Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Gary Hurst
science diet is just old roy reskinned for the completely idiotic i prefer the plain old innova big dog formula. i don't buy the grain free more modern innova formulation as i think dogs do well with some cereals and fruits/vegetables. if i can't get innova as there are only two dealers around

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread E M
Any advise or thoughts for a really good cat food, both dry and wet ? Ed 300E 2009/11/1 Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com science diet is just old roy reskinned for the completely idiotic i prefer the plain old innova big dog formula. i don't buy the grain free more modern innova

Re: [MBZ] [Dog, etc.] Food

2009-11-01 Thread Jim Cathey
if you try to buy beef that is grass fed instead of fed chicken shit and corn, you are a nutter. My brother raises cattle. That's the beef we eat. Nothing put in them but grass. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] [Dog, etc.] Food

2009-11-01 Thread Gary Hurst
really? not corn and chicken shit? what are you, some kind of anti-american iconoclast? you been in contact with hugo chavez? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: if you try to buy beef that is grass fed instead of fed chicken shit and corn, you are a

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Tyler
Good advice! I was amazed when I adoted my German Pischer from the humane society back in may, and decided to buy him good quality dog food. When I went to the store I realized ALL of the brands were just corn meal- even the very expensive ones. Some say 1st ingredient is meat, but they

Re: [MBZ] FI Pump and OOMPF

2009-11-01 Thread LarryT
Did replacing the o-rings and washers affect *anything* ?I'm in the same boat - my DVs are leaking but my car runs so well I am hesitant to take it all apart to repair the DVs as their leak seems *very* small - I see only a small film of fuel on the top of the IP. Thx - LarryT 91 300D

Re: [MBZ] Parts ID

2009-11-01 Thread LarryT
I've got some Bosch parts manuals (from 1988). One is for things like points and distr caps. There's a cross ref in the back of each manual. I wouldn't say it's easy but it's possible to scan PN's and see how many different applications are covered by 1 PN. Of course, if it were to be a

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread LarryT
You wrote i can't imagine that the chinese ought to be all the different from the koreans. It;'s a total different mind set. Look how the Koreans have done with their cars like Hyundai - they were crap when 1st introduced and they listened to the complaints and addressed them all. Now,

Re: [MBZ] Parts ID

2009-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: I've got some Bosch parts manuals (from 1988). One is for things like points and distr caps. There's a cross ref in the back of each manual. I wouldn't say it's easy but it's possible to scan PN's and see how many different applications are covered by 1 PN. Of course, if it

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote: The Koreans dislike the Japanese intensely - part of it goes back to WW2 and the way Japan conquered the Koreans. They also feel the Japanese feel the world is their breadbasket meaning they believe the world is there to be used to keep Japan in a dominant position. That's

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day

2009-11-01 Thread WILTON
'Thought that was bassackwards. ;)) Wilton - Original Message - From: Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day Years back (1969-1970) in

[MBZ] W124 300TE - questions on congifuring the cargo area

2009-11-01 Thread andrew strasfogel
A friend with a W124 300TE questions posed these questions below. I was hoping list people could answer them: 1) How do you extend the cargo net (the cargo cover was a cinch) 2) How to remove the cargo cover/net unit in order to put the back seats down and increase the cargo area 3) How tp put

Re: [MBZ] FI Pump and OOMPF

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Frederick
The external fuel leak is the o-ring seal, doesn't affect anything but fuel milage, and then only if it's quite large. However, to replace the o-rings you must remove the valve holder, and hence must replace the seals as they won't usually seal when re- used. New springs won't hurt

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread L. Mark Finch
Costco's Kirkland brand Lamb Rice and Chicken Rice kibble are of high quality, and they don't cost an arm and a leg. My Weims and Dobes have thrived on it, along with the Kirkland wet food. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] FI Pump and OOMPF

2009-11-01 Thread harry watkins
Also, if your fuel tank is low and you park nose up on a slope, air will enter the system, BTDT. Harry The external fuel leak is the o-ring seal, doesn't affect anything but fuel milage, and then only if it's quite large. However, to replace the o-rings you must remove the valve holder,

[MBZ] gosh, no bids?

2009-11-01 Thread L. Mark Finch
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Classic- in-2020_W0QQitemZ290364385677QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks? hash=item439b10e98d#ht_500wt_1182 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Gary Hurst
dogs can't digest corn. i suspect that we can't either all too well. but the USA grows corn, corn, corn, corn, corn, so something needs to be done with it. combine that with chinese overproduction of melamine and it's just a disaster in the making. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 6:00 AM, Tyler

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:29 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote: Any advise or thoughts for a really good cat food, both dry and wet ? Hi Ed, I don't know what you can get up in Canada, but down here in the USA (I'm in Oregon) there are a few decent options. The problem is the same as Hursty

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Corn is fine once it's cooked with an alkali of some sort (eg hominy cooked in lye or calcium oxide, masa from central america, etc). Without that pre-digestion, many of the nutrients are unavailable and the starch is hard to digest since it won't soften up very well in short cooking

Re: [MBZ] gosh, no bids?

2009-11-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM, L. Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/yklabmf Weird, did they mean to put in $1,000 and got confused on the zeros? And what's with the vanity plate that says BRAIN? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] you know you are getting super old and tired

2009-11-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when you just start to really like woody allen movies.  i am watching whatever works and find it really good. Have you seen the classics---Annie Hall, Manhattan, Broadway Danny Rose, Hannah and her Sisters, Crimes and

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day

2009-11-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Greg Fiorentino gf...@dslnorthwest.net wrote: It (the Citroen) was just weird and backasswards. Somebody said (I'm paraphrasing) that a Citroen was what you would get if you told a bunch of Martian engineers that a car was a self-propelled means of transport

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Frederick
Well, they ARE very different. Not really all that much worse, or better, just different. After all, there is no metaphysical reason to number cylinders starting at the front, is there? From the rear works just as well. And why not use the shift lever as the starter switch? No way to

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
+1 on the Canidae! That's the stuff we feed our Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever, aka Toller. His name is Rogue, named for the river in Oregon. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Tyler Sent: Sunday, November

[MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread glenn brown
Remember folks, responsibility for many of the lousy products from China which are sold in this country can be laid at the feet of the high level managers of the U.S. companies who started outsourcing to places like Mexico first in order to increase their profit margins. I remember an episode

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
I don't buy food of any kind made in China, whether it's for human or canine consumption. That makes shopping a bit slower with all the stopping to read the fine print. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary

Re: [MBZ] OT Buick Reatta

2009-11-01 Thread Donald Snook
Alex wrote: Edmunds.com says the last year for the Reatta was 1991. Snook, are you talking about the Riviera made at the same time as the Reatta, or the next generation after that, sold 1995-1999? I've always thought the latter was a drop-dead gorgeous car---sometimes GM's styling department

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Mountain Man
jabba wrote: i know a little bit about car parts and a little bit about dog food, and in both areas that chinese are an absolute disgrace. i suspect it is not isolated to these two areas. I think you hint at the real problem. I am thinking it is not the chinese by themselves that produce

[MBZ] OT Re: Dog Food

2009-11-01 Thread ernest breakfield
after gradually getting my wife to understand what the ingredients in the dog food she wanted to buy really were and getting her to think about what dogs (or wolves, their closest ancestors) would really have been eating in the wild before kibble was created for the convenience of humans, the

Re: [MBZ] gosh, no bids?

2009-11-01 Thread WILTON
Guam? Wilton - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 12:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] gosh, no bids? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 9:49 AM, L. Mark Finch mfi...@katzenfinch.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Frederick
You are correct -- the comment on the lead in paint on toys was well, if you didn't insist on prices below production costs, no one would cut corners. However, the Chinese do have a very long standing culture of resistance to authority, to my mind due to the very long history of being

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
My dog gets Nutro, lamb and rice I think. It seems like good stuff, he likes it. Science diet is a mega scam as is anything with beet pulp which is a residue left over from making sugar. Its a filler and nothing more and many dogs are allergic to it. Natural Balance is good stuff, we get it

Re: [MBZ] [Dog, etc.] Food

2009-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
I wish we could find a good source for grass fed beef. Every one I've found wants me to buy a whole side at a time. I could do a quarter but not a whole animal. We've gotten some lamb but they'll still hold us to 10# at a time. My wife doesn't really eat lamb which makes it tough for us. I'd

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food

2009-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
The other trick is they'll list each ingredient by weight but have the meat be wet weight and the corn is dry weight. They should force all ingredients to be listed in dry weight or by volume which is really what counts. -Curt Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 02:00:19 -0800 From: Tyler

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food

2009-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
Unfortunately the dog food rating site is down right now. I did find a list of ingredients, the only questionable one I saw was beet pulp but there were many ingredients and many where I didn't know what they were. I want things I can identify. Another listing said it was $15 for 40#. How is

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food

2009-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
You can't digest corn very well either until you make it into hominy which converts it somehow... -Curt Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:52:49 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID:   

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Peter Frederick wrote: However, the Chinese do have a very long standing culture of resistance to authority, Interesting thought, that it might be as hard to get quality out of a Chinese factory worker today as it was to get it out of a British factory worker 35 years ago. Too much

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Oops, I forgot, Perpetual is in Hong Kong. Totally different place compared to China. Mitch. Mitch Haley wrote: You can get incredible quality out of small mom pop Chinese businesses today. All it takes is an owner who cares about his reputation and knows what each employee is doing. Case

Re: [MBZ] you know you are getting super old and tired

2009-11-01 Thread andrew strasfogel
The best of all IMHO were Sleeper and Everything you wanted to know about S*x... On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 10:27 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: when you just start to really like woody allen movies. i

[MBZ] Test

2009-11-01 Thread andrew strasfogel
I've sent out two messages to the list in the last couple days but not a solitary response, which is unprecedented. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Biodiesel 300TD in FL - some questions

2009-11-01 Thread ernest breakfield
judging by the extra unexplained plumbing visible in the engine compartment on the port-side fender, someone has tried to do a Veggie Oil conversion on this car, and not done it well. (there is no conversion necessary for BioDiesel.) while you might get away with this for a while,

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food

2009-11-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Grits are good for you. http://hominygrill.bigcartel.com/product/t-shirts --R Curt Raymond wrote: You can't digest corn very well either until you make it into hominy which converts it somehow... -Curt Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 12:52:49 -0400 From: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Test

2009-11-01 Thread Rich Thomas
You failed. --R andrew strasfogel wrote: I've sent out two messages to the list in the last couple days but not a solitary response, which is unprecedented. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] You don't see these every day

2009-11-01 Thread Bill R
I liked the hydraulic leveling and ground clearance/jack system, and being able to run [the station wagon at least] a fully loaded one without one of the rear wheels. BillR -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter

Re: [MBZ] Questions on configuring the cargo area

2009-11-01 Thread Dan Weeks
On Nov 1, 2009, at 11:05 AM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: 3) How tp put the back seats down to increase the cargo area This is the only one I know the answer to. Flip the seat bottoms up by lifting on the latch (it has finger grips molded into it) on the side of the seat bottom.

Re: [MBZ] Questions on configuring the cargo area

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Frederick
You will also need to remove the rear seat head supports to fold the rear seat down. The seat back is latched by the door, but they usually stick and some force (accompanied by several open/close cycles of the door) may be required to get them lose. There is a red molded hand grip on

Re: [MBZ] Test

2009-11-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
you failed andrew strasfogel wrote: I've sent out two messages to the list in the last couple days but not a solitary response, which is unprecedented. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Mountain Man
Mitch wrote: Oops, I forgot, Perpetual is in Hong Kong. Totally different place compared to China. Hong Kong is China - it went to China in 1999 - no? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure

2009-11-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
So a few weeks ago messing with my new 90 2.5, I discover it is not charging. I swap in a different regulator and it still does not charge. The regulator that was on there had really short brushes, the one I put on had long ones. Anyway, I go to pull the alternator only to discover the

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Mountain Man wrote: Hong Kong is China - it went to China in 1999 - no? Yeah, but HK is a different culture, so it's like saying Butte and Chicago are in the same country. I get the idea that HK is closer to Japan economically. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure

2009-11-01 Thread WILTON
Don't drain it - suck it out via the dipstick tube. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:59 PM Subject: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure So a few weeks ago messing

Re: [MBZ] Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Greg Fiorentino
Yes, but no. HK is under the PRC, but it is a Special Administrative Region HKSAR which even has its own different passport. Greg -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain Man Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 3:54

[MBZ] Rounded-off oil drain plug

2009-11-01 Thread Max Dillon
Kaleb, No problem, just suck the oil out the dipstick tube. With all the cars you have, I would think that such a time/labor saving device (oil sucker) would be one of your favorite tools. If you still want to get that off, a pipe wrench or a big vice grips (something with some real teeth

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Redghost
I am pretty sure nothing but mexicans can digest corn. And even they have some troubles clay On Nov 1, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Gary Hurst wrote: dogs can't digest corn. i suspect that we can't either all too well. but the USA grows corn, corn, corn, corn, corn, so something needs to be done

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure

2009-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
If you have no dash lights, how is the initial field current supposed to go through the alternator indicator lamp to the regulator to make the alternator work? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure

2009-11-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea, but I would still like to get that bolt out. WILTON wrote: Don't drain it - suck it out via the dipstick tube. Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: mercedes Mailing List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 6:59 PM Subject:

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure

2009-11-01 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
how would I know. With the regulator in there that works, all the lights lite up now. Mitch Haley wrote: If you have no dash lights, how is the initial field current supposed to go through the alternator indicator lamp to the regulator to make the alternator work? Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Getting seats down on 300TE

2009-11-01 Thread Dan Weeks
On Nov 1, 2009, at 5:59 PM, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: Headrests will have to be stored somewhere else, alas. On mine, there are holes to insert the headrest support rods into on top of the upward-facing edge of the seat bottoms when the bottoms are folded up against the front

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure

2009-11-01 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: how would I know. With the regulator in there that works, all the lights lite up now. OK, so it was the regulator, not the fuses. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 2.5 turbo alternator adventure

2009-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
Ain't you got no vice grips at Okie Acres? Then get you a sharp chisel and use that... Or weld a crossbar on and use that. Or cut a groove in it and use a screwdriver. Or do like Germany intended and don't use the stupid drain plug. I've NEVER used the drainplug on my 190D. Its probably

Re: [MBZ] OT - WCPE classical music

2009-11-01 Thread Wonko the Sane
Hours away from me, way out of FM range. I am in an all-metal building (right down to the 2x4s) and can't even get the local Jefferson FM radio station from my office. But Sioux City was correct -- and I heard the announcement too. FM range for me is Des Moines or Ames. On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Gary Hurst
exactly on the switching foods. i switch often with no problem you eat mcdonald's and you get sick. you eat something of quality and you don't. not difficult to grasp. same with the animals. they have to adapt themselves to tolerate the old roy/ science diet grade of food without getting

Re: [MBZ] [Dog, etc.] Food

2009-11-01 Thread Gary Hurst
the argentines are real sticklers on beef. if you have a community of them around you, go contact for grass fed beef. markets like whole foods also sell better quality stuff, but big $$$s. i also go tot he koreans for quality, but the language barrier is often too much of an obstacle as even

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Curt Raymond
Both the Merrick and the Dick Van Patten stuff give him gas, the Nutro doesn't and he loves it in a way he didn't with the SD junk. Of course when we visit my wife's aunt he loves the cheapo Wal-Mart crap she feeds her dogs. Doggie junk food. Interestingly the aunt's dogs won't touch my dog's

Re: [MBZ] OT - WCPE classical music

2009-11-01 Thread WILTON
'Was afraid of that. Wilton - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - WCPE classical music Hours away from me, way out of FM range. I am in an

Re: [MBZ] Dog Food was Re: Chinese Volvos

2009-11-01 Thread Kevin Kraly
One of the guide dog trainers feeds the Kirkland Lamb and Rice Kibble to her dogs with good results as well. It's cheaper than the Natural Balance too. Petco is closer to me, so that's where I went. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR, between MB Diesels ___

Re: [MBZ] [Dog, etc.] Food

2009-11-01 Thread Jim Cathey
I wish we could find a good source for grass fed beef. Every one I've found wants me to buy a whole side at a time. That's what we do. I could do a quarter but not a whole animal. A quarter is a tougher split. Asymmetrical, you see. Go in with friends, and play poker for the best steaks?