Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

3/4 of the way done with this job.  Some observations:

Having the engine up in the air makes removing the spark plugs easy-peasey - at 
least on the passenger side.  I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the passenger 
side spark plugs done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down yet and will 
be doing that side’s plugs next.

You definitely have to unbolt the AC compressor to get the driver’s side mount 
out, but it was amazingly easy.  I haven’t put it back yet as the engine is 
still lifted up, but it’s close to the mounting points right now, so lining 
everything up once the engine is lowered shouldn’t be an issue.

Mounts were definitely worn out.  Here’s a picture of the right side mount with 
a new mount:

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0

Despite reports to the contrary, the driver’s side wasn’t bad at all.  Now that 
I have the little 16mm offset wrench (needed for both sides) it’s just a matter 
of breaking loose the top bolt which can be unscrewed by hand for the most 
part.  Lots of gyrations getting the bolt back in, but what I did was get the 
top bolt and heat shield all lined up and then run the bolt into the top of the 
mount.  Get everything on the top side tightened up while there’s space, then 
lower the engine down and the bottom bolt hole lines right up.  If you do one 
side at a time the side that’s anchored maintains the alignment, so you’re not 
moving the engine around trying to get the holes lined up.

All in all, not a bad job.  Some brute force and fiddly stuff getting to the 
top bolts on the mounts, but the rest is pretty straightforward.

I’m going to head out and finish the plugs on the driver’s side and put 
everything back together.  That will be the end of major work that’s necessary 
on this car.  Only thing left to address is the headliner, which is starting to 
droop in the back…grrr.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let us know the tricks to make it easier
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Article For Mitch Haley

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> On August 5, 2017 at 8:14 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mitch wrote:
> > Or for that matter, rent a wedge, borrow a diesel pickup, and get them 
> > myself.
> 
> Where are these?  i.e. where are you going? ...just curious...
> tin.man

If I buy 3 cars in Sacramento at once (not likely unless nobody else bids on 
them), do you want to go on a road trip?

Unfortunately the vast majority of Spark EVs were sold in California, and 
virtually all of the current lease returns are being sold there. 
For Nissan Leaf, it seems like Nissan Financial really, really likes to sell 
them in Portland. I've seen off lease cars with Georgia titles sold there. 

A huge and presumably reliable carrier quoted me $1200 for a car or $2200 for 
two from Sacramento, so it's probably not worth going 4400 miles in a 14mpg 
truck unless I can save freight on 3 cars. 

I've been wondering if I should just go with United Road or subscribe to a load 
board like Central Dispatch and post it up there with a lowball price and see 
who bites. 

Hey, Kaleb, want to haul a tiny car from Sacramento to Michigan for $1200?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] My first welding job and the e300 and the SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So I when out back to the rusty 95 e300 to harvest the rear exhaust for the 
green 95 I started driving. After I pulled it and got it in the shop I 
discovered it was cracked in the same spot as the one it is replacing. I 
decided to try out the HF 220v welder. I got t welded up but it ain't pretty. 
See photo. I then when out to the pile of parts to hunt for an axle shaft. I 
found one that looks right but I suspect it could be for a 126. I won't really 
know until I get the one off the car. After about an hour of getting the 6 
bolts loose from the diff side I removed the big bolt on the outboard side. 
Normally I hit it a couple of times with a bfh and it pops loose, but I could 
not seem to locate it so I used the next biggest one but it did no good. So I'm 
at a stand still till I locate or go get another hammer. I'm afraid I will get 
it out and the one I have will not be the right one. I really do not think this 
is a job I want to do out back on the ground. So, if it's not right I may have 
to look into just buying a new one. Where can you get these? Seemed like there 
used to be a place that had decent quality decent priced ones.

Before I even started this mess I did front and rear pads on the SDL. The first 
wheel I did was the right rear and one of the pistons was jammed and would not 
push back. So I pulled a caliper from the pile of parts and put it back 
together. I did not seem to really loose much of any fluid and did not bleed 
that caliper. The rest went as normal. After getting it back together I have no 
brakes at all. It goes to the floor and after working it a bunch it seems to 
grab a little when it's almost to the floor. So I guess I will have to get a 
helper to pump the pedal while I bleed the brakes. I am not sure if you can do 
it alone with a mitivac and I don't have one of those power bleeder deals.





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Re: [MBZ] 124 incorrect outside temp gauge

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:26:10 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Check the archives. I just posted the thermistor info a month or two
> ago.  I can dig it out when I get home.

I checked the archives.

You mentioned on 19 May 2017 in the thread "E300D Breather Re-Plumb"

Too late.  Done.  I’ll post some pictures of the thermistor
later with an explanation.  Definitely not brain surgery.

but I find no evidence of a later post on the subject. I tried accessing
the email archive by date, but it would only to back to 17 June 2017. A
later email does not show up with the word "thermistor".


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] My first welding job and the e300 and the SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's been a while I could not remember if mitivac worked with abs or not. I 
have 2 or 3 of them, but can't find the stupid hoses and the reservoir that 
goes with it. Will probably buy a new set.

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 7:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Yes, any air in the system will render it worthless.
> 
> Yes, you can use the mityvac solo to bleed the brakes - just watch the
> reservoir level.
> 
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I can't imagine just the right rear needing to be bleed will affect the
>> whole system. Maybe so.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just gravity bleed it.  Fill reservoir, attach drain line to right rear
>> caliper bleeder and direct into can, let it bleed while keeping the
>> reservoir full.  Takes some time, watch the drip drip until no more sure
>> bubbles coming out, close bleeder.
>>> 
>>> Don't forget the rear compartment of the reservoir.
>>> --
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>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] My first welding job and the e300 and the SDL

[OK Don via Mercedes]

IIRC, only the gravity method doesn't work with ABS. You should build one
of the pressure bleeders from a small pump-up sprayer. It's cheap and works
great.
Someone here posted the instructions years ago - - -

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 7:17 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's been a while I could not remember if mitivac worked with abs or not.
> I have 2 or 3 of them, but can't find the stupid hoses and the reservoir
> that goes with it. Will probably buy a new set.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 5, 2017, at 7:03 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, any air in the system will render it worthless.
> >
> > Yes, you can use the mityvac solo to bleed the brakes - just watch the
> > reservoir level.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I can't imagine just the right rear needing to be bleed will affect the
> >> whole system. Maybe so.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Just gravity bleed it.  Fill reservoir, attach drain line to right rear
> >> caliper bleeder and direct into can, let it bleed while keeping the
> >> reservoir full.  Takes some time, watch the drip drip until no more sure
> >> bubbles coming out, close bleeder.
> >>>
> >>> Don't forget the rear compartment of the reservoir.
> >>> --
> >>> Max Dillon
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>> '87 300TD
> >>> '95 E300
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> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
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> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Article For Mitch Haley

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Mitch,

If you’re serious about a car transporter contact me off list for a broker I 
have used several times with excellent results.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:08 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> If I buy 3 cars in Sacramento at once (not likely unless nobody else bids on 
> them), do you want to go on a road trip?
> 
> Unfortunately the vast majority of Spark EVs were sold in California, and 
> virtually all of the current lease returns are being sold there. 
> For Nissan Leaf, it seems like Nissan Financial really, really likes to sell 
> them in Portland. I've seen off lease cars with Georgia titles sold there. 
> 
> A huge and presumably reliable carrier quoted me $1200 for a car or $2200 for 
> two from Sacramento, so it's probably not worth going 4400 miles in a 14mpg 
> truck unless I can save freight on 3 cars. 
> 
> I've been wondering if I should just go with United Road or subscribe to a 
> load board like Central Dispatch and post it up there with a lowball price 
> and see who bites. 
> 
> Hey, Kaleb, want to haul a tiny car from Sacramento to Michigan for $1200?
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] My first welding job and the e300 and the SDL

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Just gravity bleed it.  Fill reservoir, attach drain line to right rear caliper 
bleeder and direct into can, let it bleed while keeping the reservoir full.  
Takes some time, watch the drip drip until no more sure bubbles coming out, 
close bleeder.

Don't forget the rear compartment of the reservoir.
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Re: [MBZ] My first welding job and the e300 and the SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I can't imagine just the right rear needing to be bleed will affect the whole 
system. Maybe so.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Just gravity bleed it.  Fill reservoir, attach drain line to right rear 
> caliper bleeder and direct into can, let it bleed while keeping the reservoir 
> full.  Takes some time, watch the drip drip until no more sure bubbles coming 
> out, close bleeder.
> 
> Don't forget the rear compartment of the reservoir.
> -- 
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> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] My first welding job and the e300 and the SDL

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Yes, any air in the system will render it worthless.

Yes, you can use the mityvac solo to bleed the brakes - just watch the
reservoir level.

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 6:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I can't imagine just the right rear needing to be bleed will affect the
> whole system. Maybe so.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 5, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Just gravity bleed it.  Fill reservoir, attach drain line to right rear
> caliper bleeder and direct into can, let it bleed while keeping the
> reservoir full.  Takes some time, watch the drip drip until no more sure
> bubbles coming out, close bleeder.
> >
> > Don't forget the rear compartment of the reservoir.
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Article For Mitch Haley

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Mitch wrote:
> Or for that matter, rent a wedge, borrow a diesel pickup, and get them myself.

Where are these?  i.e. where are you going? ...just curious...
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] 124 incorrect outside temp gauge

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Good because I need to do it on a couple of cars

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 7:17 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 08:26:10 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Check the archives. I just posted the thermistor info a month or two
>> ago.  I can dig it out when I get home.
> 
> I checked the archives.
> 
> You mentioned on 19 May 2017 in the thread "E300D Breather Re-Plumb"
> 
>Too late.  Done.  I’ll post some pictures of the thermistor
>later with an explanation.  Definitely not brain surgery.
> 
> but I find no evidence of a later post on the subject. I tried accessing
> the email archive by date, but it would only to back to 17 June 2017. A
> later email does not show up with the word "thermistor".
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Article For Mitch Haley

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sounds fishy. Is his name Guido?

On Aug 5, 2017 9:38 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Mitch,
>
> If you’re serious about a car transporter contact me off list for a broker
> I have used several times with excellent results.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:08 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > If I buy 3 cars in Sacramento at once (not likely unless nobody else
> bids on them), do you want to go on a road trip?
> >
> > Unfortunately the vast majority of Spark EVs were sold in California,
> and virtually all of the current lease returns are being sold there.
> > For Nissan Leaf, it seems like Nissan Financial really, really likes to
> sell them in Portland. I've seen off lease cars with Georgia titles sold
> there.
> >
> > A huge and presumably reliable carrier quoted me $1200 for a car or
> $2200 for two from Sacramento, so it's probably not worth going 4400 miles
> in a 14mpg truck unless I can save freight on 3 cars.
> >
> > I've been wondering if I should just go with United Road or subscribe to
> a load board like Central Dispatch and post it up there with a lowball
> price and see who bites.
> >
> > Hey, Kaleb, want to haul a tiny car from Sacramento to Michigan for
> $1200?
> >
> > Mitch.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.

-D

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 1:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 12:58:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the passenger side spark plugs
>> done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down yet and will be doing
>> that side’s plugs next.
> 
> I take it the engine is a V-6 and not an inline-6 like the M104.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

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> On August 5, 2017 at 3:46 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Done.  The driver’s side spark plugs were pretty easy, even easier than the 
> passenger side

There's 12 of them?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

100k.  The plugs in my engine were the original plugs from what I can tell.  I 
have roughly 93k on the clock.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:08:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.
> 
> OH! That's a lot of plugs to change! How often do you have to do it?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, this is the 2002 E320 (W210) sedan.

-D

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 3:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On August 5, 2017 at 2:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.
> 
> I guess I should have read all the messages before posting. 
> So this is the W210? I was thinking W124, and was slightly confused because I 
> thought a 124 took 6 plugs in the top. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Does Esh/Knoble need a 126?

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Too much rust and too many miles for me. 

Michael E. Esh


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> registration. 
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 14:08:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.

OH! That's a lot of plugs to change! How often do you have to do it?


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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

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> On August 5, 2017 at 2:08 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> M112.  V6 with 12 plugs.

I guess I should have read all the messages before posting. 
So this is the W210? I was thinking W124, and was slightly confused because I 
thought a 124 took 6 plugs in the top. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

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Let us know the tricks to make it easier

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 10:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Whew!
> 
> Just got the right (easy) side done.  Not pleasant, but at least now I know 
> what I’ve got to do to make the left side easier.  Time for lunch and then 
> heading out to do the left side mount and plugs.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
>> 
>> ….new motor mounts?
>> 
>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0
>> 
>> Doing the spark plugs while the engine is jacked up.  The plugs appear to be 
>> the originals.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They all droop in the back

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 11:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 3/4 of the way done with this job.  Some observations:
> 
> Having the engine up in the air makes removing the spark plugs easy-peasey - 
> at least on the passenger side.  I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the 
> passenger side spark plugs done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down 
> yet and will be doing that side’s plugs next.
> 
> You definitely have to unbolt the AC compressor to get the driver’s side 
> mount out, but it was amazingly easy.  I haven’t put it back yet as the 
> engine is still lifted up, but it’s close to the mounting points right now, 
> so lining everything up once the engine is lowered shouldn’t be an issue.
> 
> Mounts were definitely worn out.  Here’s a picture of the right side mount 
> with a new mount:
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0
> 
> Despite reports to the contrary, the driver’s side wasn’t bad at all.  Now 
> that I have the little 16mm offset wrench (needed for both sides) it’s just a 
> matter of breaking loose the top bolt which can be unscrewed by hand for the 
> most part.  Lots of gyrations getting the bolt back in, but what I did was 
> get the top bolt and heat shield all lined up and then run the bolt into the 
> top of the mount.  Get everything on the top side tightened up while there’s 
> space, then lower the engine down and the bottom bolt hole lines right up.  
> If you do one side at a time the side that’s anchored maintains the 
> alignment, so you’re not moving the engine around trying to get the holes 
> lined up.
> 
> All in all, not a bad job.  Some brute force and fiddly stuff getting to the 
> top bolts on the mounts, but the rest is pretty straightforward.
> 
> I’m going to head out and finish the plugs on the driver’s side and put 
> everything back together.  That will be the end of major work that’s 
> necessary on this car.  Only thing left to address is the headliner, which is 
> starting to droop in the back…grrr.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Let us know the tricks to make it easier
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

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On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 12:58:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I’ve gotten both mounts swapped and the passenger side spark plugs
> done.  I haven’t lowered the driver’s side down yet and will be doing
> that side’s plugs next.

I take it the engine is a V-6 and not an inline-6 like the M104.


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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Done.  The driver’s side spark plugs were pretty easy, even easier than the 
passenger side, mainly because having the engine raised up made it possible to 
get directly on them with a socket and not have to worry about universals or 
wobbly extensions.

AC compressor went right back on, took maybe all of five minutes to get it back 
in place and the belt and tensioner back to normal.

The car runs amazingly smooth now.  You can’t even feel the engine at idle.

While this wasn’t a small job, it wasn’t bad.  Glad that I was able to 
incorporate the two jobs together, as it made it a lot easier.

I still have to change the fuel filter, but I’ll do that tomorrow if I feel 
like it.  I’m pretty sure it’s the original as well.

-D


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[MBZ] Wiped up the OM617

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

Yesterday I picked up a Uhaul van and picked up the rest of the past that came 
with Allen. Getting the spare engine/trans into the van was a huge PITA due to 
them not being separated. The very warm weather did not make it any better, and 
trying to drive an unknown vehicle loaded up with near max weight was 
entertaining. 

I was able to lasso a neighbor into assisting in getting the package out of the 
van and drug across the road and up the driveway. I had to purchase the cheapo 
harbour fright one ton hoist and a pair of el cheapo appliance moving critter 
things. I chose the super deluxe steel enforced over the wood. 

Getting the motor into the van was a chore, as the arm was higher than the door 
opening. We had to mess about lowering and shifting the thing to get it in, 
then unhook and hook back with the arm inside. Coming out was less extreme. The 
motor had tipped over and getting upright was interesting. I was able to get 
the arm just under the door and tipped the engine over so it would sort of 
spill out. 

I then had to make a magic rope hooked to my deck which overhangs the garage 
door. Two of the cheep chinee ratchet straps and a come along did the trick. 
Sadly the come along was only 36" worth of cable, so much adjustments were made 
to get the thing across the street and up the drive to flat ground. All the 
while the motor is swinging and swaying on the hoist as it gets hung up on 
every dang pebble and bump. 

Once on flat land, I slid this 1000# moving dolly under the motor and lower it. 
First drop was not good, so pump it up and try again. Second drop looked great. 
Lowered it just right so that the oil pan and the trans pan are both on the 
dolly. Drop the arm a bit more so the motor settles, and the crap dolly 
explodes. Cheeppy recycled plastic shatters and the "steel" box support twists 
and contorts. Wasted $20 on these things. At least I can salvage the casters. 

At this point we give up and just let it hang on the hoist. Job is "done" so 
time for beers to cool off. When the sun went lower and temps dropped I grabbed 
a bottle of Dollar Store LA Amazzzing cleaner and begin scrubbing the 
accumulated filth off the engine. It took the whole bottle, but on the whole, 
it looks quite nice. Missing injectors, some throttle rods, hoses and small 
things. Probably good enough for the guy who wants to toss it into his mudder 
truck. I had been thinking maybe and SLC. 

clay 
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Re: [MBZ] Wiped up the OM617

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Next time, buy some 4x4 lumber and cut pieces that will go across the
engine lift.
Rotate the engine / trans so you can let the lift down and rest the
engine/trans on the legs of the lift while just enough "tension" on the
lifting chain [or nylon rope, if you use that instead] to keep the engine
upright and centered on the 4x4 cross pieces.

If you need more stability for this "load" tie some rope to the top of the
engine [what ever you can find that is solid, and to the legs of the hoist
using truckers knots to pull it up tight.

The whole load will then travel where ever you want to take it using the
engine hoist as the "engine dolly"..

Tip... sweep the drive to remove any rocks or chips that will cause the
wheels to stop rolling... before you start to move the load.

If you need to do it "alone" use something to chock the wheels on the
engine hoist while you reset the come along for each "pull".

I have done this more times than I can count.. suggest, next time.. rent a
pickup truck, and back it up to the garage to unload as close as possible.

This is why I now own a 12,000 lb fork lift.. ;)) BTDT

On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:19 PM, redghost--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yesterday I picked up a Uhaul van and picked up the rest of the past that
> came with Allen. Getting the spare engine/trans into the van was a huge
> PITA due to them not being separated. The very warm weather did not make it
> any better, and trying to drive an unknown vehicle loaded up with near max
> weight was entertaining.
>
> I was able to lasso a neighbor into assisting in getting the package out
> of the van and drug across the road and up the driveway. I had to purchase
> the cheapo harbour fright one ton hoist and a pair of el cheapo appliance
> moving critter things. I chose the super deluxe steel enforced over the
> wood.
>
> Getting the motor into the van was a chore, as the arm was higher than the
> door opening. We had to mess about lowering and shifting the thing to get
> it in, then unhook and hook back with the arm inside. Coming out was less
> extreme. The motor had tipped over and getting upright was interesting. I
> was able to get the arm just under the door and tipped the engine over so
> it would sort of spill out.
>
> I then had to make a magic rope hooked to my deck which overhangs the
> garage door. Two of the cheep chinee ratchet straps and a come along did
> the trick. Sadly the come along was only 36" worth of cable, so much
> adjustments were made to get the thing across the street and up the drive
> to flat ground. All the while the motor is swinging and swaying on the
> hoist as it gets hung up on every dang pebble and bump.
>
> Once on flat land, I slid this 1000# moving dolly under the motor and
> lower it. First drop was not good, so pump it up and try again. Second drop
> looked great. Lowered it just right so that the oil pan and the trans pan
> are both on the dolly. Drop the arm a bit more so the motor settles, and
> the crap dolly explodes. Cheeppy recycled plastic shatters and the "steel"
> box support twists and contorts. Wasted $20 on these things. At least I can
> salvage the casters.
>
> At this point we give up and just let it hang on the hoist. Job is "done"
> so time for beers to cool off. When the sun went lower and temps dropped I
> grabbed a bottle of Dollar Store LA Amazzzing cleaner and begin scrubbing
> the accumulated filth off the engine. It took the whole bottle, but on the
> whole, it looks quite nice. Missing injectors, some throttle rods, hoses
> and small things. Probably good enough for the guy who wants to toss it
> into his mudder truck. I had been thinking maybe and SLC.
>
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[MBZ] What Idiot...

[redghost--- via Mercedes]

... decided that the w201 need to have the high side port hidden under all 
manner of inaccessible hoses and hot things? 

Neighbor has recently been having me look at his benz cars. I was able to help 
with the W210 issues that were rather simple. He has a '90 201 that has not had 
AC for a while and the radio (Becker ) is not making nice sounds out of the 
speakers. Radio works fine from what I was able to see. It finds stations, 
switches to WB and plays tapes. Just has crap for sound. Fader was replaced, as 
was the radio at one time. Never played well since. I removed the fader and 
gave it some needed contact cleaner. That did not make it notably better 
sounding. It was too hot to remove the speakers, but that would have required 
pulling the cluster. 

As for the AC, I was trying to at least pull a vacuum and see if it would hold. 
My paws are just too huge to get access to the high side port under all the 
hoses and hot engine. There was no way to screw on the manifold hose. I had low 
side, but an hour of poking around just could not line up the hose. Are the 
cars just meant to have a single charge? I could have tried a vacuum on the low 
side, and then just charge without knowing if the high would hold. 

clay 
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[MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up with water 
after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door seal which was 
worn and a replacement included with the car when I bought it.

I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not missing 
anything:

Sunroof drain
Condensate line from AC

Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else I need to 
look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals well, can water 
still get in?

Thanks,

-D


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[MBZ] Nice 84 300SD for Kaleb

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://mercedesheritage.com/classified/show-ad?id=169

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Nice 84 300SD for Kaleb

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Nice!  What is that extra pink wiring and the silver module in the engine bay, 
on the driver side fender?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 5, 2017 5:33:36 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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>https://mercedesheritage.com/classified/show-ad?id=169
>
>-D
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[MBZ] The James Island Kleb

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I should get to know this guy

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/83-mercedes-diesel/6250388580.html

--R


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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Right fender liner, stud for holding liner on the outside face of the foot 
well.  Pull the liner and check this area for rust.  That is where my '87 wagon 
rusted through and allows water to get in.

I had that patched and it held for about a year, but now it is leaking again.

The cowl drain discharges right onto this stud, which eventually (rust never 
sleeps) will hole the body.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 5, 2017 5:38:08 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up with
>water after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door
>seal which was worn and a replacement included with the car when I
>bought it.
>
>I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not
>missing anything:
>
>Sunroof drain
>Condensate line from AC
>
>Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else I
>need to look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals
>well, can water still get in?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-D
>
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Scratch that, I was reading passenger, you wrote driver foot well.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On August 5, 2017 9:12:34 AM EDT, Max Dillon  wrote:
>Right fender liner, stud for holding liner on the outside face of the
>foot well.  Pull the liner and check this area for rust.  That is where
>my '87 wagon rusted through and allows water to get in.
>
>I had that patched and it held for about a year, but now it is leaking
>again.
>
>The cowl drain discharges right onto this stud, which eventually (rust
>never sleeps) will hole the body.
>-- 
>Max Dillon
>Charleston SC
>'87 300TD
>'95 E300
>
>On August 5, 2017 5:38:08 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up
>with
>>water after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door
>>seal which was worn and a replacement included with the car when I
>>bought it.
>>
>>I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not
>>missing anything:
>>
>>Sunroof drain
>>Condensate line from AC
>>
>>Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else
>I
>>need to look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals
>>well, can water still get in?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>-D
>>
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[MBZ] Article For Mitch Haley

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

https://www.consumerreports.org/2017-chevrolet-bolt/chevrolet-bolt-sets-electric-vehicle-range-record/

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but also 
check for a leaking windshield.
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

How will the leaking windshield be identified?  Is there a particular area I 
should look closely at to see?

Thanks, everyone.  I’ll make a list and get out the garden hose.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:36 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Probably the same thing on the left side.  I'd vote cowl drain too, but also 
> check for a leaking windshield.
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[MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

….new motor mounts?

http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0

Doing the spark plugs while the engine is jacked up.  The plugs appear to be 
the originals.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Nice 84 300SD for Kaleb

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Crack

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 4:33 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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Re: [MBZ] 95 E300D W124 Water in Footwell

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Maybe you have a hole in the firewall allowing water in.

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> On Aug 5, 2017, at 4:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Eldest son tells me that his driver’s footwell is still filling up with water 
> after torrential rains.  We recently replaced the driver’s door seal which 
> was worn and a replacement included with the car when I bought it.
> 
> I wanted to run by possible sources to check to make sure I’m not missing 
> anything:
> 
> Sunroof drain
> Condensate line from AC
> 
> Can I be getting water in from the cowl or windshield?  Anyplace else I need 
> to look for possible intrusion points?  Even if the sunroof seals well, can 
> water still get in?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Article For Mitch Haley

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On August 5, 2017 at 9:14 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.consumerreports.org/2017-chevrolet-bolt/chevrolet-bolt-sets-electric-vehicle-range-record/

Hmm, not as efficient as a Spark, 3x the battery, more than twice the charge 
rate (7.6kW for Bolt, 3.3kW for Spark, the two biggest Spark drawbacks for me 
are the 15A onboard 240v charger and the fact that it's based on a low end 
Korean subcompact with mediocre aerodynamics)

I found a salvage Spark with no serious body damage, car shut down, $9500 
estimated repair cost. What idiot totaled the car instead of taking it to a 
dealer and making GM fix it while it had a warranty? Unless it's a flood car 
and for some reason didn't get a flood label on the title, I just don't get it. 
My salvage dealer looked at it and said "I smell a rat".

There are 3 2015s up for auction next week. Maybe I should buy all three and 
become a used EV dealer. I can keep the one I like the best, and pay for half 
of it by selling the other two. Maybe hire a hotshotter with a 2-3 car wedge 
instead of using a regular car hauler. Or for that matter, rent a wedge, borrow 
a diesel pickup, and get them myself. 

Mitch.

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[MBZ] ML with big brakes for Mrs Poos?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

https://lansing.craigslist.org/ctd/d/2010-mercedes-benz-ml-63-suv/6249397201.html

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[MBZ] Does Esh/Knoble need a 126?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

1983 is the last year to escape annual property tax on Michigan car 
registration. 
https://lansing.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-300sd-turbo/6213349175.html

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Re: [MBZ] Think the E320 Needed...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Whew!

Just got the right (easy) side done.  Not pleasant, but at least now I know 
what I’ve got to do to make the left side easier.  Time for lunch and then 
heading out to do the left side mount and plugs.

-D


> On Aug 5, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> ….new motor mounts?
> 
> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0
> 
> Doing the spark plugs while the engine is jacked up.  The plugs appear to be 
> the originals.
> 
> -D


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