[MBZ] A few car pix
I'm trying SmugMug for posting a few car photos and I'm not sure I like it. http://RLE.smugmug.com/gallery/4300952/1/252095422 RLE ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300 02548) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W108 hydraulic compensator to spring swap - spring compressor needed?
Gang, I'm getting ready to swap out the hydraulic compensator for a spring on my W108. Wondering how tricky it will be to fit the spring. To those who have made this conversion: what sort of spring compressor did you use, and was it something you were able to find/rent easily? D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hate crime?
No, they're just forced to move to France. Ed 300E On 08/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > < punishment?>> > > > When a lawyer is convicted of a felony, isn't he disbarred? > > RLE > > > > > > > > > ** > Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > ( > http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 > 48) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hate crime?
> <> > When a lawyer is convicted of a felony, isn't he disbarred? RLE > > ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 48) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey look what I did
Nice At 05:56 PM 2/6/2008, you wrote: >Someone posted a link to this back some time ago, I did magic on it and >cut it on the CNC machine a little while ago. The logo is about 5" >wide, 3.5" high on a scrap of maple plywood with a bit of light stain to >bring out the cuts. I might have to make a nice box and put this on the >lid. It would probably do better on a solid piece of wood. Or maybe a >piece of aluminum sheeth. > >Don't tell the Benz lawyers, I'll probably get sued... > >Oh, BTW, anyone have any idea what sort of font might closely match what >is used on trunk logos? If I can't find a font match I might have to >just make some. > >--R >-- next part -- >A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >Name: DSC03932 (Small).JPG >Type: image/jpeg >Size: 51333 bytes >Desc: not available >Url : >http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/7c68d2d8/attachment.jpe > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
BT, WRONG. It's 11 ft/lb. Luther On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:01:13 -0600, MG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's about 20ft/lb or close enough. > > > > Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:02:41 -0600 > From: Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" , > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > 15 Nm > > Luther > > On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:30:38 -0600, Glenn Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I posted a query a couple days ago asking if someone could provide > the spec > > torque setting for the valve cover bolts on my '84 300D but haven't > received > > this info. yet. Does anyone have the engine book where you can look > this up > > and provide this info.? TIA > > > > G. M. Brown > > Brevard, NC > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
Never noticed the light on while driving. The 'new' gp's are German, but not Bosch. I'm going to have them all replaced I think. They offered to swap them for a better brand... Spray pattern could be bad, though. Never noticed any hint of a problem with the ignition switch - nor do I want to. I'll try the relay and go from there. BillR -Original Message- From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 2/7/08 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's a plot > GP's are all new, but three have gone out in a few months and have > been replaced. I'm confused. The GP's are only a few months old and you've already lost three of them? (Are they Monarks? :-) It sounds like your GP relay might be powering the GP's when the engine is running, or you have very bad injector spray patterns. A flakey ignition switch can trigger the GP relay to go on when you're driving, accelerating GP wear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
Up until this morning I have had no problem with it. Everything was as it should be. I would turn the key, the glow plug light would come on, by the time I had my seat belt fastened it would fire right up. Dash light would stay on for about ten seconds, then off until the next start. This morning I did my usual routine, but no start - it just cranked for 20 seconds with nothing. The way the steering wheel was turned I couldn't see the glow plug light was not on. Tried the key a few more times and not a glimmer from the light. I'll put in the relay in the morning and give it a try. BillR -Original Message- From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: 2/7/08 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's a plot Bill Ringgold wrote: > > So the plot thickens. Low probability solution, but the cheapest one: Replace the light bulb. (does it blink on and go out, or does it never come on?) If the glow plugs get current, I wouldn't replace the relay, or anything else more expensive than a glow plug, I'd just count to 30 and crank. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] New cell phone
LOL On Feb 7, 2008 7:49 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Better than an iPhone! > > www.flixxy.com/sumsing-turbo-3000-cellphone.htm > > > > > > > ** > Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > ( > http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300025 > 48) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Justice served
Here's a Chicago Tribune article on the trial date. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/chi-kass_bd_20jan20,1,2047849.story It seems the lawyer didn't realize that defendants in Chicago don't have the right to keep the judge waiting until the reporters give up and go home. (unless, of course, the defendant is a drunken Chicago cop accused of beating up a 110lb waitress who cut off his booze) So the judge is a Marine, a former cop, and he's really unhappy with a defendant who intentionally showed up late for not one, but two court appearances. And the first time Grodner asked for a continuance to 'find an attorney', then appeared pro se for the 2nd court date. They posted excerpts from the court transcript on blackfive, it's just too funny: http://www.blackfive.net/main/2008/01/anti-military-l.html 22 THE SHERIFF: Mr. Grodner, put your hands 23 behind your back. 24 THE COURT: You were warned once. I got a Page 4 1 message that you were -- you didn't want to come 2 here because you wanted to wait for the press to 3 leave. 4 I don't run my courtroom that way. You 5 have no regard for the Court. Bail is increased to 6 $20,000. Take him into custody. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
Bill, Did the car start? It could be something as simple as the bulb in the dash or it could be the controller itself. Have you checked if there is power at the glow plugs and the dash light? I would check those things as a start. Also check if you get power at one or both poles of the fuse strip. Of course all those are to be done with the key turned to on and then do the checks real quick before the controller (if it is not the problem) times out and turns the power off. That's about all I can think of. Hope some of it helps. Manfred Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 18:16:06 -0500 From: Bill Ringgold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] It's a plot To: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I think my car is getting concerned that I hire out about all maintenance these days, and wants me to get my hands dirty. The other possibility is that as it turned over 299k miles it started getting vain about hitting the big 30[0] and put a stop to it. For whatever reason, when I got in this morning there was no glow plug light. The strip fuse is good, so I ordered a kit for it. Anything I might be missing here, or tips on putting the new one in? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
No it's more like 10 - 11. Allan MG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That's about 20ft/lb or close enough. > > > > Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:02:41 -0600 > From: Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" , > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > 15 Nm > > Luther > > On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:30:38 -0600, Glenn Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I posted a query a couple days ago asking if someone could > > provide the spec torque setting for the valve cover bolts on my > > '84 300D but haven't received this info. yet. Does anyone have > > the engine book where you can look this up and provide this > > info.? TIA > > > > G. M. Brown > > Brevard, NC > -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
8.851 inch-lb to a newton-meter 0.7375 ft-lb to a newton-meter I just use 3/4, so 15 * 3/4 = 11, or a lot less than 20. MG wrote: > > That's about 20ft/lb or close enough. > > 15 Nm > > Luther ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
That's about 20ft/lb or close enough. Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:02:41 -0600 From: Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque To: "Mercedes Discussion List" , [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" 15 Nm Luther On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:30:38 -0600, Glenn Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted a query a couple days ago asking if someone could provide the spec > torque setting for the valve cover bolts on my '84 300D but haven't received > this info. yet. Does anyone have the engine book where you can look this up > and provide this info.? TIA > > G. M. Brown > Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux fans rejoice
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/05/us_army_linux_integration/ Back in December it was being reported that the Army was integrating more Macs into its infrastructure... http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/20/apple-army-hackers-tech-security-cx_ag_1221army_print.html Could be they're doing both, to achieve a more heterogenous environment, so attacks on any one platform will not be as debilitating. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
> GP's are all new, but three have gone out in a few months and have > been replaced. I'm confused. The GP's are only a few months old and you've already lost three of them? (Are they Monarks? :-) It sounds like your GP relay might be powering the GP's when the engine is running, or you have very bad injector spray patterns. A flakey ignition switch can trigger the GP relay to go on when you're driving, accelerating GP wear. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
Bill Ringgold wrote: > > So the plot thickens. Low probability solution, but the cheapest one: Replace the light bulb. (does it blink on and go out, or does it never come on?) If the glow plugs get current, I wouldn't replace the relay, or anything else more expensive than a glow plug, I'd just count to 30 and crank. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
So the plot thickens. The battery is new [within the year], not that that
means a whole lot, but it would turn the crank easily. GP's are all new, but
three have gone out in a few months and have been replaced. Relay is @$160,
relay kit [including 4 bosch gp's] is $5 more. I'd have ordered from Rusty,
but I'm working through a local shop. I'll try the relay first - looks like it
might be within my limited skill set.
BillR
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From: "Mitch Haley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: 2/7/08 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
Bill Ringgold wrote:
> there was no glow plug light.
That's the relay's way of telling you that the glow plugs don't all draw
the same current. Last time it happened to me ('79 300SD) the plugs were
good but the battery was weak. Put in a new group 49 and the light stayed
on for the usual waiting period.
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Re: [MBZ] another addition
The W123 pictured there is exactly how my 240D would look if someone gave it a swift kick in the nuts. On Feb 5, 2008 5:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 123, its on the front page of okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux fans rejoice
If you read the article closely (or even from a distance), the issue isn't that Linux works or doesn't, it is that they are having difficulty making Linux talk to existing Windows apps. Uh, I have an easy solution! On Feb 7, 2008 8:10 PM, Frederick W Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alles. > MacroCrap. > Gives a whole new meaning to "Blue Screen of Death". > I hope and pray that all vehicles Don't use it. > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Dieselitis Maximus. > > At 08:56 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote: > >If nothing else, the chances that the Linux-based vehicles will "crash" > is > >substantially reduced. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Justice served
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/keyedcar.asp Appears to be mostly true, except for the felony part. The lawyer claimed the witnesses were committing a hate crime by testifying against a jewish perpetrator. What a useless piece of Chicago style trash. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux fans rejoice
Alles. MacroCrap. Gives a whole new meaning to "Blue Screen of Death". I hope and pray that all vehicles Don't use it. Fred Moir Lynn MA Dieselitis Maximus. At 08:56 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote: >If nothing else, the chances that the Linux-based vehicles will "crash" is >substantially reduced. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux fans rejoice
i once knew a guy who tried to run an elevator on linux with uncle, but that was back then On Feb 7, 2008 8:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/05/us_army_linux_integration/ > > > > ** > Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > ( > http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp0030002548 > ) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Justice served
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Dec. 1, Chicago lawyer Jay Grodner took offense at "Semper Fi" Marine > Corps license plates on a black BMW. So the anti-war activist keyed the car. > The > car's owner, Marine Sgt. Michael McNulty, saw him do it and had him arrested. Sounds like a "hate crime" to me. Don't those get enhanced punishment? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Linux fans rejoice
If nothing else, the chances that the Linux-based vehicles will "crash" is substantially reduced. On Feb 7, 2008 7:05 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/05/us_army_linux_integration/ > > > > ** > Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. > > ( > http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp0030002548 > ) > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camshaft Appearance
You can pull the bolt (if it comes out) or the cover any time the engine is not operating. Change your filter again after about 1000 miles on synthetic -- all the varnish and crap will come loose and clog the filter up pretty fast if it's been run on dino oil. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Linux fans rejoice
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/02/05/us_army_linux_integration/ ** Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp0030002548) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] New cell phone
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Re: [MBZ] Camshaft Appearance
The ticking comes and goes all the time. Maybe more before the engine is fully warmed up? But I think all the time. Those little O rings are on my list for Rusty. I don't think an oil change is required to install them? Brian On Feb 7, 2008 3:39 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does that ticking come and go all the time, or just during the 5-8 sec > startup? > > Ed > 300E > > On 07/02/2008, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Okay, here's one of my famous "different" questions. Bear with me: > > On our 190D 2.5, I was looking into the oil filler hole in the valve > > cover. > > As I looked at the lobe of the camshaft that I could most easily see, I > > noticed that I could see marks on it from wear. They were sort of black > > marks - or dark anyway. I ran my fingernail across them and I don't > think > > I > > felt anything. > > > > Question is: If I had more engine experience, I would know this, but are > > the > > marks indicative of unusual or excessive wear? Or are you pretty much > > going > > to see that type of thing normally? > > > > The odometer is at about 271k mi. The car runs quite well, and the > seller > > claimed a rebuilt engine and trans. My guess is that's a lie. But the > way > > the car runs, though, it feels like new. Easy starting and has power > right > > away pretty much. Somewhat rough and noisy for the first 5 - 8 seconds > > after > > startup though. Oh and there's that troublesome ticking that comes and > > goes > > every few seconds. > > > > Unfortunately, we can't afford to have the oil tested right now, and I > > don't > > know what I'd do with the news anyway. > > > > Brian > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camshaft Appearance
Absolutely. The thermostat is top priority. I just need to make time to call Rusty and tell him all that I need to order. Oh, and I would like to start using Mobil 1 with our next change. For the most recent oil change, I used Rotella T just because I didn't know how long the previous batch of oil was in there, and I felt like a fresh batch ought to be run through before I put in the expensive stuff. Brian On Feb 7, 2008 3:43 PM, John Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zoltan Finks wrote: > > Oh and there's that troublesome ticking that comes and goes every few > > seconds. > > Can't help you much on the other issues, but are you using synthetic > oil? Also, if you haven't changed your thermostat... change it!!! With > your engine running cool it is producing more soot, which might very > well be making your lifters tick (the thinking being that synthetic oil > slowly cleans things out). > > John > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Justice served
On Dec. 1, Chicago lawyer Jay Grodner took offense at "Semper Fi" Marine Corps license plates on a black BMW. So the anti-war activist keyed the car. The car's owner, Marine Sgt. Michael McNulty, saw him do it and had him arrested. The police wanted to charge Grodner with a misdemeanor. McNulty held out for a felony charge, which the damage warranted. The prosecutor felt it was a minor case and urged the parties to make a deal, but neither was inclined to do so. Complicating matters was the fact that McNulty was en route to Camp Pendleton for his second deployment to Iraq. He was slated to report Jan. 2. The case was set for Dec. 31. At this point, a military-affairs blogger, BlackFive ( www.blackfive.net
Re: [MBZ] It's a plot
Bill Ringgold wrote:
> there was no glow plug light.
That's the relay's way of telling you that the glow plugs don't all draw
the same current. Last time it happened to me ('79 300SD) the plugs were
good but the battery was weak. Put in a new group 49 and the light stayed
on for the usual waiting period.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers
On Feb 7, 2008 2:48 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Ed Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > (Note I'm not saying it can't be done on Windows, but I know from > > exp. that it takes a heck of a lot more work to get it happening > > than it should on modern hardware with a modern OS, and UNIX was > > built in the 70's.) > > It's klunky on windows, I think you have to use Citrix or some such > software, whereas X11 allowes remote display natively, very easy to > mix and match local and remote apps seamlessly, you can secure the > remote ones over SSH if you need to, etc. > > Allan > Well yeah, but I didn't want to start a war by saying how slow it is on Windows :) Seems I tried too hard and have inadvertently started a small one the other direction. Ed -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow starter
Just to let you know that I had a 87 300D that had a failure in the idler belt bearing that pretty much stopped the car. It happened at a signal light and when I tried to restart the car it appeared that the starter was slow. Had it towed home and replaced the starter only to have the same problem. I suggest taking the belts off and making sure that all the pulleys spin free! Douglas - Original Message - From: "LarryT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow starter > Hi Allan, > I'm sure the others are right when they say the starter is dieing - but > just > to be safe - check the ground strap for cleanliness and tightness. It > needs > to be checked before the new started is installed anyway - may as well try > it before replacing it - > > Larry T (66 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) > www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts > Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil > PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net > Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs > . > > - Original Message - > From: "Allan Streib" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 9:13 PM > Subject: [MBZ] slow starter > > >> This is not specifically an MB question -- one of my other cars has a >> "slow" starter. It is worse when hot than cold. Is this indicative >> of a particular failure? Any diagnostic tests that might help >> indicate whether replacing the starter is appropriate? >> >> Allan >> -- >> 1983 300D >> 1966 230 >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camshaft Appearance
Zoltan Finks wrote: > Oh and there's that troublesome ticking that comes and goes every few > seconds. Can't help you much on the other issues, but are you using synthetic oil? Also, if you haven't changed your thermostat... change it!!! With your engine running cool it is producing more soot, which might very well be making your lifters tick (the thinking being that synthetic oil slowly cleans things out). John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camshaft Appearance
Camshaft lobes wear at the high point, typically producing flat spots. You will probably have to turn the engine by hand to see the "top" of the lobe well. Scratches or dark marks are not a problem so long as the surface is smooth. You often will see dark sludge on the back (low) side of the lobe on engine with mechanical lifters are there is no pressure on the lobe there. With hydraulic lifters, you only see dark stuff where the lobe isn't pressing down on the lifter (really a tappet on the 602). A pronouced flat spot will be obvious -- there should be a smooth curved shape to the lobe, although they can be rather "pointy" at the tip. Usually they wear on the forward side in rotation, so look (and feel) for an edge there across the lobe. Not usually a problem on the 60x engines, they have plenty of oil up there. A bad lobe will click every time it goes round, while a bad lifter or sticky valve will usually only clack sometimes. You need to switch to synthetic oil and replace the two o-rings on the center "bolt" of the oil filter cover, that should stop your flat lifter that clacks once in a while. Mine went quiet while I was checking for leaks after changing the oil to synthetic, just in a couple minutes of idling! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Camshaft Appearance
Does that ticking come and go all the time, or just during the 5-8 sec startup? Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Okay, here's one of my famous "different" questions. Bear with me: > On our 190D 2.5, I was looking into the oil filler hole in the valve > cover. > As I looked at the lobe of the camshaft that I could most easily see, I > noticed that I could see marks on it from wear. They were sort of black > marks - or dark anyway. I ran my fingernail across them and I don't think > I > felt anything. > > Question is: If I had more engine experience, I would know this, but are > the > marks indicative of unusual or excessive wear? Or are you pretty much > going > to see that type of thing normally? > > The odometer is at about 271k mi. The car runs quite well, and the seller > claimed a rebuilt engine and trans. My guess is that's a lie. But the way > the car runs, though, it feels like new. Easy starting and has power right > away pretty much. Somewhat rough and noisy for the first 5 - 8 seconds > after > startup though. Oh and there's that troublesome ticking that comes and > goes > every few seconds. > > Unfortunately, we can't afford to have the oil tested right now, and I > don't > know what I'd do with the news anyway. > > Brian > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Camshaft Appearance
Okay, here's one of my famous "different" questions. Bear with me: On our 190D 2.5, I was looking into the oil filler hole in the valve cover. As I looked at the lobe of the camshaft that I could most easily see, I noticed that I could see marks on it from wear. They were sort of black marks - or dark anyway. I ran my fingernail across them and I don't think I felt anything. Question is: If I had more engine experience, I would know this, but are the marks indicative of unusual or excessive wear? Or are you pretty much going to see that type of thing normally? The odometer is at about 271k mi. The car runs quite well, and the seller claimed a rebuilt engine and trans. My guess is that's a lie. But the way the car runs, though, it feels like new. Easy starting and has power right away pretty much. Somewhat rough and noisy for the first 5 - 8 seconds after startup though. Oh and there's that troublesome ticking that comes and goes every few seconds. Unfortunately, we can't afford to have the oil tested right now, and I don't know what I'd do with the news anyway. Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It's a plot
I think my car is getting concerned that I hire out about all maintenance these days, and wants me to get my hands dirty. The other possibility is that as it turned over 299k miles it started getting vain about hitting the big 30[0] and put a stop to it. For whatever reason, when I got in this morning there was no glow plug light. The strip fuse is good, so I ordered a kit for it. Anything I might be missing here, or tips on putting the new one in? Thanks - BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
15 Nm Luther On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 14:30:38 -0600, Glenn Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I posted a query a couple days ago asking if someone could provide the spec > torque setting for the valve cover bolts on my '84 300D but haven't received > this info. yet. Does anyone have the engine book where you can look this up > and provide this info.? TIA > > G. M. Brown > Brevard, NC > -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 05-210.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1022165 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080207/4869dd93/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
yeah, you're going to have to wait for the release of the SEL version of the Smart. ;-) Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > but rather to stick it on the roof so all can > see. Smart will sell you a dandy little roof rack system to do that too > Our tandem bike is about 100" long, and it would sure look funny up > there > being almost as long as the Smart! hahahahahaa! > > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR > 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
Yeah, there's been a lot of talk about pricing in Canada, especially now that our dollars are pretty much on par. There have been several articles in publications, asking why we pay more here, and no one can seem to offer a good reason, other than we put up with it, so want not. I've read articles where higher end cars, such as a Porsche GT3 can cost as much as $30,000 less to buy new and bring in from the US, taxes and all, than buying local. I think it's been said before, in many parts of the world, a mercedes is just a good dependable car, but here, even the lower end models have been marketed as lux items. Once a product gets the reputation, it's pretty much like stamping "For Marine Use" on it. Doesn't matter what it is, the price just doubled. hee hee. Ed 300E > taxi :-) On 07/02/2008, John M McIntosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:57 AM, E M wrote: > > > I'm in Canada. Toyota offer cars almost as good economy, but more > > space and > > just more car in general. While advertised starting at 12, I've > > never seen > > one for that. Used they sell for more here. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > Ah, well pricing in canada was much higher, in fact a fully optioned > out model could run upwards of $24K > Something about canada niche market, sell a few 100, oh look sell > 10,000 why change price? > > Pricing now is less, but more than USA. Our smart dealer had some > material about why buying the > higher priced cdn model was better than buying cheaper USA model > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
but rather to stick it on the roof so all can see. Smart will sell you a dandy little roof rack system to do that too Our tandem bike is about 100" long, and it would sure look funny up there being almost as long as the Smart! hahahahahaa! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
On Feb 7, 2008, at 10:57 AM, E M wrote: > I'm in Canada. Toyota offer cars almost as good economy, but more > space and > just more car in general. While advertised starting at 12, I've > never seen > one for that. Used they sell for more here. > > Ed > 300E Ah, well pricing in canada was much higher, in fact a fully optioned out model could run upwards of $24K Something about canada niche market, sell a few 100, oh look sell 10,000 why change price? Pricing now is less, but more than USA. Our smart dealer had some material about why buying the higher priced cdn model was better than buying cheaper USA model ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
If you know the size of the fastener and the thread you can generally look up the appropriate torque on a chart. If it did not come with your torque wrench, then look on the net. Alternatively, as has been said, just tighten to snug and then check them a couple of times after you have run it a bit to see if they are staying tight. Shouldn't be the sort of thing where there is any real magic to it. Too many variables for accurate torque in a lot of areas anyway - especially with low numbers, I would think. My experience with non MB products is that they often loosen a bit. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Allan Streib Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:43 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque "Glenn Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I posted a query a couple days ago asking if someone could provide > the spec torque setting for the valve cover bolts on my '84 300D but > haven't received this info. yet. Does anyone have the engine book > where you can look this up and provide this info.? TIA Glenn, sorry I do not know the exact answer but I would say just a little more than snug -- maybe 5 lb-ft ?? All you need is for the gasket to be pressed enough to prevent oil leaks. Since it's a cast aluminum cover, I don't think you want to clamp down too hard for fear of cracking it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
"Glenn Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I posted a query a couple days ago asking if someone could provide > the spec torque setting for the valve cover bolts on my '84 300D but > haven't received this info. yet. Does anyone have the engine book > where you can look this up and provide this info.? TIA Glenn, sorry I do not know the exact answer but I would say just a little more than snug -- maybe 5 lb-ft ?? All you need is for the gasket to be pressed enough to prevent oil leaks. Since it's a cast aluminum cover, I don't think you want to clamp down too hard for fear of cracking it. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] valve cover bolts tightening torque
I posted a query a couple days ago asking if someone could provide the spec torque setting for the valve cover bolts on my '84 300D but haven't received this info. yet. Does anyone have the engine book where you can look this up and provide this info.? TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
And eliminate the tow most are getting behind big trucks on the highway. lol Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Somehow you would need to convert this comparison to cost per gallon > to factor in that only the Smart requires premium fuel. Somehow I > think the Smart would end up at the bottom. > > On 2/7/08, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > > > > 2) what comparably priced cars get better fuel economy than a Smart? > > > > Smart = 33/40 EPA. > > Aveo = 24/34 EPA > > Yaris = 29/36 EPA > > > > My Horizon matched the Aveo, but that was on a different scale. > > The 1989 base Metro was something like 48/56, but again, the same > > car got higher numbers on the old rating system. > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > Note: Dealer retail price is $12 K for the Plus2 Pure to 18K for the > > > Passion. Not sure about the Cabriolet pricing. The basic Pure model > has > > > manual windows, no radio, no AC (not kidding), and manual starter with > a > > > crank like the Model T (kidding!) The Passion is loaded. > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 12:04 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Few years back, Subaru required premium fuels here too, and it put a > lot > > > > of > > > > buyers off. I hear most now run on regular, other than their "hot" > cars. > > > > All my cars run on premium, but I don't really mind. Here, they cut > the > > > > lower grades with ethynol, so you're paying for gas, and yet getting > > > > something with less bang for you buck, or less bang per litre > anyway. > > > > Some > > > > stations cut everything, but the one I use cuts there regular by up > to > > > > 10%, > > > > and their mid grade by up to 5%, while premium is not cut at all. > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > 911SC > > > > > > > > On 07/02/2008, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned > to > > > > > burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/7/08, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after > good > > > > fuel > > > > > > economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper > and > > > > are > > > > > as > > > > > > just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close > enough > > > > > to > > > > > > makes no difference". > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > 300E > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks > them > > > > and > > > > > has > > > > > > > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering > and > > > > then > > > > > > > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels > yet and > > > > > not > > > > > > > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel > > > > economy > > > > > is > > > > > > > less than one would expect? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > both those colors are neat. > > > > > > > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be > too > > > > > awfully > > > > > > > > noticeable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > > > > > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > > > > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > > > > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > > > > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E > 4Matic, > > > > > > > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 > 380SE > > > > > 5.0Euro, > > > > > > > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D,
[MBZ] 1979 240D Parts Car
Engine problems thought it was a blown gasket, pulled had it looked at still over heats and getting pressure build up in the coolong. Car has 130K on it. Well maintained. Tranny is fine No rust structrually and very very little rust on surface. Interior is exceptional. Engine swap or could put a 617 with a turbo in it. Call me if you are interested. I can give the details. Asking $650 I also have around $900 (we can negociate) worth of new and used parts for a 1977-1980 300D and 1977-1980 240D to b sold as a lot. I also have a complete Mercedes Benz shop manual libraray witha about 20 volumes. I can email a list to you Tom Scordato Bellefonte PA 814 353 1857 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers
"Ed Booher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (Note I'm not saying it can't be done on Windows, but I know from > exp. that it takes a heck of a lot more work to get it happening > than it should on modern hardware with a modern OS, and UNIX was > built in the 70's.) It's klunky on windows, I think you have to use Citrix or some such software, whereas X11 allowes remote display natively, very easy to mix and match local and remote apps seamlessly, you can secure the remote ones over SSH if you need to, etc. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
Somehow you would need to convert this comparison to cost per gallon to factor in that only the Smart requires premium fuel. Somehow I think the Smart would end up at the bottom. On 2/7/08, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > andrew strasfogel wrote: > > > > 2) what comparably priced cars get better fuel economy than a Smart? > > Smart = 33/40 EPA. > Aveo = 24/34 EPA > Yaris = 29/36 EPA > > My Horizon matched the Aveo, but that was on a different scale. > The 1989 base Metro was something like 48/56, but again, the same > car got higher numbers on the old rating system. > > Mitch. > > > > Note: Dealer retail price is $12 K for the Plus2 Pure to 18K for the > > Passion. Not sure about the Cabriolet pricing. The basic Pure model has > > manual windows, no radio, no AC (not kidding), and manual starter with a > > crank like the Model T (kidding!) The Passion is loaded. > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 12:04 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Few years back, Subaru required premium fuels here too, and it put a lot > > > of > > > buyers off. I hear most now run on regular, other than their "hot" cars. > > > All my cars run on premium, but I don't really mind. Here, they cut the > > > lower grades with ethynol, so you're paying for gas, and yet getting > > > something with less bang for you buck, or less bang per litre anyway. > > > Some > > > stations cut everything, but the one I use cuts there regular by up to > > > 10%, > > > and their mid grade by up to 5%, while premium is not cut at all. > > > > > > Ed > > > 911SC > > > > > > On 07/02/2008, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to > > > > burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/7/08, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after good > > > fuel > > > > > economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper and > > > are > > > > as > > > > > just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close enough > > > > to > > > > > makes no difference". > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > 300E > > > > > > > > > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them > > > and > > > > has > > > > > > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and > > > then > > > > > > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet and > > > > not > > > > > > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel > > > economy > > > > is > > > > > > less than one would expect? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > both those colors are neat. > > > > > > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too > > > > awfully > > > > > > > noticeable. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > > > > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > > > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > > > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > > > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > > > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > > > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > > > > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE > > > > 5.0Euro, > > > > > > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 > > > > 240D, > > > > > > > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscri
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
At 01:40 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote: >On Feb 7, 2008 10:05 AM, Frederick W Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >My experience > > is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too > > aggressively > >We must have been separated at birth! I'm afraid that describes my >driving perfectly. Must be why I can never get better than 27 mpg out >of my W124 no matter how hard I try. > >Alex Chamberlain >'87 300D Turbo et al. Alex. Separated at birth would explain a lot of things. You must be the one I blame everything on! Of course, you must realize that I was born upside down, my nose runs and my feet smell! Fred Moir Lynn MA Disel thingamabobz. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
I'm in Canada. Toyota offer cars almost as good economy, but more space and just more car in general. While advertised starting at 12, I've never seen one for that. Used they sell for more here. Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ed: > > 1) where is "here"? > 2) what comparably priced cars get better fuel economy than a Smart? > Note: Dealer retail price is $12 K for the Plus2 Pure to 18K for the > Passion. Not sure about the Cabriolet pricing. The basic Pure model has > manual windows, no radio, no AC (not kidding), and manual starter with a > crank like the Model T (kidding!) The Passion is loaded. > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 12:04 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Few years back, Subaru required premium fuels here too, and it put a lot > > of > > buyers off. I hear most now run on regular, other than their "hot" > cars. > > All my cars run on premium, but I don't really mind. Here, they cut the > > lower grades with ethynol, so you're paying for gas, and yet getting > > something with less bang for you buck, or less bang per litre anyway. > > Some > > stations cut everything, but the one I use cuts there regular by up to > > 10%, > > and their mid grade by up to 5%, while premium is not cut at all. > > > > Ed > > 911SC > > > > On 07/02/2008, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to > > > burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? > > > > > > > > > On 2/7/08, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after good > > fuel > > > > economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper and > > are > > > as > > > > just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close > enough > > > to > > > > makes no difference". > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > 300E > > > > > > > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them > > and > > > has > > > > > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and > > then > > > > > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet > and > > > not > > > > > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel > > economy > > > is > > > > > less than one would expect? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > both those colors are neat. > > > > > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too > > > awfully > > > > > > noticeable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > > > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > > > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE > > > 5.0Euro, > > > > > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, > 76 > > > 240D, > > > > > > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change deliver
Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers
On Feb 7, 2008 10:46 AM, Ed Booher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Note I'm not saying it can't be done on Windows, but I know from exp. that > it takes a heck of a lot more work to get it happening than it should on > modern hardware with a modern OS, and UNIX was built in the 70's.) And the end product is, in my observation, slower and clunkier than it should be, too. I really detest the fact that every large organization I have to deal with these days seems to run Windows Terminal Server. I lost 20 minutes of my life yesterday at a hospital, for example, waiting for a nurse to update my girlfriend's patient records through a clumsy point-and-click database interface running on some kind of diskless thin client equipment. I could see, reflected in her glasses, how slow the screen was redrawing every time she clicked to go to another window. It doesn't have to be this way, but it's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better. These kind of systems are only going to be installed in more and more places from now on. People think computerized interfaces to cars like Mercedes' Comand and BMW's iDrive are bad now---just wait until they're all built on Microsoft embedded OSs. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT old Chevettes
If you're in canada, you'll understand that my car was known as the "Molly Maid Mobile" lol Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, the brakes and exhaust were the only major expenses. Th brake > (shoes > and rums??) cost roughly triple what my Mercedes pads cost to replace and > lasted fewer miles than MB pads. IIRC we had a glove box and door (we had > the upgraded coupe model, not the Scooter). The hatchback was neat for > hauling junk with the rear seat folded down. All in all, it was 70s high > tech at its mundane best. I went to Midas and recall replacing exhaust > components several times under warranty. > > > On Feb 7, 2008 10:19 AM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I remember the weak bits being the brakes and exhaust. Mine was > subjected > > to lots of stop and go city driving, which isn't the best for either > part. > > But the engine and tranny would just go forever with nothing more than > oil > > changes once in awhile. GM worked very hard to remind you how little > you > > paid. The thing that always got me was no glovebox door. Reason being, > > was > > to keep costs down. lol. If one was fitted to the standards of other > > interior bits, it wouldn't have used more plastic than a recyclable milk > > jug > > and 5 seconds of time to install it. As I said, they constantly wanted > to > > remind you how little you paid, or maybe they were just trying to help > > promote Japanese cars in that segment at the time. It worked. lol > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Drove a brand new 1976 Chevette off the lot without even attempting to > > > bargain with JKJ Motors in Tysons Corner, VA. Talk about naive! The > > > salesman was in such shock that he voluntarily threw in free > > rustproofing. > > > Well, the car performed so reliably we kept it until 1982, by which > time > > > we > > > had saved enough by not making car payments to afford our first > > Mercedes, > > > a > > > blue 1973 280. Great car! We sold it a year later for $1500 more > than > > we > > > paid, although we put that much into repairs during the year we owned > > it. > > > This was the first of 10 that we have owned over the years. > > > > > > On Feb 6, 2008 11:30 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:14:12 -0500 "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I had one, and it was pretty hard to fault. What did break, cost > > > > > nothing to fix. How can you grumble about rotor wear when new > ones > > > cost > > > > > $20 or less. lol My girlfriend at the time preferred it over my > > > > > porsche. You had to try pretty hard to blow one of the engines up > > > too. > > > > > I know several guys with all stock ones with over 500,000 kms on > > them. > > > > > I miss my old Shove-it, it never let me down. I have thought > about > > > > > getting one and restoring it, just for old times sake. :-) Oh, > > reason > > > I > > > > > bought it in the first place, only small car I could find with > rear > > > > > wheel drive, so I could throttle steer it in the rain and snow, > AND, > > > the > > > > > ONLY car I ever got a speeding ticket in Go figure. LOL > > > > > > > > The generator set I built has a propane-fired Chevette engine as the > > > prime > > > > mover. > > > > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
andrew strasfogel wrote: > > 2) what comparably priced cars get better fuel economy than a Smart? Smart = 33/40 EPA. Aveo = 24/34 EPA Yaris = 29/36 EPA My Horizon matched the Aveo, but that was on a different scale. The 1989 base Metro was something like 48/56, but again, the same car got higher numbers on the old rating system. Mitch. > Note: Dealer retail price is $12 K for the Plus2 Pure to 18K for the > Passion. Not sure about the Cabriolet pricing. The basic Pure model has > manual windows, no radio, no AC (not kidding), and manual starter with a > crank like the Model T (kidding!) The Passion is loaded. > > On Feb 7, 2008 12:04 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Few years back, Subaru required premium fuels here too, and it put a lot > > of > > buyers off. I hear most now run on regular, other than their "hot" cars. > > All my cars run on premium, but I don't really mind. Here, they cut the > > lower grades with ethynol, so you're paying for gas, and yet getting > > something with less bang for you buck, or less bang per litre anyway. > > Some > > stations cut everything, but the one I use cuts there regular by up to > > 10%, > > and their mid grade by up to 5%, while premium is not cut at all. > > > > Ed > > 911SC > > > > On 07/02/2008, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to > > > burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? > > > > > > > > > On 2/7/08, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after good > > fuel > > > > economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper and > > are > > > as > > > > just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close enough > > > to > > > > makes no difference". > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > 300E > > > > > > > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them > > and > > > has > > > > > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and > > then > > > > > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet and > > > not > > > > > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel > > economy > > > is > > > > > less than one would expect? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > both those colors are neat. > > > > > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too > > > awfully > > > > > > noticeable. > > > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > > > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > > > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE > > > 5.0Euro, > > > > > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 > > > 240D, > > > > > > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > > > http
Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers
On Feb 1, 2008 10:55 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you don't use a GUI you can do a surprising amount of "business > computing" on very modest hardware. > > Allan > Even if you do use a GUI you can do a surprising amount of business computing on modest hardware. You wouldn't see a TRS-80 in deployment today, per se, but I've got an old P75 system that runs some modern software with a very light weight X11R6 implementation and using WindowMaker as a light window manager that runs as snappy *feeling wise* as my B&W G3 running Tiger. (OS X 10.4) A company does *not* need Vista on a corporate wide desktop system to be able to perform work functions. As late 1996, 1997, the Sun Microsystems office here in Indianapolis was still using a SparcStation IPX on the receptionist's desk. That's one of the greatest assets of any UNIX based system anyway. It was designed as a mainframe to terminal system. So computation was done server side. Today you can still set up a UNIX environment to run heavy apps on the newest, fastest hardware money can buy and have far older systems running light weight desktop feature sets with light apps running local and make it all look like it's happening on the user desktop easier than a Windows environment. (Note I'm not saying it can't be done on Windows, but I know from exp. that it takes a heck of a lot more work to get it happening than it should on modern hardware with a modern OS, and UNIX was built in the 70's.) Ed -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
On Feb 7, 2008 10:05 AM, Frederick W Moir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >My experience > is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too > aggressively We must have been separated at birth! I'm afraid that describes my driving perfectly. Must be why I can never get better than 27 mpg out of my W124 no matter how hard I try. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: auto-darkening welding mask
I think thats the one I got for Christmas. Its great, I really like it. So much easier than the crappy little thing they give you with the welder. Darkens instantly and has an adjustable delay for brightening. -Curt Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2008 09:52:43 -0500 From: Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [MBZ] OT: auto-darkening welding masks To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Saw this in the latest spam from Northern Tools... Any comments on whether this would be OK for "occasional" non-professional use? http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod uct_6970_200311850_200311850 What does it mean that it's "solar" powered -- it will recharge from the light of the arc? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why america is finished NOW SEARS
On Feb 5, 2008 10:11 AM, Tom Hargrave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But get away from the bottom end products sold by Sears and a few others > and > you'll still find quality tools. And if it's not made in China then I'd be > willing to bet that if it's a power tool or cabinet, major parts were made > somewhere in Asia and have been since before you and I were born. > Thanks, > Tom Hargrave > www.kegkits.com > 256-656-1924 Snap On Ed -- "I'm a Night Elf Mohawk!" - Mr. T. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
Radical chic! On Feb 7, 2008 12:50 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No no no, you don't understand, the idea isn't to stow your new Mercedes > bicycle away inside the car, but rather to stick it on the roof so all can > see. Smart will sell you a dandy little roof rack system to do that too I > think. And dont' forget a few Mercedes stainless travel mugs. Gotta have > one of those to hand to the girl at Starbucks so she can put your morning > latte in it. And pay for it by swiping your Visa/Mercedes card for your > smart points, which you can later exchange for many fine products, or > carbon > credits, for the G55 in the garage at home. hee hee > > Ed > 300E > > On 07/02/2008, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > R A Bennell wrote: > > > Seems a bit useless to me with no back seat and not much room to haul > > > anything either. > > > > > > My Plymouth Horizon had a 99" wheelbase, the 4-2 has a 106" length. > > That means it stretches from the leading edge of a Horizon's front rim > > to its back axle. I'd rather drop a VW TDI drivetrain in a Horizon > > than pay $13k for a 4-2. Interesting to me is that the 4-2 matches > > the weight of the first car I ever owned, an auto tranny 1488cc > > 1975 Civic Hatchback. (The Civic's title said 1850lb) The Civic > > could carry more than 7 cubic feet of stuff behind the back seat, > > and it held more than 8.7 gallons of fuel. With the back seat folded, > > I could stick a bicycle in the Civic after removing the front wheel. > > Try that in a Smart. > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
Ed: 1) where is "here"? 2) what comparably priced cars get better fuel economy than a Smart? Note: Dealer retail price is $12 K for the Plus2 Pure to 18K for the Passion. Not sure about the Cabriolet pricing. The basic Pure model has manual windows, no radio, no AC (not kidding), and manual starter with a crank like the Model T (kidding!) The Passion is loaded. On Feb 7, 2008 12:04 PM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Few years back, Subaru required premium fuels here too, and it put a lot > of > buyers off. I hear most now run on regular, other than their "hot" cars. > All my cars run on premium, but I don't really mind. Here, they cut the > lower grades with ethynol, so you're paying for gas, and yet getting > something with less bang for you buck, or less bang per litre anyway. > Some > stations cut everything, but the one I use cuts there regular by up to > 10%, > and their mid grade by up to 5%, while premium is not cut at all. > > Ed > 911SC > > On 07/02/2008, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to > > burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? > > > > > > On 2/7/08, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after good > fuel > > > economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper and > are > > as > > > just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close enough > > to > > > makes no difference". > > > > > > Ed > > > 300E > > > > > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them > and > > has > > > > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and > then > > > > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet and > > not > > > > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel > economy > > is > > > > less than one would expect? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > both those colors are neat. > > > > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too > > awfully > > > > > noticeable. > > > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE > > 5.0Euro, > > > > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 > > 240D, > > > > > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > >
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
perhaps Frederick W Moir wrote: > Kaleb. > That is true, however you probably drive in a more restrained manner > which must use less fuel? > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Public Enema #1 > > At 01:17 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote: >> my 124 2.5 turbo gets that, and its much bigger and smoother probably. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
Kaleb. That is true, however you probably drive in a more restrained manner which must use less fuel? Fred Moir Lynn MA Public Enema #1 At 01:17 PM 2/7/2008, you wrote: >my 124 2.5 turbo gets that, and its much bigger and smoother probably. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT old Chevettes
Yes, the brakes and exhaust were the only major expenses. Th brake (shoes and rums??) cost roughly triple what my Mercedes pads cost to replace and lasted fewer miles than MB pads. IIRC we had a glove box and door (we had the upgraded coupe model, not the Scooter). The hatchback was neat for hauling junk with the rear seat folded down. All in all, it was 70s high tech at its mundane best. I went to Midas and recall replacing exhaust components several times under warranty. On Feb 7, 2008 10:19 AM, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I remember the weak bits being the brakes and exhaust. Mine was subjected > to lots of stop and go city driving, which isn't the best for either part. > But the engine and tranny would just go forever with nothing more than oil > changes once in awhile. GM worked very hard to remind you how little you > paid. The thing that always got me was no glovebox door. Reason being, > was > to keep costs down. lol. If one was fitted to the standards of other > interior bits, it wouldn't have used more plastic than a recyclable milk > jug > and 5 seconds of time to install it. As I said, they constantly wanted to > remind you how little you paid, or maybe they were just trying to help > promote Japanese cars in that segment at the time. It worked. lol > > Ed > 300E > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Drove a brand new 1976 Chevette off the lot without even attempting to > > bargain with JKJ Motors in Tysons Corner, VA. Talk about naive! The > > salesman was in such shock that he voluntarily threw in free > rustproofing. > > Well, the car performed so reliably we kept it until 1982, by which time > > we > > had saved enough by not making car payments to afford our first > Mercedes, > > a > > blue 1973 280. Great car! We sold it a year later for $1500 more than > we > > paid, although we put that much into repairs during the year we owned > it. > > This was the first of 10 that we have owned over the years. > > > > On Feb 6, 2008 11:30 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:14:12 -0500 "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I had one, and it was pretty hard to fault. What did break, cost > > > > nothing to fix. How can you grumble about rotor wear when new ones > > cost > > > > $20 or less. lol My girlfriend at the time preferred it over my > > > > porsche. You had to try pretty hard to blow one of the engines up > > too. > > > > I know several guys with all stock ones with over 500,000 kms on > them. > > > > I miss my old Shove-it, it never let me down. I have thought about > > > > getting one and restoring it, just for old times sake. :-) Oh, > reason > > I > > > > bought it in the first place, only small car I could find with rear > > > > wheel drive, so I could throttle steer it in the rain and snow, AND, > > the > > > > ONLY car I ever got a speeding ticket in Go figure. LOL > > > > > > The generator set I built has a propane-fired Chevette engine as the > > prime > > > mover. > > > > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
my 124 2.5 turbo gets that, and its much bigger and smoother probably. Frederick W Moir wrote: > Hi, Kaleb et al. > 190DT 87, have 2, one bent and one responding to tlc. My experience > is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too > aggressively and this is aided and abetted by a car that corners as > if on rails. Goes fast for a 4 door and gets 31/32 mpg on diesel! > (besotted I am). > FWIW > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > > > At 11:05 AM 2/7/2008, you wrote: >> Anybody got one of these? Is it fun? What kind of mileage? What kind >> of get up and go? If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe. >> -- >> Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
No no no, you don't understand, the idea isn't to stow your new Mercedes bicycle away inside the car, but rather to stick it on the roof so all can see. Smart will sell you a dandy little roof rack system to do that too I think. And dont' forget a few Mercedes stainless travel mugs. Gotta have one of those to hand to the girl at Starbucks so she can put your morning latte in it. And pay for it by swiping your Visa/Mercedes card for your smart points, which you can later exchange for many fine products, or carbon credits, for the G55 in the garage at home. hee hee Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > R A Bennell wrote: > > Seems a bit useless to me with no back seat and not much room to haul > > anything either. > > > My Plymouth Horizon had a 99" wheelbase, the 4-2 has a 106" length. > That means it stretches from the leading edge of a Horizon's front rim > to its back axle. I'd rather drop a VW TDI drivetrain in a Horizon > than pay $13k for a 4-2. Interesting to me is that the 4-2 matches > the weight of the first car I ever owned, an auto tranny 1488cc > 1975 Civic Hatchback. (The Civic's title said 1850lb) The Civic > could carry more than 7 cubic feet of stuff behind the back seat, > and it held more than 8.7 gallons of fuel. With the back seat folded, > I could stick a bicycle in the Civic after removing the front wheel. > Try that in a Smart. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
We have tonnes of them running around town here. Lots of guys in them too. You just know, these same guys were driving bugs with tweed jackets 35 years ago. they're just fashion things here for the most part, many share garage space with Land Rovers and big German sedans. Just as it was common to find a Mini sharing a garage with a Roller in London 40 years ago. I think a Smart is fine for what it is, if a little over priced for what you get. Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, R A Bennell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They seem to appeal to women. My wife thinks they are cool and wants one > too. I'm not convinced. Seems a bit > useless to me with no back seat and not much room to haul anything either. > Cute, but I am not really a small car > fan. > > Randy > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:54 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo > > > I think the point is to sell these things to people who feeel good > about them and the "cool" factor -- triumph of marketing over common > sense (but it IS an election year). > > --R > > Mitch Haley wrote: > > John Freer wrote: > > > >> To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to > >> burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? > >> > > > > I didn't catch that. I noticed they beat the 1989 Geo Metro by 14hp, > > but I didn't realize they cheated. 70hp/liter isn't impressive if it > > uses premium. My detuned USA market 190E makes 167/2.3=73hp per liter, > > and it's 22 years old. I believe the 185hp euro version runs fine on > > our gas. My mom's 2005 Chevy Classic is 145/2.2 = 66hp/L, and it runs > > on regular. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
Few years back, Subaru required premium fuels here too, and it put a lot of buyers off. I hear most now run on regular, other than their "hot" cars. All my cars run on premium, but I don't really mind. Here, they cut the lower grades with ethynol, so you're paying for gas, and yet getting something with less bang for you buck, or less bang per litre anyway. Some stations cut everything, but the one I use cuts there regular by up to 10%, and their mid grade by up to 5%, while premium is not cut at all. Ed 911SC On 07/02/2008, John Freer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to > burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? > > > On 2/7/08, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after good fuel > > economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper and are > as > > just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close enough > to > > makes no difference". > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them and > has > > > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and then > > > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet and > not > > > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel economy > is > > > less than one would expect? > > > > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > both those colors are neat. > > > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too > awfully > > > > noticeable. > > > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE > 5.0Euro, > > > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 > 240D, > > > > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > F
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
Hi, Kaleb et al. 190DT 87, have 2, one bent and one responding to tlc. My experience is probably not too typical, I drive either half asleep or too aggressively and this is aided and abetted by a car that corners as if on rails. Goes fast for a 4 door and gets 31/32 mpg on diesel! (besotted I am). FWIW Fred Moir Lynn MA At 11:05 AM 2/7/2008, you wrote: >Anybody got one of these? Is it fun? What kind of mileage? What kind >of get up and go? If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe. >-- >Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
R A Bennell wrote: > Seems a bit useless to me with no back seat and not much room to haul > anything either. My Plymouth Horizon had a 99" wheelbase, the 4-2 has a 106" length. That means it stretches from the leading edge of a Horizon's front rim to its back axle. I'd rather drop a VW TDI drivetrain in a Horizon than pay $13k for a 4-2. Interesting to me is that the 4-2 matches the weight of the first car I ever owned, an auto tranny 1488cc 1975 Civic Hatchback. (The Civic's title said 1850lb) The Civic could carry more than 7 cubic feet of stuff behind the back seat, and it held more than 8.7 gallons of fuel. With the back seat folded, I could stick a bicycle in the Civic after removing the front wheel. Try that in a Smart. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey look what I did
I think your first project should be to put a "TCB" logo on the benz ashtray. hee hee. Do it for the King. ;-) Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I did some name plates and some other things, and crushed up some > turquoise and mixed the little bits with epoxy (colored black with some > laser printer toner) and put that stuff in the engraved lettering, > sanded them down (which exposes the turquoise) and put some tung oil on > them. They look way cool, especially on a dark wood. Maybe I'll try > that with the Benz logo, make some bling. > > > --R > > > E M wrote: > > Cool!! Bet you could have a nice little business on the side cutting > names > > or logos into the centre wood consoles and other bits. Yeah, little > stars on > > the door wood trim, and then back filled with black pain. > > > > Ed > > 300E > > > > On 06/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Someone posted a link to this back some time ago, I did magic on it and > >> cut it on the CNC machine a little while ago. The logo is about 5" > >> wide, 3.5" high on a scrap of maple plywood with a bit of light stain > to > >> bring out the cuts. I might have to make a nice box and put this on > the > >> lid. It would probably do better on a solid piece of wood. Or maybe a > >> piece of aluminum sheeth. > >> > >> Don't tell the Benz lawyers, I'll probably get sued... > >> > >> Oh, BTW, anyone have any idea what sort of font might closely match > what > >> is used on trunk logos? If I can't find a font match I might have to > >> just make some. > >> > >> --R > >> -- next part -- > >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > >> Name: DSC03932 (Small).JPG > >> Type: image/jpeg > >> Size: 51333 bytes > >> Desc: not available > >> Url : > >> > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/7c68d2d8/attachment.jpe > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
They seem to appeal to women. My wife thinks they are cool and wants one too. I'm not convinced. Seems a bit useless to me with no back seat and not much room to haul anything either. Cute, but I am not really a small car fan. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:54 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo I think the point is to sell these things to people who feeel good about them and the "cool" factor -- triumph of marketing over common sense (but it IS an election year). --R Mitch Haley wrote: > John Freer wrote: > >> To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to >> burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? >> > > I didn't catch that. I noticed they beat the 1989 Geo Metro by 14hp, > but I didn't realize they cheated. 70hp/liter isn't impressive if it > uses premium. My detuned USA market 190E makes 167/2.3=73hp per liter, > and it's 22 years old. I believe the 185hp euro version runs fine on > our gas. My mom's 2005 Chevy Classic is 145/2.2 = 66hp/L, and it runs > on regular. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
I think the point is to sell these things to people who feeel good about them and the "cool" factor -- triumph of marketing over common sense (but it IS an election year). --R Mitch Haley wrote: > John Freer wrote: > >> To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to >> burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? >> > > I didn't catch that. I noticed they beat the 1989 Geo Metro by 14hp, > but I didn't realize they cheated. 70hp/liter isn't impressive if it > uses premium. My detuned USA market 190E makes 167/2.3=73hp per liter, > and it's 22 years old. I believe the 185hp euro version runs fine on > our gas. My mom's 2005 Chevy Classic is 145/2.2 = 66hp/L, and it runs > on regular. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey look what I did
I did some name plates and some other things, and crushed up some turquoise and mixed the little bits with epoxy (colored black with some laser printer toner) and put that stuff in the engraved lettering, sanded them down (which exposes the turquoise) and put some tung oil on them. They look way cool, especially on a dark wood. Maybe I'll try that with the Benz logo, make some bling. --R E M wrote: > Cool!! Bet you could have a nice little business on the side cutting names > or logos into the centre wood consoles and other bits. Yeah, little stars on > the door wood trim, and then back filled with black pain. > > Ed > 300E > > On 06/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Someone posted a link to this back some time ago, I did magic on it and >> cut it on the CNC machine a little while ago. The logo is about 5" >> wide, 3.5" high on a scrap of maple plywood with a bit of light stain to >> bring out the cuts. I might have to make a nice box and put this on the >> lid. It would probably do better on a solid piece of wood. Or maybe a >> piece of aluminum sheeth. >> >> Don't tell the Benz lawyers, I'll probably get sued... >> >> Oh, BTW, anyone have any idea what sort of font might closely match what >> is used on trunk logos? If I can't find a font match I might have to >> just make some. >> >> --R >> -- next part -- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: DSC03932 (Small).JPG >> Type: image/jpeg >> Size: 51333 bytes >> Desc: not available >> Url : >> http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/7c68d2d8/attachment.jpe >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ >> For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Smart ForTwo
John Freer wrote: > > To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to > burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? I didn't catch that. I noticed they beat the 1989 Geo Metro by 14hp, but I didn't realize they cheated. 70hp/liter isn't impressive if it uses premium. My detuned USA market 190E makes 167/2.3=73hp per liter, and it's 22 years old. I believe the 185hp euro version runs fine on our gas. My mom's 2005 Chevy Classic is 145/2.2 = 66hp/L, and it runs on regular. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
To add insult to injury, that 3 cylinder Mitsu gas engine is tuned to burn premium fuelwhat were they thinking? On 2/7/08, E M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after good fuel > economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper and are as > just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close enough to > makes no difference". > > Ed > 300E > > On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them and has > > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and then > > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet and not > > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel economy is > > less than one would expect? > > > > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > both those colors are neat. > > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too awfully > > > noticeable. > > > > > > Brian > > > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > -- > > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0Euro, > > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > > > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
"Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > > Anybody got one of these? Is it fun? What kind of mileage? What kind > of get up and go? If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe. I've never driven mine faster than walking pace, but from what I recall, they are supposed to accelerate to 100kph like a 1987 300D, with fuel economy maybe 10% better than a 1990-93 300D. The W124/OM603 has it beat for top speed. It has less back seat room than a Dodge Omni, but you already knew that. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 190D 2.5 turbo
Anybody got one of these? Is it fun? What kind of mileage? What kind of get up and go? If one was to turn up reasonable, I might buy one maybe. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: auto-darkening welding masks
That's similar to what I use. The solar cell directly powers the darkening feature from the light of the arc. Otherwise you need batteries and a light sensor. They work well. They are never totally transparent so you do need light to see through them when not in dark-mode. Working outside in sunshine works fine. -Dave Walton On Feb 7, 2008 9:52 AM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Saw this in the latest spam from Northern Tools... > > Any comments on whether this would be OK for "occasional" > non-professional use? > > http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod > uct_6970_200311850_200311850 > > What does it mean that it's "solar" powered -- it will recharge from > the light of the arc? > > > Allan > -- > 1983 300D > 1966 230 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mercedes related!!
Guess you could always swap the front and back ones around to see if it helps. You use the front doors much more than the back anyway. Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, Fmiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I know it seem a bit odd that the moving parts are fine and > > > the "lump of steel" is worn out - but that has been the > > > solution every time for me. > > > > They're adjustable on the frame, so you can try that first. > > It is possible that if the rubber in it hardens up such that > > it won't move enough anymore the closing force ends up working > > it in too far on the frame, then it closes difficulty. Adjust, > > but it'll get pounded in again shortly? A guess. > > > > -- Jim > > The first two I tried just adjusting. The ones since then I > haven't bother. But I'm running low on still-good used ones, so > one day soon I'll get one or two from Rusty. > > Not to say that adjusting won't solve the issue. I recall > someone on the list did fix theirs that way. > > By the way, the front and back door strikes are the same. The > left side strike a mirror-image of the right side strike. > > -- Philip > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fw: See-through Tires
Now that really is something different. Just think, no more bent rims due to potholes in the winter. Great heat dissipation, no worries about blow outs due to under inflation. And forget about trying to find a working air hose at the service station! :-) Ed 300E On 06/02/2008, wilton strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Check these tires/wheels a la '68 moon buggy. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - > From: Larry Jinnette > To: Wilton > Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:55 PM > Subject: See-through Tires > > > Hey Wilt.these will look great with those spinning hubcaps. > > > > > > > > The See-through Tires > Radical new tire design by Michelin. The next generation of tires. > > They had a pair at the Philadelphia car show. > > airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon. > > The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on > these tires. > > This is what great R&D will do, and just think of the impact on existing > technology: > > a... no more air valves > b... no more air compressors at gas stations > c... no more repair kits > > SCAN DOWN & SEE. > > These are actual pictures taken in the South Carolina plant of Michelin. > It will be awhile before they are available to automobile industry. > > > > > > > /SPN> > > > > > > > > > > > I find it interesting that our forefathers came across this country on > spokes and although these are flexible spokes, they're still spokes. What > goes around, comes around... > "Those who hammer their guns into plows>> > will plow for those who do not." > - Thomas Jefferson > > > > > -- next part -- > > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 51905 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 72741 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0001.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 59912 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0002.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 55759 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0003.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 107581 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0004.jpe > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: oledata.mso > Type: application/octet-stream > Size: 5602 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment.obj > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hey look what I did
Cool!! Bet you could have a nice little business on the side cutting names or logos into the centre wood consoles and other bits. Yeah, little stars on the door wood trim, and then back filled with black pain. Ed 300E On 06/02/2008, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Someone posted a link to this back some time ago, I did magic on it and > cut it on the CNC machine a little while ago. The logo is about 5" > wide, 3.5" high on a scrap of maple plywood with a bit of light stain to > bring out the cuts. I might have to make a nice box and put this on the > lid. It would probably do better on a solid piece of wood. Or maybe a > piece of aluminum sheeth. > > Don't tell the Benz lawyers, I'll probably get sued... > > Oh, BTW, anyone have any idea what sort of font might closely match what > is used on trunk logos? If I can't find a font match I might have to > just make some. > > --R > -- next part -- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: DSC03932 (Small).JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 51333 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/7c68d2d8/attachment.jpe > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT old Chevettes
I remember the weak bits being the brakes and exhaust. Mine was subjected to lots of stop and go city driving, which isn't the best for either part. But the engine and tranny would just go forever with nothing more than oil changes once in awhile. GM worked very hard to remind you how little you paid. The thing that always got me was no glovebox door. Reason being, was to keep costs down. lol. If one was fitted to the standards of other interior bits, it wouldn't have used more plastic than a recyclable milk jug and 5 seconds of time to install it. As I said, they constantly wanted to remind you how little you paid, or maybe they were just trying to help promote Japanese cars in that segment at the time. It worked. lol Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Drove a brand new 1976 Chevette off the lot without even attempting to > bargain with JKJ Motors in Tysons Corner, VA. Talk about naive! The > salesman was in such shock that he voluntarily threw in free rustproofing. > Well, the car performed so reliably we kept it until 1982, by which time > we > had saved enough by not making car payments to afford our first Mercedes, > a > blue 1973 280. Great car! We sold it a year later for $1500 more than we > paid, although we put that much into repairs during the year we owned it. > This was the first of 10 that we have owned over the years. > > On Feb 6, 2008 11:30 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:14:12 -0500 "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I had one, and it was pretty hard to fault. What did break, cost > > > nothing to fix. How can you grumble about rotor wear when new ones > cost > > > $20 or less. lol My girlfriend at the time preferred it over my > > > porsche. You had to try pretty hard to blow one of the engines up > too. > > > I know several guys with all stock ones with over 500,000 kms on them. > > > I miss my old Shove-it, it never let me down. I have thought about > > > getting one and restoring it, just for old times sake. :-) Oh, reason > I > > > bought it in the first place, only small car I could find with rear > > > wheel drive, so I could throttle steer it in the rain and snow, AND, > the > > > ONLY car I ever got a speeding ticket in Go figure. LOL > > > > The generator set I built has a propane-fired Chevette engine as the > prime > > mover. > > > > > > Craig > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
They are a real fashion thing here, but if you're mostly after good fuel economy, there are cars built as well, that are larger, cheaper and are as just as good on fuel. Or, as Jeremy Clarkson would say, "close enough to makes no difference". Ed 300E On 07/02/2008, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them and has > several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and then > declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet and not > likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel economy is > less than one would expect? > > > On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > both those colors are neat. > > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too awfully > > noticeable. > > > > Brian > > > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > > Bob R. > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > -- > > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0Euro, > > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: auto-darkening welding masks
Saw this in the latest spam from Northern Tools... Any comments on whether this would be OK for "occasional" non-professional use? http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/prod uct_6970_200311850_200311850 What does it mean that it's "solar" powered -- it will recharge from the light of the arc? Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fw: See-through Tires
Check these tires/wheels a la '68 moon buggy. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry Jinnette To: Wilton Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 3:55 PM Subject: See-through Tires Hey Wilt.these will look great with those spinning hubcaps. The See-through Tires Radical new tire design by Michelin. The next generation of tires. They had a pair at the Philadelphia car show. airless and are scheduled to be out on the market very soon. The bad news for law enforcement is that spike strips will not work on these tires. This is what great R&D will do, and just think of the impact on existing technology: a... no more air valves b... no more air compressors at gas stations c... no more repair kits SCAN DOWN & SEE. These are actual pictures taken in the South Carolina plant of Michelin. It will be awhile before they are available to automobile industry. /SPN> I find it interesting that our forefathers came across this country on spokes and although these are flexible spokes, they're still spokes. What goes around, comes around... "Those who hammer their guns into plows>> will plow for those who do not." - Thomas Jefferson -- next part -- -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 51905 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 72741 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0001.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 59912 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0002.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 55759 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0003.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 107581 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment-0004.jpe -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: oledata.mso Type: application/octet-stream Size: 5602 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/2dd78abb/attachment.obj ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Hey look what I did
Someone posted a link to this back some time ago, I did magic on it and cut it on the CNC machine a little while ago. The logo is about 5" wide, 3.5" high on a scrap of maple plywood with a bit of light stain to bring out the cuts. I might have to make a nice box and put this on the lid. It would probably do better on a solid piece of wood. Or maybe a piece of aluminum sheeth. Don't tell the Benz lawyers, I'll probably get sued... Oh, BTW, anyone have any idea what sort of font might closely match what is used on trunk logos? If I can't find a font match I might have to just make some. --R -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: DSC03932 (Small).JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 51333 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080206/7c68d2d8/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission saga - not the end yet
I don't know that one, there are a bunch on Beverly Hills between Chimney Rock and whatever that next street west is -- 1 block north of Westpark, kinda in the same area I think. --R Hans Neureiter wrote: > > The indy I am going to is C & J Mercedes Services on Jenetta near Westpark. > My Ex took the E300D there and they treated her good and fair. Rich, do you > know that shop? > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT old Chevettes
Drove a brand new 1976 Chevette off the lot without even attempting to bargain with JKJ Motors in Tysons Corner, VA. Talk about naive! The salesman was in such shock that he voluntarily threw in free rustproofing. Well, the car performed so reliably we kept it until 1982, by which time we had saved enough by not making car payments to afford our first Mercedes, a blue 1973 280. Great car! We sold it a year later for $1500 more than we paid, although we put that much into repairs during the year we owned it. This was the first of 10 that we have owned over the years. On Feb 6, 2008 11:30 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 15:14:12 -0500 "E M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I had one, and it was pretty hard to fault. What did break, cost > > nothing to fix. How can you grumble about rotor wear when new ones cost > > $20 or less. lol My girlfriend at the time preferred it over my > > porsche. You had to try pretty hard to blow one of the engines up too. > > I know several guys with all stock ones with over 500,000 kms on them. > > I miss my old Shove-it, it never let me down. I have thought about > > getting one and restoring it, just for old times sake. :-) Oh, reason I > > bought it in the first place, only small car I could find with rear > > wheel drive, so I could throttle steer it in the rain and snow, AND, the > > ONLY car I ever got a speeding ticket in Go figure. LOL > > The generator set I built has a propane-fired Chevette engine as the prime > mover. > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
I just found out that EuroMotorcars in Germantown, MD stocks them and has several on the lot. Apparently people have been pre-ordering and then declining to take them after they see the cars. No diesels yet and not likely anytime soon, which is a shame. I wonder why the fuel economy is less than one would expect? On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 AM, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > both those colors are neat. > I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too awfully > noticeable. > > Brian > > On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > > > > Gary Thompson > > 1995 E320 > > > > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > > Bob R. > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > -- > > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [OT] building material
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/SEX-CAPSULES-MEN-free-WIFE-DIDNT-KNOW-WHAT-HIT-HER_W0QQitemZ270208682262QQihZ017QQcategoryZ106751QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Nothing to do with me. Hendrik who lives in SA but doesn't sell herbal pills ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Transmission saga - not the end yet
Original problem was a jammed kick-down cable. The indy buddy who did the engine transplant knew the cable was worn since he had trouble to hook it up at the tranny. Since the transplant 8 months ago the tranny worked super. Smooth shifts with the shift points controlable. Yes, they made it actually better than when I took it there (or worse by bodging the [?] rebuild). When the cable jammed there was no upshift at all. Now its shifting 1 - 2 - 3 - and no 4th. The indy I am going to is C & J Mercedes Services on Jenetta near Westpark. My Ex took the E300D there and they treated her good and fair. Rich, do you know that shop? On 2/6/08, Rich Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I forget -- what was the original symptom? > > On indies -- my buddy took his SL to the "best" shop in Houston > (coughHans'scough) to replace the tranny with one he got from Rusty. > Immediately had problems with the new one, took it back, they said it > was bad and would need to be replaced again (they would charge him > whatever the price was, a lot, again too). So anyway he took it some > old guy at a tranny shop who worked on it, knew Benz trannies, who > discovered they had bodged the install (I forget the details) and it > cost him another $400 to set it right but now the thing works great. If > you want I can find out who the old guy was. My buddy is a lawyer and > was going to make some misery for the shop [coughHanscough] but decided > it wasn't worth the bother. > > --R > > Hans Neureiter wrote: > > There are more lies in this story than Munchausen. > > Fist it needed a Kick-down cable. Than a rebuild. Than the car was > ready, > > but at the last minute the cable was the wrong size. Tells me the guy > never > > installed a new cable but misteriously diagnosed the trannt trashed. > (???) > > Than they had to "FINE TUNE" the valve body.(What's that ?) > > Than they had to get a new valve body. (???) > > Than there was something wrong with the "CORE" and they had to get a new > > one. (???) > > Lastly they can't get the thing to shift into 4th gear and gave up. > > Why does it not shift into 4th? > > I am taking it to an independent Mercedes shop and find out. > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment, latex gloves
That's just how I did it. I would leave a little extra clearance knowing that it would get tighter as the locknut was torqued down. This is why the last few went MUCH more quickly for me. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this is nice
both those colors are neat. I might opt for the dijon-looking yellow - don't want to be too awfully noticeable. Brian On Feb 5, 2008 7:59 AM, Gary Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There's a '76 here on Craigs list too. > > http://austin.craigslist.org/car/563387950.html > > > Gary Thompson > 1995 E320 > > > On 2/4/08, Robert Rentfro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's closer. Maybe it's time to bid a little. > > Bob R. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 7:09 PM > > To: mercedes Mailing List > > Subject: [MBZ] this is nice > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-1975-Mercedes-Benz-3 > > > 00D-Classic-Collectible-LOW-MILEAGE_W0QQitemZ230219981077QQihZ013QQcategoryZ > > 6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > -- > > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > > 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, > > 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, > > 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, > > 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] mercedes related!!
Yes, replace your wife with mine. She'll have 'em slamming real fine. Wait - that sounds a bit dirty. The point is if you want a door slammed, my wife is the person to do it. Actually, she probably wouldn't slam them if I actually did want them slammed. Good luck with your doors, Rick. Brian Rick wrote:Do i need to clean something, adjust something or replace something? thanks, xx rick Rick Hawkins ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
