Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!


If you were doing your own wrenching, I apologize.  If you
were using a 'trained' mechanic, then HE is the idiot!

It was explained to me, back when my tranny needed servicing,
that IF you take it out you ALWAYS replace those then-easy
seals, because the parts and incremental labor are cheap.
And you _don't_ want to have to pull it again the next year.
Or month.

After all, if one is already leaking the others may not be
far behind.  The rear seal can be done in-car, so there's
no need to do that one unless it _is_ leaking.


He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed.


If I recall correctly, and yours is anything like mine,
it's four bolts right on the front.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

126 Manual:
http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12253/program/matrix.htm


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> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
> Thomas via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 6:49 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Rich Thomas
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
> 
> I have a 126 manual, and I think they are posted somewhere.  I guess I
could
> put it up on Dropbox or something and y'all could download it.
> 
> This stuff is not rocket surgery, the Germans actually thought about
repairs on
> these cars.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/9/15 6:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> > I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him.
> >
> > RB
> >
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Re: [MBZ] CRASH ALERT!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That is just wrong 

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> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:08 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sure, why not?  How much money and engineering friends do you have?
> 
> W211 technology works just fine in a W126, if you know the right people.
> http://images.jaimekop.com/2004_11_29_W126_COMAND/IMG_0543.JPG
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Do you think I could retrofit any of this to one of the 84 SDs?
>> 
>> 
>> http://jalopnik.com/how-the-new-mercedes-benz-e-class-will-protect-your-ear-1716557168
>> 
>> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Oh My Lord...

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

In Da Region

--R (sent from my miniPad)

On Jul 9, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/5114981289.html

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Re: [MBZ] CRASH ALERT!

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Sure, why not?  How much money and engineering friends do you have?

W211 technology works just fine in a W126, if you know the right people.
http://images.jaimekop.com/2004_11_29_W126_COMAND/IMG_0543.JPG

Jaime


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> Do you think I could retrofit any of this to one of the 84 SDs?
>
>
> http://jalopnik.com/how-the-new-mercedes-benz-e-class-will-protect-your-ear-1716557168
>
> --R
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[MBZ] Oh My Lord...

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/5114981289.html

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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

How did I guess? I suspect he has  a video on how to hook up your MB
seatbelt. That said i find his how-to videos helpful.
On Jul 9, 2015 8:57 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> ‎Yep.
>
> http://youtu.be/PFHR9PR1GKo
>
> ‎
> https://mercedessource.com/store/617-turbo-diesel-transmission-front-reseal-kit-late
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Yep. 

http://youtu.be/PFHR9PR1GKo

‎https://mercedessource.com/store/617-turbo-diesel-transmission-front-reseal-kit-late

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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Kent Bergsma must have a video online about that.
On Jul 9, 2015 6:29 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Pull trans then unbolt it from the front of tranny
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
> > how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some
> research
> > and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion
> group
> > and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
> > pump could be removed.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Ralph
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
> >> transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced
> they
> >> were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
> >> cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
> >> standard) but just cars.
> >> -Curt
> >>  From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
> >> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> >> Cc: Ralph Robertson 
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
> >>
> >> I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have
> mercedes
> >> mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff
> are
> >> younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer
> doing
> >> my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but
> he
> >> isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with
> what
> >> I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I
> have
> >> lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
> >> My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
> >> for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I
> know
> >> the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
> >> this job.
> >> Thanks for any help.
> >> Ralph
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Ralph,
> >>>
> >>> I think he was referring to the mechanic.
> >>>
> >>> If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in
> order
> >>> to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front
> >> (pump)
> >>> cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
> >>> slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
> >>> gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under
> >> those
> >>> circumstances.
> >>>
> >>> I would be looking for another mechanic.
> >>>
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>
> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
> >>> have
>  the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
> 
>  Ralph
> 
>  On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
> >>> check
> >> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
> >> Replaced
> >> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
> >> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
> >
> > Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
> > replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
> > Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
> > rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
> > at you at that point.
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Randy sez:

>Wierd. How does one not see a >red F150 Supercrew in >daylight???
>

Canada may be different, but as I explained to both of my sons as they were 
learning to drive;

75% of all drivers on the road right now are distracted. They are

1. Texting/surfing the Web. 
2. Talking on the phone. 
3. Talking/yelling at passengers
4. On medication that impares there judgement and motor skills. 
5. Taking illicit substances that impare them. 
6. Are angry, depressed, or some other emotional state that impares 
‎them. 
7. Fiddling with the radio. 
8. Need their vision corrected, but don't have proper eye wear. 
9. More in tune with the music on the stereo, than the other cars on the road. 
10. Just plain bad drivers. 

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Ralph writes:

>He didn't seem to know how the
>pump could be removed.


‎I could be wrong, but I think the front seal can be done WITHOUT removing the 
front pump. ‎
‎
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I have a 126 manual, and I think they are posted somewhere.  I guess I 
could put it up on Dropbox or something and y'all could download it.


This stuff is not rocket surgery, the Germans actually thought about 
repairs on these cars.


--R



On 7/9/15 6:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him.

RB




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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him.

RB

On 09/07/2015 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:

He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some research
and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion group
and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
pump could be removed.

Thanks.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they
were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
standard) but just cars.
-Curt
   From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Ralph Robertson 
  Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
this job.
Thanks for any help.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Ralph,

I think he was referring to the mechanic.

If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front

(pump)

cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under

those

circumstances.

I would be looking for another mechanic.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't

have

the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.

Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage

check

this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
Replaced
the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,

Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
at you at that point.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Pull trans then unbolt it from the front of tranny

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
> how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some research
> and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion group
> and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
> pump could be removed.
> 
> Thanks.
> Ralph
> 
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
>> transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they
>> were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
>> cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
>> standard) but just cars.
>> -Curt
>>  From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Ralph Robertson 
>> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
>> 
>> I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
>> mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
>> younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
>> my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
>> isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
>> I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
>> lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
>> My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
>> for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
>> the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
>> this job.
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Ralph
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ralph,
>>> 
>>> I think he was referring to the mechanic.
>>> 
>>> If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
>>> to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front
>> (pump)
>>> cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
>>> slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
>>> gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under
>> those
>>> circumstances.
>>> 
>>> I would be looking for another mechanic.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
>>> have
 the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
 
 Ralph
 
 On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
>>> check
>> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
>> Replaced
>> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
>> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
> 
> Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
> replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
> Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
> rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
> at you at that point.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Ralph Robertson via Mercedes]

He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know
how much of a job it would be to replace.  He was going to do some research
and see what was involved.  I said I would check with the discussion group
and see if I could get any help for him.  He didn't seem to know how the
pump could be removed.

Thanks.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other
> transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they
> were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other
> cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher
> standard) but just cars.
> -Curt
>   From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Ralph Robertson 
>  Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
>
> I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
> mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
> younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
> my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
> isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
> I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
> lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
> My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
> for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
> the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
> this job.
> Thanks for any help.
> Ralph
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Ralph,
> >
> > I think he was referring to the mechanic.
> >
> > If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
> > to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front
> (pump)
> > cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
> > slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
> > gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under
> those
> > circumstances.
> >
> > I would be looking for another mechanic.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > > On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
> > have
> > > the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
> > >
> > > Ralph
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
> > check
> > >>> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
> > >>> Replaced
> > >>> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
> > >>> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
> > >>
> > >> Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
> > >> replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
> > >> Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
> > >> rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
> > >> at you at that point.
> > >>
> > >> -- Jim
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other 
transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were 
some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher 
quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars.
-Curt
  From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
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Cc: Ralph Robertson  
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
   
I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
this job.
Thanks for any help.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ralph,
>
> I think he was referring to the mechanic.
>
> If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
> to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump)
> cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
> slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
> gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those
> circumstances.
>
> I would be looking for another mechanic.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
> have
> > the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
> check
> >>> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
> >>> Replaced
> >>> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
> >>> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
> >>
> >> Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
> >> replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
> >> Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
> >> rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
> >> at you at that point.
> >>
> >> -- Jim
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Ralph Robertson via Mercedes]

I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that.  I don't have mercedes
mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are
younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing
my work.  I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he
isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best.  I work with what
I have available here.  When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have
lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada.
My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal
for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help.  I know
the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in
this job.
Thanks for any help.
Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ralph,
>
> I think he was referring to the mechanic.
>
> If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order
> to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump)
> cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the
> slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump
> gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those
> circumstances.
>
> I would be looking for another mechanic.
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't
> have
> > the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage
> check
> >>> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
> >>> Replaced
> >>> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
> >>> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
> >>
> >> Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
> >> replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
> >> Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
> >> rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
> >> at you at that point.
> >>
> >> -- Jim
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

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> Not that there's anything wrong with that...

OK, who are you and what have you done with Andrew?

(I guess the identity thieves got him:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102806692 )

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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ralph,

I think he was referring to the mechanic.

If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to 
check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover 
as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of 
seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a 
quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances.

I would be looking for another mechanic.

Dan

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> On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
> the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
>>> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
>>> Replaced
>>> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
>>> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
>> 
>> Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
>> replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
>> Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
>> rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
>> at you at that point.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What about it?

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What about when you visit San Francisco?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 7/9/15 4:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Silly question - I live in D.C.  Every R here packs heat and is looking
>> for any excuse to terminate a D with extreme prejudice.
>> Not that there's anything wrong with that...
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>> Hey, do you leave your gun in your car when going someplace where
>> it isn't needed?
>>
>> --R
>>
>>
>> On 7/9/15 3:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>> Does one remove the chrome sill strip simply by prying it in
>> an upward
>> motion?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah, thats what I read out of it. It seems crazy to me that knowing you had a 
leak they pulled the transmission and didn't replace all the exterior seals on 
the trans. I'd suggest to them that they get to do this seal for free...
-Curt
  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Randy Bennell  
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
   
I suggest you misunderstood.
I believe he was suggesting your mechanic was an idiot for not replacing 
easy to get at items while the transmission was out.

RB

On 09/07/2015 2:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:
> Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
> the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
>>> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
>>> Replaced
>>> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
>>> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
>>>
>> Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
>> replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
>> Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
>> rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
>> at you at that point.
>>
>> -- Jim
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

What about when you visit San Francisco?

--R


On 7/9/15 4:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Silly question - I live in D.C.  Every R here packs heat and is 
looking for any excuse to terminate a D with extreme prejudice.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Hey, do you leave your gun in your car when going someplace where
it isn't needed?

--R


On 7/9/15 3:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Does one remove the chrome sill strip simply by prying it in
an upward
motion?



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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I suggest you misunderstood.
I believe he was suggesting your mechanic was an idiot for not replacing 
easy to get at items while the transmission was out.


RB

On 09/07/2015 2:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote:

Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.

Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check

this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
Replaced
the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,


Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
at you at that point.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Silly question - I live in D.C.  Every R here packs heat and is looking
for any excuse to terminate a D with extreme prejudice.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hey, do you leave your gun in your car when going someplace where it isn't
> needed?
>
> --R
>
>
> On 7/9/15 3:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Does one remove the chrome sill strip simply by prying it in an upward
>> motion?
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Ralph Robertson via Mercedes]

Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot!  Sorry I don't have
the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice.

Ralph

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
>> this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.
>> Replaced
>> the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
>> leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
>>
>
> Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
> replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
> Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
> rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
> at you at that point.
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Hey, do you leave your gun in your car when going someplace where it 
isn't needed?


--R


On 7/9/15 3:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Does one remove the chrome sill strip simply by prying it in an upward
motion?



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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, but do it carefully so that you don't bent it. If you do, it could end up 
with a "curl" in it that makes it tough to get fully seated again.

I highly recommend the use of plastic body filler spreaders/scrapers to get 
under this sort of thing to pry it up. You won't damage the paint that way, and 
with them inserted underneath the trim, if you need more leverage you can use a 
metal tool on top of the plastic scraper, if that makes sense.

On the chassis' mentioned previously, I always started from the back edge 
(strike side) of the door, as the trim was widest and strongest there. This 
made it less likely to bend or distort while pulling up on the trim piece.

Dan

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> On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Does one remove the chrome sill strip simply by prying it in an upward motion?
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>> wrote:
>> AUtohaus AZ  - German import @$13.50/side
>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I don't recall doing window scrapers on a W124, but on the W123 and W126 
>>> the outer scraper is clipped to the outer window sill moulding.  The 
>>> scraper itself can be pulled up and out of the clip on both the inside and 
>>> outside. The clips are very, very strong, and you might find yourself 
>>> pulling the trim up with it, as the clip is clipped to the trim as well.
>>> 
>>> I liked pulling the trim off, as it allowed me to clean underneath, which 
>>> is usually horribly messy.
>>> 
>>> The inner scraper was similarly clipped on to the inner door panel, which 
>>> you don't have to remove.
>>> 
>>> Another reason why I liked pulling the trim and inner door panel to do this 
>>> is that on some occasions you would push the clips down and out of reach 
>>> when attempting to install the new scraper.
>>> 
>>> Where did you end up getting your window scrapers?
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>> >  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This weekend I am going to tackle the refreshment of the LF and RF rubber
>>> > window scrapers, which have aged to the point of being completely 
>>> > incapable
>>> > of removing fog or water droplets when I lower/raise either front
>>> > window. Due to my twin credos of "ready, shoot, aim" and "why do it right
>>> > the first time?", any job is a challenge and definitely an adventure. This
>>> > jobtherefore has a HIGH degree of difficulty, which means, assuming I am
>>> > successful, I will deserve at least one and perhaps TWO "attaboys" (one 
>>> > for
>>> > each side).
>>> >
>>> > Can someone advise me on the steps involved?
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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Does one remove the chrome sill strip simply by prying it in an upward
motion?

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 2:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> AUtohaus AZ  - German import @$13.50/side
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't recall doing window scrapers on a W124, but on the W123 and W126
>> the outer scraper is clipped to the outer window sill moulding.  The
>> scraper itself can be pulled up and out of the clip on both the inside and
>> outside. The clips are very, very strong, and you might find yourself
>> pulling the trim up with it, as the clip is clipped to the trim as well.
>>
>> I liked pulling the trim off, as it allowed me to clean underneath, which
>> is usually horribly messy.
>>
>> The inner scraper was similarly clipped on to the inner door panel, which
>> you don't have to remove.
>>
>> Another reason why I liked pulling the trim and inner door panel to do
>> this is that on some occasions you would push the clips down and out of
>> reach when attempting to install the new scraper.
>>
>> Where did you end up getting your window scrapers?
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > This weekend I am going to tackle the refreshment of the LF and RF
>> rubber
>> > window scrapers, which have aged to the point of being completely
>> incapable
>> > of removing fog or water droplets when I lower/raise either front
>> > window. Due to my twin credos of "ready, shoot, aim" and "why do it
>> right
>> > the first time?", any job is a challenge and definitely an adventure.
>> This
>> > jobtherefore has a HIGH degree of difficulty, which means, assuming I am
>> > successful, I will deserve at least one and perhaps TWO "attaboys" (one
>> for
>> > each side).
>> >
>> > Can someone advise me on the steps involved?
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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

AUtohaus AZ  - German import @$13.50/side

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't recall doing window scrapers on a W124, but on the W123 and W126
> the outer scraper is clipped to the outer window sill moulding.  The
> scraper itself can be pulled up and out of the clip on both the inside and
> outside. The clips are very, very strong, and you might find yourself
> pulling the trim up with it, as the clip is clipped to the trim as well.
>
> I liked pulling the trim off, as it allowed me to clean underneath, which
> is usually horribly messy.
>
> The inner scraper was similarly clipped on to the inner door panel, which
> you don't have to remove.
>
> Another reason why I liked pulling the trim and inner door panel to do
> this is that on some occasions you would push the clips down and out of
> reach when attempting to install the new scraper.
>
> Where did you end up getting your window scrapers?
>
> Dan
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This weekend I am going to tackle the refreshment of the LF and RF rubber
> > window scrapers, which have aged to the point of being completely
> incapable
> > of removing fog or water droplets when I lower/raise either front
> > window. Due to my twin credos of "ready, shoot, aim" and "why do it right
> > the first time?", any job is a challenge and definitely an adventure.
> This
> > jobtherefore has a HIGH degree of difficulty, which means, assuming I am
> > successful, I will deserve at least one and perhaps TWO "attaboys" (one
> for
> > each side).
> >
> > Can someone advise me on the steps involved?
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Re: [MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don't recall doing window scrapers on a W124, but on the W123 and W126 the 
outer scraper is clipped to the outer window sill moulding.  The scraper itself 
can be pulled up and out of the clip on both the inside and outside. The clips 
are very, very strong, and you might find yourself pulling the trim up with it, 
as the clip is clipped to the trim as well.

I liked pulling the trim off, as it allowed me to clean underneath, which is 
usually horribly messy.

The inner scraper was similarly clipped on to the inner door panel, which you 
don't have to remove.

Another reason why I liked pulling the trim and inner door panel to do this is 
that on some occasions you would push the clips down and out of reach when 
attempting to install the new scraper.

Where did you end up getting your window scrapers?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 9, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This weekend I am going to tackle the refreshment of the LF and RF rubber
> window scrapers, which have aged to the point of being completely incapable
> of removing fog or water droplets when I lower/raise either front
> window. Due to my twin credos of "ready, shoot, aim" and "why do it right
> the first time?", any job is a challenge and definitely an adventure. This
> jobtherefore has a HIGH degree of difficulty, which means, assuming I am
> successful, I will deserve at least one and perhaps TWO "attaboys" (one for
> each side).
> 
> Can someone advise me on the steps involved?
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[MBZ] Front window scraper remove and install - W123 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This weekend I am going to tackle the refreshment of the LF and RF rubber
window scrapers, which have aged to the point of being completely incapable
of removing fog or water droplets when I lower/raise either front
window. Due to my twin credos of "ready, shoot, aim" and "why do it right
the first time?", any job is a challenge and definitely an adventure. This
jobtherefore has a HIGH degree of difficulty, which means, assuming I am
successful, I will deserve at least one and perhaps TWO "attaboys" (one for
each side).

Can someone advise me on the steps involved?
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[MBZ] M102 shock, M103 not?

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Amended by banana fingered idiot 

Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.   
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[MBZ] M103 belt tensioner shock.

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Greetings and Salutations fellow sufferers.Does any one need an 102 200 15 14 
belt tensioner shock?Stabilus #947687.I was rummaging around for a part and 
found this amongst my pile of orphaned stuff.N.O.S. Yours for the asking. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Climate Change Wording

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Anybody read the story about the former Governator and how he commuted the 
murder sentence of one of his political crony buddy's son like ten minutes 
before his term was up?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/11/arnold-pardoned-my-sons-attacker-schwarzeneggers-commutation-of-fabian-nunezs-son.html

Dan

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> On Jul 9, 2015, at 11:41 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I love Jerry Brown!  “We have a lot of troglodytes south of the border,” he
> said.  This is a point I have been making on this list, semi-facetiously
> but in good humor.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

I get along just fine in my 240D. No real performance difference.

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> On Jul 9, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yabbut who is going to be driving this car and be in a hurry?
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Older gen knew better how to drive a car like this, which comparatively 
>> speaking is a dinosaur.  The brakes and steering, although state of the art 
>> decades ago, would be a real challenge to drivers today, especially with a 
>> 0-60 time of about 30 seconds.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah, once the rivers run technicolor and catch fire and there is no water fit 
to drink.They've already shrouded themselves in a nearly unbreathable cloud...
-Curt
  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel  
 Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 12:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Obamapower
   
Once they realize that poisoning their environment is not sustainable they
will clean up their act.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "A recent Washington Post
>> <
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html?referrer=emailarticle
>> >
>> article, however, has revealed that China's booming solar industry is not
>> as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
>> European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic
>> pollution
>> in Chinese villages and farmlands.
>>
>> The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
>> polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to
>> the
>> lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents."
>> http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650
>>
>
> NIMBY
>
> but...but... (sniveling voice) it makes obummer and andrew feel good, so
> it HAS to be GOOD!
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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Once they realize that poisoning their environment is not sustainable they
will clean up their act.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "A recent Washington Post
>> <
>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html?referrer=emailarticle
>> >
>> article, however, has revealed that China's booming solar industry is not
>> as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
>> European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic
>> pollution
>> in Chinese villages and farmlands.
>>
>> The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
>> polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to
>> the
>> lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents."
>> http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650
>>
>
> NIMBY
>
> but...but... (sniveling voice) it makes obummer and andrew feel good, so
> it HAS to be GOOD!
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Re: [MBZ] Obamapower

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

"A recent Washington Post

article, however, has revealed that China's booming solar industry is not
as green as one might expect. Many of the solar panels that now adorn
European and American rooftops have left behind a legacy of toxic pollution
in Chinese villages and farmlands.

The Post article describes how Luoyang Zhonggui, a major Chinese
polysilicon manufacturer, is dumping toxic factory waste directly on to the
lands of neighboring villages, killing crops and poisoning residents."
http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5650


NIMBY

but...but... (sniveling voice) it makes obummer and andrew feel good, 
so it HAS to be GOOD!


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Climate Change Wording

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I love Jerry Brown!  “We have a lot of troglodytes south of the border,” he
said.  This is a point I have been making on this list, semi-facetiously
but in good humor.

On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I read a post here actually, that had the same wording used for those who
> realize the sun causes climate change. When I first read this I thought it
> was satire...
>
>
> http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-jerry-brown-speech-toronto-climate-change-20150708-story.html
>
> Rick
> Who will probably research brainwashing techniques later today...
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Re: [MBZ] Gee Wagen

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Nothing too good for Mipsie to drive to yoga class and to get her nails 
done!  Those suburban parking lots are a huge terrain challenge!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFPGzrhacKI

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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yabbut who is going to be driving this car and be in a hurry?


Whoever got the back bumper dented.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[WILTON via Mercedes]

ATTABOY.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Randy Bennell" 
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction


Might not have been their fault (did not read the ad so if they said it 
was, I am out of line?).
My poor old mother in law celebrated her 87th yesterday. We went out to 
the hospital where she is in a geriatric rehab program to get her back on 
her feet so she can go back to where she was living.
She fell and broke her elbow a month or more ago and has just had the cast 
off so now she needs some therapy in order to be able to use her walker.


In any event, on our way home after this, last evening, I literally 
"dodged" a bullet. A young fellow driving a late model Dodge van crossed a 
number of lanes at high speed into my lane. I don't know how he missed me.
I saw him coming out of the corner of my eye and hit the brakes and moved 
left as much as I could and he slid into the lane in front of me. I very 
much doubt that he knew I was there until I hit the horn.

Wierd. How does one not see a red F150 Supercrew in daylight???
I am very happy that my truck was not wrecked. My peripheral vision must 
still be good!


RB



On 09/07/2015 8:58 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Older gen obviously knew how to drive.

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On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:



So Gramps put 700k on it without wrecking it, and his descendants 
managed to get

in two crashes using it as a weekend toy?

Mitch.

On July 9, 2015 at 8:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 


wrote:



http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-200d/

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Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage 
check
this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.  
Replaced

the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,


Idiocy?  It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to
replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach.
Front seal, pump seal, etc.  Maybe even consider engine's
rear main seal at that time.  They're all staring right
at you at that point.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT: Climate Change Wording

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I read a post here actually, that had the same wording used for those who 
realize the sun causes climate change. When I first read this I thought it was 
satire...

http://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-pc-jerry-brown-speech-toronto-climate-change-20150708-story.html

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yabbut who is going to be driving this car and be in a hurry?

Dan

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> 
> Older gen knew better how to drive a car like this, which comparatively 
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> 0-60 time of about 30 seconds.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Might not have been their fault (did not read the ad so if they said it 
was, I am out of line?).
My poor old mother in law celebrated her 87th yesterday. We went out to 
the hospital where she is in a geriatric rehab program to get her back 
on her feet so she can go back to where she was living.
She fell and broke her elbow a month or more ago and has just had the 
cast off so now she needs some therapy in order to be able to use her 
walker.


In any event, on our way home after this, last evening, I literally 
"dodged" a bullet. A young fellow driving a late model Dodge van crossed 
a number of lanes at high speed into my lane. I don't know how he missed me.
I saw him coming out of the corner of my eye and hit the brakes and 
moved left as much as I could and he slid into the lane in front of me. 
I very much doubt that he knew I was there until I hit the horn.

Wierd. How does one not see a red F150 Supercrew in daylight???
I am very happy that my truck was not wrecked. My peripheral vision must 
still be good!


RB



On 09/07/2015 8:58 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

Older gen obviously knew how to drive.

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On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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So Gramps put 700k on it without wrecking it, and his descendants managed to get
in two crashes using it as a weekend toy?

Mitch.


On July 9, 2015 at 8:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-200d/

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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Older gen knew better how to drive a car like this, which comparatively 
speaking is a dinosaur.  The brakes and steering, although state of the art 
decades ago, would be a real challenge to drivers today, especially with a 0-60 
time of about 30 seconds.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Dimitri via Mercedes]

Older gen obviously knew how to drive. 

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> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> So Gramps put 700k on it without wrecking it, and his descendants managed to 
> get
> in two crashes using it as a weekend toy?
> 
> Mitch.
> 
>> On July 9, 2015 at 8:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-200d/
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Re: [MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

So Gramps put 700k on it without wrecking it, and his descendants managed to get
in two crashes using it as a weekend toy?

Mitch.

> On July 9, 2015 at 8:42 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-200d/

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[MBZ] Nice BAT Auction

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1968-mercedes-benz-200d/

I could see myself driving 

Sent from myself driving this car.very slowly

Dan just love those Finnies

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[MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking

[Ralph Robertson via Mercedes]

I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check
this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking.  Replaced
the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is
leaking.  What are they up against Thanks, Ralph,
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