Re: activities in vo utility

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

You should only need to interact when there is a table, a scroll area or some 
other element that requires you to gain more detail.  If you use VO-navigation, 
that is, VO-right/left, you should never miss any elements within the VO 
Utility.  To verify what you’ve set your specific activity to do, when in the 
Activities panel of VO Utility,, select the activity, then press the “Set” 
button for the item you’ve checked.  It would be the “Set” button just one 
VO-right after the checked box for the changed settings.

HTH.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Mar 14, 2022, at 19:51, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> looks like I may already have set up an activity to deal with the vo cursor 
> and mouse cursor situation. I want to check to see if it's doing what I want 
> it to. is there a way to do that or do I need to delete it and start over 
> again?
> 
> there's something I don't understand very well about the vo utility. I have 
> trouble navigating around in there. I don't seem to know when to interact or 
> stop interacting, using vo plus arrow keys or just arrow keys click on 
> something etc. etc.
> 
> regarding the activity I've created, I can see that it has to do with 
> navigation but I can't tell how the cursors are set.
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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activities in vo utility

[Lorie McCloud]

looks like I may already have set up an activity to deal with the vo cursor and 
mouse cursor situation. I want to check to see if it's doing what I want it to. 
is there a way to do that or do I need to delete it and start over again?

there's something I don't understand very well about the vo utility. I have 
trouble navigating around in there. I don't seem to know when to interact or 
stop interacting, using vo plus arrow keys or just arrow keys click on 
something etc. etc.

regarding the activity I've created, I can see that it has to do with 
navigation but I can't tell how the cursors are set.

thanks.
Lorie

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Re: activities

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When in the VO Utility in the Activities category, select the Activity from the 
table.  Navigate to the Apps & websites pop-up menu and VO-space on it.  
Navigate down to the Web-sites item and press return.  This will bring up the 
list of sites connected to this activity.  In the table, select the site you 
wish to remove, then stop interacting with the table and press the "remove" 
button.  Once it's the way you want it, close the dialog.

HTH.

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Jan 28, 2020, at 14:20, Lorie McCloud  wrote:

awhile ago I set up an activity to have the mouse ignore the vo cursor for 
certain websites. very helpful. anyway, I inadvertently have a couple of sites 
listed twice. is there a way to delete them without erasing the whole activity 
and starting over?

thanks.
Lorie

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activities

[Lorie McCloud]

awhile ago I set up an activity to have the mouse ignore the vo cursor for 
certain websites. very helpful. anyway, I inadvertently have a couple of sites 
listed twice. is there a way to delete them without erasing the whole activity 
and starting over?

thanks.
Lorie

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Creating vo Activities

[Matt Turner]

Hi, is there a way to have quick nav turn on when I use Safari, and turn off 
when I exit?
Also, anyone else seeing busy when typing a message in Mac mail?
Seeing it while typing this.

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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Michael Busboom]

Thank you very much, Tim.  After reading some of the traffic on the list, I 
checked in the App Store here (yes, I am in Austria) and found ten different 
apps with the name of my provider in the title, so going the route of a 
provider’s own app might just be the best approach.  I’ll let you know what 
happens.

Thanks again,

Mike


> On 08.03.2018, at 17:46, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If I recall correctly, you're in Austria or somewhere across the pond :).  As 
> suggested, probably your carrier is your best option.  Most carriers either 
> have an app, or at least web-site account access.  Many also have 
> notification options that are available for when you get close to various 
> limits.  Some even have restrictors that will actually not allow you to go 
> over.  That is, when you reach your limit, no more data is allowed etc.  I've 
> seen that for data use for sure, but would need to investigate further for 
> air time usage.  That being said, it's most carriers,, you'll need to check 
> with your new one.  Other than that, I'll do a bit of investigation and see 
> if I can find some third party app as well.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 8, 2018, at 09:39, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hi. Some of this might be in settings, but not everything I’m looking for. 
> Since I live outside the States,  Verizon isn’t an option.
> 
> Take care and thank you.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 08.03.2018, at 17:28, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>> Those starred numbers are in settings, or were. I didn't locate them in 
>> either Cellular or Phone,
>> 
>> Verizon does have an app which provides access to everything including data 
>> usage.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>> On 3/8/2018 5:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>>> Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
>>> Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, 
>>> that I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area 
>>> of settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service 
>>> numbers. Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than 
>>> what your phone believes.
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Jonathan Cohn
 On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom > wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has 
 a far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have 
 fewer minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.
 
 I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have 
 used and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the 
 amount of data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s 
 settings, but I don’t believe that it resets itself automatically at the 
 onset of a new billing period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do 
 what I am looking for, i.e. keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, 
 the number of messages sent and the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, 
 we don’t pay anything for incoming calls or text messages received.
 
 My thanks to all of you,
 
 Mike
 
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RE: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Simon Fogarty]

Or a number in yor contacts that connect to a service like this.


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Subject: Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

Hi,

If I recall correctly, you're in Austria or somewhere across the pond :).  As 
suggested, probably your carrier is your best option.  Most carriers either 
have an app, or at least web-site account access.  Many also have notification 
options that are available for when you get close to various limits.  Some even 
have restrictors that will actually not allow you to go over.  That is, when 
you reach your limit, no more data is allowed etc.  I've seen that for data use 
for sure, but would need to investigate further for air time usage.  That being 
said, it's most carriers,, you'll need to check with your new one.  Other than 
that, I'll do a bit of investigation and see if I can find some third party app 
as well.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 8, 2018, at 09:39, Michael Busboom <mbusb...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi. Some of this might be in settings, but not everything I’m looking for. 
Since I live outside the States,  Verizon isn’t an option.

Take care and thank you.

Mike




> On 08.03.2018, at 17:28, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>  Those starred numbers are in settings, or were. I didn't locate them 
> in either Cellular or Phone,
> 
>  Verizon does have an app which provides access to everything including data 
> usage.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
> true?
> 
> On 3/8/2018 5:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
>> Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, 
>> that I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area of 
>> settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service 
>> numbers. Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than 
>> what your phone believes.
>> Best wishes,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom <mbusb...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:mbusb...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a 
>>> far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have 
>>> fewer minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.
>>> 
>>> I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have 
>>> used and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the 
>>> amount of data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s 
>>> settings, but I don’t believe that it resets itself automatically at the 
>>> onset of a new billing period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do 
>>> what I am looking for, i.e. keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, 
>>> the number of messages sent and the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, 
>>> we don’t pay anything for incoming calls or text messages received.
>>> 
>>> My thanks to all of you,
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
My phone provider has an app that keeps track of that.
/A

> 8 mars 2018 kl. 14:37 skrev Jonathan Cohn :
> 
> Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
> Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, 
> that I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area of 
> settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service numbers. 
> Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than what your 
> phone believes.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a 
>> far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have 
>> fewer minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.
>> 
>> I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have 
>> used and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the 
>> amount of data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s settings, 
>> but I don’t believe that it resets itself automatically at the onset of a 
>> new billing period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do what I am 
>> looking for, i.e. keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, the number of 
>> messages sent and the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, we don’t pay 
>> anything for incoming calls or text messages received.
>> 
>> My thanks to all of you,
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[E.T.]

   No but an option would be to search the app store and see if your 
carrier offers an app.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/8/2018 8:39 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

Hi. Some of this might be in settings, but not everything I’m looking for. 
Since I live outside the States,  Verizon isn’t an option.

Take care and thank you.

Mike





On 08.03.2018, at 17:28, E.T.  wrote:

   Those starred numbers are in settings, or were. I didn't locate them in 
either Cellular or Phone,

   Verizon does have an app which provides access to everything including data 
usage.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/8/2018 5:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, that 
I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area of 
settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service numbers. 
Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than what your 
phone believes.
Best wishes,
Jonathan Cohn

On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom > wrote:

Hello everyone,

Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a far 
more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have fewer 
minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.

I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have used 
and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the amount of 
data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s settings, but I don’t 
believe that it resets itself automatically at the onset of a new billing 
period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do what I am looking for, i.e. 
keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, the number of messages sent and 
the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, we don’t pay anything for incoming 
calls or text messages received.

My thanks to all of you,

Mike

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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

If I recall correctly, you're in Austria or somewhere across the pond :).  As 
suggested, probably your carrier is your best option.  Most carriers either 
have an app, or at least web-site account access.  Many also have notification 
options that are available for when you get close to various limits.  Some even 
have restrictors that will actually not allow you to go over.  That is, when 
you reach your limit, no more data is allowed etc.  I've seen that for data use 
for sure, but would need to investigate further for air time usage.  That being 
said, it's most carriers,, you'll need to check with your new one.  Other than 
that, I'll do a bit of investigation and see if I can find some third party app 
as well.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 8, 2018, at 09:39, Michael Busboom  wrote:

Hi. Some of this might be in settings, but not everything I’m looking for. 
Since I live outside the States,  Verizon isn’t an option.

Take care and thank you.

Mike




> On 08.03.2018, at 17:28, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>  Those starred numbers are in settings, or were. I didn't locate them in 
> either Cellular or Phone,
> 
>  Verizon does have an app which provides access to everything including data 
> usage.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/8/2018 5:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
>> Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, 
>> that I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area of 
>> settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service 
>> numbers. Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than 
>> what your phone believes.
>> Best wishes,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a 
>>> far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have 
>>> fewer minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.
>>> 
>>> I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have 
>>> used and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the 
>>> amount of data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s 
>>> settings, but I don’t believe that it resets itself automatically at the 
>>> onset of a new billing period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do 
>>> what I am looking for, i.e. keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, 
>>> the number of messages sent and the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, 
>>> we don’t pay anything for incoming calls or text messages received.
>>> 
>>> My thanks to all of you,
>>> 
>>> Mike
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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Michael Busboom]

Hi. Some of this might be in settings, but not everything I’m looking for. 
Since I live outside the States,  Verizon isn’t an option.

Take care and thank you.

Mike




> On 08.03.2018, at 17:28, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   Those starred numbers are in settings, or were. I didn't locate them in 
> either Cellular or Phone,
> 
>   Verizon does have an app which provides access to everything including data 
> usage.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/8/2018 5:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
>> Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
>> Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, 
>> that I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area of 
>> settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service 
>> numbers. Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than 
>> what your phone believes.
>> Best wishes,
>> Jonathan Cohn
>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a 
>>> far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have 
>>> fewer minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.
>>> 
>>> I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have 
>>> used and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the 
>>> amount of data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s 
>>> settings, but I don’t believe that it resets itself automatically at the 
>>> onset of a new billing period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do 
>>> what I am looking for, i.e. keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, 
>>> the number of messages sent and the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, 
>>> we don’t pay anything for incoming calls or text messages received.
>>> 
>>> My thanks to all of you,
>>> 
>>> Mike
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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[E.T.]

   Those starred numbers are in settings, or were. I didn't locate them 
in either Cellular or Phone,


   Verizon does have an app which provides access to everything 
including data usage.


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in the past. What if it were true?

On 3/8/2018 5:37 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. 
For Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so 
long, that I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the 
Phone area of settings there is a place where the carrier can put 
customer service numbers. Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are 
more relevant than what your phone believes.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom > wrote:


Hello everyone,

Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider 
has a far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that 
I have fewer minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay 
each month.


I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I 
have used and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not 
mistaken, the amount of data received and sent can be ascertained in 
the phone’s settings, but I don’t believe that it resets itself 
automatically at the onset of a new billing period.  Does anyone know 
of an app that would do what I am looking for, i.e. keep track of the 
number of minutes  phoned, the number of messages sent and the amount 
of data used?  Here in Europe, we don’t pay anything for incoming 
calls or text messages received.


My thanks to all of you,

Mike

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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Michael Busboom]

Thanks for the tip,  Jonathan. I will look at this provider’s website or see if 
they have an app that would allow me to keep track of this info from billing 
period to billing period.  Still, one would think that something else would be 
available.  Nevertheless, I like your suggestion, and I’ll check it out.

Best regards,

Mike



> On 08.03.2018, at 14:37, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
> Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, 
> that I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area of 
> settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service numbers. 
> Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than what your 
> phone believes.
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a 
>> far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have 
>> fewer minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.
>> 
>> I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have 
>> used and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the 
>> amount of data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s settings, 
>> but I don’t believe that it resets itself automatically at the onset of a 
>> new billing period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do what I am 
>> looking for, i.e. keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, the number of 
>> messages sent and the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, we don’t pay 
>> anything for incoming calls or text messages received.
>> 
>> My thanks to all of you,
>> 
>> Mike
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Re: Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Jonathan Cohn]

Some phone companies have a number to dial to check this information. For 
Sprint it is either *2 or *4. I have been unlimited with them for so long, that 
I can't remember which. For that matter, I believe in the Phone area of 
settings there is a place where the carrier can put customer service numbers. 
Certainly any numbers at the carrier side are more relevant than what your 
phone believes.

Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Mar 8, 2018, at 5:53 AM, Michael Busboom  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a 
> far more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have fewer 
> minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.
> 
> I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have used 
> and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the amount of 
> data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s settings, but I 
> don’t believe that it resets itself automatically at the onset of a new 
> billing period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do what I am looking 
> for, i.e. keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, the number of messages 
> sent and the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, we don’t pay anything for 
> incoming calls or text messages received.
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> My thanks to all of you,
> 
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Looking for an accessible app that keeps track of phone activities

[Michael Busboom]

Hello everyone,

Recently, I changed phone service providers, because the new provider has a far 
more attractive LTE data package plan.  The downside is that I have fewer 
minutes and fewer text messages for the flat rate I pay each month.

I am looking for an app that keeps track of the number of minutes I have used 
and how many text messages I have sent.  If I am not mistaken, the amount of 
data received and sent can be ascertained in the phone’s settings, but I don’t 
believe that it resets itself automatically at the onset of a new billing 
period.  Does anyone know of an app that would do what I am looking for, i.e. 
keep track of the number of minutes  phoned, the number of messages sent and 
the amount of data used?  Here in Europe, we don’t pay anything for incoming 
calls or text messages received.

My thanks to all of you,

Mike

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Re: Voiceover Utility Activities

[E.T.]

   Thanks Alex. I am sure I can find something to make an activity for.

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On 12/1/2016 12:20 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

Activities let you customize verbosity, speech, commanders, and many other VO 
options based on the current application. You can also hit vo-x to select an 
activity at any time. For instance, some people set things so that an activity 
will enable Quick Nav whenever Safari or Chrome is open, or to raise the 
punctuation level and change formatting announcements when in Pages. I've 
always found activities to make the Mac very slow, but maybe it'll be better on 
this new one. I know of other people who have never had a problem, but of still 
others who run into the same problems I do.

On Dec 1, 2016, at 14:44, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

  Am reminded that I should explore this feature. What are some of the things 
where this might be useful? I realize its a rather generic query but its a 
starting point.

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Re: Voiceover Utility Activities

[Alex Hall]

Activities let you customize verbosity, speech, commanders, and many other VO 
options based on the current application. You can also hit vo-x to select an 
activity at any time. For instance, some people set things so that an activity 
will enable Quick Nav whenever Safari or Chrome is open, or to raise the 
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always found activities to make the Mac very slow, but maybe it'll be better on 
this new one. I know of other people who have never had a problem, but of still 
others who run into the same problems I do.
> On Dec 1, 2016, at 14:44, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Am reminded that I should explore this feature. What are some of the things 
> where this might be useful? I realize its a rather generic query but its a 
> starting point.
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Voiceover Utility Activities

[E.T.]

   Am reminded that I should explore this feature. What are some of the 
things where this might be useful? I realize its a rather generic query 
but its a starting point.


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Re: Activities

[Scott Granados]

Kawal, he probably picked that behavior up in prison so you’ll have to give him 
some slack.

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 6:00 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I'll just say, Chris it's not about winning anything, it's about treating 
> each other respectfully and a little professionalism.  We're all on this list 
> to get help, to learn and to swap ideas and a little light banter at times.  
> If you have nothing good to say just move on to the next topic or make your 
> points calmly and respectfully.
> 
> No more than that is required Sir.
>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 22:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Point taken. I think you're misunderstanding the tone of my message, but I'm 
>> so freaking exhausted right now, I'm not in the mood on nor off list to 
>> argue, so therefore, I'm just gonna surrender and let you win this one.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kgli...@icloud.com>
>> To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Cc: <macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: Activities
>> 
>> 
>> Chris,
>> 
>> If you don't mind me saying so, you should not react to messages as i'm 
>> afraid to say that you reacting to messages, causes drama on the list.  I 
>> know you may not like reading what is said but I think it is better for you 
>> to take these issues off list and take it up with the person privately.  I'm 
>> just saying.  If you do feel that you have a problem, just privately forward 
>> your messages to Mark or Cara who will deal with things for you and hence 
>> there will be no drama on list.  I'm not attacking you but just saying that 
>> no one wants to read your messages which sound sulky and bad tempered and 
>> frustrated.  You might not like what I read but I am just saying, keep calm 
>> and do not get in to a rage as it solves nothing for you or for other 
>> members on this list.
>> 
>> If you are going to attack me, before you do so, take a deep breath, calm 
>> down and please do report me to Mark and I'm sure he will get in touch with 
>> me and then we can sort it out privately.  I'll copy Mark in to this anyway 
>> so you know he knows what I have said.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 21:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me 
>>> for this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who 
>>> cares. Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but are 
>>> you rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the 
>>> application? In the activities category of the VO Utility, after all is 
>>> set, it'll say, use activity for, and you have to actually pick the .app 
>>> file of the application, like, mail.app, to attach that particular activity 
>>> to.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, the activity won't do anything. It'll just kind a be there 
>>> attached to null.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>> 
>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>> To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Activities
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my 
>>> girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time 
>>> for Christmas and try to get back to you.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
>>>> doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my 
>>>> mail to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as 
>>>> Alex is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is 
>>>> a brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the s

Re: Activities

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Point taken.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kgli...@icloud.com>

To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Activities


I'll just say, Chris it's not about winning anything, it's about treating 
each other respectfully and a little professionalism.  We're all on this 
list to get help, to learn and to swap ideas and a little light banter at 
times.  If you have nothing good to say just move on to the next topic or 
make your points calmly and respectfully.


No more than that is required Sir.
On 29 Oct 2016, at 22:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Point taken. I think you're misunderstanding the tone of my message, but 
I'm so freaking exhausted right now, I'm not in the mood on nor off list 
to argue, so therefore, I'm just gonna surrender and let you win this one.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kgli...@icloud.com>
To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Cc: <macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Activities


Chris,

If you don't mind me saying so, you should not react to messages as i'm 
afraid to say that you reacting to messages, causes drama on the list.  I 
know you may not like reading what is said but I think it is better for 
you to take these issues off list and take it up with the person 
privately.  I'm just saying.  If you do feel that you have a problem, just 
privately forward your messages to Mark or Cara who will deal with things 
for you and hence there will be no drama on list.  I'm not attacking you 
but just saying that no one wants to read your messages which sound sulky 
and bad tempered and frustrated.  You might not like what I read but I am 
just saying, keep calm and do not get in to a rage as it solves nothing 
for you or for other members on this list.


If you are going to attack me, before you do so, take a deep breath, calm 
down and please do report me to Mark and I'm sure he will get in touch 
with me and then we can sort it out privately.  I'll copy Mark in to this 
anyway so you know he knows what I have said.


Thanks.

Kawal.
On 29 Oct 2016, at 21:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me 
for this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who 
cares. Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but 
are you rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the 
application? In the activities category of the VO Utility, after all is 
set, it'll say, use activity for, and you have to actually pick the .app 
file of the application, like, mail.app, to attach that particular 
activity to.


Otherwise, the activity won't do anything. It'll just kind a be there 
attached to null.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
<challswor...@icloud.com>

To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Activities


You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on 
my girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in 
time for Christmas and try to get back to you.




On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my 
mail to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work 
as Alex is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering 
this is a brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are 
using. Appreciate it.
On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
<challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:


1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.

2. Click add.

3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the 
disclosure triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to 
change, then click set next to that, such as voices.


4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.

5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
application, website or other if you can't see the application. This 
may be what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't 
work. So went back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as 
expected.


Hope this helps.



On 29 Oct 2016, at 

Re: Activities

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

I'll just say, Chris it's not about winning anything, it's about treating each 
other respectfully and a little professionalism.  We're all on this list to get 
help, to learn and to swap ideas and a little light banter at times.  If you 
have nothing good to say just move on to the next topic or make your points 
calmly and respectfully.

No more than that is required Sir.
> On 29 Oct 2016, at 22:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Point taken. I think you're misunderstanding the tone of my message, but I'm 
> so freaking exhausted right now, I'm not in the mood on nor off list to 
> argue, so therefore, I'm just gonna surrender and let you win this one.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> i...@gillandmarketing.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kgli...@icloud.com>
> To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: <macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:59 PM
> Subject: Re: Activities
> 
> 
> Chris,
> 
> If you don't mind me saying so, you should not react to messages as i'm 
> afraid to say that you reacting to messages, causes drama on the list.  I 
> know you may not like reading what is said but I think it is better for you 
> to take these issues off list and take it up with the person privately.  I'm 
> just saying.  If you do feel that you have a problem, just privately forward 
> your messages to Mark or Cara who will deal with things for you and hence 
> there will be no drama on list.  I'm not attacking you but just saying that 
> no one wants to read your messages which sound sulky and bad tempered and 
> frustrated.  You might not like what I read but I am just saying, keep calm 
> and do not get in to a rage as it solves nothing for you or for other members 
> on this list.
> 
> If you are going to attack me, before you do so, take a deep breath, calm 
> down and please do report me to Mark and I'm sure he will get in touch with 
> me and then we can sort it out privately.  I'll copy Mark in to this anyway 
> so you know he knows what I have said.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Kawal.
>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 21:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me 
>> for this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who 
>> cares. Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but are 
>> you rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the 
>> application? In the activities category of the VO Utility, after all is set, 
>> it'll say, use activity for, and you have to actually pick the .app file of 
>> the application, like, mail.app, to attach that particular activity to.
>> 
>> Otherwise, the activity won't do anything. It'll just kind a be there 
>> attached to null.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
>> <challswor...@icloud.com>
>> To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: Activities
>> 
>> 
>> You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my 
>> girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time for 
>> Christmas and try to get back to you.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
>>> doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my mail 
>>> to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as Alex 
>>> is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is a 
>>> brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are using. 
>>> Appreciate it.
>>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Click add.
>>>> 
>>>> 3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
>>>> triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then 
>>>> click set next to that, such a

Re: Activities

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Point taken. I think you're misunderstanding the tone of my message, but I'm 
so freaking exhausted right now, I'm not in the mood on nor off list to 
argue, so therefore, I'm just gonna surrender and let you win this one.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kgli...@icloud.com>

To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Cc: <macvisionaries+modera...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Activities


Chris,

If you don't mind me saying so, you should not react to messages as i'm 
afraid to say that you reacting to messages, causes drama on the list.  I 
know you may not like reading what is said but I think it is better for you 
to take these issues off list and take it up with the person privately.  I'm 
just saying.  If you do feel that you have a problem, just privately forward 
your messages to Mark or Cara who will deal with things for you and hence 
there will be no drama on list.  I'm not attacking you but just saying that 
no one wants to read your messages which sound sulky and bad tempered and 
frustrated.  You might not like what I read but I am just saying, keep calm 
and do not get in to a rage as it solves nothing for you or for other 
members on this list.


If you are going to attack me, before you do so, take a deep breath, calm 
down and please do report me to Mark and I'm sure he will get in touch with 
me and then we can sort it out privately.  I'll copy Mark in to this anyway 
so you know he knows what I have said.


Thanks.

Kawal.
On 29 Oct 2016, at 21:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me 
for this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who 
cares. Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but are 
you rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the 
application? In the activities category of the VO Utility, after all is 
set, it'll say, use activity for, and you have to actually pick the .app 
file of the application, like, mail.app, to attach that particular 
activity to.


Otherwise, the activity won't do anything. It'll just kind a be there 
attached to null.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
<challswor...@icloud.com>

To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Activities


You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on 
my girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in 
time for Christmas and try to get back to you.




On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my 
mail to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work 
as Alex is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering 
this is a brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are 
using. Appreciate it.
On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
<challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:


1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.

2. Click add.

3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the 
disclosure triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to 
change, then click set next to that, such as voices.


4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.

5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may 
be what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. 
So went back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.


Hope this helps.



On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the 
steps you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
<challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:


You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> 
wrote:


Hey all,

Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please 
write out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity 
set for a program. Would love to see if there is something I am 
missing as Apple cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not 
work for me. I just deleted all my activities and started new. 
Created

Re: Activities

[Kawal Gucukoglu]

Chris,

If you don't mind me saying so, you should not react to messages as i'm afraid 
to say that you reacting to messages, causes drama on the list.  I know you may 
not like reading what is said but I think it is better for you to take these 
issues off list and take it up with the person privately.  I'm just saying.  If 
you do feel that you have a problem, just privately forward your messages to 
Mark or Cara who will deal with things for you and hence there will be no drama 
on list.  I'm not attacking you but just saying that no one wants to read your 
messages which sound sulky and bad tempered and frustrated.  You might not like 
what I read but I am just saying, keep calm and do not get in to a rage as it 
solves nothing for you or for other members on this list.

If you are going to attack me, before you do so, take a deep breath, calm down 
and please do report me to Mark and I'm sure he will get in touch with me and 
then we can sort it out privately.  I'll copy Mark in to this anyway so you 
know he knows what I have said.

Thanks.

Kawal.
> On 29 Oct 2016, at 21:21, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me for 
> this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who cares. 
> Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but are you 
> rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the 
> application? In the activities category of the VO Utility, after all is set, 
> it'll say, use activity for, and you have to actually pick the .app file of 
> the application, like, mail.app, to attach that particular activity to.
> 
> Otherwise, the activity won't do anything. It'll just kind a be there 
> attached to null.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
> 
> i...@gillandmarketing.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> <challswor...@icloud.com>
> To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Activities
> 
> 
> You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my 
> girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time for 
> Christmas and try to get back to you.
> 
> 
>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
>> doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my mail 
>> to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as Alex 
>> is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is a 
>> brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are using. 
>> Appreciate it.
>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.
>>> 
>>> 2. Click add.
>>> 
>>> 3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
>>> triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then 
>>> click set next to that, such as voices.
>>> 
>>> 4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.
>>> 
>>> 5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
>>> application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may be 
>>> what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. So went 
>>> back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the steps 
>>>> you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
>>>>> shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
>>>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write 
>>>>>> out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a 
>>

Re: Activities

[Christopher-Mark Gilland]

Stupid question, and I know Scott, E.T, etc. are probably gonna attack me 
for this, so go ahead and do so. I won't see your mails anyway, so who 
cares. Anyway, I probably should a read this thread more in depth, but are 
you rememberring after creating the activity to then attach it to the 
application? In the activities category of the VO Utility, after all is set, 
it'll say, use activity for, and you have to actually pick the .app file of 
the application, like, mail.app, to attach that particular activity to.


Otherwise, the activity won't do anything. It'll just kind a be there 
attached to null.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: "christopher hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>

To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: Activities


You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my 
girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time for 
Christmas and try to get back to you.




On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my 
mail to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as 
Alex is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is 
a brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are using. 
Appreciate it.
On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
<challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:


1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.

2. Click add.

3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then 
click set next to that, such as voices.


4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.

5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may 
be what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. So 
went back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.


Hope this helps.



On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the 
steps you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
<challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:


You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.

On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:

Hey all,

Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please 
write out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity 
set for a program. Would love to see if there is something I am 
missing as Apple cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not 
work for me. I just deleted all my activities and started new. Created 
an activity for mail which used the Samantha voice and turned QuickNav 
off and it still does not work. When I pull mail up using my keyboard 
shortcut Alex is still reading my mail and QuickNav is still turned 
on. Thanks,


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Re: Activities

[Brian Fischler]

Yes it is. Now I got activities working a little and this is so weird. If I go 
from a program running a activity to another running an activity everything 
works fine, but if I go from a program like mail running an activity to safari 
running the default and back to mail running the activity Alex stays on. Very 
bizarre.
> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:51 PM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my 
> girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time for 
> Christmas and try to get back to you.
> 
> 
>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
>> doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my mail 
>> to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as Alex 
>> is still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is a 
>> brand new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are using. 
>> Appreciate it.
>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.
>>> 
>>> 2. Click add.
>>> 
>>> 3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
>>> triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then 
>>> click set next to that, such as voices.
>>> 
>>> 4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.
>>> 
>>> 5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
>>> application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may be 
>>> what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. So went 
>>> back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.
>>> 
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the steps 
>>>> you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
>>>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
>>>>> shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
>>>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write 
>>>>>> out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a 
>>>>>> program. Would love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple 
>>>>>> cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not work for me. I just 
>>>>>> deleted all my activities and started new. Created an activity for mail 
>>>>>> which used the Samantha voice and turned QuickNav off and it still does 
>>>>>> not work. When I pull mail up using my keyboard shortcut Alex is still 
>>>>>> reading my mail and QuickNav is still turned on. Thanks,
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Re: Activities

[christopher hallsworth]

You are welcome and this must be frustrating. I will have to try this on my 
girlfriend's early 2015 13 inch Macbook Pro when she receives it in time for 
Christmas and try to get back to you.


> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:36, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been 
> doing but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my mail 
> to Daniel to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as Alex is 
> still being used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is a brand 
> new iMac. Thanks again for writing out the steps you are using. Appreciate it.
>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.
>> 
>> 2. Click add.
>> 
>> 3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
>> triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then 
>> click set next to that, such as voices.
>> 
>> 4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.
>> 
>> 5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
>> application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may be 
>> what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. So went 
>> back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the steps 
>>> you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
>>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
>>>> shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
>>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write 
>>>>> out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a 
>>>>> program. Would love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple 
>>>>> cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not work for me. I just 
>>>>> deleted all my activities and started new. Created an activity for mail 
>>>>> which used the Samantha voice and turned QuickNav off and it still does 
>>>>> not work. When I pull mail up using my keyboard shortcut Alex is still 
>>>>> reading my mail and QuickNav is still turned on. Thanks,
>>>>> 
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Re: Activities

[Brian Fischler]

Hi Chris, Thanks so much. Yup those are the same exact steps I have been doing 
but activities still do not work for me. Even tried switching my mail to Daniel 
to see if it was an issue with Samantha but did not work as Alex is still being 
used when I go to mail. So strange considering this is a brand new iMac. Thanks 
again for writing out the steps you are using. Appreciate it.
> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:33 PM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> 1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.
> 
> 2. Click add.
> 
> 3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
> triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then 
> click set next to that, such as voices.
> 
> 4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.
> 
> 5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
> application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may be 
> what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. So went 
> back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> 
>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the steps 
>> you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
>>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
>>> shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
>>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> 
>>>> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write 
>>>> out the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a 
>>>> program. Would love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple 
>>>> cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not work for me. I just 
>>>> deleted all my activities and started new. Created an activity for mail 
>>>> which used the Samantha voice and turned QuickNav off and it still does 
>>>> not work. When I pull mail up using my keyboard shortcut Alex is still 
>>>> reading my mail and QuickNav is still turned on. Thanks,
>>>> 
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Re: Activities

[christopher hallsworth]

1. Open VoiceOver Utility and navigate to activities.

2. Click add.

3. If you can't see the option you are looking for, expand the disclosure 
triangle. Click the checkbox next to the option you wish to change, then click 
set next to that, such as voices.

4. Set the appropriate options, then click close.

5. In the "use this activity for" menu button, choose either a running 
application, website or other if you can't see the application. This may be 
what you were missing. I left that as is, the activity didn't work. So went 
back in, set it to Mail, and the activity worked as expected.

Hope this helps.


> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:21, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the steps 
> you did, appreciate it. Thanks,
>> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth 
>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
>> shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
>>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write out 
>>> the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a 
>>> program. Would love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple 
>>> cannot seem to figure it out and they still do not work for me. I just 
>>> deleted all my activities and started new. Created an activity for mail 
>>> which used the Samantha voice and turned QuickNav off and it still does not 
>>> work. When I pull mail up using my keyboard shortcut Alex is still reading 
>>> my mail and QuickNav is still turned on. Thanks,
>>> 
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Re: Activities

[Brian Fischler]

Ok if the activity is working for you would you mind writing out the steps you 
did, appreciate it. Thanks,
> On Oct 29, 2016, at 2:16 PM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, 
> shouldn't make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
>> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write out 
>> the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a program. 
>> Would love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple cannot seem to 
>> figure it out and they still do not work for me. I just deleted all my 
>> activities and started new. Created an activity for mail which used the 
>> Samantha voice and turned QuickNav off and it still does not work. When I 
>> pull mail up using my keyboard shortcut Alex is still reading my mail and 
>> QuickNav is still turned on. Thanks,
>> 
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Re: Activities

[christopher hallsworth]

You did what I exactly did, except I used Daniel instead of Samantha, shouldn't 
make a difference though, but it worked like a charm.
> On 29 Oct 2016, at 19:09, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write out 
> the steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a program. 
> Would love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple cannot seem to 
> figure it out and they still do not work for me. I just deleted all my 
> activities and started new. Created an activity for mail which used the 
> Samantha voice and turned QuickNav off and it still does not work. When I 
> pull mail up using my keyboard shortcut Alex is still reading my mail and 
> QuickNav is still turned on. Thanks,
> 
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Activities

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

Can someone you claims activities on Sierra works for them please write out the 
steps they are using to successfully have an activity set for a program. Would 
love to see if there is something I am missing as Apple cannot seem to figure 
it out and they still do not work for me. I just deleted all my activities and 
started new. Created an activity for mail which used the Samantha voice and 
turned QuickNav off and it still does not work. When I pull mail up using my 
keyboard shortcut Alex is still reading my mail and QuickNav is still turned 
on. Thanks,

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Re: Can anyone get Activities to work on Sierra

[christopher hallsworth]

Working here on my late 2011 Macbook Pro 13 running Sierra. Don’t use them 
myself, just wanted to see if it was working for others.
> On 22 Sep 2016, at 07:37, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
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> This is something I contacted Apple about several times during the beta and 
> at least on my machine they dropped the ball big time as activities do not 
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Re: Can anyone get Activities to work on Sierra

[Brian Fischler]

They may be working for you but not for me. Just hung up with Apple showing 
them and they agree they are at least broken on my machine as they are kicking 
it up to engineering. So be fortunate they are working for you.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 1:32 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
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> Activities are working.
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Re: Can anyone get Activities to work on Sierra

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Activities are working.

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Re: Can anyone get Activities to work on Sierra

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks so weird that this must be device specific as I have a computer only 4 
months old and 90% of the time activities will not work for me. Absolutely head 
scratching but good to hear they are working for some. Thanks for confirming.
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 3:15 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote:
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> Hello Brian,
> 
> Yes, Activities are working beautifully in Sierra, on my MacBook Pro Mid-2014 
> machine.
> 
> I use several activities including various voices.  For example, while my 
> primary VoiceOver voice is Alex, all notifications and the notification 
> center, use my beloved Samantha.  
> 
> To be honest, the Activities are executing faster and more smoothly than they 
> did in El Capitan.
> 
> Mark
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> This is something I contacted Apple about several times during the beta and 
> at least on my machine they dropped the ball big time as activities do not 
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> and Night Owl and I use different voices but nothing seems to work. Would 
> love to hear if activities are working for anyone. Thanks,
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RE: Can anyone get Activities to work on Sierra

[M. Taylor]

Hello Brian,

Yes, Activities are working beautifully in Sierra, on my MacBook Pro Mid-2014 
machine.

I use several activities including various voices.  For example, while my 
primary VoiceOver voice is Alex, all notifications and the notification center, 
use my beloved Samantha.  

To be honest, the Activities are executing faster and more smoothly than they 
did in El Capitan.

Mark


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Subject: Can anyone get Activities to work on Sierra

This is something I contacted Apple about several times during the beta and at 
least on my machine they dropped the ball big time as activities do not seem to 
work at all. I like QuickNav to automatically turn off when in mail and Night 
Owl and I use different voices but nothing seems to work. Would love to hear if 
activities are working for anyone. Thanks,

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Can anyone get Activities to work on Sierra

[Brian Fischler]

This is something I contacted Apple about several times during the beta and at 
least on my machine they dropped the ball big time as activities do not seem to 
work at all. I like QuickNav to automatically turn off when in mail and Night 
Owl and I use different voices but nothing seems to work. Would love to hear if 
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Re: Has Anyone Gotten Activities to work consistently in El Cap

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Depressing, isn’t it?  WWDC is just around the corner and apparently OS 
X—sorry, macOS—will be getting a revamp, so we’ll soon see how much difference 
a year of bug fixing makes.

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Re: Has Anyone Gotten Activities to work consistently in El Cap

[Brian Fischler]

Hey I am running a brand new machine running El Cap from the factory and the 
minor bugs are mind boggling. Nothing major but the amount of minor bugs is 
very troubling considering it was released 8 months ago. 
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Re: Has Anyone Gotten Activities to work consistently in El Cap

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I downgraded to Yosemite to get activities back.  They’re thoroughly broken for 
me on El Cap.  And yes, it was a clean install.

Make of that what you will. :)

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Re: Has Anyone Gotten Activities to work consistently in El Cap

[Brian Fischler]

Thanks Chris. Actually on the phone now with Apple Accessibility and yup my 
issue seems to be device specific yuck fun for me.
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> think I may even have one on this machine set up for Mainstage.  I'm using El 
> Capitan 10.11.4, and no, this isn't a beta.  It works beautifully 
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> Hey all,
> 
> I have activities set up for mail and Night Owl and they will work for five 
> minutes and then completely stop working. This is quite annoying and I 
> imagine it is a bug in El Cap. Has anyone gotten their activities to work 
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Re: Has Anyone Gotten Activities to work consistently in El Cap

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I use quite a few activities in my workflow.  Anything from within Mail, to 
ITunes, to even a few things I've set up both for Logic, and for ProTools. 
I think I may even have one on this machine set up for Mainstage.  I'm using 
El Capitan 10.11.4, and no, this isn't a beta.  It works beautifully 
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Hey all,

I have activities set up for mail and Night Owl and they will work for five 
minutes and then completely stop working. This is quite annoying and I 
imagine it is a bug in El Cap. Has anyone gotten their activities to work 
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Has Anyone Gotten Activities to work consistently in El Cap

[Brian Fischler]

Hey all,

I have activities set up for mail and Night Owl and they will work for five 
minutes and then completely stop working. This is quite annoying and I imagine 
it is a bug in El Cap. Has anyone gotten their activities to work consistently 
in El Cap and if of how. Thanks

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Re: Do Activities Not Work in El Cap

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brian,

I have to click the popup menu to see that Mail is checked.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 16 Apr 2016, at 19:10, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi ann thanks for confirming. Can you let me know in your activity for mail 
> does it say mail where in VO utility it has what program the activity is 
> assigned to or does it read apps and you have to hit the pop up button to get 
> to where mail is checked? Thanks,
>> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Brian,
>> 
>> Activities seem to be working for me in El Cap. I too have a Mail activity 
>> with low verbosity. The only annoying thing is the time it takes to switch 
>> activities.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Anne
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 18:17, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version 
>>> of El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off 
>>> and verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any 
>>> way the activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do 
>>> not like how the assign activity button reads apps and when I click it mail 
>>> does have a check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me 
>>> know if I am doing something wrong. Thanks,
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Re: Do Activities Not Work in El Cap

[Brian Fischler]

Hi ann thanks for confirming. Can you let me know in your activity for mail 
does it say mail where in VO utility it has what program the activity is 
assigned to or does it read apps and you have to hit the pop up button to get 
to where mail is checked? Thanks,
> On Apr 16, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> Activities seem to be working for me in El Cap. I too have a Mail activity 
> with low verbosity. The only annoying thing is the time it takes to switch 
> activities.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Apr 2016, at 18:17, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version 
>> of El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off 
>> and verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any 
>> way the activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do 
>> not like how the assign activity button reads apps and when I click it mail 
>> does have a check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me know 
>> if I am doing something wrong. Thanks,
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Re: Do Activities Not Work in El Cap

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Brian,

Activities seem to be working for me in El Cap. I too have a Mail activity with 
low verbosity. The only annoying thing is the time it takes to switch 
activities.

Cheers,

Anne



> On 16 Apr 2016, at 18:17, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version 
> of El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off 
> and verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any 
> way the activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do 
> not like how the assign activity button reads apps and when I click it mail 
> does have a check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me know 
> if I am doing something wrong. Thanks,
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Do Activities Not Work in El Cap

[Brian Fischler]

I have set up my activity for mail in VO Utility running the latest version of 
El Cap and it does not seem to stick as I like trackpad to be turned off and 
verbosity to be set to low so I avoid hearing disclosure triangle. Any way the 
activity seems to work for a few minutes then it stops working I do not like 
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check next to it. Any one getting activities to work let me know if I am doing 
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Activities are still an issue for me

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
When I set up an activity and associate it  with an app, it takes forever to
command tab out of that app.  Is this still a known issue?  
Thanks.
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Re: Activities are still an issue for me

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

On 20 Jan 2016, at 18:02, Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When I set up an activity and associate it  with an app, it takes forever to 
> command tab out of that app.  Is this still a known issue?  

Yes, with Nuance voices.  If you avoid those, then it works—kinda.  Sometimes, 
in that case, activities do not switch correctly, for instance if you 
Command-Tab.  At least you can use VO-X X to switch back and forth, though.

Report those bugs …

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A Question About VoiceOver Activities

[M. Taylor]

Hello Everyone,

I would like to setup a VoiceOver Activity.  My question:  

Is there a way to setup a voice specific activity for Notification Alerts
and/or the Notification Center/area?  

I would like my Notifications Alerts to use Samantha instead of Alex, for
example.

If so, I cannot find it.

All replies greatly appreciated.

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sharing activities?

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Hi all:

Now that I'm using activities more, I'm loving the value they have in 
increasing my productivity in certain things.  This got me to thinking.  It's 
easy enough for me to tell somebody how to create an activity if i find one 
particularly useful, but it would be nice if I could just give them a file and 
let them have all of the activities I use if our needs align enough for that to 
be a viable thing.

Is sharing activities even possible? Or should I just guide people through the 
steps to recreate my activities if they wish to.

Thanks.

Best,

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Re: sharing activities?

[Joe Quinn]

What are activities?

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 On Aug 26, 2014, at 11:19 AM, John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 Now that I'm using activities more, I'm loving the value they have in 
 increasing my productivity in certain things.  This got me to thinking.  It's 
 easy enough for me to tell somebody how to create an activity if i find one 
 particularly useful, but it would be nice if I could just give them a file 
 and let them have all of the activities I use if our needs align enough for 
 that to be a viable thing.
 
 Is sharing activities even possible? Or should I just guide people through 
 the steps to recreate my activities if they wish to.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Best,
 
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Re: sharing activities?

[Chris Bruinenberg]

Activities are customized settings for voiceover for a particular application. 
You can choose to have a different voice, punctuation or hotspots!

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 On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What are activities?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 11:19 AM, John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 Now that I'm using activities more, I'm loving the value they have in 
 increasing my productivity in certain things.  This got me to thinking.  
 It's easy enough for me to tell somebody how to create an activity if i find 
 one particularly useful, but it would be nice if I could just give them a 
 file and let them have all of the activities I use if our needs align enough 
 for that to be a viable thing.
 
 Is sharing activities even possible? Or should I just guide people through 
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 Thanks.
 
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Re: sharing activities?

[Joe Quinn]

is there a place in the manual that shows how to use them?

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 Activities are customized settings for voiceover for a particular 
 application. You can choose to have a different voice, punctuation or 
 hotspots!
 
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 On Aug 26, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What are activities?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 26, 2014, at 11:19 AM, John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all:
 
 Now that I'm using activities more, I'm loving the value they have in 
 increasing my productivity in certain things.  This got me to thinking.  
 It's easy enough for me to tell somebody how to create an activity if i 
 find one particularly useful, but it would be nice if I could just give 
 them a file and let them have all of the activities I use if our needs 
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 Is sharing activities even possible? Or should I just guide people through 
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 Thanks.
 
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Re: sharing activities?

[Joe Quinn]

ok,found out how to use activities and it's cool. Now, to answer John's initial 
question, I think just exporting your voiceover prefs, you'll be able to share 
your activities with others. I've not tried this, but I don't see why it 
wouldn't work!

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 Hi all:
 
 Now that I'm using activities more, I'm loving the value they have in 
 increasing my productivity in certain things.  This got me to thinking.  It's 
 easy enough for me to tell somebody how to create an activity if i find one 
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activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you are 
using activities with voiceover?

I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got several 
activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, for 
example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to speed 
things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought I'd ask..
Thanks,
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Re: activities

[isaac . hebert]

Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you are 
 using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got several 
 activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, for 
 example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to speed 
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Re: activities

[Alex Hall]

The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to cause 
slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize that is 
not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to let them 
know about the problem.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
 apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
 for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
 speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
 I'd ask..
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Re: activities

[Brian Fischler]

I have also noticed this as I have a lot of different voices for different 
apps. What I have noticed when everything is working there is only a slight 
delay when switching from say mail to safari, but for some reason every now and 
then things slow to a halt almost making the computer unusable. When this 
happens I restart my computer. Yes this is frustrating as I hate restarting but 
it seems to get everything playing nice together again.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
 activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
 cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize 
 that is not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to 
 let them know about the problem.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
 apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
 for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
 speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
 I'd ask..
 Thanks,
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Re: activities

[David Taylor]

Hi,

I have emailed Apple Accessibility about this in the past. I have noticed that 
only some Nuance voices are affected, Serena being one, Moira not much at all 
though.

Cheers
Dave

On 22 Jul 2014, at 15:58, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
 activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
 cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize 
 that is not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to 
 let them know about the problem.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
 apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
 for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
 speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
 I'd ask..
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
So, how did you fix this, or did you?  Are you just using Alex?
Cait

On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
 apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
 for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
 speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
 I'd ask..
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Hi,
Well, I am using Alex for the default voice, but I do have some of the others 
for content, status, and so on.  So, maybe I'll just go back to using one voice 
for everything and see how that flies.
thanks for the reminder about emailing apple.  Will do.
Cait

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 The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
 activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
 cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I realize 
 that is not a solution. Please remember to email accessibil...@apple.com to 
 let them know about the problem.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
 apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
 for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure out how to 
 speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, but thought 
 I'd ask..
 Thanks,
 Cait
 
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

Well, for the time being I just put all the voices back to Alex and things seem 
to be smoother.
I am just now playing with activities, so am not even sure I'll stick with the 
ones I now have set up.
thanks,
Cait

On Jul 22, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Brian Fischler brianfisch...@me.com wrote:

 I have also noticed this as I have a lot of different voices for different 
 apps. What I have noticed when everything is working there is only a slight 
 delay when switching from say mail to safari, but for some reason every now 
 and then things slow to a halt almost making the computer unusable. When this 
 happens I restart my computer. Yes this is frustrating as I hate restarting 
 but it seems to get everything playing nice together again.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The problem seems to be when using Nuance voices. Even if none of your 
 activities change voices, just the act of using a Nuance voice appears to 
 cause slowness. Try switching to Alex and see if that helps, though I 
 realize that is not a solution. Please remember to email 
 accessibil...@apple.com to let them know about the problem.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
 apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change 
 windows, for example.  It's driving me a little nuts.  If I can't figure 
 out how to speed things back up, I'll just revert back to my old settings, 
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Re: activities

[Alex Hall]

I just don't use Activities. They are handy, but not useful enough to bother 
with for me.
On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 So, how did you fix this, or did you?  Are you just using Alex?
 Cait
 
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 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
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 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change windows, 
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Re: activities

[Caitlyn Furness]

I suspect that I am going to come to the same conclusion.

Too early to tell yet, though.
Cait

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 I just don't use Activities. They are handy, but not useful enough to bother 
 with for me.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 So, how did you fix this, or did you?  Are you just using Alex?
 Cait
 
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 7:38 AM, isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes I have experienced slowness when using different voices with different 
 apps.  especially when  switching to another app.
 On Jul 22, 2014, at 6:33 AM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
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 Hi,
 Is anybody else experiencing your mac seeming to get bogged down when you 
 are using activities with voiceover?
 
 I just loaded a new set of vo preferences a few days ago and it's got 
 several activities set up.  It now seems to take forever to change 
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Re: Activities

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi Anne,

Thanks for trying.  I have mine set to Play Tone as well.  I'll keep 
investigating.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

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 Hello Tim,
 
 I'm not sure about this but I certainly don't get these announcements. Have a 
 look at what you have set for When status changes in VO 
 Utility/Verbosity/Announcements. I have it set to Play tone.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
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 Hi,
 
 Just lately started playing with Activities.  So, whenever I go into the app 
 that I attached the Activity to, VO announces blah blah activity and 
 VoiceOver settings activity when exiting.  This includes when I cmd-tab in 
 and out of the app.  Is there a way to stop this extra verbosity?  There's 
 likely logic behind it, but I don't care for it.
 
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Activities

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Just lately started playing with Activities.  So, whenever I go into the app 
that I attached the Activity to, VO announces blah blah activity and 
VoiceOver settings activity when exiting.  This includes when I cmd-tab in 
and out of the app.  Is there a way to stop this extra verbosity?  There's 
likely logic behind it, but I don't care for it.

Later...

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Re: Activities

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Tim,

I'm not sure about this but I certainly don't get these announcements. Have a 
look at what you have set for When status changes in VO 
Utility/Verbosity/Announcements. I have it set to Play tone.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hi,
 
 Just lately started playing with Activities.  So, whenever I go into the app 
 that I attached the Activity to, VO announces blah blah activity and 
 VoiceOver settings activity when exiting.  This includes when I cmd-tab in 
 and out of the app.  Is there a way to stop this extra verbosity?  There's 
 likely logic behind it, but I don't care for it.
 
 Later...
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Alex,

How are you switching between apps and does your Mail activity kick in when you 
switch to mail?

I have a Mail activity with low verbosity and switching is immediate using 
Cmd-Tab. I have a MacBook Air 11-inches with 8 gb of RAM.

Cheers,

Anne


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 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so i 
 set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a couple 
 years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really slow, as 
 in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to use the app. 
 Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 8gb of ram, so i 
 figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long today as it did two 
 years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this problem? Is this universal, 
 or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[Daniel Hawkins]

Hello Alex,

Could you please explain more about the verbosity please? I played around with 
it after reading your text and thought I changed it but no difference.

The mail app is driving me crazy. I love threading but this is rediclous.
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so i 
 set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a couple 
 years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really slow, as 
 in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to use the app. 
 Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 8gb of ram, so i 
 figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long today as it did two 
 years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this problem? Is this universal, 
 or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[Alex Hall]

I am using cmd-tab as well, and yes, the activity is for Mail alone. When I 
tweeted about this, someone else said they are having the same problem under 
Mavericks. I recently did a clean install, so there's little chance it is 
something corrupt somewhere.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:

 Hello Alex,
 
 How are you switching between apps and does your Mail activity kick in when 
 you switch to mail?
 
 I have a Mail activity with low verbosity and switching is immediate using 
 Cmd-Tab. I have a MacBook Air 11-inches with 8 gb of RAM.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2014, at 05:30, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so i 
 set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a couple 
 years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really slow, as 
 in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to use the app. 
 Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 8gb of ram, so i 
 figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long today as it did two 
 years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this problem? Is this 
 universal, or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[Alex Hall]

To see how verbosity changes things, press vo-v, left or right arrow to 
verbosity, then up or down arrow to low and press space. It alters how 
messages are read in the Messages Table.

I set up an activity to do this automatically when Mail is active, but it now 
takes a long time to switch to or from Mail. To do this, just go to Activities 
in the VO Utility, add a new one, check 'verbosity, set it to low, then choose 
Mail from the applications popup button.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hello Alex,
 
 Could you please explain more about the verbosity please? I played around 
 with it after reading your text and thought I changed it but no difference.
 
 The mail app is driving me crazy. I love threading but this is rediclous.
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so i 
 set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a couple 
 years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really slow, as 
 in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to use the app. 
 Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 8gb of ram, so i 
 figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long today as it did two 
 years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this problem? Is this 
 universal, or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[Daniel Hawkins]

Alex,

Thanks! I finally now understand it now. That helps me to check my mail much 
much quicker now.

Thanks!
Daniel Hawkins
- Posted from my Macbook Pro

On Apr 23, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 To see how verbosity changes things, press vo-v, left or right arrow to 
 verbosity, then up or down arrow to low and press space. It alters how 
 messages are read in the Messages Table.
 
 I set up an activity to do this automatically when Mail is active, but it now 
 takes a long time to switch to or from Mail. To do this, just go to 
 Activities in the VO Utility, add a new one, check 'verbosity, set it to 
 low, then choose Mail from the applications popup button.
 On Apr 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Daniel Hawkins computersassocia...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 Could you please explain more about the verbosity please? I played around 
 with it after reading your text and thought I changed it but no difference.
 
 The mail app is driving me crazy. I love threading but this is rediclous.
 Daniel Hawkins
 - Posted from my Macbook Pro
 
 On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so 
 i set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a 
 couple years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really 
 slow, as in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to 
 use the app. Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 
 8gb of ram, so i figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long 
 today as it did two years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this 
 problem? Is this universal, or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[David Taylor]

Hi,

I find that app switching works well, using activities, but only if I use the 
Alex voice, and probably the older voices would work too, but not at all well 
with the nuance voices.  I have reported this to Apple.

Cheers
Dave

On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:52, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 I am using cmd-tab as well, and yes, the activity is for Mail alone. When I 
 tweeted about this, someone else said they are having the same problem under 
 Mavericks. I recently did a clean install, so there's little chance it is 
 something corrupt somewhere.
 On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 How are you switching between apps and does your Mail activity kick in when 
 you switch to mail?
 
 I have a Mail activity with low verbosity and switching is immediate using 
 Cmd-Tab. I have a MacBook Air 11-inches with 8 gb of RAM.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2014, at 05:30, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so 
 i set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a 
 couple years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really 
 slow, as in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to 
 use the app. Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 
 8gb of ram, so i figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long 
 today as it did two years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this 
 problem? Is this universal, or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[Alex Hall]

That's interesting, I'll have to see if that fixes things. I very much prefer 
the Ava voice, so use that exclusively.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:52 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I find that app switching works well, using activities, but only if I use the 
 Alex voice, and probably the older voices would work too, but not at all well 
 with the nuance voices.  I have reported this to Apple.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:52, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am using cmd-tab as well, and yes, the activity is for Mail alone. When I 
 tweeted about this, someone else said they are having the same problem under 
 Mavericks. I recently did a clean install, so there's little chance it is 
 something corrupt somewhere.
 On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 How are you switching between apps and does your Mail activity kick in when 
 you switch to mail?
 
 I have a Mail activity with low verbosity and switching is immediate using 
 Cmd-Tab. I have a MacBook Air 11-inches with 8 gb of RAM.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2014, at 05:30, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so 
 i set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a 
 couple years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go really 
 slow, as in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to 
 use the app. Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 
 8gb of ram, so i figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as long 
 today as it did two years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix this 
 problem? Is this universal, or do only some people experience it? Thanks.
 
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Re: App switching still takes too long when using activities

[David Taylor]

Yes, I really like the Serena voice, and still miss her on IOS, as I can't 
stand Daniel. I use Alex on Mac for the reasons just stated, and the Irish 
voice on IOS now.

Cheers
Dave

On 23 Apr 2014, at 20:06, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 That's interesting, I'll have to see if that fixes things. I very much prefer 
 the Ava voice, so use that exclusively.
 On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:52 PM, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I find that app switching works well, using activities, but only if I use 
 the Alex voice, and probably the older voices would work too, but not at all 
 well with the nuance voices.  I have reported this to Apple.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 23 Apr 2014, at 14:52, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I am using cmd-tab as well, and yes, the activity is for Mail alone. When I 
 tweeted about this, someone else said they are having the same problem 
 under Mavericks. I recently did a clean install, so there's little chance 
 it is something corrupt somewhere.
 On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:18 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk wrote:
 
 Hello Alex,
 
 How are you switching between apps and does your Mail activity kick in 
 when you switch to mail?
 
 I have a Mail activity with low verbosity and switching is immediate using 
 Cmd-Tab. I have a MacBook Air 11-inches with 8 gb of RAM.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On 23 Apr 2014, at 05:30, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the 
 disclosure triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, 
 so i set up an activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities 
 a couple years ago, but they caused switching to and from apps to go 
 really slow, as in at least five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being 
 able to use the app. Since then we've had two OS updates, and I went from 
 2gb to 8gb of ram, so i figured I'd be all set... Nope. It takes just as 
 long today as it did two years ago. Is there anything i can do to fix 
 this problem? Is this universal, or do only some people experience it? 
 Thanks.
 
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App switching still takes too long when using activities

[Alex Hall]

Hi all,
Someone recently told me that low verbosity in Mail eliminates the disclosure 
triangle and other annoying announcements. It does indeed, so i set up an 
activity to set low verbosity in Mail. I tried activities a couple years ago, 
but they caused switching to and from apps to go really slow, as in at least 
five seconds from pressing cmd-tab to being able to use the app. Since then 
we've had two OS updates, and I went from 2gb to 8gb of ram, so i figured I'd 
be all set... Nope. It takes just as long today as it did two years ago. Is 
there anything i can do to fix this problem? Is this universal, or do only some 
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Associating Braille tables with a voice in activities Vloiceover doesn't seem to work

[Andrew Lamanche]

Dear Listers,

I've just spent an inordinate amount of time trying to set up a new 
activity in Voiceover utilities that would associate a Braille 
translation table with a particular voice so that if I should choose it, 
my Braille tables will have changed automatically. When I saw that such 
a choice existed, I got really excited. The trouble is that this 
association doesn't seem to stick. Has anyone else had a go and 
succeeded to do so? I don't want to report it in case I'm making a 
mistake somewhere.


Best wishes

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Activities now switching well

[Traci Duncan]

Hi all,

Is there some sort of bug with VoiceOver activities?

I have set up a couple and most of the time they don't switch properly.  For 
example, when VO should switch back to my default activity  default voice, it 
often sounds like it is switching to Austrailian Lee.

I like Lee, but that is beside the point.  My default voice is Samantha compact.

Any suggestions?

Traci

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Setting up activities.

[Annie Skov Nielsen]

Hi all.

I have a problem that frustrates me a lot. I am using braille, and if I change 
the speech language, I would like my braille language to follow that changes. 
This is not possible. unless you set up some activities.

I will do that, but can I set up a hotkey that lets me activate a speciffic 
activity.

Best regards Annie.

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Re: Setting up activities.

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

There already is one.  It’s VO X.

hth

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On Aug 10, 2013, at 11:46 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi all.
 
 I have a problem that frustrates me a lot. I am using braille, and if I 
 change the speech language, I would like my braille language to follow that 
 changes. This is not possible. unless you set up some activities.
 
 I will do that, but can I set up a hotkey that lets me activate a speciffic 
 activity.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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activities section in voiceover utility.

[eric oyen]

hello guys,

I am curious about the activities menu item in voiceover. I would like to be 
able to make some nice shortcuts for common activities, but am not sure where 
to begin. Also, I may need to start using apple scripts for other things. Both 
of these items are starting to become important as I use my mac a lot more.

so? any suggestions?

-eric

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Re: activities section in voiceover utility.

[Alex Hall]

Activities are unfortunately named, as they do not do what they sound like. An 
activity is a way of associating certain settings with certain applications. 
For instance, you might have an activity called edit, in which vo is set to 
speak text attribute changes, use phonetics, and echo every character and word 
typed. You can choose it manually (vo-x) or have it auto-enable itself when you 
enter an app of your choosing, such as Text Edit. Once you leave the app, or 
use vo-x to choose your default activity, those settings go away and your 
normal settings return.

One thing to note about activities is that they can sometimes cause the Mac to 
slow down when you switch apps, since VO has to load the activity from disk 
each time. Of course, if you have a lot of ram and/or a flash-based hard drive, 
you may notice little to no difference, but it is something to keep in mind.

Scripts are different: you run them with commanders. For example, I have my 
keyboard commander set to speak time/date, ram status, wifi status, and so on, 
but I could as easily have assigned some of those scripts to the trackpad or 
numpad commanders if I wanted to. Of course, scripts can do a lot more than 
just speak, but your use case will differ from mine and I can't help further 
unless and until you have questions specifically about scripts. You can run 
scripts a couple other ways as well, but those are not VO-specific. Again, I 
don't know your use case for scripts so can't offer much more for now.
On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:30 PM, eric oyen eric.o...@gmail.com wrote:

 hello guys,
 
 I am curious about the activities menu item in voiceover. I would like to be 
 able to make some nice shortcuts for common activities, but am not sure where 
 to begin. Also, I may need to start using apple scripts for other things. 
 Both of these items are starting to become important as I use my mac a lot 
 more.
 
 so? any suggestions?
 
 -eric
 
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activities (was easy way to use iMessage on mac)

[Alex Hall]

The problem I found with activitiies is that they cause app switching to take a 
relatively long time. For instance, I used to have an activity that would 
enable quicknav whenever I entered an application that uses html, like Safari 
or the App Store. However, I quickly found that when I switched to or away from 
any of those apps, it took a second or two, instead of being immediate. I soon 
discovered that, for me, the delay was more frustrating than manually enabling 
quicknav when I want it, so I removed the activities. Maybe I did something 
wrong, though. If you have a way to use activities that are tied to apps with 
no delay, I'd be very interested. Any help I can get with hotspots would be 
welcomed as well, as I never really understood them and I hear others say they 
disappear and aren't worth it.
On Dec 1, 2012, at 9:55 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hey, if you still need help with this let me know off list, considerring... 
 well... you know... what I said earlier...
  
 I'd be happy to help you if so.
  Otherwise you can check my podcast at:
  
 http://clgproductions.podhoster.com
  
 where I will be later posting a tutorial on using activities, how to set them 
 up, and also how to use them in combination with hotspots.  You kind a lucked 
 out on this freeby as I actually ironically was going to make a podcast 
 anyway about this, before you even presented the initial question.
  
 Anyway, past that if you need more direct interactive help, my e-mail is:
  
 clgillan...@gmail.com
  
 and I'll be happy to work with you if needed.  I'd suspect the podcast to be 
 available probably within the next couple of days.  I need to do some 
 editting in ProTools with it, but for what it's worth, it shouldn't be that 
 much longer.  Also, if you go to that site now, don't be alarmed that there 
 is no posting there right now.  I've not started yet, so this probably will 
 be my first eppisode.
 
 Thank you kindly,
  
 Christopher-Mark Gilland.
 Founder of CLG Productions
 - Original Message -
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 12:20 PM
 Subject: Re: easy way to use iMessage on mac
 
 Oh Thanks so much. Christopher, what in the world is a message activity? 
 What is an activity? I know nothing of this? Where can I learn about this? 
 Colin, I like that idea and I will experiment with that. I will try that 
 shortly by getting hubby to chat with me via iMessage. :)
 
 
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Re: activities (was easy way to use iMessage on mac)

[Mark Baxter]

The lag when switching apps only gets worse if you choose a different voice, 
and it's the one single drawback to Activities, which is otherwise an extremely 
powerful way to use VO.  I have, now, two activities; the normal one, which I 
use for everything except messaging clients.  I use AIM instead of Messages, as 
I was having problems getting messages to read, and only use AIM and SKype 
regularly--who needs more than two IM clients? sheesh.  So, for these two apps, 
I use Alex, who is slightly louder than Fred for some reason.  I slow him down 
a bit, as Fred can speak very quickly and I can still understand him, but other 
voices this is not so much true.  I turn off all the elements of cursor 
tracking (There is no way to just turn cursor tracking off, except with a 
manual keystroke, but you *CAN* go through and uncheck all the boxes that say 
VoiceOver cursor follows … whatever, same beastie in the end..  Then, I park 
my message client's VO cursors in the HTML content window (leaving the 
insertion pointer in the edit boxes).  It sounds complicated but once it's all 
set up it's just a few keystrokes.

This is just one way to use Activities.  I've written to 
accessibil...@apple.com to suggest at least one or two others; activities which 
could come preset, with VO, but which might really help when using a new app 
for the first time or whatever.  That lag, though, I think is just a processor 
hard limit, and will be better or worse depending on how much RAM you have.

Don't let this lag dissuade you from using Activities to customize VO and make 
it even more flexible than it already is.,


 • Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 • AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969
 • MSN:  burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
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RE: activities (was easy way to use iMessage on mac)

[Kliphton . A . M]

Even before I got my SSD, I didn't experience lag in voices when I had
different voices set up for different activities.  AS for using iMessage,
just set up a commander to go to the beginning and, and then just inter act
with the HTML section when reading and replying to messages, works like a
charm for me!

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(TwitterSkype) kliphton72
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Baxter
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:57 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: activities (was easy way to use iMessage on mac)

The lag when switching apps only gets worse if you choose a different voice,
and it's the one single drawback to Activities, which is otherwise an
extremely powerful way to use VO.  I have, now, two activities; the normal
one, which I use for everything except messaging clients.  I use AIM instead
of Messages, as I was having problems getting messages to read, and only use
AIM and SKype regularly--who needs more than two IM clients? sheesh.  So,
for these two apps, I use Alex, who is slightly louder than Fred for some
reason.  I slow him down a bit, as Fred can speak very quickly and I can
still understand him, but other voices this is not so much true.  I turn off
all the elements of cursor tracking (There is no way to just turn cursor
tracking off, except with a manual keystroke, but you *CAN* go through and
uncheck all the boxes that say VoiceOver cursor follows . whatever, same
beastie in the end..  Then, I park my message client's VO cursors in the
HTML content window (leaving the insertion pointer in the edit boxes).  It
sounds complicated but once it's all set up it's just a few keystrokes.

This is just one way to use Activities.  I've written to
accessibil...@apple.com to suggest at least one or two others; activities
which could come preset, with VO, but which might really help when using a
new app for the first time or whatever.  That lag, though, I think is just a
processor hard limit, and will be better or worse depending on how much RAM
you have.

Don't let this lag dissuade you from using Activities to customize VO and
make it even more flexible than it already is.,


 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969  . MSN:
burninghawk1...@hotmail.com  . My home page:
 . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/

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Re: activities (was easy way to use iMessage on mac)

[Alex Hall]

The activity I had did not change voices at all, it just enabled quicknav for 
certain apps. Even so, there was quite a lag, enough that I got tired of 
dealing with it and never used activities again. It's easy to say don't let 
the lag stop you, but when you're used to quick operation and then have to 
wait every time you switch into or out of apps, it quickly gets to be 
frustrating.
On Dec 2, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Kliphton.A.M kliph...@outlook.com wrote:

 Even before I got my SSD, I didn't experience lag in voices when I had
 different voices set up for different activities.  AS for using iMessage,
 just set up a commander to go to the beginning and, and then just inter act
 with the HTML section when reading and replying to messages, works like a
 charm for me!
 
 Kliphton Senior
 (EmailiMessage) kliph...@outlook.com
 (TwitterSkype) kliphton72
 (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com
 (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com
 (face book) http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie
 
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Baxter
 Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2012 8:57 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: activities (was easy way to use iMessage on mac)
 
 The lag when switching apps only gets worse if you choose a different voice,
 and it's the one single drawback to Activities, which is otherwise an
 extremely powerful way to use VO.  I have, now, two activities; the normal
 one, which I use for everything except messaging clients.  I use AIM instead
 of Messages, as I was having problems getting messages to read, and only use
 AIM and SKype regularly--who needs more than two IM clients? sheesh.  So,
 for these two apps, I use Alex, who is slightly louder than Fred for some
 reason.  I slow him down a bit, as Fred can speak very quickly and I can
 still understand him, but other voices this is not so much true.  I turn off
 all the elements of cursor tracking (There is no way to just turn cursor
 tracking off, except with a manual keystroke, but you *CAN* go through and
 uncheck all the boxes that say VoiceOver cursor follows . whatever, same
 beastie in the end..  Then, I park my message client's VO cursors in the
 HTML content window (leaving the insertion pointer in the edit boxes).  It
 sounds complicated but once it's all set up it's just a few keystrokes.
 
 This is just one way to use Activities.  I've written to
 accessibil...@apple.com to suggest at least one or two others; activities
 which could come preset, with VO, but which might really help when using a
 new app for the first time or whatever.  That lag, though, I think is just a
 processor hard limit, and will be better or worse depending on how much RAM
 you have.
 
 Don't let this lag dissuade you from using Activities to customize VO and
 make it even more flexible than it already is.,
 
 
 . Mark BurningHawk Baxter
 . AIM, Skype and Twitter:  BurningHawk1969  . MSN:
 burninghawk1...@hotmail.com  . My home page:
 . http://MarkBurningHawk.net/
 
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importing activities? Can this be done?

[Matthew Campbell]

Hello.
I just took delivery of a brand new MacBook Air yesterday afternoon. When I 
exported my VO prefs from my old Mac, and then imported them in to my new one 
everything imported properly accept for activities.
Does anyone know if activities are supposed to be exported when one exports 
VO's preferences? If yes, shouldn't they be imported when one chooses to import 
preferences?
Thanks for any answers. I'm feeling like this is a small bug that I should 
report to Apple Accessibility.
Thanks again for any feedback.
Matthew Campbell


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Issues with Activities

[Christopher-Mark gilland]

OK.  I've not tested this in anything aside from Safari, but using Mountain 
Lion, which by the way is very specifically important in this equasion, if 
you're not on ML, you're probably not gonna have this issue.  I'm finding 
that if I go into the Voiceover Utility, and go down to activities, and set 
up my activity for Safari, more specifically, I tell it by default to turn 
on quick nav, and also to turn on numpad commander, I find it doesn't work. 
I attach the activity obviously to safari.app, so it's not like I'm doing 
anything wrong that I know of, it just simply put, won't do it.


Especially the num pad commander, I'm finding isn't working with the 
activity.  If I quit and reopen Safari those settings don't get turned on. 
Yes, I am indeed setting them through the activities section of the Vo 
utility, not! through the commanders category.  I already know avout that, 
yes.  Trust me, I had this working gorgeously! in Lion.  The only? thing! I 
can faddem that even remotely might! be causing this is the fact I didn't do 
a clean install.  I actually upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion.  I know 
boy did it reek havvock! with my RSS stuff.  Man oh man!  That's another 
thread entirely, but it took quite some digging to get that issue fixed.


Yeah, I suppose I could totally reset my Voiceover settings to default, then 
reconfigure them, and see if that helps.  I don't per sey have a problem 
doing that, no, but it's a bit more trouble than it's worth unless I really 
have to.  Thank God I don't have many activities set up.  In fact aside 
trying to do that with Safari, I don't think I've got any! set up.


I just wonder if anyone else has noticed this, or have I done something 
really weird to cause it not to work.


Thanks kindly.  Am going out for lunch here in a sec, but I'll keep an eye 
out in case any of yall write back.


Chris.

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Re: Issues with Activities

[Alex Hall]

Well, I have an activity to enable quicknav in safari and chrome, and it works. 
It is slow, causing a delay of 1-2 seconds when I switch to or from those apps, 
but it works. That said, I set it up in Mountain Lion (at least I think I did). 
I don't toggle the numpad commander, only quicknav. Have you tried erasing the 
activity and creating it again?
On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Christopher-Mark gilland 
clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK.  I've not tested this in anything aside from Safari, but using Mountain 
 Lion, which by the way is very specifically important in this equasion, if 
 you're not on ML, you're probably not gonna have this issue.  I'm finding 
 that if I go into the Voiceover Utility, and go down to activities, and set 
 up my activity for Safari, more specifically, I tell it by default to turn on 
 quick nav, and also to turn on numpad commander, I find it doesn't work. I 
 attach the activity obviously to safari.app, so it's not like I'm doing 
 anything wrong that I know of, it just simply put, won't do it.
 
 Especially the num pad commander, I'm finding isn't working with the 
 activity.  If I quit and reopen Safari those settings don't get turned on. 
 Yes, I am indeed setting them through the activities section of the Vo 
 utility, not! through the commanders category.  I already know avout that, 
 yes.  Trust me, I had this working gorgeously! in Lion.  The only? thing! I 
 can faddem that even remotely might! be causing this is the fact I didn't do 
 a clean install.  I actually upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion.  I know boy 
 did it reek havvock! with my RSS stuff.  Man oh man!  That's another thread 
 entirely, but it took quite some digging to get that issue fixed.
 
 Yeah, I suppose I could totally reset my Voiceover settings to default, then 
 reconfigure them, and see if that helps.  I don't per sey have a problem 
 doing that, no, but it's a bit more trouble than it's worth unless I really 
 have to.  Thank God I don't have many activities set up.  In fact aside 
 trying to do that with Safari, I don't think I've got any! set up.
 
 I just wonder if anyone else has noticed this, or have I done something 
 really weird to cause it not to work.
 
 Thanks kindly.  Am going out for lunch here in a sec, but I'll keep an eye 
 out in case any of yall write back.
 
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Re: Issues with Activities

[Jakob Rosin]

Hi!
I tested it on my mac also.
It seems sometimes to fail to turn on quick nav if it is off previously.
I created the same activity as  Christopher described. it works, but sometimes 
it doesn't switch on the quick nav.


Kõike paremat soovides
With best regards
Jakob Rosin
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On Aug 21, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I have an activity to enable quicknav in safari and chrome, and it 
 works. It is slow, causing a delay of 1-2 seconds when I switch to or from 
 those apps, but it works. That said, I set it up in Mountain Lion (at least I 
 think I did). I don't toggle the numpad commander, only quicknav. Have you 
 tried erasing the activity and creating it again?
 On Aug 21, 2012, at 10:10 AM, Christopher-Mark gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK.  I've not tested this in anything aside from Safari, but using Mountain 
 Lion, which by the way is very specifically important in this equasion, if 
 you're not on ML, you're probably not gonna have this issue.  I'm finding 
 that if I go into the Voiceover Utility, and go down to activities, and set 
 up my activity for Safari, more specifically, I tell it by default to turn 
 on quick nav, and also to turn on numpad commander, I find it doesn't work. 
 I attach the activity obviously to safari.app, so it's not like I'm doing 
 anything wrong that I know of, it just simply put, won't do it.
 
 Especially the num pad commander, I'm finding isn't working with the 
 activity.  If I quit and reopen Safari those settings don't get turned on. 
 Yes, I am indeed setting them through the activities section of the Vo 
 utility, not! through the commanders category.  I already know avout that, 
 yes.  Trust me, I had this working gorgeously! in Lion.  The only? thing! I 
 can faddem that even remotely might! be causing this is the fact I didn't do 
 a clean install.  I actually upgraded from Lion to Mountain Lion.  I know 
 boy did it reek havvock! with my RSS stuff.  Man oh man!  That's another 
 thread entirely, but it took quite some digging to get that issue fixed.
 
 Yeah, I suppose I could totally reset my Voiceover settings to default, then 
 reconfigure them, and see if that helps.  I don't per sey have a problem 
 doing that, no, but it's a bit more trouble than it's worth unless I really 
 have to.  Thank God I don't have many activities set up.  In fact aside 
 trying to do that with Safari, I don't think I've got any! set up.
 
 I just wonder if anyone else has noticed this, or have I done something 
 really weird to cause it not to work.
 
 Thanks kindly.  Am going out for lunch here in a sec, but I'll keep an eye 
 out in case any of yall write back.
 
 Chris.
 
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Re: Activities question

[Ioana Gandrabur]

Hi. 

Not sure I get the question.
You can set verbosity options for the mail app specifically. Is this what you 
are asking?

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 In the activities tables, is there anyway to set a separate 
 punctuationverbosity  level for mail the main menu and mail emails that are 
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Re: Activities question

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No Bill, I don't believe so. It is only at the application level, not the 
window level.


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Re: Activities question

[Bill Holton]

Hi.
What I meant was I want to set a separate verbosity option for when I'm in the 
message table I do not want to hear the colon, but when I'm reading a message I 
would like to hear the colons. Does that make sense question
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 Not sure I get the question.
 You can set verbosity options for the mail app specifically. Is this what you 
 are asking?
 
 Best,
 
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Activities question

[Bill Holton]

Hi.

In the activities tables, is there anyway to set a separate 
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Setting activities

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi folks,
I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is that  
when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I leave 
Safari.
I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked the 
additional settings to include checkbox.
I've checked quick nav.

And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no difference. 
Any other suggestions?
Thanks for your help.

Lisette

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Re: Setting activities

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

did you actually pick the activity to be used with Safari?  You didn't mention 
that step in your message.

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On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi folks,
 I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is 
 that  when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I 
 leave Safari.
 I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
 I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
 I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked 
 the additional settings to include checkbox.
 I've checked quick nav.
 
 And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
 other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no 
 difference. 
 Any other suggestions?
 Thanks for your help.
 
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Re: Setting activities

[Lisette Wesseling]

Hi Ricardo 
I thought turning on quick nav was picking the activity. 
I wondered if  I was missing a step but don't understand how to pick the 
activity
I'm sure it's easy if you know how (smile).
Lisette

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 Hi,
 
 did you actually pick the activity to be used with Safari?  You didn't 
 mention that step in your message.
 
 Ricardo Walker
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 On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is 
 that  when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when I 
 leave Safari.
 I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
 I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
 I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked 
 the additional settings to include checkbox.
 I've checked quick nav.
 
 And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
 other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no 
 difference. 
 Any other suggestions?
 Thanks for your help.
 
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Re: Setting activities

[Alex Hall]

You have to select an application with which to associate the activity if you 
want this to happen automatically. At the end of all the settings for the 
activity should be a popup button; open that and select any applications in 
which you want this activity to start. For instance, you may want to do this 
for both Safari and App Store as both rely on html content. Once you are done, 
that activity should turn on whenever you focus on any application set. Note, 
however, that there will now be a delay of a second or three when switching to 
or from the application(s) as vo switches to and from the activity. If all else 
fails, vo-x will let you pick from all the activities you have created.
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wrote:

 Hi Ricardo 
 I thought turning on quick nav was picking the activity. 
 I wondered if  I was missing a step but don't understand how to pick the 
 activity
 I'm sure it's easy if you know how (smile).
 Lisette
 
 On 8/08/2012, at 6:43 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 did you actually pick the activity to be used with Safari?  You didn't 
 mention that step in your message.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Aug 8, 2012, at 2:06 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 I'm not having much luck setting up an activity for Safari. All I want is 
 that  when Safari starts,  quicknav be turned on and turned off again when 
 I leave Safari.
 I've gone into VO Utility with vo f8.
 I've chosen activity which is the last row in the table.
 I've entered Safari in the first row of the activities table. I've checked 
 the additional settings to include checkbox.
 I've checked quick nav.
 
 And yet quick nav doesn't turn on when I go into Safari. Should any of the 
 other boxes be checked? I checked keyboard also, but this makes no 
 difference. 
 Any other suggestions?
 Thanks for your help.
 
 Lisette
 
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Re: Setting activities

[Mark BurningHawk Baxter]

I believe the first column in that table is name of activity.  So, you might 
call it Safari VO, or something; I'm not really sure what the purpose of 
naming an activity is, other than to quickly identify it, which seems redundant 
since activities themselves are application specific.


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