Re: [MBZ] Obligatory oil question

2023-09-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd been using LiquiMoly for my VWs as they have quite strict oil standards. With rising prices I've switched to Rowe for my Jetta and Pentosin for Angie's Golf. I'd use Rowe (a German brand) for both but they only have (at least through my distributor) a 5w30. Her car consumes 5w30 but not

Re: [MBZ] Obligatory oil question

2023-09-05 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Ahh, an oil thread. Makes me feel young again. AZBob Sent from my iPad > On Sep 5, 2023, at 3:51 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > On 2023-09-05 17:26, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> My thinking is that oil today is so much better than it was 30yr ago, or at >> least

Re: [MBZ] Obligatory oil question

2023-09-05 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2023-09-05 17:26, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: My thinking is that oil today is so much better than it was 30yr ago, or at least "better" whatever that means, so using any decent synthetic is going to work fine. What my industry contact says: If it's certified API SP, GF-6, or Dexos1

Re: [MBZ] Obligatory oil question

2023-09-05 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I would use 15w40, regular or synthetic. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 5, 2023, at 4:17 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I found out the seller of my new 124 has been using Liqui Moly 15-40 for > oil. He has only had it since 2021 and drove it less than 5000 miles. > > Is there

Re: [MBZ] Obligatory oil question

2023-09-05 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
In my opinion, it doesn’t matter. I’m no oil snob, I use the minimum (at least) of what the manufacturer recommends or better. I changed most of my cars based on miles for years, but with our driving over the past few years being minimal at best, I am going to an annual change interval on those

Re: [MBZ] Obligatory oil question

2023-09-05 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
People think that stuff is great, I'm not sure why.  I have been buying Costco synthetic and using that, it appears to be an analog to Mobil 1 and is a lot cheaper. My thinking is that oil today is so much better than it was 30yr ago, or at least "better" whatever that means, so using any

[MBZ] Obligatory oil question

2023-09-05 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I found out the seller of my new 124 has been using Liqui Moly 15-40 for oil. He has only had it since 2021 and drove it less than 5000 miles. Is there any reason to keep using it? I remember lots of discussion from Dr Booth about synthetic oil. And many other differing opinions. I don’t

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-09-20 Thread as.thompson--- via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-09-20 Thread as.thompson--- via Mercedes
I do remember Alice - in spite of my advancing elderly status…;-) Addison On Sep 20, 2017, Scott wrote: Number 3 stepchild (Addison may remember Alice) proved this isn't the case. > -Original Message- > From: Curley (According to urban legend and CR) They run for people

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-09-19 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Aww, c'mon! Toada en-gInes are Indestructable (According to urban legend and CR) They run for people who NEVER change the oil! Toada En-gInes are Majik! Curt Raymond via Mercedes August 9, 2017 at 8:10 AM I believe with some cars dino oil = no

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
s Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question I get the argument that a flush wouldn't clean the filter.  Similarly, a transmission service including the filter

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
- From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question > On August 8, 2017 at 9:48 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: &g

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
intervals are better. -Curt From: Donald Snook via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Donald Snook <d...@snooklawllc.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 9, 2017 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question Randy wrote

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
Randy wrote: "For what it is worth, I will throw my 2 cents in . . . I suspect that the primary advantage of synthetics is in either very hot or very cold weather. Here in the great white north, we get a lot of pretty cold weather. I believe we were led to believe that the oil would flow much

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Which has always been my contention. -Curt From: Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mitch Haley <mi...@mitchellhaley.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ugust 8, 2017 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question > On August 8, 2017 at 6:05 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So, based upon what you say, there may be little point in buying M1. > What dino oil is good oil? For your purposes, I think

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
ay, August 8, 2017 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question Dr Booth is wrong. Well at least now days. At one point he might have been correct. Not M1 is just hydrocracked Group III oil. It's not a true group IV synthetic. You have to get amsoil or the like to get a true synthetic now. S

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-09 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Randy Bennell <rbenn...@bennell.ca> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question On 08/08/2017 4:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: >> On August 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM Randy Bennell vi

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 8, 2017 at 9:48 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Don DON"T DO IT. > Read these two articles > http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/29 > http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/238 Quote of the day, it's like cleaning your

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt It's $4.97/quart; a gallon is $17.97, but my store didn't have any. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes
02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, no harm except your wallet. Personally I u

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I have the same year truck/engine but only have 9,000 miles on it. It mostly hauls the fuel barrel to the gas station to fill for the airplane, and no ethanol fuel is now available only three miles from home. I have been using M1 with an addition of ASL Camguard to help protect it while sitting.

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 8, 2017 at 6:05 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > So, based upon what you say, there may be little point in buying M1. > What dino oil is good oil? For your purposes, I think you have it figured out. Buy a liter of something, stick it in the deep

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
If you are using Dino oil which I do and you use factory internals, not doing extended drains, then it really doesn't matter. I used either Delvac 1300, or Walmart did have a castrol diesel oil for less than $10 per gallon I was using. Had all the same ratings etc. I did not see it last time.

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
In applications I use synthetic I have switched to the delo 15w40 at Walmart which is cheaper than M1 and most likely is the same. I believe the Delo might be MB approved. For the 112 and 113 powered cars I still use M1 0w40 with is MB approved for those applications. Sent from my iPhone >

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It not sure but I have seen him pop up from time to time. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > The name Dan Elliot seems familiar to me, Gordon. > I just think he doesn't post often. > Hey Kaleb, has Elliot been on

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It's 722.6 approved which means it will work for anything up to the 722.6 and older. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Correct. > > And it is listed as an approved fluid in the Bevo, too. > > -D > > >> On Aug 8,

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
For that matter Walmart supertec is probably fine if you want a regular non synthetic fluid. It's made by valvoline also I believe. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Right Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt > > Maxlife

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Dr Booth is wrong. Well at least now days. At one point he might have been correct. Not M1 is just hydrocracked Group III oil. It's not a true group IV synthetic. You have to get amsoil or the like to get a true synthetic now. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:34 PM, archer75--- via

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 08/08/2017 4:46 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On August 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:> I wonder what difference one might see if one were to put a gallon of the dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or two and

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 8, 2017 at 5:17 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote:> I wonder what difference one might see if one > were to put a gallon of > the dino oil and a gallon of the synthetic oil in a freezer for a day or > two and then pour them out. 30 years ago, it was

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 08/08/2017 3:35 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: There's a Youtube video out there that claims that after the law suit that resulted in partially synthetic oils could be marketed as "synthetic", all but one of the companies stopped making/selling true synthetic oil. I believe that Herr Booth

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
The name Dan Elliot seems familiar to me, Gordon. I just think he doesn't post often. Hey Kaleb, has Elliot been on the list as long as you've been running it? Mitch. > On August 8, 2017 at 4:40 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Dan E wrote: > > I have a

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Correct. And it is listed as an approved fluid in the Bevo, too. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> I will just stick with MB approved

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:35:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt Maxlife is made by Valvoline. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
The Blackstone info says that if you change your oil every 4000 miles it doesn't matter what oil you use. What MB says is that you must use oil that conforms to a certain MB specification if you want to run 10,000+ miles on a change. But yes, I believe that Mobil has chosen to cheapen M1

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Dan E wrote: > I have a good friend... Another Dan at OkieBenz? Glad to be tin.man becuz there is another Dan here. tin.man ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
ipstick and > BMW says it is a sealed system and should not be serviced because it is > built to last a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any > of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. > >> > >> Don Snook > >> > >>

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
There's a Youtube video out there that claims that after the law suit that resulted in partially synthetic oils could be marketed as "synthetic", all but one of the companies stopped making/selling true synthetic oil. I believe that Herr Booth was correct, at the time, that M1 was far superior and

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Dan Elliott via Mercedes
ast a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. >> >> Don Snook >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:0

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
So did my '83 300D. Dr. Booth did a lot of research on oils of several kinds and finally concluded that Mobil 1, both for engine and transmission was the best. After using Mobil 1 for both engine and transmission for 130K miles, the transmission is still working well, and the retired Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
You can get 5 quart jugs at FLAPS for about that much, too. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 8, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Meade

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I will just stick with MB approved Maxlife at Walmart for $4 a qt Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 8, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > So who's got the best deal on Febi 08971 these days? My '95 E300 is due > for an ATF fluid and filter change. >

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 14:11:54 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > FCP Euro usually has good deals on the Febi fluid. Since I need it now, I'll look for Mobil1 ATF. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
FCP Euro usually has good deals on the Febi fluid. There's very little fluid in the cooler. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 1:52 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > The thing about the machine change is you don't get a filter change. I'm not > sure where the filter is in the equation,

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
in the average car's transmission cooler... -Curt From: Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "d...@penoff.com" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 8, 2017 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil que

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: And I definitely don't prescribe to the "sealed for life" mentality. Sealed for life increases the chances of the transmission outlasting the warranty, so it's good for manufacturers, but it reduces the chances of the transmission lasting 300k mi to near zero.

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
So who's got the best deal on Febi 08971 these days? My '95 E300 is due for an ATF fluid and filter change. A couple months ago I caught a sale at FCP Euro, I think it was around $7 per quart or so. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
o last a lifetime. I have never had a transmission problem on any of the 5 BMWs I have had. So, maybe I shouldn't tempt fate. > > Don Snook > > -Original Message- > From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM > T

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
https://youtu.be/o690DovjDAc Here's your training video for the day... - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I don't buy the "sealed for life" part at all. I'll bet there is a kit you can get to install a dipstick / fill tube and change the fluid. Is there a filter too? If there is no drain on the torque converter, then maybe the flush would be a good idea, but I'd check around for a reputable BMW

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: Speaking of transmission fluid and servicing of them, anyone else done a transmission flush with the machines that shops have now? I remember seeing pictures of a vehicle (Nissan?) that had a tranny flush done, apparently either they used the coolant flush

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
- From: Max Dillon [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 1:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III is the answer. One can spend more (M

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I used M-1 tranny fluid in it, it seemed to smooth the shifts from how they were when I got the car. On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Well, transmission fluid, actually: > > What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo? > > >

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Agreed, Febi 08971 On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 5:17 AM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I use the Febi stuff, too. Much cheaper than M1 and meets all the MB specs > without exception. > > -D > > > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I use the Febi stuff, too. Much cheaper than M1 and meets all the MB specs without exception. -D > On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:02 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III > is the answer. One can

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-08 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Correct, I spent hours digging into the official MB oil sheets, and Dex III is the answer. One can spend more (Mobil 1, Febi, Fuchs, etc) if desired, no harm except your wallet. Personally I use the Febi fluid now, I used M1 for the first change though. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I'm sure it's fine too. There is noting special required Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > >> Whatever the current

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 22:00:50 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the red > bottle at Walmart Not Mobil1 ATF? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Whatever the current dextron is, or that maxlife synthetic in the red bottle at Walmart Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Well, transmission fluid, actually: > > What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5

[MBZ] An oil question

2017-08-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Well, transmission fluid, actually: What transmission fluid is suitable for a 1990 300D/2.5 Turbo? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-25 Thread LarryT via Mercedes
If you like M1 (it used to be the only oil I used), you'll like Amsoil even better IMO. At least I do. I am switching all I own over to Amsoil... LarryT The Oil Analysis Co. Youroil.net On 8/23/2014 1:20 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Is Mobil1 ATF suitable for the transmission in a 1995

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
. -Curt From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question If you like M1 (it used to be the only oil I used), you'll like Amsoil even better IMO.  At least I do

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-25 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
and it showed fine. $22/gal and it shows the VW spec required for my car. -Curt From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question If you like M1 (it used

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-25 Thread Archer75--- via Mercedes
1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An oil question If you like M1 (it used to be the only oil I used), you'll like Amsoil even better IMO. At least I do. I am switching all I own over to Amsoil... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-25 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'm a big fan of Febi 08971 for my Mercedes 4 speed auto transmissions. But most say I'm crazy. It was wonderful in my '95 E320. Its wonderful in everything, actually. Even my 67 300SEL. http://www.worldpac.com/tagged/FebiATF0897178971_0009899203.pdf Jaime On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 1:20 AM,

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-24 Thread clay via Mercedes
My newest star car is 2002, and I recall there being a big push in the early 00 to get folks to only put M1 in the engine and trans. Some whooey about sealed for life, but that it was good for the old cars too. I found that it really is good for the old cars, as, even the manual four speed

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-23 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I use it in my '95 E300. Over 20k miles there has been a gradual improvement in shifting behavior, now more often than not the transmission is finding the right gear. Not nearly as dramatic as the improvement in my '87 wagon, this transmission was shifting fairly well before I began using the

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-23 Thread clay via Mercedes
I used it with no issue in the e300d, or any other Benz from 1972-2002 clay On Aug 22, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Is Mobil1 ATF suitable for the transmission in a 1995 E320? Thanks, Craig -- Present:'95 E320 Sebastian 127 kmi

Re: [MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-23 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
clay via Mercedes wrote: I used it with no issue in the e300d, or any other Benz from 1972-2002 I thought the electronic five speeds from about 1997-up required the special juice? Two years ago, when I bought the 1999 wagon, you could still get a case of Shell 134 from Ryder Fleet for a lot

[MBZ] An oil question

2014-08-22 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Is Mobil1 ATF suitable for the transmission in a 1995 E320? Thanks, Craig -- Present:'95 E320Sebastian 127 kmi '82 240D/3.0Bluebell 267 kmi (need to fix leaking oil pressure gauge) '89

[MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Time for another oil change in the GL. Last time I used the M1 ESP Formula M. I found another 229.51 oil Total Quartz something or other for slightly less. Is one better than the other? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread OK Don
You have to ask? If the answer isn't 47, then it's M1. If Total Quartz is from Total, the French oil company, I would not even consider it vs. M1. Is it worth the slightly less when it's going into that glorious GL??? On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Just never heard of it but figured somebody might. On 1/11/2014 6:08 PM, OK Don wrote: You have to ask? If the answer isn't 47, then it's M1. If Total Quartz is from Total, the French oil company, I would not even consider it vs. M1. Is it worth the slightly less when it's going into that

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
If it meets the spec, then its ok. Better than Mobil One? Maybe not... i really couldnt tell you. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: Time for another oil change in the GL. Last time I used the M1 ESP Formula M. I found another 229.51 oil Total

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread Gary Hurst
why would anyone think you'd know such a thing? On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: If it meets the spec, then its ok. Better than Mobil One? Maybe not... i really couldnt tell you. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime cannot probably answer 100%

2014-01-11 Thread Hendrik and Fay
How much slightly less $$? Not worth changing oil brands for a few dollars, especially if that engine has been using M1 since day one, it has been known that an engine all of a sudden starts using oil just because it's fed another oil. Even though that cheaper oil meets specs, does not mean it

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread dseretakis
Cuz Jaime has special MB connections. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: why would anyone think you'd know such a thing? On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.comwrote: If it meets the spec, then its ok.

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread Gary Hurst
that make him an expert on motor oil around the world? there is something seriously crackheaded in this logic. no? On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 11:04 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Cuz Jaime has special MB connections. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 10:40 PM, Gary Hurst

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread Mitch Haley
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Just never heard of it but figured somebody might. Bob the Oil Guy? http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflatNumber=2819875 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread OK Don
Wow! And we thought we had oil threads! I don't know what most of them are talking about (and don't want to find out). On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Bob the Oil Guy? http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb= showflatNumber=2819875

Re: [MBZ] an oil question Jaime can probably answer

2014-01-11 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Will stick to what I was using but was curious. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 11, 2014, at 9:34 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: If it meets the spec, then its ok. Better than Mobil One? Maybe not... i really couldnt tell you. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-23 Thread Tim C
On Dec 22, 2012 9:51 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: only ran one analysis on M1 from a 617.962 engine, with similar results. Wait, what? I thought the consensus was that you couldn't get extended change intervals on the 61xs because of carbon? Thanks, Tim Not trolling

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Tim C wrote: On Dec 22, 2012 9:51 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: only ran one analysis on M1 from a 617.962 engine, with similar results. Wait, what? I thought the consensus was that you couldn't get extended change intervals on the 61xs because of carbon? Seems like Marshall quoted a

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Mitch Haley wrote: Seems like Marshall quoted a maximum soot level provided by MBZ or Mobil Oil, and then said he liked to change at a lower level. Maybe Larry Turner remembers the details? In other words, I think the advise was not to extend without testing to know how fast your particular

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-23 Thread OK Don
Exactly - each driver/engine is going to be different - you have to analyze the oil to see what will work for you. There are no blanket rules. On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Mitch Haley wrote: Seems like Marshall quoted a maximum soot level provided by

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-23 Thread Brian Toscano
2% was the generally accepted soot limit back in the CG-4 days. Semis and other trucks/engine combinations are engineered differently than cars. The new pick up truck diesels take about 2-1/2 gallons. The older ones were closer to 3 gallons. My Cummins B5.9's were designed to run 300,000 miles

[MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-22 Thread W140
Is Moble 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 an apprived oil for the 3.5 ltr Diesel in the W140 (1992) or does it require 15w40?Or are both approved? Walt Lasher Seattle 1992 W140 S350 Woman is 57 But Looks 27 Mom publishes simple

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
W140 wrote: Is Moble 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 an apprived oil for the 3.5 ltr Diesel in the W140 (1992) or does it require 15w40?Or are both approved? Walt Lasher Seattle 1992 W140 S350 Both should be approved. 5W40 TDT, AKA 5W40 Delvac 1, is probably the best stuff Mobil markets

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-22 Thread WILTON
That's what I've been using, anyway. Wilton - Original Message - From: W140 w...@juno.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 12:17 PM Subject: [MBZ] Diesel oil question Is Moble 1 Turbo Diesel Truck 5w-40 an apprived oil for the 3.5 ltr Diesel in the W140

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-22 Thread Hendrik and fay
Oils should have their MB approval number on the bottle or at least on the web. Personally I favour 15w40 oil changed at 10k kmhs. Modern mineral oils are a lot better than they used to be and M1 is a waste of money in an older engine not really designed for it. For instance I use this stuff

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-22 Thread Michael Canfield
Oil trolls are the worst kind. Mike On Dec 22, 2012 8:48 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: Oils should have their MB approval number on the bottle or at least on the web. Personally I favour 15w40 oil changed at 10k kmhs. Modern mineral oils are a lot better than they used to be

Re: [MBZ] Diesel oil question

2012-12-22 Thread OK Don
Taking the bait -- The late Doctor Booth claimed greatly extended timing chain life with M1, determined by measuring the reduced chain stretch. I would not recommend extending the change interval without oil analysis to quantify the condition of the oil. With analysis, I determined that at 12,000

[MBZ] 'Nother oil question

2011-01-09 Thread WILTON
OK, I WAS gonna ask a question about what oil to use to lube squealing hot water circulating pump on my home heating system, but I decided to just do it and then let y'all tell me what I shoulda done. ;))) 'Had readily available: an open jug of M1 10W-40 and a new, sealed quart of M1 ATF.

Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question

2011-01-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I think you used the oil because it was already opened On 1/9/2011 10:04 AM, WILTON wrote: OK, I WAS gonna ask a question about what oil to use to lube squealing hot water circulating pump on my home heating system, but I decided to just do it and then let y'all tell me what I shoulda done.

Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question

2011-01-09 Thread Jim Cathey
an open jug of M1 10W-40 and a new, sealed quart of M1 ATF. Which one do you think I used and why? The 10W40 was already open. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question

2011-01-09 Thread WILTON
'Zackly! ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question I think you used the oil because it was already opened On 1/9

Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question

2011-01-09 Thread WILTON
'Zackly! ;))) Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question an open jug of M1 10W-40 and a new, sealed quart of M1 ATF. Which

Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question

2011-01-09 Thread Bob Rentfro
, 2011 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 'Nother oil question I think you used the oil because it was already opened On 1/9/2011 10:04 AM, WILTON wrote: OK, I WAS gonna ask a question about what oil to use to lube squealing hot water circulating pump on my home heating system, but I decided to just

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