Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
Two words -- Honda Civic. My son, a year ago, freshly married and starting a job paying a salary that is more than I EVER earned per year (and I was mid-level military officer) chose a Honda Civic. Previous vehicle was an Acura Integra. He has NO regrets. Fun, amazingly roomy, economical, and reliable. And very slow depreciation. I tried to talk him into the hybraid, but engineer that he is he pulled out his slide rule, bounced cost against fuel prices (then), and said that it was almost a wash.
[MBZ] More bloody hitch
This is maybe a bit premature, but I think I've just acquired a new Oris hitch that should be way better suited to installation on my wagon than the one I've already got. It'll probably be a couple of months before I actually have the thing in hand and am able to confirm this, but I'd like to anticipate the possibility that I'll be wanting to sell the one I've got. Problem is that I don't know what model it's supposed to fit. The crossmember to which the ball arm attaches is too long to be a boltup fit for my 124TD. The two bolt holes near either end thru which the crossmember attaches to the vehicle are almost exactly 2 apart and the distance between these two pairs is ~41 5/16. Additionally, there's a projection in the middle, where the ball arm attaches, of ~1 3/16 above a straight line between the top of the bolt holes for which my TD makes no provision. I've got a small pdf diagram from the epc for the 210 wagon which most closely resembles what I've got among those for which I've been able to find diagrams; anyone interested enough to want to take a peek under his vehicle let me know I'll send it along. joe
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
LT Don wrote: I tried to talk him into the hybraid, but engineer that he is he pulled out his slide rule, bounced cost against fuel prices (then), and said that it was almost a wash. It's only a wash if you get your batteries for free. $4k for a battery pack in 5 years or so really skews the calculation. Make mine a CRX HF please, 65mpg and only one $30 battery. I saw a 2000 Insight advertised nearby for $6k last week. high miles, the ad said. How much you wanna bet the owner noticed that the battery charge falls off much faster than it used to, checked with the dealer on replacement, and then decided to sell? Remember the GM electric, I believe it was called Impact? If you went to that extreme to optimize a gas engined car of equal performance and range, your fuel economy would be triple digit, maybe even 200mpg, and the cost of the tiny gas engine would be a fraction of the electric stuff.
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
What was that figure on the Federal tax credit? On 8/9/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: I tried to talk him into the hybraid, but engineer that he is he pulled out his slide rule, bounced cost against fuel prices (then), and said that it was almost a wash. It's only a wash if you get your batteries for free. $4k for a battery pack in 5 years or so really skews the calculation. Make mine a CRX HF please, 65mpg and only one $30 battery. I saw a 2000 Insight advertised nearby for $6k last week. high miles, the ad said. How much you wanna bet the owner noticed that the battery charge falls off much faster than it used to, checked with the dealer on replacement, and then decided to sell? Remember the GM electric, I believe it was called Impact? If you went to that extreme to optimize a gas engined car of equal performance and range, your fuel economy would be triple digit, maybe even 200mpg, and the cost of the tiny gas engine would be a fraction of the electric stuff. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Listers, I was shocked today that diesel is now $2.75 here in Phoenix. Regular gas is $2.45. Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD 1986 F250 5.6L Diesel
[MBZ] MBCA show shine
Should you need some heavy Benz lust, hit the regional show and shine up I-5 in Mountlake Terrace this weekend. 10 am at the Nile Country club. I shall be there. RLE
[MBZ] Seattle prices
Today's price for super-unleaded at my card-op station is a stupefying $2.84.9 Then I glanced over at the new biodiesel pump. $3.10.9. As was completing my $35 fillup, a ratty looking '85 300D pulled up to the bio pump. When I commented on the price, he said but I'm not polluting. Maybe so, but neither is my car and his cost per mile is higher than mine. My 19mpg around town is not so okay anymore. RLE
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Paid $2.399 here in Hickory NC today. It took $38.50 to fill... DWS Chuck Landenberger wrote: Listers, I was shocked today that diesel is now $2.75 here in Phoenix. Regular gas is $2.45. Chuck Phoenix, AZ 1980 300SD 1986 F250 5.6L Diesel ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
Yup - I've had to replace regulators on two of my Mercedes - they are the only two I've owned that had manual windows! The electric windows just need switches cleaned/replaced every once in awhile. On 8/9/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, Even manual windows have cranks and regualtors that may break. So there! I have had very little problem with the PW systems on any of the cars that had them. Mercedes electrical stuff is very rugged and dependable. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Diesel was $2.22 and regular gas $2.26 in OKC on the way home tonight. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
Re: [MBZ] Jeep Diesel Liberty article, E55 AMG wagon in CarDriver
What about full size pickups? This really bites if true... I like that Jeep Liberty but I would like to wait a few years before buying one since the price is so much... As for Car Driver giving complaints about the Liberty CRD, those guys are a bunch of (Insert censored words here) pencil pushing writers that majored in English and do not really have a genuine interest in cars and mechanical stuff. They are more interested in stupid do-dads, electronic junk stuck inside the car and the type of leather on the shift knob. -Dan 81 300SD,82 300D, 84 190D In a message dated 8/8/2005 12:56:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DC is planning a production run of some 3400 vehicles/ year, and so far demand has been greater than anticipated. According to CD, probably no more diesel powered cars/trucks will be sold in US in 2007 when the Tier II regulations start.
Re: [MBZ] Ridiculously sweet car
I was at my local benz dealer a few years back and I saw a new 350SD engine sitting in the parts department. I asked them about it, they said it is a factory replacement and cost around $7500. They also said the guy who ordered it for his car had already gone through 2 engines. -Dan In a message dated 8/8/2005 12:33:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I saw one at my mechanics shop the other day. The car was perfect cosmetically, but a push rod had come through the block. That was the second car they had like that, the other was an 83 SD that I bought for a drive line swap. The SDL had about 260K miles on it. the SD about the same. From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/08/08 Mon PM 12:13:24 EDT To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ridiculously sweet car Sunil Hari wrote: I was at Wal-Mart last night and saw a beautiful 350SDL Turbo in the lot - 126 body style, shiny light brown paint, no rust at all, perfect chrome, not a single scratch, perfect leather, shiny tires and BBS wheels. But the odo said 331Kmi on it. First, were these 3.5L engines electronically controlled like they were in the W140's, or were they still mechanically/vacuum driven? Second, is this a complete anomaly, or is this kind of mileage attainable in a 350SDL?
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
David Brodbeck wrote: LT Don wrote: Two words -- Honda Civic. If you can, take one for an extended drive before you decide to buy it. And if you can't, just sit in it for an hour. An hour is a small investment compared to the time you'll be stuck in the thing during its lifetime, or compared with the cost of dumping it to buy something you should have bought in the first place.
Re: [MBZ] Seattle prices
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today's price for super-unleaded at my card-op station is a stupefying $2.84.9 Then I glanced over at the new biodiesel pump. $3.10.9. As was completing my $35 fillup, a ratty looking '85 300D pulled up to the bio pump. When I commented on the price, he said but I'm not polluting. Maybe so, but neither is my car and his cost per mile is higher than mine. Yeah, I used to get B20 in Ann Arbor, where it was the same price as regular diesel, but biodiesel out here is too rich for my blood. Still, I'm glad I got my smog check done before I ran out of the B20 I bought before moving. It sure does seem to smoke less than pure petrodiesel, though I have no side-by-side test results to back that up. I got 3% opacity on the 25 mph loaded test, which has a 20% limit.
[MBZ] Blower motor 350SDL
I just received a new Bosch motor for the blower housing. For some reason it is 2 mm shorter than the original Bosch. With this version you can not install the original lock washer, as when the shaft protruded 2mm out of the fan. Did Bosch find that the lock washer was unnecessary and shortened the shaft or is there another model designed to protrude the 2 mm as the original? My original Bosch motor was 0 130 111 017. The replacement which I presently have ( which is 2 mm shorter- and has Only all 126) is 0 130 111 001. Constantine
Re: [MBZ] R-12
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Mitch, Care to share where you got your information from? Not trying to start a flame war or anything, but ... If R-12 was flammable, then you you need a 20$ hazmat charge to ship any of it. The bottles would be labled with the 4 squares as flammable. The DOT/IMO label for R-12 is NONFLAMMABLE GAS AFAIK it's non-flammable, in that it won't support combustion. R-134 will break down into some nasty components if it's gotten hot enough, however.
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hi I have heard that Toyotas have pretty good seats. Don't know if they are in the Mercedes league. Don't know, I haven't ridden in one. Volvos have awesome seats, though.
Re: [MBZ] Seattle prices
A car running on unleaded will still pollute, it just does not pump out lead as well as all the other nasties. I tried pure bio-diesel but it kept blocking my filters so now I am running B20 and yes it does smoke less and it is better for the injection pump because they are phasing in the new low-sulphur diesel which can affect some injection pumps. Over here the price of B20 is the same as standard diesel, about AU$1.25/litre(I just shut my eyes and hand over the plastic). Hendrik - Original Message - From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Seattle prices [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today's price for super-unleaded at my card-op station is a stupefying $2.84.9 Then I glanced over at the new biodiesel pump. $3.10.9. As was completing my $35 fillup, a ratty looking '85 300D pulled up to the bio pump. When I commented on the price, he said but I'm not polluting. Maybe so, but neither is my car and his cost per mile is higher than mine. Yeah, I used to get B20 in Ann Arbor, where it was the same price as regular diesel, but biodiesel out here is too rich for my blood. Still, I'm glad I got my smog check done before I ran out of the B20 I bought before moving. It sure does seem to smoke less than pure petrodiesel, though I have no side-by-side test results to back that up. I got 3% opacity on the 25 mph loaded test, which has a 20% limit. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 4/08/2005
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:23:41 -0700 Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does look very nice, but the engine compartment pics do evidence some sign of what I take to be road salt related pitting ... Boy, Joe, you sure have a sharp eye. Where exactly do you see the pitting? Thanks, Craig
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
Mitch Haley wrote: What's the modern Subaru system like? My old 1977 wagon differed from the 2WD in: 1. not having fifth gear, the fifth gear shift fork was hooked up to a separate gearshift lever and engaged a driveshaft for the rear wheels. 2. Datsun (Nissan now) 280Z diff in the back, with an extra set of halfshafts. So, the added complexity in that case was three driveshafts and one diff, all rated for far more power than my 1.6L boxermotor ever dreamed of producing, and one extra shift lever. The modern systems are full-time and more complex, but I don't know the details. AFAIK Subaru doesn't sell a 2WD car anymore.
Re: [MBZ] Car advice
Welll, I may have imagined that. I was lookin at the dull grey spots on the sound panel in the second e/c pic, and maybe some slightly suspect spots on the v/c and crossover. Guess where I'm coming from is that to me at least a 15-16 yr old car from that part of the world has just *got* to be suspect. Looks like a better candidate than was the albatross though. :( Flame suit on. joe On 8/9/05, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 9 Aug 2005 10:23:41 -0700 Joe Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It does look very nice, but the engine compartment pics do evidence some sign of what I take to be road salt related pitting ... Boy, Joe, you sure have a sharp eye. Where exactly do you see the pitting? Thanks, Craig ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
gas shot up to 2.29 and diesel has stayed at 2.18. In a day or 2 diesel will be 2.39 or 2.49 probably. LT Don wrote: Gas increased significantly (still a few pennies cheaper than diesel) and diesel stayed at $2.349. On 8/9/05, Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
LoL! Power EQUIPMENT? Does that include the engine? I have heard that automatic 240Ds are murder in traffic. Issit true? Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sort of personality that likes the 240D (such as mine) prefers to have as little power equipment as possible, since that is only one more item to break and need replacement. Or at least that is how I feel. On 8/9/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck, though it seems a little pricey since it has neither PW nor a sunroof.
Re: [MBZ] euro question
this euro is 84. so would it have the 722.4? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Got a 84 300D euro. It appears to have the same tranny setup as the turbos do, is this correct? 123 Euro 300Ds used 722.1 (early) or 722.4 (late) series transmissions, 300D turbos used 722.3 series transmissions (except the '85 California certified 300D turbos that used a 722.4 tranny). Marshall -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes electrical...
Andrew said Mercedes electrical stuff is very rugged and dependable. Careful Andrew...a few more comments like that and we'll have to insist on a drug test for you...GRIN Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
[MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars
Is this why the ML's have such a sorry record??? Least Competent People Citing the high quality of the workforce in Ontario, Toyota decided recently to build a second plant in the province (this time in Woodstock) even though Ontario was offering only about half the subsidy offered by Mississippi and Alabama to build the plant in one of those states. According to a July Canadian Press story, a Toyota spokesman said it had learned from Nissan and Honda, which had found the workforce in the U.S. South to be often untrained and illiterate, and that, in Alabama, trainers had to use pictorials to teach some workers how to use the equipment. [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation-CP, 7-5-05] http://www.msnbc.com/comics/nw.asp?vts=8920052001 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC
[MBZ] Alternate refrigerant politics
While searching Google for the original page with the R-12/oil fire that I posted to the list (which is waiting for Kaleb's approval -- hey Kaleb, I changed it from a gif to a jpg and it's smaller: I can resend with the jpg if you want), I found a page discussing the politics of alternate refrigerants, flammability, etc.: http://yarchive.net/ac/politics.html Craig
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
yep, I have a few select commments that are only appropriate on banned. redghost wrote: We are headed to $3/gal here. Went from 2.39 a month ago to 2.59 (last fill), and I am seeing the price around 2.79 most places this week. On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 05:36 AM, OK Don wrote: Diesel and unleaded are the same price here now - $2.21/gal. First time I've seen that in a long time. On 8/9/05, Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
Well, speaking for the western part of Quebec, today regular jumped to 98.9 a litre (CDN $4.50/gal) locally, but diesel is still 97.9. Regular was 84.9/litre about a week ago. Prices in central and eastern Canada are generally lowest in southern Ontario, higher in Quebec and the Atlantic/Maritime provinces. Anyone on the list from B.C. or Alberta? Wondering what it's like out there. Home heating is NOT going to be fun this winter. mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, I have a few select commments that are only appropriate on banned. redghost wrote: We are headed to $3/gal here. Went from 2.39 a month ago to 2.59 (last fill), and I am seeing the price around 2.79 most places this week. On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 05:36 AM, OK Don wrote: Diesel and unleaded are the same price here now - $2.21/gal. First time I've seen that in a long time. On 8/9/05, Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon?
Peter, The W124 does not have a monovalve like the earlier cars... it's a different design that rarely leaks. With the AC off and the vent on min temp, I always get ambient air, not slightly heated, so I'm almost certain the monovalve is not the issue. I have an R-12 system with actual R-12 (gasp!) and I hope the expansion valve is not the problem, since that requires evacuation to repair, and the old R-12 valve is not available from the dealer anymore (not sure if we can still get it via aftermarket or not.) I'm still hoping for a simple fix with the B10/6 evap sensor :-) -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2005 17:13:51 -0500 From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon? Does your monovalve leak? Are the pressures correct (i.e. does the expansion valve work properly)? The actual evaporator temp is controlled by the expansion valve, so if it runs a bit warm, so will the evaporator (or if it has some crud in it). They are fairly easy to replace. If the monovalve leaks, you have reheat when you don't want it. My TE is quite cold, AC works a charm. On the 300D, it's only cool at idle, cold above 1000 rpm. Unless you have a bigger condenser, R134a will run a bit warm above 100F outside temp, worse with high humidity like we have here. Peter
Re: [MBZ] R-12
Craig McCluskey wrote: R-12 by itself is non-flammable. However, R-12 is not used by itself in auto air conditioning systems. As the attached photo shows, R-12 and refrigeration oil burn very nicely. That's the oil mist burning, then. Bet it'd burn even better if you used compressed air instead of R-12. ;)
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I saw $3.25 for #2 here in the Victorville, Ca area. Dodge diesel dually is now parked. Driving a gasser (make left out) On 8/9/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, speaking for the western part of Quebec, today regular jumped to 98.9 a litre (CDN $4.50/gal) locally, but diesel is still 97.9. Regular was 84.9/litre about a week ago. Prices in central and eastern Canada are generally lowest in southern Ontario, higher in Quebec and the Atlantic/Maritime provinces. Anyone on the list from B.C. or Alberta? Wondering what it's like out there. Home heating is NOT going to be fun this winter. mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep, I have a few select commments that are only appropriate on banned. redghost wrote: We are headed to $3/gal here. Went from 2.39 a month ago to 2.59 (last fill), and I am seeing the price around 2.79 most places this week. On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 05:36 AM, OK Don wrote: Diesel and unleaded are the same price here now - $2.21/gal. First time I've seen that in a long time. On 8/9/05, Rick Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folkes, I noticed something interesting here in North Georgia. A couple of weeks ago, gas was costing about $2.21 and diesel $2.29. Sunday, the positions were reversed with gas at $2.29 and diesel $2.21. Has this happened generally or just here? This is the first time in about a year and a half that I've seen diesel for LESS than gas. thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins www.javaphoto.com http://www.javaphoto.com www.javacycles.com http://www.javacycles.com payment by all major credit cards or by paypal Java Photo Java Bajaj Cycles 107 Paradise Boulevard Athens, Georgia 30607 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com http://www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com http://www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
If he kills her, I guess I have to think really hard about wanting grandkids. I would love to get that w113, but a sprinter is more reasonable for the boss. Then again, she may want a CDI, so I would be in the w124. On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 01:30 PM, John Robbins wrote: On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, redghost wrote: I have three years to go, and Gump will gladly give her life, no matter how much I may wish the kid harm that day. So whats going to replace Gump? Somehow I don't see it being an SDL... -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I paid 107,9 per liter for regular gas in Nanaimo yesterday. I only bought 433 liters. And to think I called the robber barons in Vicrtoria names when they charged 99.9 per liter! Ken Yes it was in the boat, but I just had to make you guys feel a little better. And just think, I get almost a mile per gallon!!! In a message dated 8/9/2005 8:56:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Well, speaking for the western part of Quebec, today regular jumped to 98.9 a litre (CDN $4.50/gal) locally, but diesel is still 97.9. Regular was 84.9/litre about a week ago.
Re: [MBZ] MBCA show shine
I was thinking about it, as spectator, but I am not sure the bear hunt will have borne .. uh.. bear ... by then. And if so, may be unable due to not wanting to waste beer hauled in. Simpler to haul out empties with what the bear will weigh On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 05:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Should you need some heavy Benz lust, hit the regional show and shine up I-5 in Mountlake Terrace this weekend. 10 am at the Nile Country club. I shall be there. RLE ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] R-12
fellahs if you hold a torch to just about any oil and disperse it in a mist it will burn i had concerns about using a hydrocarbon based refrigerant and what i the simple facts are i have found is(in short) A 134 can jack you up if inhaled B all of this stuff if burned makes God only knows what which will really jack you up! C in order for a HC gas to be dangerous a great deal of the gas would have to be released all at one time, i think that would be unlikely unless there was a severe crash ( in that case i don't think that is really gonna be a problem) any way the choice you have no cooling... marginal cooling or cold air mike collins 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
Owned a 95 civic for a few years. Lots of them around the block. You can always tell when they start up. Razzy little tinny sound. No authority like a diesel benz On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 06:56 PM, David Brodbeck wrote: LT Don wrote: Two words -- Honda Civic. If you can, take one for an extended drive before you decide to buy it. I found out the hard way that my back is incompatible with Civic seats, which are firm and have a very pronounced lumbar bulge. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
did the long drives in the 'yota. My butt fell asleep long before anything else on the drive to CA. The w124 had my steering arm asleep hours before bumm complained On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 07:34 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: Hi I have heard that Toyotas have pretty good seats. Don't know if they are in the Mercedes league. Hendrik - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT) David Brodbeck wrote: LT Don wrote: Two words -- Honda Civic. If you can, take one for an extended drive before you decide to buy it. And if you can't, just sit in it for an hour. An hour is a small investment compared to the time you'll be stuck in the thing during its lifetime, or compared with the cost of dumping it to buy something you should have bought in the first place. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.1/64 - Release Date: 4/08/2005 ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
[MBZ] Seat motor blues...
well guys...we found a fried circuit board for the seat computer under the seat...arg!...gimmie a break!, this thing is more complicated than it needed to be...but i guess the two memory buttons were the hot new innovation in '86...my guess is that there is more computing power in a disposable camera for $14 than this rascal...
Re: [MBZ] Seattle prices
The bio is a solvent and it is removing all the crud from your fuel system. Using B20 just slowly does the job B100 was doing. Longer use of the filter, but more filters used for same effect On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 07:43 PM, Hendrik Riessen wrote: A car running on unleaded will still pollute, it just does not pump out lead as well as all the other nasties. I tried pure bio-diesel but it kept blocking my filters so now I am running B20 and yes it does smoke less and it is better for the injection pump because they are phasing in the new low-sulphur diesel which can affect some injection pumps. Over here the price of B20 is the same as standard diesel, about AU$1.25/litre(I just shut my eyes and hand over the plastic). Hendrik -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Seat motor blues...
Guess I can go to bed counting my blessings. I'm afraid to look up the cost of new; hope you find a good used one cheap! joe On 8/9/05, JJJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well guys...we found a fried circuit board for the seat computer under the seat...arg!...gimmie a break!, this thing is more complicated than it needed to be...but i guess the two memory buttons were the hot new innovation in '86...my guess is that there is more computing power in a disposable camera for $14 than this rascal...
Re: [MBZ] Stolen radio broken glove box
So sorry that some illegitimate child fornicated your car. My heart goes out to you. Matching the wood will be next to impossible, as they seem to age different in each car. Must have been a stupid crack smoking snot to bust the glove box and go after a busted radio. That said, I picked up radio at the PnP for $8.50 for Gump. Old nasty, ain't gonna get a buck for this when you fence it radio. Works great, plays tapes. No flashy lights or stuff to confuse mr. crack pipe about needing to bust into my car. On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 10:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Some SOB broke into my vehicle and stole the radio and broke the glove box. I got a replacement glove box via UPS yesterday but the new color of the dash it too dark. What can I do to match it with the old dash color? Attached is a picture of the glove box. You can't tell from the picture but the varnish has a cracked look to it. don't know if that's from the factory or age. They also stole the old cassette (broken) radio. Can anybody recommend a nice radio that's inexpensive? I would hate for this to happen to a high dollar radio. I remember seening some blaupunks for under 50$ 6-8 years. Thanks George -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] R-12
David Brodbeck wrote: That's the oil mist burning, then. Bet it'd burn even better if you used compressed air instead of R-12. ;) What's the miscibility of mineral oil in air? I think the picture's point is that if you break open the condensor in a crash, R12 burns just fine.
Re: [MBZ] R-12
The oil mist from R12 A/C system will burn! Duracool and other HC based refrigerants will burn. Gasoline will burn. Diesel fuel will burn. Engine oil will burn, Power Steering fluid will burn. So basically you are driving around surrounded by flammable material in your vehicle. My simple view is that the fuel line that runs from the rear of my car to the front carrying gasoline which can have over 60PSI of pressure worries me a lot more than the 2.2lbs of hydrocarbons I put in my A/C system. A pint of gasoline has more energy than something like 16 sticks of dynamite, and the fuel line has a long run that could break in an accident from almost any direction. I actually think the hydrocarbons being illegal in US is there to protect the mechanic who smokes a cigarette as he charges an A/C system and if it was legal then Du-Pont would lose a lot of money from the sale of 134a. Of course opinions are like a** holes, everyone has got one and they are often full of crap. I am no different and will be the first to say by using the hydrocarbon system I might be on the road to Darwinism, but I can accept that. Regards, Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 6:36 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 David Brodbeck wrote: That's the oil mist burning, then. Bet it'd burn even better if you used compressed air instead of R-12. ;) What's the miscibility of mineral oil in air? I think the picture's point is that if you break open the condensor in a crash, R12 burns just fine. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
Murder in traffic? Naw, you just have to plan ahead (like a day or two) before merging in traffic. Yes they are terribly slow but what do you want for 62 horsepower? Gary LoL! Power EQUIPMENT? Does that include the engine? I have heard that automatic 240Ds are murder in traffic. Issit true? Mac
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
A bit slow off the line, especially if the air conditioner is going, but fine after that. Cruises quite comfortably at 85 mph. On 8/9/05, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LoL! Power EQUIPMENT? Does that include the engine? I have heard that automatic 240Ds are murder in traffic. Issit true? Mac -- If we couldn't laugh we would all go insane.
Re: [MBZ] Stolen radio broken glove box
But I'll bet they left the hood star, the one thing they could sell on the street, didn't they?
Re: [MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars
could very well be. While i really like the South on many levels and enjoy living here, literacy is not valued here at all, even by the upper classes. There isn't a single decent bookstore in the city of Atlanta and possibly not even in the whole South. It doesn't seem to trouble the natives in the least. For readin n ritin stuff, the wealthy here simply import Yankees to handle it. There are small pockets of literacy and literature in the deep South. They are generally confined to small groups of weirdos at various universities. Beyond that is a vast nothingness of darkness. At 11:27 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Is this why the ML's have such a sorry record??? Least Competent People Citing the high quality of the workforce in Ontario, Toyota decided recently to build a second plant in the province (this time in Woodstock) even though Ontario was offering only about half the subsidy offered by Mississippi and Alabama to build the plant in one of those states. According to a July Canadian Press story, a Toyota spokesman said it had learned from Nissan and Honda, which had found the workforce in the U.S. South to be often untrained and illiterate, and that, in Alabama, trainers had to use pictorials to teach some workers how to use the equipment. [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation-CP, 7-5-05] http://www.msnbc.com/comics/nw.asp?vts=8920052001http://www.msnbc.com/comics/nw.asp?vts=8920052001 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
LT Don, try this: a/c on, start in D (second gear) AND on a steep hill (welcome to Pittsburgh, PA). You can time it with a calendar. A bit slow off the line, especially if the air conditioner is going, but fine after that. Cruises quite comfortably at 85 mph.
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
AFAIK never having worked on one, they're similar to most other systems in that they're all electronically controlled. Most AWD systems use a viscous coupling between the front and rear ends. Its not my opinion that the components are not robust, Subaru of course does very well in Rally racing. My worry is that when something inevitably fails, because it will, because everything fails sometime, that it'll be hideously expensive to fix. I prefer to have to just have fewer components to fail. Thats why I sort of wish Hammie had manual windows. At least if a manual window breaks you KNOW the problem is in the door. With electric windows, is it the switch, the wiring or in the door? -Curt Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:02:28 -0400 From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT) To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Curt Raymond wrote: AWD is just something else to break and from all accounts is a serious PITA to fix. What's the modern Subaru system like? My old 1977 wagon differed from the 2WD in: 1. not having fifth gear, the fifth gear shift fork was hooked up to a separate gearshift lever and engaged a driveshaft for the rear wheels. 2. Datsun (Nissan now) 280Z diff in the back, with an extra set of halfshafts. So, the added complexity in that case was three driveshafts and one diff, all rated for far more power than my 1.6L boxermotor ever dreamed of producing, and one extra shift lever. That car was much abused before I got suckered into buying it, and suffered many failures in the three months I drove it, but none involving the drivetrain, and no evidence that it had ever been touched. - Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
In Washington, the gas tax is constitutionally mandated to be used solely for transportation needs, and as you'll soon see, we don't have no stinkin transportation needs here--no siree. I hear some genius has gotten a proposal on the ballot that would eliminate the 9.5 cent tax on gasoline, but not on diesel. As if we aren't paying enough of a price premium already. Casey Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (206k) '84 300D (202k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k) Olympia, WA
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
Yep, IYKWIM is what someone put in their signature line. Sort of like LOL, laughing out loud and ROFL, rolling on the floor laughing, but I didn't know what was. So, I posted it here hoping the author or anyone else could enlighten me. ;) Gary huh? Schisler, Gary wrote: IYKWIM ???
Re: [MBZ] Citric Acid Flush
Health food store?? What else is it used for besides scrubbing rads? On 8/9/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jgiels wrote: you can go to a health food store and buy any quanity you want, I think I bought enough for $6 or $8. douglas.. 300D - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:39 AM Subject: [MBZ] Citric Acid Flush How much citric acid do I need to flush the cooling system? Local MB dealer has 1 lb in stock for ~$19. Can get it online for $2-3 a lb, but have to order 5+ pounds... Also, I've heard mention of a drain plug on the engine block. Is this basically the block heater or have I missed something? Thanks!! John '79 300SD About a kg (2.2 lb) is correct, but the precise concentration is not vital. Any amount between say a pound and 4-5 lbs (0.5 to 2 kg) will clean out the most any Mercedes cooling system. Be sure you flush the system well several times to insure that all the acid is GONE. The drain plug is on the passenger's side of the engine just in front of the starter motor. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SLR vs E55 video
Happened to catch a british car show on one of the Discovery channels (not sure which one). They drove an SLR pretty hard around a track. Their test driver set a new lap record, besting a Porsche GT3 by 1 1/2 seconds. (20 vs 21.5 or so). The sound from the cockpit when he wound that badboy out were incredible. Not on par with that supercharged 16 cylinder formula one motor from the 50/60's, but close. ...Kevin Dave M. said: Warning - 20MB file: http://www.err0neous.org/mbz/slrvideo4.wmv You just know how fast that SLR Mclaren is when you see it totally annihilated a car with 476bhp...! E55 AMG 5439 cc V8 476 bhp @ 516.3 ft lbs 0-60 4.6sec 155mph (governed) Price - $78,550 SLR McLaren == 5438 cc 90 Degree AMG V8 626.0 BHP @ 575.3 ft lbs 0-60 3.8 207mph Price - $535,281 :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
If You Know What I Mean IYKWIM Schisler, Gary said: Yep, IYKWIM is what someone put in their signature line. Sort of like LOL, laughing out loud and ROFL, rolling on the floor laughing, but I didn't know what was. So, I posted it here hoping the author or anyone else could enlighten me. ;) Gary huh? Schisler, Gary wrote: IYKWIM ??? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
240D's in traffic are a bit of challenge-but you learn how to drive differently-remember such rules as: * gravity is your friend *Life is too short to go fast *Look and think ahead *Use your turn signal and don 't look back when you change lanes I drive mine in Boston and Providence and have figured out a pretty good routine to get through. I call my automatic 240D a good middle lane car on urban freeways. Keep it wound and stay in the middle. All in all it reminds me of my 1950 Dodge pick up with flat head six and fluid drive-good training for a 240D. FWIW Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. ? I have heard that automatic 240Ds are murder in traffic. Issit true? Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sort of personality that likes the 240D (such as mine) prefers to have as little power equipment as possible, since that is only one more item to break and need replacement. Or at least that is how I feel. On 8/9/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck, though it seems a little pricey since it has neither PW nor a sunroof. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
What would you call your governor if he were male and therefore technically not a sl*t? On 8/10/05, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Washington, the gas tax is constitutionally mandated to be used solely for transportation needs, and as you'll soon see, we don't have no stinkin transportation needs here--no siree. I hear some genius has gotten a proposal on the ballot that would eliminate the 9.5 cent tax on gasoline, but not on diesel. As if we aren't paying enough of a price premium already. Casey Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (206k) '84 300D (202k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k) Olympia, WA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Are the improved updated rods even available anymore? I suppose you would have to pull the engine, then the pan and crank to change out the rods. That would be easier than having to pull the head. Dave M. wrote: Like me, they prefer diesels... also they live in PRK, and diesels are still smog exempt there which is a big plus. If I had a 600SEL and it failed smog there I think I'd faint at visions of $4k catalysts or some other such malarky. Also the improved MPG, less maintenance, etc. He doesn't really want a rod bender, he wants a W140 with a diesel, and well there's only one option that fits in the USA - and it's a rod bender! If you get one that hasn't yet failed, if you change the rods out BEFORE they destroy the cylinders, the engine should last as long as any other MB diesel. Of course it would be preferable to get one that already has a rebuilt factory motor to avoid that little hassle. :-( -Dave M. -- Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2005 22:39:17 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL why does he want a bod bender? Im on the lookout for another 140 myself and might take a chance on a rod bender, but the wife does not like diesels so its either going to be a 300SE, or a V8 Dave M. wrote: BTW, my BIL is seriously shopping for a 1992-95 S350 diesel (yes, the rodbender). If anyone has a line on a cream puff, let me know. Strong preference given to examples with a documented replacement engine, although if it's original and uses zero oil and the price was right, I think that would be OK too (then I'd make him proactively replace the rods!) :-) -Dave M. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:58:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are the improved updated rods even available anymore? I suppose you would have to pull the engine, then the pan and crank to change out the rods. That would be easier than having to pull the head. Kaleb, I would doubt if Mercedes machined this engine for ring compression (like most motorcycles) from the bottom. Putting the new piston/rod assembly in would require pulling the head as well, I betcha'. Regards, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 261 K miles 98 ML 320, 137 K miles
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Mightn't the sleeves provide a surface for the edge of the ring compressor to bear against? Doubt I'd want to go to all that trouble and not replace the head gasket anyway; call it 'paranoia'. ;) joe On 8/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I would doubt if Mercedes machined this engine for ring compression (like most motorcycles) from the bottom. Putting the new piston/rod assembly in would require pulling the head as well, I betcha'.
Re: [MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars
Jabba wrote: There are small pockets of literacy and literature in the deep South. They are generally confined to small groups of weirdos at various universities. Beyond that is a vast nothingness of darkness. The New Orleans elite is always portrayed, at least in literature and by Hollywood -- as genteel, read and cultured. Is this so? Mac
Re: [MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our plant is of German origin. The Germans have an entirely different work ethic, and their educational system works in a significantly different manner, producing workers who care about what they do. In this respect, Canada and the U.S. (and Britain, certainly) share the same legacy of shame. What the Germans do right, is that if a student early on shows either no interest in a university-oriented learning path, or clearly shows a technical interest that will lead to a trade, they stream them into a different learning environment. But they do insist they learn. They are taught *something* beyond shop skills, in terms of higher science theory, albeit adapted to trades skills. I think the larger point is that they leave school with some pride in themselves. Here we don't seem to even care if people destined for trades finish high school. Not that that means much these days, when I see university grads who can't put a verb into a sentence. Our curse was decades of plentiful, relatively high-paid factory jobs that lulled our governments into complete inattention to ensuring blue-collar workers had skills. If Bobby couldn't read, well No problem, he can always get a job down at the plant, cousin Fred works there and makes $20hr. For some reason many still live in that thought bubble, even though those jobs have all but evaporated from this continent. Mac
Re: [MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars
I beg to differ Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of JabbaHursty Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 7:36 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars could very well be. While i really like the South on many levels and enjoy living here, literacy is not valued here at all, even by the upper classes. There isn't a single decent bookstore in the city of Atlanta and possibly not even in the whole South. It doesn't seem to trouble the natives in the least. For readin n ritin stuff, the wealthy here simply import Yankees to handle it. There are small pockets of literacy and literature in the deep South. They are generally confined to small groups of weirdos at various universities. Beyond that is a vast nothingness of darkness. At 11:27 PM 8/9/2005, you wrote: Is this why the ML's have such a sorry record??? Least Competent People Citing the high quality of the workforce in Ontario, Toyota decided recently to build a second plant in the province (this time in Woodstock) even though Ontario was offering only about half the subsidy offered by Mississippi and Alabama to build the plant in one of those states. According to a July Canadian Press story, a Toyota spokesman said it had learned from Nissan and Honda, which had found the workforce in the U.S. South to be often untrained and illiterate, and that, in Alabama, trainers had to use pictorials to teach some workers how to use the equipment. [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation-CP, 7-5-05] http://www.msnbc.com/comics/nw.asp?vts=8920052001 -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '87 300SDL '81 240D '78 450SLC ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
These days being female is not a prerequisite to being a sl*t... Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:05 AM To: Mercedes mailing list Subject: Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net What would you call your governor if he were male and therefore technically not a sl*t? On 8/10/05, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Washington, the gas tax is constitutionally mandated to be used solely for transportation needs, and as you'll soon see, we don't have no stinkin transportation needs here--no siree. I hear some genius has gotten a proposal on the ballot that would eliminate the 9.5 cent tax on gasoline, but not on diesel. As if we aren't paying enough of a price premium already. Casey Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (206k) '84 300D (202k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k) Olympia, WA ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
only if you don't get a downhill roll first-our hills here-such as they are-go up and down fairly close to each other. I also ride a bike so the 240D is an easy transition from pedaling. Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D #1 could also be your enemy. degcoast wrote: 240D's in traffic are a bit of challenge-but you learn how to drive differently-remember such rules as: * gravity is your friend *Life is too short to go fast *Look and think ahead *Use your turn signal and don 't look back when you change lanes I drive mine in Boston and Providence and have figured out a pretty good routine to get through. I call my automatic 240D a good middle lane car on urban freeways. Keep it wound and stay in the middle. All in all it reminds me of my 1950 Dodge pick up with flat head six and fluid drive-good training for a 240D. FWIW Dwight Giles 1979 240D auto 244k + miles Wickford, RI Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co. ? I have heard that automatic 240Ds are murder in traffic. Issit true? Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The sort of personality that likes the 240D (such as mine) prefers to have as little power equipment as possible, since that is only one more item to break and need replacement. Or at least that is how I feel. On 8/9/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck, though it seems a little pricey since it has neither PW nor a sunroof. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] R-12
How exactly would one determine that the R12/oil was the cause of the fire? I've been to literally hundreds, if not thousands of car crashes in the last 26 years on one of those shiny red fire engines and have never been able to pinpoint the AC as the culprit or even a contributor. I think it much more likely to be that a crash of such consequence would spread gasoline, diesel, motor oil, or scrape and short out wires causing electrical insulation to burn. Have I seen AC components broken and their contents leaked out? Lots of times. Never been able to pin a fire on it though. Ken In a message dated 8/10/2005 5:00:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii David Brodbeck wrote: That's the oil mist burning, then. Bet it'd burn even better if you used compressed air instead of R-12. ;) What's the miscibility of mineral oil in air? I think the picture's point is that if you break open the condensor in a crash, R12 burns just fine.
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
Well, here is some GOOD news out of Washington, D.C.: WASHINGTON, DC—President Bush unveiled an aggressive initiative Monday that would make the U.S. free of petroleum dependence by the year 4920, less than three millennia from now. Our mission is clear, Bush said in a speech delivered at Fort Bragg in North Carolina. We must free ourselves from dependence on fossil fuels within 85 generations. A cleaner, safer America is my vision. And it is our great, great—great-times-80 grandchildren who will realize that vision. Bush promised a legislative package that would mandate severe cuts in oil-production subsidies and provide new funding for alternative-energy research and development. According to the timetable he presented, these bills could be introduced as early as 3219, and U.S. energy consumers could start to see radical changes by the early 42nd century. If we don't end our dependence on oil by 4920, when will we end it? 5580? By then, it may be too late, Bush said. Bush called on both Democrats and Republicans living 1,200 years from now to work together to pass the program. It would be a shame if, by the 33rd century, these bills were still tied up in committee. I urge the 712th Congress to pass this legislation with minimal partisan gridlock, Bush said. The president's science advisor, John Marburger, provided more details of the energy plan in a press release issued late Monday. It is the president's hope that hydrogen fuel cells, nanotechnology, or the recycling of human beings into fuel will hold the key, Marburger wrote. Whatever the people of the 50th century feel is appropriate. In a detailed policy statement, Bush elaborated on the plan, expressing the hope that a third party, perhaps one comprising robots or super-intelligent, genetically engineered man-beasts, will help reduce America's dependence on fossil fuels. I am calling on the popularly elected cyborgs of tomorrow to support this sensible measure to ensure the security of the nation, Bush said. Some industrialists, particularly major auto manufacturers, expressed reservation over Bush's initiative. As admirable as Mr. Bush's visionary pronouncement is, I worry that the timetable he proposes is far too ambitious, General Motors CEO Richard Wagoner Jr. said. It is simply not realistic. The automotive industry would require an additional three or four thousand years to develop engines that can run effectively on renewable or cleaner-burning fuels. Exxon Mobil CEO Lee Raymond said the petroleum-producing company shares Bush's hopes for a cleaner environment well before the sun turns into a red giant and dies. Mobil Oil has already made great strides in protecting the precious air and water within the television-commercial environment. And we plan to golf closely with the U.S. Department of Energy and oil-industry lobbyists to ensure that President Bush's initiative comes to pass in the unimaginably distant future. Responding to reporters' questions, Bush admitted that our progeny could face challenges in pursuit of the goal, such as the earth's degrading orbit and eventual destruction of the moon by tidal force, or the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Our distant relations will have some hard work to do, Bush said. But hard work is what built this nation, and I have every faith that they will succeed. The proclamation comes on the heels of Bush's plans to pay off the national debt by the early 6300s, and win the war on terror by 7450. --- The Onion 8/9/05
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
Perhaps someday folks will realize that if they want to live in the country they should find work in the country. If they want to work in town, then live in town. Why should I get all upset over someones long commute because they live 30 miles away from work? Why should I pay extra taxes or tolls (piece of shit Narrows bridge project) to make a carpool lane. (Note: the new bridge will add only one carpool lane in each direction, no additional capacity for other vehicles. The toll by law, must start at $3.00. They predict it will rise to $7.00 by the end of the first year. The carpool folks believe that they are so holy that they should be exempt from the toll altogether.) Yes, I traded my 2 1/2 acres of country to live in the city until I retire. My 4 mile commute takes 9-10 minutes. My previous commute was 23 miles and depending on the time of day was up to 1.5 hours. If an accident or jumper is involved all bets are off. The legislature still hasn't figured out that when the public votes no, they mean no. Ken Currently on my boat paying road fuel taxes for absolutely no benefit. The 9.5 cent increase would be taken from me on every gallon of boat fuel with no recourse. Yes I am aware that I can get 1/3 of the total tax back by filing extra paperwork, which I do. The other 2/3 is lost to Olympia. In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:05:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In Washington, the gas tax is constitutionally mandated to be used solely for transportation needs, and as you'll soon see, we don't have no stinkin transportation needs here--no siree.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 69
If you know what I mean? IYKWIM YTTIC Ken (yours truly, tongue in cheek) In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:05:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Schisler, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Yep, IYKWIM is what someone put in their signature line. Sort of like LOL, laughing out loud and ROFL, rolling on the floor laughing, but I didn't know what was. So, I posted it here hoping the author or anyone else could enlighten me. ;)
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
1966 36 foot Chris Craft. Twin 327 Chev. 8 US gph @ 7.7 knots. If you like varnished mahogany you'll like this boat. Ken In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:05:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One mile per gallon? Is that a Canadian gallon?? What sort of boat? On 8/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I paid 107,9 per liter for regular gas in Nanaimo yesterday. I only bought 433 liters. And to think I called the robber barons in Vicrtoria names when they charged 99.9 per liter! Ken Yes it was in the boat, but I just had to make you guys feel a little better. And just think, I get almost a mile per gallon!!!
[MBZ] Vacuum Testing on 76 300D
So, as might be expected, (based upon my reading of posts over time) my new 300D has vacuum issues. The door locks sort of work sometimes but not most of the time and my auto tranny doesn't shift nice - I have to let off on the accelerator pedal in order to get it to shift unless I want to hold it down and let it wind up before it shifts (I usually don't). Where do you recommend that I start in order to see what I can do to improve the issue. I can sort of live with the doorlocks at least to begin with but I assume the vacuum issue is causing the tranny issue and would like to improve that part of the operation of the vehicle. I did read somewhere that I should start on the passenger side in the footwell and follow the lines. My guess is that the passenger front door lock may be at least part of the problem as it is the only lock button that never seems to go up or down on its own when the driver's door lock is activated or deactivated. I also assume that the trunk lock was included in the system but it does not seem to be now. Also the fuel filler door? There appear to be lines in the trunk. I also assume some of the contraption behind the spare tire is related to vacuum storage? (the rest is related to the sunroof - right?) Do you all recommend trying to fix the original setup or might it be wise to improve by replacing the tank with something a bit more solid - ie metal? I have had this thing for a month or so now and have driven it about 900 miles - one highway trip of 325 or so miles and the rest around town. I am averaging about 26 mpg (imperial) so about 21 US mpg. Fuel here is about .91 per liter Canadian so $3.43 Canadian $ for a US Gallon - or $2.83 US $ per US Gallon. Went up from about 0.849 per liter to 0.909 per liter since I got the car but haven't had the big jump that you folks are reporting this past week. Filled this morning just in case it does jump up soon. Randy in Winnipeg
[MBZ] Fuel Filter(s)?
Since I got the 300D, I have changed the oil and filter in the engine - WIX filter - no new O ring as the one they send with the filter does not fit the MB. No new small O rings on the engine part that I hear referred to in regard to oil pressure guage fluctuation. Used Shell Oil - 15W40. No fancy synthetic until I replace the valve cover gasket as it appears to leak at the back of the engine. Also replaced the air filter element with a WIX brand unit. That is it so far. How do I know when the fuel filter(s) should be attended to? Seems to run fine (but I am no expert on these things either). If I recall various posts, there is a screen in the tank ( I assume is removed by unscrewing the plug in the bottom of the tank - recent talk of using a spark plug socket to fit the large allen wrench hole??). I also see what I assume is a filter housing under the hood with a drain plug near the bottom. Do I have to bleed this thing in some manner if I change it so that it doesn't pump air into the injector pump?? Fill me in or point me in the right direction. I have no previous Diesel history whatsoever. I have wanted a Diesel Benz for a long time and am now thinking I might look at the Dodge trucks with a Cummins as well. Randy in Winnipeg
Re: [MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars
hay watch it Yankee! no man the south has changed a lot from the bad old days it is just a Hollywood stereotype there are still some who fry everything ! but there not the rubes yesterday mike collins phila ( pa) 1985 500 sec
Re: [MBZ] OT - where to biuld cars
And if a German at any time decides he has made the wrong path choice, he can re-enter the system and attempt a different path, at no cost. Thus the electronics tech who decides he wants now to be an engineer may re-enter the school path, change his 'major', and apply diligence that may have been lacking in his youth, and improve his position. Steve, you may well have hit it on the head when you said they leave school with pride in themselves. !! Richard --- Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our plant is of German origin. The Germans have an entirely different work ethic, and their educational system works in a significantly different manner, producing workers who care about what they do. In this respect, Canada and the U.S. (and Britain, certainly) share the same legacy of shame. What the Germans do right, is that if a student early on shows either no interest in a university-oriented learning path, or clearly shows a technical interest that will lead to a trade, they stream them into a different learning environment. But they do insist they learn. They are taught *something* beyond shop skills, in terms of higher science theory, albeit adapted to trades skills. I think the larger point is that they leave school with some pride in themselves. Here we don't seem to even care if people destined for trades finish high school. Not that that means much these days, when I see university grads who can't put a verb into a sentence. Our curse was decades of plentiful, relatively high-paid factory jobs that lulled our governments into complete inattention to ensuring blue-collar workers had skills. If Bobby couldn't read, well No problem, he can always get a job down at the plant, cousin Fred works there and makes $20hr. For some reason many still live in that thought bubble, even though those jobs have all but evaporated from this continent. Mac __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] Citric Acid Flush
Great for getting stains out of dishwasher Or if you are a kid REALLY SOUR, so dunk lollipops in it On Wednesday, August 10, 2005, at 05:58 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: Health food store?? What else is it used for besides scrubbing rads? On 8/9/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jgiels wrote: you can go to a health food store and buy any quanity you want, I think I bought enough for $6 or $8. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Dave, Here's your rod-bender. From the Austin American-Statesman: http://cars.statesmanclassifieds.com/autos?property=austintp=Austintemp_type=detailclassification=autosad_id=23011098 BTW, here's a 95 E300D also. A much better ride in my opinion: http://cars.statesmanclassifieds.com/autos?property=austintp=Austintemp_type=detailclassification=autosad_id=23140151 Gary Thompson 1995 E320 1984 300D The Curse On 8/9/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I was quoting prices based on dealer wholesale (Rusty) or used... my numbers are probably optimistic. I didn't want to totally scare poor Kleb like you probably just did, lol... BTW, my BIL is seriously shopping for a 1992-95 S350 diesel (yes, the rodbender). If anyone has a line on a cream puff, let me know. Strong preference given to examples with a documented replacement engine, although if it's original and uses zero oil and the price was right, I think that would be OK too (then I'd make him proactively replace the rods!) :-) -Dave M.
Re: [MBZ] Ridiculously sweet car
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at my local benz dealer a few years back and I saw a new 350SD engine sitting in the parts department. I asked them about it, they said it is a factory replacement and cost around $7500. They also said the guy who ordered it for his car had already gone through 2 engines. -Dan I do NOT know of a single FACTORY replacement engine failing in the characteristic way that the original engines failed (the one you mention may be the first, but it may or may not have been a factory replacement and may or may not have failed in the characteristic way). A few factory replacement engines that I know of have failed for other reasons (all due to neglect or abuse) and about half of the aftermarket replacement, dealer or independent rebuilt engines (that I know of - small sample of maybe a dozen engines) have failed for a variety of reasons - most apparently related to the rebuild - NOT the inherent engine design flaw. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Gary Thompson wrote: Dave, Here's your rod-bender. From the Austin American-Statesman: http://cars.statesmanclassifieds.com/autos?property=austintp=Austintemp_type=detailclassification=autosad_id=23011098 BTW, here's a 95 E300D also. A much better ride in my opinion: http://cars.statesmanclassifieds.com/autos?property=austintp=Austintemp_type=detailclassification=autosad_id=23140151 While the 124 chassis has won numerous touring car awards and is a delightful highway car, it's ride is not superior to the W140!! The 126 sedan and even the 124 wagon was a better ride then the 124 sedan and the W126 was inferior to the W140. The W140 is a GREAT highway car - perhaps the finest Mercedes ever made made according to the OWNERS that I've talked with. If you've driven one that wasn't GREAT, then it was BROKEN. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
So in other words, you might as well rebuild the engine with new rings, bearings etc Dave M. wrote: Kaleb, I believe we can only get the updated rods and AFAIK, they're still available. Current cost is about $160/ea wholesale. You need to pull the oil pan AND head, as the piston can only be removed from the top of the engine. Definitely a big job. I'd want to pull the motor, and while it's apart, do all the chain rails too. :-) -dm -- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:03:26 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL Are the improved updated rods even available anymore? I suppose you would have to pull the engine, then the pan and crank to change out the rods. That would be easier than having to pull the head. ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Are the improved updated rods even available anymore? I suppose you would have to pull the engine, then the pan and crank to change out the rods. That would be easier than having to pull the head. Last time I checked the rods were available (the improved pistons that were used in SOME rebuilds have not been available for more than several years) BUT the installation of new rods in a block that hasn't been rebored and sleeved is problematical. At least half of the independent or even dealer rebuilds have failed. Mercedes forbade reboring the original block (despite the fact that they do just that at their rebuild facility - but MANY of the core blocks MUST be discarded I'm told). Both non factory rebuilds that haven't been rebored and those that have been rebored and sleeved have failed in about equal numbers. The ONLY reliable OM603.97 engine seems to be a FACTORY replacement whether it incorporates a NEW or a factory rebored block. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] 140 S350
Oooo... nice car, and a new engine too! I almost snarfed coffee out my nose when I saw the price, though. Looks like the seller is trying to recoup the cost of that new engine - plus labor. OUCH... they're about 50% over book value... =:-o -dm -- Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 12:26:44 -0500 From: Gary Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL Dave, Here's your rod-bender. From the Austin American-Statesman: http://cars.statesmanclassifieds.com/autos?property=austintp=Austintemp_type=detailclassification=autosad_id=23011098
Re: [MBZ] tags
Unless your vehicle happens to be a boat where the tags are still based on a mythical value determined by the state. Of course marine fuel still has the road tax applied to it. Ken In a message dated 8/10/2005 10:42:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At least we are able to pay $30 for tags no matter what the value of the vehicle, instead of the outlandish fee charged to drive a luxury car. Gump would have run me around $250 under the old scam
Re: [MBZ] Gargoyle
You don't really believe that when her office loses a 20 MILLION dollar suit that she should pay attention to the appeal date herself do you? I mean after all, she has important things to do, like, well.., like, uhm, uh, well it's only 20 MILLION DOLLARS. The taxpayers are rich, it's no biggie. KEn In a message dated 8/10/2005 10:42:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The current resident has been a pustulant sore on the ass cheek of the state since she ran rough shod on the DNR, screwing citizens. Then she blew millions of state fund because she was too incompetent to do her job as AG. Anybody could have seen she would not pass out the KY before mounting us
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
I'll stand by my OPINION. The 126 and 140 are just too big for me to be confortable driving. I LIKE the smaller 124 better, so there! I had no idea I was entering the realm of political discussion when I made this statement earlier... Gary Thompson 1995 E320 1984 300D On 8/10/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While the 124 chassis has won numerous touring car awards and is a delightful highway car, it's ride is not superior to the W140!! The 126 sedan and even the 124 wagon was a better ride then the 124 sedan and the W126 was inferior to the W140. The W140 is a GREAT highway car - perhaps the finest Mercedes ever made made according to the OWNERS that I've talked with. If you've driven one that wasn't GREAT, then it was BROKEN. Marshall
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 10:20:00PM -0600, Dave M. wrote: Like me, they prefer diesels... also they live in PRK, and diesels are still smog exempt there which is a big plus. It is starting to get to the point where the smog exemption isn't enough to make one select a diesel over a gasser. It is not difficult to get a car to pass smog if it runs well, and if it doesn't run well, you should fix it, apart from the smog test. With the price difference between diesel fuel and premium growing almost daily here, it will take a LOT of miles per year to make up for the cost savings in an engine with longer maintenance intervals. Or, you have to be someone interested in alternative fuels, or someone who hates the idea of life with spark plugs. K
[MBZ] Aluminum block V6 MB diesel...200, 000+ per year estimated - interesting
http://www.hydro.com/en/press_room/news/archive/2005_02/mercedes_engineblock_en.html Christopher McCann, Raytown, Missouri -1985 300SD, 208K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) -1998 Toyota Sienna CE, 99K miles, The Van __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [MBZ] 140 600SEL
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 01:41:06PM -0400, Marshall Booth wrote: even the 124 wagon was a better ride then the 124 sedan This makes little sense to me, but it proves itself empirically any time I get out of the 300D and get into the 300TD. I don't know whether it's the extra weight, the different suspension, or what. The back seat, however, is another story. I'd prefer to sit in the back seat of the 300D than the 300TD on a trip, if I wasn't driving. K
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
On Tue, Aug 09, 2005 at 09:13:29PM -0700, Rory wrote: I saw $3.25 for #2 here in the Victorville, Ca area. Dodge diesel dually is now parked. Driving a gasser (make left out) Funny you mention that, I'm working the numbers for taking the trip to Reno next month (from the SF bay area), and it might be a wash driving the diesel F250 king cab or the 460 powered F350 crew cab dually. Towing up that hill, the F250 spends enough time spinning pretty hard that mileage suffers. Stupid automatics. K
Re: [MBZ] Aluminum block V6 MB diesel...200, 000+ per year estimated - interesting
And don't forget the second article: http://www.hydro.com/en/press_room/news/archive/no_news_view/v6_engine_facts_en.html Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.hydro.com/en/press_room/news/archive/2005_02/mercedes_engineblock_en.html
Re: [MBZ] euro question
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: this euro is 84. so would it have the 722.4? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Got a 84 300D euro. It appears to have the same tranny setup as the turbos do, is this correct? 123 Euro 300Ds used 722.1 (early) or 722.4 (late) series transmissions, 300D turbos used 722.3 series transmissions (except the '85 California certified 300D turbos that used a 722.4 tranny). Marshall I haven't followed the changeover for 123s carefully (haven't own one since 1987), but I believe they all (even 240Ds) used 722.4s by late '83 - maybe even sooner. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] SLR vs E55 video
You want to see something very cool? The Ariel Atom. And yes, you too can own one of these and not have to sell the house. http://www.mbcanada.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8351 Make sure you DL the (large) video at the bottom link. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 8/10/05, Kevin J. Slater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Happened to catch a british car show on one of the Discovery channels (not sure which one). They drove an SLR pretty hard around a track. Their test driver set a new lap record, besting a Porsche GT3 by 1 1/2 seconds. (20 vs 21.5 or so). The sound from the cockpit when he wound that badboy out were incredible. Not on par with that supercharged 16 cylinder formula one motor from the 50/60's, but close. ...Kevin Dave M. said: Warning - 20MB file: http://www.err0neous.org/mbz/slrvideo4.wmv You just know how fast that SLR Mclaren is when you see it totally annihilated a car with 476bhp...! E55 AMG 5439 cc V8 476 bhp @ 516.3 ft lbs 0-60 4.6sec 155mph (governed) Price - $78,550 SLR McLaren == 5438 cc 90 Degree AMG V8 626.0 BHP @ 575.3 ft lbs 0-60 3.8 207mph Price - $535,281 :-) -- Dave M. Boise, ID 1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship) 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline) ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Thank God for Microsoft -- Linus Torvalds ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
[MBZ] Need PPI for car in NJ - NYC area
Dieselvolk, I considering the purchase of an MB in NJ, close to NYC. It's a 190D. Is anyone nearby there willing to take a look at the car for me, and perform a short test drive? Seller say's it's available for inspection evenings and I would assume on Saturday. Contact me off list if anyone can help out. Very respectfully, /s/ LCDR Meade M. Dillon, USNR Digest Lurker since 2001 '85 300TD 322k miles (Euro 5spd) '96 Infiniti I30 149k miles (wife's 5spd) '73 Balboa 20 'Sanctification' Charleston SC
Re: [MBZ] W124 A/C question - compressor cuts off too soon?
Dave M. wrote: Marshall, I thought that's how it should work. My 124 diesel will fluctuate between 38-42F when it's rolling along at speed, even on a really hot day. And I don't have the Easley mod. I read what you sent about that but I think what he did was a Band-Aid for another problem. I do NOT believe Mercedes intended the stock setting to be 48-52F, which is what he was getting on his test car, then he added the resistor shunt to drop those temps into the mid/upper 30's. I believe it should be 38-42F and maybe his shunt trick could drop that to maybe 36-40 or 34-36, depending on how close you want to run to the freezing point. I'll have to yank the sensor and test it, maybe tomorrow night. I hope you are correct that they drift up over time. I can yank the one from the parts car for comparison. The stock resistance value is supposed to shut off the compressor at 5 deg C. (41 F). Richard's mod was calculated to drop that to 1-2 deg. C. (34-36 F). Richards 7-8 deg C starting point was the consequence of an aging evap temp sensor (they will go higher then that as they age and eventually the compressor will NEVER come on when the sensor resistance reaches 25k ohm when air temp is 20-40 deg. C. I have had several ETS in 201s (different not interchangeable part, but that serves exactly the same purpose and is of similar construction) increase in value over time (until the compressor would not come on at all), that's a common aging result with ntc resistors. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 181Kmi,'87 190D 2.5 199Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 227Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 159Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 234kmi Diesel Technical Advisor MBCA, member GWSection http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/mbooth1.htm
Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D
NIKWYM. Now I know what you mean. Gary If You Know What I Mean IYKWIM
Re: [MBZ] SLR vs E55 video
TimothyPilgrim wrote: You want to see something very cool? The Ariel Atom. And yes, you too can own one of these and not have to sell the house. http://www.mbcanada.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8351 Make sure you DL the (large) video at the bottom link. My epiglottis is full of bees! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi
Re: [MBZ] Stolen radio broken glove box
They sure did. -- Original message -- But I'll bet they left the hood star, the one thing they could sell on the street, didn't they? ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] SLR vs E55 video
Impractical; no protection against road splash... On 8/10/05, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TimothyPilgrim wrote: You want to see something very cool? The Ariel Atom. And yes, you too can own one of these and not have to sell the house. http://www.mbcanada.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=8351 Make sure you DL the (large) video at the bottom link. My epiglottis is full of bees! -- John L. Ervine 1981 240D 4-spd 267+kmi 1980 300TD 168+kmi 1980 300SD 277+kmi ___ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] For new parts see www.buymbparts.com For repairs see www.oldworldauto.com To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
Justice Ireland is strong chrissy is a skank On Wednesday, August 10, 2005, at 08:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there are lotsa sour grapes here in washington after a fairly boisterous bit of politickin' last year...it's politics folks, that's how it's done...remember bush's florida,...lbj's texas,...chicago in the 60's??!! quit whinin' and organize! and yeah, lots of folk don't want strong women in office so that call them names... -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
Re: [MBZ] Sold a car, buyer never came to get it??????
On Wed, Aug 10, 2005 at 08:01:31AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Might make a tractor out of the engine and drive the body with a SBC in it. Might be cheaper to find an old f-body or a/g body to run the sbc in, especially if the 240 runs and you like the body enough to contemplate an engine swap... K
Re: [MBZ] preferred $5000 car? (kinda OT)
Federal Tax Credit will soon apply to clean diesels. (according to Fox News) That puts a $18K Golf or Jetta TDI (I got 48mpg out of my 03 Jetta wagon, driving it like a rental car for 40K miles) a whole lot further ahead than a hybrid in my mind. no weird 400 lb battery pack or high-voltage computer controlled relay junk. The interior feel of a Jetta rivals anything M-B has put out in recent years. and VW uses thicker sheet metal than the Japs so no door dings. That said, I love my Hondas and my Benzes. -Sealover Hondas: 95 Odyssey, 76 CB750F, 03 lawnmower Benzes: 83 300D, 77 and 84 300D parts cars On Tuesday, August 9, 2005, at 07:59 PM, LT Don wrote: What was that figure on the Federal tax credit? On 8/9/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LT Don wrote: I tried to talk him into the hybraid, but engineer that he is he pulled out his slide rule, bounced cost against fuel prices (then), and said that it was almost a wash. It's only a wash if you get your batteries for free. $4k for a battery pack in 5 years or so really skews the calculation. Make mine a CRX HF please, 65mpg and only one $30 battery.
