Re: [osdcmy] Re: Penyataan akbar bersama Malaysia Social Media Foundation - Persatuan Sistem Bebas dan Sumber Terbuka Malaysia

2012-08-11 Terurut Topik red1
berkenaanPersatuan Sistem Bebas dan Sumber Terbuka Malaysia? Pada Jumaat, 13 April 2012 8:46:54 pg UTC+8, red1 menulis: Penyataan akbar bersama Malaysia Social Media Foundation (MSMF) - Persatuan Sistem Bebas dan Sumber Terbuka Malaysia (PSBSTM) Bertempat di Bilik Bunga Kenanga, Hotel Seri Pacific

[osdcmy] Fwd: Re: Kertas Pembentangan Sesi Open Day 30/7/2012 Kajian Semula National Strategic ICT Roadmaps dan Technology Roadmaps.

2012-07-30 Terurut Topik red1
Geng, Original Message Subject: Re: Kertas Pembentangan Sesi Open Day 30/7/2012 Kajian Semula National Strategic ICT Roadmaps dan Technology Roadmaps. Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 08:16:42 +0800 From: red1 r

Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Re: Kertas Pembentangan Sesi Open Day 30/7/2012 Kajian Semula National Strategic ICT Roadmaps dan Technology Roadmaps.

2012-07-30 Terurut Topik red1
: Tuan Red1, Is it possible to share the document for knowledge's sake ? Thanks Redzuan Affandi® ”...the ability or inability of societies to master technology, and particularly technologies that are strategically decisive in each historical period, largely shapes their destiny…” Manuel

[osdcmy] Fwd: Re: JEMPUTAN SEBAGAI PEMBENTANG DI SESI EKSKLUSIF CIO - BENGKEL SELF RELIANCE PROGRAM OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE (OSS) SEKTOR AWAM FASA III - SIRI 3

2012-07-30 Terurut Topik red1
Geng, Original Message Subject: Re: JEMPUTAN SEBAGAI PEMBENTANG DI SESI EKSKLUSIF CIO - BENGKEL SELF RELIANCE PROGRAM OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE (OSS) SEKTOR AWAM FASA III - SIRI 3 Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 09:53:30 +0800

Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: Re: Kertas Pembentangan Sesi Open Day 30/7/2012 Kajian Semula National Strategic ICT Roadmaps dan Technology Roadmaps.

2012-07-30 Terurut Topik red1
of the Network Society (1996) On 31 July 2012 09:57, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: I was told it is under  something like OSA. So bro... I don't mind going to jail if they can assure me they got Unify in there. I can become a famous FOSS jail-bird hehe. Ah.. what the heck.. i am not born

[osdcmy] Re: JEMPUTAN SEBAGAI PEMBENTANG DI SESI EKSKLUSIF CIO - BENGKEL SELF RELIANCE PROGRAM OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE (OSS) SEKTOR AWAM FASA III - SIRI 3

2012-07-30 Terurut Topik red1
Ok boss.. though i am just a messenger who always get shot. Terima kasih atas nasihat ini. Saya diam-diamlah sekarang. On 7/31/12 10:41 AM, Abu Mansur wrote: Brother Red1, timing is everything. We will not achieve anything in random rants you know. Don't spray all your bullets at random

Re: [osdcmy] MNCC AGM This Coming Thursday

2012-06-27 Terurut Topik red1
Luckily at 6pm. See u all tomorrow then! On 6/27/12 4:02 PM, Sufian Ahmad wrote: if i am not mistaken, u can also register esp if you have broad experienced in IT "Shall be a person who holds a recognized Information and Communications Technology (ICT)- related academic degree or

Re: [osdcmy] Share your story and become famous

2012-06-15 Terurut Topik red1
and benefit from your experience. Salam sayang dari Putrajaya ke Kuang. Haha P/S : Petang ni saya balik Kuang selepas kelas Sent from my BlackBerryŽ wireless device via Vodafone-Celcom Mobile. -Original Message- From: red1r...@red1.org Sender: osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 16

Re: [osdcmy] Share your story and become famous

2012-06-15 Terurut Topik red1
. Sesiapa lain nak ikut kene mari dengan 4WD. red1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia/ Malaysia Open Source Conference 2012 MOSC2012 http

Re: [osdcmy] Ingin Menjadi Pembangun Perisian Bebas diiktiraf Jerman?

2012-06-12 Terurut Topik red1
. On 6/12/12 2:15 PM, Tajul Azhar wrote: Bro Red1, possible ke ada slot untuk kakitangan ICT di dalam kerajaan Malaysia? Awek tu nak datang ke rasa? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http

Re: [osdcmy] Re: Ingin Menjadi Pembangun Perisian Bebas diiktiraf Jerman?

2012-06-12 Terurut Topik red1
:30 PM, [HM] wrote: Pelajar tempatan? Means utk student shj? Those who currently employed tak boleh apply?? (tapi, still tak lepas merit Math English tu) On Jun 12, 2:13 pm, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini jipangmenje...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/6/11 red1r...@red1.org -- To unsubscribe from

Re: [osdcmy] Ingin Menjadi Pembangun Perisian Bebas diiktiraf Jerman?

2012-06-10 Terurut Topik red1
...@gmail.com menulis: saya mampu jadi sysadmin je sekarang..hihi..good luck siapa yang mencuba nasib! :D 2012/6/8 red1 r...@red1.org ANK: Ya, boleh. ada juga kat FB saya: /red1org MII: Saya pun tak lepas piawaian dunia. Saya pakai kepala otak fikir cara

Re: [osdcmy] Ingin Menjadi Pembangun Perisian Bebas diiktiraf Jerman?

2012-06-08 Terurut Topik red1
mencapai piawai yg ditetapkan. Pada 8 Jun 2012 12:56 PG, red1 r...@red1.org menulis: Saudara/i warga perisian bebas, Projek komuniti ADempiere kini ada peluang bagi pelajar tempatan menjejaki cara hidup bebas berdikari dengan kepakaran pelbagai ilmu perisian bebas seperti

[osdcmy] Ingin Menjadi Pembangun Perisian Bebas diiktiraf Jerman?

2012-06-07 Terurut Topik red1
Saudara/i warga perisian bebas, Projek komuniti ADempiere kini ada peluang bagi pelajar tempatan menjejaki cara hidup bebas berdikari dengan kepakaran pelbagai ilmu perisian bebas seperti Fitnesse, Java, Junit, OSGi, Ext JSP, PostgreSQL dan HTML5 dengan melibatkan diri dalam satu projek yang

Re: [osdcmy] Re: [KOSTEM] I am closing my Facebook account

2012-04-25 Terurut Topik red1
Maybe it is not FB fault but the user and you just need some simple rules? Thanks to FB's contacts got me a free trip to Austria and an apartment to stay in Paris. On 4/21/12 7:13 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: too chaotic and unorganised huge waste of time -- To unsubscribe from and

[osdcmy] Penyataan akbar bersama Malaysia Social Media Foundation - Persatuan Sistem Bebas dan Sumber Terbuka Malaysia

2012-04-12 Terurut Topik red1
Penyataan akbar bersama  Malaysia Social Media Foundation (MSMF) - Persatuan Sistem Bebas dan Sumber Terbuka Malaysia (PSBSTM) Bertempat di Bilik Bunga Kenanga, Hotel Seri Pacific, Kuala Lumpur pada April 11, 2012, satu mesyuarat telah menetapkan beberapa resolusi untuk pertimbangan sewajar

[osdcmy] Panggilan mesyurat tergempar OSDC.my

2012-04-06 Terurut Topik red1
This is to re-ping Haris Hashim (just another newbie activist) effort below. Tuan/Puan Saudara/i semua. Ini adalah panggilan mesyuarat tergempar bagi maksud urusan penubuhan NGO kita iaitu OSDC.my yang masih tidak diluluskan pendaftarannya oleh Pendaftar Pertubuhan. Setelah mendapat

Re: [osdcmy] UK Gov gores open source

2012-02-05 Terurut Topik red1
Bit slow from here to access M'sian gov.my. Must be due to heavy old grafix used. Can anyone propose to the PM's Office for the needed upgrade? Greetings from So Paulo, Brazil. On 2/5/12 11:33 AM, hadri hilmi wrote: It looks very cleanhttps://www.gov.uk/ Oh my

Re: [osdcmy] Synch between OpenBravo POS and ADempiere made Free and Open

2011-09-05 Terurut Topik red1
, 2011 at 10:55 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: http://red1.org/adempiere/viewtopic.php?f=29t=1356p=6654#p6654 enjoy~ red1 Aidil Fitri alMubarak~ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my

Re: [osdcmy] Fwd: [SFD-announce] SFD 2011 registration is LIVE!!!

2011-09-03 Terurut Topik red1
Since it starts from 9pm to 4pm, can i come at 12am? I will come, unless i got employed :) On 9/3/11 8:12 AM, sweemeng ng wrote: nice, if i get a leave, i will be there On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 10:52 PM, linuxmalaysia linuxmalay...@gmail.com wrote: Team I need to bring this up

[osdcmy] Synch between OpenBravo POS and ADempiere made Free and Open

2011-09-02 Terurut Topik red1
http://red1.org/adempiere/viewtopic.php?f=29t=1356p=6654#p6654 enjoy~ red1 Aidil Fitri alMubarak~ -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information OSDC.my Discussion Group In Facebook http://www.facebook.com/groups/osdcmalaysia

[osdcmy] Using UISpec4J To Test Java GUI Panels

2011-08-12 Terurut Topik red1
Something to make Azrul drool, unless he beaten me to it which is always the case. http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2011/08/uispec4j-with-fitnesse-test-pos.html Jouir de la liberté, profiter de la vie red1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my

Re: [osdcmy] What Programming Language you start with? The one you learn the logic and flow of programming

2011-07-31 Terurut Topik red1
Just back from Manila and among the students at Colleges and Unis there they seem to be given: 1. Java for one year. But they ended up using Python and quite good at it. 2. SAP ERP - just functional theory. Their heads of education told me that issue is time, not dreams. Yes, they like to

Re: [osdcmy] We Need Brand Awareness

2011-05-14 Terurut Topik red1
The power of branding here, it is not just about the product or the twit ... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_twitter_feed_fight On Apr 30, 2011 8:37 PM, "Garfield WTF" garfi...@debmal.my wrote: I am willing to work together with you in this, if there is no one stopping

Re: [osdcmy] Google Prediction API

2011-05-13 Terurut Topik red1
On 5/13/11 6:12 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: i wonder if we can dump the historical data of the iraq war, then try to predict the future outcome of the libya invasion ? that would be extremely strategic. i knew you are capable of asking such an outlandish question. -- To unsubscribe from

Re: [osdcmy] Google Prediction API

2011-05-13 Terurut Topik red1
Can it predict when the drained brains return to Malaysia? On 5/13/11 6:52 PM, sweemeng ng wrote: Or you teach a powerful ai battlefield strategy to enslave mankind On May 13, 2011 6:12 PM, "Raja Iskandar Shah" rajaiskand...@gmail.com wrote: i wonder if we can dump the historical data

[osdcmy] Let us all hear from Linus

2011-05-10 Terurut Topik red1
Was passed to me by my mentor and i share Linus most recent remarks here: http://linuxfr.org/nodes/85904/comments/1230981 btw, Microsoft is buying Skype today at USD7b. Go GooglePhone you guys. Or better still jump on the bandwagon and produce one app like that :) -- To unsubscribe from and

Re: [osdcmy] Calling Python i mean Mac guru

2011-05-10 Terurut Topik red1
Ah! Azrul! Cava bien. Et al, Je vous present http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2011/05/idempiere-adempiere-on-osgi.html Au voir! On 5/10/11 9:51 PM, Azrul MADISA wrote: Or u can virtualize the whole thing On May 9, 2011 4:49 PM, "red1" r...@red1.org wrote: On 5/9/11 9:2

Re: [osdcmy] Python sprint

2011-05-10 Terurut Topik red1
Pls count me in for 21st. May i know the location of Inigo? On 4/30/11 11:16 PM, sweemeng ng wrote: Today was chatting with the gang, a.k.a Kagesenshi and cl chow. also kaeru We decided that, we going to have a sprint in Inigo Consulting, date undecided, it is between May and July. I try

Re: [osdcmy] Python sprint

2011-05-10 Terurut Topik red1
On 5/11/11 9:40 AM, sweemeng ng wrote: Please come I wish to know how the java community do it too My interest is that i have setup Fitnesse testing which works with our ADempiere Java code and the next step is to port it onto Jenkins build server, but i guess that takes a few steps and

[osdcmy] Calling Python i mean Mac guru

2011-05-09 Terurut Topik red1
This is probably up Boh's alley. I just upgraded my MacBook to 10.5.8 and the Java 1.6.0 seems to be not JDK. Jeezz.. i hate Steve Jobs, i mean i am now toasted as ADempiere and other stuff needs more JDK than SDK. Any1 knows the way back or out? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this

Re: [osdcmy] Calling Python i mean Mac guru

2011-05-09 Terurut Topik red1
On 5/9/11 9:27 PM, red1 wrote: This is probably up Boh's alley. I just upgraded my MacBook to 10.5.8 and the Java 1.6.0 seems to be not JDK. Jeezz.. i hate Steve Jobs, i mean i am now toasted as ADempiere and other stuff needs more JDK than SDK. Any1 knows the way back or out? solved

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

2011-05-07 Terurut Topik red1
Boh, thanks for the link, which i can see: "Tricubes shares soar on news it will be working with Microsoft" Now that pops the spiritual question - Is that not what we all care about? It is making money legally. With FOSS you cannot make that kind of money. Give it up guys. I mean look at the

Re: [osdcmy] OSDC.my Pitch

2011-05-07 Terurut Topik red1
With due respect i don't see the point in name meaning in helping to get money (but i agree with Eric's earlier branding strategy). AFAIK money respects one and only one rule, How fast can we get our money back?, meaning viability of your business plan, meaning paperwork, paperwork, paperwork.

Re: [osdcmy] RM 50m to Tricubes Bhd to develop 1 Malaysia SecureEmail Server

2011-04-22 Terurut Topik red1
Hmm.. quite some bitching going on and i hope it is not against the gomen. :) I hope i am wrong, but i pitched this idea 1o years ago while CTO in a public listed concern, and i wonder if it floated to Tricubes. The idea was since all citizens have a unique NRID number then a provider can

Re: [osdcmy] Review MOSC2011 First Draf

2011-04-17 Terurut Topik red1
Kenape tidak Bahasa? "Zaman Perubahan" On 4/17/11 8:26 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: quick review english grammar correction Innovating the Change Does not sound right... perhaps it should be Innovating Change ? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group

Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted

2011-04-14 Terurut Topik red1
Actually i just wana spread the message that to get what you want in life all you need is passion. No guru or Allah can help you (take away the satisfaction from you achieving it on your own). FOSS gave me that. Here is how i enjoy teaching others and earn the bragging rights:

Re: [osdcmy] Mintak pandangan Projek OSS

2011-04-09 Terurut Topik red1
Apa matlamat projek hang? On 4/10/11 9:25 AM, darXness darXness wrote: AsSalam... nak mnx idea skit.skrng nie tgh planning 1 projek@ikas.nak gune OSS lam tmpt ak nie.so far planning ikut phase2,nie yg da dpt idea skrng nie, == 1.Research Problem status Pilih oss yang

Re: [osdcmy] Mintak pandangan Projek OSS

2011-04-09 Terurut Topik red1
menambahkan icon. Just my dua sen. On 4/10/11 9:58 AM, darXness darXness wrote: luper lak...nak eliminate windows lam Institut nie.nak start gune OSS sume.sng cite,xnak gune yg license2 berbayar dah.=D 2011/4/10 red1r...@red1.org: Apa matlamat projek hang? On 4/10/11 9:25 AM, darXness

Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted

2011-04-04 Terurut Topik red1
On 4/4/11 9:23 PM, Slaya Chronicles - Geeko Acolyte wrote: I jugak tahan maki...2 tahun kat OSCC. Eric @Eric, what for i take you? you are immune to any words of torment. i cannot beat what you got from where you come from. @Cik Nor Arlina Amirah, Tawaran untuk menjadi seorang

Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted

2011-04-04 Terurut Topik red1
On 4/5/11 1:34 PM, Nor Arlina Amirah Ahmad Ghani wrote: okay tunggu dah grad dan jadi Jedi Master + repeat balek Addmath yang dapat C5 tu then baru I apply back. TQ =) maaf.. web akses di Bangkok ni masalah.. tersekat saya sangka tak terhantar lalu edit dan hantar semula. @Nor, sebenarya

Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified

2011-04-03 Terurut Topik red1
On 4/3/11 4:26 PM, Boh Yap wrote: Raja, snipped Commenting on yr hiring objectives, it is not the technical skills that i look for. it is their pre-disposition to acquire and adapt technical skills.. its not wrong, but don't you/we think it reflects sadly on our training intituitions? We

Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified

2011-04-03 Terurut Topik red1
:04 PM, Boh Yap wrote: hi Red1, On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 4:41 PM, red1r...@red1.org wrote: Boh, it is ok in Malaysia because the man they hire to head MDec is not that technical either. Raja told me he is a salesman. And MOSTI big wigs are left to law abiding beaurocrats. I use to see their job

Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified

2011-04-03 Terurut Topik red1
wanna sama-sama cari makan together. dan mengurangkan beban yang korang kena tanggung. Berat sama dipikul ringan sama dijinjing "Ke Arah Merealisasikan Satu Sumber" Azhar 2011/4/4 Boh Yap bhy...@gmail.com hi Red1, -- To unsubscribe from and detail a

Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified

2011-04-02 Terurut Topik red1
Last year, i did some HR development consulting for some local military equipment crew which was trained by a foreign superpower. Their no.1 requirement: Transfer of know how via log book kept by local counterpart, when learning from expartriate engineer. Their No.1 issue: Few hardly upkeep

Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified

2011-04-02 Terurut Topik red1
btw Boh, how did u know it involved an Exocet? You are on the watchlist now my friend :) Ok back to the log book argument. Why not go back to our own best practice? Show me your code. No, not from your notebook. From SourceForge template or other repository and there we can examine trackers

Re: [osdcmy] LPI Certified and other linux certified

2011-04-02 Terurut Topik red1
' ambition - as a measure of dedication it is not the technical skills that i look for. it is their pre-disposition to acquire and adapt technical skills red1, has some pretty weird criteria, like "carrying the sifu's bag".. hahaha... i would love to have some of

[osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted

2011-04-02 Terurut Topik red1
I have vacancy for a Malaysian based apprentice that has to carry the sifu's bag and be taught the latest in Java martial arts. Requirements: Straight As in SPM / O Levels double maths and Science and English. Passion. Within 5 minutes i will tell you if you make the cut. Areas that you will

Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted

2011-04-02 Terurut Topik red1
Enterprise wrote: :) i'm in for the trial my kelebihan = (tahan maki) kekurangan = (sengkek habis) hahahaha coming to kl 7 and 8 th April expected salary 4310150 indonesian rupiah azhar 2011/4/3 red1 r...@red1.org I have vacancy for a Malaysian based apprentice that has to carry the sifu's

Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted

2011-04-02 Terurut Topik red1
the Qadha and Qadar. He always give me from where i least expected. This is all i can teach my murid. It is not in the Jawoh language. It is in the language of the qalbu. 2011/4/3 red1 r...@red1.org Tahan maki - Please provide factual reference as how bad you been makied before and what you

Re: [osdcmy] Java Apprentice Wanted

2011-04-02 Terurut Topik red1
On 4/3/11 12:29 PM, riZer Enterprise wrote: for me cacian and makian build my strength. so beware i gain power with that. it's just make me fuller in person snipped 2. kalau saya terasa hati baru saya akan beringat so kalau nak nasihat saya (DO NOT) talk nice to me. Bagi saya sakit hati baru

Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

2011-03-20 Terurut Topik red1
Bahasa Melayu mungkin tidak sesuai sebagai bahasa pengantaraan untuk alam ilmiah perkakasan. Tetapi ia amat sesuai sebagai bahasa sastera, cukup cantik apabila dipakai untuk berpantun: Makan garam lebih daripada nasi Jangan sampai rosak semua gigi Jika mahu hidup berdikari Sumbanglah kod

Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

2011-03-20 Terurut Topik red1
US tu memang Syarikat.. nama je negara tetapi buat bisnis tak kira minyak ke, senjata ke, trade agreement ke, software patent ke... nak je cekik leher dunia lain...  ramai sangat NGO tentang sama AS setiap kali ada WTO. On 3/20/11 5:47 PM, Ghodmode wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:17 PM,

Re: [osdcmy] What about closed core?

2011-03-20 Terurut Topik red1
Ghod, It might just catches fire. I reckon modernist terms emerge when opportunists try to redefine something as pure open code just to wear a price tag and get them their next dinner plate. It happened to their health care services, happened to desktop computing, happened to have 1 lawyer to

Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

2011-03-20 Terurut Topik red1
is still low. Even though there are many vacancies... On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Ghodmode ghodm...@ghodmode.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 4:13 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Bahasa Melayu mungkin tidak sesuai sebagai bahasa pengantaraan untuk alam

Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

2011-03-20 Terurut Topik red1
But when it comes to swearing bahasa has a chance: WTF (3), Pundek (2), Kanenabu (4 - hokkien dialect, cantonese is too vulgar) On 3/20/11 10:44 PM, red1 wrote: Its the syallables in Bahasa that are of higher quantity than many other languages i know. For example Hotel in bahasa

Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

2011-03-18 Terurut Topik red1
On 3/17/11 10:51 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: by the way, for ipad users, how do you do a right click ? is it tap and hold ? -- Itu piawaian Epal Mad kot? Dua jari ketuk serentak - Its two fingers simultaneous tap. . -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group

Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

2011-03-18 Terurut Topik red1
Semasa di Thailand, saya perhati kat kedai buku mereka, terdapat banyak majalah terbaru dunia seperti GQ, Penthouse, Linux, Vogue, tetapi satu helai Inggeris pun tak ada. Semua diterjemahkan bulat-bulat ke dalam bahasa Siyeh. Yalah.. mereka tak pernah dijajah. On 3/18/11 7:10 PM, zarul

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-17 Terurut Topik red1
, I do not have it. Raja and Red1 were the two chaps who helped us do up the BRR - Benefit Realisation Report; maybe they have a copy of it. The Govt is a control freak. Anything they do is hak kerajaan. We have suggested to involve the community in building some of the stuff, but then the ones

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-17 Terurut Topik red1
On 3/17/11 9:52 PM, darXness darXness wrote: cite menarik nie..kene join gak sesi teh tarik pasni.:D Free as in Free cerita, not in Free teh tarik .. :D Anyway i very much wanted to attend the gathering organised by our protem bapak Haris Fahil, but i be away (hurrahh!) :(. I will ask

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-17 Terurut Topik red1
I used to say: Work for yourself, not your company, and you be happier. Everyone around you be more better off (including your company, if they only know why). On 3/17/11 10:56 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: that nearly happened to me. quit a 5 figure salary job last month cause was feeling

Re: [osdcmy] Saya pun tak tahu kenapa

2011-03-17 Terurut Topik red1
Kenape roti bakar boleh? Tapi jika terjemah sebiji ke orang putih, akan jadi 'Please can make me bread burn'. Laparlah alamatnya kat nogori orang putih kan. On 3/18/11 9:30 AM, saifuladli ismail wrote: kita tak perlu guna perkataan bakar, kita guna perkataan "salin" nota ke dalam CD. ok sikit

Re: [osdcmy] What about closed core?

2011-03-16 Terurut Topik red1
Hi Ghodmode, I wonder what you refer to is already meant so in GPLv3 as espoused by His Highness RMS. If i remembered my readings correctly, RMS was wary of the mischief doings of Steve Jobs in some apps probably ITunes where it used GNU-linked (hope RMS smiles on me) code which was taken from

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-16 Terurut Topik red1
Raja, That phrase has already been hijacked by the Cina apek: Lu mau mati kah??!!! On 3/17/11 12:14 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: what happened to the phrase 'berani mati' ? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik red1
How i wish Dr. Mahathir did cut them off at the bridge. Before he resigned. On 3/15/11 12:28 PM, zarul shahrin wrote: Of course they are better! They are there working on the next big thing while we are here busy arguing which OS is better or why people don't want to use OSS and of course -

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysian OSS Developer

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik red1
Reaction: I hate you. Now, please continue. On 3/15/11 9:49 PM, Garfield WTF wrote: I believe they mean by the attitude and mindset of Malaysia OSS developers and the community. As we can see now, majority of our developers and community people are fighting each others. Not united at all.

Re: [osdcmy] secret which have to be a secret

2011-03-15 Terurut Topik red1
IMHO if we are debating on govt policies, be they written or unwritten, it is still ok, because we are not creating falsehood nor lies, based on unfounded facts nor conjecture that implicate individuals who are merely govt servants following such policies. Now for govt servants, what about

Re: [osdcmy] Re: FiMOS - For Malaysian, by Malaysian

2011-03-13 Terurut Topik red1
tackle new problems using a tool which is easy to learn? Best Regards, Zarul Shahrin On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 3:40 PM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Raja, fictitous indeed. Windows needs no learning. Give me an example function in excel that my 11 yr old

Re: [osdcmy] Wassup With OSCC ?

2011-03-13 Terurut Topik red1
Don't shoot me, i am just the messenger that told you so. This is called an unofficially written policy by the govt not to support Open Source precisely because it cannot show the numbers they want. Gomen want commercial numbers, not innovation numbers. But i guess we still need the prophets

[osdcmy] Is Open Source taken over by Salesmen?

2011-03-10 Terurut Topik red1
I thought real committers and uploaders rule in Open Source. At least what i read of Linus Torvalds, Eric Raymond and Richard Stallman. It is a long rant, so i leave you a choice: http://red1.org/adempiere/viewtopic.php?f=33t=1156 Salam 1Sumber :) -- To unsubscribe from and detail about

[osdcmy] Open Core is Not Open Source - for example OpenBravo

2011-03-05 Terurut Topik red1
OpenBravo's further ethics in question has been written long time ago here : http://red1empire.blogspot.com/2008/10/openbravo-unethical-use-of-compieres.html red1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011

Re: [osdcmy] Re: Why our Unis turn out such poor quality IT grads. - long rant

2011-03-04 Terurut Topik red1
and passionate people jadikan diorang role model dan diinsidekan mestilah accepted by uni orang orang passionate ni dgan anugerah dean pasal kerja passionate bukan about money yang diorang buat ni...faham tak? hehehehaha tak faham tanya soalan sure di ratedkan A punya. brolinux sidekick red1

Re: [osdcmy] Why our Unis turn out such poor quality IT grads. - long rant

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
On 3/3/11 8:54 AM, Boh Yap wrote: hi all, here's another rant, its directed at our Educational system, but done in a less brutal way than the 'last' nuclear exchange between Red and Rafe ;-) Sabar guys you both got your points, Have a read and pls comment... Critique of MQA Computing

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia still under the IIPA Watch List

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
Ni semua cina petaling street punya pasal. Selagi mereka ada, selagi senantiasa ceplak semua. I call this Freedom. On 3/3/11 5:42 PM, Muhd Syazwan Md Khusaini wrote: Morning guys (it you were at GMT +1). Becauseof suffering cold weather here at Liege, Belgium..I've borrowed my friend

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia still under the IIPA Watch List

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
by charging exorbitant prices for their content, and pay artists a pittance! They are nothing more than gangsters who cry foul, when their earnings are impacted! And are they the same party also supporting Software Patents? And these ppl oppose FOSS as well.. Red1, maybe you can get the SW pirates to make

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia still under the IIPA Watch List

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
(there is hope). On 3/4/11 8:00 AM, sweemeng ng wrote: It is not pirating if it is not on cd or bit torrent On Mar 4, 2011 6:06 AM, "red1" r...@red1.org wrote: On 3/4/11 1:44 AM, Boh Yap wrote: hi No big deal, on the one hand, the the major sponsors of this program is the MPAA, the

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia still under the IIPA Watch List

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
, Ahmed Noor Kader Mustajir Md Eusoff wrote: they didn't aware with the term Open Source, someone should wake them about it On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:30 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: ok i got a question. What if Petaling Street put Linux on CDs? Is that pirating? I remembered some time ago

[osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
http://www.opensource.org/node/535 - Malaysian Government has reached 97% OSS Adoption and saves http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2010/07/05/open-source-saves-malaysian-government-rm188-million RM188! Yep we got the numbers! Nape? Tak caya ke? Tak leh bawa bank kah? Kene tunjuk cash jugak

Re: [osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
? On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, red1r...@red1.org wrote: http://www.opensource.org/node/535 - Malaysian Government has reached 97% OSS Adoption and saves http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2010/07/05/open-source-saves-malaysian-government-rm188-million RM188! Yep we got the numbers! Nape

Re: [osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
Sorry.. i made a typo below its RM188m (tertinggal pula figure M, kekekee) Azrul, Excuse Moi? What u mean? Vous Lompate Marine? On 3/4/11 9:03 AM, Azrul MADISA wrote: Wow! I'm going to championproprietarysoftware la from now on On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, red1 r...@red1

Re: [osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
. Its action time. Every one that write or suggestion in this list already doing things. SO What you are doing? Can I have your schedule to sync with mine? Can I have your plan to sync with mine? On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 9:00 AM, red1r...@red1.org wrote: I want the community to think

Re: [osdcmy] Malaysia still under the IIPA Watch List

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
On 3/4/11 9:55 AM, Ghodmode wrote: By the way... I've added Jalan Petaling to my list of must visit places if I ever get to spend some time in KL :D -- Ah, another newbie on PS. Allow me to humbly advise you to be careful and follow these basic rules: 1. Do not bargain unless you already got

Re: [osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
kita bangun hendaklah kita tanya what fos contribution that we will do today? What are we doing (FOSS point of view) for the comunity today? Apakah yang akan kita sumbangkan kepada komuniti hari ini? svai deutschmark brolinux *memang nak tumpang glamour tuan red1 no better yet let me be your

Re: [osdcmy] M'sian Govt Show Them the Numbers

2011-03-03 Terurut Topik red1
aiya kod pun tada tau ka? ... tak berapa tau tak pe... itu passion fruit mesti ada. On 3/4/11 3:37 PM, riZer Enterprise wrote: nama dia kedo (kay-dough) dia baik keta baapak dan buat kopi tiap2 pagi dalam citer tu. maaf saya tak faam apa tuan red1 maksudkan dgn "show me your codes&

Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

2011-03-01 Terurut Topik red1
Ini serupa pergi bank minta loan. Bila disuruh tunjuk numbers, apa numbers? Jika kita ada numbers, buat apa pergi bank??? Kerana tada wang lah kita pegi bank buat pinjaman. Tetapi bank selalunya hanya bantu mereka yang sudah tidak perlu bantuan. Ini bukan rahsia, tetapi masih rahsia bagi mereka

Re: [osdcmy] Java is big! What is MDeC doing about it?

2011-02-28 Terurut Topik red1
What i learnt Swee Meng, is that govt has to get out our way, so that we can thrive. The problem is that whenever we want to do some shouting or kicking ass, they join from the other opposing side, with tons of borangs and dasar to actually complicate matters. This is not my theory. It is many

Re: [osdcmy] Re: My1OS sapu duit gomen [Distro Workshop Again]

2011-02-28 Terurut Topik red1
ITU KIASU NAMANYA... (caps key stuck) :) On 2/28/11 8:56 PM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: aduh tajam sungguh ayat tuan hamba ;p On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 6:55 PM, wari...@gmail.com wari...@gmail.com wrote: YNWA = You Never Win Anything -- To unsubscribe from and

Re: [osdcmy] WHY MDEC BEING A TARGET OF YOUR OWN FAILURE?

2011-02-28 Terurut Topik red1
organization outside the country that are doing this? Am I so wrong that I pointed out the necessary? The rest and test is totally up to you, hope you learn from it and benefits from it too. Salam.. Regards //Rafe Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "re

Re: [osdcmy] Learning from Tahrir Square

2011-02-27 Terurut Topik red1
the PM is not even aware of us nor aware that MDec has failed in its job. It is not MDec's role to tell its boss if it fails. It is the job of the NGOs. Get it? Sexists included. :) Yours Sincerely, Red1 On 2/27/11 4:59 PM, simpleLinux wrote: good1... +1! for this I agreed.. ;p rather than

Re: [osdcmy] Re: My1OS sapu duit gomen

2011-02-27 Terurut Topik red1
, riZer Enterpriserizerenterpr...@gmail.com wrote: geng putera 2011/2/27 Haris bin Aliha...@qedx.com: Tradisi bisnes bumiputra Malaya? //ha...@qedx.com On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:05 AM, red1r...@red1.org wrote: I just got

[osdcmy] Learning from Tahrir Square

2011-02-25 Terurut Topik red1
for the formation of an adhoc committee (non-registered, to hell with ROS) for MOSS to put political pressure on the govt to change the unwritten policy of supporting proprietary software and paying lip service to FOSS all this while. red1 -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group

Re: [osdcmy] Open Source Education Council (OEC) - First Meeting

2011-02-24 Terurut Topik red1
, Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: Team, OEC will have first meeting in March. Need volunteers for this and committed council members on behalf of OSS community. Eric, Ejat, Wariola, Fazli, Black, Red1, Raja and others community leaders. we need to have teh tarik session. Friends of OSS in industry is pushing

[osdcmy] My1OS sapu duit gomen

2011-02-24 Terurut Topik red1
I just got this sms from a friend who knows nothing about IT, Apa tu MY1OS?.. Budak2 sapu dana kerajaan saja. This is not my opinion. I got the sms to prove for such an opinion from a member of the public. I hate to be in controversy but what to do. We are surrounded by it. I replied to him

Re: [osdcmy-public] Re: PHP Malaysia Meetup 2011 : Framework Shootout

2011-02-17 Terurut Topik red1
On 2/18/11 8:47 AM, Raja Iskandar Shah wrote: i will be attending. where Raja goes, i go too :) . -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information MOSC2011 http://fb.me/mosc2011 MOSC Survey 2011 Awareness Of OSS Certification

Re: [osdcmy-public] build your own Linux or choose form one of the hundreds out there.....

2011-02-15 Terurut Topik red1
Hi Comrade Boh! Long time no revolution i mean teh tarik. ;) Yes, indeed it is all natural for us to be creative and having our very own name on it. There are 2 aspects here: 1. To be creative, you need to make mistakes, think out of the box and probably sounded bitchy. 2. To be with the FOSS,

[osdcmy-public] Sharing FOSS experience

2011-02-07 Terurut Topik red1
I know Azrul who is quite a Java and FOSS advocate wrote about such stuff. Ok, stopping the intro here - I just wanted people to read mine http://red1empire.blogspot.com/ :) Just recanting my experience with the NSIS _MicroSoft_ installer. Next i be blogging about my success with Fitnesse

Re: [osdcmy-public] Salam 1 Malaysia dan Salam Perpaduan. Mirroring Request

2011-01-23 Terurut Topik red1
 Mungkin orang terlupa kat teman kot? Hambo sangka diskspace tu murah. tak baik.. buang-buang file2 orang. On 1/23/11 10:16 PM, simpleLinux wrote: @Imran - Mirror yg tidak lagi di Mirrorkan. http://mirror.upm.edu.my/simplelinux/ diorang agaknya dah buang file2 simpleLinux sebab tak mampu

Re: [osdcmy-public] My1OS Need Developer Programmer

2011-01-20 Terurut Topik red1
Cuti? On 1/19/11 4:48 PM, Mohd Hidzuan wrote: Gaji? -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my-mailing-list-information Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

Re: [osdcmy-public] My1OS Need Developer Programmer

2011-01-20 Terurut Topik red1
67C2 1C07 FDEC 09ED DE58  1ED8 FF26 6105 142D CBE2 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:59 AM, red1 r...@red1.org wrote: Cuti? On 1/19/11 4:48 PM, Mohd Hidzuan wrote: Gaji?   -- To unsubscribe from and detail about this group http://portal.mosc.my/osdc-my

[osdcmy-public] Fitness Slim cukup merbahaya

2011-01-13 Terurut Topik red1
Yakni kepada perisian tertutup kerana kini Sumber Terbuka cukup mudah dan pantas diuji secara 'programmatically' tanpa 'user action' dan secara al alami tanpa kepakaran. Hanyeh pandai wiki je. Akan payah untuk sumber tertutup menyaingi kerana mereka tidak pasti teruji oleh pihak luar semasa

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