Re: [MBZ] AE Sale

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I am. I’m a legacy and a former “townie”.  The guy who used to be A-E’s 
president was a neighbor of mine.  We all lived “on the bluff”, which is a 
phrase used by the locals to this day that meant we were “rich and powerful” 
because of the “exclusive” area our homes were located in.  At least that what 
a lot of the locals thought.

Remember, this is southeast Wisconsin, home to millions of Dutch and German 
descendants.  The Dutch were the worst, the most tightfisted people I have ever 
known.  By driving a Mercedes, even if it was a 1979 300TD I paid a whopping 
$3,000 for, I was looked upon by a guy who drove a $45,000 4WD 9 passenger 
Suburban as a junior Warren Buffett.

Blinded by the tristar….

And yes, it looks like it’s linked to the Shoebank and the stuff they have 
there.

The one thing I don’t like about A-E is the inconsistency between lasts, 
meaning that one model of shoe might be a 12 EEE for me and another a 13 E, ye 
they both fit.  It makes it especially frustrating when buying online of you 
don’t already have a shoe made on the same last, as it’s a crapshoot whether or 
not it will fit properly.

While I’m all for a good deal, I hate the waiting t find out whether or not the 
shoe will fit.  That’s why I like going to the store over in Whorelando.  I get 
fitted properly and usually get some swag (shoe tree, polish, etc.) out of the 
visit as well.

Dan up too early for a Saturday.



 On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 I finally got the email this afternoon, timestamped 1:34pm EDT.
 Dan must be much higher up on the list than I am. 
 There's a link in the email, and on Allen Edmonds' home page, to the Flash 
 Sale.
 It appears to be identical to the tent sale pricing at shoebank.com, except 
 you
 can order online for the sizes that are in stock at the Port Washington
 warehouse. That also lets you get online referral bonuses, like 5% cashback 
 from
 fatwallet.com. 
 
 http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati2_Outlet_1_401_-1_149907__153407___?clickpath=homestatic1factoryseconds
 Did I miss it?
 Shoebank.com prices are the same as they were since last Tuesday, Daltons for
 $209, Jeffersons $197, Brooks Brothers $179...
 Or do I have to call the outlet?
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] June Jamboree tomorrow in NJ

2015-06-27 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes
Double drat!!

I’m in Queens doing airline work and forgot all about it.  So close, and yet so 
far.  I’m even driving the 250S. :-(

Jon


 On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 Despite the call for rain, I'll be headed over the MBCA June Jamboree in
 Madison, NJ tomorrow.  Its a new location that happens to be a few miles
 from where I live.
 
 I'll be driving my grey 1979 300SD... the 67 300SEL is too dirty to display
 right now, and the 59 219 would surely be a big hit, but its a few months
 away from being legally drivable.
 
 Anyone else going?
 
 Jaime
 
 
 -- 
 Jaime Kopchinski
 http://www.jaimekop.com/
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

2015-06-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
Sounds like the same functionality as in wifey's ML though it looks like 
it would take a semester class to learn how to use it.  I think she 
tried and gave up.


--R



On 6/26/15 10:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Got the parts in today and got everything installed and working.  Voice 
control, bluetooth integration with my iPhone, etc.  Took me all of maybe 30 
minutes to do.  The rest of the time was spent playing with the voice control 
and phone.

Sweet.

Tomorrow morning while the engine is stone cold I’ll be replacing the spark 
plugs.  Snagged a $20 HF 3/8” air ratchet to spin them out with, using a 25% 
off coupon to make the final price a little over $16.  Can’t argue with that.

Time to hit the shower and then study the telematics manual to learn more about 
the phone stuff.

Dan
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The documentation for my S430, including Owner’s manual, COMAND manual, and 
Voice Control totals over 1,000 pages of text and diagrams.  The COMAND manual 
is over 400 pages alone.

Thank goodness I like documentation.  Made for some good reading.

How the typical consumer operated this stuff I’ll never understand.  I have to 
believe that about 85% of the features are never used.

Taking a break from swapping spark plugs.  Ugh. 75% humidity and high 80s.  
It’s already rained twice this morning.  How I wish for an air conditioned 
garage….

Dan

 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 wrote:
 
 Sounds like the same functionality as in wifey's ML though it looks like it 
 would take a semester class to learn how to use it.  I think she tried and 
 gave up.
 
 --R
 
 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

2015-06-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On June 27, 2015 at 9:44 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Sounds like the same functionality as in wifey's ML though it looks like 
 it would take a semester class to learn how to use it.  I think she 
 tried and gave up.

When a 72 year old friend of mine was buying a new car and wanted to bluetooth
it to a phone, I got him a BT compatible phone and he made the Nissan dealer set
it all up as part of the purchase deal. 
He loves it. He tells the car's communications center to call somebody, and it
mutes the radio and puts the call on the radio speakers. I believe it also
displays the number called on the navigation screen. 

Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] AE Sale

2015-06-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes

That's Shoes for Industry compadre!

--R



On 6/27/15 5:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I am. I’m a legacy and a former “townie”.  The guy who used to be A-E’s 
president was a neighbor of mine.  We all lived “on the bluff”, which is a 
phrase used by the locals to this day that meant we were “rich and powerful” 
because of the “exclusive” area our homes were located in.  At least that what 
a lot of the locals thought.

Remember, this is southeast Wisconsin, home to millions of Dutch and German 
descendants.  The Dutch were the worst, the most tightfisted people I have ever 
known.  By driving a Mercedes, even if it was a 1979 300TD I paid a whopping 
$3,000 for, I was looked upon by a guy who drove a $45,000 4WD 9 passenger 
Suburban as a junior Warren Buffett.

Blinded by the tristar….

And yes, it looks like it’s linked to the Shoebank and the stuff they have 
there.

The one thing I don’t like about A-E is the inconsistency between lasts, 
meaning that one model of shoe might be a 12 EEE for me and another a 13 E, ye 
they both fit.  It makes it especially frustrating when buying online of you 
don’t already have a shoe made on the same last, as it’s a crapshoot whether or 
not it will fit properly.

While I’m all for a good deal, I hate the waiting t find out whether or not the 
shoe will fit.  That’s why I like going to the store over in Whorelando.  I get 
fitted properly and usually get some swag (shoe tree, polish, etc.) out of the 
visit as well.

Dan up too early for a Saturday.




On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:


I finally got the email this afternoon, timestamped 1:34pm EDT.
Dan must be much higher up on the list than I am.
There's a link in the email, and on Allen Edmonds' home page, to the Flash Sale.
It appears to be identical to the tent sale pricing at shoebank.com, except you
can order online for the sizes that are in stock at the Port Washington
warehouse. That also lets you get online referral bonuses, like 5% cashback from
fatwallet.com.

http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati2_Outlet_1_401_-1_149907__153407___?clickpath=homestatic1factoryseconds

Did I miss it?
Shoebank.com prices are the same as they were since last Tuesday, Daltons for
$209, Jeffersons $197, Brooks Brothers $179...
Or do I have to call the outlet?

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Well, since most of us never bought the MB new, we don't have choices 
about sunroofs.  Personally, I like the sunroof, especially the tilt 
up ones in 124 and 126.  If I had a choice between identical cars, 
one with and one without sunroof, I'd still pick the sunroof.  The 
problem now is that money is so tight that I don't dare open one for 
fear of something breaking.




'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the privilege.

Wilton


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

2015-06-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
THat's nice weather for the south in  summer. 
humidity here is generally in the 80 to 99% range 
in summer.  with temps in the high 80s and 90s 
and some time over 100.  60% is exceedingly low 
for summer.  That is why I laughed at the 
Varithane tech rep a few years ago.  He told me 
not to put it on under 70º  OR over 20% RH.  I 
told him they obviously would not sell varithane 
in most of the continent then.



The documentation for my S430, including Owner's 
manual, COMAND manual, and Voice Control totals 
over 1,000 pages of text and diagrams.  The 
COMAND manual is over 400 pages alone.


Thank goodness I like documentation.  Made for some good reading.

How the typical consumer operated this stuff 
I'll never understand.  I have to believe that 
about 85% of the features are never used.


Taking a break from swapping spark plugs.  Ugh. 
75% humidity and high 80s.  It's already rained 
twice this morning.  How I wish for an air 
conditioned garageŠ.


Dan


 On Jun 27, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas via 
Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 Sounds like the same functionality as in 
wifey's ML though it looks like it would take a 
semester class to learn how to use it.  I think 
she tried and gave up.


 --R





___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On June 27, 2015 at 1:19 PM Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 Well, since most of us never bought the MB new, we don't have choices 
 about sunroofs.  Personally, I like the sunroof, especially the tilt 
 up ones in 124 and 126.  If I had a choice between identical cars, 
 one with and one without sunroof, I'd still pick the sunroof.  The 
 problem now is that money is so tight that I don't dare open one for 
 fear of something breaking.

The one in my S210 worked fine when I bought it. 
After I used it 15-20 times it failed, one side tried to close from pop-up while
the other side jammed. 
Took me an hour or two to disassemble it far enough to close it so it didn't
whistle. 

I don't use pop-up sunroofs much after that, and I'll never pop one up again. 

Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the privilege.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: OK Don okd...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool



EXACTLY - it's jut asking for trouble (which is guaranteed to come).

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com

wrote:



Like Wilton said, what's the point in taking a perfectly good roof and
cutting a hole in it?


Craig





--
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few 
who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com





___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] AE Sale

2015-06-27 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
HI! I'm Joe Beats.

Say, what chance does a deceased returning war veteran have for that good
payin' job, more sugar, and that free Mule we've all been dreaming of?

Now take off your shoes.

Now you can see how increased spending opportunities, mean harder work for
everyone, and more of it, too! So, do yourself a favor, Joe. Join with
millions of your friends and neighbors, and, TAKE OFF YOUR SHOES!

For INDUSTRY!

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 That's Shoes for Industry compadre!

 --R




 On 6/27/15 5:29 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

 I am. I’m a legacy and a former “townie”.  The guy who used to be A-E’s
 president was a neighbor of mine.  We all lived “on the bluff”, which is a
 phrase used by the locals to this day that meant we were “rich and
 powerful” because of the “exclusive” area our homes were located in.  At
 least that what a lot of the locals thought.

 Remember, this is southeast Wisconsin, home to millions of Dutch and
 German descendants.  The Dutch were the worst, the most tightfisted people
 I have ever known.  By driving a Mercedes, even if it was a 1979 300TD I
 paid a whopping $3,000 for, I was looked upon by a guy who drove a $45,000
 4WD 9 passenger Suburban as a junior Warren Buffett.

 Blinded by the tristar….

 And yes, it looks like it’s linked to the Shoebank and the stuff they
 have there.

 The one thing I don’t like about A-E is the inconsistency between lasts,
 meaning that one model of shoe might be a 12 EEE for me and another a 13 E,
 ye they both fit.  It makes it especially frustrating when buying online of
 you don’t already have a shoe made on the same last, as it’s a crapshoot
 whether or not it will fit properly.

 While I’m all for a good deal, I hate the waiting t find out whether or
 not the shoe will fit.  That’s why I like going to the store over in
 Whorelando.  I get fitted properly and usually get some swag (shoe tree,
 polish, etc.) out of the visit as well.

 Dan up too early for a Saturday.



  On Jun 26, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I finally got the email this afternoon, timestamped 1:34pm EDT.
 Dan must be much higher up on the list than I am.
 There's a link in the email, and on Allen Edmonds' home page, to the
 Flash Sale.
 It appears to be identical to the tent sale pricing at shoebank.com,
 except you
 can order online for the sizes that are in stock at the Port Washington
 warehouse. That also lets you get online referral bonuses, like 5%
 cashback from
 fatwallet.com.


 http://www.allenedmonds.com/aeonline/cati2_Outlet_1_401_-1_149907__153407___?clickpath=homestatic1factoryseconds

 Did I miss it?
 Shoebank.com prices are the same as they were since last Tuesday,
 Daltons for
 $209, Jeffersons $197, Brooks Brothers $179...
 Or do I have to call the outlet?

 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] June Jamboree tomorrow in NJ

2015-06-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You probably wouldn't have wanted to drive though the rain squalls...

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Jon Agne via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Double drat!!

 I’m in Queens doing airline work and forgot all about it.  So close, and
 yet so far.  I’m even driving the 250S. :-(

 Jon


  On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:26 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Hi All,
  Despite the call for rain, I'll be headed over the MBCA June Jamboree in
  Madison, NJ tomorrow.  Its a new location that happens to be a few miles
  from where I live.
 
  I'll be driving my grey 1979 300SD... the 67 300SEL is too dirty to
 display
  right now, and the 59 219 would surely be a big hit, but its a few months
  away from being legally drivable.
 
  Anyone else going?
 
  Jaime
 
 
  --
  Jaime Kopchinski
  http://www.jaimekop.com/
  ___
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 


 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Factory Phone Retrofit

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s why I chuckle when people talk about the “heat and humidity” here in 
Florida.

Where I grew up in the Midwest it was not uncommon to have it be 90F and 
80%-100% humidity. Goshawful weather to work outside in, and far worse than it 
is here.  The only difference is that we just have the heat for a longer time 
than they do.

Dan
 
 On Jun 27, 2015, at 1:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 THat's nice weather for the south in  summer. humidity here is generally in 
 the 80 to 99% range in summer.  with temps in the high 80s and 90s and some 
 time over 100.  60% is exceedingly low for summer.  That is why I laughed at 
 the Varithane tech rep a few years ago.  He told me not to put it on under 
 70º  OR over 20% RH.  I told him they obviously would not sell varithane in 
 most of the continent then.
 
 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Max,

I don’t do VOIP, other than at work.  It’s inherently unsecure depending on how 
the traffic is being handled.  If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen 
to your conversation.

Sorry.

Dan




 On Jun 26, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Dan- what about Zoom?
 On Jun 26, 2015 3:47 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 Dan, can you recommend an alternative?
 --
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 '87 300TD
 '95 E300
 
 On June 26, 2015 3:37:16 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 And if you're worried about nosy people, Skype is the last place you
 want to be. They were willingly handing over data to nosy folks long
 before people were aware of it, I believe.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Kaleb certainly has enough stuff to trade him - - - -

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 The posting says,

  The motor is bad, call for details $600 or trade. Call anytime.

 Have you called?


 Craig




-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



[MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes


Mercedes truck bad motor
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


Sent from my iPhone

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 27, 2015 7:13:42 PM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Mercedes truck bad motor
http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


Sent from my iPhone

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


 On June 27, 2015 at 7:13 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 Mercedes truck bad motor
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html

Is the scrap value over $500 these days?
If the motor is in worse shape than the back tires, it's really bad.
But the cab looks more of less OK. 

Mitch. 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Shakes when starts, ICE COLD AC, SEND TITLE.

Dan

 On Jun 27, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Mercedes truck bad motor
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html
 
 via cPro Craigslist App
 iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
 Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
If it has a three pointed star, of course you should buy it! Have you
looked at it yet???

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 7:22 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Offer 450. REAR Tires could be spendy. But if you got a tilt  rollback bed
 it would be the ultimate  Benz  hauler.
 On Jun 27, 2015 7:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

  Shakes when starts, ICE COLD AC, SEND TITLE.
 
  Dan


-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Should use 11R x 22.5 tires, which are common to all semi tractors and in
good supply,, even as retreads for the drive tires ... about $200 each...
Steer tires should always be virgin rubber, no recap.. so another $350 each
for two of those.

What engine does it use?

Would make a killer rollback car haul truck. I've seen several rollback
beds on Craigslist here for decent price.. Moving cars with a rollback is
almost painless, I've moved cars that didn't even have wheels with a
rollback.. it didn't even blink..

Buy it  you need it... really... I'll join the attaboy chorus when
you do..


On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Kaleb certainly has enough stuff to trade him - - - -

 On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 8:14 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
 wrote:

  The posting says,
 
   The motor is bad, call for details $600 or trade. Call anytime.
 
  Have you called?
 
 
  Craig
 
 


 --
 OK Don

 NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

 *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
 our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

 There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
 learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
 for themselves.

 WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



[MBZ] DAS 'O' Matic

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Got my DAS system connected to the S430 for the first time today.  First thing 
I did was to run a full scan and look for fault codes.

All the major components (engine, transmission) passed with flying colors and 
had no faults.  There were a bunch of other systems that had faults, but many 
of them were historical and not errors, for things like a lamp going out and 
being replaced, and the fault not being cleared.

Because I made all sorts of changes to the D2B (fiber optic) system, I had to 
reprogram the adaptations for several systems, including the COMAND as well as 
the main CANBUS controller and instrument panel display.  Fortunately, the 
service bulletin for retrofitting the phone had all the menu entries so I knew 
where to go and what adaptations to change.

This probably took me a good 30 minutes to do, but now that it’s done the 
instrument panel display shows all the phone information and the voice control 
integrates completely, including the phone voice commands.

While it’s a little spooky having a car with this level of electronic 
sophistication, having the MB diagnostic software makes it pretty easy to see 
what’s going on and understand what or if there’s a problem.

Changed the spark plugs today, too.  The back two plugs (four and eight) are a 
PITA to get to, but doable.  I found one of the plug wires on #5 just hanging, 
so one plug in #5 doesn’t appear to have been firing for some time.  Thank 
goodness for double plugs!

There’s a spark plug boot removal tool that’s about $15 that I snagged off eBay 
last week.  Boy, what a difference that made.  Popped those little buggers 
right off.

Can’t say I can tell a difference in how it runs, but I haven’t driven it much 
since I did it, so the next few days will tell.

Tomorrow if I drive it much I’m draining and refilling the differential with 
Mobil1 gear oil.

Dan



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] 123 swimming pool

2015-06-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm ready for the Passat when it's sunroof starts to leak - the new MIG rig
arrived yesterday!

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 10:04 AM, WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:

 'ZACKLY, and charge us a helluva lota money for the privilege.

 Wilton



-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Offer 450. REAR Tires could be spendy. But if you got a tilt  rollback bed
it would be the ultimate  Benz  hauler.
On Jun 27, 2015 7:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Shakes when starts, ICE COLD AC, SEND TITLE.

 Dan

  On Jun 27, 2015, at 7:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 
  Mercedes truck bad motor
  http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html
 
  via cPro Craigslist App
  iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
  Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android
 
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  ___
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 

 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



[MBZ] Interesting Green W140

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I would look at this is I was still in the market:

http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5095650110.html 
http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5095650110.html

Dan
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 18:13:42 -0500 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 
 
 Mercedes truck bad motor
 http://tulsa.craigslist.org/bar/5095816532.html

The posting says,

 The motor is bad, call for details $600 or trade. Call anytime.

Have you called?


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Interesting Green W140

2015-06-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I believe that's the same color as my 1997. 
But mine has its hood star and all it's jack hole covers. 
I guess I'm jaded, but when somebody says it's one of the nicest around and
there's a hole where the star belongs...
OTOH, for $3k what do you expect?
Mitch.

 On June 27, 2015 at 8:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 
 I would look at this is I was still in the market:
 
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5095650110.html
 http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/5095650110.html
 
 Dan
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-27 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan wrote:
 ...If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen to your conversation.

Well...
That peaks out interest.
What might we hear?  Some things most don't know?
I suggest most of us talk stuff nobody is curious to hear, not even
stuff appropriate for a girlfriend... if that applies... it doesn't
apply for me, so...
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] OT VOIP apps / usage

2015-06-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Part of the work I do involves looking at traffic to see how secure it is.  
There is readily available, open source packet capture software (Wireshark is 
the most popular) that can be used to open up pretty much any protocol in a 
data stream that isn’t encrypted.  VOIP is easy to encrypt, and most is.

However, if it’s not and I can grab the packets coming across your wireless 
router, for example, it’s a matter of applying a filter and playing back the 
VOIP data stream, and I can hear your conversation as if I was a part of it.

Dan



 On Jun 27, 2015, at 8:10 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Dan wrote:
 ...If I can capture your VOIP packets I can listen to your conversation.
 
 Well...
 That peaks out interest.
 What might we hear?  Some things most don't know?
 I suggest most of us talk stuff nobody is curious to hear, not even
 stuff appropriate for a girlfriend... if that applies... it doesn't
 apply for me, so...
 mao
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



[MBZ] Steering position

2015-06-27 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

Saw this exchange on another list. Comment?
Gerry

  I notice you drive top-hand a lot of the time.  Do you find that at all
  unstable, as opposed to the 9-and-3 grip most recommended these days?
 
 The 9-and-3 position is recommended to reduce the chance of possibly 
 gruesome injuries to the hands and arms if the airbag deploys. For the 
 same reason turning the wheel hand over hand is now out and push-pull is 
 preferred, so that the hands do not cross over.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Steering position

2015-06-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I think that when I learned to drive, the push-pull was called the shuffle,
and was frowned upon. It was too slow and in-efficient. That was when most
cars didn't have power steering, and it seemed that the average was 8 turns
of the steering wheel, lock to lock. I was learning to fly at the same time
I was learning to drive, and since I thought then (and still do) that
flying was much cooler than driving, I usually drive with thumb and a
finger lightly holding the wheel at 9 and gently applying pressure instead
of moving the wheel. This doesn't work so well when parking, but then it
doesn't work well when slipping the 182 either - you adapt to the situation.
I never heard about the airbag breaking arms, but it does sound plausible -
we'll break your arm to keep you safe!

On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Top of the wheel was always what my dad did when he was too tired to keep
 driving but too proud to let mom take over.

 I was taught what I think you're calling push-pull by one of the car test
 jockeys for a non-car magazine, probably Tom McCahill of Mechanic's
 Illustrated.
 I picked it up shortly before I started driver's education, my teachers,
 if they
 noticed, never mentioned it.
 Back then I did it because it was supposed to be more secure than letting
 go of
 the wheel with one hand and crossing your arms over each other.
 Bring both hands to the top of the wheel, grasping the wheel in one hand
 and
 sliding the wheel through the other, then grasp with the other hand and
 bring
 both hands towards the bottom.

 I'm pretty sure they taught me 10 and 2 o'clock in driver's ed, but in
 cockpit
 videos you usually see race drivers at 9 and 3.
 About 25 years ago I read a gripe in Autoweek from a reader who got hit
 backing
 out of a parking spot. He claimed he was holding the top of the wheel in
 his
 left hand while turning his body to look out the back windscreen when the
 bad
 deployed, breaking his arm in multiple places.
 Air bags are weaker now, back then they were required to restrain unbelted
 driver/dummies in crash tests.
 Mitch.

 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Steering position

2015-06-27 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Top of the wheel was always what my dad did when he was too tired to keep
driving but too proud to let mom take over. 

I was taught what I think you're calling push-pull by one of the car test
jockeys for a non-car magazine, probably Tom McCahill of Mechanic's Illustrated.
I picked it up shortly before I started driver's education, my teachers, if they
noticed, never mentioned it. 
Back then I did it because it was supposed to be more secure than letting go of
the wheel with one hand and crossing your arms over each other. 
Bring both hands to the top of the wheel, grasping the wheel in one hand and
sliding the wheel through the other, then grasp with the other hand and bring
both hands towards the bottom.
 
I'm pretty sure they taught me 10 and 2 o'clock in driver's ed, but in cockpit
videos you usually see race drivers at 9 and 3. 
About 25 years ago I read a gripe in Autoweek from a reader who got hit backing
out of a parking spot. He claimed he was holding the top of the wheel in his
left hand while turning his body to look out the back windscreen when the bad
deployed, breaking his arm in multiple places. 
Air bags are weaker now, back then they were required to restrain unbelted
driver/dummies in crash tests. 
Mitch.

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Kleb,

Buy it.

I can probably scrounge up 6 tires for you.  I have good tires on 
trailers.  I'd just have to find some carcasses to put on storage 
trailers, or scrap a trailer.


If the engine is truly shot, why not buy a newer bigger MB engine out 
of a freightshaker.  I doubt anyone wears out the MB engines.  THe 
V-8 OM??? that DB put in a white in the 70s had a million or 1.5 
million miles on it and was still in perfect shape.  That engine may 
still be laying around.  I can ask the soninlaw if they still have 
it.  They scrapped the white but kept the engine.


If you think of the durability of an OM617 vs the durability of an OM 
603 or OM606, then a MB truck engine form the 80s or 90s should be 
quite a but more durable than the 70-something V8 truck Diesel.


With more power, you could gear it so it will run highways speeds 
without working hard.  It could make quite a rollback.


1113 had the lowest HP engine, somehow related to the 13.  the 1116 
and 1316 had more HP.  A 1316 may require a CDL.  A truck with a GVW 
rated 26,000 lb or less do not require a CDL.  26,001 up require a 
CDL.  Best to stay away from CDL.


I am guessing this one is under 26,000 GVW

Good luck






Should use 11R x 22.5 tires, which are common to all semi tractors and in
good supply,, even as retreads for the drive tires ... about $200 each...
Steer tires should always be virgin rubber, no recap.. so another $350 each
for two of those.

What engine does it use?

Would make a killer rollback car haul truck. I've seen several rollback
beds on Craigslist here for decent price.. Moving cars with a rollback is
almost painless, I've moved cars that didn't even have wheels with a
rollback.. it didn't even blink..

Buy it  you need it... really... I'll join the attaboy chorus when
you do..



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



Re: [MBZ] Should I buy this?

2015-06-27 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 23:11:19 -0500 Curly McLain via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 1113 had the lowest HP engine, somehow related to the 13.  the 1116 
 and 1316 had more HP.  A 1316 may require a CDL.  A truck with a GVW 
 rated 26,000 lb or less do not require a CDL.  26,001 up require a 
 CDL.  Best to stay away from CDL.

Why?


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com