[ozmidwifery] Informing Tracy

2004-05-31 Thread Jo & Dean Bainbridge
I was wondering how effective it would be if we all wrote to Tracy Curo (news reader in Melbourne ...which station Melbournites?) and bombard this journalist with all the research that shows that cs does not save pelvic floors.  Perhaps a thousand wonderful birth stories of how amazing and f

Re: [ozmidwifery] 60 minutes.

2004-05-30 Thread Jo & Dean Bainbridge
Yes BREATHE Marilyn! lol jo - Original Message - From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:16 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 60 minutes. > Excellent footage Justine. I was disappointed with the slant of the whole > segment though. We

[ozmidwifery] Cs story

2004-05-30 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
  I am a mum whose first birth was by caesarean, the next birth with medical interventions (forceps etc), and then a natural vaginal birth.  Pretty much done it all!  It really concerns me when people like Tracy Curio can make statements like a vaginal birth is not a life changing essential

Re: [ozmidwifery] Good - Bad parenting.

2004-05-18 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Despite the fact that I took my 18 month old to a GP and had 2 locums come to my house in a matter of three days I ended up taking bub to hospital and was told by a doctor that he "couldn't believe a mother would let her son be so sick and do nothing" he then went out and asked a the group o

Re: [ozmidwifery] more baby stuff

2004-05-18 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
es and abandoned animals. Maybe they were secure enough not to take me seriously-I dont know where it came from but I was glad they werent littlies. Pinky - Original Message - From: Jo & Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, Ma

Re: [ozmidwifery] more baby stuff

2004-05-18 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I have been reading this thread with great interest and biting at the bit to say something.  I was talking to a first time mum the other day and she said something like "I don't know how you can have three boys and still function!  Aren't you beside yourself all the time?"...first I thought

Re: [ozmidwifery] urgent, addresses

2004-05-12 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I have forwarded on the email to Roz Donnellan-Fernandez for you. cheers Jo - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To: list Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] urgent, addresses Jo Fisher in Queensland is urgently seeking the conta

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Community Midwife - 12-month contract position

2004-05-01 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
  - Original Message - From: Ben and Cheryl To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@connect.com.au Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:01 PM Subject: Fw: Community Midwife - 12-month contract position   Cheryl GlenieM.Ed., B.Ed., Dip.T.  - Original Message - From: Moody, Lise (DHS) To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] NICE guidlines for C Section published

2004-04-28 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
"For obvious reasons one cannot > tell a group of pregnant women that they must give birth vaginally, while > other women - at random - are told they must have a caesarean." SEND IT ON TO CROWTHER AND THE ACTOBAC CREW - Original Message - From: "Larry & Megan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

[ozmidwifery] South Australian Celebration

2004-04-19 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I am sorry for not sending this earlier, it just slipped my mind that there are some 'lurkers' from SA - YOU know who you are!! - and thought it was only right for me to blatantly advertise our National Day of Action MC event on ozmid! cheers  Jo South Australia Maternity Coalition and CARE

Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC

2004-04-17 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
They have started using misoprostol here in Australia; W&CH SA were doing studies in it using women but assured me they would not be using VBAC women as VBAC is a contra-indication for using the drug.  These were the same people who were/are doing the ACTOBAC trial.  The thing that worries

Re: [ozmidwifery] ER

2004-04-17 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Bit of an ER fan I must admit!  I remember the cs disaster episode which really up set me.  I also remember when Dr Corday (English doctor) was pregnant and doing yoga'ish type exercises at home.  There was no visuals of her giving birth but her arguing to be able to walk instead of being pu

Re: [ozmidwifery] SE Qld - Gemma-Rose Turnbull Photography project

2004-04-15 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
GOOD luck to Gemma! I wish her all the light and love in the world if she can achieve some changes thru such a wonderful medium!!! I just wished I knew someone she could use, but I am sure there will be many candidates!!! Jo - Original Message - From: "Jodie Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To

[ozmidwifery] beautiful birth and positions

2004-04-15 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Hey! I was touched by the clip as well but the gnawing thought of "why is she reclining on a bed??!!" kept creeping in It reminded me of the video of the 'natural birth' I was shown during an ante natal class with a woman sitting up in bed pushing bubby out and the midwife actually said to us

Re: [ozmidwifery] thanks everyone

2004-04-14 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
otto? Educate, > motivate and agitate? What ever it is you're doing, keep doin' it!! > > In consumer sisterhood, > Jodie > > > > > On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:08 pm, Jo & Dean Bainbridge wrote: > > I would just like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for

[ozmidwifery] thanks everyone

2004-04-14 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I would just like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for their replies and thoughts on the topics that I have suggested and those that have spawned off of topics.   The thing that I love most about oz mid is the discussions  offer food for thought.    As a consumer I am in a positio

[ozmidwifery] OP stats...interesting

2004-04-13 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
This was from Midwifery Today and thought it might be of interest.  For me OP was always a concern as my first bub was OP and a cs, the next OP and a nasty instrumental VBAC and the third was OA and a totally BEAUTIFUL birth with very little fear/pain and time in labour.  It was fear of OP

[ozmidwifery] VBAC constraints

2004-04-13 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
From Midwifery Today:   labor longer than 12 hours OP 49.7% Persistent fetal occiput posterior position: obstetric outcomes. Obstet Gynecol 2003; 101:917   Interestingly enough, in reading VBAC management terms, one of the guidelines is that a partogram should be

Re: [ozmidwifery] midwife is a midwife...?

2004-04-09 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
, Jo & Dean Bainbridge wrote: I read this today and wanted to chat about this without fear of being lynched! lol And given a birth I attended last week with the worst hospital midwife I have ever met who was SO much less good than the obstetrician I am totally off the idea

Re: [ozmidwifery] criticing midwives

2004-04-09 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
From: Jo & Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] criticing midwives It was not my intention to criticise any midwife who works in high risk or even general labour ward Sadie. I am s

[ozmidwifery] criticing midwives

2004-04-08 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
It was not my intention to criticise any midwife who works in high risk or even general labour ward Sadie. I am sorry that was interpreted that way. The difference is between a midwife that truly CARES for women and those who do not/ can not, not the location they work.   I would say that th

[ozmidwifery] midwife is a midwife...?

2004-04-08 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I read this today and wanted to chat about this without fear of being lynched! lol   And given a birth I attended last week with the worst hospital midwife I have ever met who was SO much less good than the obstetrician I am totally off the idea of a midwife is a midwife   I am totally of

Re: [ozmidwifery] testing

2004-03-31 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I got it off oz mid Jan cheers Jo Bainbridge - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:15 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] testing so did oz mid get it?jan - Original Message - From:

[ozmidwifery] insurnace and obstetrics

2004-03-27 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Hi everyone, hope you are all well.  In regards to the $1100 being charged for 5 minutes by a doc...   I know that there has been research done into intervention rate differences in the public v's private sectors but has anything else been addressed?   What I mean by that is: we know that th

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: [ausbirthingcommunity] GP consumer consultation sessions

2004-03-27 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
those with obstetric problems.Good luck with your submission. The more consumers push to have their needs met through a holistic maternity care program the more midwives will begin to listen and respond.RegardsJanOn Friday, March 26, 2004, at 01:50 PM, Jo & Dean Bainbridge wrote:

[ozmidwifery] Fw: [ausbirthingcommunity] GP consumer consultation sessions

2004-03-25 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
could this be circulated to all those interested. cheers Jo - Original Message - From: Carolyn Donaghey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:30 PM Subject: [ausbirthingcommunity] GP consumer consultation sessions I will be attending a consume

Re: [ozmidwifery] interesting

2004-03-23 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Hi Katherine, welcome to the world of birth!  CARES SA is also supportive and proactive in promoting the benefits of mid students to pregnant women. We cater to women who either have to have a cs, want one or those who wish to have a vbac.  Please contact me if you would like to know more or

[ozmidwifery] Vanessa Owens

2004-03-22 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
can anyone give me a contact email for Vanessa Owens please?  I need to contact her ASAP. cheers Jo Bainbridge

[ozmidwifery] one stort full of holes!!

2004-03-12 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Not sure what to make of this... Makes you wonder what is missing from this report... if the mother thought she was going to be given a classical incision then perhaps it shows that she was not given any form of information no reasons as to why the babies needed to be born by cs.  Why wou

[ozmidwifery] PND Inquiry

2004-03-07 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Everyone should note: That this is an inquiry for SOUTH AUSTRALIA ONLY. The contact for the committee is: Robyn Schutte Secretary, Social Development Committee ph:   8237 9416 email:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]Written submissions are due 7 May. Spoken submissions may also be made by arrangement

Re: [ozmidwifery] Our co-sleeping experience

2004-03-05 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Dear Helen, I would love to talk to you more about a 6 yo still sleeping with us (as well as our 4 yo and 2 yo 4 cats - and thank goodness the dog cant get up as well!!) feel free to email me off list at the below email. cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL P

[ozmidwifery] PND inquiry icluding birth experiences (long)

2004-03-05 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
 FRANCES BEDFORD MP JPMember for Florey436 Montague RoadMODBURY NORTH SA 5092Tel: 08 8263 2666    Fax: 08 8263 2166  “ Inquiry into Post Natal Depression\TOC\2\BOWLING FOR COLUMBINE”   Ms BEDFORD (Florey): I move: That this house calls on the Social Development Committee

Re: [ozmidwifery] Term Breech Trial

2003-09-14 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Title: Message Prof Marc Keirse (editor of Effective Care) has done quite allot of very critical critiquing of the TBT.  He has written a number of things about the failures of the TBT.  I don't know when they have been published but know that they have been published in the Birth Perinatal

[ozmidwifery] see you guys!

2003-09-02 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
well, after all these years of putting the cat amongst the pigeons and jumping up on my soap box I am calling it a day!  I bet most of you who know me never thought the day would come (and know that many others have been praying for it to come LOL).   I am still committed to CARES SA but look

[ozmidwifery] questions regarding cs states.

2003-08-25 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I have someone who is after some cs and vbac stats for the Nation...I have really only got access to SA's and so would be really appreciative if someone could lend a hand. the required info is listed belowthe bits in blue are the bits she needs help on.   Australia’s Caesarean rate is now

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: 50% of list of good websites to visit

2003-08-16 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Birthrites is now www.birthrites.org  not the edsite anymore cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List Se

[ozmidwifery] internet addresses

2003-08-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Noticed that Birthrites WA has been listed on the information list floating around... just thought you should know their correct address is www.birthrites.org  not the edsite address anymore. cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918b

[ozmidwifery] not midwifery topic

2003-07-30 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Hi all, I was just wondering if anyone would like to explore an option this Christmas... Dean and I are going to Bendigo for Christmas and I was just wondering if anyone would like to 'house swap' over the Christmas period?  We have a four bedroom house in the Adelaide hills which is a 20 mi

Re: [ozmidwifery] OP & ARM

2003-07-30 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Anne, I have looked at this topic in the past and am trying to find the studies I used.  There was one thread that was common that an AROM in a OP labour caused fetal distress as the cushioning effect of membranes which allowed baby to rotate was removed and put pressure on bubs head and ma

[ozmidwifery] Logo: National Caesarean Awareness Day 2003

2003-07-30 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
From: Jo & Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] National Caesarean Awareness Day 2003 WONDERFUL Denise!!!   So glad that you are willing to do this.  It is all tho

Re: [ozmidwifery] National Caesarean Awareness Day 2003

2003-07-29 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
need!   Suggest the Friday! Let me know if you are interested!    it will be held in Waterloo Sydney! Denise LoveBirth Central - 02 9399 5854LifeOptions - The Centre for LifeLong LearningDoula Expresswww.e-lifeoptions.com - Original Message - From: Jo &a

Re: [ozmidwifery] NCT contacts

2003-07-28 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Thank you Debbie for this contact details.  I will be emailing her today sometime. As for the bit about the discussion of a RCT of vbac and cs at the  Cochrane Collaboration: I would put my money on it being the ACTOBAC trial as Prof Marc Keirse (co-author of Effective Care) was there at the

[ozmidwifery] NCT contacts

2003-07-28 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Is there anyone who can help me contact someone from the NCT in the UK who might know how the interparlimentary committee into maternity services was set up.  I have looked on their web site and there is only contact details for snail mail and telephone. Dean is happy for me to dedicate more

[ozmidwifery] impact of uterine trauma and future births

2003-07-27 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
okay, as today I am incapacitated due to a badly pulled back muscle, when I get the kids ingrossed in playing Thomas I am going to sort through and find the articles of interest on outcomes of uterine rupture and links to uterine trauma (other than previous cs).  I will post what I find for

Re: [ozmidwifery] curette and miscarriage

2003-07-27 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Women should be made aware of the risks of 'nicking' the uterus during a curette and the impact that can have on future births. One of the other main causes of uterine rupture during labour is a uterus that has been damaged in the past; OTHER than a cs. Out of interestdoes the system treat a

[ozmidwifery] National Caesarean Awareness Day 2003

2003-07-27 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Is there anyone interested in doing anything for the National Caesarean Awareness Day this year?  As always, it can be as low key as getting together with mothers you have birthed with or holding a special talk at your place of employment about vbac or cs.  Or you can organise a full on conf

[ozmidwifery] increased costs for women

2003-06-22 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
"women will have to pay and are already paying between $100 to $500 per pregnancy and will get higher!!"   I know many women who are finding they are having to pay a higher gap with private insurance each baby they have.  If there is MORE increases to costs, coupled with the continued cost of

Re: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?

2003-06-18 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Actually! Come to think of it, to avoid twilight sleep was one of the reasons why my g.mother birthed all of her children at home.  Her other reasons included not wanting anyone from the hospital to steal her babies, and the other was as she said "it was during the war love, in London, and ev

Re: [ozmidwifery] twilight delivery - or twilight baby?

2003-06-18 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
USA feminists at the  time actually campaigned for its use   I find the feminist stance on child birth to be really interesting - as I can not understand why they advocate the rights of women to subject themselves to major surgery to avoid the horrors of labour??  I say 'horrors' as this wa

Re: [ozmidwifery] OT: spam

2003-06-17 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I know it is not a laughing matter but Nikki you had me in stitches  Glad I am not the only one! cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: Nikki Macfarl

Re: [ozmidwifery] Is this normal Hypnobirthing Philosophy?

2003-06-15 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I know that a gentleman called Leigh Read (the son of Dick Read who wrote "Natural Childbirth" on the fear = pain theory) is going to or already started a birth workshop based on his fathers theory.  He has a very idealistic view that childbirth should not be painful.  He is doing his PHD on

[ozmidwifery] interesting

2003-06-11 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
thought you might be interested in this... A Native American Community With a 7% Cesarean Delivery Rate: Does Case Mix, Ethnicity, or Labor Management Explain the Low Rate? Cesarean delivery rates vary widely across populations. Studying communities with low rates may identify practices tha

Re: [ozmidwifery] chicken pox

2003-06-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
A friend of mine suffered a severe case of CP when she found out she was 6 weeks pregnant.  Great timing!  Her baby was not effected and she did not do anything but ride the pox out.  The poor thing suffered really badly having pox sores all through her hair, over her face arms legs torso an

[ozmidwifery] KYM VBAC

2003-05-31 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
ent to chat to me > as they need, but they also need to meet the other midwives of the team too. > I hope this helps Jo. If you would like to know more just let me know. > kathy > - Original Message - > From: "Jo & Dean Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMA

[ozmidwifery] Reply to Kathy

2003-05-30 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
d a 2nd degree tear this time. > Perineal massage, a mirror and hot packs on the perinuem when pushing can be > helpful. What models of midwifery care are available to this woman? Know > your Midwife or Birth Centre that support VBAC women. If not you could > suggest an independent mid

[ozmidwifery] vaginal wall tearing

2003-05-29 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I know there has been discussion in the past about this but I am in a hurry to get some information for a woman whom had a positive vaginal birth that turned ugly when she "tore badly inside and out" (in quotes because that is what she said and I have no further knowledge of what sort of tea

Re: [ozmidwifery] C.section education to do or not to do?

2003-04-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I would put a $500 bet that his name is David... Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 05,

[ozmidwifery] Lynn Staff

2003-04-03 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
could you email me off list Lynn? cheers Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: "Lynne Staff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Lynne Staff (Mayne)" <[EMAIL

Re: [ozmidwifery] C.section education to do or not to do?

2003-04-03 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Marilyn says: want breastfeeding to succeed so that their bodies haven't totally failed them how many times have I heard this said too!!! The controversy lies (in many places but in this one quite prevalently) the mind set for a great number of women is that they don't need to listen/learn about C

Re: [ozmidwifery] nappy rash

2003-04-03 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
aloe vera? Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: "Cheryl LHK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:46 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] nap

Re: [ozmidwifery] C.section education to do or not to do?

2003-04-02 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Some very interesting threads have come from my posting and I would like to make some comments about them: So many times when I speak to women through CARES they say they didn't read the cs bit or didn't listen during the classes cause "it is not going to happen to me". This causes a great persona

[ozmidwifery] midwifery toady

2003-04-01 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I read this in the latest Midwifery Toady email  newsletter.  Thought some of the B Midders might want to respond. I would like to hear from someone in Australia who knows about the bachelor of midwifery course or is doing it. I would like to know more about it and what is involved. — Lorel

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: Safety Warning......

2003-03-30 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
urban myth that has been around about 5 years Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: J Stewart To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; ozmid ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Rebe

[ozmidwifery] repeat cs candidates

2003-03-29 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I come across a number of women whom have had more than one cs and when I talk to them about the risks of repeat cs, the ones who don't go off mad at me for bringing it up, say that their concerns are for the babies safety only. I find this incredible that they firmly believe that a cs is safer fo

Re: [ozmidwifery] emotional reactions to cs

2003-03-21 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
"evidence of the effects of 'supportive listening' such as debriefing (women of their labour and birth experience) in preventing PND indicates that it is likely to be of no benefit."   Sadly most women seem to have absorbed the ethos to tough it out, not make a fuss, do whatever has to be do

[ozmidwifery] interesting journal

2003-03-20 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
In my search for emotional effects of cs, I have found an interesting journal called the "Journal of Psychosomatic Obstetrics and gynaecology". Topics and study titles include:   Contents of childbirth-related fear among couples wishing the partner's presence at delivery   Oxytocin, prolactin

[ozmidwifery] emotional reactions to cs

2003-03-20 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Does anyone have any ideas on studies that have looked at methods to decrease chances of adverse psychological reactions to cs in the immediate post natal period? Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love...

[ozmidwifery] possible silly question!

2003-03-20 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
is there a difference between post natal and post partum?  If there is a difference, would it be the immediate time after birth being post partum and post natal being the extended period after birth??  Or is simply a different term for the same thing??  thank you in advance from a sleep dep

Re: [ozmidwifery] pelvic exams

2003-03-17 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
How do midwives learn how to preform pelvic exams? Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: Carole Claxton To: CMOB Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:48 PM

[ozmidwifery] 'Allowing' to push

2003-03-15 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Mary said:As for "allowing"  What does that mean?  The woman will push when she has to and no amount of "not allowing" will stop her.    The major concern is for those mothers who are told to push when they don't need to.  There really is no way a woman can be told not to push; but the dama

Re: [ozmidwifery] research @ uni

2003-03-15 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Jen, I am not sure how helpful this is, but I personally think that asking this question is valid and would cause a few to stop and think.  It would certainly go some way to bringing it home that allowing a mother to go by what her body is telling her rather than when the clock or the care

[ozmidwifery] interesting articles?

2003-03-12 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
here are some interesting articles from the latest Medscape list... my favorite is the second one...wonder what defines a vaginal delivery??  Forceps, epis, lack of pelvic floor exercising before and after?  hope they are interesting reading and perhaps generate some conversation. cheers

Re: [ozmidwifery] Women's prisons

2003-03-12 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
check out Sheila Kitzingers site as she is very involved with birthing women within the prison system Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy To:

Re: [ozmidwifery] request for help

2003-03-06 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Alphia, would you like some cs and vbac mums? If so I can link you up with some with a range of experiences. How old are bubs meant to be? Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message

[ozmidwifery] vbac friendly

2003-03-02 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Can anyone contact me if you are aware of any vbac friendly models of care that are in place anywhere in Australia currently?  I am after any KYM vbac; case loading vbac; high education levels for staff and or women 9 clinics and education classes specific to vbac) and so on.  I really need

Re: [ozmidwifery] breech presentation - need help!

2003-02-11 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Tania could you give me a call as we have had two vbacs who have been through and ecv and gone on to have a vbac.  they might be able to at least offer some support for this woman.  We have some names of obs who have supported women with prev. lscs  here in Adelaide  Jo Bainbridgefounding me

Re: [ozmidwifery] FW: FW: : CASE STUDY

2003-02-11 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
that is naughty! Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: Julie Clarke To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:45 AM Subject: [ozm

[ozmidwifery] rash

2003-02-11 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Title: URGENT Advice Required Can anyone tell me if a rash like Justine described is common with birthing women?  I had a HORRIBLE rash just like Justine described and at first they put it down to me being allergic to the pain killers they gave me after the cs and then I was told it is a comm

[ozmidwifery] pregnancy outcomes

2003-02-09 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
does anyone have the pregnancy outcomes for SA for 2001?  If so can you contact me asap?  If you have the 2000 results I would still be interested. cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love...

[ozmidwifery] need help

2003-02-08 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
can anyone tell me the correct title or even the web address of (what I was lead to believe) the Women's Hospital Group in Australia?  I have tried a google search on WHG Aust etc searched the W&CH web site and can find no listing.  I must have the wrong title but don't know what it could be

[ozmidwifery] where to send the terrorist pack

2003-02-06 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I am sending mine straight to Downers office in Bridgewater!!! Might see if I can get photocopying done at the same time just to be a bitch Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message

[ozmidwifery] att Tina

2003-02-05 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I am after Tina Pettigrew, could you please email me off list? cheers Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love...

[ozmidwifery] sounds like a wonderful book!

2003-02-05 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
What was it like to be a midwife in the 18th century? Read Mother and Child Were Saved, The Memoirs (1693-1740), of Frisian Midwife Catharina Schrader, and find out. Hurry! Only a limited number of copies are available.   http://www.midwiferytoday.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_C

Re: [ozmidwifery] Aussie Poll on war

2003-02-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Are you listening John??? No because the sound of financial benefits (like the US saying "of course we will buy your wheat! BULLS&T) will always ring louder!!!  I have heard that the Lord Mayor of Brisbane is pleading with his constitutes to return the "How to Spot a Terrorist" $15, 000, 00

[ozmidwifery] Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long)

2003-02-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Title: Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long) Thank you Gail for your words of support. I can not stress hard enough though how I don't want this to go to the media YET!    I think the media is a tool that we can use but as a last resort: for e.g. if the trial goes

Re: [ozmidwifery] VBAC book

2003-02-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
check out the CARES SA suggested reading list: www.cares-sa.org.au Carolyn has made some comments about the books that we recommend highly. cheers Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA www.cares-sa.org.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Mes

[ozmidwifery] ACTOBAC trial

2003-02-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Yes Julie this has been sent to Jackie and she and I are working with a number of others to get things happening (or not happening as the case may be).  I know the press is a mighty tool but don't feel it is appropriate YET.  I am just very cautious about how the press can manipulate.  All w

Re: [ozmidwifery] LSCS attrocity

2003-02-04 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Hey Marijke, please drop by and get the info I have on ACTOBAC copied.  26 Elizabeth st Nairne (off Woodside Rd) There is a CARES meeting next week Wed; at my house you are welcome to attend.  I am actually coming into the MtB hospital this week to put up a poster; will you be there tomorrow

Re: [ozmidwifery] I am back! Did ya miss me?

2003-02-03 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
me have the rest of this info. It's beginning to sink in that we're not living in an age of enlightenment at all. Screaming, Aviva   - Original Message - From: Jo & Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:18 PM Subject

Re: [ozmidwifery] Update on Reuben

2003-02-03 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Go on Carolyn, tell 'em about the band aids you still have!  ha ha Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: Carolyn Donaghey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon

[ozmidwifery] I am back! Did ya miss me?

2003-02-03 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Hi everyone, I am back with a newly polished soap box and a major thing to be yelling about! I am going to jump straight into it with the stress that I am not going to stay on the list for long (a few weeks perhaps) so you may have to contact me off list for further details. Okay, everyone

[ozmidwifery] taking time off also

2002-12-03 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Many of you will give a huge sigh of relief to know that I am officially getting off the soap box for a while to enjoy the chaos which is the rest of my life I am sure that the mountain of ironing that seems to get bigger each week is now a large enough formation to constitute it self as

Re: [ozmidwifery] pregnancy mag

2002-12-01 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Pinky, I know it is saying the obvious to US but a suggestion I have to offer which is something that I have noticed in an alarmingly fashion is the belief that to avoid the 'horrors' of child birth women can opt for major abdominal surgery (cs).  What needs to be yelled from the roof tops i

Fw: [ozmidwifery] Pelvic u/s to determine pelvic size andbirthing ability???

2002-11-30 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: "Jackie Mawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jo & Dean Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "rem & m

[ozmidwifery] childcare in hospitals

2002-11-28 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Judy said: . I am not sure where the administrators learn their job but they do not seem to see that as a useful tool to staff the institutions.   It is because the admins are probably men!  Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, fa

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sheila Kitzinger in Australia

2002-11-25 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
I know this has nothing to do with midwifery and I now that I was one of the ones who was getting frustrated with the course changes of conversation, but here in SA we miss out on heaps of things that the eastern states always getlike the STING concert last year, eurythmics the year before that

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re: [Children Present at Births)

2002-11-24 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Likened it to having to concentrate when driving the car and looking for a carpark, can't talk much then either Oh Megan! Does that mean you are one of 'those' car park seekers who take the challenge to find the perfect park very seriously!!! Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA email: [EMAIL P

Re: [ozmidwifery] Trial at the Women's and children's in Adelaide?

2002-11-23 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Just give the W&CH a call and ask for the clinical trials department and ask who ever answers the phone. They should be able to tell you more. Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: "To

[ozmidwifery] RE woman suing over big baby

2002-11-23 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
are women not being told about the pelvic floor exercises these days?  I have had many women say that they want a cs to avoid stress incont.  It has been shown that it is pregnancy not mode of birth that impacts the peri muscles (unless being butchered with a pre-emptive episiotomy).   At w

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Woman sues over big baby (news.com.au report)

2002-11-23 Thread Jo &amp; Dean Bainbridge
Title: FW: Woman sues over big baby (news.com.au report)   Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: Jackie Mawson To: Birthrites People. Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 11:27 AM Sub

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