Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-25 Thread Larry Colen
> On Nov 24, 2021, at 12:15 PM, John Francis wrote: > >> >> A few months ago I bought a used Panasonic GX8 as a second body alongside my >> Olympus E-M1 Mk II. It was like new with only about seven hundred shutter >> clicks, and was about half the price I???d seen advertised elsewhere. >>

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-25 Thread John Sessoms
So, "Never can have too many ..." only applies to lenses? On 11/24/2021 3:38 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: If anyone is interested, I have a Panasonic GX9 that I hardly use. It’s a nice camera, but I have too many.  Lmk. G -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-25 Thread John Sessoms
The Olympus is micro 4/3 format. I believe Pentax is still has the lightest, most petite APS-C cameras and the K-1 may be the lightest "35mm" Full-frame. Plus the OM-D is mirrorless. No mirror box. Not even a tiny micro 4/3 mirror box. Going the other way, I actually find the Pentax bodies

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-24 Thread Toine
I'm interested. It would need shipping to the netherlands. to...@repiuk.nl On Wed, 24 Nov 2021, 21:38 Godfrey DiGiorgi, wrote: > If anyone is interested, I have a Panasonic GX9 that I hardly use. It’s a > nice camera, but I have too many.  > > Lmk. > > G > -- > %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-24 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:27:33AM +, Bob Pdml wrote: > > On 24 Nov 2021, at 07:32, mike wilson wrote: > > > > ??? > >> On 24 November 2021 at 04:47 John Francis wrote: > >> > >> > >> The Olympus rig is only a little lighter than the Pentax; > >> while the lens is significantly lighter

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-24 Thread Toine
The pana leica 100-400 is light as a feather (almost), sharp and a very nice macro lens for critters. M43 has autocorrect enabled for RAW which hides CA and purple fringing (if you pixelpeep the corrections are slightly visisble). The most amazing part is the fast if not instant focus, bird

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-24 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 07:32:50AM +, mike wilson wrote: > > > On 24 November 2021 at 04:47 John Francis wrote: > > > > > > The Olympus rig is only a little lighter than the Pentax; > > while the lens is significantly lighter (even though it's > > f2.8, not f4), the OM-D body is actually

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-24 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 12:02:54AM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: > With the 50-135/2.8 on the Pentax it might be lighter. That???s been my walk > around for a while now. Although With a K3. > > Paul I'm sure it would be lighter. But that's hardly the point. The lens I seem to use most often is

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-24 Thread Bob Pdml
On 24 Nov 2021, at 10:12, mike wilson wrote:  On 24 November 2021 at 09:27 Bob Pdml wrote: Hello again, by the way. I seem to have gone awol from the PDML for a couple of months, but messages started coming through again yesterday. Wotcher, cock. -- Pentasonic. Two pancakes:

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-24 Thread Bob Pdml
> On 24 Nov 2021, at 07:32, mike wilson wrote: > >  >> On 24 November 2021 at 04:47 John Francis wrote: >> >> >> The Olympus rig is only a little lighter than the Pentax; >> while the lens is significantly lighter (even though it's >> f2.8, not f4), the OM-D body is actually quite a bit

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
With the 50-135/2.8 on the Pentax it might be lighter. That’s been my walk around for a while now. Although With a K3. Paul > On Nov 23, 2021, at 11:47 PM, John Francis wrote: > >  > It's here! > > See http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/NewestToy.jpg > > That's a 40-150 on the OM-D, and the

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-23 Thread John Francis
It's here! See http://panix.com/~johnf/temp/NewestToy.jpg That's a 40-150 on the OM-D, and the 60-250 on the K5, which is about as close a comparison setup as I can get. The Olympus rig is only a little lighter than the Pentax; while the lens is significantly lighter (even though it's f2.8,

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-21 Thread wendy beard
I traded the last of my Pentax digital bodies and some lenses two years ago for the OM-D EM II. I have been hanging on to my 3 original limited lenses (31/43/77) hoping that there would be a Pentax body down the line that I would like to use with them. I have pretty much given up and might finally

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-20 Thread Toine
The 6x21 monocular has a special clamp and ocular rubber to fit on a smartphone. Very well made but it doesnt work on my Samsung. As a monocular its spectacular. As you might have guessed I have the 6x21. The microscope closeup lens is also great. On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, 18:31 Eric Weir, wrote: >

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-20 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 02:56:57AM -0500, John Francis wrote: > > That doesn't mean you'll be able to kick me off the PDML, though! Hmm. I post that, and for over 24 hours I don't see any new messages ... -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread John Francis
Thanks to all who contributed their thoughts. It looks as though the answer is going to be Olympus. A significant factor in that decision is that, as several people (including my wife) pointed out to me, it doesn't matter how good your camera is if it's sitting at home because it's too heavy

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Alan C
Or simply the "Photographer's Discuss Mail List" plus a "PENTAX AT HEART" sticker for use on any camera or mobile! On 18-Nov-21 11:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote: Considering how many members of this list have moved away from Pentax, maybe we should change it to the Phalacrocoracidae Discuss

Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Bipin Gupta
A friend on the i-Pentax Forum bought a Sony Full Frame Mirrorless because his Pentax K-5 IIs + Lenses were causing him shoulder and neck pain and he wanted a lighter gear. Within a year he sold it and went back to the Pentax. Reason:- a) He was not happy with the quality of the photos in RAW or

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
You might very well think that, but I couldn't possibly cormorant. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery * Virus-free. www.avast.com

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Larry Colen
Considering how many members of this list have moved away from Pentax, maybe we should change it to the Phalacrocoracidae Discuss Mailing List. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- %(real_name)s Pentax-Discuss Mail List To unsubscribe send an email to pdml-le...@pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread John Sessoms
On 11/18/2021 11:26 AM, Toine wrote: First images from my panasonic are excellent: https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-360-1000139 f/8 1/640 sec 400mm ISO 500 It's amazing, a fancy mirrorless body and a Leica superzoom for the price of a K3III. Sorry... No reason to apologize. You do

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Brian W
I've more or less moved to OLympus. I still have my K-5, K-01 & istDS and a variety of lenses but I rarely use them now. I have an E-M10 & E-M5 II and think they are the bees knees. I really like the electronic viewfinders and don't find them at all inferior to the optical finders of the

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Eric Weir
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:12 PM, Bill wrote: > > Check out this guy's stuff. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/klatuu13/albums/ Ooh, wow! Love it. All of it. Eric Weir Decatur, GA USA eew...@comcast.net "It has all been combustion.” - W.G. Sebald

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Eric Weir
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 6:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > > Switch to an iPhone 13 Pro Max. It will provide excellent 11 megapixel photos > with wide, normal and short tele lenses. Lots of nice features like portrait > and panorama modes. Excellent video too. Good in camera editing as well. Oh,

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Stanley Halpin
Hi. My name is Stan, and I have way too much Pentax gear. Thank you for allowing me to join you at this evening’s meeting of those suffering from Gear Acquisition Syndrome. But seriously… Within a few months I hope to get back to my occasional travels to foreign/scenic/exotic places. And I

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Toine
First images from my panasonic are excellent: https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-360-1000139 f/8 1/640 sec 400mm ISO 500 It's amazing, a fancy mirrorless body and a Leica superzoom for the price of a K3III. Sorry... On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 at 16:18, Rick Womer wrote: > > John, I was having

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-18 Thread Rick Womer
John, I was having similar weight problems with my K-5 and accessories (17-70 usually on the camera, 10-17 and 50-200 in the bag; sometimes the 80-320). I tracked down a LowePro Off Road bag, which has a great built-in hip belt. That takes all the strain off my neck and shoulders, but keeps

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread Toine
I sold my 400+ sigma and pentax and switched to panasonic dc-g9 and pana leica 100 400. Equal to 200 800 on 35mm. Half the weight, dual lens and body SR. Bird, animal detection, amazinf AF etc etc. And the best part if I look through the viewfinder I remember my MX. On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, 05:28

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 05:12:29PM -0600, Bill wrote: > Check out this guy's stuff. > > https://www.flickr.com/photos/klatuu13/albums/ > > [. . .] > > He had a lot of big prints in his house from the Olympus. The quality is > there with the equipment. > > Bill It certainly is! I looked more

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 06:01:46PM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Switch to an iPhone 13 Pro Max. It will provide excellent 11 megapixel photos > with wide, normal and short tele lenses. Lots of nice features like portrait > and panorama modes. Excellent video too. Good in camera editing as

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I agree with Paul about the capabilities of the iPhone. I have an iPhone 12 Pro Max, and it is an excellent camera, with normal, wide and tele lenses. My son tells me the 13 is even better, by quite a bit. Dan Matyola *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread Larry Colen
> On Nov 17, 2021, at 1:37 PM, John Francis wrote: > > > The recent posts about the K3-III got me to wondering again about whether > I'll stick with Pentax and get a K3-III, or switch brands. > > I know a few of the posters here have already moved over - I'd appreciate it > if you could

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread Bill
Check out this guy's stuff. https://www.flickr.com/photos/klatuu13/albums/ Brian was a long time friend who also happened to be a master at all things photography. He contracted polio when he was 12 or so, at which point he lost most of the use of his legs. The first time I met him, he was

Re: Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
Switch to an iPhone 13 Pro Max. It will provide excellent 11 megapixel photos with wide, normal and short tele lenses. Lots of nice features like portrait and panorama modes. Excellent video too. Good in camera editing as well. Oh, and it has phone and web browser functions, When you need big

Pentax or Olympus?

2021-11-17 Thread John Francis
The recent posts about the K3-III got me to wondering again about whether I'll stick with Pentax and get a K3-III, or switch brands. I know a few of the posters here have already moved over - I'd appreciate it if you could share with me (either here on PDML or by direct email) your

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-04-03 Thread P.J. Alling
I hope the PEN works out for you, they're really sexy cameras, but it looks like I was right, no longer quite so compact a package with the adapter. Still it's probably smaller than the K-5II w/smc A 24mm f2.8. On 3/31/2016 5:43 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: First impressions of Olympus Pen F

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-04-03 Thread P.J. Alling
Well, thanks. It let's you read the magazine online up to page 15. Unfortunately the comparison starts on page 89... On 3/31/2016 7:34 PM, Paul wrote: FWIW Issue 118 of Professional Photo (a UK magazine, for those here in the states) has a comparison/review of the Fuji X-E2S and the Pen-F.

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-03-31 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It looks reasonably elegant nonetheless. The Pentax 24mm plus mount adapter is only a bit larger than my Summilux-DG 25/1.4 (although probably much heavier)... It would be interesting to see how the two lenses differ in their rendering. Enjoy it! G > On Mar 31, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Steve

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-03-31 Thread John
I get a page where I can subscribe to the magazine for only £59.99 There's a blurb for Issue 118 - "Wedding wisdom, rock ‘n’ roll royalty & Olympus v Fujifilm – just 3 reasons to read this issue" On 3/31/2016 7:41 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Couldn't get there from here. Paul via phone On Mar

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-03-31 Thread Paul Stenquist
Couldn't get there from here. Paul via phone > On Mar 31, 2016, at 7:34 PM, Paul wrote: > > FWIW Issue 118 of Professional Photo (a UK magazine, for those here in the > states) has a comparison/review of the Fuji X-E2S and the Pen-F. > >

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-03-31 Thread Paul
FWIW Issue 118 of Professional Photo (a UK magazine, for those here in the states) has a comparison/review of the Fuji X-E2S and the Pen-F. http://www.absolutephoto.com/index.php/magazines/photo-professional -p On 3/31/2016 4:43 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: First impressions of Olympus Pen F

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-03-31 Thread Bill
On 3/31/2016 3:43 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: First impressions of Olympus Pen F camera that arrived yesterday. One of the things I found when I started adapting pre A series lenses to the Fuji is that they work better on the X-T1 than they do on the Pentax. bill Beautiful. A bit lighter

Re: New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-03-31 Thread Darren Addy
I can see why your heart is going pitter-patter. On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > First impressions of Olympus Pen F camera that arrived yesterday. > > Beautiful. A bit lighter than the comparable Fuji offerings but the > Fujis feel like blocks of

New Perversions: Pentax Meets Olympus

2016-03-31 Thread Steve Cottrell
First impressions of Olympus Pen F camera that arrived yesterday. Beautiful. A bit lighter than the comparable Fuji offerings but the Fujis feel like blocks of carved steel and I would have no qualms with knocking a nail into a 4X2 with a Fuji. The Pen F feels ever so slightly less robust, but

[Old stuff] Pentax promoting Olympus lenses (sort of)

2011-01-31 Thread Thibouille
http://35mm-compact.com/manuels/pentax-lens-and-accessories/slides/pentax-lens-accessories-p61.html Funny :) -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille/Thibs -- Photo: K-7, Sigma 28/1.8 macro, FA50/1.4, DA40Ltd, K30/2.8, DA16-45, DA50-135, DA50-200, 360FGZ           KX, MX,

Re: Pentax DSLR - size matters (was: Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?)

2002-05-05 Thread Cotty
Basically there is a using size and a transporting size. The two are not the same. LOL! Bruce, ain't that the truth. Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads

Re: Pentax DSLR - size matters (was: Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?)

2002-05-05 Thread Pål Audun Jensen
Rob wrote: Neither do I fully accept the notion that the new digital interchangeable lens SLR concept previously under discussion will provide a truly compelling advantage due to it's slightly smaller relative size over 35mm compatible digital SLRs. Lets face it many people lug about a Nikon

Re: Pentax DSLR - size matters (was: Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?)

2002-05-05 Thread Pål Audun Jensen
Bruce wrote: Basically there is a using size and a transporting size. The two are not the same The problem isn't necessarily size (within reason) but weight. I have yet to meet anyone who doesn't wish that their super telephotos were smaller and lighter. Pål - This message is from the

Re: Pentax DSLR - size matters (was: Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?)

2002-05-05 Thread Frantisek Vlcek
PAJ True. Big size sells. However, price may be a decisive factor. Smaller CCD PAJ and smaller lenses translate into lower prices. If the consortium is PAJ successful in standardization it will also translate into lower prices. PAJ Small super telephoto lenses will definitely have an impact on

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-04 Thread Pål Audun Jensen
Mishka wrote: To the point: if there'll be small and light and fast and inexpensive wide angle glass for the new format, hell, I wouldn't mind spending a hundred bucks for a top-notch equivalent of 35mm 20/2 that's half the size and weight. That's my position as well. I never been convinced

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-04 Thread Pål Audun Jensen
Warren wrote: Further they find that they can design and sell an equivalent 17-35/2, 35-100/2, 80/200/2, 300/2, 400/2.8 600/4 lens for half what the competition is doing in a system that not only has the same resolution and capabilities and weighs a fraction of the traditional systems. This

Re: Pentax DSLR - size matters (was: Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?)

2002-05-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 May 2002 at 21:44, Cotty wrote: Anyway, Pentax first digital slr will almost certainly be a K-mount slr. I hope and agree. One thing that bothers me about introducing a new form factor for DSLRs, especially those with interchangeble lens systems, I fear that because the lenses

Re[3]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Alin Flaider
Mark wrote: ME The tyranny is not the mirror box ME per se, but rather the fact that a 35mm box is oversized when ME compared to the imaging array. I submit that a properly ME sized mirror box is not tyranny. You are right, of course, but why bring the optical assembly (lens included) down

RE: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Rob Brigham
erm 4/3 inch? Thats like 30mm by 20mm isnt it? Thats as big, if not bigger than most DSLR sensors right now. -Original Message- From: Pål Audun Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 May 2002 13:03 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Will Pentax join Olympus? From Photo

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Antti-Pekka Virjonen
At 21:42 2.5.2002 -0700, Alan Chan wrote: But the same question remains, Are most 135 SLR users ready to dump all their expensive lenses just yet? It reminds me what happened to Minolta and Nikon APS SLRs. Right! If Pentax will come out with a new lens mount with lenses compatible only with

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Rob Brigham Subject: RE: Will Pentax join Olympus? Oh, those well known lens manufacturers! Fuji is a very well regarded lens manufacturer. William Robb -Original Message- From: Pål Audun Jensen Subject: RE: Will Pentax join Olympus

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Mishka
small, light and fast wide angle glass. I see no reason to worry. From: Antti-Pekka Virjonen Subject: Re: Will Pentax join Olympus? Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 02:43:48 -0700 - At 21:42 2.5.2002 -0700, Alan Chan wrote

Re[3]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Alin Flaider wrote: I don't see why this specie has to be smaller then current 24x36 systems, unless smaller area chip can support 16 MPixels. Well, I remind you what someone pointed out this week: With a typical small CCD, f/2.8 yields the same depth of field as a 35mm camera's f/11. That's

Re[4]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Alin Flaider
Well, not necessarily. DOF also depends on COC (circle of confusion), which is inverse proportional to resolution. Hence, together with future higher resolution, we will see today's amazing DOF dropping towards... 35mm standards. It amazes me how many see film and digital as comparable

Re: Re[3]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 May 2002 at 9:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I remind you what someone pointed out this week: With a typical small CCD, f/2.8 yields the same depth of field as a 35mm camera's f/11. That's why the pictures taken by my friends' digicams often put mine to shame. And your paper thin

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 May 2002 at 6:01, Mishka wrote: From what I understand, the registration length (or what you may call it) of the new lens would be a lot less than for normal SLR. Wouldn't a mechanical adapter (sim. to 645 to K and 67 to 645) be the answer? You'll get to get the best of both worlds:

RE: Re[4]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Paris, Leonard
PROTECTED] Subject: Re[4]: Will Pentax join Olympus? Well, not necessarily. DOF also depends on COC (circle of confusion), which is inverse proportional to resolution. Hence, together with future higher resolution, we will see today's amazing DOF dropping towards... 35mm standards

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Mishka
Rob, By the same token, because one has spent tons of cash for 55mm 67 lens, there's no reason to make 35mm cameras where 50/2 often comes for free ;) Besides, the 35mm equivalent of 67 55mm lens is what, roughly 24mm? There are tons of those available for fraction of what one has to spend for a

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread W.Xato
Think of Olympus position this way. Canon and Nikon are stuck with their 24x36 platforms because of their huge user base while Olympus has been phasing out for years. Olympus does a little research and finds that it is difficult to produce 24x36 CCD or CMOS sensors even given significant

Re[6]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Alin Flaider
Leonard wrote: PL If you have enough DOF, bokeh is not an issue. Grin Right. No DOF for me, please. PL When you say an order of magnitude, do you mean that you can enlarge 35mm PL ten times larger than a digital image? No. It was just a figure of style. At its best, 35mm film can be

RE: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-03 Thread Christopher Lillja
Kodak made some world class lenses over the years and I'm sure they have ample resourses to do so again. I have a 100mm luminized (single coated) Ektar on my 3x4 Speed Graphic and it's a truly fabulous lens. Oh, those well known lens manufacturers! As far as I can see, this is currently a

Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Pål Audun Jensen
From Photo Industry reporter: While Olympus expects to talk with other digital camera makers about standardization of lenses, it will reveal at photokina 2002 a sensationally new interchangeable lens digital AF SLR that uses a 4/3-inch CCD sensor, roughly half the size of that used by

RE: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Mishka
to get away with a much smaller lens and sensor. thumbs up for oly! From: Rob Brigham Subject: RE: Will Pentax join Olympus? Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 05:29:23 -0700 --- This is just B**t! To get the same resolution from

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Mark Cassino
Well, who knows what's really going on in the mind of Olympus, but this seems like a far fetched plan as outlined. First - why would any other manufacturer design lenses for such a system? Short of absolutely staggering sales, there just would not be any percentages in designing lenses in a

RE: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Brian Walsh
Perhaps Pentax historians will correct me, but something like this may have occurred during the great days of the SLR. The Olympus OM-1 (1972) introduced a small form factor and used a series of relatively small, lightweight lenses. Pentax, of course, followed a with small (K and M) cameras,

Re[2]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This move will require something of an about-face for Olympus's PR department. The company has been claiming that interchangeable-lens digicams that use existing 35mm lenses cannot guarantee the fit tolerances needed in such a tiny sensor. Olympus will have to now explain that by starting from

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Mark Erickson
Two aspects of the 35mm SLR architecture make it a bad platform for a digital camera: the mirror box size, and the image circle coverage. I have no doubts that if you free lens designers from these constraints they'll be able to design better lenses than those available for 35mm systems.

Re[2]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Alin Flaider
As long as the mirror box tyranny gives me an optical TTL viewfinder, then so be it. The hell will freeze before I buy a digital viewfinder camera. And how much is this lens - 5 MPixels? And how many megapixels is capable of the 20 years old, mirror box constrained, 5x zoom A

Re[2]: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Mark Erickson
Alin, I didn't say, tyranny of the mirror box, I said, tyranny of the 35mm mirror box. The tyranny is not the mirror box per se, but rather the fact that a 35mm box is oversized when compared to the imaging array. I submit that a properly sized mirror box is not tyranny. Imagine if you

Will Pentax Join Olympus? Re: mirror box tyranny

2002-05-02 Thread Christopher Lillja
Chris L. School Publications Guy Re: Will Pentax join Olympus? As long as the mirror box tyranny gives me an optical TTL viewfinder, then so be it. The hell will freeze before I buy a digital viewfinder camera. Christopher Lillja Publications Coordinator The Pennington School

Re: Will Pentax Join Olympus? Re: mirror box tyranny

2002-05-02 Thread Len Paris
H. Pentax already has a smaller format mirror box SLR system in the parts bin - remember the 110? And there are several imagers out there aboyut the size of a 110 frame! Holy hotcakes, Batman, could the 110 SLR system be the basis for a Pentax digital SLR!?!?!? I sure hope not! I want to

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 May 2002 at 11:28, Mark Cassino wrote: Well, who knows what's really going on in the mind of Olympus, but this seems like a far fetched plan as outlined. It makes less sense to me from an economic perspective than an technical perspective and that's pretty poor too IMHO. Maybe this

RE: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 May 2002 at 7:35, Mishka wrote: actually, it makes sense to me: afaik, the *lens* resilutions are normally in range of hundreds of lppm. so for digital, where there's no limitation set by film of how much contrast one needs to actually record those lps, once you have a sensor with high

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 2 May 2002 at 12:26, Mark Erickson wrote: Two aspects of the 35mm SLR architecture make it a bad platform for a digital camera: the mirror box size, and the image circle coverage. I have no doubts that if you free lens designers from these constraints they'll be able to design better

Re: Will Pentax join Olympus?

2002-05-02 Thread Alan Chan
But the same question remains, Are most 135 SLR users ready to dump all their expensive lenses just yet? It reminds me what happened to Minolta and Nikon APS SLRs. regards, Alan Chan While Olympus expects to talk with other digital camera makers about standardization of lenses, it will