I was wondering how effective it would be if we all
wrote to Tracy Curo (news reader in Melbourne ...which station Melbournites?)
and bombard this journalist with all the research that shows that cs does not
save pelvic floors. Perhaps a thousand wonderful birth stories of how
amazing and f
Yes BREATHE Marilyn! lol
jo
- Original Message -
From: "Marilyn Kleidon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] 60 minutes.
> Excellent footage Justine. I was disappointed with the slant of the whole
> segment though. We
I am a mum whose first birth was by caesarean,
the next birth with medical interventions (forceps etc), and then a natural
vaginal birth. Pretty much done it all! It really concerns me when
people like Tracy Curio can make statements like a vaginal birth is not a life
changing essential
Despite the fact that I took my 18 month old to a
GP and had 2 locums come to my house in a matter of three days I ended up taking
bub to hospital and was told by a doctor that he "couldn't believe a mother
would let her son be so sick and do nothing" he then went out and asked a the
group o
es and abandoned animals. Maybe they were secure enough not to
take me seriously-I dont know where it came from but I was glad they werent
littlies.
Pinky
- Original Message -
From:
Jo
& Dean Bainbridge
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, Ma
I have been reading this thread with great interest
and biting at the bit to say something. I was talking to a first time mum
the other day and she said something like "I don't know how you can have three
boys and still function! Aren't you beside yourself all the time?"...first
I thought
I have forwarded on the email to Roz
Donnellan-Fernandez for you.
cheers Jo
- Original Message -
From:
Mary
Murphy
To: list
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:23
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] urgent,
addresses
Jo Fisher in Queensland is urgently seeking the conta
- Original Message -
From: Ben and Cheryl
To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@connect.com.au
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:01 PM
Subject: Fw: Community Midwife - 12-month contract
position
Cheryl GlenieM.Ed., B.Ed., Dip.T.
- Original Message -
From: Moody,
Lise (DHS)
To:
"For obvious reasons one cannot
> tell a group of pregnant women that they must give birth vaginally, while
> other women - at random - are told they must have a caesarean."
SEND IT ON TO CROWTHER AND THE ACTOBAC CREW
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From: "Larry & Megan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
I am sorry for not sending this earlier, it just
slipped my mind that there are some 'lurkers' from SA - YOU know who you
are!! - and thought it was only right for me to blatantly advertise our National
Day of Action MC event on ozmid!
cheers
Jo
South Australia
Maternity Coalition and CARE
They have started using misoprostol here in Australia;
W&CH SA were doing studies in it using women but assured me they would not
be using VBAC women as VBAC is a contra-indication for using the drug.
These were the same people who were/are doing the ACTOBAC trial.
The thing that worries
Bit of an ER fan I must admit! I remember the
cs disaster episode which really up set me. I also remember when Dr Corday
(English doctor) was pregnant and doing yoga'ish type exercises at home.
There was no visuals of her giving birth but her arguing to be able to walk
instead of being pu
GOOD luck to Gemma! I wish her all the light and love in the world if she
can achieve some changes thru such a wonderful medium!!! I just wished I
knew someone she could use, but I am sure there will be many candidates!!!
Jo
- Original Message -
From: "Jodie Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To
Hey! I was touched by the clip as well but the gnawing thought of "why is
she reclining on a bed??!!" kept creeping in
It reminded me of the video of the 'natural birth' I was shown during an
ante natal class with a woman sitting up in bed pushing bubby out and the
midwife actually said to us
otto? Educate,
> motivate and agitate? What ever it is you're doing, keep doin' it!!
>
> In consumer sisterhood,
> Jodie
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:08 pm, Jo & Dean Bainbridge wrote:
> > I would just like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for
I would just like to take this opportunity to thank
everyone for their replies and thoughts on the topics that I have suggested and
those that have spawned off of topics.
The thing that I love most
about oz mid is the discussions
offer food for
thought.
As a consumer I am in a positio
This was from Midwifery Today and thought it might
be of interest. For me OP was always a concern as my first bub was OP and
a cs, the next OP and a nasty instrumental VBAC and the third was OA and a
totally BEAUTIFUL birth with very little fear/pain and time in labour. It
was fear of OP
From Midwifery Today:
labor longer than 12 hours
OP
49.7%
Persistent fetal occiput posterior position: obstetric outcomes.
Obstet Gynecol 2003; 101:917
Interestingly enough, in reading VBAC
management terms, one of the guidelines is that a partogram should be
,
Jo & Dean Bainbridge wrote:
I read this today and wanted to chat
about this without fear of being lynched! lol And
given a birth I attended last week with the worst hospital midwife I have
ever met who was SO much less good than the obstetrician I am totally off
the idea
From:
Jo
& Dean Bainbridge
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 3:46
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] criticing
midwives
It was not my intention to criticise any
midwife who works in high risk or even general labour ward Sadie. I am s
It was not my intention to criticise any midwife
who works in high risk or even general labour ward Sadie. I am sorry that was
interpreted that way. The difference is between a midwife that truly CARES for
women and those who do not/ can not, not the location they
work.
I would say that th
I read this today and wanted to chat about this
without fear of being lynched! lol
And given a birth I attended last week with the worst hospital midwife I
have ever met who was SO much less good than the obstetrician I am totally off
the idea of a midwife is a midwife
I am totally of
I got it off oz mid Jan
cheers Jo Bainbridge
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 7:15
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] testing
so did oz mid get it?jan
- Original Message -
From:
Hi everyone,
hope you are all well. In regards to the
$1100 being charged for 5 minutes by a doc...
I know that there has been research done into
intervention rate differences in the public v's private sectors but has anything
else been addressed?
What I mean by that is: we know that th
those with obstetric
problems.Good luck with your submission. The more consumers push to
have their needs met through a holistic maternity care program the more
midwives will begin to listen and
respond.RegardsJanOn Friday, March 26, 2004,
at 01:50 PM, Jo & Dean Bainbridge wrote:
could this be circulated to all those
interested.
cheers
Jo
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From: Carolyn
Donaghey
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:30 PM
Subject: [ausbirthingcommunity] GP consumer consultation
sessions
I will be attending a consume
Hi Katherine,
welcome to the world of birth! CARES SA is
also supportive and proactive in promoting the benefits of mid students to
pregnant women. We cater to women who either have to have a cs, want one or
those who wish to have a vbac. Please contact me if you would like to know
more or
can anyone give me a contact email for Vanessa
Owens please? I need to contact her ASAP.
cheers Jo Bainbridge
Not sure what to make of this...
Makes you wonder what is missing from this
report... if the mother thought she was going to be given a classical incision
then perhaps it shows that she was not given any form of information no
reasons as to why the babies needed to be born by cs. Why wou
Everyone should
note: That this is an inquiry for SOUTH AUSTRALIA ONLY. The contact for the
committee is: Robyn Schutte Secretary, Social Development
Committee ph: 8237
9416 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Written submissions are due 7 May. Spoken
submissions may also be made by arrangement
Dear Helen,
I would love to talk to you more about a 6 yo still
sleeping with us (as well as our 4 yo and 2 yo 4 cats - and thank goodness
the dog cant get up as well!!) feel free to email me off list at the below
email.
cheers
Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL P
FRANCES BEDFORD MP
JPMember for Florey436 Montague
RoadMODBURY NORTH SA 5092Tel: 08 8263
2666
Fax: 08 8263
2166
“
Inquiry
into Post Natal Depression\TOC\2\BOWLING
FOR COLUMBINE”
Ms BEDFORD
(Florey):
I move:
That this house calls on
the Social
Development Committee
Title: Message
Prof Marc Keirse (editor of Effective Care) has
done quite allot of very critical critiquing of the TBT. He has
written a number of things about the failures of the TBT. I don't know
when they have been published but know that they have been published in the
Birth Perinatal
well, after all these years of putting the cat
amongst the pigeons and jumping up on my soap box I am calling it a day! I
bet most of you who know me never thought the day would come (and know that many
others have been praying for it to come LOL).
I am still committed to CARES SA but look
I have someone who is after some cs and vbac stats
for the Nation...I have really only got access to SA's and so would be really
appreciative if someone could lend a hand.
the required info is listed belowthe bits in
blue are the bits she needs help on.
Australia’s Caesarean rate is now
Birthrites is now www.birthrites.org not the edsite
anymore
cheers
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- Original Message -
From:
Julie
Clarke
To: Ozmidwifery Mailing List
Se
Noticed that Birthrites WA has been listed on the
information list floating around...
just thought you should know their correct address
is www.birthrites.org not the
edsite address anymore.
cheers
Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388
6918b
Hi all,
I was just wondering if anyone would like to
explore an option this Christmas...
Dean and I are going to Bendigo for Christmas and I
was just wondering if anyone would like to 'house swap' over the Christmas
period? We have a four bedroom house in the Adelaide hills which is a 20
mi
Anne,
I have looked at this topic in the past and am
trying to find the studies I used. There was one thread that was common
that an AROM in a OP labour caused fetal distress as the cushioning effect of
membranes which allowed baby to rotate was removed and put pressure on bubs head
and ma
From:
Jo
& Dean Bainbridge
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:37
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] National
Caesarean Awareness Day 2003
WONDERFUL Denise!!!
So glad that you are willing to do this.
It is all tho
need! Suggest the Friday!
Let me know if you are
interested!
it will be held in Waterloo
Sydney!
Denise LoveBirth Central -
02 9399 5854LifeOptions - The Centre for LifeLong LearningDoula
Expresswww.e-lifeoptions.com
- Original Message -
From:
Jo
&a
Thank you Debbie for this contact details. I
will be emailing her today sometime.
As for the bit about the discussion of a RCT of
vbac and cs at the Cochrane Collaboration: I would put my money on it
being the ACTOBAC trial as Prof Marc Keirse (co-author of Effective
Care) was there at the
Is there anyone who can help me contact someone
from the NCT in the UK who might know how the interparlimentary committee into
maternity services was set up. I have looked on their web site and there
is only contact details for snail mail and telephone. Dean is happy for me to
dedicate more
okay, as today I am incapacitated due to a badly
pulled back muscle, when I get the kids ingrossed in playing Thomas I am going
to sort through and find the articles of interest on outcomes of uterine rupture
and links to uterine trauma (other than previous cs). I will post what I
find for
Women should be made aware of the risks of 'nicking' the uterus during a
curette and the impact that can have on future births. One of the other
main causes of uterine rupture during labour is a uterus that has been
damaged in the past; OTHER than a cs. Out of interestdoes the system
treat a
Is there anyone interested in doing anything for
the National Caesarean Awareness Day this year? As always, it can be as
low key as getting together with mothers you have birthed with or holding a
special talk at your place of employment about vbac or cs. Or you can
organise a full on conf
"women will have to pay and are already paying
between $100 to $500 per pregnancy and will get higher!!"
I know many women who are finding they are having
to pay a higher gap with private insurance each baby they have. If there
is MORE increases to costs, coupled with the continued cost of
Actually! Come to think of it, to avoid twilight sleep was one of the
reasons why my g.mother birthed all of her children at home. Her other
reasons included not wanting anyone from the hospital to steal her babies, and
the other was as she said "it was during the war love, in London, and ev
USA feminists at the time actually campaigned for its
use
I find the feminist stance on child birth to be really interesting - as I
can not understand why they advocate the rights of women to subject themselves
to major surgery to avoid the horrors of labour?? I say 'horrors' as this
wa
I know it is not a laughing matter but Nikki you
had me in stitches Glad I am not the only one!
cheers
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- Original Message -
From:
Nikki
Macfarl
I know that a gentleman called Leigh Read (the son
of Dick Read who wrote "Natural Childbirth" on the fear = pain theory) is going
to or already started a birth workshop based on his fathers theory. He has
a very idealistic view that childbirth should not be painful. He is doing
his PHD on
thought you might be interested in
this...
A Native American Community With a 7% Cesarean Delivery Rate:
Does Case Mix, Ethnicity, or Labor Management Explain the Low
Rate? Cesarean delivery
rates vary widely across populations. Studying communities with low rates may
identify practices tha
A friend of mine suffered a severe case of CP when
she found out she was 6 weeks pregnant. Great timing! Her baby was
not effected and she did not do anything but ride the pox out. The poor
thing suffered really badly having pox sores all through her hair, over her face
arms legs torso an
ent to chat to me
> as they need, but they also need to meet the other midwives of the team
too.
> I hope this helps Jo. If you would like to know more just let me know.
> kathy
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jo & Dean Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMA
d a 2nd degree tear this
time.
> Perineal massage, a mirror and hot packs on the perinuem when pushing can
be
> helpful. What models of midwifery care are available to this woman? Know
> your Midwife or Birth Centre that support VBAC women. If not you could
> suggest an independent mid
I know there has been discussion in the past about
this but I am in a hurry to get some information for a woman whom had a positive
vaginal birth that turned ugly when she "tore badly inside and out" (in quotes
because that is what she said and I have no further knowledge of what sort of
tea
I would put a $500 bet that his name is David...
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
www.cares-sa.org.au
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phone: 08 8388 6918
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- Original Message -
From: "Denise Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, April 05,
could you email me off list Lynn?
cheers
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
www.cares-sa.org.au
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 08 8388 6918
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- Original Message -
From: "Lynne Staff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Lynne Staff (Mayne)" <[EMAIL
Marilyn says:
want breastfeeding to succeed so that their bodies haven't totally failed
them
how many times have I heard this said too!!!
The controversy lies (in many places but in this one quite prevalently) the
mind set for a great number of women is that they don't need to listen/learn
about C
aloe vera?
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
www.cares-sa.org.au
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 08 8388 6918
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- Original Message -
From: "Cheryl LHK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:46 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] nap
Some very interesting threads have come from my posting and I would like to
make some comments about them:
So many times when I speak to women through CARES they say they didn't read
the cs bit or didn't listen during the classes cause "it is not going to
happen to me". This causes a great persona
I read this in the latest Midwifery Toady
email newsletter. Thought some of the B Midders might want to
respond.
I would like to hear from someone in Australia who knows about the bachelor
of midwifery course or is doing it. I would like to know more about it and what
is involved.
— Lorel
urban myth that has been around about 5
years
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- Original Message -
From:
J
Stewart
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
; ozmid ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
; Rebe
I come across a number of women whom have had more than one cs and when I
talk to them about the risks of repeat cs, the ones who don't go off mad at
me for bringing it up, say that their concerns are for the babies safety
only. I find this incredible that they firmly believe that a cs is safer
fo
"evidence of the effects of 'supportive listening' such as debriefing
(women of their labour and birth experience) in preventing PND indicates
that it is likely to be of no benefit."
Sadly most women seem to have absorbed the ethos to tough it out, not make
a fuss, do whatever has to be do
In my search for emotional effects of cs, I have
found an interesting journal called the "Journal of Psychosomatic Obstetrics and
gynaecology".
Topics and study titles include:
Contents of childbirth-related fear among couples wishing the
partner's presence at delivery
Oxytocin, prolactin
Does anyone have any ideas on studies that have
looked at methods to decrease chances of adverse psychological reactions to cs
in the immediate post natal period?
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is there a difference between post natal and post
partum? If there is a difference, would it be the immediate time after
birth being post partum and post natal being the extended period after
birth?? Or is simply a different term for the same thing??
thank you in advance from a sleep dep
How do midwives learn how to preform pelvic exams?
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- Original Message -
From:
Carole
Claxton
To: CMOB
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 10:48
PM
Mary said:As
for "allowing" What does that mean? The woman will push when she has
to and no amount of "not allowing" will stop her.
The major concern is for those mothers who are told
to push when they don't need to. There really is no way a woman can be
told not to push; but the dama
Jen,
I am not sure how helpful this is, but I personally
think that asking this question is valid and would cause a few to stop and
think. It would certainly go some way to bringing it home that allowing a
mother to go by what her body is telling her rather than when the clock or the
care
here are some
interesting articles from the latest Medscape list...
my favorite is the second
one...wonder what defines a vaginal delivery?? Forceps, epis, lack of
pelvic floor exercising before and after?
hope they are interesting
reading and perhaps generate some conversation.
cheers
check out Sheila Kitzingers site as she is very
involved with birthing women within the prison system
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- Original Message -
From:
Mary
Murphy
To:
Alphia,
would you like some cs and vbac mums? If so I can link you up with some
with a range of experiences. How old are bubs meant to be?
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
www.cares-sa.org.au
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 08 8388 6918
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- Original Message
Can anyone contact me if you are aware of any vbac
friendly models of care that are in place anywhere in Australia currently?
I am after any KYM vbac; case loading vbac; high education levels for staff and
or women 9 clinics and education classes specific to vbac) and so on. I
really need
Tania could you give me a call as we have had two
vbacs who have been through and ecv and gone on to have a vbac. they might
be able to at least offer some support for this woman. We have some names
of obs who have supported women with prev. lscs here in
Adelaide
Jo Bainbridgefounding me
that is naughty!
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- Original Message -
From:
Julie
Clarke
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 8:45
AM
Subject: [ozm
Title: URGENT Advice Required
Can anyone tell me if a rash like Justine described
is common with birthing women? I had a HORRIBLE rash just like Justine
described and at first they put it down to me being allergic to the pain killers
they gave me after the cs and then I was told it is a comm
does anyone have the pregnancy outcomes for SA for
2001? If so can you contact me asap? If you have the 2000 results I
would still be interested.
cheers
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can anyone tell me the correct title or even the
web address of (what I was lead to believe) the Women's Hospital Group in
Australia? I have tried a google search on WHG Aust etc searched the
W&CH web site and can find no listing. I must have the wrong title but
don't know what it could be
I am sending mine straight to Downers office in Bridgewater!!! Might see if
I can get photocopying done at the same time just to be a bitch
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
www.cares-sa.org.au
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- Original Message
I am after Tina Pettigrew,
could you please email me off list?
cheers
Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAwww.cares-sa.org.au[EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388
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What was it like to be a midwife in the 18th century? Read Mother and
Child Were Saved, The Memoirs (1693-1740), of Frisian Midwife Catharina
Schrader, and find out. Hurry! Only a limited number of copies are
available.
http://www.midwiferytoday.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_C
Are you listening John???
No because the sound of financial benefits (like
the US saying "of course we will buy your wheat! BULLS&T) will always ring
louder!!!
I have heard that the Lord Mayor of Brisbane is
pleading with his constitutes to return the "How to Spot a Terrorist" $15, 000,
00
Title: Re: [C-Aware] Randomised Controlled Trial on vbac v's cs (long)
Thank you Gail for your words of
support.
I can not stress hard enough
though how I don't want this to go to the media YET!
I think the media is a
tool that we can use but as a last resort: for e.g. if the trial goes
check out the CARES SA suggested reading list: www.cares-sa.org.au
Carolyn has made some comments about the books that we recommend highly.
cheers
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
www.cares-sa.org.au
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 08 8388 6918
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- Original Mes
Yes Julie this has been sent to Jackie and she and
I are working with a number of others to get things happening (or not happening
as the case may be). I know the press is a mighty tool but don't feel it
is appropriate YET. I am just very cautious about how the press can
manipulate. All w
Hey Marijke,
please drop by and get the info I have on ACTOBAC
copied. 26 Elizabeth st Nairne (off Woodside Rd) There is a CARES meeting
next week Wed; at my house you are welcome to attend. I am actually coming
into the MtB hospital this week to put up a poster; will you be there
tomorrow
me have the rest of this info. It's beginning to sink in that we're
not living in an age of enlightenment at all.
Screaming,
Aviva
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From: Jo &
Dean Bainbridge
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 9:18 PM
Subject
Go on Carolyn, tell 'em about the band aids you
still have! ha ha
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- Original Message -
From:
Carolyn Donaghey
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon
Hi everyone,
I am back with a newly polished soap box and a
major thing to be yelling about!
I am going to jump straight into it with the stress
that I am not going to stay on the list for long (a few weeks perhaps) so you
may have to contact me off list for further details.
Okay, everyone
Many of you will give a huge sigh of relief to know
that I am officially getting off the soap box for a while to enjoy the chaos
which is the rest of my life I am sure that the mountain of ironing that
seems to get bigger each week is now a large enough formation to constitute it
self as
Pinky,
I know it is saying the obvious to US but a
suggestion I have to offer which is something that I have noticed in an
alarmingly fashion is the belief that to avoid the 'horrors' of child birth
women can opt for major abdominal surgery (cs). What needs to be yelled
from the roof tops i
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 08 8388 6918
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- Original Message -
From: "Jackie Mawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jo & Dean Bainbridge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "rem & m
Judy said:
. I am not sure where the administrators learn their job but they do not
seem to see that as a useful tool to staff the institutions.
It is because the admins are probably
men!
Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail:
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I know this has nothing to do with midwifery and I now that I was one of the
ones who was getting frustrated with the course changes of conversation, but
here in SA we miss out on heaps of things that the eastern states always
getlike the STING concert last year, eurythmics the year before that
Likened it to having to concentrate when driving the car and looking for a
carpark, can't talk much then either
Oh Megan! Does that mean you are one of 'those' car park seekers who take
the challenge to find the perfect park very seriously!!!
Jo Bainbridge
founding member CARES SA
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Just give the W&CH a call and ask for the clinical trials department and ask
who ever answers the phone. They should be able to tell you more.
Jo Bainbridge
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email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone: 08 8388 6918
birth with trust, faith & love...
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are women not being told about the pelvic floor
exercises these days? I have had many women say that they want a cs to
avoid stress incont. It has been shown that it is pregnancy not mode of
birth that impacts the peri muscles (unless being butchered with a pre-emptive
episiotomy).
At w
Title: FW: Woman sues over big baby (news.com.au report)
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