Re: [MBZ] 560 sel differential? 1988

2022-09-19 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Thanks. I put a used one in the 300td this year already. Not a good year for differentials apparently. I put a wavetrac LSD into the 606 wagon. That is the only one I have rebuilt. Did not touch the pinion so I just bolted it back together. I suspect the howl is from the pinion. There seem to be

Re: [MBZ] 560 sel differential? 1988

2022-09-18 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
In the one diff that I had to rebuild back when I was a paid wrench, the noise was coming from the pinion gear - it was visibly worn. We replaced the gears and bearings, after waiting months for the special order Volvo parts, and sent it on its way, happy and quiet. I'd vote for getting a used

Re: [MBZ] 560 sel differential? 1988

2022-09-17 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 10:23:04 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > Anyone have an old 2.42 diff from a 126? The USA sel cars had LSD, but > not critical. Mine is whining. I guess I could put new bearings in and > see if that fixes it, but I wonder if it is a bearing or gears that > fail.

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-16 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I agree on the 3k thing. I do think there is some regional variation and it is totally rust free. I could find a 3k version somewhere but if it costs 1k to get it here, it doesnt really put me ahead. Most of these cars are well over 200k and things like the sun visor mirror lids are all broken

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
3K sounds better.  A family member recently purchased a late 80's 420SEL, he loves it.  Beautiful dark red color.  Recently took it on a multi day road trip, got mileage on the mid 20s, one tank was upper 20s when they had a tail wind all day. Max Dillon Charleston SC Apr 15, 2021 8:56:09 PM

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Well I checked out the 5400 dollar 560 sel. It is honestly pretty straight but someone did a crappy repaint so the clear is flaking off in places, the accumulators are done, and it is leaking either power steering fluid or sls fluid down the front and on the steering knuckle. But it has good power

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Does the 560 really take premium? I rarely gave mine that. Only in hot weather does it really seem to make a difference. Typically I got maybe 17mpg, would crest 20 on optimal trips. Electronics is a weak point, particularly things like cruise control and HVAC. Vacuum pods don't last

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-15 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The 560SEC got fairly abysmal fuel mileage on premium, not that I cared much as it was just something fun to drive occsionally. I have not driven it in awhile, it has some issue with rough running I have not dug into yet.  Probably all the hoses and vac and such in there.  Apparently the

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-15 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
People seem to get 20 on the freeway on the forums but honestly I don't think I have ever calculated the mileage on any of my cars. I am glad I drove the wagon during residency when I did not have a lot of cash; it was and still is a lot of car for the money and ran cheap. These days I buy cars by

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-15 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
W126 has a 30 gal. tank. My brother got 28 mpg on the highway with his SDL, so had enormous range. At 14, about 400 miles or so, which isn't too bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-15 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Fair point, but I think you're talking more like about 12 for that car. https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs=5751 Allan Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes: > Funny, people do not consider 14-20 mpg poor mileage when talking > about a pickup or SUV that they drive like a car most

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-14 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Funny, people do not consider 14-20 mpg poor mileage when talking about a pickup or SUV that they drive like a car most of the time. It would fit right in here. I just hope it has a large tank so I don't have to fill up very often. Does the 560 really take premium? On Wed, Apr 14, 2021, 7:47 PM

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I'm assuming that the 560 version of the M117 has the same intake layout as the iron block 450 version. If so, it's likely that the myriad rubber hoses under the top intake housing are all rock hard and leaking badly, which yields an engine that will barely run, if it starts at all. Those bits

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2021-04-14 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
With the recent trend on the price of gas, feeding premium to that thirsty machine would probably be at least somewhere on the list of concerns. Allan Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes writes: > Is there anything not to like about these old V8 w126 sleds? They must have > their pet mechanical

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL advice

2021-01-10 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Donate it, since selling would probably net you $500 if that. On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 7:56 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I don't have any current pictures, yet. The car is in Spokane, WA. > > The wife has always hated the car, due to its circumstances of arrival.

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL advice

2021-01-10 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
I don't have any current pictures, yet. The car is in Spokane, WA. The wife has always hated the car, due to its circumstances of arrival. SWDNF (She Who Does Not Forgive/Forget) wants it gone, and I work from home, so a nap refuge vehicle is no longer of any use. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL advice

2021-01-10 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
pics, location? On 1/10/2021 2:55 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: The time has come to move my 1990 560SEL napmobile on. Rough cosmetic condition, was guardrailed. (Have matching front fender and front door, though.) I haven't been driving it, and the last time I went to move it the

Re: [MBZ] 560-SEL 338 CUBIC INC 5.6 V6... FUEL PROBLEM.. RUNS THEN SHUTS OFF.

2020-11-12 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On 2020-11-12 15:58, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Those 2 missing cylinders might have something to do with it https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/interlachen-mercedes-benz/7229801312.html Sounds like a bad fuel pump relay. ___

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2017-10-30 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> > Good work. How are you wiring the LEDs? To monitor if power is being > passed by the devices properly? Internal to the PBU, I have nestled a red and a blue LED behind two of the switches. The red LED is behind the DEF button, and is wired so that it turns on when the monovalve is

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2017-10-29 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Good work. How are you wiringvthe LEDs? To monitor if power is being passed by the devices properly? --R Sent from iPhone > On Oct 28, 2017, at 9:19 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > > The heat control has been flaky for some time, and as things cool down > it's

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL high idle

2012-04-22 Thread Jim Cathey
I caved recently and sent the SEL to the spa, which has taken care of the worst of the miscellaneous fluid leaks. I hope. When I took it in to get licensed it failed its stink test, due to its intermittent high idle. That old thing. I did some research and decided to try moving the brass plug

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-05-11 Thread Jim Cathey
Wretched car. I put the car up on ramps and started it, let it get good and warm. It was like a gentle warm rain under the car, all the various fluids dripping from above. The most immediately disturbing, and the last one to start, was coolant. I had thought that the heater core was holed and

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-05-11 Thread Rich Thomas
Well you won't have to worry about underbody rust. --R On 5/11/2011 11:00 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: Wretched car. I put the car up on ramps and started it, let it get good and warm. It was like a gentle warm rain under the car, all the various fluids dripping from above. The most immediately

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-05-11 Thread Gerry Archer
It was like a gentle warm rain under the car, all the various fluids dripping from above. Jim Truly a memorable and poetic line. A paean to the car fixit buffs of ancient and modern times. Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-05-11 Thread Max Dillon
Yes, I second the nomination for the Quotes page. Kaleb? Maybe a reading of the quotes at the Atlanta GTG is in order. Whose got good pipes? -Max -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: It was like a gentle warm rain

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-05-11 Thread Jim Cathey
It was like a gentle warm rain under the car, all the various fluids dripping from above. Translation: I couldn't find a place to lie under there where hot crap wouldn't be dropping on me. Made it hard to investigate! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-05 Thread Jim Cathey
It's official: I'm starting to hate this car. My wife went to pick up our son from school yesterday, and called me to say that the car was dripping. I had her drop by so I could take a look. Coolant, from the transmission area, a pretty significant flow. (The level wasn't really down much,

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-05 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Your problems aside, that is a really nice car. So incredibly well built and comfortable and fast. These things seem to go for nothing nowadays-perhaps due to the abysmal gas mileage. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:51 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: It's official: I'm

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread Mitch Haley
What if it is woefully 'out of tune', but switches from open loop to closed loop mode at a certain temperature, checks the O2 sensor and adjusts itself? Mitch. Jim Cathey wrote: So I've been driving the 560 SEL lately and it seems to me that it has one other odd behavior to go along with its

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Jim Cathey wrote: So I've been driving the 560 SEL lately and it seems to me that it has one other odd behavior to go along with its variably-high and sometimes rough idle: as it's warming up it is somewhat puny and rough running, but as the engine temperature gauge approaches normal

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread E M
I think your car has a WUR ? Maybe it's sticking a bit. I believe it has a bi-metal strip and an electrical connection. They're usually mounted on a warm part of the engine, so if the electrical portion fails, the housing will still get warm from the engine mounting, and activate the bi-metal

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread Dieselhead
Daughter's 380SL ran fast at idle and variable speeds. We found the timing way off, and fuel turned up high. I found the vacuum lines all messed up. Connecting them properly didn't seem to make a difference. Idle air solenoid is sticky. Kleb was supposed to bring me a replacement. Still

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread E M
My understanding is, the real purpose of the O2 is to keep the air and fuel metered at the proper stoichiometric ratio that the cats require to operate. So I would guess if you don't have cats on your car, you probably don't have an O2. With computers, they can help to workout the driving needs,

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread Jim Cathey
I think your car has a WUR? It has something, I'm sure, but not the classic bi-metallic WUR from the 450 days. This is a 1990 car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread OK Don
Reminders me of the 300SDL that had the idle control sensor and AC high engine temp sensor connectors switched -- the AC would run till the engine hit operatin temp, then it would turn off. The idle wasn't affected that I could tell, but it was a great running 603. Both sensors were in one housing

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2011-02-04 Thread Hendrik Fay
Given this car has KE jetronic injection it will have an O2 sensor, as info from the sensor tells the computer how to adjust the mixture via the EHA. I may or may not have cats. Timing issues are usually to do with the ignition computer but it is expensive so guesstimate replacement is not

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-11 Thread Jim Cathey
After a day the car still is driving right, and there's no appreciable change in the tank fluid level. Fixed? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-11 Thread Craig
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 07:55:10 -0800 Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: After a day the car still is driving right, and there's no appreciable change in the tank fluid level. Fixed? Sure seems like that is a possibility. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-09 Thread Jim Cathey
Well, the $9 repair of my rear SLS leak is provisionally successful. The story: I jacked up the back of the car, high as I could get it. Two jacks, two jackstands. I sprayed PB Blaster on all the hydraulic fittings. The height valve may have been messed with, the locknut isn't anywhere near

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-09 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net writes: It might be possible to find something from a place like Gardan Mfg., but their off-the-shelf selection didn't look that promising. The boot needs an extension range of 1.75-6.5 (overall length), an outside diameter of no more than 2.25, and a

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-09 Thread Max Dillon
Of Jim Cathey Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 7:35 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak Well, the $9 repair of my rear SLS leak is provisionally successful. The story: I jacked up the back of the car, high as I could get it. Two jacks, two jackstands. I

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-09 Thread Peter Frederick
Hot damn! I suspect air pressure isn't quite adequate to hold the car up, eh? Great job! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-09 Thread David Bruckmann
I presume she took note that this is a mineral oil hydraulic system (not synthetic/glycol-based). The mineral oil will eat rubbers not meant for it and vice-versa. On 2011-01-09, at 16:34, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: They looked pretty normal to her and she got out the calipers for

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-09 Thread Jim Cathey
I presume she took note that this is a mineral oil hydraulic system (not synthetic/glycol-based). The mineral oil will eat rubbers not meant for it and vice-versa. Dunno. It was a hydraulic cylinder shop, I think I may have mentioned mineral oil. Maybe not. Aren't most bulldozer cyls on

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL rear suspension leak

2011-01-09 Thread Jim Cathey
Wonder if the Astoria Flexx boot for rack and pinion units would work? http://www.astoria2000.com/fb4000info.html That looks pretty interesting! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder

2010-12-23 Thread Jim Cathey
I have a really old hydraulic floor jack with a leaky cylinder, have thought for some time to try to rehabilitate it. Are those similarly arranged? I think they can be repaired, but I've never done one. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder

2010-12-23 Thread Dieselhead
Rebuild depends on design and availability of parts. If the seals are all orings, you are in luck as long as metal parts are not worn badly. I think some jack pumps use a cup in the pump, and it may be hard to find replacement cups. I have worked on hyd cylinders that are in the range of

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder

2010-12-23 Thread Craig
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 07:41:43 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked on hyd cylinders that are in the range of 100 years old, but still perform regular duty made with leather cups. The leather cups are available. The cylinders run and work ok at 2000 psi. One I saw being

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder

2010-12-23 Thread Dieselhead
Yes, that is why leather can work in such a situation On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 07:41:43 -0600 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked on hyd cylinders that are in the range of 100 years old, but still perform regular duty made with leather cups. The leather cups are available. The

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2010-12-22 Thread Max Dillon
We'll be eagerly awaiting your results - I REALLY wish I hadn't thrown out the bad struts from my '87 wagon two summers ago. How did you already get the old apart? -Max From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2010-12-22 Thread Dieselhead
The 87 TD struts are different and I have been told by several different authoritative sources that they are not rebuildable. It hurt badly to throw out the terribly leaky struts from the 88TE, after I had to pay for new struts. But I looked over the greasy hulks and did not see any way to

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2010-12-22 Thread Jim Cathey
How did you already get the old apart? Snap rings hold it [strut] together. You need two thin wrenches to get the ball joint off the bottom. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2010-12-22 Thread Max Dillon
OK, didn't realize there was a difference between 126 struts and 124. -Max From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 9:04:41 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL The 87 TD struts

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2010-12-22 Thread Jim Cathey
The 87 TD struts are different and I have been told by several different authoritative sources that they are not rebuildable. Did you see: http://bmwe32.masscom.net/gavin/LAD_strut_rebuild.htm Does that crimped-on cap look anything like your strut? Mine doesn't have that. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2010-12-22 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: The 87 TD struts are different and I have been told by several different authoritative sources that they are not rebuildable. Did you see: http://bmwe32.masscom.net/gavin/LAD_strut_rebuild.htm That page agrees with

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder

2010-12-22 Thread Rich Thomas
I have a really old hydraulic floor jack with a leaky cylinder, have thought for some time to try to rehabilitate it. Are those similarly arranged? Parts available? Or should I take it off and take it to a shop and have them deal with it? --R On 12/22/2010 9:37 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: The

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder

2010-12-22 Thread Max Dillon
mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 10:05:47 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder I have a really old hydraulic floor jack with a leaky cylinder, have thought for some time to try to rehabilitate it. Are those similarly arranged? Parts available? Or should I take

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL -- now hyd cylinder

2010-12-22 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: I have a really old hydraulic floor jack with a leaky cylinder, have thought for some time to try to rehabilitate it. Are those similarly arranged? Parts available? Or should I take it off and take it to a shop and have them deal with it? Hydraulic cylinders are usually

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2010-12-22 Thread Dieselhead
I don't remember what theTD struts looked like. I threw them out years ago. I read that article when you posted it the first time. With that info, it might be possible to do a Catheyesque repair on them. The 87 TD struts are different and I have been told by several different

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL again

2010-10-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Anybody else find this as intriguing as I do? http://bmwe32.masscom.net/gavin/LAD_strut_rebuild.htm -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL again

2010-10-20 Thread Dieselhead
Interesting. Let us know how yours turn out, and where you get the parts from. I can see you are off on a mission! Anybody else find this as intriguing as I do? http://bmwe32.masscom.net/gavin/LAD_strut_rebuild.htm -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-10-15 Thread E M
Hi Rich, and thanks for the offer, but there are several of them around here close to home if I decide to take the plunge. ;-) Thanks again, Ed 300E 2009/10/14 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net If you are seriously interested I could go take a look at that car. It has been

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-10-14 Thread Rich Thomas
There's a black one that has been sitting on a used car dealer lot for months, and posted on CL every few days, $5450 http://charleston.craigslist.org/ctd/1419164721.html I have seen it driving by, looks nice exterior but I have not stopped to look at it. I think this is the one where you

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-10-14 Thread E M
Exterior looks nice. If they are in good running order and clean, it's a lot of car for $5000. I know I have an old brochure kicking around somewhere, that listed all the options. One of them, and an expensive one, was where the bench rear seat was replaced with two seats, and a center wood

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-10-14 Thread Rich Thomas
If you are seriously interested I could go take a look at that car. It has been listed long enough they might be willing to entertain offers. --R E M wrote: Exterior looks nice. If they are in good running order and clean, it's a lot of car for $5000. I know I have an old brochure kicking

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL HVAC

2009-07-20 Thread Jim Cathey
I got it working again, four (!) of the valves in the valve block were bad. Unfortunately two of the ones in the one I got at the U-Pull were also bad. ($3 for the part.) Fortunately there is room for _two_ valve blocks in there, so I just put them both in and mix-and-matched to get seven

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL HVAC

2009-07-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
now tell us again how you tested the valves Jim Cathey wrote: I got it working again, four (!) of the valves in the valve block were bad. Unfortunately two of the ones in the one I got at the U-Pull were also bad. ($3 for the part.) Fortunately there is room for _two_ valve blocks in there,

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL HVAC

2009-07-20 Thread Jim Cathey
now tell us again how you tested the valves Ohmmeter. See: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/mamerepairs.html#acctest -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL HVAC

2009-07-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Oh, and the details (along with connection chart) of the valve body repair are at: http://userweb.windwireless.net/~jimc/SELlog.html#19Jul2009 -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL HVAC

2009-07-19 Thread LWB250
Jim, Did you reflow the solder joints between the bottom board and the side boards? That's the most common area for failures when it comes to solder joints in the PB units. Dan --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Subject:

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL HVAC

2009-07-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Did you reflow the solder joints between the bottom board and the side boards? That's the most common area for failures when it comes to solder joints in the PB units. No side boards in the later 126 units. (The side board problem is a biggie for the ones with the little translucent AUTO

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-06-27 Thread Jim Cathey
I was putting the car back together today after repairing the cruise control and lubricating the HVAC motors. While looking in the trunk for the screws I found _two_ radio code cards peeking out of a corner. They're even the right code. Well, _that_ would have been better to find much earlier!

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-06-27 Thread WILTON
'Nother ATTABOY. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL I was putting the car back together today after repairing the cruise control

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-28 Thread Trampas Stern
Brushes were cheaper than Honda minivan, but Honda minivan was cheaper than new wife... Trampas On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:21 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Take the radio to a dealer and they will give you the code for free. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Jim Cathey

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-28 Thread Jim Cathey
Brushes were cheaper than Honda minivan, but Honda minivan was cheaper than new wife... New wives aren't that expensive, it's the disposal fee on the old one that kills you! :-) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-27 Thread andrew strasfogel
Take the radio to a dealer and they will give you the code for free. On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: Got the new window slider in today, always fun to use a BFH and an anvil to fix your car. Got the door panel back on, but not the handles and trim.

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-22 Thread Tim C .
-Original Message- From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 1:50 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL Does Rusty have the riveted sliders? Yes he does. And mine are on the way. (I ordered a spare.) I'll give you $100

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-22 Thread Trampas Stern
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL Does Rusty have the riveted sliders? Yes he does. And mine are on the way. (I ordered a spare.) I'll give you $100 for it. Thanks for the offer, I think I'll pass right now. I learned last week you can buy just a slider and peen it on the arm. BTDT

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-22 Thread kevin kraly
I would think that replacing alternator brushes would cost A LOT LESS MONEY than a new Honda Minivan. Even if you factor in all of the other nickel and dime issues that would come up with the old Mercedes over the term of the Honda Minivan payment plan, you're coming out way ahead. Of

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-20 Thread Rich Thomas
I'll give you $100 for it. I learned last week you can buy just a slider and peen it on the arm. --R Jim Cathey wrote: More fun, the nylon slider broke in one of the rear windows. My wife has summarily decided that the car's a POS, and doesn't want to drive it anymore. (Watch out, the

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-20 Thread WILTON
Does Rusty have the riveted sliders? Wilton - Original Message - From: Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: [MBZ] 560 SEL More fun, the nylon slider broke in one of the rear windows. My

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-20 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: More fun, the nylon slider broke in one of the rear windows. My wife has summarily decided that the car's a POS, and doesn't want to drive it anymore. (Watch out, the ashtrays might be dirty too.) I suspect Jill has a natural bias against that thing, stemming from the way

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-20 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yep, once the women folk decide that, its downhill from there. Jim Cathey wrote: More fun, the nylon slider broke in one of the rear windows. My wife has summarily decided that the car's a POS, and doesn't want to drive it anymore. (Watch out, the ashtrays might be dirty too.) -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-20 Thread E M
well I blew a coolant hose today while sitting at a coffee shop. Came out, coolant EVEYRWHERE! Hmmm, ok, walk a few kms to the nearest shopping mall, buy two 10 liter jugs of water, walk back. Dig the magic roll of plumbers take out of the toolbox, (which holds to about 100 psi), order another

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL

2009-05-20 Thread Jim Cathey
Does Rusty have the riveted sliders? Yes he does. And mine are on the way. (I ordered a spare.) I'll give you $100 for it. Thanks for the offer, I think I'll pass right now. I learned last week you can buy just a slider and peen it on the arm. BTDT, on the SDL. I suspect Jill has a

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-15 Thread Jim Cathey
Also as I recall their is a one valve assembly which has different springs for first gear start. thus if the seals on this value is bad or sticking it can cause problems. I can say that I'm pretty sure I feel it drop into 1st from 2nd when leaving a stop, and that with the cable loosened it

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-15 Thread Mathieu J . Cama
Kickdown switch stuck closed or kickdown solenoid is stuck in activated position. Both of those match your symptoms 100% and other defects would have other symptoms. What gives it away is the car dropping into first when leaving a stop. That is activated by the kickdown mechanism or by

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-15 Thread Jim Cathey
Kickdown switch stuck closed or kickdown solenoid is stuck in activated position. Both of those match your symptoms 100% and other defects would have other symptoms. What gives it away is the car dropping into first when leaving a stop. That is activated by the kickdown mechanism or by

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-15 Thread Mitch Haley
Jim Cathey wrote: I will test this, but I recall from my 560 SL that it normally rests in second, and normally shifts to first on takeoff. My '79 300SD accomplishes that via the kickdown solenoid. There's an underhood relay that controls exactly when the kickdown is activated, but I can't

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-15 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-15 Thread Jim Cathey
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Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
the control cable is out of adjustment. But all the other shifts seem fine. I thought a badly whacked cable resulted in across-the-board bad shifting? I didn't notice anything particularly strange about the cable, I know that it _is_ hooked up for example. The cable was slightly wrong on the

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-14 Thread Trampas Stern
I should have been clearer. If the kick down switch works it most likely is not stuck. If it does not kick down then it could be stuck. Also as I recall their is a one valve assembly which has different springs for first gear start. thus if the seals on this value is bad or sticking it can cause

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-14 Thread Trampas Stern
Does the kick down switch work? Sometimes the solenoid can stick. Trampas On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:01 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: the control cable is out of adjustment. But all the other shifts seem fine. I thought a badly whacked cable resulted in across-the-board bad

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-14 Thread Jim Cathey
Does the kick down switch work? Sometimes the solenoid can stick. Yes, works fine. the control cable is out of adjustment. The tranny cable adjustment has made it a little more palatable for regular driving, but if you romp on it at all it'll still go up and bounce off the rev limiter

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-13 Thread OK Don
Sounds like Kaleb has been near it On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: So, anybody have any ideas about why the SEL will not shift out of first gear unless you lift off the throttle? (Only above about 25 MPH.) It's not the kickdown switch, as it

Re: [MBZ] 560 SEL shifting

2009-05-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the control cable is out of adjustment. Jim Cathey wrote: So, anybody have any ideas about why the SEL will not shift out of first gear unless you lift off the throttle? (Only above about 25 MPH.) It's not the kickdown switch, as it operates if you toe it, as does the side-gate switch in the

Re: [MBZ] @#$% 560 SEL water pump

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Cathey
Progress! I took a look at the nearly-frozen AC idler bearing, and removed it from the dogleg. I then cleaned it and carefully pried out the (hardened) rubber seal, exposing the dry bearing. A shot of brake cleaner loosened everything up, then I cleaned out the bearing and blew it dry with

Re: [MBZ] @#$% 560 SEL water pump

2009-05-09 Thread Jim Cathey
In another session in the evening I scraped off the gasket surfaces and installed the water pump. That took a long time, due to the tenacity of the old gasket. I tried to be careful with the razor blade not to damage the metal surfaces. Once done I transferred the thermostat to the new pump,

Re: [MBZ] @#$% 560 SEL water pump

2009-05-05 Thread Jim Cathey
I don't remember if I reported this or not, but once it was all apart I was able to check to see if an Allen bolt would be removable 'easily'. Verdict: I don't think so. I pressure-washed the area, that's as far as I've gotten so far. I still need to remove the suspension pump for re-sealing.

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