Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?
Let me also suggest that you go to an autobody shop supplier and ask for their advice on what to use. I'm told (but cannot say how good the authority is) that using silicon is not a good idea to seal vehicles as it somehow contributes to rust. Don't know if that would apply to windshields but I was told not to use it to seal the fender to body seams of my old Chevy Suburban (of course that was after I had already done it). The other thing is of course, that silicon is a devil to remove when you get around to doing the paint. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays? Lady across the street told me to go get some clear latex gack and gack up the window and any other leak. Nice little old lady. Said she did that to her buick. Not sure if I should use the large tube and do both sides of the windows. That's what's holding the Falcon together. I must say that the clear silicone guck does not last out in the UV. It turns yellow and rots. If you can arrange for a little better application and cleanup, the black would probably hold up much better. That's what the Frankenheap is going to get one of these days. (Years?) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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is) that using silicon is not a good idea to seal vehicles as it somehow contributes to rust. Don't know if that would apply to windshields Silicone (note 'e') RTV is not good to put in contact with metal because it is acidic. For the rubber-to-glass interface it's fine, but for the rubber-to-metal side of the seal it could be problematic. I think there are some non-acidic RTV's out there. If so they'd be different. -- Jim
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Lady across the street told me to go get some clear latex gack and gack up the window and any other leak. Nice little old lady. Said she did that to her buick. Not sure if I should use the large tube and do both sides of the windows. That's what's holding the Falcon together. I must say that the clear silicone guck does not last out in the UV. It turns yellow and rots. If you can arrange for a little better application and cleanup, the black would probably hold up much better. That's what the Frankenheap is going to get one of these days. (Years?) -- Jim
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Black may be the better choice as well. Since the front window is cracked and going to need replace, might as well just gack it so that no water gets into the cabin. Might have to remove the driver side window and replace the mirror. Wish I could find the window trim strip while I have the window out. Wonder if one of those italian rally mirrors would look ok On Friday, January 6, 2006, at 04:50 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Lady across the street told me to go get some clear latex gack and gack up the window and any other leak. Nice little old lady. Said she did that to her buick. Not sure if I should use the large tube and do both sides of the windows. That's what's holding the Falcon together. I must say that the clear silicone guck does not last out in the UV. It turns yellow and rots. If you can arrange for a little better application and cleanup, the black would probably hold up much better. That's what the Frankenheap is going to get one of these days. (Years?) -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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no water gets into the cabin. Might have to remove the driver side window and replace the mirror. Wish I could find the window trim strip A zero-fun job. I ended up taking the door off and turning it over. -- Jim
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Could be that the console was upgraded? I have not found the red dot in cars older than 74, but some of the 73s have the larger flasher at PnP. I guess I could try more resolder, but that was a pain. May just spring for a used relay and play with the old one at my leisure On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 02:58 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I have the candy bar AND the blinker relay. Pulled the blinker yesterday and resoldered. it worked for maybe 12 blinks then died. Cycled the candy bar 25 times and no return to blink. Buzzing in the blink relay. Wash, rinse, repeat. (Often I have to repeat such repairs a time or two before they 'take'). Weird that you have two blinkers. I'd always thought your car was of the red-dot era. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Could be that the console was upgraded? I have not found the red dot in cars older than 74, but some of the 73s have the larger flasher at You mean _newer_ than 74? Ours are both dotties, and are nominally MY '71. PnP. I guess I could try more resolder, but that was a pain. May just Surely can't be as hard as repeated head removal! Persevere. I try to think of it as training. spring for a used relay and play with the old one at my leisure That also works. -- Jim
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I am a lazy SOB, and have spent the past two days chasing a trunk leak in the driving rain. For the life of me, i have no idea where the water is getting in. About to park my behind in the trunk with a light and see where it is getting in. New tail lights with gaskets and newer trunk seal. Have not been able to find if the rear window is leaking. A huge genset is not the same as a silly relay And the thing is not an old mac that works well with the LD for movie copies, it is a part, and a non functioning part at that. Not sure why some cars got the red dot and some had the other. May be an AC thing. now that I think on it, the dots are found in the cars with air at PnP, and found the larger ones on non AC. Also something with the seat belt lamp being in the place the red dot lives. going to have to figure that one out. On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 07:38 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Could be that the console was upgraded? I have not found the red dot in cars older than 74, but some of the 73s have the larger flasher at You mean _newer_ than 74? Ours are both dotties, and are nominally MY '71. PnP. I guess I could try more resolder, but that was a pain. May just Surely can't be as hard as repeated head removal! Persevere. I try to think of it as training. spring for a used relay and play with the old one at my leisure That also works. -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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I am a lazy SOB, and have spent the past two days chasing a trunk leak in the driving rain. For the life of me, i have no idea where the water is getting in. About to park my behind in the trunk with a light and see where it is getting in. New tail lights with gaskets and newer trunk seal. Have not been able to find if the rear window is leaking. Probably that, or the fuel grommet. My understanding of leak faults is #1 taillights, #2 window. The rest lost in the noise. But I could have those first two backwards! A huge genset is not the same as a silly relay Parts is parts, it's all just a matter of scale. And the will to not take any backtalk from machinery, neither big nor small. Sometimes, of course, it has the last word anyway. Not sure why some cars got the red dot and some had the other. May be an AC thing. now that I think on it, the dots are found in the cars with air at PnP, and found the larger ones on non AC. Also something with the seat belt lamp being in the place the red dot lives. Riddle me this: the Frankenheap has no AC, and has a red dot. The Ebola Fishtank has AC, and has a red dot. I think it's just age-related. -- Jim
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Got me then on red dot. The large thing is what Gump came with. Finding that console at PnP is rare compared to the other and I would have to assume from taking the parts out of the console that placement down low for the larger relay may have interfered with the squirrel cage for the AC. Then, again, the ash tray takes up the same depth at that latitude. Part is part, and I would be more inclined to really screw with things if I had a warm dry place to work . Worked well in the summer when it was not raining, but now, just no room, and I am not allowed to spray paint inside either. I may just have to seal old Gump up for winters and vacuum wrap her to keep her dry. On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 10:57 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I am a lazy SOB, and have spent the past two days chasing a trunk leak in the driving rain. For the life of me, i have no idea where the water is getting in. About to park my behind in the trunk with a light and see where it is getting in. New tail lights with gaskets and newer trunk seal. Have not been able to find if the rear window is leaking. Probably that, or the fuel grommet. My understanding of leak faults is #1 taillights, #2 window. The rest lost in the noise. But I could have those first two backwards! A huge genset is not the same as a silly relay Parts is parts, it's all just a matter of scale. And the will to not take any backtalk from machinery, neither big nor small. Sometimes, of course, it has the last word anyway. Not sure why some cars got the red dot and some had the other. May be an AC thing. now that I think on it, the dots are found in the cars with air at PnP, and found the larger ones on non AC. Also something with the seat belt lamp being in the place the red dot lives. Riddle me this: the Frankenheap has no AC, and has a red dot. The Ebola Fishtank has AC, and has a red dot. I think it's just age-related. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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I may just have to seal old Gump up for winters and vacuum wrap her to keep her dry. What about the periodically-on-sale $170 Harbor Freight portable garage? I have one but have not set it up, so I can't speak to just how bad it might be, but it's a thought. I know, it's galling to contemplate spending more on the tent than you did on the car that goes in it! -- Jim
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I gave up and went to Benz Friendz for a relay. Seems both the hazard and the blinker relay were bad. Will re-solder the old ones. Took a look at the footwells too. SOAKED, I mean really soaking wet carpet. Got to drag those out and ran shop vac to get some moisture to leave. Got the tiny plug in fan and some calcium choride to suck up the vapor. It may dry out in May or July. Lady across the street told me to go get some clear latex gack and gack up the window and any other leak. Nice little old lady. Said she did that to her buick. Not sure if I should use the large tube and do both sides of the windows. Not ready to spring for new glass, since I want to paint while the glass is out, and I have passed budget on the car for the month On Friday, January 6, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: I may just have to seal old Gump up for winters and vacuum wrap her to keep her dry. What about the periodically-on-sale $170 Harbor Freight portable garage? I have one but have not set it up, so I can't speak to just how bad it might be, but it's a thought. I know, it's galling to contemplate spending more on the tent than you did on the car that goes in it! -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Nope. Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/ wizard.jsp?partner=buymbclientid=buymbpartsbaseurl=http:// www.buymbparts.com/ cookieid=1JY19NLIW1PA191LYRyear=1972make=MBmodel=220-D- 001category=Ppart=Hazard+Flasher+Switch and http://catalog.eautopartscatalog.com/buymb/ wizard.jsp?partner=buymbclientid=buymbpartsbaseurl=http:// www.buymbparts.com/ cookieid=1JY19NLIW1PA191LYRyear=1972make=MBmodel=220-D- 001category=Ppart=Turn+Signal+Relay I removed the turn signal relay that lives under the left side of the dash and re-soldered. will see if that had an impact. Damn thing fell apart when I tried to pull it off. Still not sure where the timer relay for the back window lives On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 12:52 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: The hazard relay? Gone bad? But it works and the other one is not. SO, just clean them both? I'm confused. Both what? The _only_ flasher is the combination hazard switch/flasher relay. One part. Does it all. -- Jim -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Have you seen this Clay? http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/122576367.html Probably has a relay in it somewhere. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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I had not seen that. I will contact and see what he needs On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 06:14 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: Have you seen this Clay? http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/122576367.html Probably has a relay in it somewhere. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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He needs a Chrysler Imperial. Got one? On 1/4/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had not seen that. I will contact and see what he needs Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K)
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I got butkis to offer. He is going to hold onto it for a few more days waiting for an old chrysler On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 07:17 PM, Zeitgeist wrote: He needs a Chrysler Imperial. Got one? On 1/4/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had not seen that. I will contact and see what he needs Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (207k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (186K) ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Nope. Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system. I have schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay. Instead! But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar. I don't know if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just a switch like the later red rocker. But if you have a red-dot knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting the pleasure of your company. -- Jim
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ON cars with the big red button, that IS the flasher relay. This is true on 107, 108, 114, 115, 123, 116 etc Jim Cathey wrote: Nope. Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system. I have schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay. Instead! But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar. I don't know if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just a switch like the later red rocker. But if you have a red-dot knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting the pleasure of your company. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net
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I have the candy bar AND the blinker relay. Pulled the blinker yesterday and resoldered. it worked for maybe 12 blinks then died. Cycled the candy bar 25 times and no return to blink. Buzzing in the blink relay. On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 11:32 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Nope. Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system. I have schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay. Instead! But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar. I don't know if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just a switch like the later red rocker. But if you have a red-dot knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting the pleasure of your company. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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flasher is not turn signal though On Thursday, January 5, 2006, at 06:47 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: ON cars with the big red button, that IS the flasher relay. This is true on 107, 108, 114, 115, 123, 116 etc Jim Cathey wrote: Nope. Rusty has parts for both hazard and for signal relay There exist 115's that don't have a hazard system. I have schematics for them too, and they have a signal relay. Instead! But I've never seen such a car, every 114/115 I've seen has a red-dot knob or that gigantic red candy bar. I don't know if the candy bar has a flasher inside it, or whether it's just a switch like the later red rocker. But if you have a red-dot knob, the only flasher in your car is inside it, and is awaiting the pleasure of your company. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:18:27PM -0800, redghost wrote: Anybody have a set of spare relays that control the rear defog or the blinkers? Gump is having some issue with getting heat or current to the rear window, and has decided to make the directional signals function at whim. The directional signals, if like 123, might be repaired by cycling the hazard switch several times (like 20 or so). If not, I'd probably check fuses first. K
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If you can describe the defog relay, I probably have it. It'd be off of a 76 300D. It might take me a week or two to get it from the car. I sold the blinker switch to Chuck in Falls Church. Try contact cleaner and cycling yours. At 08:18 PM 1/3/2006, you wrote: Anybody have a set of spare relays that control the rear defog or the blinkers? Gump is having some issue with getting heat or current to the rear window, and has decided to make the directional signals function at whim. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Fresh fuses, and I did the cycle hazard trick to no avail. I can hear the stupid relay clicking away at high speed like a machine gun. Not sure I can resolder the dumb thing. Can I? On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 06:38 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:18:27PM -0800, redghost wrote: Anybody have a set of spare relays that control the rear defog or the blinkers? Gump is having some issue with getting heat or current to the rear window, and has decided to make the directional signals function at whim. The directional signals, if like 123, might be repaired by cycling the hazard switch several times (like 20 or so). If not, I'd probably check fuses first. K -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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Will have to go dig the thing out. I was hoping somebody would be able to point it out by actually having one that I could then dig out of the foot well. May as well just put her on blocks for a day and dig out the solder gun. On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 07:00 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: If you can describe the defog relay, I probably have it. It'd be off of a 76 300D. It might take me a week or two to get it from the car. I sold the blinker switch to Chuck in Falls Church. Try contact cleaner and cycling yours. At 08:18 PM 1/3/2006, you wrote: Anybody have a set of spare relays that control the rear defog or the blinkers? Gump is having some issue with getting heat or current to the rear window, and has decided to make the directional signals function at whim. -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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The machine gun turn signal relay generally turns out to be either a bad turn signal bulb or a short in the wiring leading to the bulb(s.) Unlikely, IMO, to be a fault with the relay itself, or a problem with the fuses. Lee redghost wrote: Fresh fuses, and I did the cycle hazard trick to no avail. I can hear the stupid relay clicking away at high speed like a machine gun. Not sure I can resolder the dumb thing. Can I? On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 06:38 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:18:27PM -0800, redghost wrote: Anybody have a set of spare relays that control the rear defog or the blinkers? Gump is having some issue with getting heat or current to the rear window, and has decided to make the directional signals function at whim. The directional signals, if like 123, might be repaired by cycling the hazard switch several times (like 20 or so). If not, I'd probably check fuses first. K -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com
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Fresh fuses, and I did the cycle hazard trick to no avail. I can hear the stupid relay clicking away at high speed like a machine gun. Not sure I can resolder the dumb thing. Can I? Yes, my son. Use the Force... (Sorry, just watched SW again, on LD of course.) I just did this on the Frankenheap, a full-metal resoldering and contact cleaning. Worked like a charm, though its problem was non-blinkiness, not machine-gunning. The trick to getting the thing back together is to turn on the hazard function first. -- Jim
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Great! now I have to trace an intermittent short? New bulbs, so should not be that. On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 07:57 PM, Lee Einer wrote: The machine gun turn signal relay generally turns out to be either a bad turn signal bulb or a short in the wiring leading to the bulb(s.) Unlikely, IMO, to be a fault with the relay itself, or a problem with the fuses. Lee redghost wrote: Fresh fuses, and I did the cycle hazard trick to no avail. I can hear the stupid relay clicking away at high speed like a machine gun. Not sure I can resolder the dumb thing. Can I? On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 06:38 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:18:27PM -0800, redghost wrote: Anybody have a set of spare relays that control the rear defog or the blinkers? Gump is having some issue with getting heat or current to the rear window, and has decided to make the directional signals function at whim. The directional signals, if like 123, might be repaired by cycling the hazard switch several times (like 20 or so). If not, I'd probably check fuses first. K -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?
The relay makes the noise, the blink do not blink. The hazards work just fine and blink all around, even when the signal choses not not function. On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 08:26 PM, Jim Cathey wrote: Fresh fuses, and I did the cycle hazard trick to no avail. I can hear the stupid relay clicking away at high speed like a machine gun. Not sure I can resolder the dumb thing. Can I? Yes, my son. Use the Force... (Sorry, just watched SW again, on LD of course.) I just did this on the Frankenheap, a full-metal resoldering and contact cleaning. Worked like a charm, though its problem was non-blinkiness, not machine-gunning. The trick to getting the thing back together is to turn on the hazard function first. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?
Might be. Rain has been heavy and Gump does leak a little On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 08:26 PM, Loren Faeth wrote: Bad ground? At 09:57 PM 1/3/2006, you wrote: The machine gun turn signal relay generally turns out to be either a bad turn signal bulb or a short in the wiring leading to the bulb(s.) Unlikely, IMO, to be a fault with the relay itself, or a problem with the fuses. Lee redghost wrote: Fresh fuses, and I did the cycle hazard trick to no avail. I can hear the stupid relay clicking away at high speed like a machine gun. Not sure I can resolder the dumb thing. Can I? On Tuesday, January 3, 2006, at 06:38 PM, Kevin wrote: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:18:27PM -0800, redghost wrote: Anybody have a set of spare relays that control the rear defog or the blinkers? Gump is having some issue with getting heat or current to the rear window, and has decided to make the directional signals function at whim. The directional signals, if like 123, might be repaired by cycling the hazard switch several times (like 20 or so). If not, I'd probably check fuses first. K -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Lee Einer Dos Manos Jewelry http://www.dosmanosjewelry.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] Spare 115 relays?
The hazard relay? Gone bad? But it works and the other one is not. SO, just clean them both? I'm confused. Both what? The _only_ flasher is the combination hazard switch/flasher relay. One part. Does it all. -- Jim
