They are not misadjusted, they are opening and closing late in relation
to crank/piston position and ignition timing. This interferes with air
flow quite a bit at low charge density/low velocity. The effect is
much less as the charge density goes up and the velocity in the intake
runners
At 01:37 PM 10/26/2006, Tom Potter wrote:
I never really thought about it before, but it sure makes sense upon
reflection. Those little pointy bullets probably would not work well
jammed up against another center fire cartridge--
Except, just for the record, the Hornady folks have
Way to jump in there in Kaleb's stead, Rusty.
Bob R
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Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:45 PM
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Yes, let's try to keep it to cars mostly. And
guess the lesson is that you need a mauser
On 10/26/06, Kris Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 01:37 PM 10/26/2006, Tom Potter wrote:
I never really thought about it before, but it sure makes sense upon
reflection. Those little pointy bullets probably would not work well
jammed up against
I saw a 1976 450SL in at the St Vincent De Paul sales lot today. I have
Pictures if interested
Vin 1070441203380
118,321 miles
Gold/Black inside Gold has been repainted
They want 12,995. Owned by the last guy since 1998
New rubber.
Their phone is 425-212-3263 Fax 425-212-3267
Cell
I have no qualifications. I've owned exactly one Mercedes, which means
that when I opine something is true, I may be the blind man who is
feeling the elephant's tail and declaring it to be a snake.
archer wrote:
During the 1950s a neighbor had a three cylinder two stroke German Auto
Union which he said the Saab was a copy of. I've often wondered if that was
true. I drove it on several long trips and it seemed to have plenty of
power IIRC.
Well, remember, a two-cycle has twice
OK Don wrote:
I think the flat rate for a complete engine overhaul, including RR,
was eight hours. ( could be wrong - this was 35 years ago).
Didn't RR in that car go something like, 'remove bolts, reach in and
grab engine, yank out?' ;)
Jim Cathey wrote:
If solid was good enough for the toaster racks, why not just get some
nice 10ga or 12ga solid household wire from Home Despot?
Should be okay if you treat it like you would injector lines -- make
sure it's not under stress and not going to be flexed. Copper
work-hardens
Yup! I think there were a couple of wires also ---
On 10/26/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Didn't RR in that car go something like, 'remove bolts, reach in and
grab engine, yank out?' ;)
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=DensabtnG=Google+Search
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Densa
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From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My motto is Why do it right the first time? Where do I sign up for
Densa?
On 10/26/06, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is
I presume theres a grommet too or is it included?
I imagine its a tight fit on the line.
I guess it's normally part of the hose, because there's no way
to stretch it far enough to go either of the fittings. (So it's
put on first.)
I, however, often replace missing such grommets with ones I
I can provide guidance -- you just entered MY field.
Don
www.genesisdevelopment.com
B.A. Sacred Music
B.S. Liberal Arts (Business/MIS)
On 10/26/06, BillR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just about any doctorate [out of the sciences/engineering] is an admission
of having a compulsive disorder of
I would use stranded
from the first plug in the 'chain' to the relay.
Which should, of course, already be there as part of the
series system you're replacing.
-- Jim
I saw a 1976 450SL...They want 12,995.
Makes mine sound like a bargain, only asking $6900 right now
and the seats look pretty good too.
http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLsale.html
-- Jim
Is that the original color? Looks like 57 Chevy turquoise repaint. I
would only go $513 because of that.
So would that mean you'd go higher or lower if it also had
a Chevy 350 and torqueflite in it? :-)
-- Jim
I [Zeitgeist] is really really smart.
An unhealthy admiration of the crazy Finns?
A penchant for buying and selling rolling blackberry farms?
Evidence suggests otherwise!
My wife thinks I'm Densa 'nuff to be a member.
-- Jim
On 10/26/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I saw a 1976 450SL...They want 12,995.
Makes mine sound like a bargain, only asking $6900 right now
and the seats look pretty good too.
http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLsale.html
-- Jim
You should list it as Regular $191.67 payments, buy
Careful, Jim -- you are starting to type like DanG.
On 10/26/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I [Zeitgeist] is really really smart.
An unhealthy admiration of the crazy Finns?
A penchant for buying and selling rolling blackberry farms?
Evidence suggests otherwise!
My wife thinks I'm
Hi
the 103 engine fitted to the 300SE does have a known weak spot in the
right rear of the engine where the oil and water channels are adjacent to
each other. corrosion, age related fatigue on the gasket causes this oil
and water mix.
Early telltale signs are oily residue in the water
I thought the 300CE was a snazzy looking car, so searched eBay, and
found this one near me.
Does this picture look scary to anyone else?
http://i10.ebayimg.com/02/i/08/bd/69/12_3.JPG
auction - 110046278224
http://tinyurl.com/y48mvu
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the
I IS really really smart
On 10/26/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Careful, Jim -- you are starting to type like DanG.
Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler/propane injection #22 (219k)
'84 300D (218k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:26:34 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does this picture look scary to anyone else?
http://i10.ebayimg.com/02/i/08/bd/69/12_3.JPG
Uh, yeah!
The tachometer says the engine is running, but the oil pressure is zero.
Not good.
Craig
the ad does say that the tach is not accurate. however, given that the temp
gauge is at 85 and the idiot lights aren't on, the car is indeed running.
RUN.
On 10/26/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 22:26:34 -0500 OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does this
That's what I thought -- but then, if it could be bought for a dead
engine price, it would be a nice recipient for a 603 transplant!
On 10/26/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the ad does say that the tach is not accurate. however, given that the temp
gauge is at 85 and the idiot lights
That's what I used to believe until I heard from quite a few sources that
the 103 is way better on timing chains because the camshaft does not
'vibrate' as much as the 102 camshaft. Of course I have no definitive proof
of this (as in factory technical literature), so I am not going to dig my
Interesting to know about the O2 tester.details?
with 130K kilometres the engine is very sound. Seems to be a fuelling
problem as at part warm-up the engine is responsive right across.
mak
distributor sensor plate sticking) or perhaps wonky O2 sensor. I have
recently build a tester for
The econometer would be in the red with the engine off. Also the odometer
numbers don't line up too well...hmmmnh.
But worst of all it is just about out of fuel.
I suppose it could be a dodgy gauge or sender, don't think it is a fuse
cause other things run off the same fuse.
However if the
First Marshall and now Spud, is someone, or something, taking our good
people away? Has anyone heard from Dave Meimann? I hope nothing untoward has
happened to these two gentlemen.
Jim Friesen
Phoenix AZ
79 300SD, 264 K miles
98 ML 320, 146 K miles
I missed this the 1st time around - perhaps its not pertinent - there's an
o-ring where the MC mates to the booster. It does *not* always come w/new
booster. It fits into a groove near the MC flange. its critical to seal
the booster -
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First Marshall and now Spud, is someone, or something, taking our good
people away? Has anyone heard from Dave Meimann?
Stick this in your MBZ address book, I'm sure he'd like to
hear from you. Dave M. amgdaveATgmail.com
Dave left first, I think he quit last
I would run the other way.
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is that the original color? Looks like 57 Chevy turquoise repaint. I
would only go $513 because of that.
So would that mean you'd go higher or lower if it also had
a Chevy 350 and torqueflite in it? :-)
-- Jim
As Mitch said: Dave's alive and well. He keeps some of us 87 300TD owners
up to date on topics that he feels will interest us. I think the signal to
noise ratio on this list just got too high for his particular interests.
And we have new guys, like the indomitable Mr. Cathey, pitching in and
I've got a '91 300CE 24-Valve as a daily driver. Be prepared for some
expensive parts due to the smaller number of cars produced. When I bought
it a couple of years ago it needed an electrical module (don't remember
the exact name). A new one was over $1,500, found a used one for $300. I
First Marshall and now Spud, is someone, or something, taking our good
people away? Has anyone heard from Dave Meimann?
What Mitch said, Jim. My recall not quite being the steel trap it
once was I'm not positive but I have a vague recollection of his
having asked after you in the not too far
My recall not quite being the steel trap it once was...
I've seen plenty of steel traps that remind me of my own
mind hanging on the walls at Auntie Q's place... all
rusty, sprung out of shape, and semi-functional!
-- Jim
I'd always laid it on the motor mounts, but they're new and
obviously functional. I suppose that next up on the suspicion
list for the engine's buzzing obnoxiously at around 2000 rpm
is the fact that I used a 601's flywheel on a 602.
Somebody tell me it ain't so!
-- Jim
On 10/26/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://webmaila.juno.com/webmail/new/ wrote:
I saw a 1976 450SL...They want 12,995.
Makes mine sound like a bargain, only asking $6900 right now
and the seats look pretty good too.
Yea, itÂ’s a about $2-3000 overpriced, and the horsehair seats
I am so NOT offended by Rich despite our differing opinions.
On 10/26/06, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Way to jump in there in Kaleb's stead, Rusty.
Bob R
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To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday,
Could be, I know that unlike the 240D engine, the flywheel on the 300D
engine is dynamically balanced with the rest of the crank assembly. I don't
know about the 601 / 602 engines.
Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
www.kegkits.com
256-656-1924
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I learn a lot by making provocative statements and then watching the rest of
you geniuses hold forth...
On 10/26/06, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can provide guidance -- you just entered MY field.
Don
www.genesisdevelopment.com
B.A. Sacred Music
B.S. Liberal Arts (Business/MIS)
On
It's effing beautiful - I love the color (mittlerot or orient red??).
On 27 Oct 2006 12:50:05 -, Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a '91 300CE 24-Valve as a daily driver. Be prepared for some
expensive parts due to the smaller number of cars produced. When I bought
it a couple of
Very cheap fun.
--R
andrew strasfogel wrote:
I learn a lot by making provocative statements and then watching the rest of
you geniuses hold forth...
Ahhh...perhaps you share my admiration of Fanny J. Crosby and Charles Wesley
and William J.Kirkpatrick to name three.
Rock on, LT Don.
Bob R
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 6:56
Just as long as you recognize the genius ...
BillR
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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 10:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Was: Kettle, pot, black -Now: Qualifications
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In a message dated 10/27/2006 6:31:39 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'd always laid it on the motor mounts, but they're new and
obviously functional. I suppose that next up on the suspicion
list for the engine's buzzing obnoxiously at around 2000 rpm
is the
Question is: Can having a break in your exhause pipe about 2/3 of the way to
the tailpipe (in other words, about under the rear seat, and just before the
muffler) cause enough cold air (remember we have sub-zeros coming) to harm
(as in burn) the vavles? This is what I was warned about years ago
Anyone on the list live near St. Paul/Minniapolis area, MN?
Regards Tom
Jim Cathey wrote:
list for the engine's buzzing obnoxiously at around 2000 rpm
is the fact that I used a 601's flywheel on a 602.
Somebody tell me it ain't so!
I doubt it, just makes you rev a little more off the line to store
enough energy to launch the car with the lighter flywheel. If
In a message dated 10/27/2006 8:59:24 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Question is: Can having a break in your exhause pipe about 2/3 of the way to
the tailpipe (in other words, about under the rear seat, and just before the
muffler) cause enough cold air (remember
I don't know about the valve situation but I wouldn't want an exhaust leak
under the interior compartment. Sitting stuck in traffic muight put you to
sleep permanently. I have done a few temp fixes using the exhaust repair
kits you can buy at McParts stores.
Alan Duff
Knoxville, TN
On Fri,
I don't think it's cold air, but rather oxygen, that burns exhaust valves.
Open headers won't do it, but open ports with no header/manifold will.
Like Alan said, carbon monoxide under the car isn't good, keep the fan
on high, with fresh air coming in from the cowl, so keep the cabin
pressurized
Don't see a lot of these on the road.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemviewitem=ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.com%3A80%2F130039371911_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8QQfviZ1item=130039371911
Tom Harruff
Naples, FL
1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly)
1994
Please excuse me -- I feel ill.
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
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I was laughing my brains out... until I saw the BIN price. At that point I
almost swallowed my gum.
Macon 10/27/06 1:00 PM, LarryT at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please excuse me -- I feel ill.
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
Not exactly, but what if I did?
On 10/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone on the list live near St. Paul/Minniapolis area, MN?
Regards Tom
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Cheap at TWICE the price. Can you imagine how much work went into this? I
just love the english description too
On 10/27/06, Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was laughing my brains out... until I saw the BIN price. At that point I
almost swallowed my gum.
Macon 10/27/06 1:00
Tom,
I live about 85 mi. south of the Cities.
Let me know what you need and I'll see if I can maybe fit it in this
weekend. Can't make promises, as the wife doesn't like last minute
changes in our plans. But I would certainly like to be able to help
you out.
Brian
On 10/27/06, [EMAIL
For $39000 you get 1700 hours of work. About 23 bucks an hour, not a bad
deal, for high quality craftsmanship. To bad it is on a car, and not a
coffee table
Rick Knoble
'85 300 CD
'87 190 DT
Yes, thanks - I've been keeping the poisoning factor in mind too. I
don't spend much time sitting and idling (but will do more of that
this winter).
I intend to go at the repair with some nice JB Weld. I'm not too
worried about whether it holds or not (the exhaust is rusty) JB is
pretty cheap
Glad it worked for you, Loren. If you are bothering to replace the
speakers I imagine you're also putting in a new head unit---and in
that case I would strongly recommend also bypassing the center console
fader switch. You don't need to run new wire to the speakers to
accomplish this, as is
Now that's a woody.
I've got to say: I like it! Nicely done, and what's wrong with being
different? And if you're going to be different, better to be way
different. Look at the visual designs on the car - pleasing from an
artistic standpoint.
Brian
On 10/27/06, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You guys are making me feel better about my own checkered academic
career (10+ years as an undergrad with only one diploma to show for
it). I have a B.S. in computer science, narrowly escaped going to
grad school in philosophy, and recently went back to school to study
accounting. Now I'm about
Zoltan Finks wrote:
I intend to go at the repair with some nice JB Weld. I'm not too
worried about whether it holds or not (the exhaust is rusty) JB is
pretty cheap and I can always try again. I've got the pipe hung so
that it won't fall off.
JB Weld doesn't take high temperatures very
Quote from the ad
For every Mercedes-Fan or Collector this car is a Must-Have.
I guess there is likely to be a bidding war, if we all want it, Right?
Randy
Classy floor mats don't you think?
Randy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:47 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] E-Bay Item 130039371911
Don't see a lot of these on the road.
Ah. I'm intrigued by this muffler cement. This type of patch wouldn't
work here though, as the break is right where the pipe joins the body
of the muffler (if I recall correctly). So I suppose technically I
need a new muffler.
It's a muffler that's mounted with its length running side-to-side,
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Ah. I'm intrigued by this muffler cement.
It's a gray stuff that looks and feels a lot like mortar. It's crumbly,
so it doesn't hold up when used alone, but it does a good job when put
between pipes or between a pipe and a patch.
This type of patch wouldn't
work here
Here in Houston there is this tradition of art cars started some years
ago by some hippie artist types, through something called The Orange
Show http://www.orangeshow.org/artcar.html. Anyway there are a bunch
of these things around, I see some of them driving sometimes, others are
just
Funny.
Growing up in Tucson, everybody knew about the carpet covered car in
front of a carpet store. An old Toyota wagon.
Brian
Rich wrote:
This guy is a testimonial to the dangers of eccentricities coupled with
a shed.
Zoltan Finks wrote:
Funny.
Growing up in Tucson, everybody knew about the carpet covered car in
front of a carpet store. An old Toyota wagon.
I saw a car a several weeks ago in the Seattle area that appeared to be
two VW Beetle convertibles cut and joined end-to-end. Unfortunately
Reminds me of the cover photo on a 70's RoadTrack. There, crossing the
Golden Gate, was a '59 Chev Impala with the body placed backwards on the
chassis. For all the world it looked like it was being driven against the
traffic, until you looked inside and saw the driver sitting in the left
One of the local highschool autobody training shops did something similar with
a Ford Contour or Mercury Mistique -
or maybe one of each - can't recall. Both cars must have been damaged from
behind as they cut them off and welded
them back together in the middle. Being front drive vehicles, you
MN Larry on the SL list lives in/near MPLS.
On 10/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone on the list live near St. Paul/Minniapolis area, MN?
Regards Tom
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans will always do the right thing... after they've
exhausted all the
MN Larry - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10/27/06, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
MN Larry on the SL list lives in/near MPLS.
On 10/27/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone on the list live near St. Paul/Minniapolis area, MN?
Regards Tom
--
OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
The Americans
I always heard that running open headers could cause the exhaust valve
stems to warp as the cool air entered as it pleased, while the other
end was in the still hot head. I never saw it happen
On 10/27/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question is: Can having a break in your
Reminds me of the cover photo on a 70's RoadTrack. There, crossing the
Golden Gate, was a '59 Chev Impala with the body placed backwards on the
chassis. For all the world it looked like it was being driven against the
traffic, until you looked inside and saw the driver sitting in the left
front
You run into trouble if there are large leaks in the exhaust very close
to the valves, not from air getting in but from excessive heat from
lack of back pressure --remember, the valve train is designed to have
the pressure from forcing the exhaust out the pipes, and if you don't
have pipes you
Funny, cool, and just one more thing to freak skiddish or inattentive
drivers out - scare 'em straight - or swervy.
I did see, years ago, a chevy truck - well you could call is a conjoined
truck (two front ends and no back ends). Trippy.
Brian
On 10/27/06, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
Reminds _me_ of a mid-80s Car Driver project, back when that
magazine was a lot more interesting---they put a second engine behind
the seats of a Honda CRX driving the back wheels through a second
transaxle (linked to the same shifter).
I thought the drivetrains
There was a guy here in Michigan who redid a rusted Fiat X 1/9 (aren't all
Fiats rusted out?) in wood. He actually replaced steel with wood, claimed
it was hundreds of lbs lighter than the original IIRC.
and a lot safer! esp. when the engine falls out onto the road and you can't
go anywhere.
On 10/27/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was a guy here in Michigan who redid a rusted Fiat X 1/9 (aren't all
Fiats rusted out?) in wood. He actually replaced steel with wood, claimed
it
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