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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:11:19 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:


 1113 had the lowest HP engine, somehow related to the 13.  the 1116
 and 1316 had more HP.  A 1316 may require a CDL.  A truck with a GVW
 rated 26,000 lb or less do not require a CDL.  26,001 up require a
 CDL.  Best to stay away from CDL.


Why?

Craig


Why what?

why over 26,000 needs a CDL?  Big brother knows better.  Big brother 
has to watch out for you.  Goobers in the big goobermnt know more 
than you.  don't ask.   shhh!  can't let the t*uth out!


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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:11:19 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
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> 1113 had the lowest HP engine, somehow related to the 13.  the 1116 
> and 1316 had more HP.  A 1316 may require a CDL.  A truck with a GVW 
> rated 26,000 lb or less do not require a CDL.  26,001 up require a 
> CDL.  Best to stay away from CDL.

Why?


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Re: [MBZ] Steering position

I think that when I learned to drive, the push-pull was called the shuffle,
and was frowned upon. It was too slow and in-efficient. That was when most
cars didn't have power steering, and it seemed that the average was 8 turns
of the steering wheel, lock to lock. I was learning to fly at the same time
I was learning to drive, and since I thought then (and still do) that
flying was much cooler than driving, I usually drive with thumb and a
finger lightly holding the wheel at 9 and gently applying pressure instead
of moving the wheel. This doesn't work so well when parking, but then it
doesn't work well when slipping the 182 either - you adapt to the situation.
I never heard about the airbag breaking arms, but it does sound plausible -
"we'll break your arm to keep you safe!"

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Top of the wheel was always what my dad did when he was too tired to keep
> driving but too proud to let mom take over.
>
> I was taught what I think you're calling push-pull by one of the car test
> jockeys for a non-car magazine, probably Tom McCahill of Mechanic's
> Illustrated.
> I picked it up shortly before I started driver's education, my teachers,
> if they
> noticed, never mentioned it.
> Back then I did it because it was supposed to be more secure than letting
> go of
> the wheel with one hand and crossing your arms over each other.
> Bring both hands to the top of the wheel, grasping the wheel in one hand
> and
> sliding the wheel through the other, then grasp with the other hand and
> bring
> both hands towards the bottom.
>
> I'm pretty sure they taught me 10 and 2 o'clock in driver's ed, but in
> cockpit
> videos you usually see race drivers at 9 and 3.
> About 25 years ago I read a gripe in Autoweek from a reader who got hit
> backing
> out of a parking spot. He claimed he was holding the top of the wheel in
> his
> left hand while turning his body to look out the back windscreen when the
> bad
> deployed, breaking his arm in multiple places.
> Air bags are weaker now, back then they were required to restrain unbelted
> driver/dummies in crash tests.
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?


Kleb,

Buy it.

I can probably scrounge up 6 tires for you.  I have good tires on 
trailers.  I'd just have to find some carcasses to put on storage 
trailers, or scrap a trailer.


If the engine is truly shot, why not buy a newer bigger MB engine out 
of a freightshaker.  I doubt anyone wears out the MB engines.  THe 
V-8 OM??? that DB put in a white in the 70s had a million or 1.5 
million miles on it and was still in perfect shape.  That engine may 
still be laying around.  I can ask the soninlaw if they still have 
it.  They scrapped the white but kept the engine.


If you think of the durability of an OM617 vs the durability of an OM 
603 or OM606, then a MB truck engine form the 80s or 90s should be 
quite a but more durable than the 70-something V8 truck Diesel.


With more power, you could gear it so it will run highways speeds 
without working hard.  It could make quite a rollback.


1113 had the lowest HP engine, somehow related to the 13.  the 1116 
and 1316 had more HP.  A 1316 may require a CDL.  A truck with a GVW 
rated 26,000 lb or less do not require a CDL.  26,001 up require a 
CDL.  Best to stay away from CDL.


I am guessing this one is under 26,000 GVW

Good luck






Should use 11R x 22.5 tires, which are common to all semi tractors and in
good supply,, even as retreads for the drive tires ... about $200 each...
Steer tires should always be virgin rubber, no recap.. so another $350 each
for two of those.

What engine does it use?

Would make a killer rollback car haul truck. I've seen several rollback
beds on Craigslist here for decent price.. Moving cars with a rollback is
almost painless, I've moved cars that didn't even have wheels with a
rollback.. it didn't even blink..

Buy it  you need it... really... I'll join the "attaboy chorus" when
you do..



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Re: [MBZ] Steering position

Top of the wheel was always what my dad did when he was too tired to keep
driving but too proud to let mom take over. 

I was taught what I think you're calling push-pull by one of the car test
jockeys for a non-car magazine, probably Tom McCahill of Mechanic's Illustrated.
I picked it up shortly before I started driver's education, my teachers, if they
noticed, never mentioned it. 
Back then I did it because it was supposed to be more secure than letting go of
the wheel with one hand and crossing your arms over each other. 
Bring both hands to the top of the wheel, grasping the wheel in one hand and
sliding the wheel through the other, then grasp with the other hand and bring
both hands towards the bottom.
 
I'm pretty sure they taught me 10 and 2 o'clock in driver's ed, but in cockpit
videos you usually see race drivers at 9 and 3. 
About 25 years ago I read a gripe in Autoweek from a reader who got hit backing
out of a parking spot. He claimed he was holding the top of the wheel in his
left hand while turning his body to look out the back windscreen when the bad
deployed, breaking his arm in multiple places. 
Air bags are weaker now, back then they were required to restrain unbelted
driver/dummies in crash tests. 
Mitch.

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[MBZ] Steering position

2015-06-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes


Saw this exchange on another list. Comment?
Gerry

> > I notice you drive top-hand a lot of the time.  Do you find that at all
> > unstable, as opposed to the 9-and-3 grip most recommended these days?
> 
> The 9-and-3 position is recommended to reduce the chance of possibly 
> gruesome injuries to the hands and arms if the airbag deploys. For the 
> same reason turning the wheel hand over hand is now out and push-pull is 
> preferred, so that the hands do not cross over.


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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

Should use 11R x 22.5 tires, which are common to all semi tractors and in
good supply,, even as retreads for the drive tires ... about $200 each...
Steer tires should always be virgin rubber, no recap.. so another $350 each
for two of those.

What engine does it use?

Would make a killer rollback car haul truck. I've seen several rollback
beds on Craigslist here for decent price.. Moving cars with a rollback is
almost painless, I've moved cars that didn't even have wheels with a
rollback.. it didn't even blink..

Buy it  you need it... really... I'll join the "attaboy chorus" when
you do..

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Kaleb certainly has enough stuff to trade him - - - -
>
> On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > The posting says,
> >
> >  The motor is bad, call for details $600 or trade. Call anytime.
> >
> > Have you called?
> >
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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>
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>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

Kaleb certainly has enough stuff to trade him - - - -

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The posting says,
>
>  The motor is bad, call for details $600 or trade. Call anytime.
>
> Have you called?
>
>
> Craig
>
>

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:13:42 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> 
> 
> Mercedes truck bad motor
> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html

The posting says,

 The motor is bad, call for details $600 or trade. Call anytime.

Have you called?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Green W140

I believe that's the same color as my 1997. 
But mine has its hood star and all it's jack hole covers. 
I guess I'm jaded, but when somebody says it's one of the nicest around and
there's a hole where the star belongs...
OTOH, for $3k what do you expect?
Mitch.

> On June 27, 2015 at 8:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I would look at this is I was still in the market:
> 
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5095650110.html
> 
> 
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[MBZ] DAS 'O' Matic

Got my DAS system connected to the S430 for the first time today.  First thing 
I did was to run a full scan and look for fault codes.

All the major components (engine, transmission) passed with flying colors and 
had no faults.  There were a bunch of other systems that had faults, but many 
of them were historical and not errors, for things like a lamp going out and 
being replaced, and the fault not being cleared.

Because I made all sorts of changes to the D2B (fiber optic) system, I had to 
reprogram the adaptations for several systems, including the COMAND as well as 
the main CANBUS controller and instrument panel display.  Fortunately, the 
service bulletin for retrofitting the phone had all the menu entries so I knew 
where to go and what adaptations to change.

This probably took me a good 30 minutes to do, but now that it’s done the 
instrument panel display shows all the phone information and the voice control 
integrates completely, including the phone voice commands.

While it’s a little spooky having a car with this level of electronic 
sophistication, having the MB diagnostic software makes it pretty easy to see 
what’s going on and understand what or if there’s a problem.

Changed the spark plugs today, too.  The back two plugs (four and eight) are a 
PITA to get to, but doable.  I found one of the plug wires on #5 just hanging, 
so one plug in #5 doesn’t appear to have been firing for some time.  Thank 
goodness for double plugs!

There’s a spark plug boot removal tool that’s about $15 that I snagged off eBay 
last week.  Boy, what a difference that made.  Popped those little buggers 
right off.

Can’t say I can tell a difference in how it runs, but I haven’t driven it much 
since I did it, so the next few days will tell.

Tomorrow if I drive it much I’m draining and refilling the differential with 
Mobil1 gear oil.

Dan



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[MBZ] Interesting Green W140

I would look at this is I was still in the market:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5095650110.html 


Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

Part of the work I do involves looking at traffic to see how secure it is.  
There is readily available, open source packet capture software (Wireshark is 
the most popular) that can be used to open up pretty much any protocol in a 
data stream that isn’t encrypted.  VOIP is easy to encrypt, and most is.

However, if it’s not and I can grab the packets coming across your wireless 
router, for example, it’s a matter of applying a filter and playing back the 
VOIP data stream, and I can hear your conversation as if I was a part of it.

Dan

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dan wrote:
>> ...If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen to your conversation.
> 
> Well...
> That peaks out interest.
> What might we hear?  Some things most don't know?
> I suggest most of us talk stuff nobody is curious to hear, not even
> stuff appropriate for a girlfriend... if that applies... it doesn't
> apply for me, so...
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

If it has a three pointed star, of course you should buy it! Have you
looked at it yet???

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Offer 450. REAR Tires could be spendy. But if you got a tilt & rollback bed
> it would be the ultimate  Benz  hauler.
> On Jun 27, 2015 7:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> > Shakes when starts, ICE COLD AC, SEND TITLE.
> >
> > Dan
>

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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

I'm ready for the Passat when it's sunroof starts to leak - the new MIG rig
arrived yesterday!

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 10:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:

> 'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the "privilege."
>
> Wilton
>

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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Offer 450. REAR Tires could be spendy. But if you got a tilt & rollback bed
it would be the ultimate  Benz  hauler.
On Jun 27, 2015 7:27 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Shakes when starts, ICE COLD AC, SEND TITLE.
>
> Dan
>
> > On Jun 27, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Mercedes truck bad motor
> > http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html
> >
> > via cPro Craigslist App
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Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-27 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Dan wrote:
> ...If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen to your conversation.

Well...
That peaks out interest.
What might we hear?  Some things most don't know?
I suggest most of us talk stuff nobody is curious to hear, not even
stuff appropriate for a girlfriend... if that applies... it doesn't
apply for me, so...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

Shakes when starts, ICE COLD AC, SEND TITLE.

Dan

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Mercedes truck bad motor
> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?



> On June 27, 2015 at 7:13 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mercedes truck bad motor
> http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html

Is the scrap value over $500 these days?
If the motor is in worse shape than the back tires, it's really bad.
But the cab looks more of less OK. 

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Yes.
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

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>
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[MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes



Mercedes truck bad motor
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html

via cPro Craigslist App
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Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

Max,

I don’t do VOIP, other than at work.  It’s inherently unsecure depending on how 
the traffic is being handled.  If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen 
to your conversation.

Sorry.

Dan




> On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
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> 
> Dan- what about Zoom?
> On Jun 26, 2015 3:47 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
> 
>> Dan, can you recommend an alternative?
>> --
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>> Charleston SC
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>> '95 E300
>> 
>> On June 26, 2015 3:37:16 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> And if you're worried about nosy people, Skype is the last place you
>>> want to be. They were willingly handing over data to nosy folks long
>>> before people were aware of it, I believe.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
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That’s why I chuckle when people talk about the “heat and humidity” here in 
Florida.

Where I grew up in the Midwest it was not uncommon to have it be 90F and 
80%-100% humidity. Goshawful weather to work outside in, and far worse than it 
is here.  The only difference is that we just have the heat for a longer time 
than they do.

Dan

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> THat's nice weather for the south in  summer. humidity here is generally in 
> the 80 to 99% range in summer.  with temps in the high 80s and 90s and some 
> time over 100.  60% is exceedingly low for summer.  That is why I laughed at 
> the Varithane tech rep a few years ago.  He told me not to put it on under 
> 70º  OR over 20% RH.  I told him they obviously would not sell varithane in 
> most of the continent then.
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] June Jamboree tomorrow in NJ

2015-06-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

You probably wouldn't have wanted to drive though the rain squalls...

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Double drat!!
>
> I’m in Queens doing airline work and forgot all about it.  So close, and
> yet so far.  I’m even driving the 250S. :-(
>
> Jon
>
>
> > On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> > Despite the call for rain, I'll be headed over the MBCA June Jamboree in
> > Madison, NJ tomorrow.  Its a new location that happens to be a few miles
> > from where I live.
> >
> > I'll be driving my grey 1979 300SD... the 67 300SEL is too dirty to
> display
> > right now, and the 59 219 would surely be a big hit, but its a few months
> > away from being legally drivable.
> >
> > Anyone else going?
> >
> > Jaime
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

> On June 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Well, since most of us never bought the MB new, we don't have choices 
> about sunroofs.  Personally, I like the sunroof, especially the tilt 
> up ones in 124 and 126.  If I had a choice between identical cars, 
> one with and one without sunroof, I'd still pick the sunroof.  The 
> problem now is that money is so tight that I don't dare open one for 
> fear of something breaking.

The one in my S210 worked fine when I bought it. 
After I used it 15-20 times it failed, one side tried to close from pop-up while
the other side jammed. 
Took me an hour or two to disassemble it far enough to close it so it didn't
whistle. 

I don't use pop-up sunroofs much after that, and I'll never pop one up again. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

Well, since most of us never bought the MB new, we don't have choices 
about sunroofs.  Personally, I like the sunroof, especially the tilt 
up ones in 124 and 126.  If I had a choice between identical cars, 
one with and one without sunroof, I'd still pick the sunroof.  The 
problem now is that money is so tight that I don't dare open one for 
fear of something breaking.




'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the "privilege."

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

THat's nice weather for the south in  summer. 
humidity here is generally in the 80 to 99% range 
in summer.  with temps in the high 80s and 90s 
and some time over 100.  60% is exceedingly low 
for summer.  That is why I laughed at the 
Varithane tech rep a few years ago.  He told me 
not to put it on under 70º  OR over 20% RH.  I 
told him they obviously would not sell varithane 
in most of the continent then.



The documentation for my S430, including Owner's 
manual, COMAND manual, and Voice Control totals 
over 1,000 pages of text and diagrams.  The 
COMAND manual is over 400 pages alone.


Thank goodness I like documentation.  Made for some good reading.

How the typical consumer operated this stuff 
I'll never understand.  I have to believe that 
about 85% of the features are never used.


Taking a break from swapping spark plugs.  Ugh. 
75% humidity and high 80s.  It's already rained 
twice this morning.  How I wish for an air 
conditioned garage.


Dan


 On Jun 27, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via 
Mercedes  wrote:


 Sounds like the same functionality as in 
wifey's ML though it looks like it would take a 
semester class to learn how to use it.  I think 
she tried and gave up.


 --R





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Re: [MBZ] AE Sale

2015-06-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

HI! I'm Joe Beats.

Say, what chance does a deceased returning war veteran have for that good
payin' job, more sugar, and that free Mule we've all been dreaming of?

Now take off your shoes.

Now you can see how increased spending opportunities, mean harder work for
everyone, and more of it, too! So, do yourself a favor, Joe. Join with
millions of your friends and neighbors, and, TAKE OFF YOUR SHOES!

"For INDUSTRY!"

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's Shoes for Industry compadre!
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
> On 6/27/15 5:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I am. I’m a legacy and a former “townie”.  The guy who used to be A-E’s
>> president was a neighbor of mine.  We all lived “on the bluff”, which is a
>> phrase used by the locals to this day that meant we were “rich and
>> powerful” because of the “exclusive” area our homes were located in.  At
>> least that what a lot of the locals thought.
>>
>> Remember, this is southeast Wisconsin, home to millions of Dutch and
>> German descendants.  The Dutch were the worst, the most tightfisted people
>> I have ever known.  By driving a Mercedes, even if it was a 1979 300TD I
>> paid a whopping $3,000 for, I was looked upon by a guy who drove a $45,000
>> 4WD 9 passenger Suburban as a junior Warren Buffett.
>>
>> Blinded by the tristar….
>>
>> And yes, it looks like it’s linked to the Shoebank and the stuff they
>> have there.
>>
>> The one thing I don’t like about A-E is the inconsistency between lasts,
>> meaning that one model of shoe might be a 12 EEE for me and another a 13 E,
>> ye they both fit.  It makes it especially frustrating when buying online of
>> you don’t already have a shoe made on the same last, as it’s a crapshoot
>> whether or not it will fit properly.
>>
>> While I’m all for a good deal, I hate the waiting t find out whether or
>> not the shoe will fit.  That’s why I like going to the store over in
>> Whorelando.  I get fitted properly and usually get some swag (shoe tree,
>> polish, etc.) out of the visit as well.
>>
>> Dan up too early for a Saturday.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally got the email this afternoon, timestamped 1:34pm EDT.
>>> Dan must be much higher up on the list than I am.
>>> There's a link in the email, and on Allen Edmonds' home page, to the
>>> Flash Sale.
>>> It appears to be identical to the tent sale pricing at shoebank.com,
>>> except you
>>> can order online for the sizes that are in stock at the Port Washington
>>> warehouse. That also lets you get online referral bonuses, like 5%
>>> cashback from
>>> fatwallet.com.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati2_Outlet_1_401_-1_149907__153407___?clickpath=homestatic1factoryseconds
>>>
 Did I miss it?
 Shoebank.com prices are the same as they were since last Tuesday,
 Daltons for
 $209, Jeffersons $197, Brooks Brothers $179...
 Or do I have to call the outlet?

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Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread WILTON via Mercedes


'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the "privilege."

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "OK Don via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "OK Don" 
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool



EXACTLY - it's jut asking for trouble (which is guaranteed to come).

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes 


wrote:



Like Wilton said, what's the point in taking a perfectly good roof and
cutting a hole in it?


Craig





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Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

> On June 27, 2015 at 9:44 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Sounds like the same functionality as in wifey's ML though it looks like 
> it would take a semester class to learn how to use it.  I think she 
> tried and gave up.

When a 72 year old friend of mine was buying a new car and wanted to bluetooth
it to a phone, I got him a BT compatible phone and he made the Nissan dealer set
it all up as part of the purchase deal. 
He loves it. He tells the car's communications center to call somebody, and it
mutes the radio and puts the call on the radio speakers. I believe it also
displays the number called on the navigation screen. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

The documentation for my S430, including Owner’s manual, COMAND manual, and 
Voice Control totals over 1,000 pages of text and diagrams.  The COMAND manual 
is over 400 pages alone.

Thank goodness I like documentation.  Made for some good reading.

How the typical consumer operated this stuff I’ll never understand.  I have to 
believe that about 85% of the features are never used.

Taking a break from swapping spark plugs.  Ugh. 75% humidity and high 80s.  
It’s already rained twice this morning.  How I wish for an air conditioned 
garage….

Dan

> On Jun 27, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sounds like the same functionality as in wifey's ML though it looks like it 
> would take a semester class to learn how to use it.  I think she tried and 
> gave up.
> 
> --R
> 
> 

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Re: [MBZ] AE Sale

2015-06-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

That's Shoes for Industry compadre!

--R

On 6/27/15 5:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I am. I’m a legacy and a former “townie”. The guy who used to be A-E’s
president was a neighbor of mine. We all lived “on the bluff”, which is a
phrase used by the locals to this day that meant we were “rich and powerful”
because of the “exclusive” area our homes were located in. At least that what
a lot of the locals thought.

Remember, this is southeast Wisconsin, home to millions of Dutch and German
descendants. The Dutch were the worst, the most tightfisted people I have ever
known. By driving a Mercedes, even if it was a 1979 300TD I paid a whopping
$3,000 for, I was looked upon by a guy who drove a $45,000 4WD 9 passenger
Suburban as a junior Warren Buffett.

Blinded by the tristar….

And yes, it looks like it’s linked to the Shoebank and the stuff they have
there.

The one thing I don’t like about A-E is the inconsistency between lasts,
meaning that one model of shoe might be a 12 EEE for me and another a 13 E, ye
they both fit. It makes it especially frustrating when buying online of you
don’t already have a shoe made on the same last, as it’s a crapshoot whether or
not it will fit properly.

While I’m all for a good deal, I hate the waiting t find out whether or not the
shoe will fit. That’s why I like going to the store over in Whorelando. I get
fitted properly and usually get some swag (shoe tree, polish, etc.) out of the
visit as well.

Dan up too early for a Saturday.

On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
wrote:

I finally got the email this afternoon, timestamped 1:34pm EDT.
Dan must be much higher up on the list than I am.
There's a link in the email, and on Allen Edmonds' home page, to the Flash Sale.
It appears to be identical to the tent sale pricing at shoebank.com, except you
can order online for the sizes that are in stock at the Port Washington
warehouse. That also lets you get online referral bonuses, like 5% cashback from
fatwallet.com.

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati2_Outlet_1_401_-1_149907__153407___?clickpath=homestatic1factoryseconds

Did I miss it?
Shoebank.com prices are the same as they were since last Tuesday, Daltons for
$209, Jeffersons $197, Brooks Brothers $179...
Or do I have to call the outlet?

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Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

2015-06-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

Sounds like the same functionality as in wifey's ML though it looks like 
it would take a semester class to learn how to use it.  I think she 
tried and gave up.


--R



On 6/26/15 10:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Got the parts in today and got everything installed and working.  Voice 
control, bluetooth integration with my iPhone, etc.  Took me all of maybe 30 
minutes to do.  The rest of the time was spent playing with the voice control 
and phone.

Sweet.

Tomorrow morning while the engine is stone cold I’ll be replacing the spark 
plugs.  Snagged a $20 HF 3/8” air ratchet to spin them out with, using a 25% 
off coupon to make the final price a little over $16.  Can’t argue with that.

Time to hit the shower and then study the telematics manual to learn more about 
the phone stuff.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] June Jamboree tomorrow in NJ

2015-06-27 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes

Double drat!!

I’m in Queens doing airline work and forgot all about it.  So close, and yet so 
far.  I’m even driving the 250S. :-(

Jon


> On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> Despite the call for rain, I'll be headed over the MBCA June Jamboree in
> Madison, NJ tomorrow.  Its a new location that happens to be a few miles
> from where I live.
> 
> I'll be driving my grey 1979 300SD... the 67 300SEL is too dirty to display
> right now, and the 59 219 would surely be a big hit, but its a few months
> away from being legally drivable.
> 
> Anyone else going?
> 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] AE Sale