On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 12:43:43PM +0200, Marek Stepanek wrote:
But perhaps this list could help me, to get @INC and $PERL5LIB clean of
/sw ... How is it possible, that I have $PERL5LIB set to
%ENV:
PERL5LIB=/sw/lib/perl5:/sw/lib/perl5/darwin
in [my .profile] I only have one line:
At 11:45 +0100 10/06/2011, David Cantrell wrote:
Several fixes come to mind:
...
4. just set PERl5LIB to whatever you fancy after that line. This will,
however, mean that you override any changes that may be made to your
startup files elsewhere at a later date.
What would be the effect
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
At 11:45 +0100 10/06/2011, David Cantrell wrote:
Several fixes come to mind:
...
4. just set PERl5LIB to whatever you fancy after that line. This will,
however, mean that you override any changes that may be made to your
At 10:38 -0400 10/06/2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
What would be the effect of setting a value (or no value) for PERL5LIB in
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist?
That plist is for setting up environment variables for GUI apps. It
has no effect on shell sessions.
Obviously I'm missing something.
At 10:38 -0400 6/10/11, Sherm Pendley wrote:
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
What would be the effect of setting a value (or no value) for PERL5LIB in
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist?
That plist is for setting up environment variables for GUI apps. It
has no
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:11 AM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
At 10:38 -0400 10/06/2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
What would be the effect of setting a value (or no value) for PERL5LIB
in
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist?
That plist is for setting up environment variables for GUI apps. It
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 04:11:43PM +0100, John Delacour wrote:
At 10:38 -0400 10/06/2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
What would be the effect of setting a value (or no value) for PERL5LIB
in
~/.MacOSX/environment.plist?
That plist is for setting up environment variables for GUI apps. It
has
At 16:47 +0100 10/06/2011, David Cantrell wrote:
Are you using Terminal.app? That's a GUI application, so it takes
effect, and is then inherited by the shell. Try sshing into your
Mac from elsewhere.
Right. I ran a script from cgi-bin on my local server and indeed
this key was missing.
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
Yes, but since .profile is evaluated later, whatever it does will
override what's set in the plist. Thus, changes in the plist will have
no effect on shell sessions that set the same variable.
I use this line in my .bash_profile to make sure I use the
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Jan Dubois j...@activestate.com wrote:
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
Yes, but since .profile is evaluated later, whatever it does will
override what's set in the plist. Thus, changes in the plist will have
no effect on shell sessions that set the
On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
But the question is, should it be done for PERL5LIB? That affects
*all* Perls, and if you've included the path to modules compiled for
(say) 5.12, but you're running 5.10, those modules won't work.
Ah, yes, sorry, lost track of the real topic of the
At 13:21 -0700 10/06/2011, Jan Dubois wrote:
I think a better way to modify your @INC is on a per-installation
basis. For Apple's Perl you have the AppendToPath and PrependToPath
mechanism...
There is no PrependToPath file by default, but you can create one
yourself, and all directories listed
On 09.06.2011 05:38, Sherm Pendley wrote:
I'm probably over-cautious, but I never migrate - I always format and
make a clean install, then do a clean install of all my apps. I back
up my home directory, and copy it over, which preserves all my
personal preferences and such.
sherm--
Sherm,
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Marek Stepanek
marekstepa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
But perhaps this list could help me, to get @INC and $PERL5LIB clean of /sw
... How is it possible, that I have $PERL5LIB set to
%ENV:
PERL5LIB=/sw/lib/perl5:/sw/lib/perl5/darwin
I only see two files:
--As of June 8, 2011 5:39:57 PM -0400, Sherm Pendley is alleged to have
said:
Blaming other people for your ignorance is a habit with you, isn't it?
Yes, I'm responsible for who *I* send emails to. I'm not responsible
for who the list sends emails to. A correctly-configured list will
look at
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote:
Suffice it to say, if someone asks you to not CC them
when you send to the list, it's polite not to. (At least for that
discussion.)
In general, I'd agree - but I also think it's appropriate to consider
the tone reason for
Thank you Sherm!
This is a step in the right direction. But my cpanplus Perl is still
broken, with messages like:
Unable to create a new distribution object for 'Archive::Tar', although
I have no /sw in the %ENV or @INC any more.
% perl -V
even does not show a %ENV at all. This is
I recently installed Fink to see if it had pdffonts. This conversation has
scared me; I have uninstalled Fink. I certainly don't want to start looking for
Perl modules in /sw.
Now I see no PERL5LIB in %ENV. I guess Perl is looking in
/System/Library/Perl/5.10.0
/Library/Perl/5.10.0
At 16:14 +0100 09/06/2011, Marek Stepanek wrote:
Probably I will leave the apple Perl it as it is, and make a new
install of perl-5.14.0 under /usr/local
That is what I do, so that the two installations are independent. I
configure simply like this:
cd downloaded_directory
./Configure -de
Good morning,
On 9/06/11 at 4:40 PM +0100, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
One thing to remember, of course, is that to add modules with
cpan to 5.14.0 so configured, rather than to Apple's
installation, you need to
cd /usr/local/bin; sudo ./cpan
I haven't followed all of this thread
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Marek Stepanek
marekstepa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Thank you Sherm!
This is a step in the right direction. But my cpanplus Perl is still broken,
with messages like:
Unable to create a new distribution object for 'Archive::Tar', although I
have no /sw in the
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Vic Norton v...@norton.name wrote:
I recently installed Fink to see if it had pdffonts. This conversation has
scared me; I have uninstalled Fink. I certainly don't want to start looking
for Perl modules in /sw.
Fear is the mind-killer. :-)
Understanding what
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au wrote:
Good morning,
I haven't followed all of this thread (it was digressing there for a while).
Would perlbrew be a solution for the OP. I've only been using it a short
while but it makes installing and using a custom
I haven't followed all of this thread (it was digressing there for a while).
Would perlbrew be a solution for the OP. I've only been using it a short
while but it makes installing and using a custom perl very simple.
I installed the preconfigured version from active state recently and was
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 13:22, Sherm Pendley sherm.pend...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au
wrote:
Good morning,
I haven't followed all of this thread (it was digressing there for a while).
Would perlbrew be a solution for the OP. I've
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Marek Stepanek
marekstepa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
I have a new laptop.
Congrats! I have a new iMac, so I know the feeling. :-)
1) The complier 'gcc-4.2' is not in your PATH. Add it
to the PATH and try again. OR
2) The compiler isn't
At 16:02 +0200 08/06/2011, Marek Stepanek wrote:
...So, gcc seems to be al right. Is it possible, that the migration
assistant has mixed up, 32bit compiled modules with 64bit? Or is
there a confusion with the Perl of Fink? Here my Perl:
Built under darwin
Compiled at Jan 26 2010
On 08.06.2011 17:31, John Delacour wrote:
At 16:02 +0200 08/06/2011, Marek Stepanek wrote:
...So, gcc seems to be al right. Is it possible, that the migration
assistant has mixed up, 32bit compiled modules with 64bit? Or is there
a confusion with the Perl of Fink? Here my Perl:
Built under
On 08.06.2011 18:03, Melton Low wrote:
xCode 4 should have been included with your new Mac. Check in the
Optional Application install disc.
Mel
Not here in Germany :-( In old times there was XCode on the optional
installer DVD. Now there are only toys: iDVD, Sound Jingles, iPhoto
...
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:31 AM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
I think you're going to have trouble until you get rid of everything Fink
has installed and everything it's changed in /usr/bin.
Fink neither changes nor installs anything in /usr/anything. It's all under /sw.
sherm--
--
At 17:55 +0200 08/06/2011, Marek Stepanek wrote:
gcc-4.2 was installed with the latest XCode 4.0.2 Is Fink installing
into /usr/bin ? Or is it a misunderstanding?
I have both gcc-4.0 and gcc-4.2 in /usr/bin but gcc points to
gcc-4.0. I have Xcode version 3.2.6 and I see in Get Info that
At 18:16 +0200 08/06/2011, Marek Stepanek wrote:
On 08.06.2011 18:03, Melton Low wrote:
xCode 4 should have been included with your new Mac. Check in the
Optional Application install disc.
XCode 4 is only for bleeding-edge developers.
Not here in Germany :-( In old times there was XCode
xCode 4 should have been included with your new Mac. Check in the Optional
Application install disc.
Mel
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Marek Stepanek marekstepa...@yahoo.co.ukwrote:
On 08.06.2011 17:31, John Delacour wrote:
At 16:02 +0200 08/06/2011, Marek Stepanek wrote:
...So, gcc
I had a similar problem with my new MacBook Pro but I haven't had the time
to look into it further.
I use MacPort and I ended up deleting everything from MacPort before
re-installing everything.
As for deleting Perl from /usr/bin that is a VERY BAD IDEA. That came as
part of the Apple OS so
On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:33 AM, John Delacour wrote:
At 18:16 +0200 08/06/2011, Marek Stepanek wrote:
On 08.06.2011 18:03, Melton Low wrote:
xCode 4 should have been included with your new Mac. Check in the
Optional Application install disc.
XCode 4 is only for bleeding-edge developers.
At 10:54 -0700 08/06/2011, rd ackerman wrote:
On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:33 AM, John Delacour wrote:
If it's not on the disk you can get it free from
http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/mac/index.action provided you
are a member -- and this grade of membership is free.
xcode4 is only
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 1:16 PM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
I have been thinking so all day after watching the announcement of iCloud, a
complete non-happening designed, like everything Apple, for shop-happy
groupees. It is free, up to a point, once you have bought your latest
Mac,
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Melton Low softw.d...@gmail.com wrote:
I use MacPort and I ended up deleting everything from MacPort before
re-installing everything.
A pointless exercise - Like Fink, MacPorts doesn't touch /usr.
Everything relevant to MacPorts is found under /opt/local.
At 15:18 -0400 08/06/2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Melton Low softw.d...@gmail.com wrote:
I use MacPort and I ended up deleting everything from MacPort before
re-installing everything.
A pointless exercise - Like Fink, MacPorts doesn't touch /usr.
Everything
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:40 PM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
At 15:18 -0400 08/06/2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Melton Low softw.d...@gmail.com wrote:
I use MacPort and I ended up deleting everything from MacPort before
re-installing everything.
A
At 16:17 -0400 08/06/2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
No. I'm saying that there are *many* ways to influence @INC without
bothering any files under /usr.
PERL5LIB, for one.
I'm sure that's very clear to everyone who already knows what you are
talking about. Are you saying that by editing
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 5:20 PM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote:
At 16:17 -0400 08/06/2011, Sherm Pendley wrote:
PERL5LIB, for one.
I'm sure that's very clear to everyone who already knows what you are
talking about. Are you saying that by editing ~/.bashrc or some such file
one could
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Marek Stepanek
marekstepa...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
offtopicMy new laptop was a not really cheap: 2600 Euros
Ouch! At the current rate, that translates to roughly $3800 USD -
$1400 more than the highest-price MacBook Pro in the US store. I
wonder, how much of that
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