down, they think it's an opportune moment to try to sell you their phone service! Still, I like Jonathan's outlook about giving others the benefit of the doubt. And I,too, truly appreciate all the knowledge and insights this group offers! Wendi From: Jonathan Fletcher li...@fletcherdata.com Date: January 21, 2013 1:33:04 AM GMT-05:00 To: macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Reply-To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu On Jan 21, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Suzanne Blake dyby...@insightbb.com wrote: You might have someone call to make sure your phone isn't sending a bizarre message. I was going to say that. You might also give them a second number as a backup. Have you tried calling your own number from a different phone to see what you get? That said, I would think if the same thing happened two days in a row that Insight ought to have a policy that they go to the address anyway. You might just tell them that you have had problems with your phone (even if you are sure you haven't) and you would like them to disregard their procedures and come no matter what. Just an idea. digression I don't think ANY business actually intends to give their customers bad service. They're just people, and people make mistakes. Man, I sure hope that people are forgiving of me when I make mistakes. I'm sorry to say that I have been on both ends of such failures. I have two ex-wives and too many ex-clients that weren't up to the task, but it was definitely NOT because I didn't care about them and wasn't trying my darndest. Insight has its issues (Not very often for me, though). ATT has issues (surprisingly enough, again, not for me). I have heard all kinds of bad things about Verizon and their customers. Dish has good service (if you're not trying to watch the weather channel in a storm). You even hear people ranting and raving about how bad Apple customer service is and ironically they are consistently rated the best in customer satisfaction. A business can only try and do what they can and hope that their customers are understanding when misunderstandings or miscommunications or misaligned expectations or GASP misteaks happen! Yes, Insight has the best product for some people, but that doesn't mean you might not be just as happy with ATT. I'll bet there are internet consumers in Chattanooga that can find something to complain about with their 100 Mbit+ service. [Boy, talk about a First World problem!] It's a new year. The world is in turmoil. Let's see what we can do to make our little corner of our little rock a tad more sunny. /digression I don't ever say it, but I do think it. I really appreciate you guys/gals! j. p.s. And, no, I'm not dying. Well quickly, anyway. ::-) p.p.s. Now, get off my lawn! (There, back to normal.) -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Personal Blog o'Stuff: http://jfletch.posterous.com Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group First post-apocalyptic meeting: Tuesday, January 22nd, noon to 3:30-ish http://www.kyfmp.com From: Wiser, Ed ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com Date: January 21, 2013 8:44:37 AM GMT-05:00 To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Subject: Re
[MacGroup] Insight
From reading your posts, it doesn't look as though there is anything better than Insight...gosh, I wish there were. This past week they brought me a defective DVR box, so Friday they were supposed to come bring me a good one between 3pm and 5pm. I sat by the phone waiting for them to call first and then come until about 5:30. I called Insight saying where was the tech? They said...get this...he tried to call you twice before 5, but there was no answer (right), so the appointment was canceled. What? My phone works just fine. So sorry they said, he must have called the wrong number. (Meanwhile I ranted and raved so much they gave me a $20 rebate on my bill. I was just furious that they said they called when I believe they didn't.) They said, let us set you up for another appointment for tomorrow (Saturday) between 3 and 5 p.m. I called several times during the day to confirm the tech was coming and that the phone number he had was correct. I said I was definitely expecting him to come. At after 6, I called to find out where he was. They were so sorry. The tech had called right before 5, but because no one answered, the appointment was canceled...AGAIN. As I had sat by the phone all afternoon, by this time I was having apoplexy. They set me up with another appointment for Tuesday between 12 and 1p.m. We'll see if they honor this one. Does Insight care at all about their customers? Please, please tell me there is an alternative to Insight. Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu mailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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U verse and direct TV Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:16 PM, J. Blake jbl...@win.net wrote: From reading your posts, it doesn't look as though there is anything better than Insight...gosh, I wish there were. This past week they brought me a defective DVR box, so Friday they were supposed to come bring me a good one between 3pm and 5pm. I sat by the phone waiting for them to call first and then come until about 5:30. I called Insight saying where was the tech? They said...get this...he tried to call you twice before 5, but there was no answer (right), so the appointment was canceled. What? My phone works just fine. So sorry they said, he must have called the wrong number. (Meanwhile I ranted and raved so much they gave me a $20 rebate on my bill. I was just furious that they said they called when I believe they didn't.) They said, let us set you up for another appointment for tomorrow (Saturday) between 3 and 5 p.m. I called several times during the day to confirm the tech was coming and that the phone number he had was correct. I said I was definitely expecting him to come. At after 6, I called to find out where he was. They were so sorry. The tech had called right before 5, but because no one answered, the appointment was canceled...AGAIN. As I had sat by the phone all afternoon, by this time I was having apoplexy. They set me up with another appointment for Tuesday between 12 and 1p.m. We'll see if they honor this one. Does Insight care at all about their customers? Please, please tell me there is an alternative to Insight. Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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They subcontract their service callers. Mine have always come, but none knows anything about Tivo. Please delete my gmail address from your address book. This message goes to everyone and may not apply to you. On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:16 PM, J. Blake jbl...@win.net wrote: From reading your posts, it doesn't look as though there is anything better than Insight...gosh, I wish there were. This past week they brought me a defective DVR box, so Friday they were supposed to come bring me a good one between 3pm and 5pm. I sat by the phone waiting for them to call first and then come until about 5:30. I called Insight saying where was the tech? They said...get this...he tried to call you twice before 5, but there was no answer (right), so the appointment was canceled. What? My phone works just fine. So sorry they said, he must have called the wrong number. (Meanwhile I ranted and raved so much they gave me a $20 rebate on my bill. I was just furious that they said they called when I believe they didn't.) They said, let us set you up for another appointment for tomorrow (Saturday) between 3 and 5 p.m. I called several times during the day to confirm the tech was coming and that the phone number he had was correct. I said I was definitely expecting him to come. At after 6, I called to find out where he was. They were so sorry. The tech had called right before 5, but because no one answered, the appointment was canceled...AGAIN. As I had sat by the phone all afternoon, by this time I was having apoplexy. They set me up with another appointment for Tuesday between 12 and 1p.m. We'll see if they honor this one. Does Insight care at all about their customers? Please, please tell me there is an alternative to Insight. Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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You might have someone call to make sure your phone isn't sending a bizarre message. Please delete my gmail address from your address book. This message goes to everyone and may not apply to you. On Jan 20, 2013, at 5:16 PM, J. Blake jbl...@win.net wrote: From reading your posts, it doesn't look as though there is anything better than Insight...gosh, I wish there were. This past week they brought me a defective DVR box, so Friday they were supposed to come bring me a good one between 3pm and 5pm. I sat by the phone waiting for them to call first and then come until about 5:30. I called Insight saying where was the tech? They said...get this...he tried to call you twice before 5, but there was no answer (right), so the appointment was canceled. What? My phone works just fine. So sorry they said, he must have called the wrong number. (Meanwhile I ranted and raved so much they gave me a $20 rebate on my bill. I was just furious that they said they called when I believe they didn't.) They said, let us set you up for another appointment for tomorrow (Saturday) between 3 and 5 p.m. I called several times during the day to confirm the tech was coming and that the phone number he had was correct. I said I was definitely expecting him to come. At after 6, I called to find out where he was. They were so sorry. The tech had called right before 5, but because no one answered, the appointment was canceled...AGAIN. As I had sat by the phone all afternoon, by this time I was having apoplexy. They set me up with another appointment for Tuesday between 12 and 1p.m. We'll see if they honor this one. Does Insight care at all about their customers? Please, please tell me there is an alternative to Insight. Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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On Jan 21, 2013, at 12:31 AM, Suzanne Blake dyby...@insightbb.com wrote: You might have someone call to make sure your phone isn't sending a bizarre message. I was going to say that. You might also give them a second number as a backup. Have you tried calling your own number from a different phone to see what you get? That said, I would think if the same thing happened two days in a row that Insight ought to have a policy that they go to the address anyway. You might just tell them that you have had problems with your phone (even if you are sure you haven't) and you would like them to disregard their procedures and come no matter what. Just an idea. digression I don't think ANY business actually intends to give their customers bad service. They're just people, and people make mistakes. Man, I sure hope that people are forgiving of me when I make mistakes. I'm sorry to say that I have been on both ends of such failures. I have two ex-wives and too many ex-clients that weren't up to the task, but it was definitely NOT because I didn't care about them and wasn't trying my darndest. Insight has its issues (Not very often for me, though). ATT has issues (surprisingly enough, again, not for me). I have heard all kinds of bad things about Verizon and their customers. Dish has good service (if you're not trying to watch the weather channel in a storm). You even hear people ranting and raving about how bad Apple customer service is and ironically they are consistently rated the best in customer satisfaction. A business can only try and do what they can and hope that their customers are understanding when misunderstandings or miscommunications or misaligned expectations or GASP misteaks happen! Yes, Insight has the best product for some people, but that doesn't mean you might not be just as happy with ATT. I'll bet there are internet consumers in Chattanooga that can find something to complain about with their 100 Mbit+ service. [Boy, talk about a First World problem!] It's a new year. The world is in turmoil. Let's see what we can do to make our little corner of our little rock a tad more sunny. /digression I don't ever say it, but I do think it. I really appreciate you guys/gals! j. p.s. And, no, I'm not dying. Well quickly, anyway. ::-) p.p.s. Now, get off my lawn! (There, back to normal.) -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Personal Blog o'Stuff: http://jfletch.posterous.com Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group First post-apocalyptic meeting: Tuesday, January 22nd, noon to 3:30-ish http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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I had been having trouble too and I am connected thru ATT and I was going to upgrade 1 step above to the quickest but they said it would not help. My router is in the house along with other computers and my macs are in the garage. It seemed like while my reception was dropping the Insight customers kept showing up as possible network connections. The tech that I talked too turned up the range on the router which helped some but there can be other factors such as distance from the router or other obstacles. My G4's did not have as much problems as did the G5 with extreme it would not pick up at all until I bought an antenna. So, it is not just insight but I am sure others have problems too, I am interested to see what kind of answers you receive. Steve Brown From: John Stone johnsst...@gmail.com To: jbl...@win.net jbl...@win.net; Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight You're wrong, more people are the Insight's network in the evening, but that should have nothing to do about being able to get on and stay connected day vs. night. There must be some other issue day vs.night. John On Sunday, September 16, 2012, J. Blake wrote: From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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Wifi interference from all the other networks in around your house. An at night everyone is online watch Netflix. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 16, 2012, at 7:43 AM, Steven Brown sbrown1...@att.net wrote: I had been having trouble too and I am connected thru ATT and I was going to upgrade 1 step above to the quickest but they said it would not help. My router is in the house along with other computers and my macs are in the garage. It seemed like while my reception was dropping the Insight customers kept showing up as possible network connections. The tech that I talked too turned up the range on the router which helped some but there can be other factors such as distance from the router or other obstacles. My G4's did not have as much problems as did the G5 with extreme it would not pick up at all until I bought an antenna. So, it is not just insight but I am sure others have problems too, I am interested to see what kind of answers you receive. Steve Brown From: John Stone johnsst...@gmail.com To: jbl...@win.net jbl...@win.net; Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight You're wrong, more people are the Insight's network in the evening, but that should have nothing to do about being able to get on and stay connected day vs. night. There must be some other issue day vs.night. John On Sunday, September 16, 2012, J. Blake wrote: From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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Lee, Thanks for the way to check your transmit rate!!! Mine was at 104 on Insight and is working great! I had been having problems with slowness on my longtime Eaethlink DSL so finally switched to Insight, but kept my new router which the Insight guy said was much better than theirs. I have been amazed with the increase in performance! I even have 2 Internet TVs on it. With DSL it did rebuffering often. Now it has rarely done it. My router is a Netgear which transmits in both 2.4 and 5g. Nora On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:34 AM, J. Blake complained: From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! I doubt it's an Insight problem. You don’t say, but I suspect it's a wireless connection. There's probably a lot more neighborhood WiFi traffic in the evening than during the day. Interference from the other routers can seriously degrade your connection. You can check on your signal strength by clicking on the WiFi icon in the menu bar while holding down the option key. This will show you your channel and other information about the connection. In particular, take a look at the RSSI and transmit rate. If the RSSI is -70 or less, then you have a poor connection. A low or fluctuating transmit rate can also happen from interference. Under 802.11g the maximum transmit rate is 54. 802.11n can go double that, in 5 GHz. (If you have any other g devices in use and you're using the older frequencies for your n connection, it won't go any faster than a g connection.) If your devices are compatible, make sure you're at 802.11n and 5 GHz. There are a few things you can try. Change the channel on your router and you might hit one that's less congested. If your devices are new enough, make sure you are using 802.11n instead of 802.11b or 802.11g and you're set for the 5GHz band. The higher frequencies of the n+5GHz connection aren't used by as many devices like cordless phones and baby monitors, so they tend to be quieter and faster. Those frequencies don’t go through walls as well, however. Move your router closer to the computer, or vice versa. This will increase the signal strength. You could also get a signal booster and put it halfway between. If your router is old, then get a new one. The newer routers are much more robust than those of even four or five years ago. There are a few programs on the App Store that claim to be useful for diagnosing WiFi problems. I've used one called WiFi Scanner, but I don’t claim to know it's the best. (It's only $0.99, so you really don’t have much to lose.) ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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It seems like after 3pm when the kids get home the reception goes down. When I lived over by Tom I hsd to change my wireless phones to the dect 6.0 and got better reception. I think my airport cards are only capable of G and not N, so I do not think a new router would do me much good and besides the one we have now is furnished by ATT. It does seem like since I talked to a tech the other day my G5 is doing better until 3pm. I have been reeading about internet or reception boosters. Do they work? Would I be better off getting a WiFi usb and then getting an N Router? In the garage I am probably 50-75 feet away from the router. Steve From: Lee Larson leelar...@me.com To: jbl...@win.net; Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers macgroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 10:01 AM Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight On Sep 16, 2012, at 1:34 AM, J. Blake complained: From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! I doubt it's an Insight problem. You don’t say, but I suspect it's a wireless connection. There's probably a lot more neighborhood WiFi traffic in the evening than during the day. Interference from the other routers can seriously degrade your connection. You can check on your signal strength by clicking on the WiFi icon in the menu bar while holding down the option key. This will show you your channel and other information about the connection. In particular, take a look at the RSSI and transmit rate. If the RSSI is -70 or less, then you have a poor connection. A low or fluctuating transmit rate can also happen from interference. Under 802.11g the maximum transmit rate is 54. 802.11n can go double that, in 5 GHz. (If you have any other g devices in use and you're using the older frequencies for your n connection, it won't go any faster than a g connection.) If your devices are compatible, make sure you're at 802.11n and 5 GHz. There are a few things you can try. Change the channel on your router and you might hit one that's less congested. If your devices are new enough, make sure you are using 802.11n instead of 802.11b or 802.11g and you're set for the 5GHz band. The higher frequencies of the n+5GHz connection aren't used by as many devices like cordless phones and baby monitors, so they tend to be quieter and faster. Those frequencies don’t go through walls as well, however. Move your router closer to the computer, or vice versa. This will increase the signal strength. You could also get a signal booster and put it halfway between. If your router is old, then get a new one. The newer routers are much more robust than those of even four or five years ago. There are a few programs on the App Store that claim to be useful for diagnosing WiFi problems. I've used one called WiFi Scanner, but I don’t claim to know it's the best. (It's only $0.99, so you really don’t have much to lose.) ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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On 9/16/12 6:22 AM, John Stone johnsst...@gmail.com wrote: You're wrong, more people are the Insight's network in the evening, but that should have nothing to do about being able to get on and stay connected day vs. night. There must be some other issue day vs.night. John On Sunday, September 16, 2012, J. Blake wrote: From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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On 9/16/12 6:22 AM, John Stone johnsst...@gmail.com wrote: You're wrong, more people are the Insight's network in the evening, but that should have nothing to do about being able to get on and stay connected day vs. night. There must be some other issue day vs.night. John On Sunday, September 16, 2012, J. Blake wrote: From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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What kind of Wifi router are you using? We had a fairly late model Linksys that would go in and out on us regularly, and I finally replaced it with an Apple Airport Extreme that has been rock solid since we got it about three months ago. It cost us an extra $100 or so, but it's been well worth it. From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight
Airport Expresses, Extremes and Time Capsules are almost always available on Apple's Deal site, to save you a few bucks: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_accessories On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Dan Crutcher dcrutc...@loumag.com wrote: What kind of Wifi router are you using? We had a fairly late model Linksys that would go in and out on us regularly, and I finally replaced it with an Apple Airport Extreme that has been rock solid since we got it about three months ago. It cost us an extra $100 or so, but it's been well worth it. -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Personal Blog o'Stuff: http://jfletch.posterous.com Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group Next meeting: Tuesday, September 25th, 12:00 pm to 3:30-ish Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight
To all who kindly answered my question about Insight: I ran the speed test from the MacBook Pro (thanks Lee). Here are the results: 802.11n (dlink) RSSI -68 Transmit Rate: 104 As you suspected, I am surrounded by routers in the neighborhood on all sides (at least 5 or 6), and that seems to be the biggest problem. So, I researched your suggestion of getting a signal booster and ordered this one. It had a good Amazon rating and was reasonably priced. It has an upgrade antenna for $6 if I need more power. http://store.bearextender.com/products/bearextender-mini Hopefully, this will be the answer. Thanks again for your replies. This is a GREAT list! Jane On 9/16/12 2:30 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote: Airport Expresses, Extremes and Time Capsules are almost always available on Apple's Deal site, to save you a few bucks: http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/mac_accessories On Sep 16, 2012, at 12:00 PM, Dan Crutcherdcrutc...@loumag.com wrote: What kind of Wifi router are you using? We had a fairly late model Linksys that would go in and out on us regularly, and I finally replaced it with an Apple Airport Extreme that has been rock solid since we got it about three months ago. It cost us an extra $100 or so, but it's been well worth it. -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9/10/11/12 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Personal Blog o'Stuff: http://jfletch.posterous.com Kentuckiana's FileMaker Developers Group Next meeting: Tuesday, September 25th, 12:00 pm to 3:30-ish Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight
On Sep 16, 2012, at 5:53 PM, J. Blake wrote: So, I researched your suggestion of getting a signal booster and ordered this one. It had a good Amazon rating and was reasonably priced. It has an upgrade antenna for $6 if I need more power. Really, I'd just try changing the channel. That usually works. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight
From a back bedroom I can get online easily during the day, but at night it's just a nightmare trying to get and stay connected. It occurred to me that Insight must be dialing back its Internet connection during the evening. So I conducted a speed test; and sure enough, I'm getting just half the Internet speed I'm paying for in the evening. Please tell me if I'm wrong. Otherwise, they will hear from me on Monday!!! Jane ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight Broadband question
I am considering signing up for Insight Broadband. I now do streaming video on my new TV. I noticed for streaming video they recommend their 20.0 broadband. Does that sound right or is anyone doing on the 10.0 broadband? Nora ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Broadband question
I'm using 10.0 with Netflex to my laptop without any trouble. On Nov 9, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Nora Probasco wrote: I am considering signing up for Insight Broadband. I now do streaming video on my new TV. I noticed for streaming video they recommend their 20.0 broadband. Does that sound right or is anyone doing on the 10.0 broadband? Nora ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Tom Guenthner tguenth...@insightbb.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Broadband question
Thanks Tom, that was what I was hoping. I have been using Netflix on my Internet TV. Nora On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Tom Guenthner tguenth...@insightbb.comwrote: I'm using 10.0 with Netflex to my laptop without any trouble. On Nov 9, 2011, at 3:29 PM, Nora Probasco wrote: I am considering signing up for Insight Broadband. I now do streaming video on my new TV. I noticed for streaming video they recommend their 20.0 broadband. Does that sound right or is anyone doing on the 10.0 broadband? Nora ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Tom Guenthner tguenth...@insightbb.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
Hey all, I noticed today that mail.insightbb.com is refusing my password when I use it to send email with another email address in the header. Is this happening to anyone else? Specifics: I have an email-forwarding address (from college) which I use to keep my email independent from whatever ISP I'm using, say bris...@alum.whatsamattau.edu. In the past, when I've sent an email from this address, I've sent it by choosing the server mail.insightbb.com:brising and all has been fine. This outgoing server used my insightbb.com password. Now I'm getting an error saying that my password is invalid, even though the password works just fine when logging in for insight's webmail. Has there been a change at Insight that they can no longer be used in this fashion? I tried searching around on their website to no avail. I am also loathe to ask them directly, in case this would send up a red flag. Any tips? Bill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
Hey all, I noticed today that mail.insightbb.com is refusing my password when I use it to send email with another email address in the header. Is this happening to anyone else? Specifics: I have an email-forwarding address (from college) which I use to keep my email independent from whatever ISP I'm using, say bris...@alum.whatsamattau.edu. In the past, when I've sent an email from this address, I've sent it by choosing the server mail.insightbb.com:brising and all has been fine. This outgoing server used my insightbb.com password. Now I'm getting an error saying that my password is invalid, even though the password works just fine when logging in for insight's webmail. Has there been a change at Insight that they can no longer be used in this fashion? I tried searching around on their website to no avail. I am also loathe to ask them directly, in case this would send up a red flag. Any tips? Bill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
Yes, it happens to me all the time and only to Insighbb friends. I usually transfer the mail to Chrome and it will go through. I normally use Firefox. Very aggravating. Bernie Hey all, I noticed today that mail.insightbb.com is refusing my password when I use it to send email with another email address in the header. Is this happening to anyone else? Specifics: I have an email-forwarding address (from college) which I use to keep my email independent from whatever ISP I'm using, say bris...@alum.whatsamattau.edu. In the past, when I've sent an email from this address, I've sent it by choosing the server mail.insightbb.com:brising and all has been fine. This outgoing server used my insightbb.com password. Now I'm getting an error saying that my password is invalid, even though the password works just fine when logging in for insight's webmail. Has there been a change at Insight that they can no longer be used in this fashion? I tried searching around on their website to no avail. I am also loathe to ask them directly, in case this would send up a red flag. Any tips? Bill ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
It happened to me there for over month, everyday insight needed my password again and again and again, telling me i had the wrong password. It just about drove me somewhere. The last couple of weeks it works again. I was just ready to call Insight. And yes, I have had trouble with my me.com. Several times lately my apple mail was offline for quite a while. The MobileMe worked, but not from the server down. I don't understand those things, but it did drive me up the wall. Marta On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Bill Rising wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:39 , ATT wrote: Yes, it happens to me all the time and only to Insighbb friends. I usually transfer the mail to Chrome and it will go through. I normally use Firefox. Very aggravating. Bernie Well, shoot. The failures are new to me---in fact, today my dot mac (oops me.com) mail would send only sporadically also. The last thing I want to do is try to set up 25 different mail clients. Crap. Thanks, Bill ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:39 , ATT wrote: Yes, it happens to me all the time and only to Insighbb friends. I usually transfer the mail to Chrome and it will go through. I normally use Firefox. Very aggravating. Bernie Well, shoot. The failures are new to me---in fact, today my dot mac (oops me.com) mail would send only sporadically also. The last thing I want to do is try to set up 25 different mail clients. Crap. Thanks, Bill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Bill Rising wrote: I noticed today that mail.insightbb.com is refusing my password when I use it to send email with another email address in the header. Is this happening to anyone else? I had a problem like this last year. I've since switched to the gmail smtp servers when traveling. You can make them append a different From: header. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:02 , Lee Larson wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Bill Rising wrote: I noticed today that mail.insightbb.com is refusing my password when I use it to send email with another email address in the header. Is this happening to anyone else? I had a problem like this last year. I've since switched to the gmail smtp servers when traveling. You can make them append a different From: header. When I looked at that, it looks like Google is correctly adding a -sender- address. I was hoping that it wouldn't do this, because I also have some aliases whose purpose is to mask my real email address. This is probably a Bad Practice on my part, because it is just what the spammers do, even though I do it to avoid spam or track spam sources (poorly in both cases). Bill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Bill Rising wrote: I noticed today that mail.insightbb.com is refusing my password when I use it to send email with another email address in the header. Is this happening to anyone else? I had a problem like this last year. I've since switched to the gmail smtp servers when traveling. You can make them append a different From: header. Everyone: You don't have to use the GMail server only when traveling. You can use them any time. You are SUPPOSED to use your ISPs servers when you're home, but when they are unreliable you can use someone else's. I use the MobileMe servers and the GMail servers at various times. Lee is right: you don't have to tell people you are sending from GMail. (In some circles, it's like having an AOL address: not cool.) . Click on the gear (upper right corner in your GMail mail view) and select Mail Settings. . Click on the Accounts and Import tab . Change the address in the Send mail as: section Enjoy! -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9 10 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group Next meeting: July 26, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
Can't tell you how many times this happens to me, so much that when I leave the house I quit mail for if not I often come home to have the dialogue box hanging up mail waiting for the password. John On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Bill Rising wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:02 , Lee Larson wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Bill Rising wrote: I noticed today that mail.insightbb.com is refusing my password when I use it to send email with another email address in the header. Is this happening to anyone else? I had a problem like this last year. I've since switched to the gmail smtp servers when traveling. You can make them append a different From: header. When I looked at that, it looks like Google is correctly adding a -sender- address. I was hoping that it wouldn't do this, because I also have some aliases whose purpose is to mask my real email address. This is probably a Bad Practice on my part, because it is just what the spammers do, even though I do it to avoid spam or track spam sources (poorly in both cases). Bill ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:44 AM, John Robinson wrote: Can't tell you how many times this happens to me, so much that when I leave the house I quit mail for if not I often come home to have the dialogue box hanging up mail waiting for the password. This has little to do with SMTP servers; it's stupidity in Apple's mail program. It seems that no matter what the problem is with logging into a mail server, Apple's mail.app wants you to enter your password. The program has little facility for detecting other problems such as timeouts because a server is busy or network hiccups. Every error brings up a password dialog. If you check the logs, you'll see there was likely some other unrelated error. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
On Jul 5, 2011, at 12:07 , Lee Larson wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:44 AM, John Robinson wrote: Can't tell you how many times this happens to me, so much that when I leave the house I quit mail for if not I often come home to have the dialogue box hanging up mail waiting for the password. This has little to do with SMTP servers; it's stupidity in Apple's mail program. It seems that no matter what the problem is with logging into a mail server, Apple's mail.app wants you to enter your password. The program has little facility for detecting other problems such as timeouts because a server is busy or network hiccups. Every error brings up a password dialog. If you check the logs, you'll see there was likely some other unrelated error. Ok, now I'm curious. Where should I look for this? I tried peeking through some Console logs, but didn't find anything which looked like it had to do with Mail having trouble. Is there another place to look for these style log files? Bill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] insight email relaying broken?
On Jul 5, 2011, at 15:26 , Lee Larson wrote: On Jul 5, 2011, at 2:22 PM, Bill Rising wrote: Ok, now I'm curious. Where should I look for this? I tried peeking through some Console logs, but didn't find anything which looked like it had to do with Mail having trouble. Is there another place to look for these style log files? You can watch WindowConnection Doctor in mail.app, or, if you're a glutton for information, you can run the following Applescript. /Library/Scripts/'Mail Scripts'/'Turn on Logging.scpt' OK. I'll give that a try the next time I have trouble. I guess I should consider myself lucky that I've not yet had to deal with this particular problem before. Bill smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Digital clear QAM
Lee, Sorry for the delay in getting back with you. A few will be blocked, but most will stay clear. As I understand it currently. John On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2011, at 5:48 PM, John Stone wrote: The little DAT box converts as you said the digital signal back to something the older TV(non digital TVs) can use, newer tvs that can get over the air digital channels can still get by without the little DAT boxes. There should be sd and hd versions of all channels. If you have other questions, and I'm not sure of the answer I can check at work... Thanks, John! Do you know if Insight is going to actually remove any of the current clear QAM channels as the expansion goes on? ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight Digital clear QAM
On Feb 28, 2011, at 5:55 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: Problem for me is 62-1 and 156 channels are not HD and Insight is getting rid of non HD channels as they duplicate channels as in this case with Three versions of the SyFy channel. No good reason to broadcast three versions of the same content two SD and one HD version. They need the bandwidth for HD and internet and phone so the SD channels will be moving out. I've heard nothing about Insight turning off the clear QAM channels. Have you heard for sure they will be removing channels from the lower tier as they add more HD channels? There are already some clear QAM channels in HD—all the local channels, for example—and they've even been adding a few more, such as WGN. This will likely mean all those people who got digital to analog converters from them last month will be sol because I think those boxes only get clear QAM. I know there are a few Insight employees subscribed to the list. Are you allowed to say anything? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Digital clear QAM
Lee, The little DAT box converts as you said the digital signal back to something the older TV(non digital TVs) can use, newer tvs that can get over the air digital channels can still get by without the little DAT boxes. There should be sd and hd versions of all channels. If you have other questions, and I'm not sure of the answer I can check at work... John On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On Feb 28, 2011, at 5:55 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: Problem for me is 62-1 and 156 channels are not HD and Insight is getting rid of non HD channels as they duplicate channels as in this case with Three versions of the SyFy channel. No good reason to broadcast three versions of the same content two SD and one HD version. They need the bandwidth for HD and internet and phone so the SD channels will be moving out. I've heard nothing about Insight turning off the clear QAM channels. Have you heard for sure they will be removing channels from the lower tier as they add more HD channels? There are already some clear QAM channels in HD—all the local channels, for example—and they've even been adding a few more, such as WGN. This will likely mean all those people who got digital to analog converters from them last month will be sol because I think those boxes only get clear QAM. I know there are a few Insight employees subscribed to the list. Are you allowed to say anything? ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Digital clear QAM
On Feb 28, 2011, at 5:48 PM, John Stone wrote: The little DAT box converts as you said the digital signal back to something the older TV(non digital TVs) can use, newer tvs that can get over the air digital channels can still get by without the little DAT boxes. There should be sd and hd versions of all channels. If you have other questions, and I'm not sure of the answer I can check at work... Thanks, John! Do you know if Insight is going to actually remove any of the current clear QAM channels as the expansion goes on? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Ben, I rethought my reply. They are charging an additional $50.00 OVER the charge the customer is now paying for the 20 meg service, which when I look on my bill is $10.00 per month. The mailings they continued to send said this was an offer for those that already had the 20 meg service. I didn't get a card at my office where I only have the 10 meg. So my total bill for internet service will be $60.00. John On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:30 PM, John Robinson wrote: Ben, Right now they are running a special for $50.00 per month but after that it will be $60.00 a month, according to the rep. I talked to. Could be it will never be more than the 50.00. One additional note, the iPhone performed much better with downloads not much better than before, say around 13.5, BUT the iPhone upload was over 5.0, just like the computers. Prior the upload on the iPhone was in the 1.5 range if I remember right. John On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Ben Hershberg wrote: Would you mind telling us what the 50 meg service costs?-Ben Zion Hershberg On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, John Robinson wrote: Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
According to my Insight bill, 10.0 service is $31.00, upgrade for 20.0 is $12.00, for $43.00 total. So I would have to pay $ 93.00/ month ? I am currently a basic cable/ phone / internet subscriber. The upgrade sounds great if you have a real need for it. Thanks for all the info. Mike On Dec 7, 2010, at 6:58 AM, John Robinson wrote: Ben, I rethought my reply. They are charging an additional $50.00 OVER the charge the customer is now paying for the 20 meg service, which when I look on my bill is $10.00 per month. The mailings they continued to send said this was an offer for those that already had the 20 meg service. I didn't get a card at my office where I only have the 10 meg. So my total bill for internet service will be $60.00. John On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:30 PM, John Robinson wrote: Ben, Right now they are running a special for $50.00 per month but after that it will be $60.00 a month, according to the rep. I talked to. Could be it will never be more than the 50.00. One additional note, the iPhone performed much better with downloads not much better than before, say around 13.5, BUT the iPhone upload was over 5.0, just like the computers. Prior the upload on the iPhone was in the 1.5 range if I remember right. John On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Ben Hershberg wrote: Would you mind telling us what the 50 meg service costs?-Ben Zion Hershberg On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, John Robinson wrote: Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Right, basic internet (10.0) has a cost, 20.0 is an EXTRA charge on top of that, and the 50.0 is advertised as $50 MORE than what 20.0 customers are currently paying. Exact charges vary depending on when you got your service and what other services you have. Mine are: Basic $28 20.0+ $12 So 50.0 would cost me $90 a month. With two phone lines and cable TV, I owe my soul to the Insight store. j. On Dec 7, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Michael Robertson michael.robert...@insightbb.com wrote: According to my Insight bill, 10.0 service is $31.00, upgrade for 20.0 is $12.00, for $43.00 total. So I would have to pay $ 93.00/ month ? I am currently a basic cable/ phone / internet subscriber. The upgrade sounds great if you have a real need for it. Thanks for all the info. -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9 10 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group Next meeting: December 16, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish 1234 S. Third Street, Louisville Info RSVP: http://fmpug.com/scheduleMeetings.php Listserv signup: http://fmpug.com/mailman/listinfo/louisville_fmpug.com Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Awesome, John! I had seen their offer and I so wanted to cancel the TV cable and switch to the higher speed internet (as they cost about the same), but that would have been prohibitively expensive, what with the divorce and all. And the medical bills to cover my brain injuries. Maybe when Insight gets the fiber here, and the Apple TV includes TLC and the food channel I can talk her into it. Nice analysis and news-gethering for us, though, John. Thanks! j. On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson prof...@insightbb.com wrote: Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9 10 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group Next meeting: December 16, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish 1234 S. Third Street, Louisville Info RSVP: http://fmpug.com/scheduleMeetings.php Listserv signup: http://fmpug.com/mailman/listinfo/louisville_fmpug.com Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Jonathan, It's not your brain injuries I worry about it's the divorce, it cost more!! Even if they bring the fiber to the house next year, and install a new modem to handle the fiber and the 100 meg., the existing Airport Extreme's will still handle it, they can handle 150 meg input. I did notice a huge difference in rebooting the router. With either Insight or the ATT DSL, when you plug the router in there is the long pause with the yellow light, finally a blinking yellow light and it eventually goes green. Still had the long pause with the yellow light, the blink was at the most one (1) and it was green, that was a huge difference. Jonathan, you have a lot of friends, several on this list, so if we need to pass the cup just let us know. John On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Jonathan Fletcher wrote: Awesome, John! I had seen their offer and I so wanted to cancel the TV cable and switch to the higher speed internet (as they cost about the same), but that would have been prohibitively expensive, what with the divorce and all. And the medical bills to cover my brain injuries. Maybe when Insight gets the fiber here, and the Apple TV includes TLC and the food channel I can talk her into it. Nice analysis and news-gethering for us, though, John. Thanks! j. On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson prof...@insightbb.com wrote: Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9 10 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group Next meeting: December 16, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish 1234 S. Third Street, Louisville Info RSVP: http://fmpug.com/scheduleMeetings.php Listserv signup: http://fmpug.com/mailman/listinfo/louisville_fmpug.com Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Hopefully a final note from me concerning the Insight 50 meg speeds (O.K., stop applauding) but here is where it REALLY shines. The 505 meg movie that I sent out twice last night, each time the bar on YouSend it started out at 2 hrs, then quickly settled on just over an hour, and it did take that long. I have a close friend with children that would love this so I waited to send the file to him after the new install. Once it started YouSend it landed on 13 minutes and went down from there. The uploading is so much faster. John On Dec 6, 2010, at 12:00 PM, John Robinson prof...@insightbb.com wrote: Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John -- Jonathan Fletcher FileMaker 9 10 Certified Developer Fletcher Data Consulting jonat...@fletcherdata.com http://www.fletcherdata.com 502-509-7137 Kentuckiana's FileMaker Users Group Next meeting: December 16, 12:00 pm to 3:00-ish 1234 S. Third Street, Louisville Info RSVP: http://fmpug.com/scheduleMeetings.php Listserv signup: http://fmpug.com/mailman/listinfo/louisville_fmpug.com Blog: http://www.kyfmp.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Would you mind telling us what the 50 meg service costs?-Ben Zion Hershberg On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, John Robinson wrote: Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight 50 meg
Ben, Right now they are running a special for $50.00 per month but after that it will be $60.00 a month, according to the rep. I talked to. Could be it will never be more than the 50.00. One additional note, the iPhone performed much better with downloads not much better than before, say around 13.5, BUT the iPhone upload was over 5.0, just like the computers. Prior the upload on the iPhone was in the 1.5 range if I remember right. John On Dec 6, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Ben Hershberg wrote: Would you mind telling us what the 50 meg service costs?-Ben Zion Hershberg On Dec 6, 2010, at 9:56 AM, John Robinson wrote: Insight has just left, the Apple Airport Extreme handles this fantastically, but I did have a question answered that has always bothered me. I had wondered if my download speed was 10 meg, or 20 would I really be getting the full usage for unless the site I visited had an UPLOAD speed close to my download speed then I was not going to get the benefit of the higher speed? Today I found that was true. This weekend we took the grandchildren to the Polar Express train ride in French Lick. I took a high def. camera and videoed much of the trip, taking over 30 min. at least. I put it together in a 5.5 min. movie last night and sent to all the children. The file was 505 meg and I had to use YouSend it to send that large a file. I was noticing that the upload speed was hovering around the 1.3 that Insight offers with the 20 meg. I sent myself a copy of the video so I could download it this morning to test the 50 meg. The best I was getting was 4.3 down, even though I could take 50. I did this with the tech guy still here and my question for all these years was answered. I AM only going to get what the site I go to will upload. Makes sense. So where the 50 really helps is downloading multiple items at the same time, I would be able to get THEIR maximum output on each of the downloads until I reached the 50 max. Hm, lots of idle time for the downloads until these vendors increase their upload speeds. He also said that by next year they will offer fiber to the home, with 100 meg download speeds. Once in the home they will offer to install the fiber to the various rooms, but for a home like I have they can't for there isn't an exposed beam anywhere other than the furnace room. The NEXT thing they will offer in a couple years or so will be fiber to their router, that that uses wireless to send the very high speeds throughout the house, hope Apple is ready for this one when it gets here. He said that with my Apple TV I would notice a difference in the downloads (I guess, if Apple can push more than 1 or 2 meg download speeds) and he said the gamers love the 50, but I am not a gamer. I tested the speed with Speedtest.net and sure enough I am hitting right at 50 down and 5.2 up. At least when I am sending a large file I will notice a difference because I am the one with the faster upload speed. John ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight vs BellSouth?
Looking for feedback on Insight vs BellSouth service. My Mom has had Bell South DSL for a few years now and she is always having speed issues that seem related to certain times of day, usually late evening. When I initially called Bell South they blamed it on the router I installed, so I removed it from the equation. Things didn¹t really improve. Last night I was in for a visit and things were working pretty good up until about 8:30 then it slowed to a crawl. Mom said this is typical of that time of day. She has an older G4 and I thought that was part of the problem, but I hooked my MacBook up to her modem to rule out the computer as the problem and it took 5 minutes to load up a web page. (I use my laptop on our home Bell South connection with no problems.) I¹ve spent hours on the phone with Bell South in the past trying to trouble shoot this and they always tell me everything is working fine on their end. After all this time and the things we¹ve done to troubleshoot, I¹m convinced that Bell South has a speed issue in her particular area of Louisville. Just wondered if anyone had any experience with Insight¹s service. I¹m thinking of having her switch providers since she already has cable through them. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight vs BellSouth?
Beth, I have both, but since I am in Indiana here it is called ATT. The DSL line has been as reliable if not more so than Insight, but the best speed I can get is about 5 meg down and less than 1 meg up. I would move to their new system but when they came out to measure I was too far from the fiber, so I have to stay with DSL. Insight is currently 20 down and about 1.5 up. Insight is still having problems since their server crash a few months ago and just this week I had a new box installed and the technician said for them to be fully back to normal it will be many months yet, thus on the TV side we have minor issues but the internet side seems fairly reliable. I can say that service from Insight is MUCH better than ATT. I had a modem go bad and it was difficult talking to people that know little English and less technical abilities. Finally I got them to send me one and it configured much easier than the original so that has certainly improved. I don't understand why DSL slows at night for I thought it was a dedicated line and not shared my others in your node as you have with cable. My speed is the same all times of the day. If they won't send you a new modem to see if that is the problem then yes, dump them. John On Jul 30, 2010, at 1:53 PM, Beth Phillips wrote: Looking for feedback on Insight vs BellSouth service. My Mom has had Bell South DSL for a few years now and she is always having speed issues that seem related to certain times of day, usually late evening. When I initially called Bell South they blamed it on the router I installed, so I removed it from the equation. Things didn’t really improve. Last night I was in for a visit and things were working pretty good up until about 8:30 then it slowed to a crawl. Mom said this is typical of that time of day. She has an older G4 and I thought that was part of the problem, but I hooked my MacBook up to her modem to rule out the computer as the problem and it took 5 minutes to load up a web page. (I use my laptop on our home Bell South connection with no problems.) I’ve spent hours on the phone with Bell South in the past trying to trouble shoot this and they always tell me everything is working fine on their end. After all this time and the things we’ve done to troubleshoot, I’m convinced that Bell South has a speed issue in her particular area of Louisville. Just wondered if anyone had any experience with Insight’s service. I’m thinking of having her switch providers since she already has cable through them. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset.
One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some
software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data
every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the
HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all
the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now.
From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu
[mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:10 PM
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
Subject: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
In the past I have mentioned that I really need a backup system for the cable,
so I have a DSL line as well. Today I found another reason for a backup. I
will post the correspondence I had today with WebEx, the provider of training
materials for Interactive Brokers.
I was not able to download ANY of their training video's, the download would
always freeze, sometimes as soon as it would start, sometimes when it was
around 80% complete. I had been on the phone with Interactive Brokers and they
couldn't figure it out so they sent me to WebEx, their provider of live and
recorded sessions.
I spent a good bit of time with two of their people, and I was to try tonight
and get back with the tech support. We had tried Safari and Firefox, both
doing the same thing.
I am posting the solution to this problem below, who in the world knows why it
works this way in our world but so often it does.
John
Nathan,
Well, you are NOT going to believe this one.
I have 5 Mac's here, all on a Cable high speed line that normally pushes 20 meg
downloads other than the busy times at night. When you and I talked this
afternoon I had that Mac on high speed cable at the office and that didn't
work. I have one computer on a DSL line, I need it as a backup should the
cable go down.
I tried downloading from all 5 Mac's, using ethernet and then disconnecting and
trying wireless. Nothing, they all fail.
Then I went to the DSL line and I'll be darn, it works perfectly using Safari.
The failures with cable was using Safari and Firefox. I know we have been
having a lot of trouble with the cable of late so they must be doing something
that locks or freezes your feed.
Thank goodness for the backup for I was not going to be able to get what I
needed.
I so appreciate your help, put this one in your book for that one other person
in this country that may experience what I have.
John Robinson
On May 18, 2010, at 3:57 PM, WebEx Help Desk wrote:
John ,
This is in regards with the conversation that we had earlier today where you
reported that the window times out at 85% when trying to download a recording
of 250 MB or greater . When we were working together to determine the cause i
found that you were downloding these recordings from
www.interactivebrokers.comhttp://www.interactivebrokers.com/ and it was
timing out . You were able to reproduce on the same on the MAC computer at your
home .
I did advise you to browse {
https://interactivebrokers.webex.comhttps://interactivebrokers.webex.com/ }
and check if you can download that recording without timing itself out . You
were doing this on the phone but since it took time , you had advised me that
yould call us back if there is any issue . I am sending this email inorder to
ensure if everything is fine .
Thanks and Regards,
Nathan
Technical Support Engineer
WebEx Communications, Inc.
http://support.webex.com/support/knowledgebase.html
?If you should receive a survey regarding this support experience, I would
appreciate it if you would take a couple of minutes to complete the survey as
it helps us to provide you with better service and support.
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
Thanks Ed, so does that mean that good old ATT will be facing the same thing
now that they are starting of offer T.V. along with the phone internet?
John
On May 19, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:
You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being
reset.
One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some
software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data
every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into
the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for
all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now.
From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu
[mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:10 PM
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
Subject: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
In the past I have mentioned that I really need a backup system for the
cable, so I have a DSL line as well. Today I found another reason for a
backup. I will post the correspondence I had today with WebEx, the provider
of training materials for Interactive Brokers.
I was not able to download ANY of their training video's, the download would
always freeze, sometimes as soon as it would start, sometimes when it was
around 80% complete. I had been on the phone with Interactive Brokers and
they couldn't figure it out so they sent me to WebEx, their provider of live
and recorded sessions.
I spent a good bit of time with two of their people, and I was to try tonight
and get back with the tech support. We had tried Safari and Firefox, both
doing the same thing.
I am posting the solution to this problem below, who in the world knows why
it works this way in our world but so often it does.
John
Nathan,
Well, you are NOT going to believe this one.
I have 5 Mac's here, all on a Cable high speed line that normally pushes 20
meg downloads other than the busy times at night. When you and I talked this
afternoon I had that Mac on high speed cable at the office and that didn't
work. I have one computer on a DSL line, I need it as a backup should the
cable go down.
I tried downloading from all 5 Mac's, using ethernet and then disconnecting
and trying wireless. Nothing, they all fail.
Then I went to the DSL line and I'll be darn, it works perfectly using
Safari. The failures with cable was using Safari and Firefox. I know we
have been having a lot of trouble with the cable of late so they must be
doing something that locks or freezes your feed.
Thank goodness for the backup for I was not going to be able to get what I
needed.
I so appreciate your help, put this one in your book for that one other
person in this country that may experience what I have.
John Robinson
On May 18, 2010, at 3:57 PM, WebEx Help Desk wrote:
John ,
This is in regards with the conversation that we had earlier today where you
reported that the window times out at 85% when trying to download a
recording of 250 MB or greater . When we were working together to determine
the cause i found that you were downloding these recordings from
www.interactivebrokers.com and it was timing out . You were able to reproduce
on the same on the MAC computer at your home .
I did advise you to browse { https://interactivebrokers.webex.com } and check
if you can download that recording without timing itself out . You were doing
this on the phone but since it took time , you had advised me that yould call
us back if there is any issue . I am sending this email inorder to ensure if
everything is fine .
Thanks and Regards,
Nathan
Technical Support Engineer
WebEx Communications, Inc.
http://support.webex.com/support/knowledgebase.html
?If you should receive a survey regarding this support experience, I would
appreciate it if you would take a couple of minutes to complete the survey as
it helps us to provide you with better service and support.
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
Ed,
Another thought. A couple months ago Cisco announced their development of new
routers that would allow unheard of speeds on existing infrastructure. They
were saying you could download every book in the library of congress in
seconds, every man woman and child in China could be on the internet at the
same time and a bunch of other unbelievable numbers. Would this router not
solve the problem you mention?
Also I was never clear, were these routers that the providers (ISP's) would
need to use, were they needed by the end user, would they need to be used by
the server? All God's children need one?
John
On May 19, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:
You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being
reset.
One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some
software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data
every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into
the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for
all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now.
From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu
[mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:10 PM
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
Subject: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
In the past I have mentioned that I really need a backup system for the
cable, so I have a DSL line as well. Today I found another reason for a
backup. I will post the correspondence I had today with WebEx, the provider
of training materials for Interactive Brokers.
I was not able to download ANY of their training video's, the download would
always freeze, sometimes as soon as it would start, sometimes when it was
around 80% complete. I had been on the phone with Interactive Brokers and
they couldn't figure it out so they sent me to WebEx, their provider of live
and recorded sessions.
I spent a good bit of time with two of their people, and I was to try tonight
and get back with the tech support. We had tried Safari and Firefox, both
doing the same thing.
I am posting the solution to this problem below, who in the world knows why
it works this way in our world but so often it does.
John
Nathan,
Well, you are NOT going to believe this one.
I have 5 Mac's here, all on a Cable high speed line that normally pushes 20
meg downloads other than the busy times at night. When you and I talked this
afternoon I had that Mac on high speed cable at the office and that didn't
work. I have one computer on a DSL line, I need it as a backup should the
cable go down.
I tried downloading from all 5 Mac's, using ethernet and then disconnecting
and trying wireless. Nothing, they all fail.
Then I went to the DSL line and I'll be darn, it works perfectly using
Safari. The failures with cable was using Safari and Firefox. I know we
have been having a lot of trouble with the cable of late so they must be
doing something that locks or freezes your feed.
Thank goodness for the backup for I was not going to be able to get what I
needed.
I so appreciate your help, put this one in your book for that one other
person in this country that may experience what I have.
John Robinson
On May 18, 2010, at 3:57 PM, WebEx Help Desk wrote:
John ,
This is in regards with the conversation that we had earlier today where you
reported that the window times out at 85% when trying to download a
recording of 250 MB or greater . When we were working together to determine
the cause i found that you were downloding these recordings from
www.interactivebrokers.com and it was timing out . You were able to reproduce
on the same on the MAC computer at your home .
I did advise you to browse { https://interactivebrokers.webex.com } and check
if you can download that recording without timing itself out . You were doing
this on the phone but since it took time , you had advised me that yould call
us back if there is any issue . I am sending this email inorder to ensure if
everything is fine .
Thanks and Regards,
Nathan
Technical Support Engineer
WebEx Communications, Inc.
http://support.webex.com/support/knowledgebase.html
?If you should receive a survey regarding this support experience, I would
appreciate it if you would take a couple of minutes to complete the survey as
it helps us to provide you with better service and support.
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
I have had other users run into this problem before. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Lee Larson Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 8:31 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
A lot of this is how the ISP manages data. Knowing what type of data is being
downloaded in your case video. Insight as well as Bellsouth will change the
rate of the download by the type of data being downloaded. With all the data we
are sending back and forth now days ISP's are watch who and what data they are
download to manage the load on their system. So that one user doesn't cause a
network to have speed issues.
From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu
[mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 7:56 AM
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
Ed,
Another thought. A couple months ago Cisco announced their development of new
routers that would allow unheard of speeds on existing infrastructure. They
were saying you could download every book in the library of congress in
seconds, every man woman and child in China could be on the internet at the
same time and a bunch of other unbelievable numbers. Would this router not
solve the problem you mention?
Also I was never clear, were these routers that the providers (ISP's) would
need to use, were they needed by the end user, would they need to be used by
the server? All God's children need one?
John
On May 19, 2010, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote:
You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset.
One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some
software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data
every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the
HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all
the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now.
From:
macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu
[mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 7:10 PM
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
Subject: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
In the past I have mentioned that I really need a backup system for the cable,
so I have a DSL line as well. Today I found another reason for a backup. I
will post the correspondence I had today with WebEx, the provider of training
materials for Interactive Brokers.
I was not able to download ANY of their training video's, the download would
always freeze, sometimes as soon as it would start, sometimes when it was
around 80% complete. I had been on the phone with Interactive Brokers and they
couldn't figure it out so they sent me to WebEx, their provider of live and
recorded sessions.
I spent a good bit of time with two of their people, and I was to try tonight
and get back with the tech support. We had tried Safari and Firefox, both
doing the same thing.
I am posting the solution to this problem below, who in the world knows why it
works this way in our world but so often it does.
John
Nathan,
Well, you are NOT going to believe this one.
I have 5 Mac's here, all on a Cable high speed line that normally pushes 20 meg
downloads other than the busy times at night. When you and I talked this
afternoon I had that Mac on high speed cable at the office and that didn't
work. I have one computer on a DSL line, I need it as a backup should the
cable go down.
I tried downloading from all 5 Mac's, using ethernet and then disconnecting and
trying wireless. Nothing, they all fail.
Then I went to the DSL line and I'll be darn, it works perfectly using Safari.
The failures with cable was using Safari and Firefox. I know we have been
having a lot of trouble with the cable of late so they must be doing something
that locks or freezes your feed.
Thank goodness for the backup for I was not going to be able to get what I
needed.
I so appreciate your help, put this one in your book for that one other person
in this country that may experience what I have.
John Robinson
On May 18, 2010, at 3:57 PM, WebEx Help Desk wrote:
John ,
This is in regards with the conversation that we had earlier today where you
reported that the window times out at 85% when trying to download a recording
of 250 MB or greater . When we were working together to determine the cause i
found that you were downloding these recordings from
www.interactivebrokers.comhttp://www.interactivebrokers.com/ and it was
timing out . You were able to reproduce on the same on the MAC computer at your
home .
I did advise you to browse {
https://interactivebrokers.webex.comhttps://interactivebrokers.webex.com/ }
and check if you can download that recording without timing itself out . You
were doing this on the phone but since it took time , you had advised me that
yould call us back if there is any issue . I am sending this email inorder to
ensure if everything is fine .
Thanks and Regards,
Nathan
Technical Support Engineer
WebEx
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
On May 19, at 7:55 AM, John Robinson wrote: Another thought. A couple months ago Cisco announced their development of new routers that would allow unheard of speeds on existing infrastructure. They were saying you could download every book in the library of congress in seconds, every man woman and child in China could be on the internet at the same time and a bunch of other unbelievable numbers. Would this router not solve the problem you mention? These new 300 TB routers from Cisco are meant for the Internet backbone, not local cable systems. Cable speeds are constrained by the bandwidths in the DOCSIS 3.0 specification. In the spec, the downstream maximum speed is given as about 43 Mb/s per channel. There is some loss from overhead, so you apparently can’t get much past 35 in the real world, which is why Insight is making noises about offering 30 Mb/s Internet. To up the speed even more, they can give more channels for more money. By the way, when I was researching my new modem last summer, I found out that all DOCSIS 3.0 compliant modems must support at least four channels, so Insight can theoretically crank their download speed up to about 170 Mb/s. (I'm not holding my breath for that one.) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
I have seen it happen what fun it can be. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:29 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.commailto:leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:29 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.commailto:leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
You all, and I mean Lee, and the two Johns and Ed, and a few once in a whiles are absolutely fascinating, despite the fact that all of this is a MYSTERIUM MAGNUM to me. Nevertheless, sometimes I get a bit of a glance in down and uploads and imagine pulleys with big loads going up, and the others sliding down with either Insight BB or ATT on them, wondering how many Gigabites all my thousands and thousands of emails might count altogether. Then I try to follow Lee's climbing into the underworld,the belly of the beast and talking UFS ( why not UFOs) GUID, HFS, MS-DOS with Nelsn, - Oh, what I would give to follow these discussions having somebody sit down with me to explain! I will get something from Jonathan, when he comes over, but I always have so many lower level questions, we don't even get to climb into the big maze. Couldn't we have a meeting and somebody gave explanation in lower case English? As a Daddy explains God to a four year old? Marta On May 19, 2010, at 10:29 AM, John Stone wrote: No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
I'm fairly clear on what Traffic Shaping is... I'll just reiterate that we do not have any packet download limits. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping *From:* macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Stone *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:29 AM *To:* Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers *Subject:* Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
Lemme check, but why are you using any ISP email service? When there is gmail, hotmail, yahoo mail, among others to use so that if you change isp, you don't have to change email address'. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: John do you know what the problem with Insight email severs an iPhone’s is about. Apparently insight’s email servers have been messing up the iPhone mail app for a while now. Causing restore issues for customers and all kinds of flaky issues. *From:* macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Stone *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:05 PM *To:* Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers *Subject:* Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL I'm fairly clear on what Traffic Shaping is... I'll just reiterate that we do not have any packet download limits. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping *From:* macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Stone *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:29 AM *To:* Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers *Subject:* Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
This is not me I am talking about insight customers and iPhones. Based on talking to the apple store geniuses when I am in the store shopping it is one of their number one problems. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:15 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL Lemme check, but why are you using any ISP email service? When there is gmail, hotmail, yahoo mail, among others to use so that if you change isp, you don't have to change email address'. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.commailto:ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: John do you know what the problem with Insight email severs an iPhone's is about. Apparently insight's email servers have been messing up the iPhone mail app for a while now. Causing restore issues for customers and all kinds of flaky issues. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:05 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL I'm fairly clear on what Traffic Shaping is... I'll just reiterate that we do not have any packet download limits. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.commailto:ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:29 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.commailto:leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
I spoke with a couple of the customer mail folks and they haven't seen or heard anything about issues with iPhones and the Insight mail server... Beside the issue that sometimes it appends the @insightbb.com on the end of the login, which goofs things up. similar to what the Mail program on Macs does. Interestingly enough, one of them is a Mac user. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: This is not me I am talking about insight customers and iPhones. Based on talking to the apple store geniuses when I am in the store shopping it is one of their number one problems. *From:* macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Stone *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:15 PM *To:* Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers *Subject:* Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL Lemme check, but why are you using any ISP email service? When there is gmail, hotmail, yahoo mail, among others to use so that if you change isp, you don't have to change email address'. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: John do you know what the problem with Insight email severs an iPhone’s is about. Apparently insight’s email servers have been messing up the iPhone mail app for a while now. Causing restore issues for customers and all kinds of flaky issues. *From:* macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Stone *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:05 PM *To:* Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers *Subject:* Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL I'm fairly clear on what Traffic Shaping is... I'll just reiterate that we do not have any packet download limits. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping *From:* macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] *On Behalf Of *John Stone *Sent:* Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:29 AM *To:* Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers *Subject:* Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty
Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL
Well it is a rather common problem from the discussion at the Apple store. Its one of the first questions they ask if you have Insight as your email server. On May 19, 2010, at 2:09 PM, John Stone wrote: I spoke with a couple of the customer mail folks and they haven't seen or heard anything about issues with iPhones and the Insight mail server... Beside the issue that sometimes it appends the @insightbb.com on the end of the login, which goofs things up. similar to what the Mail program on Macs does. Interestingly enough, one of them is a Mac user. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: This is not me I am talking about insight customers and iPhones. Based on talking to the apple store geniuses when I am in the store shopping it is one of their number one problems. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 1:15 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL Lemme check, but why are you using any ISP email service? When there is gmail, hotmail, yahoo mail, among others to use so that if you change isp, you don't have to change email address'. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: John do you know what the problem with Insight email severs an iPhone’s is about. Apparently insight’s email servers have been messing up the iPhone mail app for a while now. Causing restore issues for customers and all kinds of flaky issues. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:05 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL I'm fairly clear on what Traffic Shaping is... I'll just reiterate that we do not have any packet download limits. John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ed Wiser ewi...@ralcorpfrozen.com wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Stone Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:29 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight and DSL No we(Insight) don't have a packet download limit. I walked over and spoke with the folks that take care of the engineering of Insight BB and we don't! In fact I was told, that they don't know of any ISP that does this... John On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson leelar...@me.com wrote: On May 19, at 5:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: You where hitting the packet download limit and the connection was being reset. One of the reasons I do not have Insight. I do a lot of beta testing some software companies that we All know and love and download gigabytes of data every day and ran into this problem. This is only get worse as we push into the HD TV world the bandwidth on a standard cable line is just not there for all the data they are trying to push down the intertubes now. Does Insight have such a limit? I've never heard of it. I've regularly downloaded files as large as 8GB with no trouble over Insight. ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http
[MacGroup] Insight and DSL
In the past I have mentioned that I really need a backup system for the cable,
so I have a DSL line as well. Today I found another reason for a backup. I
will post the correspondence I had today with WebEx, the provider of training
materials for Interactive Brokers.
I was not able to download ANY of their training video's, the download would
always freeze, sometimes as soon as it would start, sometimes when it was
around 80% complete. I had been on the phone with Interactive Brokers and they
couldn't figure it out so they sent me to WebEx, their provider of live and
recorded sessions.
I spent a good bit of time with two of their people, and I was to try tonight
and get back with the tech support. We had tried Safari and Firefox, both
doing the same thing.
I am posting the solution to this problem below, who in the world knows why it
works this way in our world but so often it does.
John
Nathan,
Well, you are NOT going to believe this one.
I have 5 Mac's here, all on a Cable high speed line that normally pushes 20 meg
downloads other than the busy times at night. When you and I talked this
afternoon I had that Mac on high speed cable at the office and that didn't
work. I have one computer on a DSL line, I need it as a backup should the
cable go down.
I tried downloading from all 5 Mac's, using ethernet and then disconnecting and
trying wireless. Nothing, they all fail.
Then I went to the DSL line and I'll be darn, it works perfectly using Safari.
The failures with cable was using Safari and Firefox. I know we have been
having a lot of trouble with the cable of late so they must be doing something
that locks or freezes your feed.
Thank goodness for the backup for I was not going to be able to get what I
needed.
I so appreciate your help, put this one in your book for that one other person
in this country that may experience what I have.
John Robinson
On May 18, 2010, at 3:57 PM, WebEx Help Desk wrote:
John ,
This is in regards with the conversation that we had earlier today where you
reported that the window times out at 85% when trying to download a
recording of 250 MB or greater . When we were working together to determine
the cause i found that you were downloding these recordings from
www.interactivebrokers.com and it was timing out . You were able to reproduce
on the same on the MAC computer at your home .
I did advise you to browse { https://interactivebrokers.webex.com } and check
if you can download that recording without timing itself out . You were doing
this on the phone but since it took time , you had advised me that yould call
us back if there is any issue . I am sending this email inorder to ensure if
everything is fine .
Thanks and Regards,
Nathan
Technical Support Engineer
WebEx Communications, Inc.
http://support.webex.com/support/knowledgebase.html
?If you should receive a survey regarding this support experience, I would
appreciate it if you would take a couple of minutes to complete the survey as
it helps us to provide you with better service and support.
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
I think they are starting to hit the HD TV wall in bandwidth. On a side note the iPhone and insight email don't play well with each other. From all reports. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:29 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Same here in Southern Indiana, sporadic outages. This is why I have the DSL backup, these companies tend to do this every so often. John On May 13, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ed Wiser wrote: Insight has been working on their system a lot lately. Cable TV was down for several hours last week. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bennett Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:58 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Actually I sent that message on Tues, but its posting was delayed for two days. Jim On May 13, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote: not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.commailto:sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.comhttp://www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
Finally got the mailing from ATT concerning their offer for T.V. high speed internet. As I had mentioned before they have fiber within 3/4 mile from our home and the linemen had been working on the poles for months. The TV package is $54.00 a month for just the basics but the flyer does say you can record up to 4 shows at one time and watch them on any TV in the house. It also says you can program the TV from your wireless phone or your computer. Another bullet point says you can follow 4 channels at once and know when to switch at the optimum time by using Multiview. (screen in screen?) Then there are several packages that include various combinations of TV, internet, home phone and cell (I bet the iPhone won't be included in the cell package). The lowest combination is $99.00 a month for 70 channels, but you then pay another $10.00 a month for High Def. service. The download speeds on this package are a stunning 3 mps. The middle package is $127.00 a month, giving you 300 channels, still paying another $10.00 a month for high def., the download speeds are stunning at 6 mps. The high end package is $147.00 a month, giving you 390 channels, no high def charge and the download speeds are (hold your hat) 12 mps. Some good features with the TV but I sure was expecting more with the internet speeds. John On May 14, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: I think they are starting to hit the HD TV wall in bandwidth. On a side note the iPhone and insight email don’t play well with each other. From all reports. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:29 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Same here in Southern Indiana, sporadic outages. This is why I have the DSL backup, these companies tend to do this every so often. John On May 13, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ed Wiser wrote: Insight has been working on their system a lot lately. Cable TV was down for several hours last week. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bennett Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:58 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Actually I sent that message on Tues, but its posting was delayed for two days. Jim On May 13, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote: not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
I am attached to my TiVo the ability to download programs off and upload to the TiVo are big things to me. The DVR function of the iptv unit are too limiting for don't do any multi room view thou a TiVo does this by it's nature. Uverse as it stands is not in the plans for me at this time. Sent from my iPhone On May 14, 2010, at 6:36 AM, John Robinson prof...@insightbb.com wrote: Finally got the mailing from ATT concerning their offer for T.V. high speed internet. As I had mentioned before they have fiber within 3/4 mile from our home and the linemen had been working on the poles for months. The TV package is $54.00 a month for just the basics but the flyer does say you can record up to 4 shows at one time and watch them on any TV in the house. It also says you can program the TV from your wireless phone or your computer. Another bullet point says you can follow 4 channels at once and know when to switch at the optimum time by using Multiview. (screen in screen?) Then there are several packages that include various combinations of TV, internet, home phone and cell (I bet the iPhone won't be included in the cell package). The lowest combination is $99.00 a month for 70 channels, but you then pay another $10.00 a month for High Def. service. The download speeds on this package are a stunning 3 mps. The middle package is $127.00 a month, giving you 300 channels, still paying another $10.00 a month for high def., the download speeds are stunning at 6 mps. The high end package is $147.00 a month, giving you 390 channels, no high def charge and the download speeds are (hold your hat) 12 mps. Some good features with the TV but I sure was expecting more with the internet speeds. John On May 14, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: I think they are starting to hit the HD TV wall in bandwidth. On a side note the iPhone and insight email don’t play well with e ach other. From all reports. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup- boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of John Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:29 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Same here in Southern Indiana, sporadic outages. This is why I have the DSL backup, these companies tend to do this every so often. John On May 13, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ed Wiser wrote: Insight has been working on their system a lot lately. Cable TV was down for several hours last week. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup- boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bennett Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:58 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Actually I sent that message on Tues, but its posting was delayed for two days. Jim On May 13, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote: not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
And the folks who live out in the country like me, are still suffering with very, very slow dial up service, maybe 5kb/second if we are lucky. I talked to the people at ATT last week about getting internet service through their little plug in thing that received signals from the phone towers, and they informed me that it is available at $60 per month, but that for some reason it is not operating propertly in the Shelbyville area where I live. Maybe I drop by and talk to them again at the end of the summer. In the meantime, don't send me any pictures a 400dpi. You city folks are sure lucky. Neal Hammon On May 414, 1120102007, at 6:36 AM, John Robinson wrote: Finally got the mailing from ATT concerning their offer for T.V. high speed internet. As I had mentioned before they have fiber within 3/4 mile from our home and the linemen had been working on the poles for months. The TV package is $54.00 a month for just the basics but the flyer does say you can record up to 4 shows at one time and watch them on any TV in the house. It also says you can program the TV from your wireless phone or your computer. Another bullet point says you can follow 4 channels at once and know when to switch at the optimum time by using Multiview. (screen in screen?) Then there are several packages that include various combinations of TV, internet, home phone and cell (I bet the iPhone won't be included in the cell package). The lowest combination is $99.00 a month for 70 channels, but you then pay another $10.00 a month for High Def. service. The download speeds on this package are a stunning 3 mps. The middle package is $127.00 a month, giving you 300 channels, still paying another $10.00 a month for high def., the download speeds are stunning at 6 mps. The high end package is $147.00 a month, giving you 390 channels, no high def charge and the download speeds are (hold your hat) 12 mps. Some good features with the TV but I sure was expecting more with the internet speeds. John On May 14, 2010, at 6:19 AM, Ed Wiser wrote: I think they are starting to hit the HD TV wall in bandwidth. On a side note the iPhone and insight email don’t play well with each other. From all reports. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu ] On Behalf Of John Robinson Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:29 PM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Same here in Southern Indiana, sporadic outages. This is why I have the DSL backup, these companies tend to do this every so often. John On May 13, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ed Wiser wrote: Insight has been working on their system a lot lately. Cable TV was down for several hours last week. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu ] On Behalf Of Jim Bennett Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:58 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Actually I sent that message on Tues, but its posting was delayed for two days. Jim On May 13, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote: not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
Actually I sent that message on Tues, but its posting was delayed for two days. Jim On May 13, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote: not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
Insight has been working on their system a lot lately. Cable TV was down for several hours last week. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bennett Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:58 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Actually I sent that message on Tues, but its posting was delayed for two days. Jim On May 13, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote: not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.commailto:sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.comhttp://www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edumailto:MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today
Same here in Southern Indiana, sporadic outages. This is why I have the DSL backup, these companies tend to do this every so often. John On May 13, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Ed Wiser wrote: Insight has been working on their system a lot lately. Cable TV was down for several hours last week. From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bennett Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2010 10:58 AM To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers Subject: Re: [MacGroup] Insight Internet and Phone down today Actually I sent that message on Tues, but its posting was delayed for two days. Jim On May 13, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Sandra Schreiber wrote: not off here near River Road and Blankenbaker On May 11, 2010, at 12:51 PM, James Bennett wrote: My Insight Internet and Phone both crashed today about 11 am (we don't have cable TV). A call to customer service turned up a recording: We are aware there is an outage in your area... Service was just restored (12:40 pm). I wonder how widespread the outage was... Jim ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Sandra Gray Schreiber, AAA Schreiber Silver Schreiber Appraisal Associates 50 River Hill Road Louisville, Ky 40207 office: 502-893-3308 home: 502-893-2303 email: sgssil...@insightbb.com www.schreibersilver.com ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight Outage?
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Re: [MacGroup] Insight TV
Rob, I shall surely take on your offer, except right now i am horizontal with excruciating pain. Somehow I hope they will find the nerves -- thus far --nichts, -- the lower dish at this time also showing off my husband's tomatoes. But I shall get in touch when my faculties return And I will miss the opening of the store tomorrow -- I thought I might have gotten a t-shirt showing off a snow leopard . Think of me , all ye , who will be at the Apple store, take some pictures and give out some flyers. Thus sayeth Marta Marta On Aug 22, 2009, at 16:27 pm, Robert Kersting wrote: I could probably arrange to come take them down for you and get rid of them. I'm not sure what lesson I can give you on what you've got, but I'd be happy to rid you of the eyesores. My satellite pole now holds a bird feeder that the squirrels use most of the time. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Marta Ediemartae...@mac.com wrote: My only experience with Dish-TV was several years back when I wanted some German channels that the local channels did not carry.We had the dish put into the back yard and it served well until I could get the channels on my computer.The thing sits in the yard still, having flowers run around it. Before that we had some huge dish on the roof the reason for its being has been lost in memory, but it still hangs there. The neighborhood never complained.We always thought someone might want them both to experiment. Now I guess they are both to be put into the trash if I could just find somebody to take them down. I suppose I will live out my life with Insight, despite the fact that I do NOT watch TV anymore, I can't handle the stupid advertising, but my husband needs the sports and they are not with the basic stuff. So we are bundled, as i call it. Insight has been actually quite nice and I have had special deals, but we need a new TV, ours was a floor model from the time I was still at The UofL from a place that does not exist anymore, but the TV runs still. I retired in 88. The remote we got from insight when we got the mystery box is on its last leg. We need a bunch of stuff done, but when i think they will send somebody who knows less than I, my blood already curdles.- My husband just wants news, weather, sports. So I keep waiting to find somebody to EXPLAIN why I need a box, when I might be able to buy a TV without a box, why I have to go through those gyrations to first turn on TV, then Cable, and Cable.like a Chameleon, constantly changes, and all they want to tell me that they now have more and more channels which are more of nothingness, and so help me God, when I see one more weatherman or weather-woman make those hand movements over the screen telling me of more ominous stuff that might come our way, I want to say the magic word to turn them into a salt column like Lot's wife. If anyone would like to come out and rid us of the Dishes, not my eating stuff, although i might add a few old ones my grandmother used- they call it here antiques, I call them old, and or would give me a real lesson in what I have, what I should have, how to make use of it most efficiently, I would be pleased. Pay, if not too high, might be considered. Marta On Aug 22, 2009, at 09:17 AM, Robert Kersting wrote: DirecTV's azimuth for Louisville is 206 degrees with an elevation of 43 degrees. You can set up a pretty easy jig to find an ideal spot in your yard. My apartment manager said I could install it as long as it wasn't permanent and no holes were drilled for the cable. I mounted my dish on a galvanized pipe about 6 feet long that I strapped to my balcony railing with hose clamps. This also helped with the grounding issue. Other people I know have done things like bolting it to a wooden box that they nailed to the balcony floor or setting a pipe in a five-gallon bucket filled with cement. I ran the cable behind the porch lamp in the chase with the wiring. The cable comes out through the light switch. There are also special connectors available that let you go through patio doors or windows. In the 12 years I had DirecTV, I only lost the signal about half a dozen times. Especially after I got the larger dish. And I'm not sure about a rooftop antenna, but my powered rabbit ear antenna loses the local stations during bad storms also. Marta, a court-ruling from several years ago says small dishes can't be banned as long as they're installed on property that is exclusively used by you. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but the backyard of a house or the balcony of an apartment qualifies. If your neighbors complain, you've got the right to look them in the eye and say I'm sorry, the US Supreme Court disagrees with you. My biggest problem was the tree across the street. The first three years I was shooting over it. Then it grew. Every couple of years I had to move the satellite pole back a few feet to compensate. My biggest problem, and
Re: [MacGroup] Insight TV
Ouch. Believe me Marta. I literally feel your pain. Just lemme know when you need me. I hope to have a job soon, but weekends are open. I got my copy of Leopard at MacAuthority. No T-shirt, but a nifty stuffed leopard. I'm hoping they'll do the same. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Marta Ediemartae...@mac.com wrote: Rob, I shall surely take on your offer, except right now i am horizontal with excruciating pain. Somehow I hope they will find the nerves -- thus far --nichts, -- the lower dish at this time also showing off my husband's tomatoes. But I shall get in touch when my faculties return And I will miss the opening of the store tomorrow -- I thought I might have gotten a t-shirt showing off a snow leopard . Think of me , all ye , who will be at the Apple store, take some pictures and give out some flyers. Thus sayeth Marta Marta On Aug 22, 2009, at 16:27 pm, Robert Kersting wrote: I could probably arrange to come take them down for you and get rid of them. I'm not sure what lesson I can give you on what you've got, but I'd be happy to rid you of the eyesores. My satellite pole now holds a bird feeder that the squirrels use most of the time. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Marta Ediemartae...@mac.com wrote: My only experience with Dish-TV was several years back when I wanted some German channels that the local channels did not carry.We had the dish put into the back yard and it served well until I could get the channels on my computer.The thing sits in the yard still, having flowers run around it. Before that we had some huge dish on the roof the reason for its being has been lost in memory, but it still hangs there. The neighborhood never complained.We always thought someone might want them both to experiment. Now I guess they are both to be put into the trash if I could just find somebody to take them down. I suppose I will live out my life with Insight, despite the fact that I do NOT watch TV anymore, I can't handle the stupid advertising, but my husband needs the sports and they are not with the basic stuff. So we are bundled, as i call it. Insight has been actually quite nice and I have had special deals, but we need a new TV, ours was a floor model from the time I was still at The UofL from a place that does not exist anymore, but the TV runs still. I retired in 88. The remote we got from insight when we got the mystery box is on its last leg. We need a bunch of stuff done, but when i think they will send somebody who knows less than I, my blood already curdles.- My husband just wants news, weather, sports. So I keep waiting to find somebody to EXPLAIN why I need a box, when I might be able to buy a TV without a box, why I have to go through those gyrations to first turn on TV, then Cable, and Cable.like a Chameleon, constantly changes, and all they want to tell me that they now have more and more channels which are more of nothingness, and so help me God, when I see one more weatherman or weather-woman make those hand movements over the screen telling me of more ominous stuff that might come our way, I want to say the magic word to turn them into a salt column like Lot's wife. If anyone would like to come out and rid us of the Dishes, not my eating stuff, although i might add a few old ones my grandmother used- they call it here antiques, I call them old, and or would give me a real lesson in what I have, what I should have, how to make use of it most efficiently, I would be pleased. Pay, if not too high, might be considered. Marta On Aug 22, 2009, at 09:17 AM, Robert Kersting wrote: DirecTV's azimuth for Louisville is 206 degrees with an elevation of 43 degrees. You can set up a pretty easy jig to find an ideal spot in your yard. My apartment manager said I could install it as long as it wasn't permanent and no holes were drilled for the cable. I mounted my dish on a galvanized pipe about 6 feet long that I strapped to my balcony railing with hose clamps. This also helped with the grounding issue. Other people I know have done things like bolting it to a wooden box that they nailed to the balcony floor or setting a pipe in a five-gallon bucket filled with cement. I ran the cable behind the porch lamp in the chase with the wiring. The cable comes out through the light switch. There are also special connectors available that let you go through patio doors or windows. In the 12 years I had DirecTV, I only lost the signal about half a dozen times. Especially after I got the larger dish. And I'm not sure about a rooftop antenna, but my powered rabbit ear antenna loses the local stations during bad storms also. Marta, a court-ruling from several years ago says small dishes can't be banned as long as they're installed on property that is exclusively used by you. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but the backyard of a house or the balcony of an apartment
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On this subject: When installing a satellite dish, they need to have a clear view to the southern sky, at least with the Dish service. Therefore my dish is installed on the south side of my brick house, just above the telephone service box, and about nine feet above ground. I would have liked to have it lower, so it would be easier to clean off the snow in the winter, but they needed that height to have a clear view thru the trees. Also, be aware that big thunderstorms will stop all satellite transmissions. To get around that, I have a large, old fashion aerial in my attic, so that during storms, I can at least switch off the satellite, and go back to using the aerial, and get the local stations such as 3, 11, 32, 15, etc. Placing the dish on a post, as Marta suggested, is ok too, but you may want to check your neighborhood zoning. In some places, they do not allow you to have a dish in your front yard, and who knows what other restrictions some little village committees might come up with. Neal Hammon rural Shelby County On Aug 421, 1120092007, at 10:47 PM, Marta Edie wrote: No, they sit in the yard and you can camouflage them with plants, they only need enough free space above to focus on that satellite, therefore you are not free to choose the spot. Marta On Aug 21, 2009, at 22:36 pm, Andy Arnold wrote: Good ideas. Do you have to have a dish hanging off your house to get Dish and the others? I think they are banned in my neighborhood! On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Robert Kersting wrote: IIRC, DirecTV and Dish offer hundreds of digital channels at no extra charge. Cheaper than Insight, better support and it's cheaper. Yes, you get all the local stuff too. I'm really amazed more people don't take this route. Sure, your internet access may go up a bit but it's a small price to pay. Step two would be to call Insight and tell them you're discontinuing your cable TV in favor of a satellite dish. I'll bet they'll come up with some special pricing to keep you on board. Just some thoughts. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnoldandyarno...@mac.com wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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DirecTV's azimuth for Louisville is 206 degrees with an elevation of 43 degrees. You can set up a pretty easy jig to find an ideal spot in your yard. My apartment manager said I could install it as long as it wasn't permanent and no holes were drilled for the cable. I mounted my dish on a galvanized pipe about 6 feet long that I strapped to my balcony railing with hose clamps. This also helped with the grounding issue. Other people I know have done things like bolting it to a wooden box that they nailed to the balcony floor or setting a pipe in a five-gallon bucket filled with cement. I ran the cable behind the porch lamp in the chase with the wiring. The cable comes out through the light switch. There are also special connectors available that let you go through patio doors or windows. In the 12 years I had DirecTV, I only lost the signal about half a dozen times. Especially after I got the larger dish. And I'm not sure about a rooftop antenna, but my powered rabbit ear antenna loses the local stations during bad storms also. Marta, a court-ruling from several years ago says small dishes can't be banned as long as they're installed on property that is exclusively used by you. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but the backyard of a house or the balcony of an apartment qualifies. If your neighbors complain, you've got the right to look them in the eye and say I'm sorry, the US Supreme Court disagrees with you. My biggest problem was the tree across the street. The first three years I was shooting over it. Then it grew. Every couple of years I had to move the satellite pole back a few feet to compensate. My biggest problem, and the reason I took it down, is that the programming began to suck so bad I wasn't watching but three or four channels. And eventually, I was able to find those channels on the Internet. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Neal Hammonnoham...@earthlink.net wrote: On this subject: When installing a satellite dish, they need to have a clear view to the southern sky, at least with the Dish service. Therefore my dish is installed on the south side of my brick house, just above the telephone service box, and about nine feet above ground. I would have liked to have it lower, so it would be easier to clean off the snow in the winter, but they needed that height to have a clear view thru the trees. Also, be aware that big thunderstorms will stop all satellite transmissions. To get around that, I have a large, old fashion aerial in my attic, so that during storms, I can at least switch off the satellite, and go back to using the aerial, and get the local stations such as 3, 11, 32, 15, etc. Placing the dish on a post, as Marta suggested, is ok too, but you may want to check your neighborhood zoning. In some places, they do not allow you to have a dish in your front yard, and who knows what other restrictions some little village committees might come up with. Neal Hammon rural Shelby County On Aug 421, 1120092007, at 10:47 PM, Marta Edie wrote: No, they sit in the yard and you can camouflage them with plants, they only need enough free space above to focus on that satellite, therefore you are not free to choose the spot. Marta On Aug 21, 2009, at 22:36 pm, Andy Arnold wrote: Good ideas. Do you have to have a dish hanging off your house to get Dish and the others? I think they are banned in my neighborhood! On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Robert Kersting wrote: IIRC, DirecTV and Dish offer hundreds of digital channels at no extra charge. Cheaper than Insight, better support and it's cheaper. Yes, you get all the local stuff too. I'm really amazed more people don't take this route. Sure, your internet access may go up a bit but it's a small price to pay. Step two would be to call Insight and tell them you're discontinuing your cable TV in favor of a satellite dish. I'll bet they'll come up with some special pricing to keep you on board. Just some thoughts. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnoldandyarno...@mac.com wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of
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My only experience with Dish-TV was several years back when I wanted some German channels that the local channels did not carry.We had the dish put into the back yard and it served well until I could get the channels on my computer.The thing sits in the yard still, having flowers run around it. Before that we had some huge dish on the roof the reason for its being has been lost in memory, but it still hangs there. The neighborhood never complained.We always thought someone might want them both to experiment. Now I guess they are both to be put into the trash if I could just find somebody to take them down. I suppose I will live out my life with Insight, despite the fact that I do NOT watch TV anymore, I can't handle the stupid advertising, but my husband needs the sports and they are not with the basic stuff. So we are bundled, as i call it. Insight has been actually quite nice and I have had special deals, but we need a new TV, ours was a floor model from the time I was still at The UofL from a place that does not exist anymore, but the TV runs still. I retired in 88. The remote we got from insight when we got the mystery box is on its last leg. We need a bunch of stuff done, but when i think they will send somebody who knows less than I, my blood already curdles.- My husband just wants news, weather, sports. So I keep waiting to find somebody to EXPLAIN why I need a box, when I might be able to buy a TV without a box, why I have to go through those gyrations to first turn on TV, then Cable, and Cable.like a Chameleon, constantly changes, and all they want to tell me that they now have more and more channels which are more of nothingness, and so help me God, when I see one more weatherman or weather-woman make those hand movements over the screen telling me of more ominous stuff that might come our way, I want to say the magic word to turn them into a salt column like Lot's wife. If anyone would like to come out and rid us of the Dishes, not my eating stuff, although i might add a few old ones my grandmother used- they call it here antiques, I call them old, and or would give me a real lesson in what I have, what I should have, how to make use of it most efficiently, I would be pleased. Pay, if not too high, might be considered. Marta On Aug 22, 2009, at 09:17 AM, Robert Kersting wrote: DirecTV's azimuth for Louisville is 206 degrees with an elevation of 43 degrees. You can set up a pretty easy jig to find an ideal spot in your yard. My apartment manager said I could install it as long as it wasn't permanent and no holes were drilled for the cable. I mounted my dish on a galvanized pipe about 6 feet long that I strapped to my balcony railing with hose clamps. This also helped with the grounding issue. Other people I know have done things like bolting it to a wooden box that they nailed to the balcony floor or setting a pipe in a five-gallon bucket filled with cement. I ran the cable behind the porch lamp in the chase with the wiring. The cable comes out through the light switch. There are also special connectors available that let you go through patio doors or windows. In the 12 years I had DirecTV, I only lost the signal about half a dozen times. Especially after I got the larger dish. And I'm not sure about a rooftop antenna, but my powered rabbit ear antenna loses the local stations during bad storms also. Marta, a court-ruling from several years ago says small dishes can't be banned as long as they're installed on property that is exclusively used by you. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but the backyard of a house or the balcony of an apartment qualifies. If your neighbors complain, you've got the right to look them in the eye and say I'm sorry, the US Supreme Court disagrees with you. My biggest problem was the tree across the street. The first three years I was shooting over it. Then it grew. Every couple of years I had to move the satellite pole back a few feet to compensate. My biggest problem, and the reason I took it down, is that the programming began to suck so bad I wasn't watching but three or four channels. And eventually, I was able to find those channels on the Internet. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Neal Hammonnoham...@earthlink.net wrote: On this subject: When installing a satellite dish, they need to have a clear view to the southern sky, at least with the Dish service. Therefore my dish is installed on the south side of my brick house, just above the telephone service box, and about nine feet above ground. I would have liked to have it lower, so it would be easier to clean off the snow in the winter, but they needed that height to have a clear view thru the trees. Also, be aware that big thunderstorms will stop all satellite transmissions. To get around that, I have a large, old fashion aerial in my attic, so that during storms, I can at least switch off the satellite, and
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I could probably arrange to come take them down for you and get rid of them. I'm not sure what lesson I can give you on what you've got, but I'd be happy to rid you of the eyesores. My satellite pole now holds a bird feeder that the squirrels use most of the time. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Marta Ediemartae...@mac.com wrote: My only experience with Dish-TV was several years back when I wanted some German channels that the local channels did not carry.We had the dish put into the back yard and it served well until I could get the channels on my computer.The thing sits in the yard still, having flowers run around it. Before that we had some huge dish on the roof the reason for its being has been lost in memory, but it still hangs there. The neighborhood never complained.We always thought someone might want them both to experiment. Now I guess they are both to be put into the trash if I could just find somebody to take them down. I suppose I will live out my life with Insight, despite the fact that I do NOT watch TV anymore, I can't handle the stupid advertising, but my husband needs the sports and they are not with the basic stuff. So we are bundled, as i call it. Insight has been actually quite nice and I have had special deals, but we need a new TV, ours was a floor model from the time I was still at The UofL from a place that does not exist anymore, but the TV runs still. I retired in 88. The remote we got from insight when we got the mystery box is on its last leg. We need a bunch of stuff done, but when i think they will send somebody who knows less than I, my blood already curdles.- My husband just wants news, weather, sports. So I keep waiting to find somebody to EXPLAIN why I need a box, when I might be able to buy a TV without a box, why I have to go through those gyrations to first turn on TV, then Cable, and Cable.like a Chameleon, constantly changes, and all they want to tell me that they now have more and more channels which are more of nothingness, and so help me God, when I see one more weatherman or weather-woman make those hand movements over the screen telling me of more ominous stuff that might come our way, I want to say the magic word to turn them into a salt column like Lot's wife. If anyone would like to come out and rid us of the Dishes, not my eating stuff, although i might add a few old ones my grandmother used- they call it here antiques, I call them old, and or would give me a real lesson in what I have, what I should have, how to make use of it most efficiently, I would be pleased. Pay, if not too high, might be considered. Marta On Aug 22, 2009, at 09:17 AM, Robert Kersting wrote: DirecTV's azimuth for Louisville is 206 degrees with an elevation of 43 degrees. You can set up a pretty easy jig to find an ideal spot in your yard. My apartment manager said I could install it as long as it wasn't permanent and no holes were drilled for the cable. I mounted my dish on a galvanized pipe about 6 feet long that I strapped to my balcony railing with hose clamps. This also helped with the grounding issue. Other people I know have done things like bolting it to a wooden box that they nailed to the balcony floor or setting a pipe in a five-gallon bucket filled with cement. I ran the cable behind the porch lamp in the chase with the wiring. The cable comes out through the light switch. There are also special connectors available that let you go through patio doors or windows. In the 12 years I had DirecTV, I only lost the signal about half a dozen times. Especially after I got the larger dish. And I'm not sure about a rooftop antenna, but my powered rabbit ear antenna loses the local stations during bad storms also. Marta, a court-ruling from several years ago says small dishes can't be banned as long as they're installed on property that is exclusively used by you. I'm not sure of the exact wording, but the backyard of a house or the balcony of an apartment qualifies. If your neighbors complain, you've got the right to look them in the eye and say I'm sorry, the US Supreme Court disagrees with you. My biggest problem was the tree across the street. The first three years I was shooting over it. Then it grew. Every couple of years I had to move the satellite pole back a few feet to compensate. My biggest problem, and the reason I took it down, is that the programming began to suck so bad I wasn't watching but three or four channels. And eventually, I was able to find those channels on the Internet. On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Neal Hammonnoham...@earthlink.net wrote: On this subject: When installing a satellite dish, they need to have a clear view to the southern sky, at least with the Dish service. Therefore my dish is installed on the south side of my brick house, just above the telephone service box, and about nine feet above ground. I would have liked to have it lower, so it would be easier to
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Contrary to what other folks have said the Cable Cards ARE available from Insight. I'm not sure of the monthly fee. Not many folks take this option as the cards can be a little finicky, but they work. John On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnold andyarno...@mac.com wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither -Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
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they are still available from Insight, but the problem is cablecard ready TVs are becoming scarce. Insight will charge about $2/month to run the service into the cards so that you don't need the DVR boxes to decode all the stations. An Insight tech has to install the cablecard. On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:17 AM, John Stone wrote: Contrary to what other folks have said the Cable Cards ARE available from Insight. I'm not sure of the monthly fee. Not many folks take this option as the cards can be a little finicky, but they work. John On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnold andyarno...@mac.com wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup -- U-2 SR-71 web page http://www.blackbirds.net Those who would sacrifice Liberty for Security deserve neither - Benjamin Franklin Read the Constitution - It's Interesting! http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html Blog: http://johnsstone.tumblr.com/ ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight TV
John, It does seem that the cards are still available from Insight (I called) for approx $2 per month. It seems the TVs that can accept them are gone/going. Hmmm... I'm trying to search the archives for our resident NASA engineer's post, but the page I am looking at only has June July August archives. Does anyone know how to go back further? http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup Thanks Andy On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Profile wrote: Andy, I know how you feel, this is a topic that baffles many of us, at least me. Lee has a setup that he can take over NASA anytime he wants and if you can search the archives he has addressed your question fairly well. Implementing them will be another story. Yes to get all the channels you will have to get Insight's box, not a good solution especially if there is a lack of room to set the thing such as in the laundry or kitchen. Yes they get you coming and going on the pricing of each box unless you can understand how to do what Lee has done. The cards have gone away, what a great idea they were but you still would have to pay the $15.00 per month for them to program the card for the package you purchased, you would lose the unsightly box however. John On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnold wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight TV
No, they sit in the yard and you can camouflage them with plants, they only need enough free space above to focus on that satellite, therefore you are not free to choose the spot. Marta On Aug 21, 2009, at 22:36 pm, Andy Arnold wrote: Good ideas. Do you have to have a dish hanging off your house to get Dish and the others? I think they are banned in my neighborhood! On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Robert Kersting wrote: IIRC, DirecTV and Dish offer hundreds of digital channels at no extra charge. Cheaper than Insight, better support and it's cheaper. Yes, you get all the local stuff too. I'm really amazed more people don't take this route. Sure, your internet access may go up a bit but it's a small price to pay. Step two would be to call Insight and tell them you're discontinuing your cable TV in favor of a satellite dish. I'll bet they'll come up with some special pricing to keep you on board. Just some thoughts. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnoldandyarno...@mac.com wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
[MacGroup] Insight TV
Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight TV
Andy, I know how you feel, this is a topic that baffles many of us, at least me. Lee has a setup that he can take over NASA anytime he wants and if you can search the archives he has addressed your question fairly well. Implementing them will be another story. Yes to get all the channels you will have to get Insight's box, not a good solution especially if there is a lack of room to set the thing such as in the laundry or kitchen. Yes they get you coming and going on the pricing of each box unless you can understand how to do what Lee has done. The cards have gone away, what a great idea they were but you still would have to pay the $15.00 per month for them to program the card for the package you purchased, you would lose the unsightly box however. John On Aug 20, 2009, at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnold wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight TV
IIRC, DirecTV and Dish offer hundreds of digital channels at no extra charge. Cheaper than Insight, better support and it's cheaper. Yes, you get all the local stuff too. I'm really amazed more people don't take this route. Sure, your internet access may go up a bit but it's a small price to pay. Step two would be to call Insight and tell them you're discontinuing your cable TV in favor of a satellite dish. I'll bet they'll come up with some special pricing to keep you on board. Just some thoughts. On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Andy Arnoldandyarno...@mac.com wrote: Any cable TV experts in the group? I can't figure this whole racket out... I have a couple HD TVs with built-in tuners... Insight wants $15 per month for their DVR which is supposed to carry many more HD channels than if I plug the cable wire directly into the HD TV. But this is a crude solution for many reasons (one of which is that you can't sync the boxes) Plus I don't watch that much TV, so $30 a month just for the box is crazy. I had heard that some TVs can contain a cable decoder card that will allow the signal from all of Insight's channels to come thru in HD. But now most manufacturers have abandoned that strategy because all TVs have a digital tuner built-in and if your cable company is outputting unscrambled channels then you can tune all the stations through the TV without a cable box or CableCard. Is the problem that Insight is behind the national curve and still scrambling most of their stations? Stop the madness! Would love to hear what others are doing about all of this... BTW, this is still a Mac topic because I have an AppleTV thrown into the mix as well :-) thanks Andy ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ MacGroup mailing list MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
Re: [MacGroup] Insight to firewire
Great Lee, many thanks!! With my techie abilities I will now become dangerous. HA!! John On Nov 23, 2008, at 8:31 AM, Lee Larson wrote: On Nov 22, 2008, at 10:46 PM, Profile wrote: Thanks again. I tried that one and went to get the Apple Firewire SDK and found that it could not be downloaded without being an Apple Developer. Anyone can sign up to be an Apple developer for free. Just sign up and download the files. Here's the site where you sign up. http://tinyurl.com/ qnq2y___ The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will be November 25 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup ___ The next Louisville Computer Society meeting will be November 25 at MacAuthority, 128 Breckinridge Lane. Posting address: MacGroup@erdos.math.louisville.edu Information: http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
