Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
one. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in on this, but I just find the whole layout

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Kevin Chao
the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so you're not the only one. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility Hi! I'm probably not enough

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Kevin Chao
you're not the only one. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in on this, but I just find

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Missy Hoppe
this a bit further, I would really appreciate it. Missy -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:35 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility Re

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Miller
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility OK. This makes no sense to me. So I'd have to pay for skype to get it to start up

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility OK. This makes no sense to me. So I'd have to pay for skype to get it to start up in a layout that actually makes sense? How much would that cost? I hate that html thing, and I think it's ridiculous that I can't have a different layout

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Miller
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:04 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility What does one mean pay, Skype is a free app. Sent from my iPhone On 15 Dec 2011, at 02:09 PM, Daniel Miller

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Chris Blouch
I wonder what impact the new FCC notice of proposed rule making will have for accessibility in communications apps. Will any email or chat app have to be accessibly implemented on at least one platform? So if they make Skype work with Jaws on Windows does that mean they don't have to do

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
if that were to be the case, that in itself is product exclusion and discrimination to users relying on the mac. lew On 15 Dec 2011, at 17:07, Chris Blouch wrote: I wonder what impact the new FCC notice of proposed rule making will have for accessibility in communications apps. Will any

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Miller
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:09 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility if that were to be the case, that in itself is product exclusion and discrimination

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:09 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility if that were to be the case, that in itself is product exclusion and discrimination to users relying on the mac

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Kevin Chao
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility if that were to be the case, that in itself is product exclusion and discrimination to users relying on the mac. lew On 15 Dec 2011, at 17:07, Chris Blouch wrote: I wonder what impact the new FCC notice of proposed rule making will have

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Chris Blouch
But what is the other extreme? Does a vendor need to support any platform they have an app for? What if they take the Adobe approach and support the IAccessible2 API which doesn't exit on Mac? Adobe could claim safe harbor because they did implement accessibility and it's Apple's lack of

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Krister Ekstrom
. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:04 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility What does one mean pay, Skype is a free app

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
A simple solution is this and it's something easy to manage. Where an application developer creates an application from scratch as an example and intends to write for multiple OS architectures, Windows, Mac, Linux, etc, The developer in most cases has 2 options. Either a universal custom

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Chris Blouch
Is there such a cross-platform compiler system that supports accessibility? Most Mac developers I know of use XCode and so I'm not sure how this could be used with a common codebase. I know one developer who was using MonoTouch to make iOS and android apps and the iOS versions were pretty much

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
not to my knowledge. to be completely honest, my view on this is for a developer to design the program elements in such a way they can be shifted to both mac and windows but using each OS independent programming languages and their own compilers. thus allowing each OS to create accessibility

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Kevin Chao
FYI: Skype does have blind VoiceOver beta testers, I was  officially added as one of them a few days ago, I am plugged into system, betas, etc. No, I cannot and will not comment on future betas, things that may be fixed, broken, etc. However, please post any/all issues you've experienced, would

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Ricardo Walker
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:09 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility if that were to be the case, that in itself is product exclusion and discrimination to users relying on the mac. lew

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Missy Hoppe
. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility Hi, I think this is a bad example. I don't imagine the demand

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:55 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility Hi, I think this is a bad example. I don't imagine the demand for accessibility by the blind is very high in regards to gaming consoles. I

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Miller
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility exactly. trying to make an extremely GUI complex game accessible is too risky. OK add a screen

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi Kevin, I just wanted to note, and I'm quite sure you already know, that the chat tab is completely broken in Skype for IOS. All it does is read the dates of the chats. I'm going to try to downgrade from the latest update. Friendly, Chris -- I'll believe corporations are people

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility exactly. trying to make an extremely GUI complex game accessible is too risky. OK add a screen reader protocol, then the millions of lines of code created to support

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Chris Snyder
]On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility exactly. trying to make an extremely GUI complex game accessible is too risky. OK add a screen reader protocol, then the millions of lines of code

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Daniel Miller
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Snyder Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:13 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility Daniel, It's because they don't want to step on the toes of Freedom Scientific, GW Micro

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Doug Lee
@googlegroups.com[4][mailto:macvisionaries@googl egroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:55 PM To: [5]macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility Hi, I think this is a bad example. I don't imagine the demand

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Eugenia Firth
the consoles menus. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility exactly. trying to make an extremely GUI

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Mr. L. Alexander
: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility exactly. trying to make an extremely GUI complex game accessible is too risky. OK add a screen reader protocol, then the millions of lines of code created to support it, then create

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Actually, going back to not seeing contacts when Skype starts, my focus always goes to the contact list. Maybe it's because I'm using Skype 5.3 or because when I turn off my computer, I never sign out or quit Skype. Also, I have it startup when I turn on the Mac. Shawn -- You received this

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-15 Thread Ricardo Walker
with speech for navigation around the consoles menus. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility exactly

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello Kevin. Thank you for sharing your post with us. The first thing I'd like to see on the Skype accessibility front for IOS and OS10 is the consistency of layout so that both interfaces look the same in terms of using Boice Over. Images get replaced with buttons when using Skype on the IOS

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kevin Chao
Does the keyboard shortcut for switching conversations in 5.x Option+Cmd+Left/Right help? Is this an acceptable and workable solution to the issue with switching among various chats quickly? It's a lot faster and more effective than going to sources, scrolling, and back to HTML content. Kevin On

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kevin Chao
Hi Kawal, Please see response inline: On 12/14/11, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Kevin. Thank you for sharing your post with us. You're veyr welcome. The first thing I'd like to see on the Skype accessibility front for IOS and OS10 is the consistency of layout so that both

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi Kevin. If you go to the Skype app on your I phone and you have the latest version installed, Go to the dial pad and try and call a contact in your address book. You can't as there is an image. I am saying that there are buttons on the IOS devices labeled as images. No images on the

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Krister Ekstrom
In my opinion there is nothing that needs fixing in terms of accessibility in the MacOs skype client, however i have a question for the skype team: If i want to add someone to a conference i'm in, and that someone is calling that is i don't intend to call them, i intend to bring a caller in,

RE: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Missy Hoppe
Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in on this, but I just find the whole layout very confusing. For example, when I open skype now, it always goes to this html thing. It seems that it used to open on a list of my contacts, and that said list didn't have those annoying

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Matt Dierckens
] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix the contacts list so that its not in alphabetic order, and that you can go to a contact by first letter navigation

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
it always starts on this html thing now. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Jessica
I had the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so you're not the only one. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility Hi! I'm probably

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey Kevin, at least for me the things I'd like to see for Skype on the Mac is IM messages reading automatically. I know that there's been several on this list who have asked that and got the answer that it doesn't at this time so that's one of the things. Also, in earlier versions, I liked

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kevin Chao
Dierckens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix the contacts list so that its not in alphabetic order, and that you can go to a contact by first letter navigation. If this is possible, awesome

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kevin Chao
stevies...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so you're not the only one. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Red.Falcon
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix the contacts list so that its not in alphabetic order

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Francisco Salvador Crespo
for my little brain, and I don't understand why it always starts on this html thing now. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in on this, but I just find the whole layout very confusing. For example, when I open skype now

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Kevin Chao
. - Original Message - From: Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in on this, but I just find the whole layout very confusing

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Red.Falcon
Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix the contacts list so that its not in alphabetic order, and that you can go to a contact by first letter navigation. If this is possible, awesome. Matt Sent from my macbook pro On 2011-12-14, at 8:30 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: Hi

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Francisco Salvador Crespo
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix the contacts list so that its not in alphabetic order, and that you can go to a contact by first letter navigation. If this is possible, awesome. Matt Sent from my macbook pro On 2011-12-14, at 8:30 AM, Missy Hoppe

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Red.Falcon
Dierckens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix the contacts list so that its not in alphabetic order, and that you can go to a contact by first letter navigation. If this is possible, awesome

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-14 Thread Ray Foret Jr
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dierckens Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 8:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility I wish that they could fix the contacts list so that its not in alphabetic order

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-13 Thread Brandon Misch
first i would like an easier way to start conference calls like 2.7 or 2.8 had and ways to have multiple windows like those versions without having to go back to those versions. On Dec 14, 2011, at 12:00 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: I’m in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS

Re: Skype Accessibility

2011-12-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
For my part, I should like that, when a call waiting call comes in, the user has the option of either taking the call or adding it to the existing call. That aint possible with the current version. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype