Re: [MBZ] W108 heater levers - disconnecting tips?
However long this job takes you, you will be more than amply rewarded when you drive along at night and see the multicolored lights in the center of the dash. Truly glorious. On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 9:01 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm glad my instructions are useful! > > As for the clips, there are two... the C shaped clips that hold the cable > housing to the lever assembly can be removed with your fingers or a flat > head screwdriver. They will go flying so be careful. > > The second clips are the ones that hold the cables to the levers - the > castelled washers, can just be pried off with a small screw driver. > They'll also go flying if you're not careful. > > The outer cables for the lower levers are different - you need to access a > philips head screw from above in order to release the cables. I assume I > talked about this in the instructions on my site (which I wrote 20 years > ago, so I don't remember). > > As for any parts that might go flying, you can order them from the classic > center. Its best a send a photo of what you need. There are many many > different variants of these levers and cables and I'm always surprised when > I find another version. > > I suspect a new blower motor is in your future. The one in my 4.5 recently > died and I need to replace it also. Its not as terrible of a job as the > internet would lead you to believe. There are more difficult jobs, for > sure. > > Good luck > Jaime > > > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 7:35 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I'm finally addressing the ventilation system on my W108 280SEL 4.5. > > > > Months ago the fan stopped, with resultant stream of smoke. Today I > removed > > the cowl and cabin filters (ordered new ones from MB) and reached in to > > turn the motor. It is VERY stiff, but less so now. Drenched it in ATF and > > will let it sit. > > > > While I'm at it, years ago I ordered new control levers and this seems > like > > the right time to install them so that I can actually regulate the fan > > speed, for example. > > > > So I followed Jaime's excellent instructions and I am now at the > > "disconnecting" stage. Is there any advice apart from not losing clips > and > > so on? I'm guessing the castellated washers or whatever they're called > that > > grip the shaft are simply something one squeezes to release, or am I in > for > > a struggle? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > D. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Airshow Crash
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Re: [MBZ] W108 heater levers - disconnecting tips?
I'm glad my instructions are useful! As for the clips, there are two... the C shaped clips that hold the cable housing to the lever assembly can be removed with your fingers or a flat head screwdriver. They will go flying so be careful. The second clips are the ones that hold the cables to the levers - the castelled washers, can just be pried off with a small screw driver. They'll also go flying if you're not careful. The outer cables for the lower levers are different - you need to access a philips head screw from above in order to release the cables. I assume I talked about this in the instructions on my site (which I wrote 20 years ago, so I don't remember). As for any parts that might go flying, you can order them from the classic center. Its best a send a photo of what you need. There are many many different variants of these levers and cables and I'm always surprised when I find another version. I suspect a new blower motor is in your future. The one in my 4.5 recently died and I need to replace it also. Its not as terrible of a job as the internet would lead you to believe. There are more difficult jobs, for sure. Good luck Jaime On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 7:35 PM David Bruckmann via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'm finally addressing the ventilation system on my W108 280SEL 4.5. > > Months ago the fan stopped, with resultant stream of smoke. Today I removed > the cowl and cabin filters (ordered new ones from MB) and reached in to > turn the motor. It is VERY stiff, but less so now. Drenched it in ATF and > will let it sit. > > While I'm at it, years ago I ordered new control levers and this seems like > the right time to install them so that I can actually regulate the fan > speed, for example. > > So I followed Jaime's excellent instructions and I am now at the > "disconnecting" stage. Is there any advice apart from not losing clips and > so on? I'm guessing the castellated washers or whatever they're called that > grip the shaft are simply something one squeezes to release, or am I in for > a struggle? > > Thanks in advance, > > D. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NO calls about vin...CHECK IT YOUR SELF - 2006 E350 - 135k miles - $2, 995
He know what he got. On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, at 19:55, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Well there you go. CHECKED IT YOURSELF!!! > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Nov 12, 2022, at 7:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yep, at least according to Mercedes Medic: >> >> Mercedes-Benz with the improved parts have engine serial numbers that are >> higher than: >> >>M272 Engine Serial No. 2729..30 468993 >>M273 Engine Serial No. 2739..30 088611 >> >> >> >> >>> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, at 19:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >>> Bad? >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> > On Nov 12, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: I'll save you the trouble: Engine 272964 30 236112 https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/markham-2006-mercedes-e350/7556802497.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NO calls about vin...CHECK IT YOUR SELF - 2006 E350 - 135k miles - $2, 995
Well there you go. CHECKED IT YOURSELF!!! --FT Sent from iFōn > On Nov 12, 2022, at 7:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yep, at least according to Mercedes Medic: > > Mercedes-Benz with the improved parts have engine serial numbers that are > higher than: > >M272 Engine Serial No. 2729..30 468993 >M273 Engine Serial No. 2739..30 088611 > > > > >> On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, at 19:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >> Bad? >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Nov 12, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I'll save you the trouble: >>> >>> Engine 272964 30 236112 >>> >>> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/markham-2006-mercedes-e350/7556802497.html >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This seems more appropriate for a hood stack
Starts and dies. $3k. Yeah right --FT Sent from iFōn > On Nov 12, 2022, at 7:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/473311811532680/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NO calls about vin...CHECK IT YOUR SELF - 2006 E350 - 135k miles - $2, 995
Yep, at least according to Mercedes Medic: Mercedes-Benz with the improved parts have engine serial numbers that are higher than: M272 Engine Serial No. 2729..30 468993 M273 Engine Serial No. 2739..30 088611 On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, at 19:39, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Bad? > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Nov 12, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I'll save you the trouble: >> >> Engine 272964 30 236112 >> >> https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/markham-2006-mercedes-e350/7556802497.html >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W108 heater levers - disconnecting tips?
On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 16:34:59 -0800 David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote: > So I followed Jaime's excellent instructions and I am now at the > "disconnecting" stage. Is there any advice apart from not losing clips > and so on? I'm guessing the castellated washers or whatever they're > called that grip the shaft are simply something one squeezes to > release, or am I in for a struggle? Usually you are in for a struggle, but those don't quite look like the "quick push on with tangs pointing backwards" clips I have seen before. The clips I have seen before do not squeeze to release; I am not sure, from the photograph's perspective exactly how your clips work. A picture from the bottom of looking up at the free end of the short "rod" on which the clips are pushed would be helpful. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NO calls about vin...CHECK IT YOUR SELF - 2006 E350 - 135k miles - $2, 995
Bad? --FT Sent from iFōn > On Nov 12, 2022, at 7:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'll save you the trouble: > > Engine 272964 30 236112 > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/markham-2006-mercedes-e350/7556802497.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NO calls about vin...CHECK IT YOUR SELF - 2006 E350 - 135k miles - $2, 995
I'll save you the trouble: Engine 272964 30 236112 https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/markham-2006-mercedes-e350/7556802497.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This seems more appropriate for a hood stack
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[MBZ] MMM
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[MBZ] PRICE FIRM don’t ask me about it - 2008 C350 - 35k miles - $17,000
Good luck with that on a 14 year old car. https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/northbrook-low-miles-35k-clean-title/7556758785.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2009 ML350 BlueTec - 147k miles - $11,900
Boring colors but looks pretty nice otherwise. No tow hitch though. https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/carol-stream-2009-mercedes-ml-350/7556704808.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 400E work
I put a new throttle cable on today and went to adjust it per the procedure. This car supposedly has ASR per the build sheet and the idiot light for it is on. But the ASR actuator stuff on the throttle linkage is not there. Most curious. I’m waiting on all the intake manifold hoses and connectors and such. It won’t idle and is running very rich. I’m hoping that stuff fixes that aspect. The new throttle cable actually controls the engine speed better, the old one was broken at the engine end and there was a lock washer to hold it in the lever so it was not working very well --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
On 2022-11-12 08:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: You would have to find a way to gain control of the systems, as they’re already screwing people over on resales where they disable options when the car changes owners. That being the case, you’re pretty much at Elon’s mercy unless you find a way to gain control. That or be able to disable updates, which introduces a whole ‘nother bunch of issues. I wonder what the car does if it can't contact the internet for years in a row? Antennas are usually easy to find and disable. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
That could work in theory but refueling infrastructure is too sparse in most areas, which is also one of the problems that EVs have. On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, at 15:27, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > How about natural gas instead? > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 2:46 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: >> > I can see long haul trucks going hydrogen fuel cell for more range. >> >> I think long haul trucks will stay with diesel for the forseeable future. No >> electric technology is close to feasible for pulling 80,000 lbs for 10+ >> hours at a stretch. >> >> Local deliveries may be another story. Electric may have a role there. >> >> Our local school district has gone all-in on EV buses. I am interested to >> see if they will be able to finish their routes on single-digit-temp January >> mornings. I am guessing that the contract operators on the longer routes >> that run into rural areas will stay with diesel. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
Locomotives are all electric. Hydrogen recombines back into water while releasing electricity very nicely. The problem is that generating hydrogen isn't particularly efficient. If the problem of producing hydrogen could be solved it'd be handier than batteries although even more dangerous. Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 2:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > I can see long haul trucks going hydrogen fuel cell for more range. I think long haul trucks will stay with diesel for the forseeable future. No electric technology is close to feasible for pulling 80,000 lbs for 10+ hours at a stretch. Local deliveries may be another story. Electric may have a role there. Our local school district has gone all-in on EV buses. I am interested to see if they will be able to finish their routes on single-digit-temp January mornings. I am guessing that the contract operators on the longer routes that run into rural areas will stay with diesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
How about natural gas instead? On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 2:46 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I can see long haul trucks going hydrogen fuel cell for more range. > > I think long haul trucks will stay with diesel for the forseeable future. > No electric technology is close to feasible for pulling 80,000 lbs for 10+ > hours at a stretch. > > Local deliveries may be another story. Electric may have a role there. > > Our local school district has gone all-in on EV buses. I am interested to > see if they will be able to finish their routes on single-digit-temp > January mornings. I am guessing that the contract operators on the longer > routes that run into rural areas will stay with diesel. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
> I can see long haul trucks going hydrogen fuel cell for more range. I think long haul trucks will stay with diesel for the forseeable future. No electric technology is close to feasible for pulling 80,000 lbs for 10+ hours at a stretch. Local deliveries may be another story. Electric may have a role there. Our local school district has gone all-in on EV buses. I am interested to see if they will be able to finish their routes on single-digit-temp January mornings. I am guessing that the contract operators on the longer routes that run into rural areas will stay with diesel. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
I think the battery packs will limit the usability of old EVs. They are a LOT more complex and expensive than you'd think. This guy talks about the battery and charging it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDfV47il5mg He swapped a Tesla powertrain and running gear into a 1950 Jag sedan. There was a video of some guy flinging his used Tesla via trebuchet when he found that a replacement battery was far more than his car was worth. On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 7:37 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I wonder if these things will ever get to beater status where you could > buy them cheepcheep and just hoon the hell out of them, or if they will > just suffer massive multiple system failures to where they couldn’t even be > rat rodded. I suppose some cult dudes will figure out how to run them with > raspberry pis controlling basic functions so maybe some hacks will bypass > all the factory nonsense and you could just flog them unmercifully until > they melt down > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On 2022-11-12 07:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >> Yes, thanks, Karl! > >> This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want > >> one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. > > > > > > Yeah. A 3 Performance or any late model S would feel like the > street/strip cars of our youth on drag tires. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you are wearing." "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
Maybe my Hertz Tesla has some sort of sport suspension on it. But why would Hertz do that? It just seems to be very stiffly sprung with limited suspension travel. I have never been in a car that hobby horses over uneven pavement like this thing. Frost heaves are what did Pobst in at Pikes Peak. Johnny Cash's old Rolls was at my upholstery guy's shop a few months back with a whole new electric drivetrain in it. I think that might actually be a better car than this Y thing. I can see a 560 chassis responding well to electric treatment. But the problem with all this hot rod stuff is lack of support. Unless you are a garage hero with electric motors, where do you turn when something acts up, like the heater or AC? Hope to live near the conversion shop I guess. Tesla seems to have pushed the motors and heating/cooling loops for cabin, battery and motors/transmission to very elegant levels of sophistication and efficiency, from what I read anyway. But the majors will close that gap quickly. Toyota just launched an iron lithium battery car in China - totally new tech for cars and no degradation of battery capacity over time with less fire risk apparently. I can see long haul trucks going hydrogen fuel cell for more range. K On Sat, Nov 12, 2022, 9:27 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I drove a Model S a few years ago, I don't remember it handling poorly but > it's the top model car... > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 10:08 AM, Kevin Kraly > wrote: Mercedes content: Our 2019 Sprinter had no tactile buttons or > knobs for radio presets either. However, it did have the capability of > voice activation so I was able to say “Play 98.7 FM,” and it would > immediately obey my command. I could also turn on the seat heater, check > fuel economy instantaneous/average, and probably a few other things. > I did get to experience Tesla acceleration since I got an Uber driver who > was more than happy to show off his new Model III. I got to feel the > dashboard touchscreen since I was able to ride in the front passenger’s > seat before COVID. Go kart ride and handling comments are spot on. > Kevin in Lexington, NC > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 12, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > My new pickup has no tactile buttons for radio presets which is > irritating. At least it has knobs for HVAC... > > > > Curt > > > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 9:03 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: If I'm understanding Karl correctly, my > hate for the touchscreen crap > > has multiplied tenfold. > > Having to take my eyes off the road and focus on a tactile free screen > > to do anything is a safety hazard. > > What pisses me off to no end is when my Chevy puts up a long paragraph > > of verbiage on the screen, and requires me to hit the "OK, I actually > > read all that bullshit while driving" button to bring the radio display > > back up. What's all the verbiage? A warning to not read the damn screen > > while driving!!! > > Makes me want to drive into a tree just so I can sue GM. > > > > But aside from the aforementioned horribly unsafe safety warning, I can > > live with the Chevy. The channel preset buttons are big, you can > > eventually learn approximately where they are, and you're better off > > using the buttons on the back of the steering wheel to just jump up/down > > the channel list anyway. > > > > Having to negotiate levels of menus while driving makes me think the > > best use of the Tesla would be to puncture the batteries, throw it off a > > bridge an enjoy the fireworks when it hits the water. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benzing yesterday
I got the new wheel speed sensor on the ML. Was easier to get at the connector by taking off the wheel well liner. Kinda glad I did, there’s huge amount of crap up behind the lower rear part of the fender I’ll hose out of there. It amazes me the engineers still design these hidden rust inducers. Other than that the front is surprisingly clean, no oil leaks or anything. I’m looking to see just how bad the engine mounts are going to be… If the connector end was a bit easier to get at it would have been a 10min job not counting getting the jack organized and taking off the wheel. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Nov 12, 2022, at 10:51 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Coolant tanks and power steering reservoirs are common sources of leaks on > these and the parts are surprisingly cheap. I’ve got a new reservoir for the > AZ ML350 just for cosmetics but I haven’t swapped it out yet. > > -D > >> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> The overflow nipple on the coolant tank was leaking on the ML500 so I >> ordered a new one (surprisingly inexpensive, $35 I think) and put it on the >> car yesterday. It was not a hard job except for those spring clamps on a >> couple of the hoses that were hard to reach. I think I might put some >> JBWeld on the old one and seal it up, might be a "good" spare to have. >> >> Today is a new LF front wheel speed sensor I think is causing the Holy >> Trinity of error codes BAS ESP ABS >> >> -- >> --FT >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
I drove a Model S a few years ago, I don't remember it handling poorly but it's the top model car... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sat, Nov 12, 2022 at 10:08 AM, Kevin Kraly wrote: Mercedes content: Our 2019 Sprinter had no tactile buttons or knobs for radio presets either. However, it did have the capability of voice activation so I was able to say “Play 98.7 FM,” and it would immediately obey my command. I could also turn on the seat heater, check fuel economy instantaneous/average, and probably a few other things. I did get to experience Tesla acceleration since I got an Uber driver who was more than happy to show off his new Model III. I got to feel the dashboard touchscreen since I was able to ride in the front passenger’s seat before COVID. Go kart ride and handling comments are spot on. Kevin in Lexington, NC Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > My new pickup has no tactile buttons for radio presets which is irritating. > At least it has knobs for HVAC... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 9:03 PM, mitch--- via >Mercedes wrote: If I'm understanding Karl correctly, >my hate for the touchscreen crap > has multiplied tenfold. > Having to take my eyes off the road and focus on a tactile free screen > to do anything is a safety hazard. > What pisses me off to no end is when my Chevy puts up a long paragraph > of verbiage on the screen, and requires me to hit the "OK, I actually > read all that bullshit while driving" button to bring the radio display > back up. What's all the verbiage? A warning to not read the damn screen > while driving!!! > Makes me want to drive into a tree just so I can sue GM. > > But aside from the aforementioned horribly unsafe safety warning, I can > live with the Chevy. The channel preset buttons are big, you can > eventually learn approximately where they are, and you're better off > using the buttons on the back of the steering wheel to just jump up/down > the channel list anyway. > > Having to negotiate levels of menus while driving makes me think the > best use of the Tesla would be to puncture the batteries, throw it off a > bridge an enjoy the fireworks when it hits the water. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Benzing yesterday
Coolant tanks and power steering reservoirs are common sources of leaks on these and the parts are surprisingly cheap. I’ve got a new reservoir for the AZ ML350 just for cosmetics but I haven’t swapped it out yet. -D > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:44 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > The overflow nipple on the coolant tank was leaking on the ML500 so I > ordered a new one (surprisingly inexpensive, $35 I think) and put it on the > car yesterday. It was not a hard job except for those spring clamps on a > couple of the hoses that were hard to reach. I think I might put some JBWeld > on the old one and seal it up, might be a "good" spare to have. > > Today is a new LF front wheel speed sensor I think is causing the Holy > Trinity of error codes BAS ESP ABS > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Benzing yesterday
The overflow nipple on the coolant tank was leaking on the ML500 so I ordered a new one (surprisingly inexpensive, $35 I think) and put it on the car yesterday. It was not a hard job except for those spring clamps on a couple of the hoses that were hard to reach. I think I might put some JBWeld on the old one and seal it up, might be a "good" spare to have. Today is a new LF front wheel speed sensor I think is causing the Holy Trinity of error codes BAS ESP ABS -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] won’t shift past 2nd 1997 Mercedes-Benz e-class E300,$2,000
$500 car Missing front bumper cover but everything else is there. Will trade for a running or core Chevy 6.0. I have the title but not in my name. The guy that it’s titled to lives across the street from me and I can hook you up with him to get it transferred. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3257402741187570 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
Mercedes content: Our 2019 Sprinter had no tactile buttons or knobs for radio presets either. However, it did have the capability of voice activation so I was able to say “Play 98.7 FM,” and it would immediately obey my command. I could also turn on the seat heater, check fuel economy instantaneous/average, and probably a few other things. I did get to experience Tesla acceleration since I got an Uber driver who was more than happy to show off his new Model III. I got to feel the dashboard touchscreen since I was able to ride in the front passenger’s seat before COVID. Go kart ride and handling comments are spot on. Kevin in Lexington, NC Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > My new pickup has no tactile buttons for radio presets which is irritating. > At least it has knobs for HVAC... > > Curt > > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 9:03 PM, mitch--- via > Mercedes wrote: If I'm understanding Karl correctly, > my hate for the touchscreen crap > has multiplied tenfold. > Having to take my eyes off the road and focus on a tactile free screen > to do anything is a safety hazard. > What pisses me off to no end is when my Chevy puts up a long paragraph > of verbiage on the screen, and requires me to hit the "OK, I actually > read all that bullshit while driving" button to bring the radio display > back up. What's all the verbiage? A warning to not read the damn screen > while driving!!! > Makes me want to drive into a tree just so I can sue GM. > > But aside from the aforementioned horribly unsafe safety warning, I can > live with the Chevy. The channel preset buttons are big, you can > eventually learn approximately where they are, and you're better off > using the buttons on the back of the steering wheel to just jump up/down > the channel list anyway. > > Having to negotiate levels of menus while driving makes me think the > best use of the Tesla would be to puncture the batteries, throw it off a > bridge an enjoy the fireworks when it hits the water. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Selling as part of my dad’s estate 2001 Mercedes CLK - $3,000 (West Ashley)
I know he said the top does not work and there are directions to reset the computer but I have not done that yet. May give it a shot today. https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-2001-mercedes-clk/7556562354.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Two For athe Price of one - $4, 500 (Jacksonville) 1981 and 83 Mercedes 380 sl project.
https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/jacksonville-two-for-athe-price-of-one/7556502267.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
My new pickup has no tactile buttons for radio presets which is irritating. At least it has knobs for HVAC... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 9:03 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: If I'm understanding Karl correctly, my hate for the touchscreen crap has multiplied tenfold. Having to take my eyes off the road and focus on a tactile free screen to do anything is a safety hazard. What pisses me off to no end is when my Chevy puts up a long paragraph of verbiage on the screen, and requires me to hit the "OK, I actually read all that bullshit while driving" button to bring the radio display back up. What's all the verbiage? A warning to not read the damn screen while driving!!! Makes me want to drive into a tree just so I can sue GM. But aside from the aforementioned horribly unsafe safety warning, I can live with the Chevy. The channel preset buttons are big, you can eventually learn approximately where they are, and you're better off using the buttons on the back of the steering wheel to just jump up/down the channel list anyway. Having to negotiate levels of menus while driving makes me think the best use of the Tesla would be to puncture the batteries, throw it off a bridge an enjoy the fireworks when it hits the water. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
Yes that’s the key. Need to find some hackers who could reverse engineer the control systems and escape the Elon gulag Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > You would have to find a way to gain control of the systems, as they’re > already screwing people over on resales where they disable options when the > car changes owners. > > That being the case, you’re pretty much at Elon’s mercy unless you find a way > to gain control. That or be able to disable updates, which introduces a whole > ‘nother bunch of issues. > > -D > >> On Nov 12, 2022, at 6:37 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I wonder if these things will ever get to beater status where you could buy >> them cheepcheep and just hoon the hell out of them, or if they will just >> suffer massive multiple system failures to where they couldn’t even be rat >> rodded. I suppose some cult dudes will figure out how to run them with >> raspberry pis controlling basic functions so maybe some hacks will bypass >> all the factory nonsense and you could just flog them unmercifully until >> they melt down >> >> Sent from my iPad >> > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-11-12 07:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, thanks, Karl! > This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want > one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. >>> >>> >>> Yeah. A 3 Performance or any late model S would feel like the street/strip >>> cars of our youth on drag tires. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not a bad deal for a mild hybrid -- 2010 Mercedes-Benz S400H - $13, 995 (Vero Beach, FL)
I’ve been watching CL closely for both Ft. Myers and Naples. Not a lot of stuff, yet. I’m curious to see how sellers are addressing concerns about flood cars. -D > On Nov 12, 2022, at 6:08 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-11-11 21:53, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Make that weeks, buddy. Cars are just starting to come out of SW >> Florida where Ian went through. > > And I'm saying I'm not buying anything with a FL title history until a year > after Ian, assuming there isn't another huge event to reset the one year > waiting period. Unless it's proven to be in good shape with no noticeable > effects for a year after the hurricane, I'm just gonna assume it's a > hurricane car. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
You would have to find a way to gain control of the systems, as they’re already screwing people over on resales where they disable options when the car changes owners. That being the case, you’re pretty much at Elon’s mercy unless you find a way to gain control. That or be able to disable updates, which introduces a whole ‘nother bunch of issues. -D > On Nov 12, 2022, at 6:37 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I wonder if these things will ever get to beater status where you could buy > them cheepcheep and just hoon the hell out of them, or if they will just > suffer massive multiple system failures to where they couldn’t even be rat > rodded. I suppose some cult dudes will figure out how to run them with > raspberry pis controlling basic functions so maybe some hacks will bypass all > the factory nonsense and you could just flog them unmercifully until they > melt down > > Sent from my iPad > >>> On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 2022-11-12 07:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> Yes, thanks, Karl! >>> This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want >>> one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. >> >> >> Yeah. A 3 Performance or any late model S would feel like the street/strip >> cars of our youth on drag tires. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
I wonder if these things will ever get to beater status where you could buy them cheepcheep and just hoon the hell out of them, or if they will just suffer massive multiple system failures to where they couldn’t even be rat rodded. I suppose some cult dudes will figure out how to run them with raspberry pis controlling basic functions so maybe some hacks will bypass all the factory nonsense and you could just flog them unmercifully until they melt down Sent from my iPad > On Nov 12, 2022, at 8:18 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2022-11-12 07:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Yes, thanks, Karl! >> This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want >> one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. > > > Yeah. A 3 Performance or any late model S would feel like the street/strip > cars of our youth on drag tires. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
On 2022-11-12 07:41, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Yes, thanks, Karl! This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. Yeah. A 3 Performance or any late model S would feel like the street/strip cars of our youth on drag tires. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
On 2022-11-11 22:41, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Man the stereo is insane though. Almost makes up for the fact that it handles like a RedBull soap box derby racer. The stereo is good to know. The ride quality is good to know. I knew the mass was high and assumed it would cause handling issues, but I expected a fantastic ride with all that mass. Either the mass is poorly dealt with, or the unsprung mass is high. I forget, are the motors on the chassis or in the hubs? The rest of what you said matches my expectations. Linear acceleration/deceleration like an R/C car, and "computer on wheels". Six years ago, if it was my money, it was going to be a Chevy Spark. The Bolt is like an overweight Spark with more power, more range, and an EV specific chassis. The Spark was sort of the testbed/prototype for the Bolt's drivetrain. And with Bolt current pricing, it's like buying a Spark before GM went crazy dumping Sparks at the end of 2016. I don't know where the dashboard controls on the Bolt fit in between a Spark and a Tesla, I've never actually sat in a Bolt. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Not a bad deal for a mild hybrid -- 2010 Mercedes-Benz S400H - $13, 995 (Vero Beach, FL)
On 2022-11-11 21:53, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Make that weeks, buddy. Cars are just starting to come out of SW Florida where Ian went through. And I'm saying I'm not buying anything with a FL title history until a year after Ian, assuming there isn't another huge event to reset the one year waiting period. Unless it's proven to be in good shape with no noticeable effects for a year after the hurricane, I'm just gonna assume it's a hurricane car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: EV kisses.
Yes, thanks, Karl! This is good to know, never having even sat in a Tesla. Makes me want one even less. Although I would like to experience the acceleration. -D > On Nov 11, 2022, at 9:24 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Great review > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Nov 11, 2022, at 10:42 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Man the stereo is insane though. Almost makes up for the fact that it >> handles like a RedBull soap box derby racer. >> >> View out the front is beautiful. >> >> Climate is controlled very well. >> >> Definitely a computer with wheels and a motor. >> >> It shows little diagrams of everything you are driving by, for no apparent >> reason, as it doesnt seem to do much with the info. It beeps at you when >> the light turns green, which helps you get a text sent at the red light >> without slowing anyone else down, which I am not sure is any kind of >> technical victory but more like enabling an alcoholic. >> >> Unbelievably crappy ride. And it makes some sort of a clunk which sounds >> like a suspension component gone rogue. This has been a known issue with >> some of the early forgings and ball joints. I mean come on - if you are >> going to skimp, do it somewhere else. >> >> Combustion engines definitely save people from themselves. Max torque at >> zero rpm is kind of insane. And pedestrians tend to underestimate your >> speed or think you are farther away than you are because it makes no sound >> speeding up. It slows really fast and intuitively with just the accelerator >> pedal so it moves like something out of the Matrix speeding up and slowing >> down so much more readily and naturally than a gas car. To get a gas car to >> do the same thing, you have to burn immense amounts of gas through gear 1 >> and high rpm, which is not reclaimed with braking and you think "hey I'll >> just take it easy and save some fuel". But it seems free on batteries with >> regen braking, as I am paying squat for the energy. So this is just another >> level of around town speed up and slow down, as I expected but no one >> including me seems ready for the capability of the thing. We are in close >> traffic through Beverly Hills and honestly the car tempts you to do things >> you should not and makes them seem perfectly reasonable. It does not need >> 400 or 700hp or whatever it has. If they get that Aptera thing figured out >> and it has real controls and no gimmicks I would probably prefer it. >> Actually I would prefer a bike maybe with some electric assist, but I >> prefer to live longer than LA traffic would allow, if I can. >> >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Nov 11, 2022, 6:03 PM mitch--- via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> If I'm understanding Karl correctly, my hate for the touchscreen crap >>> has multiplied tenfold. >>> Having to take my eyes off the road and focus on a tactile free screen >>> to do anything is a safety hazard. >>> What pisses me off to no end is when my Chevy puts up a long paragraph >>> of verbiage on the screen, and requires me to hit the "OK, I actually >>> read all that bullshit while driving" button to bring the radio display >>> back up. What's all the verbiage? A warning to not read the damn screen >>> while driving!!! >>> Makes me want to drive into a tree just so I can sue GM. >>> >>> But aside from the aforementioned horribly unsafe safety warning, I can >>> live with the Chevy. The channel preset buttons are big, you can >>> eventually learn approximately where they are, and you're better off >>> using the buttons on the back of the steering wheel to just jump up/down >>> the channel list anyway. >>> >>> Having to negotiate levels of menus while driving makes me think the >>> best use of the Tesla would be to puncture the batteries, throw it off a >>> bridge an enjoy the fireworks when it hits the water. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
